Bachelor Happy Hour - Drama, Babies, and Icks | Golden Hour

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into more of your questions! We kick off with a recap of Monday night’s “Bachelor” episode. Then, we get into our question of t...he day: What’s one piece of advice you’d give someone before they lose their virginity? Next, we’re answering your fan questions about family drama! From parents not getting the memo on you being child-free, to lovers with incompatible opinions on kids, we’re covering it all. Plus, we end today’s episode with a new game: Icky or Picky? Is it an ick, or are some of us just being a little picky? Tune in to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your... free IHeart Radio app, search emergency intercom, and listen now. I'm Jamel Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by all-time great Hooper and basketball analyst
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Starting point is 00:00:58 Make sure you listen to this episode. SOTUS Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Why are TSA rules so confusing? You got a hood of you. I'll take it all! I'm Manny. I'm Noah. This is Devin.
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Starting point is 00:01:59 Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stories. The detective comes driving up fast and just like screeches right in the parking lot. I swear I'm not crazy, but I think he poisoned me. I feel trapped. My breathing changes. I realize, wow, like he is not a mentor. He's pretty much a monster. But these aren't just stories of destruction. They're stories of survival.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I'm going to tell my story and I'm going to hold my head up. Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back, everybody, to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. so much for coming back and listening to Kathy and I. We are so ready to jump into another episode where we get to give advice and talk about our lives. And I'm just kind of like a broken record, Susan, with this allergies, I can't. I just, I'm telling you week after week.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I want you to take medicine. You know what I want to do? I want to go to Fiji and lie on a beach somewhere. Okay. Well, we can do that. We can do that. I mean, really, it's really bad. But all right, until I get on the beach, which I keep saying, you know, which we should be there in just a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Today, though, we're going to answer more of your fan questions. Make sure you're submitting all of your questions and comments to us at bachelornation.com slash golden hour. We love reading them. We love hearing from you. So please, please continue to do that. Yes. Send us everything. Your questions.
Starting point is 00:03:56 updates your comments you can do it all and you can also DM us on instagram at bachelor happy hour okay time to get into the episode kathy we got to start with the latest bachelor episode come on now what did you think okay i got to say this coming off the bat when i first got married i lived in scotland and so it was really hard for me to watch especially since it was right on the anniversary of my husband's death. We lived in Scotland first two years of our marriage. It is a beautiful country. I want to know why you and I haven't gotten to get, you know, go there on
Starting point is 00:04:33 a show, but maybe that... One of the things I said was, I am pissed. I mean, seriously, Scotland? Really? Listen, where do we go? Susan, why are you complaining? You got to go to the Santa Monica Pier and have cotton candy. All right, let's talk. When Grant
Starting point is 00:04:49 first said, Scotland, it's coming out of the romance books. He's right. Scotland is this beautiful misty you know beautiful moors the helicopter ride oh my god it was the best date ever dressed in royalty she looked gorgeous and then he put the necklace on her the pink dress wait i want to know does she get to keep that damn diamond necklace no no but did you notice how they shared really similar stories that's what i was going to say i didn't know that gave me goosebumps so was it so i told you before um she comes from newton mass where i come from she is
Starting point is 00:05:25 from my hometown. And my sister knew her uncle. So like, I feel like she's family here. Juliana, your family. But he had the tattoo, everything. No, no, no. Somebody in her family had addiction issues. And he was saying that Grant's dad had addiction issues. So they bonded over that. I love that. But, but Susan, did you, did you wonder where their connection came from at all? I like her. I like her a lot. She's very bummed. probably she yeah no I didn't I think they connected that night I really do but I also think he's telling everybody that he's connecting with them yeah which makes it more disingenuous right yeah harder to believe trying to figure it out then we get to carolina okay wait wait wait
Starting point is 00:06:12 did you love the dancers they're called highland dancers like I was watching the bad pipers and let me just tell you how difficult it is to blow and get sound out when he was trying to do it And he did that grant props to you. That is amazing. But here's the thing. The date was beautiful. Her pink dress was gorgeous. Juliana really has good connection.
Starting point is 00:06:35 But, you know, I'm just wondering where it came from. I just, you know, I just don't work in there all along. They just haven't showed too much. Maybe it's the edit. Okay. So then we get Carolina on the group date. And, you know. She's pouty.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And then she gets blamed. But he did ask her. When Dina was saying, you took him away today, too, and ruined all of our time. She had a plus space. Yeah. But you know what? She, I don't know if anyone picked up on it, but when she said, you know, all the girls, I found this interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:09 And it's typical, I think, of younger women. All the girls were talking about how they thought that they were having this romantic conversation. In other words, they thought it was all going positive. when in fact their conversation together was not warm, fuzzy. It was, you know, what's wrong? What are you thinking? And she was saying she wasn't sure she's ready. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:07:34 They all thought that that conversation was about love and them being in love. And really, they didn't have a connection. They both were saying, this is really hard. I just found that interesting that the girls jumped to the assumption. Yeah, they did. They did. But you could tell by her face the whole time. She was not involved.
Starting point is 00:07:52 She was not being a team player. It was a group date. And it was the smallest group date that they had so far. And she was not being a team player. I agree. When Zoe finally got to talk to him and made her feel better. Yeah. I mean, that was really cool, too.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And she did get a rose. I know. But here's the thing. I think that I can't help but believe there's more going on than what we see. Because Carolina is painted to be. And maybe she is, you know, we know how edits go, zip it. She is someone who seems to need a lot of attention and isn't afraid to go after it. But I feel like there's something that we just aren't seen.
Starting point is 00:08:39 There's something that just doesn't seem right to me. I just feel like she could be moody, you know. And she did take some, if you will, in the beginning on the show with all the girls on the couch. again last night they didn't gang up but and then uh what was it seraphina and said it's over it's just we're not talking about we're just not talking about it was cold i was imagining me sitting there hearing that yeah i felt again though i feel like susan you're right i thought that was cold and a bit harsh but on the other hand we don't know what was going on prior to we just don't know and that's what's hard for me on this show i feel like it's a little disjointed where i'm
Starting point is 00:09:20 How are we getting to where we're getting? But let's talk about Latia's Day. Did you know the Dreek Day? That's what they call it? I got to be honest. I've never heard of it. I thought that was interesting. I was very proud, may I say, if you go, just a little point of fact here, if you go to
Starting point is 00:09:41 Edinburgh and you say Edinburgh, you will be stoned. And they all knew that it was Edinburgh. So I gave them great props for that. I loved how Latia and Grant tied the infinity. Now, I liked them together. They were really easy. It was fun. They seemed to have a natural connection.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah, they did. She is a nurturing spirit. I think he likes that. And how about him saying how he eats. He ate alone and, you know, she was wiping his tear. That was just really beautiful. Susan, did you, I don't know, but tell me, I was going to ask about that. does grant i think that's the only time he cried on one-on-one i believe so and that makes me think
Starting point is 00:10:27 as much as i love my hometown girl i feel like he's got this very strong connection with litia um that i'm not seen with the other girls but it's it you know the look it's the moment that's what they're talking about that brings yes yeah now her Mormon faith and the fact that she hasn't brought home men and she's only dated has never dated outside of her faith I think that could be really tricky I really do I mean you and I joke about you know you're full-blooded Italian see on hometowns
Starting point is 00:11:02 that's where it's going to happen we'll see how that goes I think that could be Kathy what did you think of Carolina taking Dina upstairs towards right before the rose ceremony happened and did the hugging and the because Dina was on her side hide in the beginning. And then she turned when she saw things that she wasn't seeing. Remember,
Starting point is 00:11:23 she used to stick up for her? I was glad that they kind of made up. I mean, I feel like, you know, I have to be honest, I feel like maybe there might have been some pressure to see what happened when they went upstairs. Again, to me, I'm struggling because it seemed a little bit like why is she doing that at the you know they're standing for the you and i've stood for a rose ceremony i know i know i know you don't i thought i thought she really wanted to clear the air because she knew dina had her back for so long and she felt guilty or she knew she was going home and she wanted to leave on i know how would she know i think she felt it maybe she said when she said to grant they're sitting on that rock when she said you know i don't i can't remember exact words
Starting point is 00:12:13 but, you know, I just not sure about all this. I saw a change in his face. Like, you're not sure. It's over. Like, so I kind of feel like she had the sense she was going home. And I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't think she's as bad as what they pay her out to me.
Starting point is 00:12:31 But I'm, again, I just kind of question. Because there's drama on every show. Every show. Just so happen to be hers. Her time. But I wanted to say one more thing that Grant, when he cried, he was saying, He wanted family and a family who would love him and have dinners together. She said that's exactly what I want.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And he said he felt like she was a safe place. And I think, you know, as good looking and all the things that he has, I do think that he has some insecurities. And I feel like with Latia, he doesn't, he doesn't. He was sharing how much he wants a family. And he's been sharing that since night one. Deep, deep conversation they were having. I didn't see him go that deep.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Like he listened to other girls things, issues, wishes, you know. Yeah. But this one was pretty deep. I like it, but I still love our Juliana. Oh, I love Juliana. I told you, hometown. But to me, it's coming down to those two. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I feel like it's going to be between those two. And that's why I'm really anxious to see. I love the preview about Juliana's father. Like, I'm a battalion. I thought, oh, I got nervous when I sold that. I thought, oh, my God. The baseball bat's coming back out.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You think that scared them? Do you think it scares them? I think it would scare the hell out of me. Let's talk about who went home. It leaves us with Carolina. Carolina, adios. And Seraphina and Alex, I felt sorry for them. You know, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,
Starting point is 00:14:13 like he had a connection with them. But you have to get it down, though. You have to. I know. But what we saw, for me, was a disconnect. What we saw was having this great conversation, not so much with Alex recently, but definitely with Serafina. And so I was like, wow, you know. I mean, I'm, do you see the big connection with Dina?
Starting point is 00:14:37 I don't. I liked her from the start. I like her. I think he's impressed by who she is. is how she carries herself. She's intelligent. I think he likes the professionalism in her. But I don't see the passion.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I don't feel the passion. Yeah. Maybe I am just jaded now. You know, maybe that's what the deal is. Because I feel like he's told, first of all, I think Grant is a connection. But he's told everyone, you know, I can see you having a family with you. I can see having a family with you.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I can see having a what you be my wife. I could see us having a family together, meet dinner together. So I'm sitting there like, I feel like we're playing Russian roulette here, or darts, you know, let's just throw one and see where it lands. But, you know, what about on our show?
Starting point is 00:15:25 We didn't know what was happening with the other women and Gary at the same time. You know, we only knew our moments. You know what I mean? Well, I guess that's how it works. Because I watched. But, yep, I look forward to see what happens. I can't.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I'm just, so wait, do you want to vote? vote who do you think it's going to be the fine who do you think it's going to win oh who's I can't say it's who's the other it's wait who is the who's the who's the fourth we've got lutea we have juliana we have dina who's the fourth Zoe Zoe is the fourth and I haven't really seen a great connection with Zoe either they they're comfortable too yeah well comfortable so if you had to go out on the limb who are you going with are you going with juliana i like it to be juliana but i think
Starting point is 00:16:18 the uh the night when they yeah gosh i don't know cath well i i would like i said tabloids thing but i want to i want to be at the parade in newton massachusetts when if juliana's the one i want to you know i want to have the golden bachelor bachelor bachelor parade with the you know gorgeous a young one but i kind of feel like letia they have a more a bigger connection but we'll see you know all right well Well, this is fun.
Starting point is 00:16:43 We can't wait for next week. Now, you ready, Susan? Let's get into the question of the day. Here we go. I'm Jamil Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.
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Starting point is 00:21:14 I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me. Yeah? But the whole pretending and cold, you know, it takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasasas Come Again as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. What's one piece of advice
Starting point is 00:21:36 you'd give someone before? they lose their virginity. Susan, to me, this is so simple. So simple. Be sober. You, you know, good point. It might be somebody you don't ever want to wake up next to again. It may be a guy, maybe just a thrill, maybe just be fun. You just maybe wanted to get laid. Yes, I said that. But that's all okay. As long as you do it with your full faculties, you've got to be sober. Don't be high. Don't be drunk. And not only that, make sure you're safe and make sure you're in the right environment and that it really has meaning for you.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I'm sure you're not losing your virginity just but lose your virginity. It has to be taken seriously. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, to me, it would. No, no, no, no. Well, you're asking me my advice. That would be my advice. To young people, you think young people only have sex with people that they want a serious relationship
Starting point is 00:22:34 with? I hope everybody thinks that. Oh, Susan, honey. All right. I'm old. What do you want for me? I mean, it also, you got to, you know, you got to protect yourself. You have to use condoms, you know. It's what I said, protect yourself, be safe. Well, now, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:22:49 There's other, you know, there's other ways. I want any guy I'm sleeping with if I don't know him well, I want him to come with a lab report. I want his blood test that was done last week. Now, I have a funny story about that, but it's not for, it's not for public consumption. Okay, so we're going to get right into the fan questions. Yeah, let's get away from virginity. Who even remembers what that's like? I'll read the first one, Kath. It's from Anonymous. Okay, go, go, go.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Hi, Kathy and Susan. I really need your help. I've been with my boyfriend for a couple of years now, and the other night, he unexpectedly sprang a big conversation on me. He was talking about our future with shared finances, where we might want to live, et cetera. There are all things we should be talking about. I just wasn't prepared to have that conversation. Anyways, he told me that he wants to have children, and I was really shocked. I always knew he was more open to it than I was, but I didn't expect him to want kids as much as he does. He says he's flexible and emphasizes that he's not totally sure. Here's my problem. I have the same feelings about my desire to be child free. I can see that changing down the line, but as of right now, I'm really leaning towards
Starting point is 00:24:13 no. Is this the end for us? I'm 27 and he's 28, and we both agree marriage and anything kid related will be saved for our 30s. Thanks, ladies. To me, this is, it's an easy answer. Yeah, but wait a minute, did you see her at the beginning? She was so shocked. Like, isn't that what couples talk? about that's a good thing they're communicating well it is a good thing I think she just maybe two years in everyone's got a different timeline maybe she just felt like we're still having fun she's 27 maybe she's in her mind thinking mid 30s is when she's going to move in who knows who cares really the fact is neither one of them is dead set on having kids this happens can I tell you how many not how many but I
Starting point is 00:25:06 know at least three friends, children's friends who ended up divorced because it read just like this letter. I'm not sure. He's not sure. But we love each other. We have the same goals. We want to travel. We want to do this.
Starting point is 00:25:22 But we're not sure about kids. And inevitably, one or the other came out. They wanted kids and the other one came out definitely not wanting kids. And it was a deal breaker in their marriage. So anonymous. It's sad. But she saying he's a risk he's flexible yeah right now he is but he's leaning towards them she's leaning
Starting point is 00:25:42 and she's not sure either but she sounds like maybe down the line but right now she's not ready so my answer my advice is you if you love the guy and you agree on everything else or or many other things then take the risk you know move in have the conversation about finances do all those things and then when the shoe drops and that is you come to him and say honey i've decided i never want children and he says that's a problem because i've decided i really do that's probably going to be the end of your marriage in my opinion because resentment will grow on both sides of the table but i don't think that conversation is the end for you that's what she's asking no it's not the end but it's what it is is you need a bigger conversation yeah the bigger conversation is
Starting point is 00:26:36 are you willing to take the risk because we may end up on opposite sides of the table and it excuse me but then kethy don't you feel a little pressured if we're saying this she might feel pressured like okay what day am i going to feel like i know the answer to that you don't know well but the friends that i have their kids the ones i only know of one i only know of one of my friend's kids who was on the fence and decided they wanted kids if they were leaning to not having them. The ones that were leaning towards not having them, once they were married, they definitely decided they didn't want them. Yeah. I have friends with no kids. I mean, it's, I know a lot of people with no kids, but when one wants and the other doesn't, that is a problem.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It's, it's, you know what, I hate to say it, but it's like, can you get over that? It's like if a, if a spouse cheats on another spouse or partner cheats. You know, you have to decide either it's going to be a deal breaker or it isn't because it could go either way. Yeah, could. And you don't want to resent the person that doesn't want to have the children when you did, you know. Well, you will.
Starting point is 00:27:45 If you want children and your partner says no. And here's the thing, Anonymous, you might get together, year 27, you might be 34, 35, and really decide you don't want children. that's okay. But then he might think it's too late for him or something. Or he might decide he really wants kids. So now you know, you end up splitting ways.
Starting point is 00:28:10 You've got to start over. It's a possibility. It's, yeah, it's a possibility. I guess what I would say to you is accept the risk. If you love the guy, if you love it, yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:20 exactly. We wish you luck, let us know if you get pregnant, if you get married, if you move in. And by the way, when you're doing up the chore list, make sure he is doing the laundry and the vacuuming.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And if you need a good idea for a Christmas gift, I'm a vacuum. All right. Question number two, Marina writes. Hi, ladies. Hi, Marina. Hi, ladies. I'm really frustrated and I feel like you guys could be a big help right now. I'm 32 and I've been married to my husband for three years.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Ever since we got engaged, my parents have been hounding me on when I'm having children. my husband and I have always wanted to be child free and that hasn't changed for either of us well they need to reach out and talk to anonymous okay i've tried telling them so many times i've tried the sit down sensitive conversation i've snapped a few times you name it i've tried it but i'm at a loss they still are confident i'm going to change my mind what do i do to get through to them that i'm not having kids it's making me crazy and I need them to can it. In other words, you know what? They need to zip it, Susan. Thank you. I love you too so much. Here's what you do, Marina.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Put a note in. Write them a note because they clearly aren't listening to you in person. Write them a note and say it is affecting your relationship. If they want to continue seeing you and your spouse, partner, whatever, then they're going to accept that you're never going to have children. you're not adopting you're not getting a cat you're not getting a dog you're not getting a pet hamster and you're not having a baby and if you don't want to accept that you're not going to see very much of us i think it's time to lay down the the bar here she said she's trying everything what what do you
Starting point is 00:30:15 think i agree with the fact that you have to sit your parents down and i she did she has sat him down i know i'd sugarcoded a little more and say mom like you said it will affect you're affect a relationship because I feel guilty every time you say that to me. Why don't you understand we don't want children? We, my husband, and I, it's our choice. You know what, Susan, it is not their choice. You just hit on something really important. I don't think the other thing that could be is that the mother feels like in some way she's failed because why, you know, why wouldn't my child I birthed I had my child why because she had children that's what I'm saying so she might feel like a failure the mom you know why would she feel like a failure her daughter didn't
Starting point is 00:31:06 she wants grandchildren I get that's what I'm saying like I failed some way that my daughter but you know what I would say she said she's tried everything I know so write her a note and tell her she's telling them yep write her note marina right this time just say it's going to come between us you're you're making it hard. You're making it to the point where we don't want to spend time with you because that's all you talk about. That's what I said. My husband and I are making this choice. Mom, I'm sorry to disappoint you. And God, I hope she has other children that maybe they'll give her grandchildren. But yeah, you got to just keep trying or on another note, I dare say this God. Yeah, mom, we're trying. Just not happening. Oh, no. Susan, that's a lie.
Starting point is 00:31:53 No, I know. Then it's going to be, why don't you do IBM, why don't you do this? No, she can't do that. She's got to be honest with them. We're not adopting. We're not getting a hamster. We're not. Or if you want to be really cruel, Marina, buy your mother a puppy.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Say, here's something to keep you a busy, mom. But really, let us know. You just have to share with them that it's your husband and your life. You're not bringing children into it. I'm sorry, mom. Move on. I'll tell you, my daughter, they talk. talk about whether they're going to have a second child or not.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I don't weigh in. I say whatever you want to do. Yeah. Yeah. It's their life. It's their life. But good luck, sweetie. That's a tough one. It is. Because it is your mom. I know you love her. But yeah. Susan, are you at all? Wait, are you at all? No, do not try, Marina. Do not try. No, keep on trying to tell your mother. I know. I was making a joke. Okay. Do you love it? Wait, do you love it that we agree on so many things?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yes. Sometimes I do. I'm shocked sometimes, but yes, yes, I love it when you see it my way. I love it when you show good thinking skills and reasoning skills, which means you agree with me. Carry on. Okay, Lily, hi, Susan and Kathy. I'm such a huge fan of the pod. And I was hoping you could help me out with something. I graduated from college about seven months ago and got a remote job right out of school.
Starting point is 00:33:24 right around the time I started my job my older sister gave birth to her first kid I love my niece so much but I literally cannot babysit anymore my sister asks me all the time I've been watching my niece three times a week for the past five months I need her phone number wait thick of it I need her phone number my daughter needs a babysitter I'm missing out on time with my friends time with my boyfriend and I'm honestly exhausted after working all day. My mom snapped at me when I tried to open up to her about it and told me I was being lazy, unreasonable. My sister can afford a nanny, but she doesn't want one because she doesn't want to spend
Starting point is 00:34:11 the money. If she has a free sitter, me, LOL, am I being unreasonable? How do I talk to her about this? Love you guys. Oh, my God. can I say something? You are absolutely right. You are living.
Starting point is 00:34:27 That's her baby. And you know what? I'd say, if it's an emergency or once in a while you want to go out with your husband, I'll do it. But I cannot do it three times a week. Can I tell you? I agree with you. But, you know, it's a bigger issue here.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And I think families sometimes struggle with this. It's called boundaries. And how about the mother getting on her? You watch her then. But that's what's telling me there's a boundary. issue in this family because Lily is not able to set boundaries with her older sister for her mother and nor her mother and the mother is not setting appropriate boundaries with what she says to Lily so the issue here is Lily we know we all want a lot of our questions are
Starting point is 00:35:14 have the similar theme in that they're looking for a magic pill you know a magic thing Susan and Kathy, what could you tell us that would magically, Lily, this is not going to be an easy conversation, but it's a conversation that needs to be had. You need to gently and quietly and calmly tell your sister exactly what Susan said. It's unreasonable for you to ask me, I have a life. This is your child. You need to raise your child in an emergency, yada, yada, yada. Everything. Or give her one specific day a week that you're willing to come babysit. Other than that, I can't because I'm falling behind on my life. But my point is, you, Lily, have to set the boundary. You have to set the parameter because your sister has already shown you that she will take whatever you're willing to give and then some.
Starting point is 00:36:11 But how about the mother, Kathy? I mean, look at what the mother said, you're lazy, unreasonable. How come the mother, the grandmother's not babysitting? to me that's a red herring it's it's superfluous to the conversation i don't care they just need and it's a sin because they're going to get mad at her over this i feel your pain i really do lily but you have to set your foot down or charger okay then you're going to have to pay me if i have to do this three i don't think it's the money i don't think it's the money i don't she said she's missing out with time with her boyfriend and her friends she is so she works full time and has the babysit three times a week.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Susan, don't yell at me. I'm in agreement with you. I'm upset. Lily, give me her number. I'll handle this for you, darling. Lily, really, trust me. We haven't had this conversation a long time, but with Susan's upset, she has a cadre of baseball bets, and she will use them. Do not, I repeat,
Starting point is 00:37:08 do not give Susan her phone number. But seriously, sweetie, this is all about setting appropriate boundaries and communicating to your family. And you know what? Sometimes conversations aren't fun. Sometimes they're difficult, but that doesn't. It doesn't mean you don't have to have them. So good luck.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Let us know what happens. I'm sure you love being an auntie, but that doesn't mean. That's just going to say. It's not like you love her any less by doing this, but you need to sit your sister down. Yeah. And just say, I think you're taking advantage of me. What is your sister doing that she needs you to babysit three times a week? See, Susan, you are a very different person.
Starting point is 00:37:48 and I in that way. And then we're going to move on to my favorite game. It's not, she doesn't owe her sister an explanation. Sorry. All you have to do, Lily, is say, I can't do this next Friday's my last day. I love you and I love my niece or nephew, whatever, but I'm, I'm, I'm not going to be able to do it. Why not? Because I am not prepared to do it any longer. You don't owe anyone any more of an extra. So you don't have to say, you know, why don't you get a nanny and pay for it? You don't have to do that. Keep it simple. Keep it calm. Sometimes that's hard, though. I said at the beginning. It's hard to communicate these tough things. Set the boundaries slowly. And hopefully this will help you to set boundaries in other parts of your life. Let us know
Starting point is 00:38:40 what happens. We're rooting for you. I'm Jemail Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents and there's life after Congress and you should be willing to actually want to be able
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Starting point is 00:43:36 We're going to switch off, go. Reading things. that girls consider icks or we both say if we do think it's an ick or if they're being too picky and if it's it's not really a big deal so you and i can never be too picky just saying all right kathy got ready all right you know i know because i have kids that use this term all the time but for any of you listening who don't know and ick is something that makes you suddenly lose interest or attraction towards someone. Sometimes they're lighthearted in just a temporary ick moment,
Starting point is 00:44:14 but others can wind up totally killing the vibe. All right? Go, Susan. You start. Is it icky or picky if he runs with a backpack on? Could care less it's picky? It's picky, yeah. He's a picky eater.
Starting point is 00:44:34 That's a dicky. me yeah no that's icky for me oh is it yeah that he's picky that a guy that i dated for a short period of time he only ate certain foods and at certain times of the day that if that's what we mean by a picky eater oh that gives me the ick if by being a picky eater means he doesn't like artichokes then it's fine all right how about when you ask what he's what his favorite show is he replies with i don't really watch tv are we are we being honest yeah we're being honest that'd be icky for me i don't watch you think it's picky yeah i don't care if you don't watch tv really so the next time you have a guy over that you're
Starting point is 00:45:17 dating and you want to scroll up and watch a movie and he says sorry i don't really watch tv that's not going to give you the i asked what his favorite show it's not watching a movie i'm looking at what's your favorite show and he goes i don't really watch tv that doesn't necessarily mean he won't watch a movie. Okay. You're being picky on this icky, picky, picky, picky deal. No, I'm not. All right, he doesn't wear socks with his shoes.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Picky, definitely. I think that's cool. You know who doesn't wear socks with his shoes in his photo shoot? Guy. Guy, I don't either, a lot of times. I don't either. He only wears his hats backwards. That we have to be talking about young.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Ick is right. yeah he plays the air guitar when he dances listen if i can get a guy to dance with me i don't care of these dancing in sneakers he's getting into the sound baby i hope it's not every song he's grooving and moving yeah it's picky all right he uses a three-in-one soap oh he's such a man i'm just not sharing the soap that's picky and you know what i want to know what the three and one are but let's not go there All right. Let's see. Oh, he plays guitar and he's really bad at it. That's kind of icky. Can I just tell you, though, my son-in-law, and I can say this because I don't think he's going to listen to this podcast.
Starting point is 00:46:49 My son-in-law loves the Beatles. And I was babysitting this weekend, and they were getting ready to go out and he was making us all breakfast. He loves the Beatles. He was playing, he plays Beatles songs for my granddaughter. and he sings with them, oh, Susan, it is, when I tell you tone deaf, my daughter, let me just say, his wife has perfect pitch. She sang in her, in her college glee club, she was the pitch for it. They didn't need a, you know, do, sing, uh-uh, they would just say, Caitlin, give us a C, give us a D. She called, Mom, what my, oh, my God, I'm listening to this, my grandchildren are either going to, you know, have careers on stage or they are going to, people are going to be walking out. Okay, go ahead. He vapes a lot, and it's always flavors like watermelon ice.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Oh, I like watermelon ice. That's not that's a picky for me. To me, I won't date the guy who vape. Okay. That's icky for you, picky for me. No, it's not icky. It's lights out for me. That's not a choice.
Starting point is 00:47:51 It's icky or picky. Follow the rules of the game, Missy. Oh, look who's talking. She couldn't figure out moral quandary, so we had to come up with three new games. No, I quit moral quandary. Okay, whatever. right he uses Snapchat and asks you for yours i don't know any adult anymore he uses Snapchat oh my god that's all my kids use young kids not our my son is not well not our age but it's my son
Starting point is 00:48:16 i mean he was 36 that's all they use that's maybe picky that's a fellow oh who cares he calls women females that's just picky picky picky picky picky he's a bad tipper wait he uses a ton of emojis when he texts. Now, in the beginning, I would think, okay, it's picky, but it's not icky. It's just picky. He's a bad tipper. I'm breaking the rules again. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I'm out. You're out. It's a red flag and we just broke up. All right. His Instagram following list is 98% Instagram models. That's also we just broke up. That's way beyond ick. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:05 He has a ton of pictures with fish. I'm breaking up with guys fast and furious here. I'm out. Wait, are these questions that somebody that's a potential date or just somebody in general? Like he's a fisherman that he likes to fish. That's his blogger. I don't want to look at it. No.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Okay. He excessively identifies with his Harry Potter house. Hickey. I say no more. Okay, his mood is entirely dependent on how well his football team does, even if he doesn't have money on the game. I mean, it's likey. That's typical.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah, it's about icky for 10 seconds, then it's just picky. Yeah, it's picky, yeah. Who cares? He speaks to you in baby talk. Oh, Susan, I love you. You do it. Icky, Icky. That was Kathy talking to you in baby talk.
Starting point is 00:50:02 That was just maybe once to try to be funny, but... Yeah. No. Okay. He thinks reading fiction books is a waste of time. That to me... It's not a husband. Well, I read a ton of fiction.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah. My husband read mostly biography, so I think that's really picky. It is picky. As long as he reads, as long as he's reading and it's not staring at pictures of naked women, I'm good. Yeah. All right. listens to podcasts particularly golden hour on bachelor happy hour that gets them a red rose no listens to podcasts on how to be an alpha male oh see there's icky picky and then there's
Starting point is 00:50:50 and then there's you're out the door oh god he cries if you call him out when he's in the wrong. He cries. Well, men can cry. I like the man that cries. I like a man that can cry. I really do. But when you call him out and he's wrong, he cries. And you know why he's crying, Susan, when you call him out? How bad you slapped him. You slapped him so hard. No, I don't hit. No, no, no. Don't ever say that. I would never hit you, Kathy. Well, I'm never wrong. I'm never wrong. Yeah, well, this is true. Wow. I'm picky and picky and Ew. We have to add, ooh. I mean, Icky,
Starting point is 00:51:30 picky, ooh, and what was I thinking when I accepted a date with this guy? Or, I never want you to darken my door away again. I mean, there's all it's very fluid. You and I have a very fluid spectrum, but we can start with. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:51:45 You know what, Kathy, would I really wish? And people out there listening, I bet you wish it to, either for yourself or for us, that we had somebody to talk about. Whether he's Nikki or picky, we don't have No, here's the thing. Here's the thing for all you listeners.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Susan and I, we joke around. Oh, we haven't had a date. We both have had dates, but we're both, speaking of Hickey and Picky, we both are looking, we are both picky and we're looking for the guy that we want to spend this last great chapter with. And so, yeah, we'll have a date with a guy a couple of dates. Rumor has it that Susan has a date tonight. We'll be asking her how it goes. You know, it's a first date. Maybe it'll go well. Maybe it won't. It's not the first. It's a second.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Oh, you're right. It's a second day. Whoa. What happens on the second day? Nothing. Maybe kissing, but that's it. Susan loves to kiss. She's always telling me I want a man who knows how to make out. I mean. Yeah. And if you can't make out, just keep on going. Susan doesn't care if he lives in a tent under the bridge. No, I do. No, I do. No, yes, I do. I care if they live on a boat. I care if they live on a boat. I care if they live under the bridge. Wait,
Starting point is 00:52:59 what's wrong with living on a boat? What's wrong with living on a bone? No, I wasn't referring to a yacht, Cuffy, or a houseboat. Oh, because, you know what, I would kind of,
Starting point is 00:53:08 I got you. I would want to jump out of an airplane. That's one of my things. And I kind of like to live on a houseboat if I had a... Yeah, for a little bit. That might permit that address. Unless it was really,
Starting point is 00:53:21 how about a yacht in San Trope? Okay, then we talk. Yeah, never say, Susan. have you not learned yet to never say never that's the title of this podcast never this is going to wrap it up for this and we definitely want your opinion on icky picky and ew thanks so much for joining us for this episode of bachelor happy hours golden hour listen if you didn't have fun today you do not have a fun factor in you we really hope you enjoyed this uh please follow back or happy hour and we have new episodes coming out all the time sometimes we have guests sometimes
Starting point is 00:54:02 we're just dishing out advice sometimes we're just giving you some insight into what susan's and my life is really like yeah something we're going to really spill and we get a little bit each time that's right and you got you got to tune you next time because i promise you the first question i'm going to be asking susan is how was your day how was your day okay okay hey ladies and gentlemen and make sure you submit your questions to us. Because without them, we'd have nothing to talk about. No, I shouldn't say that because we have plenty to talk about. But we do like reading your questions.
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