Bachelor Happy Hour - Dancing Queens with Joey & Jenna — Part 1

Episode Date: December 17, 2024

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re joined by “Dancing with the Stars” Len Goodman Mirrorball Trophy winners Jenna and our former Bachelor Joey! The champs are sitting down with Joe and Serena to talk all things dancing and more. We get into Joe’s memories of partnering with Jenna when he was on “DWTS,” including a close call they had LIVE on the dance floor! Then, we discuss Joey’s journey to the Mirrorball with Jenna by his side and the obstacles they faced. Plus, we hear all the tea from their season! Tune in now, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here with the mirrorball champions themselves, Joey and Jenna. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. How are you? We're good.

Thanks for having us. Thanks for coming on. How's Jenna? My old partner, my old dancing partner, she, she, she, she, she, flipped on me. She went for the more relevant, more handsome, more popular Joe. I'm not happy about it. I thought I would have two Joe from Bachelor

Nation. Like, what are the freaking odds? Yeah. And honestly, also the two of you made it the furthest on the show. So you should be so proud of yourselves. Thank you. Very similar. Very similar styles of dance. Yeah, equally talented. Joey and I. Both just riddled with natural ability. let's let's let's let's pick up at the beginning joey you i remember we saw you at the movie premiere in new york

and you were debating if you wanted to even go on the show so what changed your mind you did joe 100% really honestly it was it was talking to you and talking to charity and don about the experience because they were just on it before but that was helpful to kind of talk to people that have been through it and you honestly did say i was worried about about how it was going to be and if I was going to even be able to perform and enjoy it and like I was worried about putting myself out there. And you gave me confidence. You're like I sucked and it was still so much fun. So that made me feel like I should do it regardless of what was going to happen. So he gave me all the confidence in the world that it was a good idea,

even if I was going to be very, very bad at it. Yeah, I wasn't very good, but I tried really hard, right, Jenna? Yes. No, I think that we can attest almost every interview that we did. our season was one of my favorite seasons because first of all obviously your dance was your dance experience wasn't the best but we had so much i mean i don't know how you feel but i had so much fun every day in rehearsal with you because you were just down um we laughed so hard and i feel like because there were no expectations really for like dance wise we were just like let's just go do that let's just freaking go perform well we gossiped every every but we gossiped for the first 30 minutes and drink coffee. Every single time. Well, I did. It was one of the seasons. You were just so enjoyable to be around.

And yeah, it was great. Okay, so that's actually that. That leads me into my next talking point. I thought you would be thrilled to get another bachelor, but there's articles out there saying that you wanted somebody from the NFL. She was disappointed, Joe. She could stand another Joe from the Bachelor. She was very, very upset about it.

You know what? This went around. round and I was so upset because everybody took my words so out of context. What I was saying is that at the... And I actually believe you because when I heard it, I was like, yeah, it doesn't

really sound like, Jenna. Thank you so much, Joe. You're welcome. Here's the thing. Before the season had started, when I first got picked up and before anybody had been announced on the cast, this was before I knew I was with Joey or that he was even on the cast. For

years, I have been talking to the casting director about being with a football player. I've never had a football player. I've always wanted to partner with them because, again, they're athletic. They are totally down to be coached and yelled at. They usually do pretty well. So I was like, you know what, maybe this will be my season to get a football guy. And then I had heard rumblings that there was an NFL player cast it on the show. I didn't know it was Stanley. I didn't know Joey was on yet. And so that's why I said, you know, I was like, oh, disappointed that I didn't get the footballer because I'd found out that he was with Whitney. She had her first meet before I did. Oh, they're not like all on the same day at the same time.

Oh. We were actually pretty late. I think we were one of the middle of the last ones. Is it the same day or is it spread out across a couple days that they film it? It's spread out across a couple of days. Oh, okay. Schedule when they move there. So like if Whitney's on day.

one you're like there's the footballer that's my chance it's gone and now you have to wait like three days to find out who you got exactly she got stuck and she got stuck with me why didn't I get the football guy this time and that was again

before I met him and then when I met him I was like okay this is going to be awesome super super stoked she's like PTSD this is terrible oh no I almost believe her like I almost believe her but it's just it's fine We've gotten through it. I got you a mirror ball, so we're happy now.

Exactly. Is there a sport, like NBA, NFL, whatever, that is, like, the players are known to be the best dancers or have the best skills that, like, translate to dance? Football players. Football players, just because of, like, footwork and rhythm? Yeah. They're agile. They are, they're comfortable and familiar with, like, a rehearsal schedule where it's really physical.

it's a lot of hours so they're like down to that experience and then also they're usually pretty big and strong so they can lift the girl all over the place so I think they tend to do pretty well Jen I remember what I almost snapped your neck

Jesus show Halloween episode Yeah I almost I almost killed you I swear my life she almost died it was This is why she wants a football player She's like they would never do that to me No, honestly, Joe, that was your best dance, and it was the ending move.

We had like one lift. It was the ending move. He put his arm in the wrong spot. I was like going to do a backflip. I don't know how I did. She went like, it was like, it was the only thing that I couldn't, like, it was the only position I couldn't lift her in was the was like, just don't do this. And it was what I did.

It was what I did. Well, we survived. I didn't stop. not. Jenna would walk off stage when we would get done dancing and she'd look at me and she go, what happened? And I would look at her and say, well, because would that be something that you would just like never do in rehearsal and then you'd get on stage and you just freak out?

I would just black out every time. But okay, we can't talk about me. Let's talk about, we're going to get to when you guys first met. But Jen, Jen, I do want to ask you this question. It shows a popular show, right? It's on ABC. Everybody, everybody that lives in the United States at least. knows what The Answer with the Stars is.

But what do you think it is about this season? Because it's been all over, like all over TikTok, all over, and not saying that it's usually not, but I feel like this season has been like the biggest in a while. Do you agree? At least on social media. Do you agree? And why? Yes.

Well, I think it's facts. We got numbers back that it was like 70% higher our viewers. And that's insane Because no one's watching live TV anymore, right? Yeah. I think this was such a perfect storm of the cast. First of all, we had two Olympians hot off of the Olympics Who were like mega stars of the Olympics.

We had somebody like Joey who was so loved by Bachelor Nation And I think that was like the perfect momentum going into the season. And then I think just in general, the celebrities were so like. and so active on social media and I think that's when this younger demographic of like TikTok got involved where every week a lift or a dance was going viral and then everyone was trying to do it more people were tuning in it was nuts like I've been on the show for a while for 10 years and I've never felt the magnitude that it was this season it was crazy but so

exciting like it's just really exciting that everybody's talking about it and not just like grandmas and moms but like dads and younger kids and people are tuning in which it's really really awesome yeah hopefully you get like you get a younger audience on the tour i mean sometimes sometimes those meet and greets what sometimes they're what joe well you will actually isolate a portion of your fans right now no i'm not isolating anybody but you will have you will have some very um aggressive older women oh yeah they're coming for Don't pinch your ass. Go pinch your ass and everything.

I'll be proud for that one now. Joey, you're at this, I mean, you are probably, I would say, in a lot, you know, in a long time or a while, the most loved Bachelor we've had. Yeah, or just lead. For sure. That's just a five. Yeah, maybe ever. What do you think it is? I don't know.

I mean, I think I've gotten very lucky. And even here that always just is like, I just deflected. every single time. I think Jenna's heard that a million times. We deflect that of people saying I'm a loved Bachelor. I don't know how all this happened. I still think back in how crazy this year was. And I know it's kind of a usual progression where if you do well on The Bachelor, they do ask you to dance with the Stars. But like we talked about before, I didn't even know if I wanted to do it because I was excited to get back to figuring out what I want to do with my life. But it just was one of those opportunities that was so hard to say no to. And now that I've done it, it was

the best decision I could have made because it just has given me a full other way to express myself of Joey outside of The Bachelor, too. And I don't know, just this show has been amazing. And in this year in general, just to see the amount of love and support I've gotten from the Bachelor Nation fan base, from now this new fan base from Dancing with the Stars, it just given me a lot of confidence that had a good year. I got very lucky, is really all I keep saying. But it's been a very, very fun one. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest.

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your podcast. What was the advice that Charity gave you going on the show coming, like, off as a lead in a serious relationship? Because I know that's kind of a different dynamic than when someone goes on and they're single or, you know, we saw like Hannah Brown went on after her season and it was just, it's just different. Yeah. I definitely talked to her a lot.

Dot was the person I talked to most about that, actually, because I, I think he was in the tougher role as much as it is for the person that's going through it. It's actually the person that's not in it and has to kind of be at home and put their life on pause too. So I talked to Dot and a lot about that and just got some advice. And I think Charity did a really good job, like prepped me for how much it was going to be, like how busy you were actually going to be and how much of a grind it would be. But Dotten did a really good job just explaining to me how much, you know, the things that Cherry did that help, the things that he thought were really important.

to make sure that in the relationship, you were still putting the time and effort into it. And it wasn't always easy, but the main thing that we just always did was stay present when we were with each other. And as soon as I got back from practice, I just tried to have that little decompressed time before I actually put all of my energy and effort

back into the relationship, because we were just going nonstop, and then whenever I got the time, I put as much into it. But I mean, Kelsey had to be extremely understanding and go through this whole process with me, but luckily we found ways to incorporate, and I think she just truthfully enjoyed the process and at the end of it, I mean, we couldn't be happier.

So it all worked out, but definitely not the easiest process when you're in a relationship for sure. Yeah. Yeah, Jenna, let's ask you about that, you know? So you're married, you're a beautiful baby boy. When I was on this show, we didn't really, you know, sexual chemistry wasn't really a thing because I couldn't stop. It took me, you know. Wait, because you were in a relationship when you went on the show and then were you married, Jenna? She was engaged to be married.

I was engaged. But you know what, Joe, I was talking with Joey about this. I didn't feel like we ever got annihilated to the amount that Joey and I did this season. So I wasn't prepared for the response because when we were partners, like everyone was just so supportive and excited. I don't know. Maybe it's because you were in the lead and people weren't like so. No, no, because I couldn't move. I couldn't move.

People were like just just. I think that has to be it. It is, it is. People are like just help this, help this poor man. And I, and I came on. The truth is, the truth is, Joey was the lead. He was the bachelor. I can't, I, my, I would say like my reputation. You weren't engaged.

No, but my reputation from the bachelor was more like, lovable, like super handsome and charming, but lovable, like, lovable loser almost. Oh my God, don't say that about yourself. That is not true. But that's kind of, that was kind of it because, like, I went home night one and everyone was like, we love him. It was more of a, that was kind of like an underdog for sure. Like, trust me. I think I'm great.

Like, I'm not like Joey. Like, Joey, the flex. Like, I would step in and be like, yeah, it makes sense. People love me. Fucking awesome. But, but that's kind of why. That's what I think it was. But like for you guys, yeah, there's so many rumors.

You just have, you know, you just had a kid. How do you handle all that? um again i've been on the show for a while so it's nothing that i'm not used to it usually happens on the other end where but vows been with i've also been with like a lot of gay guys or a girl so i haven't really had people like speculating or putting that on me um if anything it's been rules reversed so i've had to be like the understanding and supportive one and just be like oh what you know this is this is crazy so this was the first time that i feel like it was a lot for me to deal with so i was just like are people psychotic i am married i have a child

it was just wild to me but i think it was the initial shock of it like gma was the worst day yeah because we were so excited we had been practicing already for like a week and a half for something. And I was so excited about this partnership, about being with him, people's reactions to him being on the show. I was so proud that I was paired with him. And we posted, everybody posts their photos of like, this is my partner for the season. And I'll never forget, we did a picture and my hand was on his chest. Heaven forbid. Everyone was like, let's kill her. It was crazy. And you're probably thinking, like, if they're freaking out about this phone, Like we're in for it when we actually started dancing together.

You should see my conversation we had in week two going into the rumba. Yeah. You're like wait till his hand touches my waist. Like people are going to pass out. Again, I think also and Joe, I'm sure you know this. But as dancers, we're like, this is our craft. We're not, there's no intention other than like we're creating beautiful, gorgeous shapes. This is technique.

This is like what ballroom entails to like have these. moments or to be close to one another so i think gma was like a really hard day for me because it hit me oh man this is what the season is going to be like but after week one and the initial shock was over and i think they saw like our interactions with each other everything died down and then it was so supportive again you get those like few trolls or haters throughout the season um but yeah that was that was really hard just because i'd never been been in that position before so heavily. But yeah, and then it was just supportive and so awesome.

And I really felt, again, like I did with you, Joe, the love and the passion of Bachelor Nation, like, really supporting us. And it was, it was incredible. Well, Joey, didn't. Did I see something that said you specifically asked for someone who was in a relationship where you like, I literally did everything I could hear and it still backfired? Well, I did that for a lot of reasons. I did that to give Kelsey confidence because, as she said,

I don't know why anyone would think there was anything going on when she literally is married and has a kid. So that was in my mind of like, that's just going to give more confidence for everyone around us. It gives Kelsey confidence that I'm in this just for dancing. And I tried as much as I could to prep for that because I didn't want that to be noise. But as she said, we got shocked by it with how quickly it happened initially. And I did everything I could.

But at the end of the day, we were so excited that after the first two weeks, I think people started to get invested in the fact that they enjoyed watching our dances. They actually wanted to focus on that. And also, I think they just got the vibe very quickly that we just were brother and sister and just enjoying this entire experience. And we had our own like chemistry and quirks that they saw were finally what they should have been paying attention to the entire time. But yeah, I didn't expect it, but, you know, we did what we could. And we kind of made it through in the beginning.

But it worked out at the end of the day. I also think, go ahead. I mean, it is difficult, though, for like, you know, you straight male that goes on the show. And you're kind of like, you know, like I've never danced before, you know, like that, you know, with a woman so close. And then you're kind of like, you know, sometimes it's like, whoa, this is. You're not making sense.

You're not making any sense. You don't know what I'm saying, though. No, I don't know what you're saying. I would say the, okay, so I would say I have the mentality of an audience member where if I'm watching the art of dance, I'm like, wow, they're getting pretty close. You know, we're like, you know. No, we have an interaction within the first couple of practice.

She was like, you're going to have to touch me and get close to me because it was initially as you just, it's not something you would do. It's never been in the spot. It's like typically with a colleague, you're not breaking that barrier of physical touch. Yeah, so I was making sense. In the beginning, I wasn't following, but I, yeah,

you're making sense. I understand. It's like acting or something. Like, when you do those scenes, it's storytelling. You have to be believable. And I think the audience wants to see a dance that's going to make them feel something or that's powerful enough to stand out.

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and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in. it. They had no idea who it was.

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I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So what was the first meeting like then with you two?

I want to hear what your thoughts are on the first meeting. Okay. Joey came in. He was so nervous. Yeah. So nervous. And like sweat shorts. What do you call those?

Like basketball shorts? I was just in short. No one told me that I would be throwing on dance shoes on day one. So I'm like in a normal tennis attire outfit because that's what I have. Full tennis outfit. I was in my Lulu Lemon shirt and shorts and I was just about to, I thought we were just going to meet really quickly. And all of a sudden I throw on dancing shoes and I have to like literally learn steps.

You're like I'm ready to slay. Let's go. Ballroom shoes with shorts. And yeah, I was very nervous for that. Yeah, he was really, really nervous, but he was just so sweet. And then it was very weird because this hasn't ever happened to me before. But we met in the morning at very early like 8 a.m. And then we that same day had to go to the promo shoot.

And this is like an eight-hour shoot where you're in full, I'm in a full Rhinestone outfit. He's in like ballroom attire for the first time. And they're like, okay, freestyle, just dance for like five minutes. Keep dancing. Smile. Look like you're comfortable. Now, you two dance.

And it's just, it's so, it's a very vulnerable experience. Yeah. Yeah. You're like so awkward. But I think that's that's when we realized that we would get along and have an awesome season because we just like laughed the whole time. And I think we felt really comfortable with each other. So it ended up being a really, really fun day. But yeah, very fives from 8 a.m. being like, oh, my. I was petrified. Because I got there and I just got put in the studio and all of a sudden I meet her. And I didn't really know much about what the whole experience is going to be like. And as she said, we got. got thrusted into the full experience right away on day one. But that was the biggest part that I remembered was it was sometime in the middle of that shoot. And we were like three hours in and I was having the best time and I fully lost that feeling of nerves.

She like, I had the freestyle and dance in front of like 40 people for about a minute and half. And it was just literally Jenna was the one coaching me. And I would not have been able to do that unless she was there. So then it was great. It was great. I was like literally milly rocking and just dancing to myself a whole time. but it was necessary to have her in it.

And it definitely made that day a lot more fun. Do you feel like playing tennis helped you, at least with like coordination? And I mean, you're an instructor yourself, like the ability to take instruction. Yeah, I think that we said from the beginning that the tennis side, the footwork was probably nice to be able to be a little light on my feet. But the biggest thing was being a coach really helps you be a decent student. So I really don't know. I think that was...

To a fault talk too much about all this stuff. But, like, I was using metaphors. I was trying always to ask her questions about, like, why is this the case? And I really tried to understand everything so that when she was explaining stuff, I really grasped it. And I think I annoyed her initially, but then she realized it was going to be a big difference from it, too. I think that is the reason why he was so successful in the show is because he understood what he needed to ask or what he should be feeling. And I feel like, as a coach, too, you kind of have to lose your ego. go when you're a student of knowing that this person giving you critiques, they're not doing it

for personal reasons. This is just to help you get better. So yeah, he did ask a lot of questions, but I loved seeing his mind work and be like, okay, this is why I need to do this. So she can feel this. Like it was, it was really awesome to see him so invested in that. Okay, but on that initial, on that initial meet, right? When Joey first walks in the door, Jenna, you definitely are, are are sizing up his ability like in the in the in the in that first five minutes oh yeah we're on a scale of one through 10 right

where did you put him compared to like somebody like neve like where was joey on that scale honestly to start they were very similar um Neve had more dance experience he wasn't a dancer at all but he was like really invested in the dance community so he like was able to pick up

shapes really well. And I would say that our first meets were very similar. Like, he is not a dancer naturally, but he could pick up and he has natural rhythm, which is game changing. He understands music, musicality, rhythms. And that helps so much when you have somebody like that. I even know there was music. It's like two hours to do three salsa moves.

at one point I forget what it was but it was in like the first two practices and she did dongy once I did some step she's like that took Joe to week six to get that step I was like awesome

I mean at least a little better than that guy that's good it was it was like week four Jenna walked into practice she goes I know what it is I just can never let you go

I have to have I got to keep hold of you the whole time because whenever I was off you can't be free or just you're running wild Whatever I was free on the dance for it, you just, I was just like, yeah, it's kind of just in general. Yeah, you can't be let free.

It's just not safe for anyone. On that promo day, was that the first time you guys meet all the competition? You like slowly started to meet some of the people. They tried to keep it under wraps, but like I met Danny when I got to the hotel because we were staying at the same spot. And then I saw, I think Fajor and a few other people were shooting at the same time we were. So you just start to find people in passing. But yeah, then you just, you end up figuring out who it is in a pretty short amount of time. Are the two of you like sizing other people up?

Like, are you like, okay, so like they're probably going to be good. Like, we don't have to worry about them. Even if they say no, the answer is yes. Yeah, yeah. We'll own it. We talk about that. You have to be. It's a competition.

You know what I mean? You want to like speculate on how things are going to play out. Yeah. The first day we talked about it. You're getting snippets. You're like seeing people in the promo shoot as well. So like that one, oh, she has really nice. arms or she looks like she has some dance moves um so you're definitely sizing that but i wouldn't say

until the first episode or the first show you really get a glimpse of how everyone's going to do because that they have to show up live and that's when they have to like be on camera and deal with an audience and how all of that affects them so i feel like the first episode is really telling of of how everyone's journeys are going to go i mean that was important we talked about that a lot She said, she said, I don't even know how you're going to be until we get out there on that premiere date. Like, you could be confident. We could feel great about this dance. But until you get in front of the, we were first, too.

So until you get in front of the flights and you hear those clicks, like you have no idea if you're going to even be a contender until that moment right then. And that was, that was scary. We had Jen on at the end of her season. And this was like right, I think right as she was finding out she was on dance. But the stars are right before around that time. And Joe was telling her, like, the three clicks are the scariest moment of your life. He's like, you could feel amazing, but he was like, just you wait until you hear the three clicks and it's just dead silent. Yeah.

Yeah. That should be, that's like for anybody that's been on the show, had severe PTSD. It is triggering. Click, click, click. Oh, for sure. So then, Joey, how do you feel as someone who comes on with zero dance experience about someone like, chance? who comes on with a lot of dance experience. Like, is it hard feeling like you're comparing yourself to each other?

How does that even work in a competition setting where, like, everyone's abilities on night one are so different? It's unfair. Well, I remember, I remember. It's unfair. I remember when we started and you start doing show and tells and you start talking to the other couples and the other pros. And I just remember all of the pros were, like, blown away. from Chandler right from the get down and said how, like, no, like, not only is she have dance experience, she might be one of the best that's ever been on the show from the

beginning of how, like, strong she was. Did she just grow up a dancer? Like, she did. She took a long break from it, but she was, I think she did some professional train dancing at a young age. I think she went to like a school and she was like very much in it and then took a long break from it. But the biggest difference with Chandler that was so intimidating was she wasn't just a great

dancer. She could perform. Like, she could actually emote in her face and, like, that's hard to do because you can be a really great dancer, but you don't know how to, like, really just get the smile. Yeah, that's hard. And she was amazing at that right away. So natural. And we were like, oh, like, we are not going to contend with that was kind of the mindset initially. I never said that.

I did. I thought that. Because, again, everyone else was talking about it. But what she said that I held on to, which is a big part of this whole entire show, is people do want to watch a journey. And I think it was so impressive that Chandler still improved throughout the entire competition. If you look at her first dance to her last, she got so much better. And that's incredible when you were that good from the beginning. But I think a lot of people do fall in love with the idea of someone that starts with no experience

and how they can kind of build it up. But it was so funny, we laugh about it all the time in this experience that people thought I was a dancer by like week five. They're like, oh, Joey has dance experience. I don't know when that started because. Expectation became a lot. I was, like, expected to be as good as Chandler every week. I was like, this girl is actually a dancer.

And I have no idea what I'm doing out here. If I didn't have her choreographing something, I would look like an idiot. But you could, I see that I've been on the team dance with Chandler. And I saw how quickly she picked stuff up. And I was like, oh, we are on different playing fields here. You've got a lot more. You're going to put a lot more energy into this for us. How does that work with scoring then?

Well, you know what? Don't answer that. We'll leave that. Let's leave that question hanging. I'm going to end the episode here. and then we'll pick it up. So then, you know, if our listeners do want to hear the answer to that, you're going to have to listen to episode Part 2.

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