Bachelor Happy Hour - Drawing the Line at Cheating | Golden Hour

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are back with more of your listener write-ins. We’re diving right into all the Golden advice, kicking off with drunk infidelity — is it possible to move forward? Then, we delve into more relationship woes. From navigating fantasies and political wars to parents vs. partners, we’re covering it all. Plus, Kathy and Susan answer their first audio question. You won’t want to miss it! Be sure to follow so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And if you haven't listened to our podcast from Wednesday, please check it out. Guess who we had our good friend and fellow Golden Bachelor at. I don't think she's a bachelor. Anyhow, it was Ellen on our podcast, and what fun we had talking to her. We had, we talked, I found Ellen to be as fun on the podcast as she was in the house. She was great in the house. How about her princess date? Okay, can we talk about that?

Well, can I just say nobody, anybody in that, anybody would have been excited, but she has never had such a, oh, I was so, so special that day. So for those, I can't imagine there's one of you out there, but for those of you who missed that episode, Ellen went on this fabulous date, got fabulous diamond earrings. Michael Costello clothes. And we didn't talk about this on the podcast, but here's a little dirt. So Ellen was handing out all the dresses that she didn't want. You remember Susan? Yes, yes, I do. They didn't fit her or were too big or whatever, too small.

You got one, did you? I got one. And the way I got it, nobody. wanted it because they said it was too big and I finally looked at it's this I wore it for the women's tell all this beautiful white jumpsuit and I looked at these people that go it's too big it's too big I said to them what's wrong with you people have you never heard of a tailor and I took it home and had about two feet taken in and it was fabulous so I know Ellen's going to hear all of our podcast and Ellen forgive me now but

this I have to I just have to share it I'll never forget first of all her face was Christless when Michael Costello walked in and called her. And she wanted to go buy new underwear. She said, I don't have pretty panties on. She was embarrassed. Wait, it's worse than that. We get to the wedding. Susan lectures her about her underwear.

And then we get to the wedding. And she says again. She goes, I have terrible underwear. We look at her and go, have you not learned your lesson? What's wrong with you? So I think for Christmas, we're going to send her Victoria's Secret underwear all the way. I mean, that, she's going to kill you, Susan. I know she is, but I do love you, Ellen.

Did you love her talking about her dating, the guy that, the guy that was selfish that she dumped? Right. And she, she saw right away that he was narcissistic, which is a definite, no, no for me. But she did share. She went to an opening of a restaurant, I believe, she said, and met somebody else. I mean, it's new. She couldn't really share with us yet, but that is the way. It is.

Getting yourself out there. Yep. And we talked about. So, again, for those of you who missed it, I don't know where you were, but we won, Ellen and I won the pickleball tournament on the Golden Bachelor. And she plays a ton of pickleball. And she's so active. And that's how, she was talking about that's how she meets people, meets people.

She gets out and does things. She's very active. She golfs. She plays pickleball. And that's how she meets guys. She's in a great little community in Florida. So maybe we should move to Florida. Is that the problem?

But we're moving to Florida in a community and we're taking up pickleball full time. That'll be it. All right. So today, we have got even more fan questions. I love it. I love the all. Are listening and writing in. Please keep it up. And like always, we have some really good ones today. All right. If you want to send a question, reach out. Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. And please do it. But first, let's get started with today's question of the day. This is always fun. Always. Okay, so you ready? Yep, go for it.

What's one lesson you wish you had learned earlier in your dating journey? Hmm. A lesson that we've learned early, so we first start dating, a lesson? I mean, I think, I think many of our guests have touched on it. For me, it's being comfortable with being myself and not trying to please. someone else being my authentic self which i usually am but i think when we're first dating when we were younger that's harder i've always been who i am which was maybe why i don't have a lot of dates but the lesson i still struggle with this that people tell me is don't trust everyone and i'm a very

trusting person you yourself told me don't think everybody's as good as you are don't you know you know you have to get to know them before you can trust them and that's that's a problem i have i guess that would be my lesson is not to trust everything that comes out of anybody's mail well i find that difficult though well i look at the good in people well everyone has good and everyone has some bad we're not perfect i mean you may be st susan i am st susan yeah but most of us are not perfect And I think that's just, it's, it's just be aware, right? So when I date now, I'm, I'm just aware of what they're saying. I don't, can I say something?

We are ready to date now and we'll practice all these things we learn, but we're not dating. Okay, so let's get this right. When you have a date, when, I'll call you as soon as I get a date, Kathy. You know what's going to happen? All these people that are listening to our podcast, they're going to send us guys. Call all at once. Can we do a group date? Group date.

group date. We're going to do paintballing. I know. That would hurt. I would not do that. All right. Well, that would be fun. We could get a group date together for both of us. Maybe we'll go play nine, you know. Susan, the only thing harder than having a date with one of us is having a date with both of us. If they can withstand that we're bound to pick somebody. All right, well, let's move on. Come on. Let's start our questions here. We've got some great ones. Okay. Question number one. Marissa from Phoenix sent us this.

Susan and Kathy, I did something that I'm not proud of. After a night out in a club with my best friends, I got a little too drunk and made out with a stranger on the dance floor. I cheated on my boyfriend of one year. The morning after this happened, I regretted it immediately and I felt like I had to come clean. After I told him, he was completely heartbroken and said he needed some space for me. Do you think there's any way that I could win his trust back? I don't want to end things like this. He really means a lot to me.

You know what? This happens more times. I mean, rule number one, why were you so drunk that you didn't know what you were doing? Less alcohol. People use alcohol as an excuse for a lot of bad behavior. I think that she's not in control of this. She's going to have to try to earn his trust back. It may or may not happen.

I admire the fact that you came clean immediately, but you've got to give him some time. And if he really loves you and realizes you did tell the truth, then that's all you did. The problem is he's going to feel like my friend saw you or who saw you that's going to come back and tell me. That's when it gets ugly. You know, it does. Here's a couple of questions I have, which, you know, Marissa can't answer for us. But she's been with a guy for a year, and she's actually. clubbing with their friends. No, no problem. No problem with that. Why are you kissing somebody else?

Well, people, you know, when they get drunk, they say, I wouldn't know, because I've never been drunk, but they say that you're real, you know, you drop your inhibitions. So maybe you're not as happy with your relationship as you think you. Why did you kiss him? Yeah. Maybe. That's true. That's it. Good luck with that one, babe. Yeah, good luck. And next time, stay sober. And things may go better for you. I hope it doesn't end for you. And I hope it respects the fact that you did come clean and the truth and you do regret it but i feel as if even if he forgives you it's always going to be there oh no i don't think that at all i do i think he'll never forget what she did oh i disagree i disagree if if anybody can make a mistake i mean she can go to bed with the guy she made out with him

she came clean i think if they have to forgive her yes and if you know what if you don't forget oh i do if you forgive someone oh yeah susan if you forgive you got to be able to move on and forget You can move on, and it's all good, but it's always there. It's always there. A second guess of trusting, that's the problem. So you're saying he'll never trust her again? Not 100%, but he would question things, yeah, whenever given... Okay, well, that's it, Susan.

An uncomfortable situation. He's going to remember what she did. Well, hopefully she's learned her lesson isn't going to pull that again. Absolutely. I wish you luck, baby. Yeah, we wish you all the luck in the world. And stay away from the alcohol. I'm Jemail Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics.

And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents and there's life after Congress and you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half

years but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psycho babble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercoms the podcast. for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search emergency intercom, and listen now. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian. with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, listener question number two, Jess from New York, says, I've been with my boyfriend for a couple of years now. He's always watched porn, but I think lately he's just been more open about it. It really bothers me.

It doesn't bother me that he masturbates, but the fact that he does it while watching videos of other women makes me feel really insecure. On top of that, I asked him what kind of porn stars he's into, and he described women that are the total opposite of my body type and race. Does this mean that he's not actually that attracted to me? Is it worth me putting my foot down over my own securities, or should I keep letting him do his own thing? Ouch.

Wait. The last line says it all. What? Should I keep letting him do his own? You don't have a choice. You're not in control of him. No. And you know what?

I've tried in a relationship. A man likes to watch. I don't get anything out of it. I'm sorry. But there's an issue here. Why? Because he does porn? No.

She doesn't like that he's choosing somebody that's not her. So that's making her feel like she's not. not as attractive to him as he should be. He likes other race, other, but men are different than women. Well, here's my question. I'm not going to excuse it. I don't dig it. Well, it's not the porn of the, you know what gets me?

She asks him what kind of porn stars he's into. Why would you ask him that? It's like asking you what color ice cream, you know, flavor ice cream. Who cares? And I wonder if it's all women. is it women and men like usually it's you know she's asking us here's what i would say jess you're asking us you're telling us you feel insecure you're asking if he's not that into you're asking is worth putting your foot down have you talked to him about any of this i would no i'm saying

has she jess if you haven't you need to talk to him about it because if he's into porn and that's what floats his boat guess what you can either get on board or get out and is he masturbating in front of you after watching this

are you there or is he telling you about this like how do you know this is what's happening is it a thing you do together I don't know the details

can I just be honest me this isn't I'm feeling really old right now I'm feeling really old like this stuff this wasn't in my marriage it was like he had a playboy

on the back of the toilet that was it things have come a long way I feel old I'm gonna end it on that I know a lot of people that they're into porn and that's their thing as long as he's not making you go without because he'd rather do that

I mean I don't know that's a tough one you know what I'm gonna do while he's masturbating to porn are you watching I'm taking the Neiman Marcus card and I'm going shopping I meant sister I wish you a lot of luck honey that's a tough one okay Amy from Texas says Hi, Susan and Kathy. I'm an only child, and I've always been very close to my parents my whole life.

I lived with them for a couple years after college, and I'm now finally on my own, in my own apartment and financially independent. Good for you. But we still see each other all the time since I only live about 20 minutes away. I've been with my current boyfriend now for about six months, and I just recently introduced him to my parents. My parents are very conservative, and I beg them not to bring up anything political with my boyfriend. Of course they did. Of course they did. My boyfriend is much more liberal, and he's also not afraid to speak his mind. They got into a rather heated discussion throughout dinner.

Now, every time I see my parents, they make random comments about my boyfriend, hinting that I should break up with him. I really like him, but I feel like on between. a rock and a hard place. How can I get them to all get along? Never talk about religion, politics. I'm going to say. It's like rule number one. Wow. Leave religion and politics at the door. But it was her parents that brought it up. Yeah. And he's... Can I first just, can we just go back a minute? Yeah. Yeah. She's in her own apartment and she's independent. What did we do wrong?

I did mine, no. But that's a taboo thing. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I don't think their parents, I mean, okay, they had something to say, but not every time you see her. If your daughter's happy, he's good to her, they're falling in love, shut up. Well, tell us what you really think, Susan. Just because their political issues are different. Listen, I live in Texas. Yeah.

And, you know, it is a pretty conservative state. And I think that parents there maybe are a little different than they are. in the Northeast and that they maybe feel like it's fair game to tell their daughter what they think and expect her to follow suit. But here's the thing. If she's independent, then it may mean she has to pull back from them a little bit and say, guys, I love you, but I love this guy too. And if you can't respect my right to date who I want, then... Or keep your opinions to yourself. I'm sorry, if they're how old, it's clearly, you know, they're baked.

They're not changing. Yeah, no, and he's not afraid to share his feelings. Amy, here's what I'm going to say to you, either get a Confederate flag and start waving or you've got to, you're going to have to stand up to your parents. Either you beg one or the other, babe, the boyfriend, please, if they start with this topic, just shut it down. Move on to something else. But he sounds like he's a little.

little cocky and he's going to go right back at him with his views. It's a no-win situation. But here's the thing. Do you think that it would be a problem going forward? Like with them, no, between them. Like, we don't know, is she liberal? She didn't say that.

She did not say that. I mean, every time she sees her parents, they make random comments. Well, she says, she also says she begged them not to bring up anything political. So this does, this is not a first time deal here. Yeah, well, be your own person, live your own life.

Love your parents to death. And if it gets really bad, you go see them by yourself, leave them home. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to do. Nothing's going to change. The parents are going to be the parents. The boyfriend's going to be the boyfriend. Susan.

Yeah. Are you saying not see your parents anymore? I'm saying play hardball. If you're in love with this guy, you want to be with this guy and they're not being nice about it, mom and dad, I love you, but I really love Joe, John, Sam, whatever his name is. Whatever his name is and be with your man. Yeah, be with your man. Stand by your man.

There's a song. Stand by your man. Now, if it were a different situation, like he did you wrong and you were hurt and your parents took up for you and they end up not liking him very much and you get back together, that's even tougher. But this is a political. Like, really? I mean, mind your own business. Amy, you're not between a rock and a hard place, sweetie. You're an adult and you're going to have to make a tough decision here.

Exactly. So if you do have a question for us, as you can see. We talk about it all. We want to hear it. Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. And you may be featured on our podcast. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest.

I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like it was never a princess. Like that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it.

And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.

He said, you are a number, a New York State number, own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aimed to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was overwhelming. And you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning.

Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kathy, how about that? We just got our first audio. And May Lynn gets to be live on our podcast. Do you just love getting these audio calls? I do. I absolutely do.

I am currently talking to this new guy, but, and it's going really well, and it's getting to the point now where we should probably start introducing each other to our families, but the thing is, is I have never introduced a guy to my family ever in my life. So just wondering your guys' advice on kind of advice or encouragement, and yeah, guess like what should we do for the first time that happens? what should I expect? What should he expect? Yeah, I love you guys. You guys are amazing. And, yeah, you guys are just so fun and funny to watch. And I love you guys. Thank you. I mean, her question, there's so many questions I have. Right. Like, I don't know how old you are. I don't know how long you've been seeing the guy. I want to know why you've never brought a guy home. What's the first thing that came to both of our minds when we heard her? Maria. She never brought anyone home before. and I remember Joey's reaction to that. I was like, what? Are you lying? Well, like I said, I don't know how old you are.

Should never have brought anybody, or maybe she thinks that nobody was worth bringing home and she hasn't felt a certain way about somebody before. Okay. Let's focus on she wants to bring him home. She wants her parents to meet them. Meet him. Wouldn't you tell your parents first?

Like, there is somebody in my life, Mom, that I'm interested in. But I'm going to keep a casual. I'm not going to say, you know, I've never bought anyone home before. I'm going to say, hey, you know, I might not even bring him to my house. I might say, hey, mom and dad. Meet us. Meet us for a cup of coffee or for a drink at a bar. This is a guy I've been seen.

Keep it casual for the first meeting so that you feel comfortable. You know what? You have a good point there because going to somebody's home is a whole another ballgame, if you will. Meet out in a restaurant, have some appetizers. Have a drink. Maybe not a bar. You don't know what her family. family's like a bar restaurant a cup of coffee go for a walk on the lake whatever do something

that's casual um don't be afraid maylin don't be nervous about doing this if you have found someone that you feel like you want to meet your family you clearly are invested it's in it you're invested and you're feeling something for this guy that you've never felt for anyone else celebrate that and how do you feel about meeting his family for the first time are you nervous everybody's a little nervous just be yourself do you remember meeting yes i do what was it like is she from new york she's fast i used to try to finish their sentences dicky my ex was from north carolina from charlotte north carolina and they talk slow and you know i'm quick and she's from new york that's really funny i remember i was so nervous when my husband uh we met in college and

He drove me to meet his parents for the weekend. Right. And we went to have to do a whole weekend? A whole weekend. And it was dark and we're driving off the New York State Thruway and he takes us exit. And I'm thinking, you don't live here. You're taking me parking. Nobody lives here.

Parking. Did you hear that guy? I told you I'm old. You're showing you right. I'm showing my age. You're going to make out the park. That's right. We did that too.

We drove down this. I'm telling you. It was scary. blinking stoplight town and he pulls in and I knew we're here it was like I'd landed on Mars it was but it is it's scary to meet people for the first time and this is a big moment in your life embrace it celebrate enjoy it yes absolutely and you know what we both wish you if this is the guy if this is the guy Susan wants to be your wedding officiant yes and call us and let us know how this works out because I want to hear how it went and we wish you we

hope for you the best, best outcome for this meeting. Absolutely. And I'm sure your parents are ready too. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Unless, of course, you're 14. I was saying they're probably thrilled.

Finally, somebody's going to take her off our hands. No, good luck with that, sweetheart. We love you. And thanks so much for calling in. And just know you were the first live one on our podcast. And we celebrate you. We want more. Absolutely.

Feel free to call in. Okay. So today. Susan, you know, it's always Game Day. Oh, yes. Game Face for Game Day. Already. All right.

We're going to play this game that we've called Moral quandary. We're going to read a quandary, if you will, and we each have to try. This time, let's try to guess what the other one would do, okay? All right. All right.

As soon as we start, you're going to get it. Okay. You're going to guess, then I'm going to guess. All right. All right. You're at the park with your grandkids. when one of them finds a $100 bill on the ground, you are the only people at the park,

and you don't see anyone else nearby. Do you keep the $100? I let my grandchild keep it. You're supposed to get us. Oh, fooey, sorry, I blew that one. I would let my grandchildren. What would you do, Kathy? There's nobody else there.

We're going to start this over again. We're going to start this over again. Kathy would let the children keep it. No, Kathy might pocket it herself. You think I would pocket it? No. You're wrong. You would?

If there's no, what am I going to do? You're not letting the kid have it? You know, oh, with my grandkids? Yes, the grand kid finds it. You let them keep it. Good for you. Oh, yeah, I would like, but here's what I probably. You look around, make sure nobody's there.

Here's what I thought you were going to say. What? Like, take a picture, put it up lost and found. No, I'm not doing that. It's 100 bucks. We're to bark. Wait, what if your grandchild is like six? And you go home and tell mommy and daddy, that's yours.

You could spend it on whatever you. You want, put it in the bank and save it. College account. I'm keeping it and I'm putting in their college account. I'll tell you what. You get 50 to buy something and the other 50 goes in the savings. Okay, my turn. Kathy, you're searching for a nanny for your three children.

I wish. You interview someone who seems perfect. You're ready to make her an offer. But first, search her online. You discover her Instagram, which features almost all provocative. Half-dressed photos, do you still hire her? I say, Kathy's going to say, hell no. Hell no.

Nobody would. Like, that's a crazy one. Wait a minute. What? Do you think I would have hired her? No, I don't think you would hire her, but I'm going to play devil's advocate in for a minute. Okay, fair enough. She was 16.

She was drunk. She didn't know what she was doing. She hasn't looked at those pictures in, you know, 10 years. Yeah, no. First of all, she's 16, and they've been there for 10 years. years, that's a big red flag. Okay, you know what I'm saying, though. She doesn't know.

And by the way, you're being judging again, Susan. I'm seeing a whole new side of you. Okay, why? I don't have half-dress, provocative people raising, my babysitting my kids. Excuse me. Would you let Katie Perry babysit your kids? Oh. She's too sexy for her.

Yeah, no. Okay. Try another one. All right. You meet someone at a Starbucks and start texting. He asks you out on a date but tells you via text that he feels he needs to let you know he's only ever dated men. You would be the first woman he's ever gone out with. Do you still go out with him?

Now guess what you think I would say? Okay. You thought too long. Are you sure? I don't know what you'd say on that one. Not only no Hell no Not even a chance

I'm just good What do you think I'd say Oh Of course I would I'd give anyone a chance You can be my new best friend Yeah my new best friend I'd just like to chat with him

And let him buy me dinner And oh he'd probably fall in love with me No the let him buy me dinner is so wrong Because you know I always pay my own way But yeah No would you go out with him I might talk to him yeah Am I speaking English here?

Would you go out with it? The first woman he's ever going at with, if I liked him, yeah. Okay, let me paint a clearer picture for you. You seem to be struggling. He's 69. He's what? No, I'm painting a picture. I'm saying.

Why your world? You're 67. Let's make him 65. You want a younger guy? Good, you got it. You're 67, he's 65. That's a whole different story. What do you hell?

I'm thinking of myself as being younger and this happened. Susan, it doesn't say you when you were 30. You meet somebody at Starbucks at this age of the game and he's only ever dated men. No. Okay. It took a long time to get there. I'm exhausted. I mean, I don't judge people.

Like, remember the question we had, I guess, either it hasn't come up out yet, but we did discuss one of the people's questions about the two women and she was about to propose. Remember that one? Yes. And you want to be with the... She wants to try a man. That's different. That's what came to mind.

That's different. And that's a much younger situation. There is no way because I can't. He's been with, yeah, man, for 60 years, if he's 60. But anyhow, I love this banter that we have. I love getting to know more about you, Kathy, and your opinions on things. Not that we always agree, but we agree to disagree. That's what friendships are about.

But don't you think we agree, Susan and I come from very different backgrounds. We're both northeasterners, even like, even like, I live in Texas. I grew up in Massachusetts outside of Boston, but we agree on a lot. A lot of things. And it's funny because our life has been so different. And that does it for this episode. Thank you so much for joining us today on Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks everyone for listening and tuning in. Please be sure to follow us as we have new episodes coming out every week. And don't forget to submit your questions. As you can see, We love it.

We absolutely love hearing from you. Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour to send them in. Plus, don't forget, if you know any friends that want to date Kathy. And Susan. Send them in and we'll check them out. We're really seriously considering a group date. I think I like that idea. We should talk more about that.

Okay, we will. First, we need the guy, Susan. Yeah, well. First thing's first. They're coming, baby. They're coming. All right. Well, in the meantime.

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