Bachelor Happy Hour - Defying Expectations | Golden Hour

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back dishing out more advice! We kick off the episode by getting into Grant’s Hometowns and who we think could be getting engaged. Then, we dive into the question of the day: How do you deal with mean girls and gossip? And then we get into your questions, starting with an amazing update from Maggie, who wrote to us about battling the side effects of brain surgery. We’re talking engagement rings, dealing with toxic parents, and so much more. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called No Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do. Now, if the rule was the same, go off on me. I deserve it. You know, lock him up. Listen to No Such Thing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. No Such thing. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. We're so excited to be back again, Kathy. Thanks for joining us. Oh, my gosh.

I am so excited. But can we just talk for a minute about exhaustion? We are going to answer your fan questions. We want you to submit them. We love reading them. It's so easy. It's easier than getting a plane back to the states from St. Martin. All you have to do is go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour

and submit away. Send us your questions, your comments, your updates. Take it away. Maybe all of it. We want all of it and the updates especially because when you write in these questions, we love answering, we love giving advice, but we always are curious how you made out. So definitely do that for us. And just remember, you can also DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. All right, Kathy, let's start with hometowns. Oh, my goodness. What did you think of this week's hometown episode? First of all, the best thing, starting with Juliana and her dad, Carl, who I actually loved, but I loved the Boston accent. Did you just go homesick? Did you get home sick? Did you get home sick? Yeah, I made me totally homesick. Go Newton, go Boston. I was the accent, when people

say to me, oh, I can tell you from Boston, I want a clip of this episode just to play them and say, no, no, this is a Boston accent. Carl has a Boston accent. I just loved it, though. I mean, you're the Italian, so you got to weigh in on this about how Italians, but I thought they were so welcoming. They were wonderful. They were. We are. That's how we are. They eat, they gather. And I loved that he accepted and he liked them. Yeah. What did you think, though, I had to laugh when they were at the pizza store and they bring home four pizzas. I'm like, there's a crowd of like 60 there. I'm sure those four pizzas went far.

But, you know, it's funny because I wish they had shown just me being me. I wish they had shown more of Newton, more of Boston. I just wish they had, you know, had a nice date other than just going to a local pizza place and tried to spend pizzas. But, you know. I think she's very happy. She's giddy. Like, she doesn't want to get hurt. I mean, if she said it was the first time

it's seven years, she's brought a guy home. I know. And I watched it thinking, oh, are you going to get hurt? I don't know. So, moving on, each date, I kept looking for that moment that tells us, right? Yeah.

The modeling with Zoe and all that was cool, and she is a beautiful, beautiful girl. I'm not feeling that one. Well, we'll get to her, but but i just want to know on on of course i told you juliana's my hometown girl i still think it's going to be letia but i loved the way they really welcomed him and i think that meant a lot to him because this is a guy that seems to really care about family and what family he felt good leaving there yeah and did you hear him say um julian i think said to her dad you know he's my

guy i we were aligned and they feel safe with each other i mean those things really matter and and you know the previews he says he's really struggling i'm going out on a limb here i think he's going to be struggling between juliana and letia that's what i think too all right let's move on uh to um to zoie wait one more thanks did you wait but did you hear him tell her i starred this he said to juliana i'm falling for you it could be a fit and juliana said she'd let down her walls. So, and when he kissed her goodbye, it was not a pack. It wasn't a pretty good kiss, though. It's a little one. Yeah. It's not the one. I wanted, I like her. Yeah. All right. So let's go to Zoe, who it's definitely not the one, but give me your thoughts. I don't think it's Zoe. I would be surprised. I think

she's lovely. She's got a great life. She's very strong and he likes that about her. I think Zoe's beautiful. Absolutely. I think doing a wedding photo. shoot. I do not think that was a good idea. I mean, just for, does anyone think that was the good idea is to do a wedding photo shoot? Wait, do you remember when they tied the knot? Who was that that tied the knot? Latia. Latia, yeah. That was, you know, so, I remember when Joan and Feskel. Yeah, I remember that too. But wait a minute. Do you, when they did, like, they didn't just do a wedding shoot they did a proposal they did she came out in a wedding dress oh in the ring i mean how about how she was posing she's a fabulous she's a beautiful model that's what i'm saying i think everything you're saying is

right she's a beautiful model however uh grant did say you could see he felt it was a little bit weird to be doing a photo shoot with an engagement ring the whole nine yards i mean just practice grant really and and i think it was foreshadowing i think it's you know he's scared it was like what the hell Why are we doing this? He said that he was so proud of her for doing, being modeling. I didn't see him talking about them at all. It was, oh, she's a great model. You know, she's beautiful.

She's so good at her craft kind of thing. That was, it was almost like it was. There was not a connection. There was, I didn't feel anything other than, damn, I look. I wish, but don't you wish she looked like she does in a wedding gown? I know. God. I mean, you are beautiful.

If you're listening to this, you're gorgeous. Yeah. So you are absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, we love you. But I don't see it happening. Okay. My most favorite date, or do you want to go to Dina? Let's go to, let's go, who was next?

Poor Dina, her parents didn't come. They refused to come. Okay. I don't remember that her dad was a religious man. I didn't catch that during the show. I don't think that's what it is necessarily, I think. But can I just say to you, I think that's what we call a red herring. Again, I don't know why I go out on limbs when I'm talking to about this stuff.

I just tell you what I really think, because I figure nobody else is listening to. I'm just telling Susan here. But I think that that was just a red herring. I don't think her parents being there had anything to do with it. I think for him setting her home. They put a thorn in it. Well, it may have put a thorn in it, but I'm saying I didn't see the connection. I saw her and him as companions as, you know, he trusted in her.

her. He, she was saying, gave him sage advice. Yeah, he was impressed with all that. And, you know, she was the one that talked about Carolina. And he listened to what she said. But again, no connection. But I don't think he sent her home. I think he likes them both, but. But I don't think he sent her home because our parents weren't there. I think that's. No, I don't think that's the main reason, but that was a, a sour start. Imagine how she was feeling. I felt so bad for her. Oh, I did too. That's embarrassing. It's like, but you have to respect your parents' wishes.

Well, I don't, whether she respects the wishes or not, she was there with, you know, her friends. I wonder if she went home and said, thanks a lot because of you. She probably went home and said, you know what? He sent me home. Because you didn't show up. That's right, because you didn't. And they said, and they probably said to her, no, we knew it was going south. That's why we didn't show up.

I mean, that's a no win for anybody. But I, let's talk about Latia going to Wyoming. Can I just say the big, the big thing in that room? Wait, I put it on my bucket list, Kath. I got to go there. Oh, it was so beautiful. We're going to go and ride horses. I'm going to go skiing.

You can ride horses. You and Faith, if you're listening, Susan's coming to ride horses with you. Not me. No, no, never happening. I mean, and I love the people. The Mormon deal, it's not an issue. No, I love that. I thought, oh my God.

Here it comes. Here it comes. And they all were open. He is a man of faith. That's all that mattered. He did say to her and about Juliana. Again, I'm paraphrasing here. He said about Latia, she would make a great wife and mother. And that has been his parade lyrics. Well, he's all about family. And I think that's why her family love that part. She is so pure. That smile of hers. And she's so falling for him. I see the love there. I don't know who does. the music. See, I want to all the deal. Whoever, whosover the music engineer, good job.

You're doing a great job. Really a good job. You can use that term for so many things, Susan. That's an inside joke for y'all. I thought I'd make her laugh. They both seem so genuinely happy. And I love that Grant opened up about his own mother's strict religious beliefs. He seems comfortable with her.

I think she's the one. I, oh, I've been, oh, no, you're, oh, now you're doing turncoat again on me. You kept St. Juliana. I like Julianna from the get-go. Yeah, I did. It's the people that I like. I don't know who he picks, but after this, and she will not sleep with him on the overnights.

Did you hear her say that? I don't know that she will or won't. I mean, I've heard women said that before and they end up. That's not in her faith. And she also said that would be difficult. if he sleeps with other women. Well, he's a man and he's got some pretty women and, you know, get over it, Latia. It's happening.

Let's just forgive him. Start praying now. Father, forgive him for he know not what he did. He knew not what he did. Okay. So the other thing I wondered, though, is how Grant's family would fit into the Mormon faith. I have friends who are Mormon, literally. I mean, they, they, it's, they're good people.

They're good people, but I think, I think they'll, I think they, um, and her father, he was such a doll baby. He didn't look like any of them. Well, wait, did you hear him tell Latia's mother that he's falling in love? He said that. He hasn't said that to any. That's my saying, these little things. Well, the way he looks at her and she looks at him, she feels him.

Okay. I can't believe you haven't said this yet. I'm a hopeful. Hopeful. Okay, so you all need to hear this. Susan and I were on the phone talking the other night. And Susan was saying, we were talking about, you know, just things in life in general. And Susan said, oh, you know me, Kathy. I'm just a hopeless romantic. And I said, no, Susan, you are a hopeful romantic. So we're now coining that. Susan is not a hopeless romantic. She is a hopeful. romantic it's coming this year it's coming this year for both of us um and and so is the tax man on april 15th don't remind me don't remember okay wait i can't i can't i was i was waiting for you to do it because you know i thought this was in your wheelhouse but you didn't so i'm taking it over the pizza leitia's grandfather oh god i'm i can't susan what happened i was like right to cry i was crying i was tearing up about his wife and how much they thought this this is family who knows what love is who would want to be part of that yes who would not want to be part of that i was just like that whole date that whole hometown was perfect do you know what i didn't care for kathy can we

be honest dear tell me the horses no no no no no every time he goes to leave them and they know he's going to the next woman. Yeah. It's not a warm and fuzzy goodbye. He's quick. Little kiss and off he goes. Next. Well, Miss Hopeful Romantic.

He didn't have time to do a Fred Astaire, dip and bow and makeout session, you know? The car's waiting, time's running, money's time, and he's got the next day. Spend the minute with them before you leave. Wait, can I also, wait, the one sound. I got to get back to Grand Pops here for a minute because I was crying. I've hung around you too long now, Susan.

I've turned into a soft job. It is. He said, he said, I am becoming, I am. Well, no, I've always been sentimental. I just don't show it as easily as you do. He said, you can work out anything with love and that kind of love that they had never goes away. Yes. I just, I just made me cry.

You could see how much he missed his wife. He missed her bad. So, you know, the other thing I want to say about Lucia, she says, the, the day, the depth of what she says to him. She said she wants to give him everything. I'm getting goosebumps again. I know. She's got to win. I want to marry them, Kath. Plug it away. Oh, Jesus. Okay. Grant and Latia, should you be the lucky too? I want to be the MC at your wedding. And Susan wants to be the officiant. Make it happen. Wait, the last thing, though, that she said, they both told each other. Did you hear that they're falling in love with each other? Yes. They both said it. So let me just say

Grant has got a, in my mind. And that was a lot for her. Yeah, but Grant, Grant's kind of a big problem if he doesn't choose her. Well, he's got a big problem anyway because he's told Giuliana that he's falling in love with her two. And in the previews, he's telling Jesse that he's in love with two women. Two women, they're the two. That's what I think. I mean, these other two are just wallpaper right now. They're out of it.

Well, I mean, they're lovely women. And Zoe's beautiful and so is, so is Dina. But, you know, they're just space fillers. gone so Zoe's they're all going to go in the wait they all go on the way Susan I'll buy you I'll buy you a new capsule wardrobe if he doesn't send Zoe home if she's not next I agree I agree that's how I feel anyhow I would be quite surprised I just I think he's I think he's a great guy but you know we have to remember I sit here watching the show and I have to remember that these are young adults they haven't had enough life experiences yet so I could see they're in love with two I mean I couldn't

has has Latia ever been in love? I didn't ask her when I called it was quite some time before since she brought anybody around the family I remember hearing that but I don't know Juliana said I know Juliana she hadn't brought somebody home in seven years I don't remember Latia saying that but again you know this is one of these things where I go back to to Leslie and Teresa on our show. Like, remember you and I talked about this. We were glad that we didn't make it to the end because who wanted the kind of heartbreak.

What a horrible heartbreak, you know. Because you open yourself, you've become vulnerable. Yeah. And then you believe him. Well, I would believe, if a guy tells me, if a man tells me he's falling in love with me, why would you not believe that? Right. Right.

Unless he's got. His phone list out, and there's 10 other women that he's dialing up right after he leaves your house. That's why it's called The Bachelor. Why? Because he remains The Bachelor. I know. That's why it should be the Bachelor. It should be, you know, first time wedding or something.

I don't know. But I think it's a great show. I, frankly, am ready for Zoe to go home. Not because I don't like her. I think she's lovely. I think you're lovely. I think she's got a hell of a career head of her. I think you are an incredible model.

And I would focus on that. Some man will sweep you off your feet. And you will be wearing that white wedding gown for the man of your dreams. But I just don't see it for one minute being grand. So I can't. So next week is going to break my heart between the two. In my world, Zoe left. Yeah.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, Susan, it's time to get into the episode. Here we go. We're going to start with my favorite question of the day. Here we go. All right. What advice, Susan, would you give young women who are dealing with gossip, rumors, and all things, mean girls?

Oh, how much can we talk about this? Oh, my God, I could start with just raising my kids, my daughter, what she went through. And to be honest, Kathy, you and I on the Internet. Yeah. People are mean. If everybody was kind, it would be a perfect world. Well, not everybody's mean. I will say to you, I saw, let me tell you how I deal with it and the advice I would give to young women. I've had, and you're right, Susan, we've both had a lot of people write just mean-ass comments to us. Usually I ignore them because you know what? If you ignore them, they go away. But very occasionally, I will address it. And somebody wrote something so mean the other day about you and me and our friendship.

And I wrote back to them, Susan and I have such a great relationship. We are such good friends. I hope someday you find a friendship like Susan's and mine. And in the meantime, have a great day. Was that the same person that said that I need a nose job? I was like, well, that's a first. Yeah. I'm just saying people can be mean. My advice, though, first of all, young women take this stuff. It's harder for young women. I know. But it shouldn't be. We're seasoned, if you will. Okay. But it shouldn't be. Hurt feelings are hurt feelings. Absolutely. Young people, my advice to them is ignore it. First and foremost, ignore it because people are either jealous, they're angry about something else. It's typically about them, not about you, is the point.

When someone's spreading a rumor, I think that would be harder than just hearing mean things. When someone spreads a rumor, you're going to think people are believing this thing, you know, whatever the case may be. And you know what, Susan, you're right. Some people are going to believe it, but guess what? We can only control our own reactions to things. We can't make people think a certain way. We can't make people behave a certain way.

All we can do is control our own behavior and do the best we can to control. our own thoughts. I got to give you a story. I was 13 years old. I don't know if I ever shared this with you. I was never allowed to go to the splash party. They were called at the pool because there was a live music and it was for teenagers. So I turned 13 and I wanted to go. Mind you, I developed in the chest area very late. I used to pray to God. Wait a minute. Wait a second. I don't believe that. Yeah. It was a late blue. This happened to you overnight? Overnight, Kathy. And I did, I must, I must, I must improve my bust. You know, all those exercises.

We must, we must. We must develop our bus. The bigger, the better to fill out our sweaters, we must, we must, we must. So, anyhow, I'm finally allowed to go to this thing. I am so excited. And the development was starting. I mean, it came overnight, like I said. I went into the bathroom at the splash party, and it said, Susan Vocolo stuffs.

I was worded by the what? Well, you do know me, right? No, please tell me you did not pull down your baby. I don't think before I do things a lot of times. I came out and burst open the top of my beatings. Cry in my eyes out to show everybody. I was not stuffing. And I called my mother crying hysterical to come get me.

Now, let me just say to the young women out there, don't do that. I love, Susan. let me just say give you one word of advice here don't hey it worked it worked nobody believed i stopped anymore because there they were and that was your goal in life to make sure that people did not know can you imagine walking in and reading something about yourself and it was it was mortifying i mean listen it's no worse than for a good time going to a bathroom stall for a good time call gaffy with my phone number no seriously though it does hurt it does thing and women or girls don't let it get the best of you be the better person and do not pull off your

bathing suit yeah you can if you want if they're talking about stuff and go for it can we please god we're going to the fan questions right now we're just leaving that we're going it's okay I'm going to start us off with the first one it's start oh guess what susan we have an update oh we just said that today we love the updates we love the updates okay this is one from Maggie. She wrote in, I don't know if you all remember, but we certainly do. She wrote in asking for ways she can connect with her boyfriend outside of food and cooking while she struggled with brain surgery. If you want to go back and listen to it from our episode, it's the one called We're All in the Same Boat. Okay, here it is. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I have an update. I wanted

to share with you after a question I submitted back in the summer. It was about my inability to eat after brain surgery and the strain this had on my relationship with my boyfriend. Your advice really helped. I listened to it several times because your kindness and sympathy brought me so much comfort. Thank you so much. Wow. Okay.

So we took your advice and found other activities to enjoy together over the summer and fall besides our usual eating, cooking, and dining out together. But I've since improved and can finally start to eat some foods again. I wanted to share this progress and good news with two of my favorite ladies who really helped in my time of need. I have goosebumps, Susan. I know. I'm so happy for her.

Yay, Maggie, we're so happy for you. Wow. So, see, it did work out. She did try. She was in an ugly place, right? Yeah. I just, I love it. Now they're doing it.

Now, I just want to say that you and I've talked about this. Food is not a big thing for me. And so when we talked about like what she could do besides eating and dining out, we were coming up with ideas, there are lots of ways to make connections. And I'm just so glad that they found other ways besides the usual, you know, cooking, dining out. She's not telling me what they are, though. I want to know what they did. I'm guessing they went to the.

beach and she pulled off her bathing suit top. Oh, stop it. But just just the simple fact that she's feeling better is the main thing in this. Exactly. It really is. Maggie, we are so thrilled that you have improved health, that your relationship is going well. This is great news. That is the best thing today. More importantly that you're doing good and you want to keep on going with him because you are going to make it. It just took time. And it was a scary time. We prayed for you. We thought about you. And we're so thrilled that you came back to us and let us know. That means the world. And Maggie, let us know if you have time, let us know what activities you did. We'd love to know. Write us in another update. We would love to hear from you. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Now, let's get into Maggie's question.

Maggie asks, my boyfriend and I have been together 12 years. I'm 31 and he's 33. I know time to get engaged. Due to my unexpected brain surgery and all the post-up complications, I've been unable to work for a year, and he's had to cover us financially. He wants to get engaged too, but keeps putting it off for the financial reasons. He's holding off because he's determined to get me a fancy, expensive ring. It's hard because of everyone's expectations and comparisons when it comes to engagement rings. Where's where's Neil Lehm when you need them? We could call him for you, actually.

Any advice on how to move forward with our relationship despite these financial barriers? Okay, I'm hearing two things here. Yeah. One, I'm hearing there are financial issues and the other one I'm hearing it's about a ring.

You can get engaged Maggie without a ring. I know it's not customary, but you know, the ring is a symbol of love. If the love is there, do you really need the ring right now? Well, they're all also talking about comparison. So get a CZ for now and he could make it a real one. Wait a minute. I got a friend. Wait, Susan, I've got a friend, Maggie, reach out to me. I have a friend who deals in lab diamonds. But they're beautiful. They're beautiful. Well, they're a lot cheaper than a

real one. Yeah. Well, they are real. Lab diamonds are not. They're just not natural. Right, right. So I don't know. I can't figure out here, though, if it's the ring or the financial stress. It's the financial because she says any advice on how to move forward with our relationship despite these financial barriers. So, I mean, that is what it is. As long as you two are happy and love each other, who cares about the ring. Listen, Maggie, you reach out to me. I've got a diamond from my husband. I don't have him anymore. I could maybe lend you the ring. Or like I said, get a CD if that's what it's going to take. Or a lab dime. You could always replace the stone or do the lab diamond.

But other than that, that's not, everybody's expecting you to get engaged. Like, is there a time limit on this? I don't think so. You two are in love. You two know you have a future. That is the most important part. But I get it when everyone else is a diamond, you want one to. That's totally.

Go the lab diamond route. But here's the thing. I sense, maybe I'm wrong, Maggie, but I feel like I'm hearing that you said he's been supporting you for a year, that, you know, you've been out of, so maybe there are some other financial constraints right now. And if that's the case, get yourself back up on your feet, you know. And go back to work. Go back to work. Go back to work. Put money back in the bank. You're going to be fine. Trust me when I tell you, Maggie, a ring is worth nothing if you don't have the love to go along with it. So celebrate the love.

I'm glad you're recovering. I'm glad you're feeling better. It's great. I think it's all good, Maggie. All right. Let's move on to question number two. Ray asked. I think Ray is a girl.

It's spelled R-A-E. Hey, Susan and Kathy. I wanted to say that I love this podcast and I've loved watching you on the Golden Bachelor. Listening to your podcast is one of the favorite parts of my week. Do you have any advice for someone who struggles with their relationship with their dad. My dad is great, but my dad is also so hard to be around. He is always negative and thinks of the worst case scenario. And I feel like I can't tell him anything because he's very critical or doesn't

seem to care. It seems like I have a dad who was there, but not actually there. If I don't do something right, he yells at me and gets upset. I have tried to talk to him about it, but he doesn't really apologize and doesn't seem actually sorry. I just don't know what to do. Have you any advice? He's your dad. You have to accept him like he is. You cannot change him. And I think she's doing the right thing by not telling him everything. Because you're going to have to deal with him. She's, I don't know how old she is. But I'm sorry, Susan. I don't accept that a dad gets to yell at you, uh-uh, uh-uh. Well, it doesn't say he, she said. He's negative. If I don't do something right, he yells at me and gets upset. So, Ray, I would say to your dad, I'm really sorry you're so

angry. I'm going to step away. And when you can come and speak to me respectfully and calmly, I would be happy to resume this conversation. Everyone deserves that, Susan, whether it's a friend, a mother, a daughter, a father, a son, you don't get to yell at people unless it's me yelling at you and then it's all fair game. Yeah, whatever. So it is her father and I would like to know how old she is because that would make it a little bit easier. And as you mature, you're able to say and look somebody in the eye say, this is really disrespectful. Daddy, I don't want to share with you anymore because you're always Debbie Downer or a negative, you know. Right. Or Dougie Downer. Do you want us to have a good relationship?

I can't change who you are. You know what I'm guessing, Susan? I'm guessing he's a worrier. A worrier? I think he's worried about her. That could be. But he is negative, she's saying. Sometimes people are negative because they worry about what, you know,

she's on a date. What happens if, you know, he's worried. He's there. but he's not actually there he's there he's old school he thinks the way he thinks enlighten him you know tell him that's this isn't well you just said five minutes ago susan stick which pick your story here and stick with it is he gonna change well you said dad he's your dad and he's not going to change now he's not well then she can't enlighten enlighten him how she's feeling he doesn't care well he will when she silences him I hope I hope you're right

Right. I think there's more to this story, Ray. I want to know how old you are. I want to know if your siblings. I want to know if your dad is married. I'm guessing this has something to do more with interpersonal relationships. I wonder if he's a freaking old Italian. Because they're stubborn. You can't get them to change. Make up a pan of gravy feed them. He'll be fine. No, no, no. They're stuck on their ways. But you know what, right? I offer you good luck. And if it were me, I would try to have that conversation and then I'd pull back. I mean, it's a shame to say, but I wouldn't share everything with him. I wouldn't want to hear his big mouth, his negative shit. Sometimes, Ray, you have to respect yourself. Yes, he is your father, but nobody gets to treat you.

You shouldn't allow anyone to treat you disrespectfully. Absolutely. But thank you for writing in. Let us know if there's any break in this. Good, let us. All righty. Question number three is from An Anonymous. Hi, Golden Ladies. I hope you both are having a fabulous day. If and when you decide to read this,

I'm staying anonymous on this question because I honestly am a little embarrassed by it. Oh, don't be embarrassed. I have not told any of my family or friends that this is going on. So, here we go. My husband and I have been married for around five months. For contents, we did not live together long term before marriage, only around a month due to how rent contracts lined up. Overall, I think we have a great marriage. The only issue that still weighs on me is we struggle to sleep in the same bed. He snores and is very sensitive to movement, and I struggled to sleep with snoring, so do I. as well as toss and turn a lot subconsciously as I'm sleeping.

So, not a great combo. We bought a king-sized bed to help, but it hasn't helped much. We've been sleeping separately for a few months now, but I guess I always thought we'd end up trying it again. I brought it up one time in conversation, and he told me that he also wants us to sleep in the same bed, but he's come to realize that it may not be possible. He says that getting good sleep is more important because then our waking time together

is much happier and better. I cannot pretend that I don't enjoy the freedom of having a bed to myself. So it is not him just making me do this, but I always thought when you get married, you share a bed. And despite the freedom of separate beds, deep down, I do. still want to share a bed. I know I shouldn't care what others think, but it makes me worry that people think we're having issues. And also that when we do have struggles in the future, as all marriages do, that being separated at night will only make us feel more separate in general.

Good point. I also worry that our sex life will suffer, especially once we have kids. What do you two think. Is it possible to have a successful marriage and sleep separately? Any tips for sleeping together that I haven't already thought of? And any advice on having the conversation with my parents, my friends, et cetera. If we decide to continue down this road, I am sorry for the long question, but I so appreciate it if you decide to answer it. Love y'all and keep up the good work. Well, well wait a first there's so much to unpack here since when do you have to talk to your parents and your friends that's what stood out to me the most who has to know and listen listen anonymous if i said to you you when you talk to your friends and parents and tell them how many

times you have sex a day or a week or a year you might want to mention you're not sharing the same bed are you kidding you do not owe anyone any explanation of where you sleep and you can have a fabulous sex life do it in his room and then you could go to your nice clean bed and sleep sound there's also I don't know if he's a person that could do this but they have the sleep thing that helps them not snore there is a a thing so there's sleep apnea you know who knows I would say to you anonymous he needs to go and get diagnosed does he have sleep apnea? Is he overweight? Is he, you know, does he have obstructive airway disease? Did you hear that, Susan?

Obstructive, are you impressed? I knew that? Obstructive airway. I'm just saying this a lot of issues. But she tosses and turns too and there are mattresses out there that you can't feel the other one move. There are ways around that. But all in all, the whole thing taken in, there is nothing wrong with having separate rooms. It is early for it, but older people do it all the time. That's the point, Susan, right there. I wasn't going to say it, but of course, you know, now I have to. I think it bodes.

If you're sleeping separately every night, I think part of a good marriage, especially when you're young. Yeah, when you're older, you know, take your snoring and your dirty socks and get out of here. How many times you get up to go to the bathroom? Yeah, but when you're young, I think that could be detrimental to a marriage. I do. Yeah, they do, like she said, like she said, if we're not doing it now, if we're not together now, things happen in the marriage. And when you have kids, it's like two separate lives. I mean, I know that when I was newly, you know, married, you know, in the dark ages, we used to lie in bed at night before we'd go to sleep and we'd talk about our day.

It was like the intimacy without the sex part. You know, that was different. That was sex. Which they could still have. but think about it you're lying there and you're talking and you're getting drowsy oh got to get up i mean i don't know it just feels a little strange it does and i understand our concern but the main part for me you don't have to nobody has to know this unless he's telling people that yeah i don't know i would definitely get them to a doctor though there's things that they a newer device that you implant in the skin

that helps with the one with the button you press the button i don't know i don't know i don't your chest. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But talk to him. Now, I heard when you said he said sleep is important. It is. Because if you wake up too tired and you didn't have a good night's sleep, you're cranky. And that's when you start bickering or you go to work and you don't give it 100% because you can't because you're tired. These are all important issues. So start from scratch and see what's causing the snoring. If you can, earplugs, nose things, like try all these things. So sexy. You're, you know, here's the other thing. That's usually happening to 60 and 70-year-olds.

Really? Did you see, though, that she said she kind of likes it, that it's not all him? And then later she said, but I'd like to share that. I think Anonymous, you're feeling conflicted. I'm sure. I feel you're feeling conflicted. On the one hand, you know, you like your good rest. But I really think the issue here is get him checked out if there's something that.

that medically can be done. That's what I would do. And we wish to all the best luck. Tries the mirror plugs. And can I just say the other. Or how about five days a week during the school? I mean the school week, the work week. And then the weekends are, you know, you deal.

Well, let me ask you, wait, let me ask you another question that she has not thought of. What happens when the kids come? You can't roll over and tap him go, it's your turn to get up. Because he's in the other room. Put the speaker in his room. That's right. Unless he's breastfeeding, he won't even have a clue. And lock your door when you go to sleep so when the kids are coming, mommy, daddy, I feel sick.

The door's locked. They got to go to daddy. I totally get why you rode in because it is something. It's a little early for that to happen. And I hope you guys get to the bottom of it and figure it out at least. And by the way, congratulations on your wedding, on your marriage. I wish you a lifetime of love and happiness. What do you do when you travel and there's one bed in the room?

I'm sure they ask for two queens and she can hear them. And they get up grumpy. Then they go home and get their separate fed. Thanks again. Anonymous. We wish you the best, but try to figure it out. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately?

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I've been with my boyfriend for almost three years. years. Things have been mostly great between us, save a few hiccups centered around small arguments here and there. Long story short, my mom doesn't like him. She doesn't have much of a reason, in my opinion, but I can't help that her disapproval ends up making me question whether I'm in a relationship that can stand the test of time if she and him can't get along. My mom and myself have had a somewhat contentious relationship ourselves, mostly due to her poor choices, in staying with a man that wasn't good to my brother and me and ultimately choosing her marriage to my stepmother, a stepfather over her two kids. Anyway, back to the issue. I'm just going to interrupt

myself here. Aurora, that is the issue. Okay, back to the issue at hand. Can I truly count on and commit to a relationship when my mother doesn't approve of him? How would either of you feel in my shoes. Do I trust my own judgment and continue on with this relationship or read more into my mom's disapproval? I would genuinely appreciate your perspectives. You two are the best. Thank you so very much in advance for any advice you have to send my way. Well, I want to know what her mother's judgment and issues are as she's stating important facts about what something that she's seeing, the way he's treating her daughter like what is it this is a pretty general she just doesn't disapprove but there's a reason someone wouldn't disapprove i mean would disapprove am i right

not always that she just don't like them well that's a possibility yes i think i think ask yourself why is she saying this well because sometimes when we're falling in love love is blind baby we don't see the red flag like you would for me and guess what what would you would you would You see the red flags and someone else tells you you don't pay attention. This is true. But bring it to their attention and it gets in their head and they will notice eventually. It takes a long time. But there's that.

Okay. Wait a second. My mom have had a contentious relationship due to her poor choices. I don't mean to be rude here, Aurora. But if your mom has made poor choices and stayed with a man who didn't treat you and your brother well, really? You're going to value her opinion over your own feelings. This is your life, Aurora. You need to learn your own lessons.

You need to do what makes you happy. And if it doesn't work out, you have no one to blame but yourself. Not your mom is your mom. And I've seen cases like this where people, the kids don't like the stepdad. And there might be nothing wrong with him. they just don't care for him. She's claiming that he didn't treat them well and she chose him over them. We don't know if that's a feeling that she had or there was some issue.

That's a big. That's what I think, that's why interrupted when I read the question. I think Aurora, there's more to this relationship and more to this story than she simply doesn't like him. It may be tainted. She may just have issues around. who knows what, but I think you have to trust your own gut, trust your own heart. I'm going to tell you a little story when I met my husband, my mother-in-law, and father-in-law, God rest their souls, did not like me. They did not like me. My husband and I were married for almost 46 years.

My in-laws had their own really tough marriage issues, infidelity, all kinds of things. And I couldn't fight it. They just never liked me. And yet we were married for 46 years. So what did you, what did you do about it? Did it bother you that they didn't care for you? Did you speak up? Did you try to win the over? I spoke to my husband about it. My husband once said to them, they didn't change. He once said to them, Kathy and I have been married, I don't know at the time was like 35 years. We've been married 35 years. Do you have thinking you? need to get over it and start, I love her. Do you think maybe you need to get over it and start loving her to? Well, it's a 35 years. I don't blame, but I mean in the beginning, when you knew they didn't like you, you never went to her and talked, say, what is it? What is it with you? Yes, I did, and she would say, oh, no, we do, we do. But, you know, she didn't. And it was very clear. I'm not going to get into details, but trust me. It was very clear that they didn't like me.

And their marriage lasted forever. So you use your own judgment. Yes, that's what I'm saying. So Aurora, do what makes your heart sing. And if it doesn't work out, guess what? It's not because your mother didn't like him. It's because you and your boyfriend went ultimately down different paths. But be respectful to your mom. Or even have a conversation and figure it out why. Mom, why do you feel like this about him?

And another important thing that is in my mind, does your mom realize how you and your brother felt about the stepdad? You know, she's claiming her story right now. There's two sides to every story. Not that I'm putting you down. I'm glad you wrote in and I'm wishing you all the best. But open your eyes and take a clear picture of everything around you. But do what makes you happy.

Yeah, I agree. Mom can't control that. I agree. I agree. All right. now we're going to play you ready cat what would you rather we're going to switch off reading the prompt and we're both going to answer it and i'll start us off so never been able to use your phone again or be unable to have physical touch with another person for a year you know what i know this girl

name Susan and she always says... No, you're not answering for me. You're answering for yourself. No, you didn't let me finish. I'm adopting her answer. She always says both. I'm saying, neither. I couldn't do either one of those. I could. No, I know. You're going to say you could not use your phone.

Yeah, absolutely. I want to be able to say that, Susan, but think about it. I need to be able to hear from my children. In the romantic world, I would say... If you had a pick one. you know what if picks had wings they'd fly i can't pick one all right take the next one all right the next one is oh it had my word in it uh would you rather have an unlimited supply of wine but only be able to drink it from a sippy cup or a lifetime supply of coffee but it's always lukewarm

there's no brainer i take the wine lukewarm coffee is yeah coffee is gross that was a no brainer you're right have a partner who's amazing in the kitchen but terrible in bed oh god or great in bed but can't make a single meal that's fine I'll cook and I just said I while you're reading me I'm going well I'm the latter great in bed can't cook I mean that's an easy one too we got to get one these are too easy right here's the next one would you rather have the hiccups during an important meeting or sneeze uncontrollably during the first date. Hiccups. Since I don't work, I'm sneezing.

What about you? I said hiccups. I'd rather have the hiccups. All right, have a public fight with your ex on social media or accidentally send an embarrassing text to one of your kids that was meant for your partner. Well, let me just say, let me just say, you know what, I'm writing the rules here. I would never have it. a public fight with anyone on social media ever.

So, um, so, you know, I'm, I'm playing the fifth. I would not want to accidentally send a text to my kids. So we're moving on. We're not doing that one. Oh, God. We suck. Okay. All right.

Have to share your search history or our text, meaning Susan and Kathy, okay, text with each other with your first date. Oh, I'd share my text with you with, I mean, our text with the first date. So what we're not. You know what our text usually are? Susan, call me back. Help me pick this out. What should I wear? Susan, are you cooking tonight? Our text, if we are talking about stuff, it's on the phone. It's where nobody can record us or it's not, it's not in, you know, imprinted for his. How do I say this in French? What? Yeah, really. Como do you say in French, which is, how do you say in Spanish? That's what we were doing. Okay. All right, take the next one. All right. Would you rather be perpetually stuck in an awkward elevator ride with your ex?

Or be forced to share a bed with your least favorite past coworker for a week. I'll take that elevator with my ex any day. I'll take that elevator all day long, all day long. Okay, sit in a puddle and it looks like you peed your pants or actually pee your pants but get away with, it unnoticed. I mean, can I just say this happened to Susan when we're on vacation? I pee my pants when I lived toward. You know, there's surgery for that.

I did it. I don't pee anymore, but yes. Oh, really? You didn't pee while you're on vacation? Crying, laughing, crying. So you do pee when you laugh. Sometimes. Not the world wants to know. Okay. All right. Would you rather call out your Oh, Susan, would you rather call out your boyfriend for cheating and be wrong or be cheated on once, but you never find out about it? I wouldn't want to know. I wouldn't want to know.

I think if it was calling out my boyfriend for cheating and I was wrong, I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to be cheated on. Well, you would never know. So what you don't know don't hurt you. That's an easy one. Okay. Burp in your date's face when he tries to kiss you. No. Oh, God.

Or try to pass off your gas on your boyfriend's dog and totally get caught to lie. I'm all with that woof, woof. Oh, my God. Oh, come on. You're going to pass off. You're going to. I mean, like, excuse me. You're going to burp in the, oh, no, you're not.

I'll blame the dog. I'll blame the dog. On the burp? No, you're mixing the two jerks. I know. I mean, what are you going to do? Shit happens. Sometimes you have to belch.

Why, the guy's trying to kiss you. Well, no. Like, maybe he's on his way. I go, excuse me. I don't know. I don't do belts as much. It says burp in your day's face when he tries to kiss you. No.

I wouldn't do that. I'd probably try to blame the dog. I'm definitely blaming the dog. What if he doesn't have a dog? I'm still blaming the dog. Did you smell that? Ew. Did you for it?

What's wrong with your plants? Your plants are excreed in some odor. I would blame my partner. You farted. Ew, what is that? So disgusting. Oh my God. I can't believe it, but that does it for today's episode.

Kathy, these things are flying by. Are we just having fun or what? I think we're having a lot of fun. But you know what? I want other people. I hope that other people are laughing with us because you know what we've learned? Life is short. You better laugh and have fun along the way.

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