Bachelor Happy Hour - Christmas Eve Traditions and Holiday Reflections | Golden Hour

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

It’s a festive Christmas Eve on “Golden Hour.” Kathy and Susan are getting into holiday traditions, favorite memories, and fun get-to-know-us questions. What holiday would they relive if they could? What past job would surprise you most? Cozy, light, and full of holiday cheer. Tune in and celebrate with us.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Before we get in today's episode, just a quick PSA. If there are any young kids around, maybe grab some headphones. we're going to be talking about some adult things regarding the holidays. All right, let's get into the episode. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us today. We are so excited to be back and so excited about the holiday. Kathy, are you ready?

I mean, if I'm not, I got about eight hours left till Santa's coming down the chimney. So, you know, it's really at this point. I truly am done. and I actually love Christmas Eve. I think I like Christmas Eve better than Christmas Day because when the kids were young, we used to go to like a five o'clock church service with the kids because my kids played piano for the service and they would turn the lights off and light candles and sing signs. I don't know, Christmas Eve to me is just a really beautiful, peaceful time.

What about you? I liked giving the kids all one present on Christmas Eve and it was all. matching pajamas. They got one every year. So the pictures on Christmas morning would be fine. So did you give them to them this year? Did you give them to this year? No, because I don't have children living here. Oh, so you don't do it for the kids and the grandkids, the whole family thing? No. You're saying for the kids to come down Christmas morning? Yes. We, you know what? We never did Christmas gifts the night before. It was, that was, that was a, you know, you might as well of just unwrapped them under the tree and let, you know, but you know, we did do every year.

We couldn't wait. So I don't, obviously don't have any young kids at home tonight. But I miss that tradition too because when the kids would go to bed, Daryl and I would, we each bought the kids a gift from Santa Claus. And that went by, we fill their stockings. Oh, God, I hope no young kids are listening to this. PSA, turn it off. We'd fill the kid's stockings, and we would get out the gift. Just one gift from Santa?

It was always their big gift, like it was a bicycle or, you know, whatever it was that they really wanted. It always came from Santa. And to see their faces was, but I got to tell you the favorite, and then I'm going to ask you your favorite. My favorite memory. Do you know the commercials they do for Disney World that give it to the kid on Christmas? Have you ever seen it on TV? And the kids go, well, let me tell you what we did. We did it first.

I want the credit. We did it before it was on Disney World, whatever. We, one year, I think my oldest son was nine, so it would have been nine, six, and Forbes. We bought tickets to take the kids to Disney World. airline tickets, the whole bit. We wrapped it up and we didn't give it from Santa Claus. That was Christmas morning

and I'll never forget. Douglas, my oldest son was really the only one that was, could figure out, he's like, they're playing tickets and we went, yes, we're going on an airplane. Where are we going? What does it say? And we went through the whole thing and then we brought out the tickets

and the Mickey Mouse thing on it. Were you leaving the next day? I think it was like two days later. They, if you, I mean, I could cry again thinking about it. I'd get goosebumps. They started crying and screaming. Really? Really?

Really? It was one of probably the best Christmas memories. What about you? Do you have a best favorite Christmas? I've done it. Absolutely. But my plan was whenever I was taking them, I would never do it more than three days before, they're surprised, because they would torture me.

How many more days? How many more this? how many more this. Oh, you're, no, but I'm saying, is that your, did you do it for Christmas as well? Not on Christmas Day, though. What is your favorite? I've done other trips than giving it Christmas Day that we were leaving in a day or two.

Yes. But it wasn't Disney for that one. But whenever we went, we went 17 times, Kathy. Oh, God. I could do Disney. What is one of your favorite holiday memories with your family? When I would stump. the kids with some of their gifts I would put clues and I would have them run all over the house

open the dryer and I could hear the boys going is she serious in the dryer and it wasn't there there was another clue and after about the fifth one they go mom seriously oh that's cute that we would laugh watching them run everywhere we would I would wrap uh gifts in in huge big boxes Oh, yes, I've done this as well. One box. And then wrap a smaller box and wrap each box. It was the same thing. Come on, Mom.

Come on, Dad. I know. It's so fun. But I don't know. Christmas Eve, what do you cook? Like this year, you know, I'm eating whatever's in the refrigerator. But what, do you do special meals on Christmas Eve? Well, I used to do the seven fishes, like I said before.

Oh, that's right. That's right. I don't, when Dickie and I were apart, Dickie would take the children out every Christmas. Christmas Eve. And they still do it. We go to dinner and they always wanted to go to the Habachi. Okay. Oh, how funny. For years, that is tradition. And now my sisters, they go to the habachi. And Susan's going this year. I used to join them. Oh, yeah, I'll go, you know. And then I go to my girlfriend Lotties for the seven fishes. Wow. Well, I don't know. I, I remember growing up some of the

Christmas Eve. So my parents were divorced, and we got to spend lots of Christmases with my dad, and I'll never forget, I couldn't have been more than seven, maybe eight. And we, this particular year, we got to spend Christmas Eve with my dad and my stepmom, and then he had to bring us back to my mother's house for, you know, that evening for Christmas Day. And it was a good, nor'easter snowstorm. Oh my gosh. I loved it because you know what happened? He tried to get us there because under the penalty of death by my mother, he tried to get us home, but it was drifting. We couldn't. We couldn't. We got out of the car and we were literally

we were walking back in the snow trudging back to their house and we were all so excited because we got to spend Christmas with my dad because it was way more fun. And I'll never forget that memory. I don't know that the memories of childhood and the memories of having children are so different from me, the Christmas memories. Yeah. I'm sorry. No, there wasn't, no, I mean, they were all good ones, right, from your childhood. No, Christmas memories were always good. My, my grandmother was Catholic and I really wanted. Do you ever go to the midnight mass? I did go to midnight mass. Not anymore. Tonight I will not be at midnight mass. I'll be snug. What is it? I'll be dreaming of sugar plums in my head or whatever

that one is. But I'm happy tonight. I'm sorry. No, go ahead. I was just going to say she, I wanted this winter coat. And my grandmother said, if you, if you do the stations of the cross with me, I had no idea what that was. It's like there's 12 or 13 crosses in a Catholic church. I don't know. You can school me on that too. and I went That's in Lent Oh it's Lent? Are you sure?

Ash Wend's day that starts Okay well it was something else we did And we had to walk around It was a Christmas time And I got that coat for Christmas From my grandmother You know I just remember Standing the church going okay

You know maybe it was lighting 12 candles I don't know I just you know what I get excited about now Of course I wish I could wake up to the babies You know that's the whole thing When the kids stop believing It was different But tonight I don't have to put anything

together. We'd be up to wee hours of the morning trying to put the things together. Okay, did you ever put the wrong stuff in the wrong stocking? We were so tired. Like I said, put the... No, but the people have opened gifts. I go, oh, that's not for you. No, but my kids will come down together. Because our rule

always was on Christmas morning, they could open their stocking and have their gift from Santa, which wasn't wrapped. But they couldn't open, we couldn't open any presents. remember my husband was the naval officer rules regulations there were no more presents till after everyone had had breakfast oh they you made them waste to open presents till they ate i just told you the officer sir yes sir permission to come ashore sir my husband said that was that was his tradition not only that susan each person and we did it my family too with seven kids you

went around and each person opened a gift so you had to watch and my hands were itching on the paper like open the damn my kids got as my kids got older we did that because you don't even know what they're getting like right it's like crazy chaos it was chaos for years and then it was okay you open yours now you open yours but it was a sin when you have twins usually i'd let those two open together because they pretty much got the same thing yeah oh that's funny we um but you never did I remember putting, my kids would come down and they, you know, literally like in Caitlin's, because I only had the one girl, in her, in her, in the boys, there would be like two, what do you call them, lip gloss, you know, when she was little like, play lip, lip, and the boys were looking like,

what the hell is this? And Kendall would go, why did Santa not give me one? I was like, you know, Santa was very tired, boys, I think that was meant for Caitlin. I mean, you know, all that stuff. off every single year. Did you ever lose anything that you bought a Christmas present for somebody? No, because I do the same thing every year. I put them in a, all my gifts are always in a closet. When I, I can buy something in April. And tonight, if I'm wrapping it like Christmas Eve, which rarely happens. But I have been known to do that. I get them all out. And I have a, that's where they are.

Do you keep them all in the same place? Well, everything's in my attic. I have a walk-in attic. and they're in piles by families. But my dad one year, I bought him a gold chain, a gold neck chain, and he's opening his presents, and I would always save something for the next day because his birthday was the day after Christmas. But I was constantly too excited that it's right here, it's right here. You sure you don't want to open it today?

He said, Susan, tomorrow is my birthday. I will open it tomorrow. Well, long story short, he opened all his gifts. and I had his birthday gift, it was something different. And I was like, wait a minute, where's dad? Did you open something without me looking? I lost it. I lost it.

The gold chain, like a real gold chain. You lost it? Gone. It was not there. And we ripped through everything. I looked everywhere. I was so upset. He goes, Susan, don't worry about it.

No, dad, the following year, I went out and bought him another chain and gave it to him. That was Christmas week or whatever. You didn't have to do that on and on and on. Long story short, the following year, I was wrapping gifts, and I have a big gift wrap bag thing that you keep all your stuff in. It was there. I found it the next year. What did you do with it?

I gave it to him. He said, what am I going to do with this? I said, I don't know. I mean, you got two now. What can I tell you? Here it is. Because I don't believe you went out and bought another one. It was a year later, so you couldn't exchange it.

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Hanukkah's been over now for a few days um so those of you who do not celebrate christmas just pretend you can pretend and it's fun it's fun celebrate you know it's it's we don't have to get to the whole idea of jesus being born just you know wraps something up and or actually okay little test here before we get into our our little questions that we're going to do do you know what I grew up I told you I grew up in a mostly Jewish neighborhood do you know what

the Jewish people in my neighborhood and I think this might be across the board do on Christmas Day go to the movies they get Chinese food and go to the Chinese and go to the movies which you know what if tomorrow doesn't work out well I might be getting dim sum yum and going to a good and we eat really early like by three o'clock i'm like by eight o'clock i am scrubbing the floors cleaning the house like it's all done i go out like go visit or go to the movies or go to the casino or on christmas day on christmas night you go to the casino

they're not i mean i have clothes on christmas the casino no clothes just like the movie all right we're not going down the casino row here we're going to keep things light And we're going to answer some questions so you guys can get to know us better because who doesn't want to know us, Susan and Kathy, just a little better. Well, don't you know about us? Really. All right, Susan, you want to start us off for the first one? Okay, I sure will.

If you could go back and revisit one holiday from your past, what would it be and why? Oh, well, it's Christmas Eve. It would absolutely be, I would love to see my children's faces again when they got those tickets. Disney World. I would love, I could, I replayed my head all the time. What about you? I wasn't thinking that of my children. I thought they meant from my past as a child. Well, that is, it's still from my past. My kids are grown. Yes, I guess you're right. So I have to rethink the question. I don't know. I love all of them. You're struggling to think of, well, that's good thing. I don't know which one would be my favorite. Well, you know what, you know what's nice about that, Susan is? You love them all. That

I did. Yeah. I still do. I'll tell you one from when I was a child. My father, as you know, my stepmother, I considered my mother. My father gave my stepmom for Christmas one year a emerald cut diamond ring because they got married. They weren't engaged. I mean, it was the second marriage for both of them.

And she had a beautiful gold wedding band, but she never had a diamond. And I will never forget the look on her face when she opened that box and saw that diamond ring. I'll never forget. I've seen how. I love that. What ones I like to go back and visit wouldn't even be Christmas, it's surprising my kids with something, you know, on their birthday when I bought Britney a car, you know, things like that. All right. What's the next one?

what was your first holiday season like with children oh chaos i remember no no no a baby yes and they like the paper in the boxes it didn't even matter what was in it oh i love that they just i remember my kids my my my infants i mean they slept it could have been you know it could have been they didn't care it was christmas they didn't know new years it could have been your fourth of july but when they started crawling. Oh my God, getting into the tree. Oh, God. You know what I did? My trees for the couple of years there, I put nothing on the bottom so that they couldn't, you know, they couldn't get them. But then I would take them over and hold them in and touch them. Let them touch them. Wait, I have to tell you one other

thing that I cannot believe, because I'm looking at it right now. My, my, you know, it's, it's, it's dark. My tree is lit. I have a Christmas decoration. and my grandmother, the one that I did the Catholic thing with, she bought all of us green glass balls. Just, you know, your standard big four inch, five inch, you know, those big glass balls. And she had all of our names. Names.

Glittered on them. I still have mine. I'm the only one who has it left, and I always put it up on the tree. That's what made me think of it when I had young kids. Like, I love you children, but you break that ornament, I'll have to kill you. It's always tucked into the tree.

You just gave me, and I thought that when we said, could you go back and revisit one holiday? I love this. You know, when you give your children, they get to shop at school and you give them $10 or whatever the amount was, wow, I opened presents on Christmas and my son, one son bought me a diamond ring, and then my other son bought the necklace. And they were like, you know, from the Five and Dime store. Oh, how sweet. Oh, my God. I'll never forget it. Like, how special they did it and they wrapped it by themselves.

And it was such a thing. Brittany used to get me things every year from this Christmas bazaar at school. We never had that. I made a face because we didn't have Christmas shopping for the kids. All right, Kathy, if you had a naughty and nice list for men your age, what gets someone put on each one. Why would you put somebody on a naughty list or a nice list? I mean, listen, I'm easy.

If a guy is kind to me and, you know, tells me, whispers a sweet nothing in my ear, he's automatically on the nice list. I think the only thing they would put him on the naughty list are things that would put them on the kick him out the door list. Like, you know, cheating on me. Or, you know, I have to say, if for men, not boyfriend, for just men in general, treat your special someone, your mother, your sister, your partner. Give her a card, give her a gift, make her feel special.

That's what's going to get you on everyone's nice list. I happen to agree with it. But I know you get the next one, but I got to ask you. Okay. what was the first big purchase you made with your own money and how did that make you feel i remember mine oh my god i actually don't remember uh okay so tell me what was yours this is something i i forget so many things like a mazorati would you buy no not this one i'll never forget my first real job my whole paycheck there was a pair of these teal colored

wedgies, shoes, I could not wait to get them, and I actually didn't have money for the week for gas, and I went to ask my parents, could they spot me till next paycheck? And my mother said to me, well, you just got paid. You got your first paycheck. What did you do? I bought shoes. My mother, you do. Carmen, will you talk to her?

You can't do that, Susan, your first paycheck, and you bought a pair of shoes that you can't afford There were a hundred dollars. And life has not changed much since then. I'm just going to say it all you out there. Susan gets a paycheck. She's out shopping. I honestly don't remember Susan. I really don't because I worked from the time I was 13.

We had across the neighbor, the neighbor across the street was a quadriplegic. And so I went over every day after school and she paid me and I helped her. She would tell me what to do to fix dinner for the kids. because her husband, her charming husband left her after she became quadriplegic. So I went over so I got paid from that and I don't remember.

I know I tried to save money. I got a savings account. I liked seeing my savings. She was a saver. She always, that's why she has it now and I don't, but I had everything I wanted. Okay. What is the job you had early? Oh, I've got a good answer for this. What is the job you had early in life

that people would never expect? Oh, gosh. I worked at Orange Julius in the mall and I worked at the record bar in the mall. We sold albums. I know record bar. I had two jobs always as a high school kid. And then I worked for Dr. Saltz when I was allowed to do the work program and leave school at once for a dentist. So I had three jobs. Okay. That's why I thought I could go by shoes. I mean, oh, that's funny. Well, I already said I worked for the neighbor cross street, but do you know what job I had all the way through high school? What?

I was a cashier at a grocery store, and I worked my way up so I could work in the courtesy booth, cashing checks, and that, you know, that was high cotton. But back in those days, you couldn't look at the register. They were the old-fashioned, you had to push the key. You had to count the change out. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah, I could do math. I had to count the chance.

But literally, we couldn't look at the keys. And so it was like learning how to do an ad machine. And when I got tired of working and wanted a break, I was so fast at it I could jam the machine and I would do it regularly I know I was bad but I remember getting those paychecks

and getting overtime I thought I was I thought it was big cotton the cats me out there you know all right what's a story from your childhood or your teenage years that still makes you laugh out loud

oh gosh you know well I can tell you one I laugh out loud now because I love it's not about Christmas but it's July 4th when I was little I hated the fireworks that I was so sensitive to that large to that loud noise and every year my mother would make me go and I would scream so loudly because I was so really desperately afraid of it and she made you go. She would make me go yes like I said my stepmother was my my real mom anyway but I was

just hysterical. The sound scared me so much. And now I love fireworks. Like the louder the better. But so I laugh out loud now thinking how afraid I was of fireworks back then. For me, it's the silly things. I used to stand on my table and chairs and

have something in my hand like a microphone and I would entertain my parents, my grandparents, when we went to my Nanas, I would perform. Oh, well. You haven't, you're still doing it, Susan. haven't changed a bit. Okay. All right. What's the moment in your life where you felt the most proud of yourself? I have a couple moments. First, having a child. I was so proud. And I went

natural. Foolish. Not that I planned on it. She just came really fast. The second proudest that I felt when I was able to speak at my father's funeral. I was very proud of myself. Good for you. I didn't do it for my mom. I did it for my brothers, both brothers. It's something, it was hard, but it helped me get through it.

And I was very proud of that. Oh, good for you. I don't think I could do it. How about you? So, you know, I got married very young, and education was always, my kids would tell you today, if you ask them what's most important to mom, they would say. say, I mean, aside for my children, my grandchildren, education. It's huge for me. Well, I got married when I was 20 and I left college and I got married, but I was determined to finish my degree.

And I, we moved around a lot and I finally graduated 13 years after I started. And I walked, I remember walking up to get that diploma and, oh, I was so proud that I did it. Good for you. okay what is an all right go ahead you do this one go ahead what is an experience you had in your 20s that shaped who you became at 60 getting married

it's true to that I don't think I have an answer for that one all right let's move on if your life had eras like you know Taylor Swift what would the name of your current era be I got it

well go ahead save the best for last I'll drink to that I think we can both drink to that one yeah okay what's the wildest or most spontaneous thing you've ever done in the name of love oh god Susan you got to take this one

I got lots of yeah you know what you can do mine for me I'm not even going to hit this one up go go for two what are your two too top. Actually, I've done it more than once when I surprised someone for, with a gift, of course, with a trip. Like I took somebody to Greece and I surprised Dickie going to Hawaii. That was spontaneous. You're telling me you just said, boom, I decided. I went out and did it and boom, here you go. And this is why Susan is still working. Oh, God. All right, go ahead.

What is something you wish viewers knew about what living in the mansion was really like? I think. You guys know everything. I think we told it all. I think the bathroom situation was a little more chaotic. Like you had to plan when you were going to use the toilet if you got my dress. Yeah, especially with the ones and now the smaller rooms will come to use our big ones. Yeah.

I mean, the bathroom. situation was not ideal and the other thing about living in the mansion is there were always like susan cooked a lot there were always damn dirty dishes in the sink and it was always me we were not mentioning names here but you and i both know there were some people who cooked there were some people who ate and there were some people who never washed a dish excuse me did you just put that in there you need to wash it because the dishwasher was broken we had to wash the dishes okay All right. All right.

If you could redo one moment from the show, funny or serious, what would it be? Oh, for me? Yeah. I would yell it to receive and louder. What the hell is wrong with you? Zip it now! Yep, I would. Oh, my God.

You know what? I like to jump it out of the cake. I really had fun jumping out of the cake. That was fun. That was fun. It was such a fun time on that show. It was. I wish everyone could have that.

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were giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle. And you know we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday. I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this

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it's shoes and identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories I'll be holding space for on my upcoming 13th season of Family Secrets. Whether you've been on this journey with me from season one or just joining the Family Secrets family, we're so happy to have you with us.

I'll dive deep into the incredible power of secrets, the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Michael Lewis here. My book The Big Short tells the story of the buildup and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely but lucky people who saw the real estate market. market for the black hole it would become, and eventually made billions of dollars from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Isman. We fed the monster until it blew up. The monster was exploding. Yet on the streets of Manhattan, there was no sign anything important had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's original release, and a decade after it became

an Academy Award-winning movie, I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The big short story, what it means when people start betting against the market and who really pays for an unchecked financial system, is as relevant today as it's ever been, offering invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics. Get the big short now at Pushkin.fm slash audiobooks or wherever audiobooks are sold. What is something you learned about yourself in your 60s or 70s that you wish you knew earlier? Oh. You learned about yourself? Oh, that's so easy for me. Okay, go ahead.

That I may not be perfect, but I wish I knew that and believed it that I'm the best I can be. I'm not perfect, but I'm a good person. I'm the best I can be. and not everyone's going to love me and that's okay. In other words, I think I spent too much time earlier in my life trying to please other people. Trying so hard. And now, and didn't realize that, you know,

I'm not everyone's cup of tea. And guess what? Not everyone's my cup of tea. And I learned that. Like really like my wife. It's quite similar that I don't have to be somebody. I'm not to please another person. person, I'm good enough.

You're better than good enough. You're better than good enough. Thank you, Kathy. All righty. What's a love lesson? You learned the hard way. Oh, God, don't ask me that because I still don't learn. Oh, well, I can answer this. And I will tell you, it makes me cry, but I'll get through it.

What I learned the hard way is when my husband was alive, alive, you know, the old expression, do you want to be right or happy? I sure wanted to be right all the time. And I learned that the hard way because now I can't, you know, I can't tell them. Now I don't care about being right. I just want to be happy. There you go. What's a belief, a value, or truth you've kept with you your entire life? What?

Oh, I got one. Okay. I value integrity. I value doing the right thing. I'm not saying I've never, that I haven't at times done the wrong thing. We all do. But I put great emphasis and great belief that you do the right thing for you. You don't do it so other people see it.

You do the right thing to set, hopefully to set an example for your children, for your friends. And so that people will look at me and say, they'll realize I have an attempt. because that's really important to me. What about you? And for me, it's being real to people and not telling a lie because you think that's what they want to hear. Yeah, that's a good one. It's just being straightforward and unapologetically, authentically, us.

Yeah. Okay. When did you feel the most loved ever? The most? By my nana. Yeah. My nana. Really?

I mean, I felt loved by my family, my friends, you know, and my boyfriends that I've been in love with my husband, but my nana. I was very special to her because, as I think I mentioned before in one of our podcasts, she had three brothers, and then she got married and had three sons. And my dad was the oldest, and she came from Italy. And I was the first grandchild.

I was a girl. Yeah. Needless to say. Yeah, no wonder. Okay, now I understand the deal with Nana. Okay. Yes. For me, it's absolutely no-brainer.

My husband. He always made me feel so loved. So sweet. Okay, what's a moment in your life? You think your younger self would be really proud of? I think my younger self will be proud of me, Period. It's not a moment. I'm very proud of who I become.

Her younger self would be most proud that Susan on Christmas Eve gets out those teal shoes and says, I might have spent 150 bucks on them, but I still have them. How many years I held on to this guy? They were dry riding in the island. I would never throw the mail, I'm telling you. I think my younger self would be proud, because I didn't have great role models. I think my younger self would be proud of the mom. I was to my kids. Again, made a lot of mistakes, but I was, you know.

Wait, I know it's your turn, but I got to ask you this. Okay. Is there a part of your personality, people misunderstand? And what's the truth behind it? You know what? I can answer that for her. Go ahead. You answer it for me. Go ahead. Kathy, I work on it constantly with her. It's her delivery. She's got a heart of gold. She really does. But the way she puts it out there sometimes, it's a little rough. Well, and I'm going to tell you it's because the truth is, you're right, and I am misunderstood. People think I'm hard.

I'm not really hard at all. But I was one of seven kids, and I was, for a while before the second marriages, I was the youngest to five. And let me tell you, you learn to scrap and fight because you're going to, in my house, you starved, literally, if you, you know, so I learned to be direct and hard and moving. fast because he who hesitates is lost in my family and things we develop who we are from our childhood yes oh childhood trauma we can do we could do weeks on that subject it's crazy different for us what about you i think people know exactly who i oh see i i think you are kind i'm a crier

i'm sensitive maybe they don't realize how sensitive i am i think no i think people see all that in you I think people, I don't think they misunderstand it about you, but I think people think that you are always sweet, always just a love button, which you are a lot of time. But there is also a side of you that can be tough. You don't see it too often. Do you hurt somebody I love or you're pissing me off? Yes, that's the side I know.

But I think a lot of people, and this came from in my career in hair business, would the young ones would say I want to be like you when I grow up you don't let anything bother you that is so far from the truth yeah it really is people think I'm stronger than ever and I can handle anything and I can I manage but it hurts like things yeah do bother me and I act I fake it to you make I think a lot of people who come across as really strong have have weaker not weaker have sensitive sides where they just learn how to cope better or disguise it. Pick a word. Coping skills. Coping skills or disguise it because they don't want to have that conversation. They don't want to show it. But here it is Christmas Eve. That was kind of fun, right? We get learning

little things. We learn more about us. That is our Christmas holiday gift to you all getting to know a little bit more about us. I speak for Susan and me when we wish those of you who celebrate Christmas a very, very happy Christmas and to the rest of the world, happy, happy New Year. That's right around the corner as well. Yeah, we'll have an episode of talk about that next. And unfortunately, that's going to do it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you so much for joining us. As you know, we have new episodes coming out every week and we're going to stay current

and talk about everything that's happening out there you don't want to miss. Make sure to submit all your questions to us. you can go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour or hit us up on socials at bachelor happy hour and listen to the bachelor happy hours golden hour on the iHeart radio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. Oh, ho, ho, happy holidays. Hey everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. Did you know that I recently joined Substack? Very exciting. It's where I'll be

sharing my unfiltered conversations with the people everyone's talking about. I'll also tell you what I'm reading, what I'm watching, what's making me crazy, and what's giving me hope. If you like deep dives, hot takes, and real talk, you're in the right place. Search Katie Couric on Substack and hit subscribe. I'll be there reporting live, most likely in my pajamas. See you there. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. We were in the car, like a Rolling Stone came on, and he said there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted

is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories on my 13th season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know the shade is always Shadiest right here.

Season 6 of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Giselle Bryan and Robin Dixon is here dropping every Monday. As two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac were giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And you know we don't hold back, so come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Michael Lewis here. My best-selling book, The Big Short, tells the story of the build-up and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008.

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