Bachelor Happy Hour - Brittany’s Side of the Story

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

This week on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Becca and guest co-host Thomas are joined by Brittany Galvin to get her side of the story about her breakup with Tyler. In their conversation, Brittany reveals how everything went down once she and Tyler took their relationship into the real world, why their breakup FaceTime wasn’t as harsh as some might think, and why she felt blindsided by her conversation with Tyler at the reunion. Plus, Brittany discusses her current dating life and whether she still has her eye on anyone from Bachelor Nation. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back Happy Hour listeners. I'm Becca Koufferin and we have another switcheroo for you this week because you're not getting Michelle Young today, everyone. You're getting... Thomas Jacobs. That's me. That's him. Once again, he's back with us.

We had a few little last minute changes and luckily he could step in. Thomas, I called you my pinch hitter. because you always come in at the last moments to save the day, to seal the deal. So thanks for being on happy hour, honey. Absolutely. I can't guarantee I'm always going to hit, but I will step in that box and I will swing as hard as I can for you. I love it. We're excited to be back again. I feel like we haven't recorded in forever. It was very crazy week because we had Thanksgiving and we've been traveling. So apologies and advanced all of our listeners, because Thomas and I are both not feeling that great.

we spent the past week with my little niece and nephew who are petri dishes and they were sick from daycare so we of course got sick and now we're here so if I sound like a man I apologize but we're ready to go we're going to have a very fun guest today Thomas you actually met her do you want to introduce our guest who's going to be coming on of course we have none other than Brittany Galvin now we all know Brittany went through quite the rigor at the end of paradise and we have a lot to catch up on her life just because the season doesn't mean the drama behind the scenes and everything in people's lives as they say what is it the show must go on the show must go on yes and so we're going to get the scoop from her very soon on like what actually

went down with her and tyler at the end of paradise and then obviously after paradise before that thomas you want to chat and catch any of our listeners up on our lives on our house i know you love talking about the renovations well the exciting thing is i'm actually recording from inside the house right now for the first time in our history because this is a moment yeah no i'm just echoing your sentiment earlier that three-year-olds are the cutest little viral infected bundles of joy that any of us could ever have in this world so yeah it's just fun spending time in minnesota the baby fever is definitely kicking yeah sick all the time that's going to be something I'm getting used to.

Yeah. Yeah. It was fun being back in Minnesota with you. I obviously always love bringing you back there. You haven't yet been there for the summer, which I think you're really going to appreciate. But we had a great Thanksgiving. We ate way, way, way too much every day. I had to just constantly wear sweatpants each and every day that we were there.

But yeah, it was fun seeing you with my niece and nephew with both a little baby and then running around with the three. year old. I don't know who had more energy. You or my niece. You both are crazy. Until it was time to like change diapers or something, I definitely. Oh my God. She pooped in the living room. And at that point, she, she won the day. I was like, I can't compete with this. Should we share that story with everyone? I don't know. I don't know if we should share it. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, year old poop story. But Thomas knows how to change a diaper, but he says he doesn't want to like physically actively partake in this until we have our own kids. Like he wants it to be his own

DNA. So he has watched me change from my niece and nephew's diapers before. But we have yet, this is the first time that we've had to deal with a three year old going to the bathroom. And so she's she's potty trained. So she like has her little toilet that she'll like pick up and bring with her and they put it in room to room so she can go to the bathroom. And, you know, after a big Thanksgiving meal, all of the stuffing, the turkey, the mashed potatoes hit her hard. She might be the details that we can admit a little bit, my love. She runs into the, into the living room. And Thomas and I are babysitting. And I'm holding this little baby who I just fed. He's asleep. She looks at Thomas and she's like, I got to go to the bathroom. And Thomas is like, okay, cool,

go to the bathroom. You're potty train. So she goes to the bathroom and it's not number one. It turns into be number two. But she doesn't know how to like fully wipe herself. So she looked at Thomas like, come on Uncle Tommy. And his face when he looked at me was pure terror. I have never seen Thomas's face look the way it did. It was like he was traumatized. He did not know what to do. So he's like, quick, give me the baby. You can wipe her. And so I proceeded to take care of my little cute niece. I feel that's fair, though. There should be a line delineation. If you are not the direct blood relative, you should pass on the obligation to wipe the three-year-old's butt to the direct-blood relative. But the best part, but Tom is the best part. And he's all watching this, but he like doesn't want to be. But she doesn't just like, this is my PTMI. I don't just like wipe her. She proceeds to do a full on Somerselt. If anyone does yoga, you know like the plow pose where the like the legs go over the head on the ground. That's how she had me wipe and I'm like, well, we're really getting clean this time around. And with that, I really, I'm sorry for all of our happy hour listeners listening to this. With that happy hour listeners, I will be resigning effective immediately. I'm sorry that you guys had to just listen through that.

Becca. Oh, Lord, this is my sisters or my mom's going to call me and be like, you shouldn't have shared that story on the podcast. But hey, it's real. And now Thomas wants kids more than ever. So here we are. which brings us to happy endings or not so happy endings after paradise great segue um yeah let's get into bringing brittany on we have so many questions for her i don't know about our listeners

and thomas i i don't know about you i don't know how how active you are in the tic-tok but there's been some tic-tok she's done trying to rope tyler in i want to know like if he's join her if not like we have all the things so let's bring her on and get her take post paradise well brittany welcome to happy hour this is your first time here first time on a podcast ever so what's more nerve-racking like having your first date ever in bachelor in paradise or being on your first bachelor podcast i'm gonna go have i'm gonna have to go a date because the cameras but this, I'm like, I'm in my messy apartment, so we're chilling. Oh, my gosh.

No, this will be so easy, so fun. Well, I'm happy that you are on Happy Hour then to talk about all this. I know we have, like, obviously, a ton of questions for you. Let's start off. Well, first of all, now that Paradise, the reunion, filming, everything is over. Just overall, how have you been? I'm okay. I mean, definitely throughout the season, it was,

amazing and like all like the love from everyone was awesome but when a lot of people just only watch the reunion just to kind of see the recap um it was a little bit shocking with all like the backlash that came from it um just because you know watching it back what was a 20 minute conversation only 60 seconds gets to get shown so it's a little bit hard yeah but it's definitely nice, like not seeing myself on the screen every Monday and Tuesday and like just spending time with family and friends or not being able to chill a bit more. So other than spending that time with family and friends, what are you doing just to really ground yourself? Because you said okay and I think we all felt just like that pain behind it because there's a lot that goes into it.

So what is they know? Yeah, I mean, I deleted my Instagram app. I mean, I'm going to redownload it, but I just kind of needed to just not see all of that. And it's definitely died down. I think it's been like a week now so like i'll probably read download it after this podcast but i've just been doing yoga and just going on walks and yeah we're just chilling right now yeah it can be a lot it's it's and i'm sure you experience this coming off of the actual season right like off of filming and being quarantined on this beach with the same people day in and day out it's an adjustment to come back to real life but then it's also a weird adjustment that no one can really fully understand living your real life while it's all being aired on TV.

And as you said, so much is filmed, basically the entire time is filmed, but viewers are only seen a few seconds of a conversation or a quick clip here and there. And it's not the full picture. So I can understand, like, just this, like, adjustment process for you is got to be tough. Have you been able to lean on your friends and family this past week and just spend time, like, for Thanksgiving? Yeah, no. I've been, even, like, talking to, like, cast members that were on my season just because

they kind of understand and know that behind the scenes. So it's been really nice, like, having those resources because, you know, some people don't have that. But, you know, regardless, I mean, I just don't think a lot of people know that, like, a lot of this was being filmed months ago. And then I know the reunion was, like, a month ago still, though, but, like, I've had time to, like, process and have conversations with, you know, Tyler and who are. but yeah the big thing and I really commend you for this is having the self-respective step away from all that and deleting the app and just taking home head space as someone who's gone through a tough experience coming off the show as well I know firsthand what those hate

messages could be like and it's just overwhelming so to walk away from that and just focus on you I applaud for that and I also thank you I appreciate that it gets better I mean it's it's it's going to return to a normal and you're going to put all that behind you and you're going to be a better person for it. Yeah. And I mean, I can't even imagine like the magnitude it probably is for you guys or just people with a bigger fan base.

You get like regardless of how good of a person you are, you still get hate. You know, I saw something on like my TikTok about like Claire Crawley, how she like posted and she's still getting hate after like all these months of not being like The Bachelorette. anymore. So it's just pretty crazy that people have so much, like, hate in their hearts and just, like, so much evilness to reach out to a random stranger. Yeah, I can just say, honestly,

and this has taken me years now of being out of the show, really, like, stay out of the DMs. You know, it's, and you have to remember, these people truly don't know you. And they think they do for the two seconds. They don't know you. They, like, who are they to really judge? And it's always somebody projecting an insecurity or an issue or something going on in their lives on to you, which is not fair. Nobody should be that punching bag. But it's smart to have deactivated Instagram for a while. Just stay out of the DMs. Like, don't read the comments. It's just, it will get easier. I like block people too because I'm like, that's how I protect my piece. I like saw some girl. Her name's like Victoria Paris. But she blocks anyone that like sends her like

a hate comment or a hate message because you could comment down like the bachelor franchise stuff anything you want about me but like on my own personal profile like no I'm not going to see that so I just block everyone bye blocking feels so effing good sometimes it feels great like I've done I would take like a day and just do a deep clean sometimes on my social and just be like black block block I don't want to deal with your negativity do whatever you have to do to protect your mental health, your inner peace, all of that. Let's get into, though, your time on paradise. We're going to take you back a few months ago, put you back in that headspace.

You were there since the beginning. And you're actually somebody that when Michelle and I were recapping each week, like, we loved you. I loved. You just seemed to stand for what you believed and you know your worth. You would dodge the kisses if you knew it wasn't right, if the relationship wasn't going your way. All time moment, by the way. Incredible. Two moments. Missed those times.

Oh, yeah, two times. It was great. But you really seem to, I would say, find your footing in Paradise during that split week. Obviously, that was a wild ride and it threw everyone for a loop. But that's where you were actually introduced to Tyler, which was your main relationship on that beach. You guys seemed to hit it off together right away. What was your initial connection with him like? Okay. So I feel like a lot of people didn't get to see my story and a lot of my journey building up to that moment. But I kind of dealt with a lot of hardships of, you know, getting into relationships with some people, not relationships, but talking to some people at the beach. And it just not working out. So when I met Tyler, he was the one person that right when I met him, he was just very like into the conversation.

He wanted it very direct, and it just made me feel really good to be pursued for once. And it just, honestly, it was amazing. Like, we had so many things in common, just from our, like, backgrounds and, you know, our siblings and all that. So it was really cool to actually meet someone that I had so much, one, attraction to, but, too, we had so many common interests. Mm-hmm. Did you know, I think it was one of your first couple conversations. with Tyler and it might have actually been the first kiss you shared but do you remember like we were watching it back and Sheney was like the girls were kind of fine seeing you like have this

moment and this kiss and Shanae kind of had the meltdown in the background and went into her room and was upset did you know any of that was going on or were you just oblivious okay well also I'm like watching it back because I got to see Tyler's date with Sheney I didn't know how intense intentional he was with her too. So, like, seeing them, like, make out three times and, like, have all these combos, I didn't realize, like, how serious it might have seemed to Chenet. So I totally understand where she was coming from.

But I, yeah, I was just kind of surprised because I'm like, I had no idea that was going on the entire time. Did you think, do you think watching back those moments that Tyler had with other cast members somewhat have had an impact on your guys' relationship? outside in the real world? I mean, at that time when I saw it, we weren't dating anymore,

but I did text him and he didn't respond. I was like, damn, three times. But, yeah. Was that almost like a moment of clarity for you then as well? No, I think I was, because we broke up probably like a month before that, I want to say. So I already had my clarity, but it was just kind of like, oh, wow.

He was very intentional at Cheney. That kind of was a shock to me. So were you able to ever have a conversation with her after that before going back to the beach about like kind of where you stood and you're like, yeah, I have this connection. I didn't know it was as serious. Were you too able to sit down? Oh, you know, when Jesse would come in and like talk about where the relationships were, we did have conversations and I was like, you know, Tyler's my number one right now. like I liked him so much so I think she kind of got the hint but we never I just didn't know that they were serious like that even though he claimed that they weren't so I didn't really

have that conversation with her and I don't think he had the conversation with her okay so man so there's so much that happens and there's so much that goes on with everyone that it's hard to sit down and it's easy for me like as if you were to be like oh well like that conversation should have taken place but of course like there's so much behind the scenes that you don't know. So it's, and I feel like the viewers always get so critical about that on people. Like, oh, she should have pulled him or had this conversation with her, this and that. And it's like, there's sometimes just not time.

And sometimes you're just not aware. Unless somebody is very direct in your face about something, you just don't always know. Yeah. Overall, was there anything from the season that was really difficult for you to watch back? Just the reunion, honestly, just because, I mean, I got a bunch of backlash from it, and I genuinely didn't feel like I came across cold-hearted. It was just purely out of frustration because I did feel like we ended on mutual terms, but it just kind of came out of nowhere. And they didn't really get to show the part where we're just going back and forth between the conversation. it just kind of showed me being very blunt and I don't want to say like mean but just not

having a lot of respect for Tyler and he was just kind of hurting so watching that back like I definitely was like wow like I wish we had to have this conversation before it got to this point so that conversation with Tyler that was the first time you guys really erred anything out since breaking up yeah yeah so how did how did you feel going into that knowing that you were going to be facing that, excuse me, that conversation? Were you nervous? What was the headspace of Britney going into that? Um, I mean, I was definitely excited to see him.

I think I come on the stage and I'm smiling, but, you know, five seconds later, I'm like, dead straight face just because I didn't realize, like, how hurt he was. But, you know, I... was kind of confused by it because the way it kind of went down, he had said, like, you know, we're both attractive people, we'll both like be just okay. You weren't single that long ago. And like, that's where I was just like, okay, like, we're good. But yeah, I guess, I guess not. So, okay. So take us back to you two leaving paradise together, right? we saw you get in the van, you still were in a relationship.

What was the relationship like right after Paradise? Did you two talk a lot? I think you would either you were tired mentioned you had visited each other out in Jersey and I think in Chicago, correct? Yeah. And it was amazing. You know, there's just like those two days where you don't have your phone before you get transitioned into the real world.

And I was just sitting there and I was like, this doesn't even feel real. Like, I hope that he, like, still likes me even after all the stuff. So you two couldn't even be together during those two days? Yeah, I know. What? We got to do, like, um, uh, you could like do like an overnight stay, which we did. But I was just so like, oh my gosh, I can't believe we're actually doing this.

Like, it's actually happening. We're going to meet each other's, like, families and friends because we talked so much about it on the beach. So having that be a reality was just really cool to me. Um, and we did, like immediately after I went to Jersey for the fourth, July and we like spent the entire week together. And then right after he was like, I've never been to a Cubs game. So I took him to a Cubs game and we did all of that in Chicago before his season like really started airing. But yeah, I just felt like everything really did happen so

fast. So after we met each other's families and friends, I kind of like had some serious conversations with him. You know, like where do you see yourself in five years? Like, you know, like that really like are we going to make the jump and move into like the same city or are we going to continue doing long distance and after we had a few conversations um i kind of expressed him that i needed a break but that never really happened so i just so what's specific in those conversations was the turning point where you have this Rocky mountain high coming off of paradise you enter the real world and then things don't necessarily add up at what point were you aware of that this might not be your person um you know i was asking questions just about like his like values

and goals and dreams and you know i i just really didn't see ours aligning at all like i feel like whatever i said to him he was just kind of reiterating that and i really wanted him to just like have his own like goals and dreams and i want him to be his own person because i'm a very independent person and I need the person I'm with to be the same when we just grow together. I don't want to like, you know, morph into one and like just, you know. So yeah, I just feel like when I asked him to just have like a day to kind of process everything and he like didn't respect that. That's when it kind of started like chipping away at me and I kind of just knew my answer at that point. But yeah. So you, had then you came to this decision of okay we need to just take a break like i just need some time some

space in that in that moment were you hoping like okay hopefully hero respected hopefully we'll take a beat and you know i'll have some time to think about like what i truly want we'll have a conversation was it in that time that he when you say he i guess he didn't respect it and i want you to be able to have the floor to give your side because we didn't see that at the reunion so did he just continue to constantly reach out? Like what did that all look like? Yeah. So I feel like a lot of people have been, you know, saying like, oh, he was double texting

her. He's a stage five clinger. But like when you're in love with someone, that shouldn't matter. I will text someone like all day long and like I'll have no problem double texting. But it was the fact that I asked him just to have a little bit of space for a second just because we did Paradise, we went to Jersey, we went to Chicago, it was just like nonstop hanging out with each other and like being like with each other all the time to just like, I really wanted to have that opportunity to be like,

okay, just because he's a great person, is he my person? So when I, you know, had that conversation with him, um, a few hours later, just, you know, sending Snapchat's, like Instagram DMs and then like asked me to have a conversation over the, phone. So, you know, I wanted it to like work out and maybe just be able to have the opportunity to like miss him. But when I didn't get that, it just kind of really was hard for me to like overcome that. I will say, I'll be the one to say this. It is slightly unattractive when somebody doesn't respect your wishes.

And one of the things I'll say to Brittany, what I'm hearing and what we've seen on the screen is you are so consistent in protecting your own headspace and your own energy and your own just inner goodwill that it's commendable. And it's something going back to the example of people sending disrespectful comments block. I am overwhelmed here. I'm just going to deactivate this. I'm old alone with this relationship.

Just let me walk away for a second. And to have someone who demonstrates that level of consistency. and it's actually really cool to see. So I'm sorry, things went down that the way that they did. But I'm glad to hear firsthand that you've been able to cultivate a skill set to really deal with whatever comes your way. Do you, oh, sorry, thank you. I appreciate that.

Do you wish at any point things would have been handled a little differently or perhaps more directly where you're like, hey, I need some time. Give me like, for example, three days or, a week. Like, do you, did you ever directly say that? Or were you ever like, hey, I'm going to get back to you in a week. Let's have this conversation over the phone or FaceTime at that point. Yeah. Yeah. I just kind of explained to him. I was like, I need like a day or two. I didn't really want to like give like a dead set timeline. But I, you know, when he called me the next day, he basically explained that, you know, in his past, someone did the same thing where they asked for a

and they didn't talk to him for a couple weeks. And I explained to him, I was like, I'm not that person. I just genuinely would like to kind of process my thoughts and my feelings and really, like, think about this relationship. So, yeah, I mean, I wish there was more of a direct communication on both her ends, because if I was feeling not confident in the relationship, I should have just been more direct with him. But he is such a sweet and nice guy that... I feel like I always kind of got sidetracked whenever I talked to him.

But yeah, I mean, I just looking back, I mean, I didn't really know what to do in the situation. And like, I just really didn't want to waste like either of our time or energies on something. I didn't feel, you know, competent in this early on in the relationship because I think we're only together for like a month collectively. So going into then the finale, you and your mind thought, you had this conversation. I'm assuming you thought you were both on the same page of we weren't into other's person. We've ended things. We're going our separate ways. So walking into that then, did you expect this conversation to go down as it did? Or did you see it taking a completely left turn once you got out there and actually started talking to Tyler again?

I thought it was going to be like a mutual type of conversation because when I first get out there, that's just kind of how it was. They're like, you know, Tyler said his side. story can you explain yours and i was just like you know the transition between paradise to the real world is so incredibly hard um and you really have so many other factors that play into a relationship i just didn't see our lives aligning so we broke up shortly after and yeah i looking back it was just it came across really badly but i definitely thought we were like neutral going into it so yeah oh god i've had to talk some sense and air anything out just directly yeah um you know i texted him like immediately once i got my phone

it was like hey like i didn't know you felt this way um i really wish we could have had this conversation prior to the reunion um just because i didn't know your like your thoughts or anything um but yeah you didn't respond for a few days but that's the thing is when i texted him before i was just like how are you doing and i was like damn three times i was like okay maybe he just wants space you know I was just assuming that just because he's not responding, I don't want to like keep messaging him and like him just being annoyed because when you end a relationship, like, I don't know, different people have different ways of

they could either check up on their person or just completely like cut ties. And I feel like, I don't know. I guess the way I'm wired is I just don't really keep going back to the relationship, I guess. It's like you ended it for a reason and you have to. to stick with that. It's like if you're continuing to talk, then where does that leave you both? Yeah. And that's the thing is a lot of people kind of sent me a lot of hate for doing it over FaceTime. But when you only dated someone for like a month and a half, you live long distance and everything. I just don't really know the way you're supposed to go about it. Like, what do you

guys think. Like, I don't know what I would do. You were in or something like that? What? Was it said that you were in Italy? Did I hear that somewhere? You were in Italy when you FaceTime them and there was a whole... You know, I was actually in London with my friend and I literally was like, I mean, she was like in the bathroom at the time, but I was like in my hotel room and it was right when I got

to London and I was like probably like two days after I got there, but it got misconstrued into, she was flying everywhere. and then, you know, at the end of her trip, like, decided to FaceTime and break up with me. I was blindsided. So, yeah, that's, it was a little bit confusing, too, where this whole, like, Italian fiasco came out. What was that moment for you sitting in a hotel room in London right before you're about to FaceTime on, where you're just like, oh, shoot, this needs to happen. Or what was going through your mind?

We kind of got into, like, a disagreement because he was filming the Mentel All, and he invited me to, to come to California after it was going to be done airing. But my mom had her birthday that weekend. So I told him I couldn't. And, you know, my answer with like, with a relationship as I didn't, I wasn't fully there anymore. I like knew my answer at that point. And I just needed to kind of get away from everything. I feel like I didn't really get an opportunity to kind of decompress. So immediately, I was just like, I'm, I'm going. I'm booking a trip to London. I just need to get away for a sec and, like, actually have a vacation from the vacation because Paradise really is not a vacation whatsoever. No. You're put to work for sure. Yes. But yeah, I mean, I, you know, he just got back

from California and I texted him and I was just like, oh, how was California? And he's like, I'm thinking about moving there. And I was like, you know, it's definitely your vibe. And he's like, how's London? And I was just like, yeah, it's, I mean, I've only been here for like 24 hours or 40. eight hours at that time. It's like, it's great. He kind of said something like, um, uh, you know, you should just move there for the year, like live your life or something like that. And I was just kind of like, okay, is everything okay? Like, did I mean, he told you to move to London for the year? Yeah, because I was just like, oh, it's great. Like I could so see myself living here. And he's like, yeah, you should just live your life and like move there for the year. And I was like, is everything okay?

and then that's kind of what initiated, like, can we face time? And then we, like, had a probably our conversation. And it just, yeah, we kind of went in circles for a sec, but then we ended up breaking up. I mean, I will say this. Like, people have broken up in all sorts of ways. And I've lived through several of them that were recorded and not recorded. If you're dating somebody for a few weeks and it's not super serious and you live across the country, I think doing a FaceTime call I would say

is a fair way to do it, right? Like, it's not like you two were engaged. I've known people on this show who have been on The Bachelor, Bachelorette, Paradise, who have broken up via text, people who were engaged who broke up in worse ways than this.

So honestly, like I know people, again, are critical and are probably giving you shit for, oh my god she did it on face time but given the circumstances i feel like it's totally fair yeah i mean people like said like you know there was like a lack of respect like you guys said i love you and everything but i feel like it would have been a little bit more shitty if i you know booked a trip to jersey or if he came to chicago we spent the whole weekend together and i was like look i i'm not feeling a hundred percent in this relationship we should break up i'm just going to say you showed more time and patience with one face time than other people who have been engaged on this show in the

past have given their partners. So I feel like if I was like smart about this situation and if I was trying to like, you know, lead him on. I would have waited until after the reunion. But I'm just like, I would never want to do that to somebody. And he is such a great guy. So I want to like give him the chance to meet other people and to do like what he needs to do in his path. But. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's just... In hindsight, do you have any regrets in any ways that it went down? Um, I, knowing how he felt after, I wish I checked in. I, even though he didn't respond, I wish I kept, like, you know, trying to be like, hey, is everything okay? Like, you know, can we have

another conversation. But I feel like that's just probably my only regret because I, you know, some people are more sensitive than others and they need that, you know, clarity after a relationship is done. So I wish I did check up on him during that time. And I didn't wait until after the reunion or during the reunion, I guess. Yeah. I mean, I hope just like having you on here to give your take, say your piece and at least like hopefully Tyler can hear, you know like oh i did wish i would have handled things a little bit differently i hope that is is maybe enough and is it and not to say closure because i don't think either of you two at this point probably need closure but just at least something he can take from it um is there

anything that like in terms of the haters and the comments and people that were reaching out and saying just hateful hurtful things to you like that you wish they would know or that you could say to them now just shut them down Um, you know, there's like two sides to every story and you only see a small part of like a way bigger picture. Um, but, you know, just be nice, be like kind because you really don't know the entirety of the story. Um, but regardless, I'm like, everyone's like, oh, well, she put herself in this position. I'm like, yeah, well, I didn't expect to, you know, get like such hurtful comments of just, you know, my physical. attributes or whatever it may be it's just people are a lot mean or online yeah it's a scary place it really isn't especially given the fact that everything is now at your fingertips making it so much easier to spew off anything you're thinking makes it very difficult so okay let's project forward off of the hard dramatic stuff and and talk about what's next for you are you

currently dating anyone? Are you open to meeting somebody either? She's making a face. That's a smile. I'm not dating anyone like specifically. But yes, I am open. I'm single right now and I'm just probably not going to post about like that until everything kind of just airs out a little bit. But I'm definitely in the single dating realm and I would like to meet someone because the holidays you know, they're cold and I wish I had somebody.

It's cuffing season, baby. It is cuffing season. You all got any eligible bachelors? When you say eligible bachelors, do you mean is there anyone in Bachelor Nation to be interested in or was that? Just in general. I don't

like, I don't care if they're in the industry with Bachelor Nation or not. I'm just like, I'm trying to meet like a good person. The only person... Independent good person. The only person I would say from Bachelor Nation at this point in time that I would want to set any of my friends up with would be Rodney.

Oh. Roddy is like a good friend though. Yeah. Yeah. He's a good friend. Okay, really quick. Is there anyone else from perhaps Bachelor Nation that has caught your eye that you maybe didn't meet on

the beach or that you did that you would hope maybe they're still a chance or how about this less pressure on you if one person was to potentially hear this and slide into your DMs is there a certain person you'd want that to be um i always joked about john paul jones because i'm like i loved him um but i'm like the reality of that situation would never happen i mean like he has no idea i don't think he's like affiliated with the franchise at all um but you know there's someone in chicago that i definitely am interested in but from bachelor we're gonna leave that to to uh guessing wait oh okay dustson is sort of in chicago you're like this was is it some from Chicago who was on the beach for the year this summer

who you might have had Andrew was it Andrew? Are we getting some tea right now? No no no no I mean we're just we're just friends but I mean I think that if something came from it

it would be really cool because I do enjoy hanging out with him and he's and you already know how he kisses so like that's done to be fair if I had a shortlist of potential couples that go on a double date with, you and Andrew would be close to the top. So just just throwing out there for our own selfish. We would have the best double date

ever, I promise. But I wouldn't be all, don't get my hopes up now. Damn it. Now I'm just going to want to manifest this to make this happen. I love Andrew. I love him so much. She's like a little brother. No, but for all that we're just, we're just good friends right now and like there's no pressure. And that's what I love about like not having like cameras around or anything. thing because we're just enjoying like our time together but you will be yourselves and live your lives like you would away from it all and that's huge exactly and no pressure but yeah we'd be devastated now don't break our hurts brittany um okay so would you in the future next summer ever ever consider going on paradise again um you know in a lot of my interviews i was like

absolutely not but you know if if there was I don't know I don't know if I would like if there was a good good like if I knew someone that was going that I really wanted to meet then absolutely but I just I feel like I had a good run and I had a really good rewrite of my story and I wouldn't want to come back and for all that to be forgotten because a lot of people were like she faked the whole season and I'm like I really didn't but no I feel like you came across throughout everything that we saw at least as viewers like very real like very true to who you are and that's one thing I will say I actually there was so when Thomas and I were in paradise last year there was a moment where you know everyone kind of talks like who's going to come down on the beach what girls are they bringing in this week

we for a moment thought that you might come down those steps and I was like quite honestly I would love to meet her. I would love to have her on. I think she got the very shitty short end of the stick on Matt's season. I thought it was horrible. And I was like, I would love for her to have a new, better memory of this franchise and kind of rewrite your story, as you said. And I think you did just that. And it was, it was so fun watching you. Yeah. I mean, it would have been so sick to have been on the beach with you the previous summer. But on, Honestly, I'm really glad I waited, just because I really, like, my mental state at the time was not in the best realm. But, yeah, I really needed time just to get away from everything.

And, like, I didn't even post for a few months because I'm like, I just really wanted to get away. But, yeah, I'm glad I waited because, like, coming into the beach with, like, a whole new mindset, not knowing a single person that was going to be there. and just, like, having a fresh start was amazing. Outside of that, do you have any advice for anyone else who might go down to the beach in the future? I think something that really helped me was I, like, came onto the beach sober. So, like, a few months, like, before, like, I just, like, wasn't drinking. And then when I came on, like, it made me very in tune with all my thoughts and all, like, my motives. But, you know, after the pizza peat day, I, uh, unfortunately had a glass of,

wine so i like went back again but if you really want to completely be your most authentic self and like get what you need out of the situation which is obviously trying to find love i feel like being sober definitely definitely helps really helped me yeah no i love that though just to go in with a clear mind what is it clear eyes clear heart can't lose yeah that kind of reality it's so hard I mean, it's just like it's a very easy way to, you know, just bond with everyone, like, everyone, like, let's take a shot together. So, like, I would just be like, okay, Wells, can I have like a glass of water? And it was just, it was definitely hard. But yeah. What were we going to say, Thomas? So now that Paradise is someone in your rear view and you're able to rewrite your future moving forward, what's next for you? I honestly my lease ends in February and I feel like the move is to go to LA just because there's just a lot more opportunities I've tried to live in LA before but my landlord completely screwed me over so I came back to Chicago but I mean I'm just I love Chicago and like I

could live here for the rest of my life but I really need like a change my 20s to be a very like pushing motivational time where I'm just taking risks and like trying new opportunities because I could always come back to all of this. I love that. Yeah. Do you have any plans for the holidays? Is all of your family still in the Midwest? Yeah. They're all in the Midwest. I don't really like, the only thing after the holidays is my friend, she's studying in Madrid for a little bit. So I think I'm to go there for a little getaway. But yeah, it's going to be weird not having my best friend here anymore because she's like literally inseparable with me. So yeah, she leads from Madrid and then I think

I'm going to go visit her right away just to have a little vacay for the birthday. Oh, that'll be fun. Yeah. What are you guys? Good things to look forward to. We're just celebrating here. The goal is I want to clear out the room, get a Christmas tree this week and then just start and celebrate a real one or a fake one. Real one. Big real Christmas tree. Yeah. We have a hand on real overstate Christmas trees. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, you guys have the new space. You got to start putting some decorations or something. I don't know if we can. I just see boxes. It's such a disaster that I'm afraid we're not going to be able to decorate. I have so much Christmas shit like in storage. I'm like, I need to be able to put it out. But yeah, I don't know. We'll just, it'll be super chill this year. We'll spend time with his family. And then we have a lot.

lot of traveling, a lot of weddings next year. So I'm like, let's just take December, chill, relax, and then next year will be crazy town again. But, Brittany, before we let you go, we have to get into two things. So because this was kind of a weird, crazy week and schedules were all over the place. I am just going to share a resource for all of our listeners. And I also, as I'm saying this, I realize I didn't screenshot and share my my resource from last week, so I will do that right after this podcast. But also on top of that one that I will repost. So I pulled this one because it's actually come across in a couple different articles that I've read and I want to start it. It's a, I believe it's a five or six

part audio series called 1619. And I think this would be very fitting because Thomas and I a couple weeks ago went and saw Hamilton and as entertaining and lovely and wonderful as that evening was. I mean, it obviously has to do with our history. And there's a lot just even from seeing that Broadway play that I either didn't remember from history class back in the day or that I wasn't even taught and learned. And I think that's the case with a lot of schools around the country. And so this one gets into, it's hosted. Her name is Nicole Hannah-Jones, but it basically examines American history at the start of our country. And it really gets into slavery. And so each episode is about 30 to 40 minutes. They're quick, quick listens and very informative. So it's called 1619. So that is the resource of the week. And again, I will share that on my Instagram for anyone who needs to find it. And now, as you all know, we always share our rose and thorn. And so, Brittany, usually we do it just for like a specific episode that our guest is on. But because you lived all of paradise and watched it all back, I would love for you to share your rose and thorn from your entire experience throughout these past couple months. There was a date, but basically my producer and I, I hadn't listened to music for a few weeks. And it was the middle of June. And he was like, what song?

do you want to listen to? So I was like heat waves by glass animals and we were just screaming it in the car and that was probably one of the most like liberating best nights in my life because I just completely forgot where I was and it actually felt like I was in paradise at the moment. Biggest Thorn, probably split week just because I didn't realize like how much I cried. And it's just so icky to watch back. Because everyone's like, how are they feeling all these emotions for guys they just met like a few days ago. I mean, yeah, that was icky. Yeah.

I can't imagine I would, Paradise is crazy and stressful enough that I can't imagine living through that, like, and having to be an enjoyable experience. Yeah. I mean, they, thankfully, they cut a lot of fringy moments that I remember doing. So grateful for that because I'm like, I just. Such as what cringy moments? Um, I mean, when Aaron came down, he was someone I really wanted to meet. So they were like doing things like, oh, like, who do you want to meet? And I was like, Erin, they're like, who do you want to kiss more? Aaron or James? I was like, Aaron. I was like, oh, God. So thank God they. Yeah. Erred that all out or they didn't air it off. But yeah. Oh, my gosh. Well, Brittany, it has been so fun having you. I know that I hope that this was a safe space where you could feel like, again, you can give your take on the situation. kind of lay out what actually went down post paradise a bit more for viewers and listeners

to just back off a bit and to realize everyone has a different story, a different way of handling things. And you're just doing your best. We were very happy to talk to you today. You're somebody we've wanted for a while. Well, I really appreciate you guys having me today. I mean, I've just been definitely in my head about everything. So I really just appreciate having the moment to kind of air everything out and kind of say my side of things. um definitely not here to you know shame anyone or to bash anyone i would just like i'm really happy i got to tell my side so yeah well thanks brittany now go relax pop open a bottle of the bubbles i sent you just chill and um yeah enjoy the rest of your week thank you you too well brittney's

lovely yeah i said it to her directly i'll say it again here i am blown away with her levels of consistency and protecting her own mental space. As crazy as this world can be, she's doing a great job of just reserving that love for herself and allowing things that she's going to allow and stepping away from things she's willing to step away from. That's hard to do. So I a break from social media, I think is a good idea. I honestly think everyone coming off the show should do it just for a hot second at least. I really liked how she said towards the end there when she was talking about potentially moving to L.A., like her 20s are for pushing herself and getting uncomfortable and trying new things. And I think that's such a great mentality. It's so smart.

I think it's something that we could all try to do more of, definitely. And so, yeah, she has been someone who we've wanted on the podcast for a while. I've really liked her throughout this season. I'm so glad we actually got to see more of her on Paradise this season, and kind of as her redemption story. So it was great having her on. Huge thank you to Brittany. Tommy, a huge thank you to you, my love, bug, for coming on in a pinch of the moment. Last minute here. I so appreciate it. You're the best. Before you got on, I did say how much I love you and how perfect you were in that. You're just somebody so reliable. So thank you. We already recorded the episode, Ben. You don't got to butter me up, but I'll take it. I don't know. I really do. I just appreciate you so much.

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