Bachelor Happy Hour - Cheaters, Botox, and Chardonnay! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Today on Golden Hour, Kathy and Susan are here to dish out some advice to Bachelor Nation! We kick off today's episode with our question of the day: what do you consider cheating? Then, we get into so...me of your questions! How do our Golden ladies feel about getting work done? How on earth do you get over an ex?! Kathy and Susan have the advice to give and they are not holding back! Plus, we put a little twist on today's episode with a game of Truth or Drink you won't wanna miss!  Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:25 great questions from you guys thank you for keeping them coming the the questions and the comments have been great we got our first update it's been wonderful please send them in but first before we get started with today's questions we're going to do the topic of the day are you ready susan okay today's topic is what do you consider cheating some people think flirting is cheating others think dancing with someone else is cheating some think texting someone else is cheating and then there are some more obvious ones like kissing or sleeping with someone
Starting point is 00:03:03 or maybe hooking up with someone so where is the line for you when it comes to what cheating is and how do you communicate that with partners I'm all about communication my lips aren't sealed that's for sure I mean to me if it looks like a dog and smells like a dog. It's a dog.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Right? Is it cheat? I mean, flirting, flirting, it depends. That's not cheating. I don't think flirting's cheating. No. I don't. And I don't think...
Starting point is 00:03:33 Dancing with somebody, come on. I was going to say, that's not cheating. I mean, I think even depending on how the kisses is not cheating. You know, it's just like a hug so nice to see. Making out is cheating. Texting, they're saying texting is cheating. depends on what's on the text. Susan, there's sexting and then there's texting.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I don't do that either. Okay. We're teaching Susan about hooking up and sexting. I can't get past the hooking up thing. Okay. So, where is the line? Cheating is making out with somebody and going all the way. Wait a minute. Cheating is, wait a minute. Having sex with someone? Yes. Or making out with somebody. Yeah, it's cheating. That's it? You're not allowed to kiss somebody else when we're in. Great.
Starting point is 00:04:22 If those are your two rules for cheating, I cannot. Oh, what's coming is I can't wait for your next boyfriend because he and I are going to Italy. I promise I won't sleep with him and I won't kiss him, but we're going to have a great time in Italy. No, you can't do that. It's not cheating. I just asked you. No, you did it. I said, do you consider just.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Going on a trip together was not in this equation here. It just said, where is the line when it comes to what is cheating? I asked you what cheating was. You said making out the world hurt it, Susan. You said making out or sleeping with him. So I'm telling you, I'm not going to make out with your boyfriend, and I'm not going to sleep with him. But he's going to Italy with me, and we're going to have a great time. I won't kiss him.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I'm coming. No, you're not. Why would you want to go with my boyfriend, and I don't even have one? Because I don't have one. And if you have one, any port in a storm, he'll do. What is cheating to you, Ken? honestly I think there can be
Starting point is 00:05:20 in all seriousness which we have not been today affairs of the heart and affairs of the mind are cheating but when I think of cheating I think what does real danger to a relationship
Starting point is 00:05:33 and I think yeah exactly that's what I'm saying what can do emotional damage you know the physical I used to say to my husband this is true we used to say to each other
Starting point is 00:05:45 you know you can do a lot of things you know you can gamble the grocery money when we were younger but you cheat on me we're done it's over that is i would walk away but what's cheating i just for me cheating is um having a relationship with another person male female another person um sexual emotional that you've acted on where I am not number one anymore. Even in the short term. Where your mind and body part is somewhere else. But people think flirting and dancing with somebody is cheating. Well, I mean, some people, who's some people, you know, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think that's cheating.
Starting point is 00:06:35 But I think insecure people might think, you know, if I asked your boyfriend to dance with me, you're not insecure. It wouldn't bother you at all. you'd say, go for it. I'm going to go get a drink at the bar. Well, I know. I've been to religious churches, and some people think dancing is not appropriate, period. But that's different. That's like a sin. I'll tell you, my sister, step-sister, was very jealous. If her husband even looked at another woman, she could go postal. So, you know, I think it's, I think we all know what's cheating. You know, you and I know what would be cheating and I can assure you my husband knew what was cheating. All right. You're ready for the
Starting point is 00:07:17 questions today? This is from Karen. Are we going to ask some good questions? She didn't put her age or where she's from. Well, Kathy and Susan, I could do some dating advice or words of encouragement. I used to be bedbound and weighed almost 600 pounds. After getting gastric bypass surgery and working on myself, I am much healthier and happier. Unfortunately, despite losing a lot of weight, I am very self-conscious of my new body. It's completely hindered my dating life and ability to put myself out there.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I am proud of all that I have done, but I am bummed to still be feeling this way. Any tips? Thank you both. Love you, ladies. God bless her. Can I just say, yay to you Karen that you used to waste 600 pounds and I'm guessing couldn't yeah you said bed bound
Starting point is 00:08:17 let's just be honest here friends um if you've lost that much weight you've got a lot of loose skin um because our body can only you know reabsor react so much so if if you can afford it go get the surgery if if you can afford it go get the surgery and get your you know your body um I will tell you, and you know, Susan, I've said it on this podcast, I used to weigh 200 pounds. And, you know, now I weigh, you know, 130, whatever. And my skin is not what it, you know, what. Yes, it is. You're fine. I've seen. I'm saying it's not taught tight skin. It's not 600 pounds down to, but. But I'm just saying, no, no, no, let me finish. My point is I sometimes feel, um, I look in the mirror and it's, it's like body dysmorphia like, uh, I look off.
Starting point is 00:09:09 because I see the person that weighed that and that may be partially what's going on with her and maybe partially that you know her skin needs some some medical tension medical attention I mean I'm just I agree with that 100% I would take a loan and I finish the process or maybe she already has I don't know but she's hindered by her dating life that she had no dating life and she's worried about putting herself out there you should feel fabulous. You did this. Stand proud. Love yourself because it's not going to be worth dating anybody until you love yourself. Be proud of yourself. You've accomplished something really huge. And you never dated. You were in bed. So it's like a learning thing for you. Try little things.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I was going to say, yeah, you got to give a time. But definitely do it. Yeah, Karen, you got to give yourself some grace here. Proud of you, Karen. Yeah, we're proud of you for losing the weight, and you said you're much healthier and happier. Yeah, you. But take it a step at a time. If you feel like a surgery would help you, if you feel like getting out and meeting small groups, just do it a step at a time. You don't.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Just like, you know, even after you had the gastric bypass surgery, you didn't lose all that weight overnight. It does these changes in your personal life take time to. We're proud of you. Go for it. Yeah, really proud of you. Good for you. I'm Jemail Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid
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Starting point is 00:13:33 Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay. This is from heaven, not from upstairs, but her person's name is heaven, age 64 from Chula Vista. Hello, Golden Hour gals. I hope this question isn't too personal. I am just a woman in my 60s trying to look my best and think you are both so. gorgeous. I was curious about your beauty routines and your feelings on plastic surgeries, fillers, and Botox. I am considering getting some work done to feel more confident in myself,
Starting point is 00:14:15 but my husband says that I don't need anything done. It's not that I quote, need it. It's more that I want to just feel better about myself. Would love to just hear you to talk about this topic and normalize it for women our age so I could feel a little less shame, self-judgment, around it. Thank you so much. Susan, let's say in unison. Just do it. Just do it. But the thing is, you don't do it for anyone else. That's right. And she said that.
Starting point is 00:14:46 A little Botox will freeze a little muscle, but the problem is it only lasts a couple months, like four months. Okay, Susan, come on. Let's spill it. Let's spill it. Have we talked, you, me and Nancy, about the three of us going for facelifts and it's all taking care of each other? Yes, we're all going to take care of. of one another. I can't wait. I mean, my beauty routine. I started a kitty.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I'm saving my pennies. I'm saying that I would do it all. Susan, I've done fillers. I've done Votachs. I mean, I have no problem with it. I don't have any problem with it. And anybody that judges you or jealous because they're not doing it. Tell us what you really think, Susan.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah, more power to you. Yeah, no, and you're right. Susan's absolutely right. Do it because you want to feel good about yourself. It doesn't matter what your husband says. It really doesn't matter. It's funny. If somebody asked me, I would tell them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I got shot up over here a little bit. But I love the people that say, oh, no, I've had no work done. Hello. There were some women on our show who said that. We're like, we can still see the needle marks. But I will say as far as beauty routines go. Yeah, own it and enjoy it. We take care of our skin, definitely.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yep. I mean, I get facials once a month. I never, I never ever go out in the sun without sun. sunscreen on and a hat on. And I wash my face with moisturizers. I put on like eye cream, night moisturizers. She calls them her what creams? What do you call them? You have a name for him. You pack your I don't know. Oh, God. Yes, you do. Okay, well, it'll come to me. But I'm just saying, I use, and you know what, it doesn't have to all be expensive stuff. It can be, you know, drugstore stuff. The real thing is making sure that you drink enough water, stay out of the sun, use sunscreen. Protect your skin and clean your skin. I have different routines.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I try different products. Some are expensive. Some are not. But I definitely. I mean, I'm aging regardless, but imagine if you weren't taking care of your skin. But no, I'm a true believer. And yes, I use sunscreen now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I didn't for a long time. I come from baby oil and iodine error. Can I just tell you, it's time for me to do my PSA, otherwise when it's public service announcement? I was at the dermatologist speaking of skin routines yesterday. I have not sat in the sun since I was 28. I remember the day I said, I literally was 28 years old. I never go out without sunscreen on my body. I have just had yesterday, you can't see it up in my forehead, three skin cancers, pre-cancerous things, burned off.
Starting point is 00:17:28 you know and she's telling the truth we're in st martin and we did go out in the sun but she lathers up and reapplies yeah and i wear long sleeves whenever i can yeah and i'm italian i get brown walking outside but have you ever had a skin cancer susan yes i have melanoma actually i've had two no surgeries like i said baby oil and iodine i play golf i have a convertible i'm in the garden i'm doing the mulch i'm outside all the time so Yeah. But I take care of it. I go to the dermatologist every year. But your skin care routine is yours. You use whatever you use, but definitely take care of yourself. Yeah. And I will tell you, my facialist said people think it's about the makeup. Like people say, oh, your makeup looks so pretty. It's not. It's the skin care. It's what's underneath. So thank you for writing that question. Yeah. All right. This one's from Lily and she's 29 and she's from Virginia Beach. Hey ladies, hope you are both doing well. I love, love, love your podcast. I need help with an age-old dating problem. Getting over my ex. My ex broke up with me for someone else around a year ago.
Starting point is 00:18:43 She and her new girlfriend are still together and couldn't be happier. Me, on the other hand, I've had trouble moving on. I compare everyone I date back to her and I still just miss our relationship. I have muted her on social media, but when I have looked, seeing her and her new partner is so painful. How long does it take to truly get over someone? And what are ways you've gotten over people in the past? Clearly, she wasn't the right person for me, considering she dumped me to date someone else. But I can't get over her. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you, my queens. I feel you.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah, that's so sad. I would say to you, it's a year. Well, it's a year. First thing I say is time. It's time. It's also, instead of, I don't know that she's doing this, Lily, but instead of sitting around and you're probably not sitting around,
Starting point is 00:19:47 but you know, put yourself in situations to meet new people. Because sitting and thinking, about her all the time. It's going to keep her from moving on. Social media with her new girlfriend. Well, she muted her, which means she can't see it. But I think that when you say you compare everyone back to her and you missed your relationship, well, clearly, Lily, your relationship wasn't great because, at least
Starting point is 00:20:13 not for your partner, because she broke up with you. So I think maybe you have a little bit of fantasy of what your relationship was and compared to what you wanted it to be right something crazy just entered my mind that people have said to me in the past it's like a cliche but get over somebody you got to get under somebody to get over somebody remember that saying no i think you should date somebody else i don't think that's what that expression means i do not think that's what that expression means yeah it is get under someone in other words be with somebody else it helps you get over.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Are we talking having sex? Got to move on. Having sex? Really? It's hooking up, Kath. You just said get under. I swear to God, I'm going to write a primer for you. It's going to have all the terms and what they mean.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Oh, Kathy Zippet. I feel bad, honey, but you know, it's usually time and meeting somebody else. And she says she wasn't the right person for me. Considering she dumped me to date someone else, Lily. you're right. You're absolutely right. So, honey, just wait, move on, try to get over it. It's just time. And feel blessed because obviously she may do this to the next person too. All right. The next one from Sophia. She is age 32 from Milwaukee. Hello, Susan and Kathy. Please help me, L.O.L. I'm in the midst of planning my wedding and my mom is driving me nuts.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I've always dreamed of planning this day with her, but we've been at each other's throats for months. every decision I want to make she likes the complete opposite our tastes are just super different and it's putting a huge strain on my relationship with her and also her relationship with my fiance it's tough because she and my dad
Starting point is 00:22:04 are paying for the wedding so I feel like she is getting the final say on our day but it's not going to feel like hours at all if she has her way with everything any thoughts on how we can come to a compromise on some of this or should I just say we shouldn't work together on planning
Starting point is 00:22:20 anymore for the sake of our relationship. Thanks for any help you can give. Obsessed with you, ladies. We love you. We love you, Sophia. Ouch, it's such a pain in the butt when moms are controlling. I can tell you what I did with my daughter, and you might suggest this to mom, Sophia. I gave my daughter a budget and I said you can do anything you want with it.
Starting point is 00:22:43 You can put it down payment on a house. You can buy, put it towards a car. you can do whatever you want and she planned the entire wedding and when she wanted me to come with her to look at things and flowers and sample food we did that so sophia my suggestion would be mom how do you feel about since it's my day tell me what my budget is and i want you to be part of it but i really want to plan my wedding and if she says well daddy and i are paying then you have a decision to make because, you know, he who has the gold can make the rules. So if you don't like it, pay for your own wedding. When she says, Daddy and I are for it in the bill, but it is my wedding,
Starting point is 00:23:26 mom. I don't like that. I mean, I'll compromise on some things, but that is not going to happen on my wedding day. But the daughter. She has a right. That's what I'm saying. The daughter has a right. My daughter knew I would spend more than she would. So she goes, Mom, do what you want. Just make it black tie. Okay. I mean, my daughter had exquisite taste. But I'm saying I think there's two sides.
Starting point is 00:23:53 You got to speak up. No, but Susan, there's two choices here. One is them who else the gold makes the rules. You don't like it. Take a loan and pay for your own wedding and say, Mom, you're an invited guest. Why do parents have to control what kind of wedding it is just because they're paid? You have to, but it's, it's, I'm saying if, if mommy is controlling it and she's paying for it, she may be one of those moms who says, hey, I'm paying for it, I'm going to do what I want
Starting point is 00:24:20 to do with it. That's possible. And I'm saying to Sophia. It's not her wedding. But she's paying for it. I don't care. She's supposed to it. It's her mother.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Oh, well, tell that to all the girls out there who've paid for their own weddings. Okay. Let's start that conversation. I wish she'd like, honey, try to talk to her. Try to talk to her. Maybe cry a little bit and say, Mommy, I don't want to upset you, but I really don't want that kind. Oh, great, so now you're saying be disingenuous. No, that's genuine.
Starting point is 00:24:47 She's upset. So cry. Sophia, good luck. And happy wedding. And call me, if you need me, I'll come marry you. She probably won't like that either. She probably wants you in a church and that would get her back perfectly. DM me, babe.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Okay, this is from Gary, age 15. from Indianapolis. Hi, Golden Girls. I have a bit of a dating dilemma. I could use some help with. I recently started dating this guy. Let's call him John. John checks all my boxes
Starting point is 00:25:22 and seems like the kind of guy I have been waiting to find. Everything was going great between us for a few months. And after it was all green flags. Yay. I got a call for my friend who said she heard he previously cheated on his last few girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I confronted John about it, and he said it's true. But that he's worked on himself and has gone to therapy and promises he won't cheat on me. I am struggling because I have always been a believer in the once a cheater, always a cheater theory. But John is such a sweetheart, and I really can't imagine him doing that to me. am I being naive? Should I get out before we get deeper into this and I could get more hurt? Or do I trust him that he's changed? I mean, he's never cheated on me and everyone has a past. I need an unbiased opinion. What do you ladies think? X O. Carey. What do you think, Susan?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Because you don't want to ask me. I'm a believer and he's good now. He loves you. He's not going to do it again. And I want to see the good in people. Everybody does make mistakes. What do you think? I'm going to say take a baseball bat to him? I didn't know. Who said anything that I said about you? You know, like what?
Starting point is 00:26:45 I always look for the good. So I look for the bad? He, here's the thing. We don't know how long they've been dating. A couple months, right? So why are we worried? Why is she worried? She don't want to get really deep.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Well, you know what? For a few months. Love is risk. Everything was going great for a few months. take the risk. You like them? Yeah, you like him. You got to take the risk and you know what? No risk, no gain. And who knows you might date him another two months and decide it isn't all green flags that you don't like him and has nothing to do with him cheating on his ex-girlfriends. I mean, in his past relationship. I like that he went to therapy about it. I know. Is he like a sex freak
Starting point is 00:27:27 and he cheats that way? You know, those guys have issues, but therapy helps people sometimes. You got to take a chance. I think it's, I think it's, um, everybody makes mistakes. Everyone has a, well, everyone makes mistakes, but not the same one three times, right? A couple times you did it, yeah. I don't know. I don't, I don't think once a cheater, always a cheater. How goody is to you and how happy you are with him, yes, you're taking a chance,
Starting point is 00:27:57 but you take a chance with anybody you're falling in love with. Anything can happen. And honestly, if he did, it's going to hurt like hell, but never regret the moments so that you learned from him, grew with him, and enjoyed him. Yeah. And I'm saying they haven't dated long enough to know. They haven't dated something else. You know what I'm saying? She might meet a guy at the bus stop.
Starting point is 00:28:18 She likes better. I mean, but I will say to you, Carrie, when you say it's all green flags, Susan, is there a perfect relationship anywhere in life? No, there is not. So be realistic, Carrie, in your assessment. of him be realistic no one is perfect all right well that amazing group of questions today thank you to everyone who wrote in we're wishing you guys all the best whether you're dating is planning a wedding whatever's going on and if you want to send us a question head to bachelornation dot com slash golden hour and submit yours now we really do love hearing from you we love sharing our opinions
Starting point is 00:28:57 susan and i love arguing with each other who's right so keep those questions coming okay then now before we wrap up for today kathy i have an idea for a new little game how about we is this because you failed at truth i suck at quandary okay so how about we play a round of truth or drink oh wait drink wait drink i'm in your wine all right i got it let's do this all right i'm always down for spilling i'll do whatever i got to do to get my glass of wine. Let's do it. All right. All right. I never envision
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Starting point is 00:29:53 waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need a identify my prince charming like it was never a princess like that never entered into my mind but you know as I learned sometimes life gives you things wrapped in the package that you didn't expect it and that was just you know and honestly it took me a long time to be okay with myself make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:31 What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:32:16 A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's the weirdest thing you've been asked on a date? Now, I guess this means if we don't want to answer it, we drink. Is that? Well, for me, it's, it's, it's, it's, you can't lose.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I get to drink or answer the question. I mean, who cares? All right. So what, what's the weirdest thing you've been asked on a date? Weird. I don't know. I can't. I can't think of, I can't think of.
Starting point is 00:32:57 We're both going to drink on that. We're drinking. All right. Oh, who had your favorite night one dress on Golden Bachelor? That's easy. I loved mine. I was just going to say my feathers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I don't remember them. Do you remember them? I like this gold dress. I thought that was nice. Yeah, that was pretty too. Yeah. Honestly, Kathy, I was more into getting to know them.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I couldn't even tell you what everybody wore. I can't either. Isn't that crazy? You're right. All right. Where is the weirdest place you've ever had sex? Come on a rooftop in Miami in the jacuzzi. Oh, shoot.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You're going to believe this. You know what my answer was? Hmm. Oh, I don't want my kids' tears. Thanks a lot. No, it was also in a jacuzzi. It was not fun. I don't like doing it in jacuzzi.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Yuck. That was, yeah, but there was more to that story, but I don't have to drink because I can't. My kids can't hear this. I know. All right. Which Bachelor Nation couple do you truly think we'll get married next? Oh, I know that one.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Who? Kelsey and Joey. No. Are you joking? Oh, Braden and Christina first. Why? Who? Katie and Zach.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I forgot them too. There's a few of them going to get married. You got to drink. You're wrong. I doesn't say drink when you're wrong. Okay, then I'll drink because I was right. Who cares? I think a few of them are gone to, but who's next?
Starting point is 00:34:46 Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right because they're closer to getting married than the other ones. That's what I think. Oh, yeah. Take a drink. No. Okay, Susan, you've learned some, wait, wait, wait, before you read this one, you've learned some terms. I know what hooking up it. Oh, you know, okay, great, read it. I was a flight attendant,
Starting point is 00:35:06 Kathy. This has nothing to do with me. Yes. Yes, it does. Are you a member of the Mile High Club? This is not a credit card club. Do you know what the Mile High Club is? Yes, I do. It's having sex in the bathroom on an airplane. Yes. I was a flight attendant for all those years and never was a member of the Mile Hodge Club. When my ex-husband and I went to Hawaii to get married, I said, Dickie, I've never had sex on the airplane, so you've got to come in here.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I want to be a member of the Mile Hog Club. Can I just tell you? I was never a flight attendant and I've never been a member of the Mile High Club, but you know why? I can barely turn my ass around in that bathroom by myself. It's just a moment. It's not really sex but whatever yeah all right okay that was funny uh where are we what's the worst date you've ever been on i have i had a few of them give me give me one he didn't show up i the work okay that's good
Starting point is 00:36:10 you know my worst date it was actually right before i went on the show it was a guy who just sat and talked about his deceased wife oh yeah i think i said this on the podcast before oh my god he wouldn't shut up I was a counselor. I can't. I just can't. Let me pay the bill for you and let me out of you. This guy was like, you know, I would say, oh, I like your glasses. My wife picked him out for me.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Oh, you know, oh, you live in a house wherever. Oh, my wife picked up. I got to the point where I just wanted to say shit to see if I could get him to say my wife did it. All right. I kind of want to skip the next one. Oh, we're not skipping the next one. Have you ever sent a nude photo? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:36:55 have you it's none of your business that's not an answer yes i have drink you didn't have to drink you didn't have to drink because you entered the question susan you really struggle with rules of dames i don't do any rules have you met me i break them all all right okay which golden bachelor date do you wish you could steal that's easy anyone that jones on i'll bring to that which golden bachelor date do you wish you could see i i wanted damn ellen's dresses and diamonds who i mean come on or the helicopter or the boat i like the helicopter with faith that i called that date before it happened yeah the but i mean really i've said this before on this podcast i got nothing i didn't get a date i didn't get quartz i didn't get a rose i got nothing okay oh god who wrote these
Starting point is 00:37:55 Who is the last person you text? Would you read the text? Who's the last? Well, mine was born. Mine was to my daughter. What was yours? I'm on the podcast, can't talk. Mine was to my daughter.
Starting point is 00:38:12 How did read her daughter? My granddaughter, how'd she do in school today? Really boring. Okay. Oh, Susan. Is there anything I do that really annoys you? yeah what but you're getting way better at it girlfriend
Starting point is 00:38:36 wait wait what do I do that really annoy you over talk me shut the hell up and listen and you got to do this and you got to shut up pause okay Kathy is there anything I do that really annoys you are they trying to put us in counseling or what They're trying to break us up before. Let's drink to that, girlfriend. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Cheers. Love you. Salute. Can I just say. Jen Don, baby, a hundred years. People wonder, we really are good friends. I'm telling you, the hell with Gary and Teresa. You were the best thing that came out of this.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And we argue and we at each other. And then we love you. We don't say goodbye without saying I love you. Good night. Yep. All right. What do I do that annoys you? Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Stupidity annoys you. I know, honestly, what you do. First of all, I want to say. She's going to have a list in a minute. Now, be nice. What you, Susan asked for your advice, ask for my advice, particularly in one, I know I'm dying. Susan asked for my advice, and then I give her my advice.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And she goes, yeah, I'm not going to do that. I'm like, then why the hell did you ask for my advice? I was curious. Yeah, I was curious. So now when she asked my advice, I'm like, why do you want it? Are you just curious or do you want? know what you think yeah oh god okay if you ever had a one susan have you ever hooked up that's the old word for a one-night stand no i have not i haven't either no we're weird no we're weird well maybe no
Starting point is 00:40:08 oh jesus no it was more than once that would have been like a friend with benefit thing oh my god but i liked them like i wanted a relationship but he did so yeah so no it wasn't a one-night While you're talking, I'm drinking, I'm just saying. Yeah, I see. I'm making you nervous. Okay, what are your thoughts on sex toys? That truly is the next question. I wish I took stock in them.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Oh, look at you. You're learning the financial rules I've been giving you by stock. I think not only do I enjoy them that I think partners should be comfortable with everybody enjoying them. So should we tell everyone what Susan gave me for my birthday? And she loved it. best birthday president she ever received well a hookup would have been a better birthday gift but yeah not a hookup that's a one night stand this one gets recharged and it could go forever okay i'll drink to that no i don't think there's anything wrong with them uh some people
Starting point is 00:41:09 struggle in certain ways and they're helpful oh look it now now now she's playing the political card here i don't struggle you're not on the struggle bus okay all right besides you each each other who from golden bachelor oh this is easy for me besides each other who from golden bachelor would you want to be stranded on a desert island with you got to think about this all right we take the people we really like and then we take the people we really don't like i couldn't know i'm kidding don't write into me guys i'm kidding okay okay all right kath you ready for this one would you have sex in the fantasy sweet you're down to two or three or three you know the truth you want the truthful answer why you could give me whatever you want no i'll give you the truthful answer if i had gotten to
Starting point is 00:42:05 the fantasy suite try it before you buy it now i would have been so convinced because i am confident i would have been so convinced that he would choose me i would have been planning for the future and i and i would have probably had sex with them, yeah? What about you? Um, I'm not telling. Yes, you are. I'd have to be in the moment. Probably if you got that far, like, that's what happens. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. They just assume. I mean, I would like to, I'd like to go to the fantasy suite just to see what goes on there. To watch? I mean, you know, I don't want to watch. It's wrong with you. I'm having wine. You're. I'm having wine. You're. You're making me drink every question.
Starting point is 00:42:53 See, here's the problem for all of you who are listening. Susan drinks. She gets loose lips. You know, what can we say? I'm funny. That one cute sometimes. All right, kids. I just choked on that last simple wine.
Starting point is 00:43:07 That was a lot of fun, Kat, don't you think? It really was super fun. And once again, we thank you all for joining us today on Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. You know what, guys, we couldn't do this without you. I'm so glad that you're tuning in and enjoying us. We mean no harm. We love everybody. And we just speak from the heart.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And, you know, Susan, that is such a great point. The other thing is, guys, we love hearing from you, but know that we are kind-hearted people. If you take what we say and it makes you feel better and helps you, we're happy for that. But the biggest message here is love your life, enjoy your life. That's what we're doing. And to that end, we love that you tune. in and listen to us. And we hope you're following our podcast because life is hard enough. You got to laugh a little bit along the way. And it's very short, enjoy every single moment of
Starting point is 00:44:02 it. And please get us a date. Please don't judge us. We mean no harm. And you know, maybe Kathy, that's why we don't have dates because we're loud, we're fun, we're obnoxious, we intimidate people. And I'm really kind and soft and cuddly. You know what? You and I both are. So, I know, I know. So send in your date request for both of us. Send in your submit your questions. You already got one. If you listen to all of our podcast, you'll know I was left out in the cold. But make sure to submit your questions to us so we can talk to you. Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour to send them.
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