Bachelor Happy Hour - CK on His Breakup with Monica B. and Dating Today | Golden Hour
Episode Date: July 16, 2026Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are joined by CK from “The Golden Bachelorette”! Kathy’s very good friend is here to dish on his breakup with Monica B.,... his dating life since the split, and a very exciting event he and Kathy have planned for a good cause. We also get into our “Golden Hotline,” where CK will help dish out advice on learning to trust again after being cheated on, big age gaps in your golden years, and whether checking someone’s phone is ever justified. Plus, we end this episode with a game of “Fantasy Suites, Final Rose, or Send Home Night One,” if you know what we mean! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome back.
Here we are again.
It's Susan.
And I'm Kathy.
And we are just so excited about our guest today.
I mean, we could talk about what we've been doing, but everyone knows Susan and I were together.
Yes.
We've had a great summer so far.
It's hotter than hell.
And it's about to get a lot hotter on this podcast because guess who we have today?
I love it.
From Bachelor Golden Nation and Joan's season, we have C.K.
Welcome, CK.
Thank you all.
Thank you, Susan.
Thank you, Kathy.
So good to see you in those shiny, pearly white teeth.
I feel like I need to go to the dentist here.
How have you been, CK?
I've been doing very, very well.
Now that I see you and Susan, it just makes my day.
He's such a flirt, this one.
I try.
But you know what, in a good way.
We love compliments.
So tell us what's going on in your life real quick.
well I'm working and dating and trying to stay out of trouble and do the right thing and keeping busy and just living my life we don't care about the work we don't care about keeping busy we want to hear about the dating I'm dating did you hear what I just said date like what is wrong with this picture yeah how many how many date so I T K K a lot because CK does date a lot and I tell me as a stable so let me you know give a winnie here how many
how many, how many got in the stable this week and tell us about them?
Well, I'm not sure if I have a stable, but I do very well.
And I think that's part of the problem in trying to find the right one is when you have too many options,
it's just clout your judgment.
And more often than not, you're going to get it wrong.
So, you know, that's part of my problem.
So I'm working on it.
What are we doing wrong?
We have no options over here.
I do have a question for you, though.
As a man over 60, do you have any fears about committing to a woman, C.K.?
Oh, Edward.
Listen, I have no problem committing to a woman up to and including marriage.
So, you know, it's not a fear of mine.
I will say this, Susan, my experience from the Golden Bachelorette when Jones season told me so much about myself.
you really get time to reflect on where you think you are versus where you are and what you want
and how you go about that. So I'm two years removed from that. I'm in a really good place.
Okay. As a follow-up, C.K., what did you learn about yourself? How are you different now?
Well, I found out that on the heels of coming off the show, that it wasn't quite as vulnerable as I needed to be.
I kept people at arm's length.
And I was coming off of a divorce.
I was probably 12 years divorced.
And I was still kind of holding on to that.
And so, you know, knowing and I understand that has helped me cycle through that.
And so for the last six months or so, I've just been in a really, really good place.
Okay.
Susan.
Can I ask something, though, were you always, I think you're very flirtatious, you're easy to talk to?
No, I love that.
I'm the same way.
have you always been like that or has that only been since the show that you found yourself and who you are?
Oh, no, Susan, that's a super, super great question.
Like my mother, I would go out there once with my mother and I would just try to, I would be nice to like the waitress, people, the attendant.
And my mother would say to me, when you get into relationship, you kind of have to stop.
So, yeah, like being for a taste, not for shape, but being overly nice to the attendant to the waitress.
So I try to scale that.
Flirting are a lot on the scene.
Okay, okay, you two.
I am just going to rip the band-aid off because I have so many questions I want to ask you,
but they're all predicated on the answer to the question I'm about to ask you, C.K.
Oh, you know it.
I love you dearly.
We had you and Monica B on the show.
You broke up.
I hear this wind of you two chatting again.
Did you break up?
Are you chatting again?
Are you going to go out?
because you had told me that you could see yourself marrying this girl.
So I want an update, CK.
What is going on?
Yeah.
So thank you for that.
Like I said, I'm an open book.
So, Kathy, you probably know more than anyone else with respect to where my mindset was about 10 months ago.
Because I told you that if four criteria were met with respect to Monica B,
that there would probably be a golden wedding in the spring of 2026.
And you tried to talk me up that wedge.
I was defiant.
Like, it's going to happen.
It's going to be a golden wedding in 2026.
And unfortunately, not only is it not a wedding in 2026 of the spring,
but Monica B and I have broken up as of, I think, January of 26.
So that's where that is.
We don't talk very much.
We did speak over the last week or so with respect to her grandson
and my willingness to help.
in any way that I can because I still feel like, because I chose her.
Yes.
Like I picked her and I chose her.
So I still feel like in some way, in some part of me, I still feel responsible to help.
Did you feel like you got just too excited about it, about the idea of it?
And she's a beautiful woman, as we all know, is that part of it?
And then you just calmed yourself down and pace.
You have to pace yourself.
Yeah.
Well, no, no, so I think quite the opposite.
it like for men we we we know like we know ostensibly we know like then you got to get into like
the the internal of a person and I think that's where our our goals and values want to align are
one major yeah so it was that and I tried Susan in all fairness like I tried to align myself
with where she was and I can second that he did he did yeah I that just doesn't I tried because and but it
just doesn't work for me because in as much as she wants what she wants, I feel like it's important
for me to get what I want. And that's important. Well, it is or it won't last. I mean,
you're doing a favor for both of you and you can remain friends. So do you feel like you find
somebody that will align exactly with you? I mean, there's always going to be some. I mean,
you and I, man, we blow the world up. We'll have a ball. Wait a minute, Susan. Susan, he's about to,
he's about to announce that I've always been the woman he wanted.
So give the guy a minute, Roy.
Why is it that you are the only one saying that guy?
Well, I got a number of reasons.
No, go ahead.
Okay, answer that one.
Well, I have a social life of abundance.
I get invited to a lot of things,
whether I'm here in Maryland or I'm back in Los Angeles.
I just get invited into so many different things.
And before, I would say, no, I don't want to do this.
I don't want to go here.
I don't want to do that.
And I think in January, I said, you know what, I'm going to open myself up.
I'm going to go to all white rooftop party, Bel Air or Hollywood.
That's how you meet people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I got invited to join social clubs in Los Angeles, some of it very exclusive social clubs.
And they put me in a certain area or arena with certain people.
And so I'm very happy there.
You can take friends to these things, you know.
I clean up real nice.
Susan, again, get in line.
C.K.'s got a little event coming here.
You know mingle and I'll do the same.
I mean, we're there for support for each other.
That's right.
You'll be my wing man.
I'll be your wing woman.
Exactly.
That's right.
Okay, so see, I'm very curious, and I may or may not know the answer to this.
What is it that you really want, secretly or not so secretly?
What is it that you want in a woman that is a deal breaker?
If she doesn't have it, whatever it is, she's out.
Like, what is it you have to have?
Well, the first thing, I think first and foremost, that's a great question, Kathy.
But first and foremost, I want a woman who is of age, right?
Like, I need a woman who's lived.
Oh, great, Susan.
Do you hear that?
He wants a woman over 18, a woman of age.
He's not like most men at 16.
I mean, of age.
Like, I'm going to be 64 in December.
I want a woman of my own age.
And that way, you know, we have some similarities.
We understand certain things, right?
Yeah.
So, you know, being under-ease is a deal worker for me.
But, you know, I don't go on with a lot of rules and regulations.
You know, Susan, I know it when I know it.
I feel it when I feel it, you know.
But I feel it frequently.
Like I fall in love easily.
But then I don't do all the homework, I guess.
After a year, it's like, hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I get that.
And, you know, Susan, I think the last six months, in all honesty,
coming on the heels of my breakup with Monica B,
the last six months has taught me that, you know, my future is probably more important than my feelings.
Like, I can feel one way, but my future is really important.
Now, you might say, CK, what the hell?
Dude, you're going to be 64 in December.
But I feel like my future is bright.
I got a lot of living to do.
I've got a lot of going to accomplish.
But more importantly, Susan, I have a lot to lose.
So I cannot afford to make wrong or bad decisions because it'll cost me everything.
and I can't recover everything again.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, CK, are you saying that,
Susan and I were just talking about this earlier
in another podcast about compatibility versus love?
Are you telling me, I'm asking,
do you have a checklist that, you know,
she has to be presentable at the club?
She has to look and act and you don't have to love her.
She has to meet that criteria.
Is that what I'm hearing?
You know what, Kathy, I hate to say that there's a part of me
that 100% agree.
with that. And I hate that part of me because it's so vain and mundane, but that is the absolute
truth. I need her to fit in and to be part of that world. And feel comfortable doing so.
That's right. She has to be comfortable in that life. But I'm sorry, darling. What a, can't you,
I hear what you're saying, but I'm not hearing the word. And you're divorced, K, you have five
kids. You've been married. You've been down the road. To go, to, to end.
enter into that kind of contract, if you will, to enter into that relationship again that's committed, permanent relationship, you better hope that I would hope that you would want more than, unquote, fitting in at the club.
Well, yeah, there's so much more than fitting in. There's the financial aspect of that. Like, where is she financially? Where am I financially? And I've worked myself to be in a position where, you know, I get where you are.
Yeah, if she made no money, like, I would be totally okay with that, like 100%.
I'm not looking for someone.
If she doesn't have a home and she doesn't have a retirement, like, I'm okay with that.
Are you?
As long as people would.
Are you?
Yes.
Will there be a pre-known?
Oh, 100%.
I'm just saying.
Thank you, Susan.
That's right.
If I'm asking for loyalty, if I'm asking for devotion and love and understanding,
Susan, I'm giving what I'm asking for.
So, yeah, we're there.
Well, Susan, Susan, if you get off this podcast right now and buy a ticket,
I think you can be out in CK's neck of the wood.
Oh, in about four hours.
How about older women?
You said of age.
I do.
I'm 100% a woman of age.
I mean, Kathy, I get what he's saying.
But for example, Susan and Kathy, like my executive staff,
the men on the executive staff.
Most of them are married.
And I've seen their wives and girlfriends.
And the first thing comes to mind when I meet them is I see what he sees in her.
Like, I can see it.
I can see why he chose her.
And I want the woman that I choose.
Now, you may say, CK, that's not required.
But it's somewhat it is.
Like, I want my partners and my executive staff to meet Kathy or Susan and say,
CK, I see what you see in her.
Not only is she lovely, but, boy, she's very,
charming. She's fun.
Okay. So smile worth
a thousand. It lights up a room.
Okay. So, C.K., are you dating?
Have you met anyone? Are you
currently dating anyone
that you're thinking will fit into that
role? Or are we back to feeding oats
in the stable? No, no,
no, no. There's no stable. There's no stable.
But I will say this, Kathy.
This is a subject. I think that's somewhat
taboo. But for me,
like, I'm a black
man. That it's in a
corporate office. And the idea of dating has to, in my mind, is partly interracial dating. How do you
feel about that? Are you comfortable with that? And that's a huge, huge element for me,
because most of the women that in my community are not black. Most of the women that's part of the
country club is not black. Most of the women that are part of my work environment is not black.
So I have to really consider how do you feel about interrelated?
racial dating. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot to think about.
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Okay, this is our golden hotline, baby.
So every week we answer questions.
from our listeners and we give them, I don't know how expert it is, but we give them our personal
advice. And today we want you to help us do that. Is that okay with you? Sure, absolutely.
All right. These are good. All right. Here comes the first question. This is from Tiffany in Atlanta.
Okay. Tiffany says, I was the other woman without realizing it. I dated a man for six months before
finding out he had a girlfriend the entire time. I ended things immediately, but now I have major
trust issues. How do you date again after realizing someone lied to your face so convincingly for so long?
What says you, C.K.? Well, look, I have a daughter. And so if my daughter were asking that
question, I would tell her, you have to be very, very careful in terms of who you connect with
in terms of, you know, your emotions or intimacy and do a very, very strong vetting process.
More importantly, trust the men that are in your circle because men know scammers and liars when they see them.
Good answer.
What came to mind for me is if I dated someone for six months, I know his whereabouts.
I want to know where you are at this time.
If you have a full-time girlfriend, that would make less time.
for us. So I want to know where you are. I would probably investigate.
Susan, I'm telling you, she's got a baseball bat and a crew of God knows who, the mafia
that would find out for her. But, you know, I have, yeah, thanks. I have a whole different
take on it. I think you, whatever that famous expression is, you know, to never loved,
you have to let your heart go to know love. I think. Better to have been love.
than never love before.
Yeah, one of those things.
But here's my answer for you, Tiffany.
Whatever happened happened.
But if you give that guy the power,
and that's what you're giving away,
your power to love because he cheated and lied to you,
then you're giving off all your power
to someone who doesn't deserve it.
Move on, find the next guy,
and don't think all men are liars and cheaters because they're not.
That's just it.
She's having a hard time.
your heart. Trusting. Yeah. I'm saying trust. You have to open your heart and trust again.
Because the alternative means you'll never find love and a good relationship again. You have to trust.
That's part of a good relationship. It is. It is. All right. The next one's from Gloria and she's from Chicago.
I'm 71 and dating a man who is 58. I love you, Gloria. We have an amazing connection.
But my friends keep teasing me about being the older woman.
I thought we'd all outgrown these kinds of judgments by now.
Does age really matter once you're both adults?
Or am I setting myself up for heartbreak?
Susan, wait, before you answer, C.K., Susan, I met a guy in California.
Did you write this question in it and change the name?
No, but I'm 69 and friends 56.
Same thing.
Okay, what do you think, C.K.?
Well, I think at 71 or 58 or 65, age almost becomes irrelevant somewhat, right?
I think it's how a person takes care of themselves, how a person thinks, how a person vibes.
And let's be honest, you know, if the connection is strong and good, then to me, it's all relative.
On the other side to that, I mean, her friends may have a little hate going on there.
Jealousy, maybe.
Yeah, a little jealousy.
But also, I don't like to date like to.
you were saying earlier, it has to be within the age,
because you can't even share the same music likes
or the same errors that you were talking about when you were young.
Like you're in different faith when it's that big of a gap,
then I see some struggles with that.
See, I think music is the least of anybody's worries.
With an age gap like that,
and Susan, you know I've met two guys now
who were much younger than I,
and the issue for me is it's not that they're still working.
That's not a problem for me.
It's that they don't have flexibility because of their jobs.
They have children at home.
That is an issue because then I can't live life.
I want to live with him because we're at different places in our lives.
I don't think the age matters per se.
I mean, your whole situation is different, Susan,
because he's long distance.
That's a whole other conversation.
I just think if it's going well for you, Gloria,
then don't worry about what other people say.
If those other things, if jobs and responsibilities
and, you know, taking care of parents or young kids,
if those things aren't an issue, you go, girl.
Susan, Kathy, I just went on a date with a woman who was 71 years old.
And if I showed you the picture, you would not believe it.
Exactly. Exactly.
Like, I just don't.
Like, the age thing.
It's just a number.
That's right.
And 58-year-old man and a 58-year-old woman, night and day.
Some men look older than 58 at 58.
And some women do, too, just to be fair.
But he could be a used to guy.
I mean, you never know.
Oh, that you sound like.
I love you, C.K. You listen.
Gloria, thanks so much for sharing that with us.
And you know what?
There's no such thing as setting yourself.
up for heartbreak. You're enjoying this ride here, this moment. You may last forever and you may not.
Stop worrying about what could happen and enjoy the moments. Gosh, Susan, that's some of the best
advice you've ever given. Listen to it, Gloria. Okay, moving on. We have one more here.
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This is from Kathy from Raleigh, so not this Kathy, Kathy from Raleigh, North Carolina.
I checked my husband's phone for the first time in 10 years of marriage and found messages that absolutely crushed me.
Nothing physical, but enough to know he was seeking attention from other women.
He says the bigger betrayal is that I invaded his privacy.
Is checking someone's phone ever justified if your gut tells you something is wrong?
What do you think, C.K.?
I don't, yeah, yeah.
I think if it resorts to checking someone's phone or going through someone's
tech messages and emails, I think that's problematic in within itself.
It's just issue.
Although, although, they were met.
So that's exactly it, Susan.
They were married for 10 years and all of a sudden she's going through the phone.
Yeah, I'm thinking she was sniffing something, right?
Yeah.
What would you say, CK.?
What if your girlfriend went through your phone?
That would be a problem.
Well, you.
Men?
And if you went, would you go through her phone if you had a phone?
I would never go through her phone because you know what?
You know what, Kathy, Susan?
I'm going to find something.
something that's going to be questionable.
And then it gets into my head and I can't get it out.
Yes, that's right.
And I'm a firm believer, not that I want that to happen, but what I don't know,
don't hurt me.
It said he liked attention from other women.
A lot of people, I love attention, you know, maybe.
It's not like I'm a cheater because I like attention.
Yeah.
And I'm flirtatious.
It doesn't mean I act on it.
People judge you because you're friendly, right?
I think there's the difference.
I personally think there's a difference.
CK., you and I talk all the time,
and if some woman went through your phone,
she might say, who is this Kathy girl?
Who is this Kathy girl?
What the hell?
You talk to her like three times this week.
Yeah.
But really, I was talking to Susan.
We can't count that one.
That's right.
I called Kathy and Susan took over the conversation.
Pretty much.
You know what, though, thank you everyone for submitting these questions.
Like, I love talking about this stuff because a lot of people are afraid to say something
and they're going through the same exact thing.
So please feel comfortable.
You don't even have to put your name down.
You can put anonymous.
And to do that, you go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour.
And you can keep checking in to see if we're talking about your question.
Yeah, that's a really good point, Susan.
And the question that you have is probably a hundred other people are wondering the same thing.
So please write in.
We love hearing from you.
All right.
Today, we are going to play, you're going to love this one, C.K.
We're going to play three rounds of final rows, fantasy suites, or send home night one.
So with a woman's name, you'd either give her the final rose, you'd take her to the fantasy suite,
and we all know what happens in the fantasy suites, or send her home night one.
and we all know what that looks like.
Okay.
Susan,
go ahead with the first one here.
No,
that's okay, baby.
Oh, sorry.
I have my own.
I put my own in there.
Yes, Susan did.
I'm keeping it real here.
All right, C.K.
Cameron Diaz.
Hallie Berry.
Oh.
Jennifer Lopez.
Put them in order.
Final rose fantasy sweets or send him night one.
Woo.
Jennifer Lopez gets the final rose.
Okay.
Okay.
Keep going.
Cameron Diaz, night one.
Sorry.
Oh.
Okay.
Well, we know we're Hallie Berry.
Yes, Hallie.
So, wait, you're taking her to the fantasy suite?
I am.
Yes.
All right.
He's got the guy likes a one-night stance.
Okay.
Forgive me, everybody, but I have my own personal names that I'm going to throw out there.
All right.
We have Nancy and April.
from our season of Golden Bachelor and Monica B.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Oh my God.
We may have stayed up late night sticking this one up.
I'm going through a tunnel.
I can't hear you wait.
If you refuse to answer it, I can move on.
But I thought that would be.
Yeah, we thought it would be fine.
Okay, can I, I'll give you this one.
Yes.
Unfortunately, April night one.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Sorry, April.
No, it's just about a chemistry.
It's what you like.
It doesn't mean you don't like her because we know you do.
Okay.
You always ask about her.
I want to get to the other two.
Okay.
Nancy and Monica B.
Well, okay.
So Nancy and I have this thing about, I'm going to say this,
Nancy with the conversation room and then Monica B with the fire room.
Wait a second.
Nancy's not a conversation room.
Nancy would be the fantasy suite.
Do you know what?
Some people, Kathy, don't go all the way in the fantasy suite.
they say. I'm not buying that, but okay. So let me.
Nancy and I had a long conversation about the conversation room. So she hears this.
She'll know. She'll understand. Okay. So you and Nancy are going to have a very long
overnight conversation. Monica B is getting the final rose. Is that what you said?
Yeah. You guys. You put me in a predicament. Why are you dwelling on it? Kathy,
already said it. You're going to reiterate. I just want to make sure. All over again.
I just want to make sure the guy who said they're finally broken.
up is now given to the final rose, which means Susan that he's going to give Monica
be the final rose on the final episode. And then three months later, they're broken up. Okay,
I got it. We're moving on here. Next names are fun, too. I'm curious about the next three.
Okay. We've got Jennifer Aniston, Kim Kardashian, and Sophia Vergara.
Very well said, Kath. I couldn't say that. Unfortunately, Kim Gundashian, I got to say
Night one.
Okay.
Fair enough.
All right.
Jennifer Aniston and Sophia Vergara.
Sophia gets the final roles and Jennifer gets the fantasy.
Oh, I thought it would be Sophia in the fantasy suite.
I'm just saying, who am I?
You know, which is we've got to be careful someday they're going to make us do this.
I might have two in the fantasy suite.
I'm just saying.
And I'm taking two.
two home too. I got two roses.
Susan, I like how you think.
I'm telling you. I have not stopped smiling since I looked at your face.
You were such a pleasure to have.
Wait, I want to know where I'm going to be.
If you get two roses, two fantasy streets, what do I get?
You get to send them all home on night before.
You can do that part.
Exactly. I get nothing.
Okay.
Thank you so much for joining us. We love having you.
I just love talking to you.
you. I like being in your presence and I can dress up very, very nice. Oh, stop trying to bribe in season.
I'm not bribing. I'm putting this straight out. I've tried. It doesn't work.
Look, I tell Kathy all the time that every time I see you all on a red carpet, wherever you guys are, you are dressed to the nine. I mean, just.
We love that. Well, C.K., I'm going to see you soon because I'm coming out with a bunch of other Goldens and some of the young ones from Bachelor.
We're coming out. We're going to walk at UCLA.
for the suicide prevention walk, which is near and dear to my heart and Leslie and some other people.
So, and you have, as you are, the consummate host, are putting together a dinner for all of us,
Goldens and Bachelor people.
So I'm really excited to see you.
It's going to be great.
Well, it's not just a dinner.
Kathy, it's not just a dinner.
We're going to ask you turn up in Beverly Hills, so look for you.
Damn.
Can't they change the date so I could come?
Yes, we'll get on that right now.
to have UCLA changed the date for you since I'm performing a wedding so I can't be there all right well if you
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