Bachelor Happy Hour - Daisy, Rachel & Kaity — Our ‘Bachelor’ Fantasy Team!

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Daisy Kent, Rachel Nance, and Kaity Biggar to discuss Fantasy Suites! The three “Bachelor” icons made their on-screen return to help Grant’s women navigate overnights and we’re getting the inside scoop! We get into their conversations and where they expected overnights to go for each of their girls. Then, we hear their thoughts on the season overall and how they would handle overnights if they were the leads. Plus, we get some very exciting updates from each of the women — “Paradise”? Marriage? Babies? Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you. How's everyone doing? Good. It's hard. It's hard. It's so hard. It's hard when there's so many of us. Three people on Zoom, bear with us.

Daisy, last time we saw you was in the Bachelor Mansion. Yes. That was the first time I met you, actually. I know. I felt like I had met you guys before, but we hadn't in real life. Now every time I see you, I'm going to think of Jimmy Johns because I met you while you were eating Jimmy Jones. Yeah. What?

Yeah. So hungry. And so I stopped on the way before we, like, got to the limo. that took us there and I was like scarfing down jimmy johns oh my god yeah well you and the reason i i remember it is because you like called it out you're like sorry i'm scarfing down jimmy johns i'm like do your thing live your life live your life rachel where are you you're in hawaii right now uh i just got back to la last night so back in the city life nice you were in the philippines yes i went to visit my family surprise my grandma in the philippines so how long were you there for

you're there for like 12 days but it's like three days of travel so it's like you lose because we have to take like a 15 hour flight and then a 10 hour drive so it's like you kind of 10 hour drive because we're like live the north part so we just take a 10 hour drive grandma didn't want to meet you like halfway 96 okay that's fair she can she can chill she's done enough she's like this oh she's tired yeah I don't blame her I'd be tired Katie, you're in Austin, yeah? Yes. What do you think about Austin? I love it. I mean, the summers are really freaking hot, but I mean, coming from Canada where it was like so freaking cold and like rainy some days, like Austin, it's like majority of the

time, blue, clear skies, nice and warm. So that's what I like. So I'm planning my brothers, my brother's getting married this year and we're doing his bachelor party in Austin the first week of June. So how hot are we talking? Like, terrible? You're going to be hot, but it's good that you're not coming July or August. So I'll say that.

You guys are definitely going to want to rent out like a barge, like a party boat and go on the water. I would be close to a body of water because I feel like men are notoriously like more sweaters and hotter people. Okay. So I would go to like body water. A bunch of sweaty guys. back is always complaining about sweat and like all this whereas like sometimes I'm like a little bit cooler so I don't know I I just make sure that you have a body of water at some point during the trip no that's a good idea yeah you should definitely do a boat day yeah that is that is a good idea okay I'm actually going to need like some restaurant wrecks too but we can't talk about that now this is a bachelor podcast yeah let's talk about the bachelor real quick thoughts on grant season overall I will start with who wants to go first rachel go um well i think she's like i fucking hate it

actually no i guess it's different from like not watching the show to being on it and then to having a season after to be able to watch it all unfold it's so weird and i'm so happy it's not me anymore crying um it's actually so scary but um I think, I mean, I think it's going good thus far, right? Is that what you say? I mean, is that what you think? What's your opinion? Well, I mean, I know Grant is nice and he's great.

And like, obviously I know the final three girls. So he definitely has a hard decision to make. But it's just a different, it's just so different seeing it from the outside. After he's living it. So I think. the season is great the women seem nice the drama seemed um why why was it there but yeah i don't know it's a hard question to well it's so interesting because rachel and daisy this is the first season of the bachelor since you guys were on it right so that's always a bit of a trip but katie you're

now two seasons removed so how's it been watching it back for you you're going to be honest I haven't really gotten into grant season. I've just been kind of watching, you know, what's said on TikTok and Reddit a little bit. And obviously I have grown a friendship with Latia post filming with her. So I also hear a little bit of her side on things. But I did watch this past like the Fantasy Suite episode. And I think he's, I think he's in a bind.

It's clear. I'll be honest, I think just based on that episode, he just seems lost and it's getting a little messy. So I'm very interested to see the next episode and who he chooses. But at the end of the day, I just hope he follows his heart and chooses the right girl. Do you see any of Zach in him in this current stage? No? Okay. What do you feel like the biggest differences are?

No, because Zach wasn't saying he was in love with Gabby. be at this point and if he did that would be a different conversation that we were having um yes he got intimate with somebody but i think i'm in love with you and having a physical you know chemistry with somebody is different yeah so yeah i if i was another girl like who he doesn't choose i think i would have a hard time dealing with that and definitely having conversations post yeah okay okay so Rachel thinks it's going good. Katie doesn't watch the show. Wait, wait, wait.

Daisy, what's your opinion so far on the season? I have enjoyed watching it. I feel like he, I feel like he's doing a really good job, but I think now it is getting messy, and I'm interested to see the finale and, like, what goes down. Because I don't know. I just feel like it might be a little bit messy on, like, his part, but we'll see how it ends up.

but that's just what I'm like gauging from the last episode because like what katie was saying it is kind of like you don't really you can tell he's really confused which the scenario is not normal and you i feel like there's no right or wrong way to do it especially when you have all that pressure and everything going on so i think going through it and like having been through it to like that stage i like get how like sometimes like things can be said and like not said and things can happen and you just you like for me I try not to think too much into it um but I definitely like I'm very thankful for how Joey handled the whole situation um so I don't know it's just it's weird like what Rachel was saying but I feel like it might be getting a little

bit messy Katie if you were the lead and you're down to your final three men how do you think you would handle I love views or just fantasy sweet week in general with all the emotions and the physical intimacy. And Rachel and Daisy, prep your, prep your answers because you're, I'm going to ask you. We're coming for you. I think it's so hard. I mean, obviously, Zach didn't handle it great. I don't think I would, you know, take away somebody's agency, basically what Ariel said,

and like just say, hey, sex is off the table because some people need that. But for me, I genuinely would just like listen to my. gut. For me, I haven't been like, like just my background. I'm not somebody who needs physical intimacy. I thrive off of emotional intimacy. So personally, I don't know if I would be physically intimate during fantasy suites. I think I would genuinely focus on gaining more clarity into who that person is. Morals, values, need to make sure that aligns. And then the rest comes. That's my... Do you declare it to them? Would you be like, this is off the table? I don't know. Again, I would like trust my gut. But if I really, really thought this man was

my everything, my future husband, then yeah, maybe I would, you know, dive into a physical intimacy. you know do that but like it's so hard to say i i like again i trust my gut and just go from there but i don't i know for a fact i would not have sex with multiple people period i also want to say i also want to want to want to jump in here real quick there there's a lot of like zach didn't do it well but like out of like the 30 something bachelors he's in a successful relationship so like right but i think katie and i know you katie you get credit you get credit there as well. But like, at least Zach was honest with himself. Like it may have been a little bit messy and he made some mistakes, but he was always like honest. And I think because of that,

it's worked out. But and I will say with that is that Zach is somebody who is a man of his word but some people need physical intimacy so therefore his decision was somewhat swayed yeah yeah that's like just trying to figure this out he's got three beautiful women in front of him and if one woman needs that then he's going to be like okay well like no let's figure this out it's hard when you're trying to lead the show as an independent but then also trying to act within a relationship and take your potential future partner's feelings into consideration at the same time as, like, leading the show and dating multiple women. But Rachel, how would you have handled Fantasy Sweet Week if you were the lead?

I wouldn't be intimate with any of them, and I wouldn't tell them because I would want them all to think they're going home. And they would all just be like, oh my gosh, like, bro. Like, I can picture them talking to the producer, be like, dude, we didn't do anything. I'm going home, all three of them. That's how I would be, too. I would want everyone to think that too. I want them all to think. You're scared.

Imagine a life without me, motherfucker. Yes, I want them all. She's in the booth at the Roar Ceremony. It's like, it's me. She's not giving me a rose. I want them all. So it's an equal game. So I've thought about this because my mom asked me it actually.

She was like, if it was you, what would you do? And if they were like, oh, are you just not being physically intimate with everyone? You can be like, I don't know. Just not tonight. I just feel like, I just feel like we're just not it right now. make them scared it's just scared that's so toxic but i like great she's walked away what if they're like oh my god this isn't me i got to go if they need sex and no no no like if even if you were like like if you scare them too much where they panic and leave you scare them too much and they go to the

producer like really not me i need to add or someone put a note like we need to talk and then just have a chat Kelsey Anderson Daisy what would you do i don't know i'm getting anxiety They're like, and we're never making Rachel the bachelorette, okay? She's going to put these men through hell. She's producing her old show. That would be the most dramatic season. Honestly, I just being like, yeah, no, I'm just fucking with them.

I'm the only single girl in the group. So it's like at this point make me a bachelorette because I can actually like bring her, like bring it back and do the bachel and have it be Rachel. You never know. You never know. You never know. All right, Daisy, what is your answer? I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics,

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents, and there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time

in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, Psychobabble.

Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to change.

Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog. will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA. Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha.

On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases, to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.

He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming. and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything.

Listen to shock incarceration on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my... my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called One. Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder take center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so for me, I think Fantasy Suites, I feel like it was really a time to, like, talk. And so I probably, if it was me in that scenario, I would use a lot just to, like, get to know them and like understand because there's a lot of things like you see like the TV show but there's a lot of things that like people don't know about you from the TV show like there's so much people

didn't know about me and so I feel like that time it's like really important to talk to that person because after that does come in engagement and I think when you get to that point and it's just you you can open up kind of on a deeper level and really gauge if it's like if that person is actually the person you want to be with forever and then sometimes you you can be like, oh, wait, like, I didn't know this. I didn't know this. And like, all this stuff kind of comes up. So I think then it starts making more sense after that, too.

And I feel like people don't always understand that part about it. Yeah, I feel like the audience and sometimes like, wait, they went into fantasy suites in one place and they came out in another, like what went down. And it's usually you just learned so much about the person and things are not aligned. But, okay, let's get into your chats with the current contestants. And let's go chronologically. So Rachel, you had your sit down chat with Zoe, walk us through all the things. And like, were you nervous going into it?

Like how much weight did you put on yourself? Because you could have potentially screwed her over. Oh, my God. I wouldn't even think about that. Did you think about that? Oh, you could. You could have said something that like really. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess we did see Leslie and Kelsey's chat.

Oh, yeah. That was one. Yeah, that was one. It really swayed her towards panic attack. No, I wasn't nervous at all. I was super excited when they asked me to go back and do that because I personally, I did love when Auntie Susan came to speak with me. It was a good break from everything that was going on in that week

while I was like, you know, when you're just like waiting around and stuff. However, I do like that they asked us three to talk to these three because I felt like there's like there's definitely a connection with like I've been where you're at I know how you're feeling and with Auntie Susan and I it was more of like an anti-town like talk to me about like you know how to be with a guy so I wasn't nervous but I definitely wanted to go in and just kind of say things that I wish I heard from one of my friends at that time is like that just to be sure of yourself and a good reminder that if it's not you then you're going to be fine and if it is you then you're also going to be fine like regardless of how it turns out you are there for a

reason. And I know when you get to fantasies, everyone's questioning themselves. Like, why am I here? Should I even be here? And you're thinking about all the time or lack of time you had with the lead. So I kind of went in just to encourage her and kind of gauge where she's at mentally because I think we're also in different spots because she didn't have a one-on-one. At least I had that. And so I know that Joy and I at the time had a connection about it didn't know where her and Grant were going into fantasy. It was a very different area for the both of us. So I hope when I told her helped her, but she seemed like very relaxed.

I think she needed to just vent to me and kind of get the jitters out herself. But that date she did have, maybe I want to drink that whole bottle of champagne because why was it the bride and groom shoot? I don't know that was a thing. The bride and groom shoot? I didn't know that was a thing. That was a date on my season, my season, the season I was on. Yeah.

and but it was like a group date oh like mine okay so overall how did you feel the conversation went with Zoe um I think it went well overall I think at first there was I felt like she had like a little bit of a wall um up before speaking with me and then of course my first thought was like I wonder if she thinks she's going to be in my position as in she's top three because I'm speaking to her right like do you think she knew that though Do you think she had watched? So she did watch because she did tell me. She was like, I'm really glad I'm talking to you because I do think we were in the same boat.

And then I did tell her, I said, we are in the same boat, but we kind of aren't because you didn't have a one-on-one. So you're actually in a worse position than I was in. So the attitude, so lose the fucking attitude because you're in a worse position than me. We're not the same. I'm just kidding. No, but yeah, that was my. feel like, oh, yes, we kind of are in the same position. And I did tell us, like, however, I had time.

So, you know, I don't know where it would level her nerves were at. But I think going into it, it was a little bit hard to kind of start the conversation. But once her wall was down, she was able to open up and vent about things and tell me how she's feeling. And we, you know, she has a past. Everyone has a past that kind of forces us to be a little bit withdrawn when it comes to relationships. so I was trying to just encourage her to go in and like just give it your all if it's your last time with him or your first quote date with him just you know be open to the possibility that it also could be you because anything could happen and change with anybody at any second

we've all seen it happen um so I think overall towards in it went well once we're able to kind to kind of get the ball rolling but I will say at first it was a little bit hard just to kind of gauge where we're at because that's our first time meeting and you're like don't really you know how people who are receptive of certain things. But yeah, I mean, she's super sweet. She's wonderful. So, you know, it'll all work out for how it's supposed to. When you left that conversation, what was your prediction on how Zoe's

journey may unfold if you were a betting woman? I'm actually even the conversation. And once I got to know a little bit more of where they're at, I think I knew that it probably, you know, may not be her. That's why I also tried to reassure her as much as possible because I think when you're in this whole world, all you know is the lead. So like in that moment, you think your whole life is this one person. And then you also don't see the other girls. So you think it's just you and them. And then when you get sent home, you're like, wait, but we just had this great time together. Um, so I kind of had a gut feeling that it may not be her. And I think she might have felt

that as well, kind of when we're saying goodbye, she said, she's like, yeah, you're right, I will be fine. So it's kind of like an understanding of where she was at. But I think she handled herself with such grace, you know, on her and her exit. Yeah. And I feel like you're a very, like, sensitive, empathetic person. So you're probably a good person to have that conversation with her no matter which way it went to kind of just brace her for whatever happened. I mean, I've been, I've been through the ring with relationships. So I was like, if it's not you, we're going to be fine. We're going to be fine. Okay. Um, next up we see Daisy and Juliana.

How did your chat go? I love talking to her right when I like sat down. We jumped right into it and I felt like we really vibed with each other. I enjoyed talking to her because I felt like at that point, we were in kind of the same position looking back at when I was in that spot, just how we were feeling. And I felt like she was either going to like give it her all and like open up to him. or she was going to, like, retract and not. And so I think it was, it was just a really good conversation.

And I shared a lot, like, how, like, life, like, after the show, how I, like, even though it wasn't, like, me, I'm so happy I did the experience and I'm so happy that I gave it my all because, like, that's the only way I found out that, like, it wasn't meant to be me and him. And I was, like, either way for you, it's going to be, like, great. And I'm like, it's just. but you're not going to know that unless you open up. And she was so nice and so sweet.

And we just had a really good conversation. And I really enjoyed it. Do you think your conversation swayed her into opening up? I think, I think so not to be like it was me. No, no, no. Talk yourself up. So like if you did it success. But I think it did really help her because I think like when you're in that position,

it is so especially when you get to that point, you have like so many thoughts going through your head and I remember at one point thinking like oh my gosh am I going crazy but it's not it's just a situation and the situation's not normal so you just kind of try to have to like put yourself like fully in it to really know if this is going to be like you're a person and then you figure it out for yourself too absolutely yeah Katie you had a chat with Latia how did that go I feel like I'm curious to know actually Daisy and Katie when you're meeting the matchups are you in the back of your mind being like I'm wondering if their trajectory is likely going to align with mine or are they even are they thinking like you know Katie you were you were the chosen one do you think Latia's like oh it's probably now it's probably me like that maybe I mean we did talk about it the three of us after words.

I'm Jemail Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents and there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House

of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.

And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free.

free iHeartRadio app, search emergency intercom, and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life,

emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the cold case. code on DNA. Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it. He never thought he was going to get caught, and I just looked at my computer

screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases, to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story. that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man

had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wise.

crack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I feel like when, because obviously me, Katie and Rachel, we're all there and we were hanging out the whole time. And so we talked to each other about like the conversations that went on. And I feel like my conversation with Juliana, I feel like it could have gone like one or two ways. It could have like, I could see it being them. But then I, also could be like, I don't know if it's going to be them if like if she doesn't like open up and want this. So like my conversation with her, I could have seen it. I could see it going either way. Right. And I will say I don't like Latia didn't watch her season. So I don't think

she knew where I was. I think maybe a producer told her. But yeah, I don't think it went to her head like oh, Katie's with me. She's the final pick. Well, I guess with them too. Like for like Latia, like she might be like, okay, I'm with Katie, but they might be bringing only girls that got engaged or they might be bringing like a total mashup of people from the franchise or like maybe like Zach's talking to one of the girls. Like they don't know that the lineup or the pair up is being done this way until they're watching it back. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not too sure what exactly like what each girl knew going into a chat. Yeah. We see the main focus of your conversation with Latia is surrounding the topic of fantasy suites, physical intimacy. She said something where she said like, this is an honesty hour.

Like, I don't want to spend my time kind of breaking down his time with other women. I would rather just like face that later on. Yeah. And we really aligned on that because that was my mentality going into fantasy suites as well. I didn't, I wanted to compartmentalize each relationship. Like, hey, I know this process. I know what I signed up for, but I want to focus in on our relationship, including gaining clarity and a deeper connection with my man. So, and she kind of had the same outlook. She's like, I don't want to know either. And I think it was amazing that she wanted to set boundaries. And she vocalized

that to grant and said, hey, these are my boundaries. I want to focus more on emotional. emotional intimacy, the physical intimacy. And that was exactly where I was at. So I felt like she gained a lot of clarity with me and having that conversation. And it was genuinely like talking to like a good friend. Like we genuinely just like vibe really well together. And yeah. Yeah. Your chat was really giving like when you call a girlfriend. You're like, hey, this is what I want to talk to me about tonight. Like how do we phrase it? Like how do I say this in the best way? Yeah. Well, you guys are like, You guys are, like, currently hanging out. So if Latia doesn't end up with Grant, like, she, she met you.

She doesn't find love with Grant. She gained a friend. I love with me. Yeah. And hopefully some girls from her season, too. Yeah. No, she is good friends with girls from her season. But, yeah, we, like, our season goes on so many girls trips.

Pardon me. Our season goes on so many girls trips that I was like, you know what? Like, let's bring her in, see if she wants to come. And she vibes so well with our girl group too. So she's like now kind of meshed in with us and we love her. She's awesome. That's great. That's so fun.

I'm sure she appreciates having the support of people that have also been through this journey no matter how it ends for her. Yeah. Okay, before we let you guys depart, let's talk a little bit about what you have going on. Daisy, start with you. Yeah, how's Thor, how's the house? Thor is great. The house is great.

so yes now i am in los vegas i forget that your boyfriend's name is thor yeah when she said how's thor i'm like what oh the marvel character especially if we're at the airport and people like our IDs they're like what is that your daisy and thor yeah that's our name you both have like movie character names literally so funny but yeah everything's going good i'm very happy um I like living here so far. My family came last weekend. Yeah, last weekend visit, which was really fun. And then, yeah, I'm just doing a bunch of random stuff. I'm doing a lot of work with Cochlear America, the Cochlear implant brand I have. So in like the next few months, that's basically taking up like a ton of my time and a lot of travel. So I'm really excited about all of that. That's probably like my project that I'm. most excited about so how's the like design decorating because it's like a new home like he didn't live there before right like you're moving in together yeah we know it's it's a mansion like echoing all through her house when she like makes a video no i will say i saw one of your

videos popped up and it was you in your bathroom and it was just the mirrors like in front to back forever and the high ceiling because people were like commenting on my TikTok that it's like a portal but then I was like whatever but then we broke a wine glass on accent people said that's good luck and my parents said this little like I don't know these two like frog things that apparently are good luck so I think I think we're good on that end now good who needs you don't need to decorate you've got your portals and you're good luck yes yeah but yeah I need to get some stuff because it's pretty empty it's got to feel overwhelming. Yeah, it is. And it's like, I still have so many boxes and stuff. So I'm trying to do

it just like, we're doing it like little by little. Yeah. Yeah, it's been fun. It's fun to like do it together. That's good. Nice. Rachel, how's dating life going? Yeah, and are you going on Paradise? Dating is, I, I'm not really dating right now, but I am open to Paradise. So you're single. I'm single i'm just a single dog mom just looking for a dog dad i thought you were going to say i'm just a single dog i'm like i'm madden if i did my dog's tag literally says looking for a dog dad and that's like but every every guy i meet is gay like they'll be walking their dog and they're like oh my god you're so cute and i'm like you're like you're like from afar you're like oh he's hot and then he gets up close and you're like we're like we're just friends um

but yeah i mean i'd love to be it on paradise so we'll see i think the beach is like my home honestly so i think it'd be good for me yeah because you would have been like you would have gone too far on joey's season to have made it for paradise last year oh wait no they took last year off yeah i was like is there any is there any guy that you would be interested in paradise i have talked about this daisy has been my girl because i told her i was like should i do paradise she's like yes i think you should so i want her to answer that question okay yeah daisy Who do you think Rachel should flirt with in Paradise? Okay.

Well, when Paradise became like talks that it was happening again, I would like pull up like I went through, I think like every season of The Bachelor and Bachelorette and was like pulling guys and sending them and being like, okay, what about this guy? What about this guy? I love this. She's your millionaire matchmaker.

Yeah. Then, okay, now I'm trying to think, you know, I don't want to put anything out there. I think I need to let it. Well, who do you think? What kind of guy do you think Rachel would be a good fit? I think to be someone that's like very, like, active and likes to do a lot of fun things and doesn't like to just like party and go to the clubs because she's very, she likes to do

like fun things that aren't like just drinking and doing all that stuff. So I think it's important that they. Like someone adventurous. Yeah. And someone that's really like, I feel like family. and like friend oriented, I think is really important because Rachel has like, she's just such like a loving person. And also they have to be funny because she's one of the funniest people I know. So that'd just be boring if they weren't. Okay. So funny, active adventurous, not gay.

Yes. Okay. Would you throw, would you be willing to throw a name out there? And I won't ask again. if you say no it's no okay do you have names in mind and you're just scared to say them yes okay so I think well yes I think so hey who days who but okay well I think if this guy went I think they would hit it off but he's been on a lot of the shows so I don't know oh my god who is Blake Blake Moynes yeah oh okay Well, yeah, based on your, like, description, he would fit that. I could see that if he's not like. Is he actually going on again?

Who knows? I mean, he's probably in Africa right now, like, swimming with sharks and like, I can picture Rachel going and doing that. I can picture that. I like that. And you know what? Katie and I are always advocates for the Canadians. So.

Okay. Last, last up, Katie, what's new with you? you done eating lunch I've done eating lunch I haven't ate much today okay I don't have a problem with it I need a banana for brain power but no

life is great Zach and I have decided we're going to get married this year no I'm not telling you guys a date but yeah we're so excited and then we're thinking like not that you're asking

but we're thinking like a year and a half from now having a little baby because I'm maternal and I can't wait to have kids. But I'm just loving this stage in our relationship and where we are in life that I'm just, yeah, soaking it all in and we're traveling so much. And I just love that man today. Oh, my God, I have chills. Do you, obviously, you don't have to tell us.

Do you have a location in mind yet or you don't know yet? We're literally just going to go to city hall and just. I actually remember, I thought you might do that because I remember. remember you were like, I don't know if a whole wedding is for me. It's expensive. It's a lot. It's so expensive. And like no money is coming from our families. Like this is genuinely coming as Zach Nye's pockets, which is fine. And it's like we were quoted like 70 to 80K for a wedding. And I'm like, you know what, baby. And it's ever that. It's always more. Yeah. I'm like, let's sign the damn paper. And then we'll have a huge like party later down the road. And he honestly

lit up when I said that because it wasn't his idea. He's like, if you want to want the big wedding, we'll do it. If you want, whatever you want, and I was like, this is what I want. And he's like, hell yeah. That'll be perfect and amazing. Do you always think you're going to be in Austin for a little while longer? I know that was kind of a conversation for a while, too. Yeah. So I think we're going to actually buy a house by the end of the year together. We were thinking North Carolina, but when that tornado came through, it kind of gave me the heby-jeebies a little bit. So we kind of took a step back from that. And I think we're going to buy in Austin and then see where life takes us.

We're not, like, married to Austin for the rest of our lives, but why, what North, why were you thinking North Carolina? Like, how is that even? Mountains, water. I feel like every time we talk to you, you just, you're like, I want to live here because there's mountains and water. And then the next time, you're like, we're staying in Austin. I know. I'm all over the place. But I just like, I was thinking, you know, us like growing a family, I'd be closer to, like, home in Canada. Like, it's more of an easier drive for my family. So, you know, all of, and that's okay to be all over the place.

So yeah, moving, there's never a deadline. You can always pick up and move. Yeah. And you, well, off topic, but you were thinking about moving back to Canada, no, or you want to eventually. We are actually, oh my God, exclusive announcement. We are looking right now at apartments in Toronto to split with my parents as a like visit place. We're not going to be living there.

But my dad works in downtown Toronto, but lives in the suburbs. Our highways are under like crazy construction for the next five years. And he was like, I think I want to get a place in the city to spend like two, three nights a week so I can get to the office. And it's always been a long-term goal of ours to have a place in Toronto that we can just be able to spend more time, visit more frequently, especially if that's not going to be like our home base. So yeah, we're actually, we've looked twice. We're going to look again this weekend when we're in town at some places. I'm kind of leaving it up to my parents. I mean, they'll be spending more time there than us.

But we're just going to get like a one bed, one bath in the city. And then we're thinking full-time Vegas. We're not thinking full-time Vegas, no. Joe's thinking full-time on the strip at the encore. No, no, not the strip, not the strip. Okay, okay, you guys, thank you so much for taking the time and chatting with us. This was fun. I enjoyed it.

I don't know if you guys did, but I did. Will we be seeing you guys at AFR next week? Yes. I will not be there. I have a Bachelorette party this weekend in Cabo. Good excuse. It is a good excuse. I'll be there. We are not going. But we are excited to watch Katie and Rachel on our screens again. Daisy, we will miss you and see how Grants' journey unfolds. Thank you. And make sure you tune in and download and subscribe and listen to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thanks for listening. Bye.

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