Bachelor Happy Hour - Double-Date Chat with Dean & Caelynn

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

Joe and Serena are LIVE from the Bachelor Mansion with fellow “Paradise” lovebirds Dean and Caelynn! The couples share the highs of their weddings and give us the inside scoop on their wedding planning experiences! Dean and Caelynn also get into matching tattoos, life and love after “Paradise,” and their wild skydiving experiences! Listen now and make sure to follow so you’re always caught up on all things Bachelor Nation! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

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And I'm Serena. And we are live at the Bachelor Mansion for the IHeart event. And we are here with Dean and Kalen. Hi, guys. Hello. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour with Dean and Kaylin. We're here at the Bachelor Mansion.

I feel like you just did a much better job. that I did. The matching. Okay. So for our listeners, I'm a little nervous. I'm off my game because it's the first time I've been back here since I got eliminated night one and it was just a terrible experience. Yeah.

But look at you now. Driving up in the van with Joe, it was so funny to look back and see him because he was sweating. I've never seen a man so wet from sweat before. Wet from sweat. Yeah. He was like, last time I was here didn't go so well for me. So, yeah.

Dealsian, we were not on the same season. No, I wasn't there for the season. No, just now he's saying. Just now. Just right. You were having flashback. Yeah, it was rough. It was rough.

Well, neither, fun fact, neither Joe or I have ever spent a night at the Bachelor Mansion because I was a COVID season. So we filmed at Nemekhalen and Joe went home night one. So you didn't spend the night here either. That is funny. Interesting. And you two made it, what you guys were both top four? We were both dumped after they met our families.

What does that say? Not good things. How are the in-law situations for you guys? I got to say, though, as far. as the place you can get dumped, it might be the best because you can placate the blame and be like, it's not my fault. It's my family's fault. I left after hometown. But you didn't you like, you left on your own accord. I did. Yeah. I did leave on my own accord, but same, same timeline. Yeah. There you go. That's a better way to leave. And you did kind of spend a night because you probably

didn't get dumped until like 6 a.m. It was like 8. It was like 8 a.m. Yeah. And I remember I was standing outside and I was interviewing and I think they wanted me to cry. And I was like, guys, I'm not going to cry. There's no way I'm going to cry. And then I left and I was so depressed. And then he cried for days. It was St. Patrick's Day in Chicago. So I went out. That's a good thing to come home to is like something fun. I feel like after going home. Did your buddies like rib you a bunch? Because you probably would be like, I'll be back in a month or two. And you're back the next day. I remember when I said, I called my friend Eddie and his wife answered. She's like, oh my God, Joe. I got said, whole fucking night one. But it's so crazy because knowing you like you're you're so handsome and you're so charismatic and

outgoing and you're like I don't understand we got to talk to Becca if we could we could call her but like there has to have been something that you like something must have well we were just in the living room and he's like I stood right here and I said no words in time and that's that was the problem well I when I stepped out of the limo I just I couldn't speak and I walked up to her and I couldn't speak but I was but words were coming out of mouth but nothing made sense it was all over the place and then I was just like hey I'm super nervous and then I just walked inside but she's like this guy's so weird if you came up to me it didn't say a word I'd be like yeah he's making it to my top five no question

well you're a little different than Becca just based on looks but yeah okay enough enough about me let's stop talking about me wow that's the first time just ever said that that's not true even though we did fan questions yesterday and I feel like I was really killing You were doing a great job. All right, guys, how was, how was the wedding? How was wedding planning? Who handled it? Oh, me.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. You did a lot of the work. We had great wedding planners. Great wedding planners. I came up with a lot of ideas.

But I was talking to someone today and she's like, your wedding looked beautiful. I was like, honestly, I had no idea how it was going to look. Yeah. Like, we kind of went into it blind in terms of how they were going to decorate it. And they brought my Pinterest board to life. So I'm super happy with that. We were kind of the same. Like we had they'd shown us like photos like flowers and signs and we're like yeah sure like looks great like whatever we just kind of had like an overall vibe and vision that we wanted.

So like walking in and seeing it for the first time, you're like, whoa. Yeah. And even not being as included in the planning process for me seeing it for the first time, it felt like I was like a guest at my own wedding. It was awesome. We would do something and then we go to the section that we just left and it was completely different. I'd be like, holy cow, this is amazing. And it was just so cool because I'm like, oh, everyone's here for me and Kaylin. But like, I'm also being surprised every time I go to the next event for whatever it is.

You know, so it was really fun from that aspect for me. Any bad surprises? No. No. What was the best? Well, there's a bad surprise somewhere. Well, I was recapping with Serena. There was like not a bad surprise.

Everything was perfect. Everything was seamless. But, you know, people get drunk and make mistakes. And there was a mistake that happened. It was tough. It was tough because we had like a certain bed. limit. There was like 78 beds on the property that everyone was staying at and every bed was accounted for. Is that we were referring to? And there was one night where like one of the beds that

was allocated to Kalin's family got took by another guest that was like maybe parting too hard or something like that. And so it just turned to this thing of like, oh, that bed didn't belong to them. And it was just one of those situations. Okay. Yeah. So that's not that big. That's not big of yeah. Do you, Dean, do you think that you would have, would you have been okay without having a wedding? Yeah, 100%. You guys did the courthouse. I would have been okay with not having a wedding, but I will say, you're looking to me crazy. No, no, I know what you're going to say. I loved our wedding. I actually really enjoyed it. I think like going away for a week the way we did was so much fun. Right. And I say,

I say that too, but the wedding weekend was the best weekend of my life. Like, no questions asked, no hands down. So with that, with the hindsight of that, I would say, like, I'm glad that we had the wedding and I'm glad that we were able to do all that and celebrate with everyone. But if you asked me before the wedding, I'd be like, no, let's just go to the courthouse right now and just sign the paperwork and just be husband and wife. Yeah. But there's something so special about like you're, everyone's there for you guys. Everyone's there celebrating your love.

And what I love to was like when I go to a party and I feel socially awkward because I'm like talking to someone in a corner that I don't really know that well, it doesn't happen at a wedding because you know everyone there so well. And so you don't get pulled into these random conversations that you don't really want to be part of. Yeah. I like that a lot. Very special.

Yeah. What was the best moment for you guys? That's hard. You know what? Actually, I do know the best moment. I was very, I wasn't stressed in like a, oh my God, everything has to go perfect way. I was just really nervous the day of the wedding. Like there's a lot of emotions flowing. You kind of want to like check everything off the list.

Like you got to do the vows and you got to do the speech and like all of these things. We finished our speech. We finished our speech with a shot with Wells. And the relief I felt in that moment of just like, oh my gosh, this day has been so perfect. And I can like just enjoy it now. and, like, there's nothing on the to-do list anymore. We did the first dance. Like, all the things have been checked off

and we can just party with our friends was an amazing feeling. I got to say, too, sorry, before you go, the thing that you posted about your vows. Oh, that's what I was. It was legitimately the funniest thing I've ever heard to my entire life. So I was like, where the fuck did he come up with that?

That's so good. Joe had been workshopping that for a minute. So, okay, so I was, once that, Joe, I was just worried. I was like, I just want this joke to land. Because if it doesn't land, I'm going to look like an idiot. There's no way around that it's going to be where it's going to be awkward. When we decided we were going to get married and then we're like, I'm like, why don't we ask Wells?

I think that would be really special. We'd love it to be him. Like he's been part of my journey basically the whole time. And then when he said yes, I think I came up with that joke. And that was a year. before our wedding I came up with that joke right after I asked him

and I was sitting in the living room I'm like oh that would be so funny and I wrote it It's good You'll land it You nailed it And I gotta say too It put a lot of pressure on me

Because you guys got married Like a week or two before us And I saw you I saw you post that And I was like Okay I gotta do something I gotta get a laugh

out of the crowd somehow Because it was so good I loved it so much It's just even like watching it On social media And I Yeah it was just so funny Well, it's so funny because I had a few people be like, how did you feel about that joke?

Because your reaction, you're kind of like, I couldn't really tell about your reaction. I was like, no, I knew this joke was coming. I didn't have a reaction because I'd heard it for 365 days. So there was just no like shock value on my end. Like he asked me if it was okay to say. I was like totally fine. I wish I didn't ask you, but I just felt like if you would have been upset about that, it could have ruined like your special moment and then I would have felt.

No, I'm glad you asked me. I think it allowed me to, like, go into it, like, not thinking you were talking about me. Yeah. I think I still would have laughed, but, like, it's just hard to know how you're going to feel in that moment. You guys had a tattoo artist at your wedding. Yeah. We did. How was that?

We went back and forth for a while, but the guy who gave me my very first tattoo is, like, right near Aspen. And it was, it completed our couple's tattoo that Dean got two years before. And so I'm like, it's kind of perfect. And he was available, Matt. Completed, though? Completed a couple's tattoo? the airplane. And you have the parachute guy. That's right. So yeah. So on like our fifth date or something, we were like, let's get matching tattoos. So stupid. Don't recommend it. If you're listening

to this, I want to get tattoos with your boyfriend. Five dates. Don't do it. So we were like, okay, I'll get a parachuter and you can get an airplane because I like to skydive and she likes to travel. So it kind of worked out. And I go and I go first and get a tattoo. Okay, that's not matching, matching where it was like each other. But his parachute guy is supposed to be jumping out of my plane, but they can be their own things. And she had zero tattoos at this point. And so I go and get my little parachuter guy. And she's like, I'm not getting a tattoo.

Oh my gosh. And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Also, a week prior, he took me skydiving and I did a jump. I went up in the airplane and then I just stood there. Have you ever, have you ever jumped? I went a year later. With friends, not with me. I've skydied.

It's great. Would you do it again? I hated every second. No, it's a bad experience. Wait, you didn't enjoy it. It's so cool. I hate it all the way up. And then all the way, when I got down, I got down, I like, I was like a 12 year old.

I threw a fit. I was like, this is horrible. Like, I'm nauseous. I hated it. It was scary. I'm done. I'll never do this again. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly.

And now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK story time podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

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Serena, have you skydived? I have not. My dad is petrified of heights. And my parents were pretty relaxed parents. They didn't have, like, major, major rules growing up. But that was one of the, like, rules was, like, nothing with extreme heights. And I don't feel, like, passionate about it in any way that I would, like, my dad would, like, kill me.

Yeah. It's not worth it. No, it's not worth it. I was like, no, I feel called to jump out of a plane. Like, sure, but, like, I just don't feel that way at all. That's fair. So I'll stick with the ground. That's fair.

And you just jump yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got, like, 100 jumps or something like that. I did, I forget what it's called, but I did like the skydiving simulators, though. Like in a tunnel. Yeah, in a tunnel. Yeah. That's how you practice doing that before you jump so that way you don't get all distorted in

the air kind of thing. Any scary moments? I've got like line twists, but it's pretty standard where you like you open your parachute and the lines get all twisted. and you're just like spinning around. You're like, okay, I guess I'm going to die. But then it straightens out and you're fine. Also for your 30th birthday.

What? Wasn't it your 30th birthday where I push you out? Yeah. Yeah. That was scary. She pushed me out of a hot air balloon for my 30th birthday. And she shoved me way harder than I was expecting. I did tell her to shove me as hard as you can.

He said push me as hard as you can. So I pushed him so hard. She pushed me. And the thing about a hot air balloon versus an airplane, airplane's going 100 miles an hour. So you have instant wind resistance. But out of a hot air balloon, you're zero miles an hour. And so it takes time for the wind.

to kick you. And so you can orient it your body accordingly. And so I like was just flipping and flipping. And I was like, when am I going to stop flipping? Because there's nothing you can do about it. And so eventually you like straighten out and figure it out. There was one time, we're getting really off topic here about skydiving. No, no, it's fine. It was one time in Alaska. So we were skydiving under the Nali in Alaska. It was amazing. We were taking this seaplane Cessna up to like seven or eight thousand feet and jumping out of it over this frozen lake. It was the best experience of my life. And we would open the door and crawl out onto the float of the Cessna to like stand on the float for a little bit before we jumped just for the

experience but the door going 100 miles an hour it doesn't open and like you can't get out especially with a skydiving rig on your back and so you get like snagged on your way out and so I was like trying to get my way out of this door and I couldn't and then I get out finally and the door like slams into me and pushes me off the plane and so I have to like run backwards on the float and there's like a tail rotor or whatever you want to call it on an airplane and so you have to like If that thing hits you, you're probably going to get decapitated. And somehow I squeaked between it. And it was in the moment, like I didn't realize what had happened.

But looking back at the footage, I was like, oh, that definitely could have been the end of my life. All right. I'm going to bring this thing back to Bachelor in Paradise. A question that you guys have probably answered, I just want to know for myself. When you guys left Paradise, how long after did you know it was going to work? Okay, we got asked us in a fan question. and, I don't know if he's ever answered this before, but was there like a moment where you're like,

oh, this is, this might go. I mean, we've talked about it to ourselves, but I don't think we were talked about it. I probably knew sooner than Dean did. Play sooner. And like going into the relationship, I thought it was going to end. Like, I, because he dumped me on Paradise,

I was like, yeah, it's probably just going to happen again. This isn't going to last. And then as our relationship progressed and as we kind of grew together, it took a couple months where I was like, wait, actually, maybe this could be. Come on. You knew it was going to work the day that we left. No chance. I was so scared of you. I was like, he's going to break up with me again. So I detached myself a little bit. Oh, yeah. But you knew that you were. Like if he was willing, you knew you were willing. Oh, yeah. If it was up to you. Yes, yes. Okay. I always was in. Between you guys, as far as like geography. Where did you live? She was in Beverly Hills. I lived in Venice. Okay. Well, he was living in a van. Yeah. Well, he was living in a van. Yeah. But stationed out of Venice, I guess. So we were close. You were stationed out of my apartment. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. So there. in Kaelin's driveway.

Not far. What about you, Dean? We had her speed bumps in the beginning of the relationship. We never did, so. Come on. No, we did it. No, it's actually been perfect. Our whole, our whole, no, we did.

We did. Her family was really. My family struggled with the speed and unusualness of it all. But internally, just in the relationship, no external factors, we did not have any speed bumps. Which was crazy. Which was crazy. We were like, this is, like, you're kind of waiting for it to come. The speech of the engagement is fast.

Yeah, but you guys still took your time to get married. I feel like the engagement is just like a precursor to like now we're kind of dating with this like umbrella of more seriousness to it. But we also had like the different country aspect. We had like the age gap aspect. Yeah. But I always said even when we got engaged, I was like when we went to the hotel the next day, I remember I was like, I'm taking this serious. But like we could break up. Yeah.

Like it's not like. We're not like bound to each other just because we did this. But we knew like 10 days after leaving I think so There were some times that we might have broken up In the beginning stages Like in the first six months There was probably like two times

Two or three times where we were like I never personally seriously considered it And I'm sure she didn't even seriously consider it But there were some things that we had to work through That if we didn't really know that we wanted to be together We probably would have just been like Whatever let's just end this You know but I think

Yeah So but for me I knew the moment I talked about this in my vows actually The moment I fell in love with not fell in love, but the moment I knew, or at least like recognized that I was in love with her, I was on a ski trip in the LaSalle's in southern Utah, and we were like skinning up this huge mountain and skiing down it from my brother's bachelor party. It was amazing. And we were all sleeping in this like little yurt, like 10 of us. And we were doing, uh, we were just like drinking a lot

and maybe ate a little bit of mushrooms. I don't know if you guys can air that. So like, probably none. So I think you could air. I mean, it's just a little bit. Just a little excessive amount. It wasn't a dramatic dose. But I remember it was like 3 a.m. and we were going to bed and I'm like laying there. There's no cell phone reception or anything. And I like just didn't feel comfortable laying down. I was like sleeping on the floor and I just like couldn't go to sleep.

And so the only thing that I could do to think to like put myself at ease or my comfort myself was to scroll through photos of us and our dog and like her. And like that brought me back to earth. And so that was kind of I woke up the next morning and I was like, oh, shit. I love this girl. Yeah. also you were so jaded by all of the previous relationships I have so many

and you were like I absolutely will never get into another bachelor relationship again and then yeah I said that I said that too really I meant it but honestly when we saw when you guys came down for our season oh yeah that like you guys were at our engagement yeah I forget that sometimes

when I first saw you guys that like like calmed me down Like, that actually, like, really helped me. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, yeah, they're cool and they're normal and this actually does work. Yeah, kind of like is like... And I remember, I was like, okay, I'm not... You're not totally crazy.

Yeah. Because in the moment, you're like, am I so crazy right now? I mean, you guys didn't get engaged, but still, like, you were together and in love and you're like, you're so disconnected from the outside world and you're just like, am I just in this bubble? For sure. And I'm going to leave and be like, whoa. So, yeah, I do agree. Like, seeing you guys, it was like, okay.

Okay. No, no, no. Like, I'm not totally insane. Like, people, other people have done this too. Yeah. You guys are why this has. Shut up. I got to say too. I don't, so I don't know Joe super well. But I do remember seeing him the day after you guys got engaged. And I went up to him and I was like, so how are you feeling? And he looked at me dead in the eye and he goes, honestly, I've never felt better. Like he's, he was so confident. Yeah, I was like, I was like, because, you know, you and I are kind of in the same pathway of like we haven't had successful relationships. And so we're a little cautious with it. Yeah. We're right. next to each other in seasons, like one than the other. Right. Like you're always a step behind. So it's not that big of it. But yes. But yes.

And I remember you looked at me and you were so confident and so composed and you were like, I 100% confident in what I just did. And I was like, oh, shit. I was not expecting to do that. Wow. I didn't know that. I also remember at breakfast too, like seeing the couples that got engaged. And like the way that they interacted and the way that you guys interacted

was like super sweet and special. You were like skipping. Oh yeah. We saw you guys at breakfast too. We talked you for a while. And we were totally like I let up and dowing every single couple that walked in. Oh yeah. We were judging everyone.

and the way that you like skipped away and Joe like bent down and kissed your forehead or something. It was cute. It was pretty clear from us to see that like you guys were definitely in love. Except the engagement and we've told you guys this where we thought you were going to break up with her watching because we didn't have any of it. I was so horrible. I was like his body language

sucks. I was panicking. I was panicking because I was like what is in I had I was confident because I had given it so much thought because we do have a large age gap and I was just like I don't want, like, I don't want to fuck someone's life up because I'm reckless hair. So I really wanted to make sure that I was super confident.

But when I was standing there, I was, I was panicking. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. And now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young.

professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime

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media strategy, are building an alternative to that. On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, I sat down with a brother behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up, why audience interaction is the key to political influence

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And I didn't know that. I didn't know that, obviously. So I'm, like, pouring my heart out. I think it's this, like, fun, beautiful day. He's not looking at me. He's sweating. He's fidgeting. I think

I was sweating so bad Any other situation But I was just like So thrown off I didn't know what to do I would have stopped And like are you good Like I considered stopping my speech

Multiple times To be like Do you want to look at me Like are we okay Are you breaking up with me Like what is happening Like I'm getting terrible Terrible energy from you right now

And I'm trying to like Pour my heart out Like this is This is not a great moment And then once you went I was like this is all Peace together I understand what's happening now

It was tough from our perspective to because we didn't hear anything. All that we could do is see. That sucks that they didn't give you guys any like headphones or anything. Right. And so the whole time we're like, we're pretending like, we're watching each couple. They're like, nope.

And I'm talking for Joe and she's talking for you. Oh, yeah. We were, we were pretending. We knew what you guys were saying. And then Joe gets down on a knee and we're like, oh, my God. And he's like, I'm sorry, Serena. Oh, wait. What?

I'm sorry, Serena. I'm now going to propose to you. But I agree. Like the whole bringing, you know, not to dole on that, but they'll bring the X thing down is, that's it. Wait, so you didn't know, you were speaking and then he didn't tell you until he started speaking? Yeah, that's how he started his speech. I started and said, I want to let you know my ex was just here. Which usually I would have been like, you didn't need to tell me in that moment, but he actually did need to tell me in that moment because he was acting so bizarre

that that that, but that's not why. But that's not why. I know that's not why. But at the time that gave me enough of a reason to be like, okay, he's not breaking up with me. And then when you propose, I was like, oh, no, this is why you're acting so crazy. I'm just, I'm just, I'm You are ring in your back pocket. I'm socially awkward and I'm nervous and I have a ring in my pocket. I don't know if you're going to say yes. It was 100 degrees. It was so hot.

It was brutal. Okay. Let's talk about honeymoon. Yeah. Back to you guys. Honeymoon. In three days we're leaving for Tanzania. Yeah.

For how long? Like a week and a half? Yeah, like eight days, eight, nine days. It actually worked out incredibly well. So we've been planning this. I tell the story. And every time I tell it, you always give me a look as if I shouldn't be telling it. Well, because you tell it weird.

Do you want to tell it? No, you tell it. So we've always wanted to do a safari in Africa, whether it be like start in South Africa and go somewhere else, go to Tanzania, whatever it might be. But it's tough to get out there on a budget. And I love traveling on a budget. She is a little bit more, you like to travel comfortably. I like luxury.

You like comfort. I too. I don't like luxury. Yes, we're with you, Kailen. And so it's hard for. us to travel, not hard, but we always have disagreements about, like, she wants to apply first class, I want to be in the cheapest seat

possible. But we can't afford first class. No, no one can. I don't even understand how they price those first class ticket. First class is crazy. But even business is crazy. It's insane. It's like legitimately is insane. So we wanted to do a honeymoon in South Africa and we were talking about it for a long time, but then we wanted to

buy a house in Colorado and so we're like, well, if we're buying a house, we can't afford a honeymoon. And so it was just kind of like, this weird back and forth. And then eventually National Geographic reached out to us and they're like, we're going to lead a trip to Tanzania for a safari. Do you guys want to come or does Dean want to come? And I was like, yeah, 100 percent. Can my wife come with me? And they're like, yeah, 100%. And so it was this weird thing where like we wanted to go there. We were going to pay for a trip out there. And then that's the exact dates. We were going to go to Namibia and then Tanzania is fairly, is it

north? It's like northeast of South Africa. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Namibia is a different country. I thought you're talking about Tanzania. But it was just crazy. It's like exactly what we wanted. Yeah. And so, and they were like, we'll fly your first class. And I was like, yeah, this is our honeymoon. There you go. That's amazing. And to go with like all of these insane photographers that Nat Geo deem's incredible photographers is going to be so cool for us to learn from. Me especially because I'm not as good as Dean. That's not true at all. Oh, it's very true. But I'm excited. I think it's going to be a cool. So yes, to answer your question, we're going on our honeymoon in three days to Tanzania. Yeah. That's amazing. We went to, we went to Italy. Oh, nice.

Yeah. I wish we would have did something like Africa. No, I don't. I don't live. No, Italy's amazing. We did Lake Como, Florence, and then like countryside of Tuscany. Italy is the perfect honeymoon destination. Which is like what we did too. Lake Como Tuscani. We did an Italy trip a year or two ago and it was maybe the best trip of our lives. Like, it's so great. Oh my gosh. Tuscany for me is it. Oh, it's so beautiful. Yes. Also, Como might be the coolest place I've ever been to. I loved Como. It's our favorite place. Yeah. I think it's because we stayed at the bougies Hotel. Where did you stay in Tuscany? In Tuscany. The Mandarin orange.

No, we stand at the Mandarin in Lake Como. Oh, yeah. Jesse Palmer stayed there. He said it was awesome. Oh, it was so, great. Is that what you guys stayed? No, we stayed at Villa Dieste.

Nice. But we want to, we want to like stay at the Mandarin too. The Mandarin is it looks really nice. But then in Tuscany, it was our friend's birthday and her dream was to go to the Belmont. And they just have beautiful hotels. That's where we say. You stay at the Belmont in Tuscany?

Yeah. We really ball out for a honeymoon. We've never spent so much on a hotel room. Yeah. It's so expensive. It's the castle. Yeah. That's the one.

Yeah. It's where Kim Kardashian was proposed to by Justin Bieber. Oh, really? Kim Kardashian and Justin Bieber. I don't know. I remember getting there. You'd be like, this is the place where. No, Justin proposed to Haley out of Belmont, but not that Belmont.

Yeah. We got there as my friend's birthday and his mom covered their room and all that stuff. And we get there and we didn't have a reservation. I was like, hey, can we get a room for the night? Like our friend's birthday is tonight. And they're like, yeah, we only have. Swiping that credit card. We only have sweets available.

And I was like, fuck. okay, how much is that? And it was like two grand or something. It's $2,500. For a night at a hotel. No, it was crazy. It was one night. It was one night.

It was insane. But it was the best of my life. And we did a cooking class there. It was the most beautiful property. The nicest hotel we've ever stayed at. It was incredible. And it was our honeymoon. So we were like, we're going for three nights.

We're up all out. And honestly, we really enjoyed it. It was amazing. Again, it was one night. And to have all of your wealthy friends standing there as you like hear the number, you're like, yeah, just swipe my card. Yeah, it was a little, a little. Oh, because so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, Chad was looking at me right in the eyes and he goes, I was just standing there staring. Are you going to do it? You're actually right. We were peer pressure at. I was pure pressure at least. Like, Chad was looking at me and I was like, ah, Chad's going to think so much less than me if I don't do this right now. If we go down the street. Yeah, we're going to stay at a hostel. We're just going to sleep and attend on the road. All right. Well, I can't wait to see your photos and your videos from your hundred.

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