Bachelor Happy Hour - Catherine Lowe: Baby Fever, Marriage Advice, and More | Golden Hour

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re here with Bachelor Nation icon Catherine Lowe! Catherine is here to catch up with us, dish out some advice, and so much more. We start things off by learning all about her and Sean. What’s their secret to making their long marriage a happy one? Is there another baby in their future? We also get Catherine’s take on some big relationship questions: What should you know about your partner before deciding to have kids? Plus, we talk all things 2026: the Bachelor cruise, learning from 2025, and so much more. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And Kath, how are you today? I'm fabulous. I'm cold. it's, you know, January and it's 60-something and she's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. But today, I can't, I just can't wait. So I got to get right into it. We have a very, very special guest. Please welcome from The Bachelor. Truly, when people say who is your favorite, this person is one of my favorites. Catherine Lowe. Hi, Catherine. And welcome to Golden Hour. How are you? Hi. I'm good. Thank you for having me. It was more than a minute ago, but we loved your season. I can't believe it was 2013. I'm not joking.

Long before I was on Golden Bachelor, I watched a lot of the seasons. But I'm not kidding, Catherine, your season with Sean. Like I've been embarrassed to say, I've watched it more than once. You guys were spectacular. I just have to say that. Thank you. We had a good time. We had a very good time.

I just was hoping when I started that I wasn't gone the first night. That was my hope because I just, I know that on paper, that was like a regular fear. But I was, you know, on paper, Sean Lowe and I do not make any sense, zero sense to get the other. And once we just started rolling and I got to know him, he just was somebody who I really enjoyed being around. And I think they cast really nice girls for him. So it was a nice environment to have, even though there's always drama. I still had a lot of fun with the girls. So it was really good.

Wait, I have to ask. I can't let that one go. We've got a bunch of questions for you, Catherine. But why would you say on paper you guys were not a fit? Well, he is kind of like all-American, you know, football, guy from Texas. And I was like a hippie from Seattle who wrote the bus and was vegan. And like, so you just would not put us together. But he was like somebody who I would have a poster on my wall.

You know, I was like a dream guy. So I kind of won. I saved up all my coins. Oh, you're just best friends. So wait, do you guys live in Texas? You leave in Texas. Yes, we live in Dallas. Well, it's called University Park, but it's Dallas.

I know where it is. I live in Austin. Oh, okay, perfect. Yeah, very close. Yeah. And I was in Arlington, Texas. Oh, that's where. Sean Lowe's from. So he, yeah, he went so great. There's a lot of Texas connections.

Yes. I was there for nine years. So you guys have been married. How long now, Catherine? Well, it's actually 12 years in a couple weeks. And three children. Three babies, three children. What would you say is the secret? I mean, we all know marriage is tough. What's your secret, even though you are the perfect couple, I will say. What is your secret to making marriage, to making it last? Tell us your secrets. Well, I would say it's twofold. One is commit. You know, we might not like each other every day, but you love each other.

And that's kind of what you strive to remember. And usually the other person doesn't really want to hurt you. We just may see things differently. And so really committing to the idea that that's who you're going to be with and that's who you committed to. But also, like, we have so much fun. And we genuinely are best friends. And so I would say like laugh together and have fun together because that's what we do all the time.

I mean, I looked so ugly this morning and I was doing the dishes. And I was, but he was like joking with me and we literally just said like, we're best friends. We genuinely enjoy being together. And we spend so much time together because we really, we really do have fun. And so nice. I think that's shown how we figured it out at least now. You know, it's only been 12 years, so. That's a long time.

And three kids. Yeah. I love it. And your daughter name, her name is, M-I-M-I-M-A. Mia. Okay, so I have a granddaughter. It is Maya, and we spelled it the same exact way.

So when I said, oh, she's got a Maya, and they said, no, it's a Mia. So have your kids, have your kids watch the Bachelor, Catherine? Have you allowed your kids to watch the show? So they're 9, 7, and 5, or 9, 7, 6, but they've seen clips. They've seen our wedding. They've seen, like, when my mom, like, they did the hometown visit, so they saw people that they recognize.

But they're really not interested. They don't. They don't. Mom, you're so weird, right? And, you know, Sean Lowe's like, you know, there's very small moments where it's just us. He's like, doesn't want to show them. all the other girls. So we're shielding them for a little bit,

but they've seen really special moments of our proposal. I think they're so not. I mean, it's funny how uninterested they are. They will when they get older. They will. I saw your post about your daughter turning six. I saw your post about Maya turning six. And I just, you know, I know the youngest one.

I also had three children as to Susan. And it's just when. that youngest one starts growing up. It's tough. I know. God. I know. It's like you just don't want them to, yeah, you don't want them to grow up, but you, I mean,

I've cherished every season. I think this is probably our easiest season. And I don't, like, I kind of don't know what to do with my arms because I'm like, I'm not holding. I'm not feeding. I'm not changing. And they all free go to the same school. They have the same schedule, which is a dream.

But it's also like where, where's my limb? I need my kids. Will you have any more? Are you finished having babies? It's funny that you ask that. I think we're done. It's like 99.9.9. But recently with, you know, Jojo had a baby.

Kayla Quinn had a baby. I have friends over here that have just had babies recently. And I've had baby fever probably for the last month and a half. But then you also look at your children and like the stage that we're in is so wonderful. And it's really easy. And I just get to have this rapport with my. kids, that it'd be hard to start over. But you know, you never know. You never know. It's funny. You have two boys and then your girls, you're youngest, right? Yes. Yes. And that is me.

I had two boys and then I had a girl. And when my daughter was six, I think, at same age, I really wanted another child, but I wanted a daughter. And so my husband said, listen, if you can underwrite another girl, let's do it. So that's why I only have three children. I couldn't underwrite another girl. I just think sisters are so special. I have two sisters. I'm very close to them.

And so I feel like half of me is like, I'm so sorry I didn't give you a sister. but then I kind of get to fill that role with her, and it's such a cool friendship that I've developed with her. So I'm excited for those chapters of just having it be me and her and girls' trips like that. But, you know, a sister, I'm the same as you. I would love another daughter. And my sons actually would love another sister.

So I'm in a sticky spot, but I think I'm just content with where we are at. I would advise stay right where you are and do it. And then you have life again afterwards, you know? Yes, yes. But there is so much we want to talk to you about. Besides your secret of making it last, what would you say? Do you date each other every week? Like, do you have a special night for just you too?

How do you keep your romance? Well, we honestly, we both work from home, and I know that that's a lot of couples, too. We just make sure that we connect with each other all the time throughout the day. We don't have date nights. I would say most months we don't have date nights. It does kind of start to show the romance a little bit erode when you're not having that connection that's less playful and more romantic. So we are scheduling, like we're having a date night on Saturday because we've got,

it's gone too long. But we just try to make those connections. I make him lunch. So I'll bring him lunch and we have a moment there and just being able to see each and check in with each other. I would say consistently. It's what's worked for us. If you do work from home, make sure that you do have intentional moments with your partner. We also try to get the kids down early. And so we have that time. We love watching movies. We love watching shows. We have a very similar taste in that. So if we get the kids down at a, you know, 738, then we'll still have

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Let's start with your cat. How is she? She is not with a thing. Okay, great, great, great way to start. So this is a great beginning and hopefully you'll be able to, I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seifred. Life is so short. If you feel something like that, you have that fire in you for this experience. It's not for a guy.

It's for the experience of being in love and like it's bigger than a guy. Elizabeth Olson. I love swimming naked so much. And I know you love taking pictures of yourself. I love to be naked. I just want to be in my brown underwear all the time. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me?

Are you a boy or girl? Oh my God. That's so funny. I love it. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butcher it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up is basically like Doris Day. Right?

No, I turn into Be Arthur. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was doing a little snooping. I don't mean to sound weird, but honestly, I just think you, you too just epitomize what I think a wonderful marriage and love should be. And I was watching a video that you guys were talking about aging out of Bachelor and someone thought that you were in the bracket of the Golden Bachelor Paradise.

So I was on Golden Bachelor and I went to Paradise and I was laughing. I thought, Catherine, you are a lot of things, but you are not. Let's just put it out there right now. You are not in the Golden Bachelor. I actually would prefer that category to Paradise in terms of the old paradise where it was very like, you know, mingling. So I'm happy to be in. the category that you guys were in. I do have a question for you.

I read that you guys went to a marriage boot camp. Oh my gosh. Tell me about that. So we did a show, I think it was like, it was right before we had kids. So it must have been like a year into marriage. Okay. Two years into marriage. But we were the only people on the cast that were even married.

So it was kind of an interesting dynamic of people that were there. But it actually helped us. because there was so much chaos with the other people. We actually got along with a lot of them. But because there was so much going on, we really, like, solidified our bond within the house. I think it was two weeks. And it was, like, Honey Boo Boo's mom,

and people from basketball-wise and, like, bad girls club. So we were probably considered, like, snooty or, you know, like, up andy or something. But we were just like, what is going on? This is not at all like what. Right, because it says marriage boot camp and nobody was married but you. Yeah, I know. Pretty much relationship boot camp.

But there were certain like things that we did in terms of communication and how to do things, you know, obviously produced. But that was a very, that made us really have more discerning choices later. So, all right. So you got something out of it. Really? They got something. What is a habit, Catherine, that you guys, well, first let me ask you, are you, you said you're working, are you still a graphic designer? I do some graphic design.

That's not my trade, I would say, but I do still have the programs and I still help people out with graphic design and things like that. It's mostly recreational. But I'm now, like this year, I've kind of pivoted from doing like entrepreneurial things into more of this. this is the first time that I've ever done this because I started working when I was like 14 doing different jobs. But this is my first time like supporting my husband and his things and really helping us. You know, we've done furniture. And so we still are working on home by Sean and Catherine Lowe, which has my name on it, more fluff, which is a kind of an offshoot from that. So it's been more of a, not assistance, but like a creative arm of the endeavors that he does the

business side of. So we really do work together too, which is fun. But it's been more of like a domestic year, which is so bizarre for me because I am not good at housekeeping. I am not organized whatsoever. I'm like, who put me in this job? This is terrible. I'm not good at this. But I'm trying to do different facets of things. I'm learning different things. What I'm good at, what I'm not good at. It's all fun. All right. I have to ask a million dollar question, if you will. Yeah. If your kids wanted to go on the bachelor or bachelorette when they're adults, how would you react to that? I would say it's fine. My husband says differently, but I'm like, if you set, I mean, obviously we all went on for different reasons, but,

and there's not that many success stories, but it's fine. And if you carry yourself well, I think it's totally fine. Before I went on the show, I actually asked someone that I trusted in my industry, because I was a graphic designer at Amazon, and I really did want to propel my career in that direction, I called him and I said, what do you think this would do? Because I am nervous. I'm just going to look at it from all different angles, see if this is something that I do want to do, because I did want to take it seriously, because it does affect your reputation professionally and personally. And he said, don't do it. And, um, really? Because it is something that could go wrong, right?

If you do something consistently where you don't show who you really are, or you take direction that isn't really something that you would do naturally and you aren't genuinely yourself, that could hurt you. And then people could peg you as something that you're not. Well, I just think that if my kids stay true to themselves, they know who they are, that they're totally fine to go on there as an experience and something fun. Why do you think Sean doesn't want that to happen? Because he just probably wants it more traditional.

I mean, there's, there's a lot of risks, you know. Yeah. Being on TV and meeting someone like that, you know, there are, it opens yourself up to public scrutiny and just that life. So I think he's just like, you know, meet someone normal. But I don't know. There's so many people that meet from reality TV, whether it's The Bachelor or not. So I think that might be the normal way. Thank you for saying that, Catherine.

I still have hope now. I still have hope you hear that, Susan, people may. Okay, well, here's one of my next questions for you because you were talking about your children. What do you think people should know about their spouse or partner before having children? Oh, gosh. Well, you know, I think, I honestly think that having a pet

really does show what type of parent they're going to be. Really? Yeah, I do because it is caring for someone that's an extension of yourself. someone that you have to really think about, that you have to be responsible for. And so how they treat animals does, I think, show what they're going to be like to someone that they love, right? A baby.

Sean Lowe had two dogs when I met him, and he really showed those qualities of being a leader, but fun and playful. He'll get down the ground and takes such good care of those dogs. So I would say that is a good, good, way to see if that someone is a good person for you to have a big one. That's a good one. I have to tell you, that is so interesting because what I tell people is exactly the same thing, but it's not about pets. I say to women, look at how he treats his mother. That's what I say.

I've never heard about pets before, but I think that's, I think that's actually valid as well. That's kind of interesting. I'm going to hold on to that one. Absolutely. Have, Do you have any habits you or Sean that you both had to unlearn since getting married? I am known. I would say that this is a creative thing. I'm just going to say that because I'm marketing my downfalls. But I'm messy. I'm very messy.

I'm the girl that has to try on a ton of different outfits and I just throw them all over the place. You don't hang them back up? I do not hang them back up. I don't at all. Let me just tell you, don't ever go to Susan's, Catherine, ever. I'd be right behind you. I know, yeah, you're very clean. You're very tidy.

But it's, that is a huge. That's been like a bugaboo on my husband's list. I've tried really hard. It's hard though. You have, I mean, I'm very grateful. This is a blessing, but people send me things, right? There's a ton of boxes that come in. And I am like, okay, well, if I get new stuff, I have to purge.

But I never get to the purging part because I'm trying on new things. And I'm like, oh, this is cool. And so anyways, mine is messiness 100%. I'm still working on it. It will be a lifelong struggle of mine. That's, I will sick that. And what about showing? I'm trying to do that.

I'm trying to change that habit because it is not good. He was not affectionate when we started. He, oh, I'm surprised. Yeah, he wasn't. And so I was just like, I just want to hold your hand. And it turned into him really going out of his way. Because, you know, he didn't, he didn't date a ton.

before we met. He had longtime partners, but years before. And so I think he was just kind of turned off to that affection part. And so I was like, can I, I just really would like hold your hand and be close and like that part. So I think he ended up trying to learn that habit. And now he's very affectionate. So. Oh, that's surprising.

I got nervous. I would never have guessed that. He is very warm. He is very warm. but I think just the touching, the physical touch in a girlfriend in public was not something that he was used to. Yeah, my husband too, but I wouldn't have thought that about a lot of something. So what's on the docket for you guys for this year?

Obviously, you're busy with business. What are your big plans for the year? Yeah, I would say my personal goals are like to create more systems. And I think I just started reading Atomic Habits by James Clear. Because I really do want to get on a track where I'm successful. in tons of different ways. And I kind of feel like I have a clean slate. Last year was probably my hardest year in recent memory.

And so I'm... Why so? Well, my dad passed away. And then, you know, the floods that happened in Texas. Well, I was very close to one of the little girls who passed. And so our community has really felt a huge loss. Yeah, my kids went to school with one of the parents that lost their daughter. Yeah, the tentacles are deep.

with that tragedy. And so we've just, it's been a lot of mourning. It's been a lot of like detachment from certain organizations and friends. And like not, not anything negative. Just it's just been very much like a clean slate this year. And so I'm really excited for re-learning how to create successful, like me as a woman now. My kids are kind of taking care of. We don't have a nanny.

So like, but that's really important to me is to be really engaged with my kids. But this year seems super open. And so I just really want to get it right. I want to start systems that work for me, work for our family so that I don't let these really magical years of childhood, like, go away fast. Because they do go fast. Yeah. So I want to take advantage of these times and really be intentional on what this year looks like. So that's a huge one for me, just starting fresh and refocusing.

And then business endeavors and, yeah, I mean, I've been loving this chapter of our child, of our family. We just have so much fun together. We're all best friends. We really do enjoy each other's company. So just really relishing in that and being present in that. You have a great head on your shoulder. I just love everything you're saying.

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Follow Sacred Lessons with Mike DeLaurocha and start listening on the free IHeart Radio app today. New Year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt. And I'm Joel. We are from the How to Money podcast. And every week, we help you to spend smarter, save more, and make sense of what's going on out there. If you want 2026 to be the year you finally feel in control of your mom, money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help you make it happen.

Listen to How to Money on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, this is Dr. Jesse Mills, director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health and host of the mailroom podcast. Each January guys everywhere make the same resolutions. Get stronger, work harder, fix, what's broken? But what if the real work isn't physical at all? To kick off the new year, I sat down with Dr. Steve Polter, a psychologist with over 30

years experience helping men unpack shame, anxiety, and emotional pain they were never taught the name. In a powerful two-part conversation, we discuss why men aren't emotionally bulletproof, why shame hides in plain sight, and how real strength comes from listening to yourself and to others. Guys who are toxic, they're immature, or they've got something they just haven't resolved. Once that gets resolved, then there comes empathy and compassion. If you want this to be the year, you stop powering through pain and start underwent. understanding what's underneath, listen to the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows.

This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we've got some incredible guests like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she? She is not with a thing. Okay, great, great, great way to start. So this is a great beginning and hopefully you'll be able to, I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seifred.

Life is so short. You feel something like that. You have that fire in you for this experience. It's not for a guy. It's for the experience of being in love. And like, it's bigger than a guy. Elizabeth Olson. I love swimming naked so much.

And I know you love taking pictures of yourself naked. Yes. I love to be naked. I just want to be in my brown underwear all the time. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me. Are you a boy or girl? Oh, my God.

That's so funny. I know. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butcher it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused. Yeah, but your. Butching it up is basically like an angry woman. It's like Doris Day. Right?

No, I turn it to be Arthur. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm fascinated that you guys both have thriving entrepreneurial minds and business. And you have three kids. And I have three kids. And I know what it's like when they're in school and the activities. How the hell do you manage?

All of that without missing a beat. I mean, it's one thing to say we're all really close and we love spending time together. And it's a whole other thing to say we're doing that. Oh, and oh, by the way, dad and I have full-time jobs that take up, you know, a lot of our day. Well, I honestly, right now I've, because all three of them are at the same school, I've taken, like, I've two chair positions in the PTA. I'm also like a room mom, which is a huge commitment. And because my husband is supportive of how much time I spend at the school, because I really love these kids. I love not only obviously my children, but like the kids that go to school with them and who they see all the time and their teachers.

I was over there today just in the art room. But I think it's, I wake up, today I woke up before five, which was abnormal. But I usually wake up at 5.30. and I try to figure out how to maximize the different things that I want to do. I do Bible study. I work out a little bit. I need to get better at that. But really, it's just taking inventory of what's important to you and focusing on that.

I'm not a master at all. Again, like I'm saying, I'm trying to relearn how I'm going to do this year. But, you know, Sean has an office upstairs. I work downstairs and we just bounce ideas off of each other all the time. And it's really fun. But I would say I'm really focusing on time blocking this year because if it is not on my calendar, it does not get done. And like I don't want to be that type of person that's like every minute is mapped out.

But I have to have a manager of my life and it's me. And I'm not good at it. You and your calendar. My planner is going to be my manager. Exactly. Wow. Can you tease us on anything? I think she already is.

Well, I mean, we are going on the cruise. We're doing the Bachelor cruise. We'll be there. We'll be there. That's so amazing. I'm really excited. People keep asking me about that. So that'll be in November.

Who will keep the children? I think they're coming. Oh, cool. And so my in-laws are going to come and we're best friends with Sean's parents. And so we're all going to come together. and experience a little, like, family vacation. And then Sean and I get to be with everybody on the cruise. So, yeah.

I mean, I don't know. That's it. It's really not that interesting over here. I'm just a suburban housewife. That's how I feel right now. How about your parents that they're still, they're not in Texas? My mom is in Seattle. My dad passed away last year.

He was in Mexico. My younger sisters in France and my older sisters in Mexico. So we're all over the world. I think we're going to do a reunion this year, which will be really nice because I really do miss them. Do you speak other languages, Catherine? I can understand Spanish. I'm better at listening than I am speaking. I can get away with conversational.

I started learning French because my whole – I was just thinking about this today, which is funny. My younger sister married a British guy in France, and their daughters speak French. and they speak French all the time. And so I was trying to learn French through Babel to kind of like have a continuation of that. And I went to France, I think it was two years ago, to be with my sister. And that's a hard language.

That one's super hard language. I was just going to tell you, I'm finding it very difficult. I'm getting nowhere. Are you learning it? I was trying. Oh, my, I know. I'm like, I didn't get very far, but I've tried. And then you're talking to Mol.

multi-language over here. No, I'm not multi-language, but French and Spanish are very similar languages. If you read it, if you read it. But when you hear it, it's harder because like it's just, they meld it together. Every, every letter in Spanish is pronounced and not, and everything in French. The French drop the letters, the last letter. They roll one word into the other word. It's like, whoa. Yes. And when I'm trying to speak it, I say each word and they laugh at me. We're on the same about that, Susan. Como sa va.

Oh, that's great. Well, we, you are a fascinating person. We've got to ask you, Catherine, do you have any questions for us? Because I could go on, I could be asking you questions all day long. You know, I do have a question, actually. I have wanted, like, I just think it's so interesting to look at your life and wonder if you weren't the career that you ended up being, what would you be? Well, for me, I had several careers.

I was, same answer. I was a teacher. I was a newspaper writer. But honestly, I can't answer what career, but I can tell you, I so wish that I had lived in another country and raised my kids for a period of time with my husband in another country. I think that learning different languages and culture is so important. And we never, when I first got married, we lived in Scotland. My husband was an officer in the Navy, but I was a child when I got married. But I would have loved to have lived in Spain or Portugal or France or something. So that,

you know, it's not too late to go do it. But that would be my thing just to give my kids that experience. Yeah, I like that. That's a good one. And I've done so many different careers. I couldn't pick one amongst the other, but I like going abroad as well. I would like to spend a little more time when I go instead of a two-weeker, you know, maybe stay six weeks in different countries. I like that. I like that. What advice do you have for my chapter of life and what to look ahead to? keep your head on straight, focus on your family, which it sounds like you are doing. I think you're doing everything right. And I love that you're still career-oriented and you want to take off the book that you're

reading. I'm very curious of what it is it's telling you. It's really to create not just focusing on the goal that you want because after, you know, I ran a half marathon last year. And right after I was, I did the marathon. I stopped running. And so more of like creating systems to have it be a lifestyle change based on whatever you're thinking, like what you want in your life to create a system rather than just have

a goal because that kind of has an end date or something like that. So that's that's kind of what it's saying to create like a sustainable lifestyle change in whatever you want for your life. Because it doesn't sound like you need a lifestyle change by any means. you have a lot of lifestyle going on. We all need reminders. I think, Catherine, my advice to you would be, which is going to sound, you know, hokey,

but you, again, is having, having, I mean, it sounds so weird, but you and Sean truly are one of my favorites of all the couples. And in that vein, never, it's so easy, and I say this from personal experience, it's so easy to lose yourself in your career. It's so easy to lose yourself in your children and their activities. It's, don't ever forget the relationship you and Sean have and really put emphasis on that because if you guys have that really strong bond, that is going to ripple.

That ripple effect will be felt by your children and that will make them grow stronger. And so keep those things important to you and you'll be giving a gift that you didn't even know you were giving. I love that. And do you realize how much you are admired in the bachelor world? Like you guys are success. Sure, sure success. And still happy after all these years and three beautiful children. Yeah, and you haven't aged at all.

And your hair, one of my things this year, one of these things this year was me not worrying about my hair because I have terrible hair. And this is just torture. I'm sitting here looking at your gorgeous head of hair. And I'm like, damn it, he's got a fabulous husband, three fabulous kids. a career and she's got a gorgeous head of air. It's so sweet. We always do that, don't we?

Was it hard for you to move to Texas? It was. It was a very big change. You know, Seattle and Dallas could not be more. Night and day. You are so right. Like 180. I'm like, what am I doing here?

I do not have any identity. Yeah. Austin is the Seattle of Texas. That's right. I've met a lot of cool people in this neighborhood that are from Austin. that I connect with very much. And I also, there's a lot of international people in our community. And so I've really, like, interestingly been connected with them.

But it's been really a nice place to raise my family. I really enjoy, especially our community where we can walk to school, walk to activities. I think there's like five kids on our block that are just in my oldest son's grade. I know, friends. Listen, when we finish it, I've got to ask you, because I have friends in University Park, we're going to play that game. Yeah, I love to. Yeah. It's been, I mean, it's a really magical little, it's kind of like Pleasantville in the S.C. But I really do like, the people are super kind in Texas.

They, I've really been blessed to get to know people just like very kind and that I've been so jaded. I've lived here for probably now 13 years. I went somewhere else. a couple months ago and I was like, what? Nobody even saying hi to me or I opened a door for a man and he didn't even acknowledge me. I was, I was like, wow, I'm really spoiled here. So it's the truth. I'm okay with that.

I'm okay with being spoiled here now. Living there for nine years and I'd go back to Philly and they sound rude. We sound rude up here. I mean, everybody's so kind in Texas. And I'm originally from Massachusetts, Catherine. and I've lived in Texas many years. And it's the same thing. When I go back to Massachusetts, people are like, why are you talking to me?

I don't know you. Why is smiling? But I do. I love the East Coast vibe. I love it. I've always really appreciated it. Because that hippie in you. That's why.

I just like directness. I think it's really, I love people who are direct. So you love me, right? I do. I do. No question. So let me ask you. The new season, The Bachelorette with Taylor Frankie, are you going to tune in?

They are so smart. They just keep doing this. I have, like, I don't underestimate The Bachelor, like the people that are in charge. This is a good one. I mean, whether you love her or not, this is something you're going to want to watch. So I think the people are going to tune in. They always know how to refresh. It's insane what they do.

They're genius. Yeah. I'm ready for the other. I think her season is going to be entertaining. Yes, yes. Yes. Yeah. Oh, my goodness.

We're so enjoying today. And that is it for today's episode. Believe it or not. I could talk to you guys for a long time. I think I could talk to you all day long. Well, we have really enjoyed having you, Catherine. And thank you to all of our listeners as well. Be sure to subscribe.

We have new episodes dropping every week with more. more of your Bachelor nation favorites. And listen to The Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the Iheart radio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. So we'll see you next time. And thank you so much for being here. Thanks, guys. Take care.

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