Bachelor Happy Hour - Charity’s 411 on Grant’s Hometowns!

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re diving into all things Hometowns with a very special guest co-host: Charity! Charity and Joe recap Monday’s infamous episode and give us all their thoughts on the final four. We kick off the episode by getting into Juliana’s Hometown: Is Grant’s energy off? Then, we dish on the rest of our Hometown visits. What does our former lead think about Dina’s family not attending Hometowns? How did they expect Grant would handle being Litia’s first partner outside of her faith? And what does Charity think about Zoe getting a Hometown without a one-on-one? We’re discussing it all! Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Okay. Let's, um, let's get into it. So we have hometowns. and the first hometown is Juliana in Newton, Massachusetts. I will say Grant is giving me like, I'm tired energy. Okay, so I was, I thought it was just like, I was like, okay, this is the first, but like first hometown episode, what is my thoughts of Grant? But like, I don't know.

Like his energy was, I'm sorry. I love Grant, but I'm like, it was giving nothing. I was like, okay, this poor man is probably exhausted. it and like rightfully so his season is going by truly so fast so i could only like i think i was on the same like recording or filming schedule as him maybe one week longer but it's just like i know at this point you were like he's he's beat tired so i saw it all over his face his mannerisms and i'm like okay is it just juliana but i think he was like that probably with everyone which was like okay every every single every single hometown i was like this guy either this guy's

really exhausted or he's just like complete checkout I hope not check out no so we go we go to a pizza place it's really like your stereotypical Italian neighborhood

bada bang bada boom you know the fucking pizza come let's make a pizza yeah um they went they they got canolies I don't like canoles personally never had well actually I've had one I don't think I'm a fan either to be honest

what's your favorite dessert Italian dessert or in general Let's do Italian dessert Is cheesecake Italian right No does it sound Italian Cheesecake couldn't be more American Cheesecake That is what a bad

Cheesecake is is America That is what we would think of Actually I said that with the most confidence ever Like is a cheesecake I don't even know if I've had an Italian dessert That's crazy Don't have one Have you ever had Taramisu

yeah it's not my favorite though okay that's fair i'm pretty i like mine mine's panacotta that's my favorite it's just like heavy cream really yeah that would literally not do that would do not wonders on my stomach truly okay yeah that's that's how serena is too okay so we go we go to her hometown we go to a family party there's like a thousand people there i literally was like this is the biggest home like i don't know maybe because i'm used to just not that many people at least when I was a lead but like I was like this is the biggest hometown I've seen in a minute there was so many people in the backyard I was like this is crazy like poor grant and Latillas I mean we'll talk about Latia's hometown yes but that also no insane that's a I'm sorry as a lead that

is a nightmare like walking in knowing that you have to make your rounds to that many people and keep in mind we're we just got through talking about how tired grant is he's probably like fuck okay okay but here you were you were a lead yeah your first hometown ever would you would you rather walk into a big party like that or more of an intimate setting with just like the parents and a brother intimate any day give me intimate it's like i rather have like substantial like conversations like one-on-one rather than like i'm just not i'm good at small talk but i don't like it's not something i want to do with like 30 plus people not at all. Like, that's so exhausting. I'm so sorry. And I feel like people, at least for me,

it's like once you have those conversations like over and over, people can kind of like pick up like either you're like not feeling it or you're just like trying to get it over with. And that's not how I want someone to like read me if that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. I prefer to be thrown. Are you the other way? Yeah. I prefer to be thrown in the lions then. I want my first one to be insane because that I'll just feel good like and then I'll feel like like I know what I'm doing after because then everything will be easier yeah um but but it doesn't always go that way I would just I don't know I just I you know I feel like talking to parents is just awkward in general like that first meaning and then like having to do it it is setting where

like you're dating other people and they know and they know you're on a show and they're like, is this even real? And you're like, I think I'm in love, but I don't know if I'm in love. It's like, what are we supposed to say here? What did you, how do you feel about this hometown in general? Okay. So I like, obviously, I think like Grant and Juliana are like compatible to a certain extent but I feel like and they're very they're very cute together so like I love them together I just feel like at least watching this episode or just like their relationship and how it's progressed up into this point like I feel like they're each other's like safe space but I don't know if it's necessarily like the good safe space if that makes sense I feel like it's like the safe

route or the safe option like I they obviously have like disclosed the lot interesting so you you think you think this is that they're like, this would be like a settle, like they're settling. I don't like using that word because it sounds so bad when you say it out loud. It does, but that's really what you're saying. That's what you're saying. I think it's like, and, you know, we still have a couple weeks. So I'm like, maybe like the depth of it will progress.

And I think that's just what I'm waiting for. Like obviously their last one-on-one date was like they, you know, Juliana shared like what she went through like as a child and growing up like things that were really impactful and it really aligned like very similarly with grant and i thought that was like okay this is really great for them because they can definitely like resonate on that together but to me i still feel like i'm like i'm waiting for like i don't know like it's just a spark you don't yeah like i don't i'm like it's like it's cute but i'm like i want to feel like okay this is like hubby i don't know i will i will say that was one thing we we always when we were watching the

show always said about you and Dotten was there was that initial spark there. And it, and it progressed as the season went on. We were like, oh, yeah, these two really love each other. Where I, I kind of agree, I feel like, I think Grant really likes Juliana and I think she really likes him. Yeah. But I think they really like each other. No, it's, it's, it's, they definitely like each other i am not like discounting that at all no but that's what i'm that's what i'm saying when you were when you were talking to doten i remember serena and i were like oh charity's like in love with this guy no literally you it was so off yeah yeah but it could also be it could also be both of their personalities too right and that's the thing yeah i'm like i don't really know like

well what we see from juliana but like i mean we've seen her in different roles like on the show already so i'm like she seems like she seems like She's someone who is, you know, bold and, like, has a personality. But I think, like, when she gets with Grant, she kind of, like, what's the word I'm looking for? Not, like, going a little bit of a shill. It's just, like, it becomes very, like, cutesy. I don't know.

I sound really bad saying this. And I'm not like, they are so cute. And I, like, they, I love them together. But I'm just like, hmm. Like, it's like very. Yeah. Something's missing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically.

Juliana talks about, like, being hurt in her past. And I'm not trying to. to discredit that at all, but I feel like every season we have someone. I need you're going to say that. You did. You were someone that's been hurt in your past. Like everyone was like, I watched her package

and I was like, yes, same story. I was like, me too, girl. Yeah. Well, everybody that goes out the Bachelor for the most part has been hurt in the past. Exactly. It's almost like it's a pre-work. You cannot get on this show without being hurt. For sure. For sure. What did you think the parents? I felt like the parents' conversation was pretty solid.

I feel like Grant knew how to talk to her father. And like they were kind of like... He did a really good job. Yeah, they were kind of on the same page. I think he like, like the Italian father really wanted... I feel like he knew like how to talk to him and he did a really good job. Yeah. It worked.

He definitely like, yeah, sat in that role like 100%. Like he was like a little like, you know, very much dad. But I think as a lead, I feel like, um, It can sway either way with like obviously the conversations with parents and some people can get really intimidated and not answer those like in depth. But I think granted like a phenomenal job. Like he was not backing out. I think he was very like transparent, especially about his feelings, which I really admire because that's obviously parents number one question coming in. It's like, have you said, I love you yet?

Like where does my daughter fall? Which I hate. I'm like, why are you asking to rank your daughter right now? Like issue number one, issue number two. But, like, it's a fair question. And from a parent standpoint, I get it. But he did really good. Yeah.

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I liked when he was showing the mom his tattoo. Okay, I literally wrote that. No, hold on. She looks like a real housewife of like New Jersey. In my notes, wait a minute. I said the lone wolf tattoo showing to the mom sent me. Like I was like, not the mom getting a glimpse of the lone wolf. I was like, period.

Yeah, that was. I thought that was funny. I actually wrote that down too. Okay. And then, yeah, Grant at the end says he's falling for her. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think he is. I mean, it seems that way. Yeah, I do too.

I think I do feel like there is, and I'll get in depth. I'll like wrap up my entire thoughts once we like talk about all of the hometowns and that way it'll make more sense. But like I think I still stand by what I said of like it just seems safe. Like it seems like, okay, like he feels. safe with her. She feels safe with him, but it's like, is it like full confirmation that this without a doubt is my person? And I feel like they might still have like a little bit of doubts with each other, but hopefully we'll see like, you know. Overnights. I mean, overnights could

change that. It was 1,000% and we know. We truly do know. Okay, movie God to Zoe in New York. Yeah. I have a soft spot for Zoe. I'm not going to lie. I like Zoe. I like Zoe. I thought I, I mean, it's a hometown, but like also a date because they're like doing like she's putting on wedding dresses.

Like the wedding dress photo shoot thing, I just thought was a little strange for me. No, me too. I literally wrote I was like, bad luck. This is not. Yeah, bad luck for sure. And it felt like, it felt like Zoe didn't. get a one-on-one date and they're like, okay, here's your one-on-one date. No, literally.

I was like, this is like a copy paste of like a previous like bachelor date that a group date would have happened or maybe even a one-on-one date in previous season. So they're like, okay, we'll use it for her hometown, which I did like that they emphasize and they focus on like what Zoe was like most comfortable with. And I did like, that was like really nice to see. You can kind of see her stepping out of her like show. but I'm like Zoe's never had a problem like stepping out of her show all season like she's been fine like girl has been standing on her own she is quite independent like she'll say what she needs

to say um but I think just like I could tell with Grant like he was definitely a little like timid with that date and I don't know why but I read I'm listen I'm a reader of body language I was like I don't know if Brand's really like messing with this date well I think I think Grant I think Grant I don't know if he chooses Zoe but I don't think he does and I think he I think why do you say that just because okay say no no I just think I don't I just don't I just don't think he's picking her I I think I just she didn't get a one on one date and I think Carolina shot herself in the foot 1,000% and it was like I'll just take Zoe I'll take Zoe over Carolina not that like this is how like that's what I'm saying he also had Alex and Serafina so I'm like he had options yeah he did yeah he did have

option maybe I don't know yeah maybe maybe I'm wrong but I will say like the wedding dress like having to put on a wedding dress I yeah that's bad luck I don't like that yeah no and I could only imagine from his standpoint to like obviously taking someone or going into someone's hometown without a one-on-one date which that was his choice like I said like obviously he sat there at the row ceremony and he had to make a like a decision which I'm still to this day trying to figure out like not in a bad way because like Zoe's great and she also deserves like you know her opportunity to like progress her relationship with grant but I'm in my head and just from what we've seen it's like okay well we had Alex or Seraphina who you also had one-on-one time with like how how come they

didn't get like chosen and that makes it's just a giant question mark in my head because going into hometown without a one-on-one date like I I was in the same position last year. I was like, oh, it could be Tanner, but like, I didn't, like, it just didn't work. And I was like, I'm not taking... It could have never been Tanner. It could have never been, but let's, let's be real. It could have never, but I was like, you know, I was trying to give everyone a chance. And, like, it didn't happen. So I was like, you're not, like, it's just not going to work. You're not coming to hometown without a one-on-one. And so, like, to see Grant handle this, like, I, I, I just don't know. I feel like there was a lot of, like, uncertainty, like, a lot

of, like, doubts. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't think you're wrong at all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Zoe's step-parents, she said she cut ties with them a year ago. She was adopted, but I have a question. Is her sister was there? Is that her real sister? Is that, do we know? I want to say her real sister. I believe so.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I think she mentioned it earlier on in the season. So the one thing that really stuck out to me during this hometown was, was when Grant was talking to the sister. Okay. And I personally think he was essentially like, yeah, like, I'm not choosing.

I'm not choosing. Oh, wait. Okay. Did I, wait, I need to know. How did you pick up on that? Because I'm like, I'm looking at my notes. And I'm like, okay. I said they were both holding back.

Yeah, the parent conversation went well. But I don't, I didn't make any notes about the sister conversation. Wait, tell me. Well, because he said he's falling for Juliana. and he looked at I think he really respects Zoe and I think he really likes Zoe and he emphasized like he told his sister I really like Zoe that's a good catch because I know so like so I and I think she read it as well where she's kind of like okay yeah I think he's just not going to choose my sister but he respects her and that's kind of that's how I read it interesting

Yeah, the sister seemed, she somewhat seemed oddly at peace after their conversation. I did get that vibe, but I don't think I, it registered to me that in a way that she, like, had a, a way of knowing that her sister was going to be fine, but it wasn't going to be with him. I don't know. That's interesting. Okay. Watch it again. Watch it again. I will have to go back online.

Not the emphasis on the really light. Okay, Grant, relax. Overall, what did you think about this hometown? I thought it was good. I mean, it was, it was good. I think it, you know, I really do like how, like, they emphasize, you know, a non-traditional family, like, format. And, like, Zoe's story really is, like, super special in my eyes. And I think she does, like, carry herself well.

And, like, her onset just as a very resilient person. So you definitely see that. But, yeah, like, I think it was definitely a little bit of, like, not tension, but just, like, we are both going into this, like, really unknown because, like, you said, it's like, they don't have a 101. They don't have, like, anything to kind of, like, come in with just singular time together apart from, like, group dates or whatever else. But their little conversations, I guess, leading up is why Grant said he, like, chose her

for hometown. So it makes sense. Like, they share similarities to some extent. But, yeah, I think it was a safe hometown again. I don't think it was, like, it didn't really like, oh, hit. me okay so yeah same i agree so you put juliana in as like safe like the relationship's like safe kind of settling maybe maybe that spark you're not seeing it yet where's Zoe she's below that but like so safe and yeah let's get her off i'm trying not to use like incorrect words but like okay

Zoe's is like a step below, but like what you said, Grant respects her. So I think to that, if you like look at safe in that sense of like, okay, I respect you, I have a lot of respect for you and I like you, but like I don't think it's going to go. Like I don't know if it's anything more than this, you know. Yeah, yeah, that's how I feel too. I would feel like, yeah, I think I would be really shocked, but I don't know what happened. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid

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So, Latia is Mormon. Mm-hmm. Do you think she should have shared that information? with Grant earlier? Because I feel like she just dropped that before hometowns. Yeah. So the thing is, it's like part of me wonders if it came up,

like maybe in like a small conversation, but it was like, let's continue this later. You know how that happens. It's like, okay, like I bring up something or you bring up something and it's like we don't have enough time

to really like dive into this, but I want to save this for like a space where we are like alone. So I do wonder if it came up, obviously I don't know but I do agree I'm like okay that is a little bit much to like drop on him but I think she they probably had like a mutual understanding of just like in her head at least like Latia like knowing okay you take faith very serious so like she probably thought not much about it if if that makes sense but I obviously now like I've been reading up when Mormon religion

and I'm like okay I know I have never known Mormons like any Mormons growing up so I didn't realize how intense of a religion it is and all respect to it. But for Grant, who I don't think obviously is not Mormon, it could be a bit of a life adjustment. And I think when he- Well, I guess, but I guess only if she, like, wanted him to convert to Mormonism, which I doesn't seem like she does. It doesn't seem like that. I'm like, did she even mention that. I don't think she did.

She just, like, I'm from, like, you know, I am of Mormon faith. I grew up Mormon religion. so it's like I don't think she ever mentioned like I need this like this is going to be a part of my life with you in it I think she just was sharing like this is how I have been raised and so I think that's like a different lens that people should like consider because I think like obviously they're two grown adults like she's going to make the best decision in him too for their lives together if yeah and she did mention when she wants her kids to grow up in the church so that's also that's also like because but you can he might be like no like i don't want that and that that could be a deal breaker yeah yeah yeah no so yeah it's it's interesting but i definitely do think that she could have or should have said it a little bit earlier are you are you religious yeah i'm i'm christian so you're christian now is that now it's none of my business what what you and doten want to do but like if if doten was like no i don't want to raise my kids with the christian faith who

Would that have been a deal breaker for you? 100%. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And the thing is it's like I'm like I take like my relationship with or my faith like as a personal

relationship with God and like so does so does dot in which is like where there is an alignment. Like I try not to get to like caught up on just like, you know, religion and like the code of all of that because I think that's where a lot of people like it can get very tricky. But like ask me, I will talk about. my relationship with God. I will talk about my faith and that's where it is and I plan to do that for my kids. So I think that's where like the alignment happens. But yeah, like it would be a deal break if he was like, absolutely not. I'm like my kids do that, you know? Yeah. Absolutely not. Okay, so we get, we go to Wyoming, beautiful, beautiful house. Another another like we're not, it's not intimate. There is a hundred people on the front lawn. No, it's insane. I was like, what is this

Yeah. It was, it was wild. And they're doing like the Mormon thing where they make they make the sodas. You know, that's a big thing. Yes. I didn't even know. This is I'm saying I'm reading up on a lot of things. I'm like, so does a big deal. Yeah. Yeah. Grant was he was definitely panicking. This was the day that I thought he was the most nervous going into it seemed like. Absolutely. Absolutely. His energy was really off that day. But I think. But I think. I thought, I mean, the family, like, they seem to be fully acceptant of him and we're totally like, hey, like, we're Mormon, this is what we believe. You don't need to do that. We accept you either way, just as long as you're a man of faith. Which I, like, I think that was a point in the episode. I was like, I really do admire them vocalizing that and verbalizing that to him. It was really important because I think in his mind that, like, definitely lifted a weight off his shoulders. He probably was like, oh, my God, the whole time.

But he's like, okay. And like, you can even tell that, like, his interview after. Yeah, yeah. His energy definitely, like, it was a lot, like, looser and happier after having that conversation with the parents. And I really, like, I love that. I just loved it. And her family is very sweet, very good.

Yeah, I mean, I would have walked in. I would have been like, all right, I guess, fuck it. I'm lying. I'll be a Mormon. Let's go. Let's go. people um but I really I really I really I really like Latia I think um she's got a great personality I I think they to me I feel like they're the strongest like they have the

strongest connection I agree for sure right 1,000% and I can say this because I'm like this is in comparison to everyone else I feel like the the conversation like like substance, like the depth of it, it goes beyond surface level. And like that is what I'm looking for as a viewer watching this of like, okay, how can I like distinguish between who potentially is going to like possibly be or become the fiancee, the wife later down the road? And it's like, I feel like their conversations of what is shown at least is telling us like, okay, this is like solid material.

Like this is a strong relationship. Yeah, he really like opened up to her. He cries. I thought they cry every time they're talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's showing up to everybody else's house half tired. And then with Latia, he's opening up his heart. So I'm just like, yeah, like this, this to me is a no-brainer.

And I felt, I was like, okay, she dropped, you know, Mormon. I don't want to be like, oh, she dropped a Mormon bomb on them because it's not that big of a deal. But she essentially opened up about being Mormon. and I could sense like some hesitation like grant worrying if they were going to accept him or not but then after the date they were so good at being like we fully accept you regardless to me I'm kind of like all then how do you not like Latia is who you're choosing exactly and that's exactly how I feel I will say and I wanted to see if you clock this when watching the episode um when he sat down with I don't know if it was Latia's mom

or her stepdad, when they were mentioning, like, her timeline of, like, how quickly she wanted to have kids. Did you, did you, like, did you peep that? And I kind of, yeah, so I made a note. It was like they had a conversation to where, again, we don't know if Latia talked about it, or I don't know, maybe I missed it, if she talked about this with Grant, but, like, basically her timeline of wanting to have kids, like, very, very soon. And I wonder, like, two. And he didn't seem like it was like off putting but I could tell he was like a little like okay like this is possibly new information in me I could be wrong but like seeing him take that in I was like oh it was really interesting to have her parents kind of introduced that new concept to him about like

where she was at in her life of like okay she's going to want to have kids like in the next year or two yeah yeah yeah yeah that could be you know the truth is now that you mentioned that grant hasn't really vocalized much about wanting to like start a family and have kids on this in this entire season. And I feel like the most leads usually talk about that. Yeah. He says he wants a family, but like that's as that's as much as we get. We don't go in specific. So like I want to be like I'm ready to have like be a dad like soon. It's just like I want a family. Oh, okay. I want a family. That's what I want a family. I also wrote out that they played tug of war. I just was like that was like Grant, please let go. Like he like did not like. He did not like. go the rope and how he was getting dragged. If this was my hometown and I had the top, damn, we're playing tug of war in the front, he would literally be like, go fuck yourself.

You think I'm getting up and playing tug a war? But yeah, overall, I feel like this is the strongest couple. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Now we go to Chicago.

Dina, she says that her family's not going to be there. Which, her parents not being there i hate i that that really bothers me no if i started like i literally started crying for her and like also for grant but mainly for her because you could tell that she was like slightly disappointed i don't know if she knew that going into hometown that her parents weren't going to like show up or like be willing to participate but like hearing her like the whole like the whole tone of the day was just it was very like sad it was just sad there was

nothing I'm sorry like gorgeous girl beautiful smart all the above but there was nothing that was like positive about it besides her friends being there and supporting her it was it made me really sad because I was like I just wonder like if it would have been different if that makes sense and I'm sure it would have yeah I'm sure it would have but for for me it's like I could totally get behind to understand you not even liking the show and being like somewhat against what the show is and what it represents fine but like be there for your kid like this is your kid like like be there like to me that's like that's showing more immaturity than what you think the show is right right i have to put all things aside truly because i'm like yeah like it's your kid exactly

like i was like oh like i mean literally same almost same i was like my like we obviously we just got through talking about my religion being of christian faith like we grew up in the church like Obviously, none of this, the concept of this show is probably against everybody's religion. Like, no one's supposed to be dating 88 people at the same time. So, like, everyone loses. But, like, my parents would have never, like, just not. And, like, I just feel so much for her because I could tell, like, she was probably thinking in that moment, like, is this going to change the course of our relationship, like, the whole day?

And I wish she could have just probably enjoyed it. And she was obviously really happy to, like, we see her friends come and support. her but i don't know like i feel like in the back of her mind she was always thinking about that yeah um yeah it was nice having her friends there i i actually thought grant that was the most relaxed grant seemed to to to be okay well yeah probably because it was no parents like it was nothing yeah i'll hang out i'll just hang out let's like do whatever yeah like zero pressure i don't think like i don't think i don't think i don't think i don't think kews picking dina ever really yeah I don't really have I mean from what I saw like not a whole ton of chemistry no it just seems more of the it's more of the safe friendship like the colleague relationship yeah it's like the relationship like I trust like he trusted Dina like when Dina said something about Carolina he's like okay I trust what you're saying so I think it was definitely more of like a friend zone so I don't really think the parents being there was make her break but I just think for her like it's like it's

it would have been nice to have that support. 100%. 100%. And like, yeah, it just was really sad when I think, well, we'll get there when we go back to once we get back to L.A. But. Yeah. So, okay. So we're there.

We go to, because we don't really have to talk much more about this. Yeah. We go to, uh, we go to LA and he sends Dina home. Mm-hmm. And she was kind of like, yeah, like, it makes sense. She wasn't really a, but. Very accepting. And I will applaud her on that because I was like, we didn't see a whole.

I mean, like, it was sad, but we didn't see crocodile tears. It wasn't the dramatic. She was just very, like, practical about it, which I was like, yes, girl, absolutely. Like, you had your head in the right place this whole time. And the reality of it is, like, it's probably going to be very hard for anybody to, like, considering the basis of the show. It's like, in two weeks, you were getting engaged and you would want your parents' blessing. That would probably also, if they chose to not come again,

And they would never, like, meet the guy that you're proposing or who's proposing to you. That's crazy. So I love that she just had a good outlook on that. And it wasn't like a whole like super sad, sad moment for her. It's more like empowering and just like, okay, straight to the point. Yeah. And she just comes up. She seems very intelligent and like pretty socially aware.

And I think she just, I just think she knew. Like I don't like, like, like, if he sent Latia home, I think we all would have been like shocked, including her. It would have been like what. Would have been gagged. Yeah. What the fuck? But now, okay, so now we have, we have Latia, Zoe, and Juliana. Mm-hmm.

And to me, yeah, like the frontrunner right now is Latia, and then I would, I would put Juliana ahead of her and then, and then Zoe. Yeah. But, I mean, overnights could change things. Overnights can change a lot of things. You think so? Like, overnight could change your decision, right? It really can.

I'm telling you the conversations that you have in overnights, if you're doing them right. Yes, a lot of things, a lot of things come to light. Yeah, yeah. Or they don't. And then that's a problem. Or they know. Exactly. One of the other.

Yeah. But yeah, yeah. I think our overnights could definitely change things. Overall, I think it was pretty standard hometowns. I think this is the first time we got like two houses where we had like eight. 85 family members there. Yeah. But yeah, pretty pretty straightforward.

Anything else? I was like shocked that the girls got to see. Like we did not get to see each other after hometown. Oh, really? Yeah, I was like, not them having like a kumbaya moment and like sip in like whatever like at a bar. I was like, this is crazy. I was like, I love that they got to see each other. I would have really loved talking.

But that's when I also knew that I think Dina was like, yeah, it's not me or it's not going to be me because the girls were sharing all their. experiences of like how good their hometowns were and then she was like well like my parents didn't come and then you can kind of see like juliana's face like it was like she almost saw a go she was like I couldn't believe it so I think she knew and that that also broke my heart for her but yeah it was a overall decent hometown it was a fast season I it really I know they said it was shorter but it really felt shorter no it like I also feel like the length of the dates were just or like maybe like again substance of the dates it just didn't have a whole lot so like that's also like

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