Bachelor Happy Hour - Carolina: A Closer Look — Part 2

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re back for part two with Carolina. We pick back up where we left off, getting into the crux of her relationship with Grant. Then, Carolina gets vulnerable and shares her harrowing experience dealing with epilepsy. We explore what this looks like day to day and how she felt opening up about it to Grant. We also look back at everything that went down during her time on the show, including the drama, the finale, and so much more. Where does she currently stand with Dina? Tune in now to find out and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by all-time great Hooper and basketball analyst Candace Parker, who gives insight into her candid new book, including why she waited two years into marriage to come out. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest.

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No, no, no, we're not doing that this season. Oh, well, this season we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special Bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. Get in here. Listen to the Super Secret Festi Club on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Betcher Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are back for part two with Carolina. Carolina, welcome back. Do you think if you had gone all the way to the very end, it would have been enough time for you to feel confident?

and getting engaged? I think so. I think I really wanted, I, I, listen, if Grant thought he was going to get lucky with me at Fantasy Suites, he was so wrong, I was going to yap his ear off, I was going to ask him so many questions. I really was holding on to him asking me to trust him until Fantasy Suites where we could have time off camera to really enjoy each other and have these serious conversations that you unfortunately can't really have during these group dates where you have like maybe

10, 15 minutes to talk to him. So I, it's crazy because I liked Grant so much. And I thought that we, I did have my doubts, but I thought that we could figure them out. And I just remember in the moment thinking when Julian is coming at me, I'm like, she's self-eliminating right now. Like, that's how delusional I was. I was like, she's going to go to him with some drama and he's going to be so against this because I was telling her, he knows where I stand.

I was clear with Grant. I would always tell him, like, you know, I'm still not convinced because this happened and this happened. You know, I held him accountable. I was like, you did tell me that you weren't going to do that and you did it. So it's natural that I have my doubts. But it's like I wanted to be convinced because I did like him and I did really care. And I was like, I mean, you're shooting yourself in the foot by starting drama with me because he knows where I stand. And she's like, I don't think that's true.

And I'm like, well, do you talk to him about me? Like, how do you know where we stand? Yeah. Do you feel like after everything you went through with Grant, you felt like he needed to prove himself to you? Yeah, but I think everyone needs to prove themselves to me. And I think I need to prove myself to anyone that I want to be with, too. Like, trust is earned. And he kept asking me to trust him.

And he kept letting me down. Like, he would say one thing and do another. So I wanted to believe him. I really did like him. You know, we had so much fun on that one-on-one. And that's what I want. Like, I want a partner that I can just like, myself with how like be my best friend um dance with even if i don't know how to dance like we

it's just crazy because look at the person that i was the first like two episodes or three episodes versus like the person that i became um it's completely different um but i thought that that happy version of myself and him seemed like we could have been a great match on that one-on-on-one date you mentioned you opened up about your journey with epilepsy how did you go in to this journey knowing how you were going to approach that like were you expecting to talk about that early on with grant or was that something that you were maybe waiting or did you did you talk to the women about it i didn't talk to the women about it at all again not a lot of people in my life even knew about this but it was something that i had told myself that i needed to address sooner

in my next relationship and it was something that again i felt so understood during the casting process because you open up about everything. And it was so refreshing. And it's something that I had always wanted to be able to do for myself, you know. And it was really scary. But I also felt like kind of like what I said about the casting process in the beginning. Like if it flows and it's easy, like I want to challenge myself to do it because I want to be able to feel free from all of this. And who knows if it also like helps someone else, struggling with this and it did um but yeah i wasn't sure if i i was only going to address it if it felt like he could be my person i was yeah that was kind of if it felt smooth and yeah so

can you just tell us more about how epilepsy affects kind of your daily life and if it was a concern for you going on to such like a strenuous filming process with production and scheduling all of these things and maybe how it affected you throughout the show? Yeah. You know, even going through the process, I was really worried that having epilepsy would prevent me from being chosen to go on the show. I want, like, I try so hard to keep it a secret. It's affected me in jobs before.

And I didn't want to feel like a liability. I didn't want to not be chosen because of that because I've managed to control. it, but I know that people make assumptions and they might think that it's too much to deal with. And, you know, having to let everyone know what medications you're on or, you know, it was, it was, I had to be honest with production. And I think, but I also felt so understood by production and it felt so liberating as well to just be able to talk about it. Like, I'm now talking about it without crying. This was never a thing. the few times that I had talked about it in my life, I would just sob the whole time.

So production being so supportive made me want to try to open up more. And it was scary for sure. I mean, I definitely, like, I need more rest than most people. And I didn't know how that would work with like scheduling and hours and filming. But we were able to make it happen. And I was really grateful for that. how do you feel like it was received by grant when you opened up to him? Oh my God.

That I will like, yeah, he did, he did great. He really took it like a champ. He made me feel so seen. He made me feel like it was genuine. I remember when I was, you know, when you do your interviews, they're like, how does it mean, how does it feel to have received a rose after this date? And I'm like, well, no one's going to like send you home. after you like sob about your trauma story, you know, so I kind of almost like expected that. But it was like the way that he took it, the way that he cried with me, it felt so genuine

that that's what meant everything to me. Looking, looking back now, do you regret not telling the other women about having epilepsy? I don't regret it because it's not easy for me to open up like that. Um, and quite frankly, I don't feel like they deserved my vulnerability, but I do think that things could have been different and things, you know, like people are mad at me for taking a nap. People are mad at me for saying that like, I regret it opening up on the date. And, and they didn't know the extent of why that was. they didn't know that, you know, for a second there, I was like, I just opened up everything that's so hard for me to open up about. And then I didn't even get like much in return.

Like, I didn't get to know the guy on the date. And now I'm like in my head and the whole world is going to find out. And how is this going to affect me? Like, again, with employment and things like that where you Google me and now you know that I have epilepsy. And it's something that I've tried to hide for a reason. We could dive into this. You know, like I used to be a reporter and you'd had to drive the company car for that job. And I had a seizure and then I couldn't drive for six months. And they didn't want to accommodate for me. So this is a big thing for me.

And I didn't tell them why this whole thing was so, like, strenuous for me. They didn't understand why maybe I was more tired and maybe seemed more low energy or more, like, sad or reserved. So I do think maybe it would have been different. But I also think that people need to just let people. breathe and you know if I'm taking a nap and that offends you then that's your problem that I think you need to relax like like people saying that I had a bad attitude because I was taking an app I'm like well producers know that I need to take an app and why do you care so much like I was never mean

I was never you know I believe in like rotten fruit will fall on its own so they could have just let me fall on my own if I was a rotten fruit and I think people decided to jump on me making assumptions about me that, you know, they just didn't have a full picture. And I tried to give everyone that grace and just say, I don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes. I don't know your struggles. I don't know. So I'm not going to attack you for anything. What do you want people who maybe don't know someone with epilepsy, are newly dating someone with epilepsy and starting to learn what do you want people to know or do you wish was more common knowledge about what you deal with. Well, I think everyone's epilepsy is different, and that's a good place to start, for example,

and I know, Joe, you mentioned this, and this isn't anything bad, but you mentioned there's lights in this production. So I don't struggle with lights that way. Like, I can be at a strobe, like, I can be at a festival, and I can be fine. So what I've always wanted is for people to feel like, if once I do tell them that I have epilepsy, I want them to know that they can ask me any questions, and just to not make assumptions because everyone's epilepsy looks different. And I want to say, don't be afraid to ask questions as long as you're being respectful and you're coming from a place of wanting to learn and understand and help those around you. You know, epilepsy can affect your mental health.

It's connected to your, like, that is all in your brain. It can affect so many things. Like, yeah, maybe I am someone who is way more tired. a night after going out than the average person, you know? So just to be kind to to be respectful and I don't know, to just try to have some empathy. Because you don't always know what everyone's going through. Something that you mentioned about epilepsy is it's something that you've kept basically private your whole life. And now you mentioned that you Google your name and it comes up that you have epilepsy. Are you comfortable or happy about that now that it is public

and, you know, maybe you are helping people that do suffer with it? Or is it something that maybe, or is it something you wish no one knew still? I have mixed feelings. In the moment of my crash out, I was like, full regret. There has been really good sides to it. And I'm happy to speak up for those that need it. And I'm happy to have found a community. Like I don't even, I still don't know much about epilepsy because I'm afraid to Google it and, you know, like you Google something and it tells you're dying. And like everyone's is so different. And I wish I knew more about other people's struggles and maybe things that correlate and maybe, you know, like I still don't know anyone personally that has epilepsy. So I'm happy to make people feel less alone. And I'm,

I'm happy to get that for myself as well. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to. I'm not going to lie. It only, it only sucks in terms of, like, employment opportunities because it's like, I know that I can do the job. So I don't want to disclose that I have something that then will make you think that I can't do the job, right? So that kind of sucks. But again, you know, I hope that anyone who decides to educate themselves can see that I'm capable. And, you know, yeah, it is what it is. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. and now I'm seriously suspicious.

Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other,

but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

sis, there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly?

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For more judgment-free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, so then let's quickly jump to the Dina situation. um it seemed like well she had said i've been on i've had your back this entire time and then you guys got into a fight i can't remember all of it um you made up and then women till all fighting again yes roller coaster of a friendship so where do where do you guys stand now what is your take on everything with her i mean we're not friends uh uh I just, I never understood the switch up in the first place because in Spain, she was my roommate, and that's when we got along really well. And from the house, we got along.

And it's like, what changed between now and Scotland, between Spain and Scotland besides the fact that we weren't rooming together, right? So, like, we weren't hanging out. Like, we weren't rooming together, but I would see her kind of, like, pulling away from me. And, you know, I just kind of wanted to, like, let it. be what it was and I saw her like connecting more with other girls and it's it is what it is um but when she got mad at me in Scotland I was like okay so she's mad because she thinks I stole him but once I told her that I didn't steal him I was kind of like so why are you still mad and I thought she was just drunk so that's why I apologize to her not because I felt that I'd done

anything wrong, but because I was like, well, if she's this angry, I'm going to have to watch this back and realize that I must have done something wrong. And I don't want to end things on a bad note. And I didn't know at the time that she went to Grant and told him what she did. So, yeah, and then coming back from that, I, you know, I had text to her. I wanted to see why it was that she was so mad at me in Scotland and I didn't hear back from her until like months later and she apologized for the way that she behaved in Scotland and then she still threw shade at me online.

Yeah, it's just, I don't, I don't know. I think the mob mentality is real and it got to her because I still don't see what could have happened between Scotland, between Spain and Scotland. That made her completely like, 180 her thoughts on me i guess um during the tell-all dina said that she had bought you another week do you think she's right by that listen i it's hard to tell with grant how many like he says one thing and does another so i don't know like in spain i thought that the problem was juliana

and not me and then i got the five the last rose and it was like okay i thought that it was just for TV. I didn't think that he felt that way. I felt like from our conversation, it seemed like we were good. And he was compartmentalizing the two, I guess. I don't know. Maybe, I mean, I'm sure it makes you reconsider things when people are all against one person, it seems. So maybe Dina defending me gave him some peace of mind and then her going against me. Change things. I don't know. Whatever helps her sleep at night.

If she wants that for her ego boost, that's great. She can have it. Yeah, I don't know. From watching the show as a viewer, obviously we weren't there, it seems like, or at least the understanding we're getting, is that the girls plus Dina by the end, their biggest issue with you was, words being used were negativity, they felt like you were, you know, capitalizing on

grant's time too much, didn't want to be there, didn't like grant. Do you feel like any of these concerns are valid? And if not, why? I mean, they're valid. It's just I don't get why they're mad at me about it like i again i wasn't mean i wasn't rude like it's kind of like then just let me be just let me be negative just let me be like they're mad if i don't go home then they're mad if i stay because they were mad that i didn't want to be on the group date yeah i wanted to like when i saw that letia got that other one-on-one i was like it's not me it's letia i want to go home like let me just go home and you know I was told well don't just ghost the guy and I was like okay you know what I'm just going to like push through today in Scotland and then we're probably

going to have to have like that breakup conversation at night and it sucks but but it is what it is and you know the girls were purposely excluding me from everything they I kept like I remember walking like waking up that morning serapina wouldn't even say hi to me and I when I brought up to her she's like well, because I'm not fake. I'm like, well, but you're just being rude. Like you're, it was very clicky, very, like, they were very negative towards me. So it's hard to feel comfortable in that environment. It's, it's, I did feel hated. And they can say that they didn't hate me, which I don't know if I believe. But even if my feelings are also valid, that I felt hated, it's very hard to be positive and peppy in an environment where no matter what you do, people are so critical.

So I guess everyone's feelings are valid. I just don't agree with their actions at all. I tried to stay in my lane. I would have never gone out of my way to tell someone that I dislike them, that I don't agree with them. It's literally none of my business. It's between that person and grant because that's what that person's here for. And again, also, I do want to clarify, like,

just because not everything is shown doesn't mean that there were plenty of other group dates. I remember in the R&B date, everyone, except for L.I., I believe, that I found out later. everyone talked to him during the day except for me and I wasn't mad of them I just didn't I happened to not have time so when Grant pulls me I'm thinking oh probably it's because it's hometown's coming up he's probably going to talk to everyone like this this is probably what the day is looking like and again I didn't know it was going to rain yeah and and I didn't know it was going to rain like I'm just like how did I know that this was just me you were talking to and how did you feel about that conversation with Grant looking back on it? because it did feel like you were kind of in a place where you didn't really want to be there anymore or were questioning if you wanted to be there. And he definitely provided you with what seemed to be a lot of reassurance. Yeah. Me not wanting to be there wasn't me not wanting it to work with Grant.

It was just, you know, it was obviously really hard for me to be there when everyone was against me. And it was just like, if it's not for me, then why am I here? I was willing to fight for it for as long as I needed to. But if it already felt like it wasn't me, then I was just, I was ready to leave. And it is really disappointing because he did give me so much reassurance. Like, you even see that night, I didn't cry when the girls were coming at me because it was like at this point, like, I had cried before because I let you get in my head. let you make me sad and at this point your arguments are so silly and I feel so good about my connection that I'm like I'm good like like keep coming at me this is insane um so I felt very

confident that that we were moving forward I mean he did say that verbatim that he was ready to move forward so yeah do you wish he had sent you home on that rock in Scotland instead of waiting till the row ceremony totally I was literally like just trying to power through the day so I could talk to him at night I was not going to pull him during the day and make it like a sad day you know I just thought that I owed it to him

to not just disappear from the show and not say anything so I was waiting to have that conversation at night and he pulled me aside he gave me all this like reassurance for what I don't know you mentioned you mentioned that you for sure

thought it was going to be Latia you're not the only one on that on this that has come on this podcast and also has said that were you shocked at the finale that he chose juliana um i thought i was going to be letia because i knew that he had said the most to me and letia letia's story about about how he had already said that it was her what she mentioned i had already heard that too so i thought I was delusional enough to think the whole time it was either me or Lettia because I knew that we had gotten the most reassurance or from what I had heard. And when she got that other one-on-one, I thought it was going to be her.

But it's like part of me is shocked, but part of me isn't because Grant kept saying all these things to everyone and he just, he was reckless. And both me and Latia, at least, I don't know if anyone else tried to bring this up to him, but we asked him to tone it down and he kept going. and giving that reassurance. So I don't know. I don't know what goes through that guy's mind. What do you think the hardest part of the show was for you? The hardest part was trying so, like, I remember showing up the first day and telling producers, you guys are going to have the most boring season ever.

The women are incredible. We're all going to be such great friends. and I really wanted that, like, and it really sucks to feel like in trying to protect people from getting hurt, I was made out to be the bad guy. Like, for being realistic, for, it's like, yeah, I saw the red flags. Was I wrong? No. It sucks to be right in the situation, right?

Like, it sucks, but I was right. Every question that I had about him, he proved me right. And so it sucks that. that makes me the bad guy and people are like, you know what you signed up for. Like, no, I didn't sign up to be, I signed up to date the guy. I didn't sign up for him to make me promises that he couldn't keep. And that's what made me spiral. And that's what made me question everything, you know, like, look at someone like Joey.

Daisy could tell the day before she went home that she was going home. He wasn't telling her that can't wait to propose to you tomorrow, you know. So when I go on my first date with you and you're making it seem like it's me and then I still have to like go through all of this and watch you like break your promises over like over and over and over again and I kept telling him my biggest thing is I hate when people over promise and under deliver when they could just shut the fuck up and he laughed and I was like just stop making promises that you can't keep and it sucks that like I genuinely was just trying to protect everyone I was like for the girls and somehow that made me the bad person like I don't know it's

Why do you think he did that? Why do I think he did what? Like made all these promises to all these women. Because he's a man. I don't know. Like I can't imagine a woman ever doing that. Especially after being corrected because that's a thing. Like clearly me and Latia both told him to please stop.

And he kept doing it. He kept giving reassurances. I don't know if he just genuinely felt it in the moment. but like and again i don't think he's like a terrible person like i said before i don't typically believe in like cancel culture i'm not trying to say like screw him um but i just think he was really irresponsible like to be the bachelor you have to have a backbone and you have to stand your ground and you have to one not let yourself be easily influenced by other people and two know that like your words have meaning and that's another thing he oh he literally told me i i

From the very beginning, I was like, don't make promises you can't keep. And he was like, I'm a man of my word. So, like, I wanted to believe that so much. And, you know, you just can't, you can reassure people that you like them right now or that you care about them right now without making future promises. And that's what I wish he had done a better job of. But yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly.

And now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcast, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid news. book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come

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My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke. but that really was my reality nine years ago. I'd just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.

On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? a new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, because I mean, it's still a situation where it's like, it is still a television show, right?

like if he just was like i like juliana from the beginning he can't just walk out with her you know like he has to has to have relationships with okay by the way sorry go ahead no no no uh but he has to have relationship with multiple women but i do understand like the you know over promising or or promising or telling women like i'm going to do this um and then not doing it so i get it's just if you want to sign up for this process as the bachelor you should, if you want to do it right, you should know that you're going to keep your, you're going to keep an open mind, right? That's the right way to do it. So you shouldn't really know until the end who it is because who you like today might change tomorrow. And that's, you know, I think really,

if you were the bachelor and you're like, I knew from day one that it was going to be her, then in my mind, you weren't a good person. Because if I was in that position and I was so sure about someone so early, then I would just have to like cut the show. I made, I made a joke. at our one-on-one, when he was so reassuring, I was like, are we about to pull Claire Crawley here? Because he was so reassuring. And morally, ethically, that's the only way that I could have ever done it. But I think if you want to be The Bachelor, you need to be real with yourself

and be like, there's no way that I know everything about this person in one day. I need to give it that time and let it all play out. So then why are you making these promises? Like, it's just not, I don't know. Yeah, 100%. Leading people on for the sake of TV is, to me, is insane and cruel. And I could never do it. And I don't respect people who can do that either.

I think he has the right to change his mind as The Bachelor. And that's fine. He just, you know, he shouldn't have said what he said. Jumping to Tell All before we play a quick game with you and let you go. chat with us about the outfit decision and also just your overall thoughts on how the night went. So the outfit decision, I don't want to keep fighting with people. I don't want people to think that I actually want to be crazy and evil. But I always have to lean into everything with humor.

And if I stayed home and cried about it some more, people would be mad. And they're still mad that I made the outfit. I kind of have to lean into the joke at this point, try to own. it um it's never my intention to be crazy or evil um but you know just trying to try to make a laugh trying to get a laugh out of it um and then overall what was your other question how did you feel that the night went i i thought that night was awful however i've been surrounded by people that love and that love me and that know me and even at least like in the crowd there were people supporting me I feel like the tell all was kind of a turning point to the people some people

obviously not everyone but some people who really disliked me still felt like that was too much and I can tell you that living with them in in Spain and Scotland was worse than the women tell all yeah you had a hard night you had a hard night for sure um I I want to ask you, though, it seemed like the girl's biggest frustration with you, specifically at the woman tell all, was they felt like you weren't taking accountability for your actions. How did you feel about that? I felt like I didn't mean to hurt Rose. I had already apologized to her so many times. It felt like we were cool.

you know you don't see everything on the show right but like someone else was tried to have a conversation with me and that conversation went really well and I do think that I can take accountability for my mistakes when people aren't attacking me like if you want to have a conversation with me I'm happy to I want to listen I even told dina this in Scotland I'm happy to listen and try to see your point of view but I just don't think the approach is ever appropriate like of attacking anyone is ever appropriate and that's what it felt like um and i think i did take accountability for the rose situation i don't think that i i felt bad about the rose situation i think that

everything else that everyone else had a problem with was just a testament to how mob mentality works like i was attacked for being in my room which is not even true but okay like why is that personal um you know people I don't know they when when you live with a group of women that can only talk about the same group that is already there and they find someone that they dislike they just want to they'll find anything and that's what it felt like at the women till all and living there all right well let's end this on a lighter note we're going to play a quick game with you oh yeah get to know Carolina rapid fire it's really easy just simple questions um okay gold jewelry or silver jewelry both favor gold in the summer like gold when I'm tan silver when I'm like pale I don't know

whatever okay favorite perfume um hold on I don't want to tell you because it's like my my one that is just I don't I don't know that anyone else has it no you're going to gatekeep it I have no I will not get keep anything else but like I've I've tried hard to have I've always wanted to be a person that like you know it's them when you smell it and this one is one that I found that isn't like a very common brand so I'm sorry I'm not a gatekeeper ever I promise it's just like this is the one that like you know that's that's it's fair okay Go to comfort movie or TV show. Ooh. Movie is either she's the man or white chicks, TV show, The Office. Favorite way to unwind after a long day? Checking all of the hate comments on Reddit about me. Oh, no.

No, totally kidding. I don't know, just like hanging out with my family, my friends, my dog. Go to cocktail or mocktail. there's so many this is bad um okay either apparel spritz moscow mule or a leachy martini what are your three essentials you keep sorry i'm really bad of this game you're what was your next question what are three essentials you keep in your purse um lip gloss

and like a travel perfume dream vacation destination oh this is too hard um you guys I'm going to text if I can't do this uh uh three

two okay I really want to go to Japan, but if you mean like something like, uh, no, Japan. It is. Japan is. Okay, that's we're going with. You're like, we really want to wrap this up. Let's go. Uh, and if you were stranded on a deserted island, it could only take two girls from your season. Who would they be? Um, I would take people from production. Okay. Okay. Um, all right, before we let you go, Carolina, is there anything that you want to say or share or let people know? Yeah. I just want to say, we're all human. We all make mistakes. I hope that people can take this and learn from it, give everyone grace, and just move forward. You know, like, I, just because even I had a bad experience doesn't mean that I want to, like, hold resentment against anyone.

want everyone to just be happy. And I hope that everyone also sends me all the positivity. And you know, we can just all walk out of this feeling like we're, we're better after it. Nice. I like that. Actually, quick question before we let you go. Would you do Paradise if they ask you? This is a tough question. I don't want to say no. I don't want to say yes. I, you know, I really struggled a lot socially there and I don't know if I ever like if I could ever be in a room where I feel so low ever again um where everything I say is an issue or not even even anything that I don't say so I'm I'm not sure it sucks because I really like I want to find my person and it sounds like such a fun opportunity and even being like now that we know that

the goldens are going like I want to hang out with them um but I'm I'm not sure yet I think you know I don't know I can't I haven't made it my mind yet okay that's fine um okay well Carolina thank you so much for taking time out of your day thank you guys coming on this podcast thank you for not screaming at me you're good you're good that's not what we do here and to all our listeners thank you so much for tuning in the bachelor happy hour make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast. We will have lots more exclusive interviews coming your way. Thanks for listening.

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