Bachelor Happy Hour - Charity & Rachel Takeover Happy Hour & All Things Grandparenting! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are back answering your write-ins, and these are all about grandparenting. We kick things off with the big Bachelor Happy Hour news: Charity & Rachel are taking over! We're chatting all about what we're most excited for and so much more. Next, we get to the question of the day: What are the best and toughest parts of being a grandparent? Then, we answer your questions! Where is the line between overparenting your grandkids vs. sharing your wisdom? Can you be a fulfilling grandparent while also being long distance? Grandparenting is a gift that Kathy and Susan are here to help you navigate! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to The Secret World of Roll Dahl on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us today. We're so excited to be back. How are you doing, my dear friend, Susan? I'm doing great. I'm back into the cold weather. Actually, it's been like 50s, not bad, but tonight it's dropping 20 degrees. We might get some flurries, some rain. Oh, God. Well, can I just tell you, I found a way to feel like I was in the hot sun. I used some medication. on my face that burn my face. Now I'm peeling. It's not quite like being at the beach,

but you know, the results the same. Kathy, between your hair and your face. I mean, it's 2026. This is a new season. I know. I got things to say about it too. Let me just say, 2026, I got things. But I am excited for this new year. I really am. Me too. I love being in it. Let's see what happens. So today we will be answering more of our fan questions. But first, there is some very big news that came out this week and we just have to talk about it. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so Joe and Serena have officially parted ways. They are no longer the hosts of Bachelor Happy Hour and Charity and Rachel, two of my favorites,

have taken over. It's like a whole new beginning. What do you think about it? First of all, Joe and Serena, like how many podcasts did we do with them? I love them. They're like family. So do you remember the first time? And Serena, I've never let her forget it.

Every time we see each other, we now joke about it. Do you remember the first time we were on their podcast? And Serena had said something about me from Golden. You know, I don't really. And you called her on it? Oh, I did. She goes, I never said it. And I said, oh, yeah, you did.

And I said, but she goes, but I, and she was stuttering. She goes, I really like you. I really like you. They are wonderful people, but, you know, listening to their last podcast, it was, you know, they were talking, when they started, they weren't married. And then they were married. They weren't, they were legally married. I guess they had a justice to the peace wedding, but they were talking about how much their

life had changed in the, whatever it was, two and a half years they had done the podcast. and how many things had changed. They've been a part of Bachelor forever. Forever. And I love that they talked about, you know, how they met and how the best part for me, though, you know when people ask us, Susan, what is your favorite interview? And we go, uh, because they did the same thing. Like, how do you choose one?

And I love that they, that they, you know, mention that. You know, what's your favorite? I don't know. I wonder what they're going to be doing. doing. I'm sure we will see them again. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think, I think, who knows, I think that they're not done with podcasting. I think they're not done working together. They commented on how well they work together. So I think that's really exciting. And remember them saying it's an adjustment like living together, working together, all in the same

place. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. But let's talk charity. Charity and Rachel. So I know charity better than I know Rachel, but I love them both. I think they're going to be great. Here's what struck me. And then I'm curious what you think. When they started talking, they were both leads. And so they were talking about what happened on their show. And I'm like, I don't know what that feels like. Well, you kind of get lost for a few minutes because we weren't there, but they were so giddy and excited. I'm so excited for them. It was like two girls just, But I mean, I got to admit, listening to them talk about the lead being the leads in their season and, you know, the one-on-one dates and the group dates that went too long. I'm like, I want that.

I want that. So I am very excited. I love their first podcast. Yes, yes. First of all, we got some tea on charity's wedding. Yes. And the seven outfits that she's going to have to wear. And she's going to look fabulous in every one of them.

Right now. And her 30th birthday. celebration in Las Vegas. That was a hoot. And why weren't we invited? I'm calling her. Wait, can I just say? When she's talking about, you know, the big, and of course I know how old she is, right?

But she's saying, you know, this is the big one. And it's like it's my, she literally said, I believe, I have to go back and check my golden birthday. And I literally, I was out walking. I had my headset on. And I'm listening to her podcast and by golden birthday. the hell you are. Wait, do you remember turning 30, though?

I mean, seriously, that was a big day. I don't. I remember turning 40. I don't remember turning 30. Oh, I remember 30. And I know what she's saying. And she talked a lot about Frankie Taylor. They're so excited about all this.

So I will say, you know, one of the things I'm most excited about for their podcast? First of all, they're fresh and they're new and they're excited. And they're going to have great ideas and thoughts. But I think they're going to bring an incredible perspective. to the podcast. Why? Because they were leads and they are going to be able to talk in their minds about what's going on with Taylor and how she's doing with the situation she finds herself in. And I think that's going to be fascinating listening. And the way they were talking, they were talking is if there's going to be some roller coaster rides. I mean, she, Taylor just steps out and does her thing. She is

who she is, she owns it. Yeah. And I don't know. I think. Very excited. We're excited about it. I'm excited. I think that it is an incredible opportunity for them to start on such a high note with Taylor.

And by the way, can I just say, most people say Taylor Frankie Paul. I'm going to just start calling her Taylor instead of Taylor. I call her Frankie Taylor half the time. So we're going to simplify this from now on. We are referring to her as Taylor. Or you can call her Taylor, I'll call her Frankie. Oh, that'll confuse people. But I really do think that Rachel and I think they couldn't have chosen a better

to some to take over Bachelor Happy Hour. I think they're going to do a great job. I'm so excited that they're joining the podcast family. And of course, we are wishing so much success. They don't need wishes. They're going to be great. They're going to nail this. But I really do think that the fact.

that they were both leads is really going to bring a whole new perspective to it. Because they both know what's happening. They knew how it worked. So you know what's going to happen? You and I are going to be leads so we can change our perspective. I'll tell you what. Do you ever feel like we're selling a lot of soap? No, but I'm excited for the girls.

Congratulations. If you're listening, we cannot wait to talk to you about it. Congrats. Yeah, really. You did a great job. All right, Kath. should we get into today's episode? Wait, I have to tell you, today's episode, I'm so excited about it because we're going

to be talking about grandchildren, grandparenting. And I have to tell you, it's perfect timing because I just had Linley, my seven-year-old granddaughter. I had her, because school hasn't gone back to session yet for a couple of reasons. And parents have to work, you know, that whole thing. And so I had my granddaughter spending the night with me and was here like, two and a half days. And I have to tell you, I have forgotten what it's like. We did, I mean, we hunted for turtles. I taught her, I'm teaching out of crochet. I'm, uh, we went to the bookstore and I

got, I'm trying to get her to read because everyone who knows me knows I love books. So we sat there reading. We baked brownies. We, I mean, it's like nonstop entertainment. I love it so much. but I have to tell you she went home last night and my son texted me Kyle who you know and his wife Candy texted me and they always do highs and lows every night at the dinner table the high for the day each person says they're high for the day and they're low for the day and they both text me and said Lindley's high for the day was spending getting to spend a few days with Kiki which is my grandmother name spending a few days with Kiki that I'm so fun. funny and I'm so much fun and she had a best time. And of course, that just made my, it made it. I just, I loved her little card trick. I think he put it out. I know you put it out on Instagram.

She was so cute. She wouldn't teach it to me either. She said, this is the card. It was a sterile. I couldn't believe it. She wants to be a magician. That's today. You know, next week, she wants to be a gymnast. She's just, it is so fun. Grandparent is so different from children. And I'm just going to tell you one thing I did that I would never have let my children do. I'm embarrassed to admit it. I let her have pizza for dinner with and she dips it in ranch dressing. Oh, God, a lot of the younger generation is that. They get that from our kids.

And then the brownies we made, she had those for dessert. And then guess what she had for lunch the next day? What? More pizza dipped in ranch. So what's wrong with that? You never let your kids have pizza for dinner? Friday night. And the next day for lunch, no, no. Why? Because fruits, vegetables, balance meals, you know. Oh, for God's sake, Kathy. I'm just saying baseball season and your kids are athletes.

Oh, no, no, no, no, we did that too. We'd have hot dogs at the dugout. No, we did that too. Anyway. All right. So today, we are back and we're going to answer more of our fan questions. And we are excited to check in with you guys and dish out some advice. First, I'm going to start us off with a question of the day. Kath, what are your favorite and least favorite parts of being a grandparent? Okay. The favorite part is like I was just talking about, spending time with them. I also have a two and a half year old granddaughter and then three grandsons. You know, it's watching them, going to the sporting events, going to their dance recitals, baking with them, cooking with them,

spoiling them because, you know what, it's not my problem when they go home. Oh, wait. That is my, that is my, I don't want to see my favorite part, but I love the least favorite. Honestly, the least favorite is I have to change my schedule when they come to stay with me.

I can't go, for example, I couldn't go out and leave Linley and go walk my five miles, so I couldn't do it that, you know, two days. I missed, which, It was hard for me. That's me being selfish. But I love the fact that my kids get a chance to spend a little time, you know, without having to make dinner and get kids up in the morning. But I also love that, you know, they're not my problem to discipline. My problem is to love them, hand-down culture, tradition, and just have fun with them. My little two-and-a-half-year-old granddaughter, I just love watching her grow. and watching her learn. And she speaks Spanish and English. She's in an immersion program.

I love watching her be her, you know. I didn't have time as a parent. What about you? I have them in all stages. So Julian is the oldest one. And I cannot believe he's 15 and a half in May. I got one who's 18 in January. I know.

Oh my God. Then I have Mason, who is the athlete, and we go to his games. You know, Bella, the team. teenage granddaughter going through hormones, just got a period. Her mother's not real pleased with her. She's moody. Being a grandparent, I hear my daughter complain, but when you're looking at it, you know, it's like, well, Britt, this is, what do you think you did? But my favorite part of the two four-year-olds, okay? Once my son's, one's my daughter. I took my son's Stella with me to Virginia to see my daughter. and Toby on the way home, Stella's sharp.

On the way home, she says, Mimi, how come Toby only drink diet soda and eat Oreos? I was like, oh, oh. I'm sorry, your granddaughter drinks diet soda. Brittany is a diet soda. Well, I came undone. The thing I don't like, my least favorite part is, watching how they're raising the kids, their discipline and what they do. Because I am totally different in my values and my views as some of your kids do theirs. Like that is the struggle.

I will say, I, you are, I hadn't thought of that. You are absolutely right when Kyle got divorced. So as all of you may remember, Susan officiated Kyle's second marriage and they are very happily married and I inherited three wonderful grandsons, uh, in addition to my two granddaughters. So now I have five. But I was worried. Um, it's so interesting that you say that. I was worried that my son, you know, the guilt, all that of getting divorced and, and kids switching homes and all that, that he would be a permissive father that anything Lindley wanted she'd get. And I really was worried. Oh my heavens. Lindley is. the most well-behaved.

She's creative, beyond belief. She's polite. She carries her dishes to the sink. She doesn't interrupt. She's seven. And she is a graceful young lady. And that is due to Candy and Kyle making her toe the rope. And you're exactly right.

Like it doesn't happen. I think once our kids became parents, they're like, oh, shit. This is what it's like to be a parent. It doesn't just happen. It doesn't just happen. Please and thank you and making your bed and cleaning your room. You got to teach them. You have to.

And guess what? Our children are now realizing what you and I learned, which is parenting is hard work. And there. And the other. With a book of instructions. And I will say, I've said this many times to my kids. You, you are not your children's friends. Like my kids were, don't you remember when your kids were.

we're young. I have this all the time. My kids would come home and go, Mom, I can't believe you won't let us do that because Joey's mother. And I looked at them and would always say, I said that. First of all, yeah, exactly. First of all, I would say, I don't care what Joey's mother does. And secondly, I'm not here to be your friend. I'm here to raise you to be the best adult you can be. So I'm really sorry that you can't go toilet paper the neighbor's house, but we're not doing that. Mine was a big thing on curfew. Everybody was allowed out later than I was. Oh, yeah.

Mom, why? Why? My father said nothing good happens after 11 at night. Oh, I must have known your father because I said nothing good happens after nine. Well, I had to be home at nine, but that was younger. As I got older even, they still have rules. Well, I, you know, I think it's going to. to be interesting. You know, we're going to get into some questions here. But I think it's really

going to be interesting to see how our children, well, your daughter, I'm going to have to talk to Brittany. Brittany, my PSA for you today is get that kid off diet soda, not good for children, not good for anyone, but definitely not for children. And as you said, we are coming back here and answering some of the questions. And we're really excited that you guys are here with us. And we're here to dish out some more advice. New year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt, and I'm Joel. We are from the How to Money podcast, and every week we help you to spend smarter, save more, and make sense of what's going on out there. If you want 2026 to be the year you finally feel in control of your money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help you make

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All right. Here we go. I'll take first one. Mary Ann writes, hi Kathy and Susan. I'm a big fan and look forward to your episodes each week. I know you are both grandparents and would love your thoughts on what the role of a grandparent means to you. I recently had a discussion with my daughter about. my role as a grandparent. I am 66 years old. I have two teenage grandchildren and two under the age of eight. My daughter told me that grandparents should not share opinions, experiences, or life lessons with the grandchildren. She believes that it's the parent's role and that grandparents should just quote, spend time and have fun, unquote, with their grandchildren. I was hurt by this and don't agree, but will respect her wishes. But I also don't want to be silenced. I love to share my life experiences when relevant. With my grandchildren, we have lots of fun, and I feel like I have so much more to offer them. Grandparents have knowledge, wisdom, life experiences, and can be great mentors as well.

I want to be more than just a quote-unquote fun grandparent. What happened to teaching our children to respect, admire, and perhaps learn from the senior generation? What are your thoughts? Also, keep living your best lives, ladies. You rock. Well, thank you. We are. We are rocking. What do you say to her, Susan? Merrim, I agree whole 150,000 percent, even though because the generations are so different by the time we have grandchildren, they love our stories. I mean, they're not as crazy as their parents would be. But why would your daughter try to silence you?

Unless you were telling them something negative or scary that might haunt them. but of course you wouldn't do that. I like being the fun. Right. I have a couple of thoughts on it. I like you, Mariam, I do tell my grandchildren's stories

about me as a child and stories about their parents, you know, their parents when they were children. Here's what I would encourage you. My thought is, I agree with Susan, the world's coming to it.

Did you feel the building shape? You've been doing that a lot lately. We're agreeing. I do agree that we have lots of wisdom. I agree with you as well. We have a lot of life experiences and we want to be the fun grandparent, but we also want to share our life experiences. I do think that it is not okay if our children tell us that they don't want us to discipline their children.

I think that's okay. But even that, I must say, Susan, I draw the line. I kind of say my house, my rules. Now, by that, I'm not going to discipline my granddaughter and say, I just said you, she had ranch and pizza. I'm ranch dressing. I would never have let my kids do that. And they would have had, and if I did, because it's not healthy. But I would have, I would have let them have, if I would have let them do it occasionally

if they had vegetables, fruits and vegetables. on a side serving with a pizza. But of course, that defeats the point of having pizza night. So we did pizza nights at our house. That kind of thing I will do. I am not going to discipline my grandchildren, my grandchildren on the way they speak, unless they're rude to me. I'm not going to give them life lessons.

Well, let God remind them if they didn't say thank you. So what do you say? Oh, thank you. Yes, I do that as well. But for example, do you think maybe her kids are divorced? I mean, my, I don't talk about my son's ex-wife with my granddaughter. And when my granddaughter brings her up, I say things like, oh, that's nice. That's nice. Yeah. You know, I'm sure she's busy. You know, whatever. I try to keep it very on the up and up. But I think maybe your daughter, Marion, is afraid that you are teaching her some value. In other words,

maybe they don't go to church and you want to take her to church. You can't do that if the parents don't want her reading the Bible. That's a great example to me. If her parents, the kids' parents don't want the kids reading the Bible or then you can't take them or you can't take them to temple. You can't take them to church. You can't do those things for them. You can't take your children, grandchildren, to a rally, a political, rally. Those are choices that the parent gets to make. And when her daughter says life lessons,

you learn from life lessons when somebody else's life lesson. Why wouldn't her want her to share? Like, I know my grandkids can teach me things. Okay. But Susan, what if your, what if your granddaughter, your grand, let's say your teenage grant daughter, you were over there babysitting, and she brought home, I'm making this up. A failing math test. You're babysitting. They're out of town. She brought home a failing math test.

Are you going to sit down and make her correct the answers? I'm going to ask her why she failed it? What's going on? No. See, that's not your business, not your thing. That's it to me. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I think that's what Mariam is getting at here,

Marianne's daughter. So I think, Maryam, my advice to you is I agree with you. we do have lots of life lessons and some of the fun stories and all those things I think are passing along heritage traditions are fabulous. But I think the two. Opinions, she says too. Yeah, your opinion on. Because our opinion and our kids' opinion might be too different. Yeah, you don't exactly. You don't get to if you are not a current support of our president and your child is, you don't get to tell your grandchildren what you think. It's those kinds of things that might be against her daughters.

So I would have the conversation. As she says, I love to share my life experience when relevant. What is wrong with that? Oh, guys, you think this is nuts. But when I was a little girl and my daddy came home and got me this or whatever, what you felt like there's nothing wrong with that, I don't think. Okay. How about this one?

That's lovely. That's very Norman Rockwellish. Let me give you another. Let me give you another one. This did not happen to me, but it's a great story. You know, Linley, when I was 16, I got caught stealing a car and I had to go. Oh, my God. It didn't.

That's a life lesson. Why would you tell someone? I don't know. But I'm saying we are assuming that all. All life lessons are nice stories. And I went to the store and I gave the woman behind me $10 for her groceries. No, maybe she had an issue with drugs. Maybe she stole cars.

Maybe I'm saying you have to ask you. You don't know who the person is. And so my advice, Maryam, is ask your daughter what experiences you can share with her with your grandchildren. That's what I would do. That's a lot. You wouldn't, Susan? No, I don't think I would. And that's why your granddaughter's drinking Diet Coke.

She's four and I don't live with her. But she would not do that in my house. Let me tell you. But you know what? I learned from my grandkids. They help me with the cell phone. Things I didn't even know existed on my phone. They're like Mimi, you have a 17.

How do I do it, guys? And they do it for you. And I go, no, no, no. Teach me me. Slow down. You just do this, this, this. Can I tell you by two and a half? year old granddaughter. So I don't, again, my thing, oh, that's another example, by the way.

If that is another great example, if you think that screen time is fine, not a problem. And you let your, and but your daughter. There's a certain time of day they're allowed. No, no, no. That's her rule, right? That's your daughter's rule. If, if my son or my daughter has a rule that the kids don't have screen time, Kyle's daughter is not allowed, and I support it, by the way, is not allowed when she's staying with them.

She is not allowed any time on the iPad, any of it. I wholly support that. Kids get enough of it at school. Now, let's say Linley was a mask. A lot of kids here. Yes, they learn on iPads. A lot of. They're learning something, but it's not like a movie or a thing.

Oh, no, no, no. I say they have enough time on doing lessons and things. they have enough screen time at school. But let's just say, Susan, that Lindley was at my house. And, you know, I'd really like to be reading a book or needle pointing. And so I say, Lily, just pick up your iPad. And here's my iPad. That is wrong.

That is me putting my value system. That's a great example. Putting my values ahead of what my son's values are. So that's, I think, what she's getting at. So again, Mariam, I would encourage you to find. out exactly what it is she doesn't want you to share because you're absolutely right. We do have lots of great stories and heritage to pass long and traditions to our kids. That folklore that we lose, right, after a few generations.

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Next is Chris. Hi, Kathy and Susan. First, let me say how much I enjoy listening to your podcast. I have a question regarding grandchildren. Our daughter is pregnant with our first granddaughter. She's due in March, and we are beyond excited. The problem is we live in Las Vegas and there in Tulsa, Oklahoma. None of my grandparents lived locally to me growing up,

and neither were my daughter's grandparents. And we all felt like we missed out. My husband and I have always, want it to be those grandparents who live close so the grandkids could come over any time within reason and we could be involved in their lives we are 61 and 56 and have jobs we also love living in Vegas Tulsa from what we've seen isn't exactly where we see ourselves enjoying living and we don't know anyone other than our daughter and son-in-law and his family, but it isn't, but isn't it ultimately about family?

It shouldn't matter where you live as long as you're close to them, right? Or is it okay to be long distance slash FaceTime grandparents? I know we'll be sad and feel like we're missing out, but we also have to have a life outside of just the grandkids. There's no chance of them leaving Tulsa. and I don't blame them. It's a great place to raise a family. I respect you both in the wisdom you bring to the show

and would love any advice or experiences you could share. Happy 2006. And we wish you the same, Chris. Happy 2026. And whoa, I get it. I totally get this. There's a way to still be in their lives. Yes, you will have to result to FaceTime,

but you've got to be around in the beginning. and visit enough so that they're comfortable and knowing who you are. Because kids get that strange thing when you're not really around. Christopher was his pet peeve about Stella knowing her, me, and we're very close because I babysat the first year of her life. Yes, but that's because you live locally. You're proving her point. Tovey, it took me time.

I would go down to Virginia a couple times a year. She comes up a couple times a year, and it took a lot of time. Dickie is down there a lot, my ex. He was very close to Toby, but she has come around. She knows her Mimi. And it does work. I think so I also, I also, Chris, lived near one set of grandparents and the other set. I did not live close to.

However, there was not FaceTime and the resources we have now to keep in contact. having said that, I was much closer to my mother's parents than I was to my dads because my mothers live locally. Having said that, you guys are working and there's not much you can do, but is it okay? Of course it's okay. Give yourself the latitude to say, look, this isn't what we thought it would be, but we're working. We have friends in Las Vegas. We have a life in Las Vegas. I think Susan's right spend. I don't blame you for not wanting to leave. I think, you know, my kids every time they talk conceptually, my daughter and her husband,

my son occasionally, they conceptually talk about living somewhere else. I don't think it's ever going to happen, but they talk about it. And I say to them, you know, like if they move back to the Northeast, I don't want to go back to the cold. I don't, you know, she doesn't want to go to Tulsa. I don't want to go back to the Northeast. I don't like the snow. And so these are choices we make as parents and grandparents.

However, I will say I am retired and of any of my kids moved. I've, and you know the Susan. You could go as often as you like. Well, it costs a lot of money to travel, but I would try to spend at least a week a month with, you know, whoever moves or if I moved, whatever. I mean, I could move away. I do think it's very important, but I do think FaceTime has changed a lot. And also, they got to prepare themselves because his family is going to be local.

And when you go to visit, there's going to be some jealousy because they're going to be very attached to his parents. And that's what they're familiar with. But it's not forever. Like I said, it takes a few years. and they'll know you because you'll obviously will love them to death and you'll face time. You know, I mean, I think it's, it, listen, it's not a question whether it's okay or not okay. Because you guys are working. It's you, you know, some of these things are out of your control. Yeah. So Chris, you can't, unless you can relocate and you're willing to, it doesn't matter whether it's

okay or not because you both are gainfully employed in Las Vegas, Nevada. I get it. And the other thing is you don't know that they'll always stay. Likely they will stay there for his family's there. But it's hard. Susan's right. You're going to have to adapt to the new idea that you're not going to see them every day. You're not going to be babysitting. And holidays, you know, you're going to go on the holidays and decide, will they come

to you on any holidays? It's not easy. Yeah. It is. And is it ultimately about family? It is ultimately about family. And guess what? You and your husband are a family too.

And you have a life. So the question you could have asked is, but isn't it ultimately about sacrifice? Because you and your husband are a family. And the answer is no. It's not ultimately about sacrifice for me. And I love my grandchildren. And maybe they want to take a trip and you could have the baby come out and stay with you. Or not if they're working.

Not if they're working. Yeah, it's tough. That's what I'm saying. It's not. They've got, they have a number of years. they're damned if they do. You got a few more years left, but congratulations on the new baby coming, on the grand baby coming.

And that baby will know you love them. Yeah. You just, you can send gifts, but talking to them, there's lots of things you can do recording books, face, you can record books with your voice. It's not ideal. You might be spending a lot of your vacation time in Tulsa, Oklahoma. or they could bring the baby to her too i would stay in Vegas the weather's better that's really and and i think you don't pay taxes in nevada do you and you certainly do in

oklahoma i'm always looking at the financial piece i don't think i'd want to move to oklahoma no matter what i'll visit well from texas let me just say living in texas Oklahoma i mean it's like the arch rivals the two schools oh you know they've loved lot of, they have a lot of bad weather in Oklahoma. They get, during the spring, they get, you know, lots of cyclone bad windstorms and rainstorms coming through their tornadoes. That's what I was looking for. Tornadoes. Lots of them. Just swallow it. Love that baby to death, be a part of its life. You're not going to face time when the baby's two months old, obviously. Yeah. I will say, I'll go visit and be there. I will say just having had, just having had my grand-d

with me. And I love when the little one comes. I will tell you, do you agree? The time goes by very quickly. My three grandsons, I mean, they never spend the night here. They're in sports and band and jazz band and four age club. I mean, they have so many activities. So I, which you're not going to like hearing Chris, I'm trying to soak up as much time as I can while they're really young because my other are two and a half. Well, she'll be three. I can't believe she'll be three in April. but you know almost three-year-old and a seven-year-old i'm trying to soak up and have them come over and spend time with them as much as i can because they get to that point where they want to be with their friends and they have activities it's hard i mean you just don't then do you let me ask you

do you talk to your your teenage grandchildren do you do you call them do they call you on the phone once in a while we text they only call you if they need something. I was going to, is that true? Okay. Mm-hmm. My son will text out of nowhere. I love you, mom.

Thanks for being my mom. I appreciate you. Which son is this? Christopher. Christopher will text you, but I'm talking about your grandchildren that are old enough to use a phone. They don't just call you, say hi. No. See, I want my grandkids to do that.

I want them. I reach out to them and text is way easier. Half the time they're punished. They don't have a phone, but. that's because I had too many diet sodas that the sugar went to the and I'll text hey it's Mimi what's up yeah yeah yeah yeah but you don't face time with the other ones do you do you face time I see them no yeah well babies I do but even Stella like if I call Brittany she'll be like FaceTime me me me face time me me face time me but that's because they

They love that. That's because they love the screen. You know, they want to. No, because they love Mimi. They want to see me. And she wants to show me what she's doing. Oh. Is that Stella?

Or a four-year-old going on five. That was Toby. Stella, definitely. So it's very funny because my, my almost three-year-old granddaughter, she can, it's crazy. What she can do when she gets my daughter's phone. She knows how to scroll. She knows. You're also frozen it where you have to wait 20 minutes to unlock it.

It's also when you're in the car and they're cranky here. Put music on. Give them the phone. So you know what I do you do that? They're nursery rhyme songs. Okay. Well, we do that. But you know what I?

Because, you know, I was an education person. We all sing. I do. We do that. We play music. I play classical music for them. Sometimes I play pop music. We'll do Taylor Swift because my seven-year-old loves that.

But you know what I do with my the young ones? I did it with Linley. And now I'm doing it with Reese, the almost three-year-old, we'll sit in the car and I'll say, I see something green. Oh, yes. And then I'll do, I'll say, look at that stop. You're going to, I can already hear you laughing. How many sides does it have and try to teach them the letters?

What sound does S make? Like, Stella. Stella. I mean, it's like, it's like we have preschool in my car when I have them. But they seem to have fun with it. I pre-school with the adults when I'm driving. You start, remember, I might have played this with you. I don't know.

You start with the letter A and you name an animal and you have to repeat each letter. By the time you're getting through the alphabet, it gets a little crazy. And people look at me like, Susan, you're really playing that game? I'm bored, people. We got three more hours. Let's go. Susan, you've forgotten. We did that the first time we went to St. Martin with Nancy when we got lost on that

dark road at night. Let's play the alphabet. Yeah, it was like, are you serious? We are lost. We know not where we are. And Sue wants to play alphabet. Great, perfect. It takes your mind off of things.

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