Bachelor Happy Hour - Crazy Holiday Drama | Golden Hour

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

The holidays can be a lot, and today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are talking through the things that can make this time of year tricky. From family dynamics and awkward conversations to managing expectations and stress during the holidays, they’re sharing honest thoughts and real-life perspective. They also talk about adjusting traditions, setting boundaries, and finding small ways to enjoy the season without pressure.If the holidays feel exciting, overwhelming, or somewhere in between, you've come to the right place! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us today. We are so excited to be back for another episode of Golden Hour. How are you doing today, Susan? I am great. I am trying to rush the clock. You know how I pack. right? I'm traveling next week. I have something very exciting coming up. And I just have to try everything on when I pack. Like it's a crazy time. And now snowstorm's supposed to come tomorrow. And they're changing it hour by hour. So have you noticed? So we're both doing some traveling. The holidays are upon us. We've got a lot to do aside from all the other things that we do in our life, you know, the presents, the shopping, all that stuff.

In your case, the house cleaning. Oh, wait, you do that every day anyway. I'm cooking. Cooking. You keep forgetting. Baking. Not cooking for me. No, me.

But I just find, I find every year, like, you're going to die. All my gifts except for one granddaughter, my one granddaughter, are wrapped under the tree. I'm done. Except for my one. Mine aren't under the tree. They're wrapped, but they're in the attic. Well, I don't have. Come over and visit.

I don't want them to see them. Right. Well, you know, I live alone and no one's coming to visit me. so they just parked themselves under the tree. But I don't know. Are you feeling, I mean, look, Christmas is less than a week away. Are you ready? I believe so.

Are you? I believe so because I am wrapped. I've been wrapped since the first because I had to travel this month. And I'm gone for 11 days or no, the 4th to the 15th. That's not 11. But I had to prepare so early. But what stresses me out, I still have to bake cookies.

I'm going to a cookie exchange tomorrow. So tonight, when we've done this, I'm going to be baking cookies. Okay, wait. I have to tell you what my daughter's doing this year. I'm sure she saw it on Pinterest because she lives there. I think it's actually tomorrow we're doing it. It's a hooky cookie day. The kids...

Cookie cookie? Well, hookie cookie, which is... I like it. Take off of work. Take off of work. Everyone stays home. kids are already out of school for Christmas, so we're going to all get together and we're going to bake cookies. And I think that is so fun because we're going to eat them on Christmas

Day anyway. So why not get together, you know, make them as a family. I think that is so, and she's going to invite some friends and stuff too. They're coming as well. I do it with my sisters every single year and that's coming up. However, usually I have my sister day and my nieces all come and my daughter-in-law. It's a great day. And we start with mimosas. But they, pick my house, the fun house, if you will. But they have the bigger ovens. I have a wall oven and my oven is not that big. You've got to see the mess, the flour, the sprinkles. Darling, no, it's a complete sentence. Hey, we're going to do it in your house this year. Yeah, see, so stop bitching and moaning because you, you don't, it's tradition. I couldn't imagine having

to pack all the ingredients and bring them over there. Let them get the ingredients. All right. Now, so today we're going to get into the holidays. Let's cover some things. Let's dive in. Our first topic is, how do you deal with grief during the holidays? And how does grief manifest for you, Kathy, during the holiday season? Okay. Well, you just burst my holiday bubble here. I'm sorry. That's all right. For me, you know, a week out I'm doing okay the month of December really from Thanksgiving on it's tough for me

why because as I decorated the Christmas tree taking out those ornaments I remember the stories that go with the ornaments when we bought them I hear Christmas music certain songs that my husband loved we play those but I think

I know it's tough for my kids this year, I found myself crying at sort of odd times, and so I'll see if I can get through this. My husband's grandmother, so it would be my son's great-grandmother, I believe, built, made a nativity set and built the crash, the whole bit, ceramics, you know, painted them, and it's been handed down and this year and see if my husband were here we'd have it out but this year um i gave the nativity set so it's my son's uh great grandmother i gave it to him and he sent me a picture of he and his daughter so that's the next generation put the nativity set out and you know that's that's it's it's sad and and and happy at the same time

I think the way I deal with grief at the holidays is allow myself to be sad, you know, when I am. That's what I was going to say. Allow yourself that moment or a few moments. But grief also a lot of times this time of the year, people pass. You've said that. People pass, Susan, 365 days a year. I don't know why you say that. Look it up, Kathy.

I believe you. I've just never heard that. It is a fact. During the holiday season, don't ask me why. God works in mysterious ways. I don't know. But it is a fact. And it strikes people, we say, at the worst times because they're busy.

But I think it actually is shocking when something happens suddenly, when it's not a sickness that you've watched somebody go. But you've got to get back because the holidays are here, you can't just sit and just say, forget the holiday this year. I've done that. I did that. You did? Yes. Well, like at Thanksgiving, you still want to give thanks for you being here. No, no.

Now I'm better. But, oh, don't kid yourself. The first few years after my husband died, it was brutal. I couldn't get through the holiday fast enough. I literally. And I allowed myself to do that. So you faked it to you mate? No, I didn't.

I did that first year. Honestly, I don't even remember. But I know I didn't sell. You didn't have Christmas? You didn't do dinner with your children or anything? Well, I know my one, my daughter went to her boyfriend's home. I think my two, I don't remember. I know that my daughter wasn't here. It's such a blank. But, you know, we're talking about grief when losing a partner. But there's other kinds of grief, I think, that manifests during the holidays. And, you know, people who have been through loss of a child, people who have, have had a divorce. You know, there are a lot, there's a lot of grief to go around. So I don't know.

It could be anybody's sad during a certain time, but how you deal with it is important. Well, how do you deal with free? How do you deal with it? Your sadness. I mean, I know you're not sad about your divorce because you guys are good friends, but have you ever been sad? I'm sad that my mom and dad aren't here anymore. And my brothers, both of my brothers. I've met. I'm sad. I'm sad. I'm sad that my mom and dad aren't here anymore. I miss them and I talk about it like they were right you know still part of our family they are and as a matter of fact dicky was here for Thanksgiving and when we do the grace I make everybody say something they're grateful for yeah and normally we mention all the names and dicky goes should we mention I said they're getting long that we don't have that much time the food's going to get cold but that's who's in my mind

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and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming.

My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If I'm being honest, the holidays are not the same to me. because I don't have that special person to share them with. However, I have young grandchildren. That's what makes it.

Although Christmas is not, if you're a Christian, it's not about the gift giving. That's not the meaning of the season. But to see the magic through a child's eyes, I will say, last month, you know, I was in New York for Thanksgiving, and we went out the day after Thanksgiving with my son-in-law's whole family. We cut the tree down.

It was snowing. It was right. We had hot chocolate. It was right out of a Norman Rockwell painting. And I will say, I loved it. And I plastered a smile on my face. But honestly, Susan, I kept thinking, I was so sorry. My husband wasn't there to see his granddaughter, who was so excited by the snow and the

Christmas tree and the Santa Claus that was there. you know um so it's tough you're right you're right when you say it's about looking at the little ones and them getting so excited i know we i don't know when we're going to do this gosh but we drive around and look at the christmas lights and you know you have snacks and hot chocolate yeah but it's it's it's it's about the traditions and i think i think um you know my advice to anyone who is is feeling grief and sadness during the holidays it's a very normal feel and allow yourself to feel it and just you know the new year brings a new year and it's just about that simple okay we got to talk about family drama that's where I was going family drama

because there is family drama if your family doesn't have drama in the holidays you don't have a family that's what I'm saying what advice do you give I mean I will tell you I have to tell you a quick story because that's these are the things that make our podcast one year we were had invited some friends i can't believe i did this actually in retrospect i can't believe i'm admitting to it but two of my three kids they were like teenagers they had meltdowns i mean doors were slammy it was ugly um and friends were coming for dinner and the table was set and i can't even tell you um i called them and said you can't come never realizing they had no food for like i didn't think of that no you don't understand you don't understand

Stan, it was drama with a capital D-R-A-M-A. And I was... Between each other, the kids, or... It was, it was a family colossal drama scene. And I just, I started crying and I said, I can't do it. I went upstairs, put on my pajamas, got it in bed. I mean, it was... You canceled it the day of?

Oh, about two hours before they were coming. Oh, my God. And I didn't think, that's how bad it was, Susan, because you know me. I would never do that. I baked. We had all the food ready. I don't even think we, I don't even know. It was that it was the I want to know what caused the drama. My kids, something happened. I'm very good at blocking things. I don't remember. But I think I think the best thing. What do you do like do? Does your family all get along? What advice do you have for anyone that wants to distance themselves? Do it. Well, distance themselves from the drama. That means if you're not comfortable, don't go. Don't go. Don't go.

Don't go. If there's bullshit going on, stay away from it. I don't want it to ruin my time. But if it is in your immediate family, like your child, you can't help it. You've got to be involved. We try to settle it. But any words we have is not going to. They've got to get through it, whatever the drama is.

Well, we didn't. We didn't. She just canceled dinner. We just canceled dinner. And fa la la la, la. Merry Christmas. I know. I really felt badly about that. I think that what I do now, well, I don't have to anymore because my kids are adults

and we haven't, but what. They have a meltdown. You have it at your own damn house. Well, what I would, the advice I would give, not that anyone's asking, tell your, you know, cousin Joe and Uncle Herbert, who's ever rolling in, say, this is what we're doing. Like, tell them ahead of time what the expectations are. For example, don't be surprised, Uncle Joe, when you come, I know that, you know, a roasted turkey is your tradition, but this year we're doing steaks on the grill, like tell them ahead of time so that there's no, and try to warn people, if you will, set them up, set your holidays up for success, set expectations early, which I didn't do, you understand, but now if I could go back and do it, that would be what I would do. this is what we're doing this year I don't want any complaints

I don't want any criticism we might have a family meeting about it like no mom we really want to have okay we'll do a turkey breast but we're not you know what I'm saying like do that you're still going to have this it's what you want to do so I have a good question Kathy do you ever think it's too early

to give a gift in a relationship like how long should you be with somebody to do a gift giving say for instance if you're dating just a couple of months, do you not give a gift? Let me start by saying,

I do expect a gift from you, and we're not in a relationship. You got one week, get it together. Better be in my mailbox. I think, again, that is a personal decision. If I were dating a man for two months at Christmas,

in other words, if I started dating a guy in October, here we are, I would expect some kind of gift of Christmas. I would. However, I don't think there's any hard and fast rules. I really don't. What do you think? Would you, of course, well, I'm a, I'm a giver. I like surprising people with it. And it doesn't have to be something of value, but something that I just like to give something to put a smile on somebody's face. It could be $17, you know. It could be $5. It doesn't matter. I will tell you when people come to my home Christmas,

they get a little gift. I love doing that. I don't do that. There's too many. Well, I exchange with everybody that comes. So, yeah, they're getting gifts. Well, there's other ways around that, too. You can do whatever they call it, a blue Santa, a white Santa,

you know, where you're going to do that this year. Where you draw names. So you don't have to buy for every. Our family's got really big. I mean, I think, listen, you know, people, if you want to know my tips for gift giving it's if you come from a large family do what is it called i can't think of the name but you pauliana but i guess it's a white elephant or something draw names um i i always buy for the young children but in our family i mean i was one of seven kids so um once we got to be adults and had

kids ourselves we stopped all that and just gave for the kids i think that you know there's i love the idea of something that means something to the person. If it's a craft, if it's a gift certificate for a facial, if it's a, you know, you can do things that aren't expensive. It's expensive to live in this world now. Give your kids a coupon for a night of babysitting. You know, there's all kinds of things like that. Give your, your kids could give their parents, I'll mow the yard for you. I'll rake the leaves. That never happens. The promises can be broken. That's not a gift.

Something they should just offer. Well, I'm just saying gifts are expensive. But I'm talking about relationships. Like if you're dating somebody, doesn't it depend on how often you've seen it if it's a once a week, a dinner or something, and

you're not getting together through the holidays on Christmas? You're going to be with your family. He's going to be with his. So you're not really going to see each other. You're asking, if I were in a relationship, yes, I would be buying a gift. That guy I dated for a while, a few years ago, we were dating over Christmas. I always buy a gift.

Did you ever not receive one in return? And how did that make you feel? From a guy? No, because I've told you, other than my husband, who always gave me the most thoughtful, lovely gifts, he was an incredible gift giver. um and i love that that's something i miss where we would talk about uh what we were going to get the kids and you know all those little things that i that that i don't get to do anymore with him um even talking about it see this makes me sad this is it just no it's okay i think but i think

if you're in a relationship i think it's i here's what i wouldn't do here's what i wouldn't do if i were in a relationship let's say like you said a two-month relationship i'd have the conversation first with my partner, my date. Are we going to have, are we exchanging? How do you approach that conversation? Oh, I would, me? I would say, Joe, I would like to exchange guests. I would like to get you a gift this year. Are you, you know, I'm going to, or I might even say, I'm going to get you a gift this year just so you know. You don't have to get me one, but I'm a gift giver and I, I enjoy making people smile with, gifts, and I do. I usually give more gifts than I receive holidays. And if he said, no, I have no

intentions of getting you a gift, I would still give the gift, and I'd be on the dating sites the next day. I don't think anybody would say it. I wish they would bring it up. You wish the guy would bring it up? Yeah. Do you want to do exchange? Because I know a lot of married people that don't exchange at all. Okay, you know, you're begging the question here. Are you in Frederica exchanging guests this? I don't know. I know I'm going to buy something. Okay, friends, real talk. You are worth the wait. We've all been there, giving our energy to connections that didn't honor ours, and watching friends do the same. And honestly, we all deserve better. That's why Bumble is built for intentional dating. Safety is such a big deal for us all,

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32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the calls. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind, and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about.

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For me, sky's limit. Okay. All right. Have you ever, so my father was Jewish. And, you know, I have my Christmas trapper. I have my menorah, which I'm having trouble with the candles. Thank God it's only one at a time. Did you, with your husband or boyfriend or anybody, have you merged traditions during the holidays?

So I have friends that were Jewish, and I tried to acknowledge theirs and do their thing, but not in my house. Everybody that has come here has all been Christian, or not. Same tradition. Yeah. Well, we, like I said, I grew up in a almost completely Jewish neighborhood. And so I would go to my friend's house and on Hanukkah. And, you know, they, most of my friends did not have Christmas trees. A few of them did.

They called them Hanukkah bushes, which I loved. But my dad, my mother was Christian and my father was Jewish. So he loved, nobody celebrated Christmas more or loved Christmas more than my dad. But again, not the true meaning that Christians assign. No, just the decorations in the presents. Well, isn't Hanukkah you get a gift, I think, seven days? Well, people do it differently. It's festival of the lights.

It goes on for seven days. Usually people get the biggest gift the first night. Some people get the biggest and then they get little gifts the rest of the time. But it's not like us that you have 45 presents under the tree for all the kids. We didn't do it that way. But, you know, I don't have the book of Jewish holidays open on my lap here how they celebrate. Right, but usually it's the big gift is the first night and then just little gifts. And do you go to synagogue the first night?

No, no. Hanukkah is not a religious holiday. It's festival of the lights. It's a, it's not, it's not like Rush Hashanah, Yon Kippur, any of the serious high Jewish holidays. It's a fun Jewish holiday. So it's not, it's very different from Christmas, which is one of the, obviously, one of the Christians' highest holidays. And where did I, how did we get on to this religious? track we got to move on here i don't know i well we're mixing traditions we are like um i don't know

most of my friends all have the same and everybody i've ever dated i think celebrated christmas so i didn't ever merge their traditions it's our tradition oh okay here's a good one the seven fishes like the italians yeah really celebrate christmas eve with the seven fishes and I used to do it. My grandmother did it. My mom skipped. It was always my nana and then I started to do it and the kids didn't like the fish. And you know, I was in Texas too and inviting people, friends and neighbors and all. No one was appreciating it. Yeah, I've heard it's a lot of work. Yeah. I will tell you. I believed in it. It was something about good luck for the year. So Lottie, my girlfriend and Ray do it every year. Well, good. Tell him. Tell them. Tell

Lottie. I need some of her luck, please. I will say the simple traditions that we have merged, my husband loved certain kinds of pies. He liked certain kind of dressing. I grew up with a different dressing on the turkey. And so those kinds of things, what we did, we initially made both of them. Over time, we sort of got away from having to have his or my. We would one year do his, one year do mine. That's how we sort of merged it. And then our kids, as the kids came along, they really, they really were like, Mom, we really want your eggnog bread. We don't really care about your cranberry nut bread kind of thing.

So that's how that's, we don't like it. Stop making it. So that, you know, that's how our traditions change. But what is your favorite dish on Christmas? Food. What is your favorite food dish? I love a hand. I don't make turkey.

Pardon me? Not to make, to eat. I like everything, but I don't like turkey. So I struggle on Thanksgiving, and I make a 25-pound beautiful bird, and then I thank God I don't have to eat it again until next year. And so what's your favorite dish? What is at the ham? I like them.

I love ham, but my scuttle soup, and then we have the raviolis, but this year I'm breaking it up, and I'm not telling anybody. they would have a heart attack. The traditions. But we're doing stuffed shells this year. I like, can I, I might pop over for those. Yes, yes. And then I have the meat to go in the gravy, the spaghetti sauces, you guys call it, but it's gravy in my house.

And I'll have pork and sausage and meatballs. And then we have the ham. Wait, your meal is so different. I'm sorry. Your meal is so different from ours. It's a traditional Italian Christmas. You have soup. your escarole soup

but your husband was not Italian he that's what we did he don't eat cheese so the man I have to do a side of homemade spaghetti he'd have his own spaghetti unbelievable we did the same that's so funny our tradition was doing the same

like I you know no Christmas and Thanksgiving the menu is almost exactly the same but as you know I love to bake and so every year I made homemade pecan pie, homemade pumpkin ice cream pie. Yeah, but that's all the fun, good stuff, the desserts, but what was the main meal?

I'm telling you, it was turkey. And I think one year, my husband, a couple years towards the end, he did a crown roast, a crown roast, what's it called? A crown roast, you know, beef, crown roast. And I mean, because he loved to cook. And we did that a few times. I honestly think traditions are meant to be broken. And I know that sounds crazy.

I like bringing in some new surprises every year. Well, you still have your traditional stuff. Tradition to me is everybody being here on that day and everybody having the soup and the pasta, the Italian part, and whether it's a ham or a turkey, that's tradition. That's how we do it. Okay, so how you do it, I'm going to ask you,

and I want to say, you know what I'm always joking around here, but I want a serious answer for this one, Susan. if you if frederic if he lived you know wherever I mean doable not in St. Martin if he lived close enough and he said I want you to come to Christmas

at my house with my he has two kids with my two children this year and and and we're I'm making it up now you know I live on the island whatever we're going to have you know shrimp barbecue I don't know would you do that? Would you? I would never leave my children on Christmas. I would do it on Thanksgiving or

Easter or New Year's, but I won't leave on Christmas. You would not. Oh, interesting. It's a big day here. It's a big, oh, are you kidding me? It's a big day here. It's always was. Well, not me. I'll leave the day after. So you, so I would, I would celebrate. If I found the person who loved me and I loved, I would absolutely, if he said it means a lot to me to celebrate, I'm assuming. mean, he has kids. I'm making this up, obviously. Yeah, but we're adults. We're golden. His kids are older. My kids are older. I'm talking about now. Would you ever travel for Christmas and not be with your children?

Not with their significant other or with somebody you're in love with. Would you just take a vacation and just not be there on Christmas? You mean leave without a reason to leave? I think I'll go to Egypt for Christmas. You're planning your vacation and it happens to be. No, no, no. But if I were dead and someone seriously, not just a casual date, but if I were, dating someone seriously and he said Kathy I would love for you to come to my home I'm making it up don't have the guy but maybe maybe I'm manifesting it in Naples because my children are coming this year and I would love yeah maybe in every other year yeah I would do that I would do that but but where

I was going with that is would you be willing to give up then you're not having the escrow of the soup you're not yeah whatever they're serving I'm eating so you'd be okay with that yeah and I come home and do mine. I think a lot of people do one or the other, like every other year. Like this year, we'll do your place for Thanksgiving, mine for Christmas, and the following year we'll switch it up. Like, that's doing. Is there, and I'm being honest, is there something wrong with me?

Maybe I'm just in La La Land. If I met the guy that I was, that I just couldn't wait to wake up next to and he felt the same way, sometimes I think I'm like living in a dream world, but I, and you, call me a hopeless romantic no i'm hopeful romantic you're hopeless there's a difference um i would and you know i have all my my stuff decorated and i i'm my kids you know i've already started the baking i've got a few more things left to cook a couple of pies that you know i can't do till you know just before um i would i would so do it and and well how would you tell your children that i'm going Well, you've got to remember.

I said if it were a serious relationship. So theoretically, I've known this guy more than two months. Yeah, so they would understand. I would say, you know, I don't know why I was using the name Joe, but, you know, Joe has asked me to come to his home on the, you know, on the ocean in Hawaii. Let's think big here. And so I'm going to go to Hawaii for Christmas and kids, let's pick a day and we'll celebrate Christmas before I go or after I come back and we're going to FaceTime on Christmas, my kids would be fine

with it. Yeah, they would. And your grandkids. Well, because here's the thing, all your kids, like, you're the hub. Everyone comes to your house. Everyone used to come to my house. When my husband was alive, we did the party, the Christmas China, the crystal, the silver, the whole nine yards. We did all the cooking. Occasionally, my daughter, I think, would bring aside, but they were younger, right now now um you go there last i honestly my memory is bad since my husband died i i struggle to remember each year but like this year we're going to my daughters and she's got the china she takes over she's oh she loves christmas she's she got that for me she loves the decorating so she's got the menu all made out i know what i'm bringing my my son knows what he's bringing and um i kind of it's like

passing the baton, which you have not done. And I waited for one of my children to do this, and it's not happening. But my daughter-in-law, my Christopher's wife, I was surprised when she said, you're coming Thanksgiving, right? Because it's just a norm, you know? And she goes, Mom, no, they just had a new kitchen put in, new bathrooms. They redid their whole house. She goes, I'm doing my first Thanksgiving. And she goes, I didn't think you would come. And I said, I would come. I said, I won't do Christmas. She goes, well, we'll be at your house all day Christmas. I understand, but I would come.

I've been doing it my whole entire life. I know, but you know what, Susan? My advice that you're not asking for is start thinking about passing the baton so that your children can start building those memories with their children. That's it. I'm going to go next year, so I had to tell other people that come to my house for every holiday. my sisters and their people. And I said to them, you know, I was kind of torn when she said that.

And my sister said, don't be. That's your family. Yeah. Go. Next year we'll go out. Nobody cooks. I swear. I swear.

The story dropped you. I swear to God. Do you know what I think about, though? That's the time that all my nieces and their significant others and my sisters and my brother-in-law are all in one house. Yeah. That's what I look forward. Before we end this, we're going to wrap it up here in a second, but I just thought of one

of the biggest, it just occurred to me, truly, you, this is where you live where you grew up. You're, I mean, a few miles from where you grew up. All your kids live there, except for your daughter, your sisters lived there. I grew up outside of Boston, Massachusetts. I grew up in Newton, Massachusetts. I got married when I turned 20, and except for a few. years when I went home with the kids and my husband for Christmas in Boston, I have not, my Christmas was my family. That is my husband, my three children. No, I just realized that's a big

difference. And then my in-laws, may God rest their weary souls, would come, they would rotate among their three children. And so every third year they would come and spend Christmas with us. But they wouldn't stop in the morning or anything. Like if you weren't going to the parents, house, we go for like a quick bronch. No, no, the parents didn't live here. That's what I'm saying. The parents, that's what I'm saying. We lived in Houston. We lived in Austin. We lived in Georgia. We lived in different places. So we made Christmas our tradition. I don't know where that, so I get it. It's a little more difficult for you. And I'm sure for lots of families, it's more difficult. But you know what? We could talk all day about this. It's coming very, very soon.

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