Bachelor Happy Hour - Carolina Part 1: Her Turn to Talk

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Carolina to get all the details on her “Bachelor” experience! We kick off the episode with her journey to the show. From her dating life prior to applying to those first moments out of the limo, she’s telling all! Then, we dive into the peaks and valleys of her connection with Grant — the emotions were flowing and we’re getting all the details. We then discuss all the drama Carolina faced this season, starting with the infamous kiss during the R&B group date. What was the Rose situation from her perspective? She’s telling us everything! Tune in now for part one and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.

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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Badger Happy Hour. I'm Jo. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with our guests from Grant's season. Karolina, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thank you, guys. How are you?

Good. How are you? All as well. All is well. You're going better? Yeah. Now that the season's finally. officially done yes all right where should we let's start um because you haven't been on our

podcast so we haven't had a chance to talk to you during the season let's start from the beginning um okay how did you get on the show yeah i got on the show um because i saw it's funny because my friend my best friends always wanted me to go on the show we've always watched the show and they're all married and i'm the one that's not um but i always figured like applying would be such a like hassle and nothing would get read. Like it just seemed like this long form. And I saw this, like a sponsored ad on Instagram. And it was a casting person saying like, oh, let me know if you want to apply.

So I just DM him did not expect anything from it. And it just moved super quickly. Wow. Where do you, where do you live? I live in L.A. Okay. So you go on the show, you get cast it. What are your initial thoughts?

Are you excited, nervous, hesitant at all? Um, so I was excited. I felt like, you know, it felt like a right fit. It felt like Grant, um, would be a good match with me. Um, I knew that he had lived, um, he had played basketball in Puerto Rico and the DR. Um, so I knew that he had that in him. And, um, I watched one of his interviews on the vial files and I was like, oh, he seems really emotionally intelligent. Like, it felt, I don't know if you guys can tell, but I'm a very anxious person. Um, and it felt like, I felt at ease. Sorry, I kind of yapped a little bit there. No, you're good. It's a podcast. You have all you want. You felt at ease because you thought you and Grant would mesh well?

I felt that we would mesh well and I felt that me and production would mesh well. It just felt like harmonious. No, that's a good word for it. So going on to the show, what is your dating history? and where are you at kind of in your dating life, your journey, and during The Bachelor? So I had only had two serious relationships prior to the show. One of them was like the healthy kind of love when I was younger and it was like a few years and it didn't work out but it wasn't anything negative or traumatizing or anything bad.

And then my second serious relationship was the DJ that I mentioned that everyone seemed to think was hilarious um and that one was pretty bad um but i learned a lot about what i want and what i don't want and sounds super cheesy to say but i don't know if you guys have heard this but i've always heard that typically you have like three loves in your life you have like the puppy love the one that gives you the heartbreak and the lessons and then you find your person and i just felt really ready for that um yeah okay so that's kind of where i was at okay nice and then what are your initial thoughts, stepping out of the limo and seeing Grant in person for the first time? So everyone had asked me, like, are you nervous?

I was like, no, I got this in the bag. Like, I'm going to be confident. It's going to be fine. No, I got so nervous. I knew that my little bit was going to be like in Spanish. But I didn't think it all the way through because I thought he was going to be like laughing at me because he didn't get it. But I think he wanted to be respectful.

So he was like, but I could tell that the joke wasn't landing, you know? And I'm like, oh my God, like he hate me. I'm going home. Yeah, it was, it was awkward, but we made it through it. It didn't. Watching it as an audience member, it didn't feel awkward, but we also had subtitles. So I felt like viewing it, we were like in on the joke with you. You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. I think I also like said the same thing twice. Maybe with the subtitles, you can't tell. But wait, I'm so sorry. That's okay. My dogs are deciding to not behave right now. One sec. I'm so sorry.

You're good. You're good. This is not the first puppy interruption we have had. Yeah, I mean, I used to podcast with Tia and her dog interrupted us every time. Okay. Okay. Our grant was physically, is he your type? Yes.

Well, okay. I don't really have a type because if you look at my dating history, like everyone looks super different. But I thought it was really attractive. Okay. That's good. That's a good start. And then walk us through your first conversation with him, night one. It was really sweet.

I also, I still feel awkward, though. You're not used to dating someone on camera. So you have like these, like, bright lights on you. And it's like you feel like you know a little bit about this person, but they know nothing about you. And you don't know how much you want to share. You don't want to get too deep on night one. And it was never my intention to tear up on night one. but our conversation just started flowing and you know my dad had just recently gone through

a health scare and that's why that was really heavy on my mind um and it was just really sweet and um so you your first conversation you felt like well went well it's obviously the most overwhelming is night one you know cameras lights it's like kind of a jarring experience and obviously you got emotional sorry no it's okay yeah i was so in my head i was so in my head I was so in my head. I was like, because you see the sweet moments, but there was definitely like a, you know, where someone's like, so like, what are your hobbies?

And you're like, oh, this is not going well. Like when you have to ask that, it's like such a like filler question. You're like, he hates me. I'm going home. Yeah. I think a lot of people feel that way. Like, I mean, I was in my head constantly on that show. Yeah.

But that's interesting here because I feel like watching night one back, it, you know, if we were to name a couple people that seemed to have like a really good first conversation, it seemed very natural. But you felt like you were like, oh my gosh, I don't know how that went. Maybe I'm going home tonight. Like you feel confident you were getting a rose. No, not at all. And by the way, by the way, people are saying like, she's so dramatic. She's like shaking. I wasn't shaking of nerves, though. It was really cold. But I did feel that way. On the inside, I'm like, like, my name wasn't called into like the middle, which is so dramatic of me to already be assuming that I'm just going home. But I was like, it's not me. It's not me.

It's just not happening. Okay, so let's jump to, I forgot, you know, I forgot exactly the group date, but it was the group date where you danced with Grant. And I feel like that's kind of, that was kind of the start of everything for you. Yes. Okay. Okay. So just in the moment and like right after, how did you feel that interaction or that moment

went with grant with grant i thought it was great like the dancing portion we were just like talking and laughing the whole time like because i didn't know what i was doing um and it was really sweet and yeah we just had a lot of fun and i finally felt like i really clicked with him like i still had i was still in my head about the first night um because the first night you're really just trying to like not get sent home because you know that you're not going to be able to establish that strong connection right away. So it's kind of like I felt like if I got sent home night one, it would have sucked because he didn't know the real me if that makes sense. Like at that point, I was like, okay, we're really building something and he's seeing like who I really am. So you're starting to

feel more secure in the relationship probably also. Yeah. And I just think that like I was so nervous like day one and this time we were just having fun. So I felt more at ease. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend. former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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So let's let's let's talk about, now we need to talk about that because that was probably I would, that was like the biggest storyline of the show. I mean, we've talked about it. Can we go? Can we back to rock real quick? Yeah. I want to, I want, I just wanted to be known that the crowd was screaming, kiss, kiss, kiss. So to me, it really felt like, like, it's like a performance. like we're having like we're joking with it we're having fun and that is why i felt so bad because i was

like it felt like we were all such great friends up until this point and i just remember even from night one everyone was talking about how they kissed him and whatever and it felt like it was just like girly pop chat like no one's that invested yet and i was insecure because i didn't kiss him and so i was just like whatever like we're having fun it's like it's like i i meant it but it was like a performative like it was you know so i that that it that's kind of why i felt so bad after the fact because it was like wait oh like oops yeah you kissed them in front of the entire group but also like but when a crowd is chanting kiss kiss kiss like what do you do no like stay shy and not do it like and it happens every season like you are not the first girl to kiss them in front of

the rest of the girls on a group date yeah i will say and i can admit the straddling was a lot but I will in my defense and I am sorry to everyone I remember when I was with him from night one I was like I don't know how I'm ever going to kiss this guy because my dresses are tight and like I'm never like I'm like awkwardly like it felt like this is like I'm wearing pants this is the one time that I could get comfortable to kiss him because I was another thing that I was so terrified of kissing him on camera and it being so awkward um so yeah because you're like in a little mini like in a little and like he's so tall and you're like he's so tall and you're like you're like you're like like you know like it's just yeah okay so um okay so let's talk about like give us let's talk

about the night portion of that date yeah so we go to the night portion energy is a little off you've kissed him you've had a little extra dance time the girls are not feeling so hot tell us how that night unfolded for you so right after we danced um i had noticed that the girls seemed like off but i thought everyone was tired or i was given like i tried my very best throughout this whole process to not make assumptions so i was like maybe they're just like tired and and i get it like i'm tired too and they were just standing there for a while like at least I had, like, the adrenaline going up, like, dancing. So, you know, I did pick up on that, but then it felt like everything was fine.

You know, we go, we change. And I had, I was only with one girl and she was happy and seemed normal. So, like, walking in, I didn't realize that anything was off. Like, I felt like walking in, everyone looked fine again and, like, re-energize or rejuvenator. I don't know what I'm, what word I'm looking for. So that's why I was like, wait, so you guys are frustrated. did they say yes to that were they like we are and did you guys talk about it well that that's also where my frustration comes in um there was one comment that was made that was like

yeah we are frustrated but like because we all tried so hard but see we're such great friends that we didn't make you feel like we were and for someone to say that I was like well then let me tell you that you're a great like you're kind of like backtracking and by letting me know that you're not making me feel bad like do you want me to give you like brownie points for that and that was where i felt that like oh okay um damn this is going to be a conversation that keeps happening all throughout the night because that's what it seemed like and people are coming back from their conversations with him saying like yep we talked about that and so that's why i was like why is everyone like focusing on me like i really am

sorry I didn't mean to like hurt anyone but also we knew that it was a competition and that someone was going to win the time like it wasn't like he decided to not give somebody else attention it was like we we knew it was a competition so someone had to win yeah did you express that yeah and to be honest I don't think like I left that night thinking that we were good like I did not to me didn't feel as dramatic from the group as it did from one person so I thought it was one person that started the train of the conversations going a certain direction. And it felt like it was all like we were all over it by the next day. So do you feel like that night the frustration was more about the situation or do you feel like it was really about you? And where did you

feel like your relationship with the girl stood kind of leaving that night? Leaving that night, I felt awkward but it didn't feel like it was the start of drama like I think they were you felt like it was like a tough night but like yeah we're going to move past this yeah it felt like the girls were saying like look we were forced to watch you do that but we're not going to like really hold it against you um like yeah it sucked but you know it seemed like we were fine so my frustration was more about one girl starting a train of like damn just as completely invalidate like all the good times that I just had like I want us all to be support like I'm not always going to win the competition so I want to be able to like be happy for the person that wins the next time um because

that's how competition is um so it was like your feelings are valid but it's also like oh like that sucks you know she also had said on the way there that if there was any drama that we should try to address it with each other because of what had happened with the basketball date rather than bring it up with grant and i was like that's a great plan so it felt kind of like wait so you said this and then you're like dragging me into something i don't know it just felt icky yeah that you your hope was that everything could get resolved amongst the girls and not have grant get involved yeah that was always the goal for me oops okay so let's let's now jump to what was the it really seemed like the story of the season

which was the conversation that happened off camera with you and Rose and Littia. Rose and Latia, correct? Latia wasn't in the first part of that conversation. Okay. When she said what Grant said, it was me, Rose, and Dina in the room. Okay. Do you want to walk us through that conversation? Sure.

Um, I was expressing to them because we had all already discussed. So Rose, Rose had already told me that Grant did the exact same thing for her and for Latia on the finance date. So we were kind of like, how much of this is Grant versus how much of this is forced on him to do certain things, but then how much is real and how much can we trust. Wait, by exact same thing, what are you referring to? I don't know what it was because they never even aired. it but I guess he like did like some grand gesture for them okay like on their one-on-one time later that night on the on the on the either the basketball date or the finance date I don't I don't remember okay so finance because they were yeah so you so you so you guys are kind of piecing together in this moment like grant is saying and doing some of the same things for all of us yeah for them too and I had just gotten back from my one-on-one and And we were just kind of like, so how much, like, we know we signed up for a TV show, but like, what is real and what's like performative and how much of that is his choice and like how much, you know, and I mean, on my one-on-one, Grant said a lot. And you have to keep in mind that, like, for me opening up the way that I did, that's not something that I talk about with anyone.

Like, I knew that I was going to open up for not just him, but for the world. And it was only something that I was willing to do if I felt really good about him in the moment because it is really scary for me. And we can talk about that some more later if you want. But, you know, I have this, like, amazing date. And the guy is super into me, it seems. And unfortunately, once I finish my epilepsy story, it, like, wraps up like that. And it's like, you got to go.

And I'm like, wait, but what about you? Like, I want to know you. I want to know more about your story. I want to, like, connect more. And I also don't want it to come across as if I'm ungrateful. Like, the plane is great. The jumping out of something is great. But I even told him, like, this isn't real life.

Like, I want to have more conversations with you. That's all I really care about. And so we didn't have the time to do that. And then I get back home. Sorry, I feel like I'm literally going in circles again. No, no, you're just telling your story. But let's, yeah. Okay.

so then going back to the conversation after your one-on-one you have a conversation with rose things are said can you kind of break down that situation for us yeah so rose that told me that granted the exact same thing for her and letia and you know he he was saying a lot to me um from on my one-on-one i'm piecing it all together because in the moment when you're living it, you're kind of like so happy. And then you haven't really processed it. So I'm processing all of this in real time with Rose, who was telling me, you know, he did the same thing for her in Latia.

And then he was also saying a lot to Dina. And we were both like, damn, like, this is crazy. And I will say, she did say, should we keep going or are we going to hurt each other? And I was like, no, let's like, let's help each other, like, not fall for any, anything, you know? Like, if this guy's, like, playing us, tell me. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other But I just want her gone Now hold up, isn't that against school policy That sounds totally inappropriate Well according to this person

This is her boyfriend's former professor And they're the same age And it's even more likely that they're cheating He insists there's nothing between them I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him Because he now wants them both to meet So do we find out if this person's boyfriend

Really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale Listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemel Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.

What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your. constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held

high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.

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Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't think that Rose just pulled that out of thin air. I think she really thought he said that. And it was obviously very concerning. And it's not something that I can let slide. Like if this guy is just respecting. me like that, um, I don't want to be a part of it. And I really, really didn't want to get her involved in the drama. Um, I tried my best. I feel really bad that I did. Um, I tried to protect her

identity. And when I left my conversation with Grant, it felt like, I mean, that's another thing. He told me he told me he was going to, he told me, I'm going to protect you. I'm not going to look into it. Um, because I told him, I know you're probably frustrated. We can discuss it later on if you really need to. I promise you this person has no bad intentions. She's, not just, you know, it was just miscommunication. And I was telling him, I was coming at him from a place of you're doing a lot and saying a lot to a lot of people, even to me. And I even told him, because I was still trying to protect him. I was like, you whispered something in my ear during our one-on-one. I didn't even want to repeat it on camera to protect him. But you're doing a lot.

And I need to be able to trust you. And I'm kind of, you know, and I felt so good and so like, wow, that's a man when he's like, you're fine. I'm going to. protect you i'm not going to look into it like it's fine i was like oh that is like that's hot okay i'm sold and you know then he comes and finds me apologizes for going to rose because he figured it out and i'm like damn like i'm frustrated but i get why you had to do it i just wish next time you could like tell me ahead of time before you drag me into it like um and then i come back in the house and minutes later Chloe's crying because he told her about the drama and now the whole house knows. And so not only did he make a promise that he couldn't keep and went to Rose, he now brought it to the entire house.

Knowing that I was really scared that it would lead to drama. So I was really disappointed. Okay. So, but when you left that conversation with Rose, what was agreed upon between both of you? was it was there no understanding did you say like hey i won't repeat this you won't repeat this no okay so so what so so so we we kind of made made jokes like oh we're going to protect each other and like dina and rose like giggled and i tried giggling too but it really was still sitting with me it was a pit in my stomach feeling and had i told her that i wasn't going to

repeat it I would I would never like my word means everything to me and I remember thinking like I hope she doesn't ask me to not bring it up because I don't know how to move forward without it and I was like I need to sit with it and think about how I can not betray her but still find the answers that I need and I went to bed trying to like pretend that everything was fine but it wasn't and the next morning you can ask anyone like I really had like a pit in my stomach feeling I was like I was so anxious, you know, I thought I was just going to go home because I believed her. Looking back on that night specifically, is there anything you wish you had done differently and is there anything you wish Grant had done differently that you feel like could have

allowed the situation to unfold in a better way? I wish Grant had stuck to his word. I wish Grant had, you know, my frustration with Grant is. like don't make promises you can't keep like if he had just told me hey i need to address it with rose we could have both gone and addressed it with her um i think i mean i do feel really really bad that rose was dragged into it um i really tried to protect her i thought i did a good enough job like i walked away from that conversation thinking he doesn't know who it is when he's listing names i'm like no but stop because i didn't want him to there's there's a moment when someone says, like, is it this person?

You're like, I'm not going to tell you. It kind of sounds like you are. And I definitely didn't want to like attribute it to someone who wasn't it. But I'm like, no, but stop right now. Like, I didn't want him to keep going down the list. And I also didn't realize that there were two people that had been on that date who had already left. So in the moment, I think in my head, I'm picturing the date. And I'm thinking there's still other people that it could have been.

It just felt like he doesn't know. And he's okay with it. And I'm walking away with it. with the resolution that I needed and I didn't let my friend down and you know that was that so I do wish sorry go ahead looking back on it now do you wish you would have told rose like hey this is affecting me and if if I talk to grant I may bring it up do you wish you would have given her that heads up I I wish, no, I wish I could have done a better job of protecting her.

I felt like if I told her that I wanted to bring it up, she would have asked me not to. And again, I can't commit to something and then not follow through. So I wouldn't have been able to tell her I won't do it and then do it anyway, you know? And I was just, I really, really wanted to protect her. and I didn't want to stress her out and have her think it's going to get back to me. Like, you know, I thought I was going to be able to pull it off. I really did. So in your ideal world, it would have been like, bring it to Grant and it ends there.

Like, you have your one conversation with Grant and, like, Rose's name never gets brought up. And you guys, like, air it out between you two and then it's done. Initially, I was so confident that what she said was right that I was going to, like, walk up to him and be like, I'm done. Like, I'm not even discussing it. Like, I want to leave this show right now. like I'm over it. But then I let it sit with me and I was like, I'm thinking it all through and I'm like, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

And what I'm assuming might have happened is he may have said it in a way to like pacify the situation from that group day where everyone was upset. But what I was letting him know was if it is me at the end of all of this, I don't want to watch it back and be humiliated. And I said those exact words to him. if you did say this even if you didn't mean it even if even if um now uh you feel different because now you're more into me or whatever it is like i don't want to watch this back and be humiliated i i want a man that like stands by his word and doesn't have to like bring me down

to lift someone else up but i also thought maybe he didn't mention my name maybe he was just trying to you know so in giving him that benefit of the doubt that's kind of like all i wanted to do and and I hope that that's not what he had said to someone. What do you believe? What do you think really happened? Do you think he said it? I don't think he mentioned my name from what we saw in that clip. But I do think that Rose was valid in thinking what she did because he's saying,

I'm not going to lie. Like I was thinking about you. And it kind of sounds like, like, oh, like I'm not going to pretend that I wasn't to her because I was thinking about you. I. Well, I don't know. That's very different. like if if grant said like I was thinking about you on the date that's very different from saying

I was thinking about you while I was dancing with carolina like those are yeah but I feel like watching the clip I can see where I see both sides I see both sides and that's what I wanted to believe and I was like I can see both sides but I also think that grant is saying weird things to too many people and I'm just trying to tell him like you can do things and reassure other people without doing too much and being disrespectful. And that's what I really wanted to clear the year with. Do you feel like you had a sense of anxiety or paranoia about the way Grant was moving after this incident with Rose and Grace? Absolutely. Absolutely.

It's frustrating because Rose wasn't mad at me that night. She was mad at him and she came crying to me and we talked about it in the room and I don't know why she changed your story later. So Rose wasn't mad at you after she found out you said that to Grant. She was fine. No, she came to me like, no, she wasn't fine. She was crying. But we went up to her room to talk about it. I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry, whatever.

And she's like, no, like, I don't even know if I want to be here. So it was kind of like both of us like talking about him and I was like, oh, damn. And that's already a red flag for me too because it's kind of like if you're not treating Rose well and if you're not treating the other women well then like why like that's still a red flag for me right

like I want a guy who's going to be respectful to everyone there was just a lot going on in my mind that I was just like can I trust this guy and I was crucified for that. So. Go ahead. I was going to say let's move on from Rose. So I was yeah jumping from Rose

because we kind of see that unfolds and then we see Rose goes home the following week. Let's move on to your conversation with Juliana. Can you just walk us through, you know, Juliana pulls you outside. It seems like you are unassuming of like what is about to happen, what she's pulling you aside for. And we see she wants to address kind of your behavior in the house and how it's affecting the other women. Were you surprised by this conversation or did you have a sense of like there was turmoil in the house surrounding your relationships a little bit? I was surprised about the topic of the conversation. I was not surprised that Giuliano was trying to stir the pot, which is why I was like trying to shut it down.

I was like, you're not going to catch me fighting another woman on TV. like I was just like this I'm bored like I don't want to be a part of this um she said I believe on your podcast that that she lost her cool when the Rose situation happened and she did so after the rose situation Juliana came at Rose while Rose was already crying right after that Rose ceremony and she's like in front of everyone she's calling her out like she should have like talk to Grant directly blah blah blah and I had to step in and defend Rose and be like If anything, blame me, but, like, why are we doing this? Let's not fight with women.

Like, it's going to be fine. Like, let's move on. So, you know, I never had, like, a friendship with Juliana. So when she pulled me, I was like, okay, what's this going to be about? And, yeah, it just felt like it was performative. I feel like at the hotel, we could have talked about it. We could have had a civil conversation the same way that me and Rose did. we didn't want me and rose didn't feel like we were trying to create drama for a TV show it felt

like we were friends and with juliana was like you you couldn't I told her this I was like you could have addressed this at the hotel you don't have to be doing this like for show um and the way that she approached it is she comes up to me and she's like I'm just going to keep it real because we've been talking shit about you and I just want you to know before it airs so that's why I'm like okay so what is your question like I don't even know you're not trying to have a conversation with me you're trying to i don't know if it's like assert dominance or or have like this hero like arc or something that you're protecting grant i don't it just felt like it came out of left field and i and her saying seemed like that because i remember that i remember that

conversation and being like what did we just watch like what and i just didn't understand because you you also watch it with the interviews so you know what they're saying or they're thinking going into it but like when she's coming at me and saying that they're talking shit about me i'm like about what like and then she's like um well you you have like doubts about being here and i'm like well the thing is like and you guys know how this works in the real world you don't talk about you don't talk about your relationship with a guy with the same girls that are dating him like but here we have to right and so i was like how am i being negative by being neutral by saying i I do like him, but I still have questions.

I still need to get to know him more. I still, like, I feel like that's always been a part of the show. Like, we've always, part of the show is struggling with getting to know the guy while he's still spending time with other women. And it was like, what do you mean I'm negative? Like, what is, I'm, I wasn't seeing, like, where was coming from. So I just didn't understand it. Yeah, it seemed like a lot of the women were under the, it was just like, carolina has gotten time with him and she's not appreciative and she's complaining and

doesn't want to be here or doesn't think this is working meanwhile none of us have time have gotten time right like that was right that seemed to be the general argument from yeah but i think well i just think that like just like grant didn't know who he wanted to be with and that's fair like it seems so like I don't know like embarrassing anti like anti feminist to be like I'm going to bow down to this man because he's the bachelor and have no doubts about him because he's the bachelor so like at this moment I remember asking juliana I was like so you mean to tell me that if he proposed to you you can absolutely say that you will say yes and she's like yeah and I'm like well then I'm sad for you because you haven't even been on a one on one so how can you know that you

want to be with the guy like I don't think you know it's it's a whole process and even that whole process is really short it's a short amount of time to get married to get engaged to someone but like we still had more time to go so I wasn't saying I hate the guy I don't want to be here I was saying I feel like I need more time yeah I think that's fair okay I think this is a good place to stop the interview everyone please stay tuned because we will be doing part two with carolina Thank you for tuning in to Bachelor Happy Hour. Yeah, and be sure to tune into Part 2. Thanks for listening. Bye.

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