Bachelor Happy Hour - Cheryl’s Time to Be a Princess!

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Mel’s first one-on-one this season: Cheryl! The motorcross icon is here to tell us all about herself, her journey to the show, and her “Golden Bachelor” experience so far. We kick things off getting into her Night 1 feelings and how she got to the show. Then, we find out how this Bachelor Nation fan prepared for her journey and who some of her favorites have been through the franchise. She also dives into the emotions behind her princess date and what that romantic evening meant to her. Plus, she gives us all her thoughts on Mel and the season to come, including a fun little tease for future episodes. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So join me every Monday, and let's find the Bright Side together. Listen to The Bright Side on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with Cheryl V. You Got the First Date on the brand new season of the Golden Bachelor. Welcome to the podcast. How are you?

Thank you. I'm doing good. A little, you know, nervous here, but this adventure has been amazing and I'm here. I'm happy to see everybody. Let's talk about, let's talk about your nerves for a second. Do you think you're more nervous right now or when you stepped out of the limo? Oh, you didn't step out of a limo. You rode out on a motorcycle. What were you more nervous for? I was not nervous on the motorcycle. Were you nervous? I'll be honest with you, Joe. Were you nervous when you approached Mel? Yes. The handsome man, charming, handsome, masculine.

Yes, I was very nervous once I got off the morocke. Would you consider Mel to be your type if you have a type? Oh, he's definitely my type. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. How would you describe your type? My type of man, I love a masculine man. I do love a very exciting man, sweet, charming, funny, like a funny man.

And so, yeah, I mean, he's beautiful. He's a beautiful man. What can I say? So, yeah, I was very nervous. Okay, so let's go back to the beginning. So you live in Colorado? I do. I grew up in Lakewood, Colorado.

So I love the mountains. And I've been here most all of my life. So how far is Lakewood from Denver? So Lakewood's going to be about 24 miles west of Denver. Okay. Up by the mountains, up by red rocks. Got it. It's called Green Mountain.

They call the Green Mountain. It's a little mountain that you'll see before you see those big mountains. And that's where I grew up, right up on top of Green Mountain. Well, you get elevation sickness when people go there for the first time. like is it that high up yeah if you're in the mountains you will um most people do just a little bit but where i grew up isn't really that high it might be 56 000 i don't know what we're at 5280 in denver so yeah and it was wonderful growing up on great going you know growing up on green mountain was amazing it was nature you know of course we used to play outside yeah yeah i kind of

of like that would be um i would love to experience that like i would say something that i lack in my life is nature yeah we live in new york so a little less nature oh my goodness yeah new york is beautiful it is but but no mountains no mountain no okay so let's talk let's talk about how did you get on the show that's a great question um would i ever nominate myself for the show. It's my favorite show, but no. So my niece came out from Texas with my little sister. It's her daughter. And she's sitting, you know, we go out for a little Greek dinner and had a martini came back and she's smiling at me. I'm like, Angelina, what are you looking at? Why are you smiling so big? She goes, never mind. Never mind, Auntie. Just send me four pictures. Okay, I'm going to send you

four pictures. I don't know what you're doing. 20 minutes later, she's on her phone. She says, auntie and I said yes and she goes I just nominated you for the golden bachelor I said oh my gosh is that what you had the pictures first goes yes and you're going to make it I go oh my gosh so it wasn't very long after that yeah I was going to say well how long till you got the call after that nomination I'm going to tell you it was two to three days oh really wow yeah it was I'm like oh my gosh I'm sitting with my mother. She's 93. And I'm like, mom, somebody's calling on my golden bachelor. So it was the most exciting time, really. I didn't know what to expect. This is my favorite show, The Golden Bachelor, The Bachelor, you know, at Trista, she lives in bail. Oh, my gosh.

So exciting. Do you have a favorite, do you have a favorite season? Have you seen all of them? I have seen all of them. But I know, you know, Trista's was amazing because, of course, that was the first one. Of course, Joan and Chalk, yeah, that was amazing. And Chalk was my favorite, too. I do want to tell you. And Joan is an amazing woman. So I think the two of them are making a beautiful couple, actually.

So once you get the call that you're going to be going on the Golden Bachelor, Or how are you feeling? What are your friends and family saying to you? They're going screaming. They're just screaming. And they're like, we know it. I'm like, how did you know it? Because I didn't know it.

They're like, well, Cheryl, you know, you're pretty exquisite. And, you know, yeah, you just be you. And, you know, I'm always, I have a lot of energy. So they're just, they were so excited. My mother, she's still trying to grasp it. She goes, what's his name, honey? Mel, mother, who is he? So it's cute.

But I have a loving family. I have a very close family. And they're all my, you know, they're my best friends. And we all take care of each other. So I'm very blessed with that. What do you do for a living? So I work full time. for the U.S. Treasury.

And I'm retired now. It wasn't easy, but I was happy to help people. And I'm also a caretaker of my mother that's 93. And it hasn't been easy. And hadn't had much time to date. And I always imagine having a lot of friends, especially beautiful women and, you know, Mal. And so it's exciting.

at least. So I still am trying to absorb it. Yeah. So you roll up on a motorcycle and let's talk a little bit about your racing background. Yeah, you said like you have. Okay. 40, 50 something trophies from motorcycle racing. Oh, yeah.

Oh, my goodness. So I have another niece that race motocross as a pro. But she got in it as a novice. And we used to ride in the mountains, her and I, on these bicentennial bikes in the mountains. These are full metal bikes. We take the headlight off, the tail light off, and we ride. And one day these guys go, man, you guys are fast. You're fast through those mountains.

We were trying to keep up with you. And we took our helmets off there like, your girls. Oh, my gosh. So it went to our heads. So she bought a race bike, of course, the motocross race bike. And if you don't know motocross, those are those real loud bikes. that they race, you know. You see them all the time on the videos.

It's a dangerous sport. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. It was healthy for me. She's like, Auntie, I'm racing and you got to race. I'm coming first in the races. I know you can come in second. Wait, is this something that you started, like, not that long ago?

I was 32. 32. Yeah. Okay. I started at 32. You weren't a teenager. You didn't, like, grow up doing this. No, I wasn't a teenager.

Most people say, I started that when I was six. I did that, but I quit when I was 14. I started at 32, guys. But it really helped me with just everything in life that comes together, stress, of course. It just helped me focus on just me. And it felt so good. We're like a family when we raised, you know, all the people that race our family. So I started racing.

And, yeah, after nine and a half years, I didn't have 951 trophies. Of course, I don't have them all now, but I've given a lot away. My grandkids have some, so it was really fun. I loved it, and I still ride. I ride in the mountains, and I love riding. What kind of bike do you have? So right now I have what's called a Kawasaki 100, Joe. And what that is, is a smaller bike that I used to race a 125 Yamaha.

Very tall bike, but I was able to jump, so I like jumping. Now would you say, would you say that is now? your hobby or what do you do like what what is your release or your hobby to just something for you you know of course it is my hobby yeah that's what I love to do you know people say what what makes you do that I mean how do you even think about doing that but it's second nature and I love the mountains I love to glamp not camp too many bears in those mountains right now there's like 3,000 bears in Colorado that met people. Yeah. So you definitely want to glamp and, you know. That's so impressive to me. Like, I'm scared to get on a city bike with Joe and bite through like the

streets of New York. Well, the streets of New York on a city bike are actually really hectic. Yeah, different type of scary. But I don't, I don't know if I have the courage. I've done like ATVing through trails and that's the closest I've ever gotten. Yeah. Well, we actually, we took a, it was a couple years ago, but we, we did this deal with Porsche and we did like this Porsche excursion through British Columbia. But the guy leading the pack was a race car, was like an old French race car driver. And we were driving so fast. And we almost like, no, yeah. We almost got hit by a truck. He was like swerving in and out, like going into the other lane trying to cut around cars that like weren't going fast enough for him. And I was like, I'm willing. I'm,

I support you, but, like, I'm not getting behind the wheel. Like, I'm, we're not going to make it out of British Columbia if I get behind the wheel. I still have moments where I wake up and I'm like, like a couple times a year of them. I'm like, oh, man, I forgot. Oh, I'm sure. Almost died. I am sure. Neither of us are huge adrenaline drunkeys.

But I find your story to be very impressive. But back to your time on the show. Tell us about night one, your first impression. of the mansion, the women, Mel. Night one was amazing. I love night one. It was great. When I came in on my motocross bike, of course, that was not my motocross bike, but it was a motocross bike. And it worked. And it was a great, great size. Okay. So I walk in and I open the door. We're in the mansion. They take the motocross boots off me and put the heels on. And I'm going into a living room with

the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life. They look like porcelain dolls. And they're all smiling and they're welcoming me. And I felt the warmth of the mansion really felt connected right away because we all have that similar personality, you know, and they're hugging me and it felt so good because these are my sisters. They're going to travel through that journey with me. And I really felt good.

about it. I can't lie. It's it was amazing. Yeah. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for like hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose. and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history.

On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Jemisbeg, host of the Psychology of your 20s. Remember when you used to have Science Week at school?

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I'm Melissa Fumerro, and this is more. better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. We had so much fun last season, laughing, crying, talking to some new and old friends. Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah.

And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this has no friends. This time around, we are, say it, Melissa. Should I? Say it.

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Anyone in particular that you hit it off with, that you're like, oh, this person were going to be friends for a long time? Oh, man. I wish I could say one name. There were just so many. There's so many. What was your first conversation with Bell like? And did you feel an instant connection? I felt nervous.

But, you know, looking at him was amazing. He's just a big guy, NFL, right? So, you know, my first husband was part of the NFL, but with a free agent. So he never really was on a team. He reminded me a lot of that. And, you know, I was in love and he's a big guy and big hands. So it made me a little nervous. But after talking to him, he's so sweet and he's such a great listener.

And he just kind of put me at ease and we kind of hit it off really well. It's like, you know, he said one thing. I said the other. And yeah, I think it went great. I was thinking, yes. We actually thought that you might get the first impression rose. Were you surprised when you didn't? Yeah.

No, I didn't know. I wasn't surprised because Jerry, yeah, Jerry got the first impression rose. I call her joy because she's such a joy to talk to. I was very grateful that she got it because we were talking about a sensitive subject. And she was so happy. And so, you know, we're all there for Mel. So I realized he's going to be, you know, looking at other girls and wanting to get to know everybody. Yeah.

How are you taking that in or are you at this point, you know, night one, are you even, are you even thinking about the fact that, like, you are about to make friends with women who are going for the same man that you're going for? it's on it is different you know it's like I wish you could just have you know 23 wives yeah so do you that's a show that's that's a different show okay so basically I knew that these girls are all powerhouses right um they are and they're beautiful beautiful and so they were teaching me a lot you know And I knew that they all had a fair chance as well as me. And so I kind of like, you know, if I see that, of course, we're seeing a lot of different one-on-ones and, you know, little chit-chats here and there. Yeah, it was a little nerving because I thought, you know, I want him to be my guy.

So, yeah. Well, you didn't get the first impression, Rose, but you do make it through night one. and we see that you get the very first one-on-one date of the season. How did you feel getting that date? That was amazing. I had to look at that card twice and read the letters because I'm like, that is me. That's me. So I was really excited that he felt maybe the chemistry I was feeling.

And I was like, yes, this is wonderful. I was just like the girls were kind of disappeared now. And so I was so excited. I didn't know exactly what it was going to be all about. I just knew that I got this first date and I was going to see Mel. And I never would imagine how. And from your point of view, how did the date go? The date went amazing.

I saw him, you know, walking out. I had somebody help me with the girls, help me with a few things. Yeah, we see you do all the shopping with the dresses and the jewelry and you have all your try on. It was giving very like 90s makeover movie moment. Oh my gosh. It was incredible and I didn't realize these were all gifts for me. And even the girls that I chose were gifts to me. Those are the girls that came to mind and they are amazing girls.

Yeah, they were your hype squad for sure. Yeah, they were. I was so grateful. You know, when when I was young, I had an older sister. of course, right? So she always wanted to dress me. And she's like, come to my house, share, because you look good in this outfit. And she dressed me when we went out, you know, and disco. And she go, yeah, you look good in this. And she knew how to dress me. And I just kind of liked that. So here I am with these beautiful gowns, right, coming from Italy and New York.

I was overwhelmed. I did get emotional. Yeah. We saw you get emotional. Yeah. And I needed my sister Rachel, I needed my sister. So the girls. Was that happy emotion? Was that sad emotion? No, as happy as can be. So when I'm really happy, sometimes I'll just get really emotional, right? And I get that way. Some people do. I'm one of those girls. Yeah. Was it just overwhelming and, you know, you're thinking of your sister and all these beautiful dresses. What was the emotion that you were feeling? I just felt like I was a princess. I was in a storybook. And this couldn't be happening to me. Yeah.

And I'm so grateful. So we see on your one-on-one date, we see you open up to Mel about your past. And it's a pretty traumatic story you told about, you know, the birth of your child and your husband leaving. We don't have to talk about it if you're not comfortable or do you want to elaborate a little bit on that or, you know, feel free? It was such an emotional thing. I'd rather not elaborate on it. Yeah. So, but, you know, all in all, it ended up to be a beautiful story with my son.

So the son and his dad, and thank God, right? And forgiveness is the story, you know, it's the highlight of that story. How did it feel opening up to Mel about something so personal and how do you feel like he responded and received your story? you know he's such a good listener he i felt he really felt my emotions and he listened very well and i felt comforted i was you know i felt comfortable and um i felt like he was you know a good listener again and i felt pretty secure telling him the story you know even though i was emotional so all in all i'm I'm glad I did and um again that night was amazing it was beautiful so you you're a fan of the show

um you know the way the show at least works to an extent um you're not brand new to it after your date with mel like where do you think you're sitting in the and the leaderboard um for a lack of lack of better turn yeah yeah good question um i feel like after that date i might I kind of had a shoe in. You know, I felt good. I felt, yes, this is amazing. I got the first one-on-one. Woo, that's a big gold star.

And then where do you, where do you hope that it goes from here? So after that date that night, I felt like if I wasn't sitting next to Mel, that he still felt that chemistry with me. And because I know I felt it with him. And I wanted to get to know more about him. So I was hoping to get, you know, more time with him. Going into later in this week's episodes, we see that Mel comes by for a pool party with all of the girls. How do you feel like the pool party went?

I would imagine after having this undivided one-on-one date that was amazing, there was fireworks. Was it hard to see him interact with the other girls and kind of go back to sharing that his time? It was. All the girls came out, beautiful swimsuits. you know, bikinis, one piece. But, yeah, it was hard because we all jumped in. And, you know, it was whether you jumped in the pool or not, you got to hold on to him. And I was able to approach him a little bit, but the girls were moving in like sharks.

I'll be honest with you. You know, kind of turned him around and they had a nice big one on him. It wasn't me. Yeah, no, we saw it, Nicole. Yeah. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional.

It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls, became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball.

Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, it's Jemisbeg, host of the Psychology of your 20s. Remember when you used to have Science Week at school? Well, if you loved that, how would you feel about a full psychology month?

This September, the Psychology of Your 20s, we're breaking down the interesting ways psychology applies to real life, like how our pets actually change our brain chemistry, the psychology of office politics, whether happiness, is even a real emotion and my favorite episode, why do we all secretly crave external validation? It's so interesting to me that we are so quick to believe others' judgments of us and not our own. I found a study that said,

not being liked actually creates similar levels of pain as physical pain. Like, no wonder we care so much. So the secret is, if you want to be okay with not being liked, you have to know why your brain craves it in the first place. Learn more about the psychology of, external validation, everyday life, and of course, your 20s. This September, listen to the psychology of your 20s on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get, your podcasts.

Hey guys, it's Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero, and this is More Better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funzies? Yeah.

We had so much fun last season, laughing, crying, talking to some new and old friends. Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this f*** has no friends. This time around, we are, say it, Melissa. Should I? Say it.

Say it. Getting a little. more, better. Oh, finally. It's all the dressing room talk you've loved in season one. All the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better?

Listen to more better on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys.

Then, at 633, Everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently the explosion actually impelled metal, glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism.

Law and order, criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our... focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, Puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land?

Jeopardy truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in... I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. Are there Jeopardy Truthers? Are there people who say that it was rigged? Yeah, ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers, right? And then there's the other ones which are like, they gave you the answers and you still blew it. Don't miss Jeopardy legend Ken Jennings on our special game show week of The Puzzler podcast. The Puzzler is the best place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about that?

Do you have an issue with that? Like, I know some women on the episode voiced their opinion and did have a problem with it. But does that something that bothers you? No, that's not bothering me at this point. Yeah. No, it's not bothering me. I think all of us girls like to kiss, so good for Nicole. I wish I would have snub more kisses.

Yeah, I actually, I agree with you. I do. I think it's kind of like, you know, it's fair game. You know, you're all kind of competing. and you know why hold back totally but i could also understand why i was a little uncomfortable for people too how did your conversation with mel go at the pool party did you get a chance to talk to him you know i don't believe i did i'm trying to think if i had i mean there's a lot of girls right 23 and uh some i don't recall that i talked to him i saw him get in the pool get out or the

Well, he jumped in the pool, you know, just like, wow. I was amazed. He's beautiful, you know, beautiful body. He takes good care of himself. I know that. And, yeah. We see at the Rose ceremony four ladies get sent home. How did it feel seeing some of your friends sent home and were you surprised by any of it?

I was very surprised. Those girls were beautiful. And I would have imagined quite. all of them would have made it further um that was sad you know because you're bonding with the girls at first night and of course the next day i think i did get my one-on-one and so i was kind of you know on my own so yeah it was sad um i don't like to see anybody going um he he really did i don't know what he was thinking to tell you the truth but yeah i mean he's but at the end of the day he's you know he's got to send people home so yeah he made some decisions right made decisions for himself

and you know that that took a lot for him i'm sure it was hard for him yeah i'm gonna pivot away from uh the show from a sec just a little more um background before you went on the show what was dating life like for you were you dating at all not too much no yeah um you know you know, when you date, it's, they, you know, the guys want to get to know you. And I'm working full time. I'm a caretaker for my mother. She basically, you know, it's hard. And when you say you're a caretaker, I think these people are going to go. So, so, but it's a good thing because I really didn't have time for a relationship. I did meet a couple really amazing guys, but like I say, it just wasn't my time. Yeah. What does your,

son think about all of this he is loving it he is so supported supportive that's amazing and he's right there with me and gives me a lot of um just confidence and just a lot of help with it because you know it's a lot for me when you when you went on or even during the show did you at all consider that you and i live in different cities and what you what that would look like. Yeah, I did. I got to thinking about that. And I said, wow, I would be willing to move to L.A., of course.

I have other family members, of course, for my mother. And, you know, I was open to whatever situation transpired. Got it. And going into the season airing, and, you know, we've only seen the first two episodes. What are you most excited about? So I'm nervous, you know, because it was emotional for me a lot of it. But I am so excited to see, see how that just played out is that fairy tale, that opening the book, the first page. Yeah.

And seeing myself, I'm very excited. You know, I can't wait to see it on the big screen and watch what he says. And there's so many things I'm curious about, you know, and watching the other girls on their dates and what, he says to them and yeah i'm excited about it if you if you could tease the rest of the season for us without spoiling it how would you describe it wait and see it's a wild ride oh i love it all right well thank you so much Cheryl for coming on the podcast today is there anything else you want to say before we let you go i want to say thank you joe and serena everybody here Bachelor Nation, I love you all.

Thank you for watching. We'll see how this works out. We will. Good seeing you guys. Thank you, Cheryl. And to all our listeners, make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast. We have recaps and interviews

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