Bachelor Happy Hour - Eazy from ‘The Bachelorette’ Is Here

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

Fan favorite Eazy stops by “Bachelor Happy Hour” to talk about the season so far! Eazy reveals what it was like finally seeing Clare’s response to Dale when he stepped out of the limo. Then, Rachel and Becca talk about the second episode, and Becca reveals why she’d like to burn her dress from the first season she was on the show. “Bachelor Happy Hour” will have exclusive interviews each and every week. Watch “The Bachelorette” on ABC and listen to “Bachelor Happy Hour” the next morning! Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back, happy hour listeners and happy hump day. Now, Rachel, I have to say Wednesdays are just getting so much better now that we have the Bachelorette back on the air. And I feel like this is the perfect time. Everyone needs a little midweek pick me up. And so I'm glad that it actually changed to Wednesdays for a little bit. But speaking of pick me ups, you know who all? else has given me a little pick me up vibe easy easy everybody's favorite contestant this season he is he

just he's just like so full of life and it's just like this great character i mean i talked about him briefly last week um because he was one of the guys from the intro packages that really stuck out to me and of course we had to have him on this week because i feel like like i said he's so full of life every time i watch him i feel like i want to drink a red bowl or like chuck 14 cups of cough or just like have an IV of easy in me because he's just like that lovable and it just portrays through the screen so I can't wait to have him on and uh hopefully his energy rubs off on us today I don't know how it can't right he just seems like his energy just comes through the TV screen and this is this is important for all the bachelor happy hour listeners to pay attention

to we always talk about the one who gets like first impression rose or we think has a super big connection with the lead or the crier or the victim or the messy one the bully whatever it may be but you don't talk about the narrator you got to pay attention to who's narrating the season one that means they're a favorite of the franchise to tell you right now but two it means their voice is important and it's respected and if you've been watching these last two episodes you know that easy is the narrator so we're so excited to have our boy easy come on he's going to chat about everything that went down in last night's episode and hopefully give us some inside scoop because I have some questions. I feel like there's some there's some things that are missing and hopefully

easy can fill us in on that. We'll ask him to step into his narrator role. I'm so excited to have him on because you said it perfectly. He's so involved. I feel like we see so much of him, but in such a positive way. He's not really getting involved in the drama in a bad negative way. He just is easy going. I think Claire like spending time with him. And so yeah, I definitely want to pick his brain. He's been somebody that I've been wanting to talk to for a while, so I can't wait. But before we have him on, let's do a quick little recap because we saw a lot go down last night. I didn't think that anything could really top the premiere. Like, let's be honest, there's so much that happens night one. But this episode is up there and it's only week

two. So we just have to dive in. Let's start recapping from the top because we saw this teaser go down where no surprise here, Claire and Dale got hot and heavy. But then I feel like there's pandemonium breaking loose. Like all the guys are running around kind of like bashing Dale a little bit, not quite sure what's going on with their relationship. So I think we have to get into that because it's very still on theme with Claire being very, very into Dale. Yeah.

I mean, the thing what I do love about this season, and we kind of talked about this a little bit, is that they're giving us so much. But if they're giving us this much, that means there has to be something that we're not getting. And I also appreciate that they know as viewers were not dumb. There are so many rumors swirling around in regards to who's a bachelorette, who's not, who picked who, all these things. And they're playing into that, which I think makes this season even more fun to watch. So we get these crazy teasers. Every promo that has come out for Claire's season has been straight fire.

I'm loving every single minute of, I mean, here at work, we talk about it all the time. We're like, did you see the new promo? Even people who don't even watch the season are into this. You know, kudos to a Bachelor franchise. Y'all are killing it. But I do have to say that I believe that some of the drama we're saying is not quite what we think it is, right? Like, I feel like they're giving us all the high moments in the teaser, but it's not going to be quite what we think it is. Except for that Dell part, right, where the guys are questioning Dell.

Yeah. I need to understand what that's about. Well, and it's so interesting because last week we kind of, I mean, you definitely hit the high points on your favorite quote. I mean, when Chris Harrison says, congratulations, you've blown up the Bachelorette. But this week, there's a couple that stuck out to me. One being Riley, when he says, there is no we, there is no us, there is no me and you. And so, of course, when they're showing this, they make it seem like it's for Dale, but, you know, we'll get into that because it's... Really? That's interesting. That's what you thought it was. I thought he was, they made it seem like he was talking to Claire.

Oh, really? I don't know why. I was like, I thought he was talking to Claire. One other part that stuck out to me was Yosef when he says, you're crazy. And in my mind when I'm watching this back, I'm like, honey, you better not be saying this to The Bachelor and you hopefully are saying this to one of the dudes because that is not going to go over well with Claire. We know how Claire probably would react to that as any woman would. So that's something.

The teaser was crazy. It leaves a lot to the imagination. So I think we should just get past that and get into the dates because I think the first date that we saw the love language one was perfect for Claire especially coming out of quarantine where she has not seen or touched anyone in months. Whoever put this date together was so smart to do it as the very, very first date. Yeah, I thought also, you know, part of watching this season is how are they going to get creative with the dates? They can't travel. What are they going to do? And then once again, they knock it out of the park with this date, which was so relevant

but also so fun to watch if you're a viewer, not if you're the man that are in the room. So my question to you, as we first see them give words of affirmation and speak to her, who do you think had the best speech? Oh, I'm trying to think. Who went first?

Was it, why am I blanking on his name? Was it Ben? It was Ben. And that's who impressed me the most. Yeah, so Ben went first, and I thought he, I mean, like, he hit the nail on the head right away. So on that date, let's just go through it really quick.

So for anyone not watching, it was Ben, Bennett, Dale, Ivan, Jordan, C., Riley, Yosef, Zach C, and Zach Jay. So, yeah, Ben was the best. I felt like it was heartfelt. He really set the standards high, I think, to begin with. Everything there on after that kind of fell short. Obviously, we saw Claire really wanting to hear from Dale, and, you know, she's just enamored with him. She's so drawn to him, so she was excited. She mentioned in one of her interviews that she, that's who she most wanted to hear from.

But I think Ben, for words of affirmation, took the cake in that one. Did you like Del's speech? I was underwhelmed. Underwhelmed. Perfect word. He was rambling. I was like, okay, I can only imagine how hard it is to be in a room and you hear everyone go. And then you have to go.

It gets all in your mind. But I thought, okay, here comes Del. And there went Dell. I went right back to Ben. Yeah, underwhelmed. Perfect word. Yeah. And you know, like you said, I'm sure it's one thing to have to open up and express your feelings on a first date. Like that's not common. Most people don't really get that deep and heavy on a first date, let alone having to do it in front of multiple men that you're living with. I could see why it would be offered. I was like trying to put myself in their shoes. Like if I was on this date, what would I say? It's difficult because you don't really know this person yet. Like you've only had one night with them. And so it's, it would be tough. um so i just kept trying to remember like i kept i wanted them to give me more but then i'm like

give them some grace this is the very first date of the season um but i will say once we got past the words of affirmation into the uh what i thought it was cute what was it uh the uh the touch not the touch before that where they had to go back to the villa get a little gift was an acts of serve not acts of service yes it was gifts yeah i thought that was cute i thought it was thoughtful some of them brought out cute gifts like the guy with the chess piece and the first baseball when Riley gave her the or his last baseball game that he ever played that was sweet um but yeah I mean obviously it was it was planned right because why the hell would Riley have bring his baseball with him right why the hell would Zach Jay have boxes on boxes on boxes I was

Rachel if this if you were one of the contestants on the state what would you have brought the lead I well one we I would hope that we were prepped like these guys i'm assuming were to bring something and you know what i take this back i'm pretty sure that they did say to us bring something that means a lot to you that you want to carry with you i honestly don't know what i would have brought that's a that's a i was thinking that as i was watching i don't know be be minnow but i'm not ready to give her up right because i wouldn't want to go too deep because i don't know you like that yet well this is so embarrassing i've talked about this on my Instagram but I still sleep with my baby blanket and and that's like the most important thing

probably after minnow to me in my house but I would also not part with that I'd be like I don't know you well enough you are not kidding a piece of this baby blanket I would hope Claire gave those things back right like if you didn't pick one of these men that was on the date I really hope you gave them back surely surely and don't be ashamed I still sleep with a care bear named grumpy Adamson's birth Adamson's birth and we're going to part with it um but yeah I guess physical touch we have to get into that because that was that was the the moment of the state so did i miss that none of the guys kissed her during physical touch it didn't seem like it some of them i think kissed her cheek and her neck and got in there i don't like no one well that's what i was wondering i was waiting for somebody

to go in for the kiss because there's always that one person and no one did and i wonder if that was one of the rules that front where chris is like okay use other parts of your body like really show her but just don't, you know, go for the gold at this point. Yeah, because I probably just would have kissed. So this made it a little bit more sensual. Okay, I changed my mind. Becca changed my mind. I like that.

And I love that she has a strong sense of smell and she could smell them because I'm the same way when it comes to people. But I thought it was so funny to watch like Ivan, who was clearly uncomfortable with the entire. Honestly, I would have turned and put my head in a corner. You know, did anybody try to look away? did anybody try to cover their eyes or ears or whatever and then like such rule followers right like i would have turned around and faced the corner yeah yeah i i would have been hiding behind a tree

or something also i feel like if i was one of the contestants and had to blindfold and touch somebody i would like in a locker and i'd be like i would go from the butt grab or something yeah and and and you know what too we got to talk about another failure on dale's part i'm just looking at this let's go back to the gifts del gave her puppy perfume now i'm now i'm i'm i'm i'm analyzing i'm giving dell a harder time and i'm analyzing him with the keen i like with i'm really like giving like scrutinizing him because you know the rumors are out there swirling so i'm obviously anybody who's watching is like zeroed in on dell me for goodness sake she said i met my husband after and i was like puppy perfume i didn't think

that that was a thing. I mean, did he, did he just make that up? Puppy perfumes? I just, once again, in the words of Becca Kufrin, underwhelmed. I just, oh my gosh. Okay. So we go on to the group date that night. I think the guy that stood out most to me was Riley.

I mean, I really like Riley. I just, I like that he took. the moment to still have this physical touch like to still dance with her and just make her feel calm i mean obviously she was her thoughts were stirring in her head because she thought none of these dudes wanted to hang out with her and talk to her that night so i thought he did a great job of showing up i never had that experience did that happen to you no no but i always thought it would thankfully somebody always pulled me away right away i think they just realized the importance of time but yeah i found it very very strange that everyone just sat there for a little bit

Yeah, like, why didn't any of the guys step up? It just, I don't know, it obviously was real because it noted, it affected Claire. She couldn't even have a conversation with whoever it was she was talking to. I don't remember because of the way the guys were acting. And I like to think that, you know, like maybe Adele, you know, let me give some Dell some positive points here. You know, probably didn't want to step up because he had so much time with her and maybe was trying to give the other guys a chance. But still, like, it's so weird. And I also find that extremely unattractive.

that no one stepped up and grabbed her right now i know i know i will and it's like people by now kind of know the name of the game every night when you have a moment you go for it so i didn't understand why her own was just sitting back i felt so bad for her but um i think once she addressed it that's the thing claire is so great about addressing these men in any sort of given scenario and because i probably would not have reacted that way i would have said some like weird awkward joke throwing myself under the bus and so I really like how assertive she is and they listened

they took it to heart so well some of them listened not all of them yes then you had Joseph what do you think about him because like this is where we start to see his true colors I'm not a fan and I'm not gonna lie even night one

I wasn't a huge fan I mean we talked about him in the drama with who was it last week Tyler C I mean granted like that wasn't really drama Yeah, I just, I'm not a fan. And he's starting to obviously run me the wrong way. We see him slowly, slowly spiral downward real quick in this episode. So we saw Riley get the group date rose.

And then we go on to the one-on-one, the first one-on-one of the season with Jason. I'm really glad she picked Jason for this one. I really liked the date that they had planned. I love the date that Claire and Jason had because it might have been one of the deepest dates I've ever seen a contestant had, especially the first one. Yes. Yeah. And were you shocked? She picked Jason because we know he came out with the belly and he was the pregnant guy and like that could have gone horribly wrong.

But obviously it did something to Claire and it really, really impressed her. Yeah. Well, I think she picked him. I mean, I will say I was shocked because, yeah, night one, he just seemed to. so humorous and easy going, but she did say she saw herself in him. And they had a lot of similar tendencies of, you know, kind of resorting to humor when things aren't always going their way or as planned or if things get tough. So I think that's why she did choose him. And yes, it was definitely for the first week and the first one-on-one, it was heavy. I feel like,

the things that they talked about and admitted to each other and opened up about are things that we don't see until right like a second day maybe you know like even closer to hometowns i would say it was a lot and so but i really enjoyed jason i he pleasantly surprised me he was able to do what she was asking together without i think getting awkward or shutting it down um so i feel like they were a good team i loved the fact that they burned the dress. Yeah. I wanted to be there right there with them.

I still have my address from the Bachelor season when I got engaged to and it's just sitting there and I'm like, I should have been there. Can I just like have some extra timber? You have your dress that you got engaged to? Yeah. Listen. We got to have a birthday. Nothing but a word.

I'll come over tonight and we can burn that sucker. Well, yeah. No, we should. Somebody actually DM'd me like last year and she was getting married. for a second time and wanted a black dress for the wedding and she's like, can I have it? I'm like, I don't think you want that juju. Like, I don't think you won't walk down the aisle with this dress. And so, but I'm all, I'm all for, I've talked about this many times, like in the past with

my, with my girlfriends back to Minnesota, we've had burn parties when people break up with somebody. And so I'm like, this is my kind of date. Let's do it. Let's do it. I love it. We'll plant, uh, to be continued, you guys. We will document on the socials.

But back to Jason and Claire, what I just. like kind of like piggybacking on what you said what I loved is that Jason wasn't afraid to tell or maybe he was but he powered through that to tell Claire some of the things like using words like manipulative and selfish and unable to love how people have described him and he trusted her with that and then she didn't break that trust like he didn't scare her by telling her those things and I thought it was a really beautiful moment between the two and even if Claire doesn't pick Jason at the end of this I think that Jason can always look at that moment and say, you know what, I don't have to be afraid to tell women, you know, some of the scary things, because the right one won't run away from it. I just, I loved that, that whole moment. Once again, kudos on a great date. It was a great date. It was meaningful. And I feel like that's a lot of what we're seeing in these, these episodes. This episode, particularly, we saw deep, rich conversations. And Bachelor Nation is always saying we don't have anything to talk about. And that might be true over the these last couple of seasons. But you cannot say that about Claire's season. Right. And we'll get to that when we saw that happened in this episode.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And maybe chalk it up to, and I don't even want to say because Claire's older. I think she just is mature. She's lived life. She knows what she wants. And so are these guys.

They're a little bit older. And so I love the depth that we're seeing. I feel like it's something that we haven't really had much in the past couple seasons. And so it's so refreshing to see. It's so funny. We pivot from this very heavy, deep, you know, connective date to strip dodgeball.

It's called a balance, right? Like that was a little heavy for us. That was a lot. There was screaming. There was burning. There was, you know, like the breaking of the tablet. So we needed to lighten the mood. And for this, we thank you.

We thank you for the strip dodgeball. So we see the blue team just getting. demolished by the red team. And what I also loved about this is that Claire was like, nope, I'm setting the rules and this is what I want. Because this is what you see. And I know, I know people are going to have their opinions on the fact. We're going to have some Yosef's in the room. We'll just put it that way. You know, you're either a Claire or a Yosef in this situation. And I love what Claire did. I thought it was, it was her decision. It was empowering. She set her own rules. If you didn't want to play by them, you didn't have to. We all have a

choice here. And I love that the guys were just like having fun with it. It wasn't to me. And I really want to hit on this because I feel like it's going to be an issue. It was in jest and I didn't really see it sexualized in a way that I know like in the way that Yosef talked about it or being humiliating. It wasn't that way. And I'm curious as to your thought. Yeah. No, it was all in good fun. I never got like cringy. Like it never to me was borderline. Like, this isn't appropriate. I think the guys were laughing, having fun. Claire and Chris were laughing, having fun. I mean, like, they weren't fully naked. They had these little, what, like, jock straps? Yeah, they were strapped.

They were strapped in, you know? And there were black boxes for all the viewers at home. The kids may be watching. Maybe this one will be rated TV 14. Maybe an MA. I don't know. I do have one complaint. I did want to see more.

I did it like the black boxes. I wanted to see the box. I wanted to see what we were working with. friend you naughty girl I think it was who was she talked about Kenny when she's like just look at his butt and Chris

just looks and I'm like who'd you zoom in on this a little bit poor Chris he should have on sunglasses or something like talk about I know he hated this worst group date ever for Chris Harrison that one think of what he's been subjected to

he has to watch all of these men blindfold them and slowly sensually touch Claire and then on the flip side, half these men have to strip down to their little skivies. And hey, guarantee you. Chris, if you ever need somebody to host for the next season of the bachelor's for dates like this,

you know who to call this girl right here. Yeah, this is where you call in the sub. You tag team, you get out of there. Because I guarantee you he's in contract negotiations after this season. I guarantee it. Okay, so we all had,

we definitely all had a good time on that group date. But there were some people who didn't, you know, when the losers went home, which can I just say really quickly that I appreciated that finally the franchise acknowledges the winners of the group date and doesn't let everybody go on the group date? I felt victim of that. I understood Crystal when she was upset about that. It was nice to see the losers go home. So they go home and they call it a big stir. Not a big stir, a stir with one person. And that was Yosef.

It was clearly upset. Oh, no, two of them because Blake. Blake Blake is like a sad little puppy It's like but it's but I but no Like if here for the wrong reasons Was a person it would be Brandon and we'll get to that But if here for the right reasons was a person It would be Canadian Blake

And I appreciate about him So his feelings are clearly heard love that they made him do The interview naked Oh yes With the strap on I was like don't give him his pants back Right shout out to the producer behind the camera for that That was really funny

to see. So we get to the cocktail party and the men are very grateful because it's a limited number of men so they're happy about the time that they're going to get to spend with Claire uninterrupted by the other however many men went home on the date, six, seven men. All right. And then we see, we see Blake, Canadian Blake, crashed the date. I called it. I knew it was going to happen. When they were showing the guys meander home and they were walking naked, looking all bummed, I knew because from last week when Claire talked about him breaking the rolls. I had this fan. I was like, he's going to, he's going to crash the cocktail party tonight. I was completely lost. Good job, Becca. I didn't see it at all. But he crashes and it looks like

it really crashed on him, right? Claire didn't seem like she seemed caught off guard. She seemed uncomfortable. She really didn't seem like it was really cringe worthy, especially when he went in for the kiss. Like he really tried to go all in. And Claire stiff armed him. I mean, I was shocked. I thought, Mike, I'm honestly surprised he didn't just leave that date, hop in there. Cadillac and go home. Oh, he was shaking. He was so sure he was going home. What hope did he have after that?

All right, then we see Brandon, somebody I thought was a front runner in all of this and was so shocked. Then he started to look like Neve from catfish to me as the date continued to go on. It was weird. I never saw that before. Oh, it's all need. So we get to

Brandon. Be money. A. K.A. Here for the wrong reasons. Here for the wrong reasons. If it was a And yikes, uh, your take on Brandon. I just don't understand like, you know, regardless on how much you know about the lead. Like, you still can talk more about them than just their looks, regardless of who it is. And he fell so short. He was like already buried underneath the ground. Like, I just, I don't understand it like you are a man like you clearly made it this far like you went through casting

talking to people about being on the bachelor's so like why wouldn't you sat down with claire and she asks you why you're here and he just goes well you're a beautiful woman it's like i'm glad she sent him home i was sitting there thinking this is so crinchworthy and he could do so much better than this this is what happens when you're attractive and you don't have to put any effort in with women because they always come to you That was his. He just tells people what they want to hear, and they don't challenge him on that. That's what I love about Claire, and I feel like that's what we're going to continue to see. Claire is like, you know what? I know who I am, and I'm calling you on the BS.

Yeah. He deserved no chances. It was very matter of fact. Claire wasted no time. And I love, she didn't skip a beat. She sent him home after that. It was the worst, but also, like, for Claire, it was a power move. For him, it was like, bra, like, go home with your tail tucked in between your legs. And honestly, though, I don't think the guys. were shocked. And that's the thing. It's like maybe maybe that's just him. Like you said, he's just

used to kind of sitting back like good looking, not putting in much effort. And yeah, he's gotten good reins. He's the one, he's B-Money, right? We had so much hope for him when we were going through Bios. Was this the same guy? I think so and now B-Money sounds cringe. Yeah. Like he's a cringy dude. Now I know, I know exactly the type of man he is. The way that they're portraying Bennett, I believe, with the scarf and the Rolls-Royce.

And all of that, that's probably really Brandon. And Bennett's like just like a fun loving guy, which is why they can joke with him about that. I mean, talk about a wet towel personality, nothing to offer. And then to say to Claire, can we not talk about that? I know. Can we not talk about me? Like this, this guy is awful. I wanted to like knock on his face on my screen and be like, hello, Earth to Brandon.

Do you know where you are? Nope, there's nothing there. It's called The Bachelorette. Welcome. them. Nothing there. Nothing there. Yeah. So, rightfully so, he went home. Thank God, he didn't make it another second minute rose ceremony on this show. So the group date ends. We see her talk to the guys and she ends up giving the rose to chasten. And then basically it ends. We see them go away to the final cocktail party. We obviously do not have a rose ceremony. But she did give Blake the rose to keep him safe because like I said, he was shaking in his boots. He was convinced he. was going home. One thing that's stuck out to me in the conversation between Claire and Blake when she said, I appreciate you kind of breaking the rules. You know, you've reached out to me

before the season starts and I appreciated that. I appreciate you making the effort now to come see me. Just don't make it an every night thing, which I like. Like, she set the boundaries. That's all she had to say. She didn't have to go into it more. And so I think she's very good about setting boundaries with these men and being very articulate about what she likes and what she's looking for. but you know don't cross her i love it clara's a boss and that's how i feel after we finish every single episode like we already knew that but now the rest of y'all are figuring that out so i feel like um it's that time to we can only do so much when we're observing from a distance back i feel like it's that time to get that inside scoop that tea i'm telling you my pot has been stirring okay

you know i we've talked to claire i was able to interview her with extra and i I'm like trying to get all the tea that I can. So I'm happy that for the first time we're getting the opportunity to talk to somebody from the season who had a front row seat to all this drama to this season we've never seen before. We've already talked about him, none other than the narrator of Claire's season. Now he's going to come on and narrate this podcast. At this point, let's just turn this show over to Easy. Welcome. How are you?

I am good. I'm excited. I'm in a lovey-dovey mood. I will say that. I've been listening to some good love jams all day. Why do what? What's on your playlist? I'm in my mood.

So I've been listening to some Jodicy. Oh, you took it with 90s aren't big. So love you for life. Some, you know, Alicia Key. I've been listening to Music Soul Child. I'm in my feelings right now. Easy. Why do I get the feeling that you're always in this lovey-dovey mood?

Yeah. I am. I'm not going to buy. Let's keep it right. I have to start out. asking you, you are the first official guy from this season to be on our podcast. How does it feel? Oh, really? Yes. And this is the way we want it. I'm honored. Okay. All right. Yeah. No, this is the way we want it because we were talking about you before you got here because that's what we do on podcast, right?

We were talking about you. But in all positive ways, because you are the narrator of the season. But what we love is that you are narrating the show. And I feel like the narrating. And I feel like the narrator is an underrated role. I don't know if you realize that when you were going through it, but it's a role of someone who's respected on both sides, like in the house and by producers, and it means that you have a lot to say, like good things to say, good observations.

Did you feel that when you were going through the show? I appreciate that. Like, I felt that I was just kind of just being me. And like, the way I kind of live my life is just with no, no filters and no, like, if I feel something, I say it, and if I, like, I don't hold anything back. So, I think that kind of just was just genuine to, like, who I am. But no, I didn't feel that.

I didn't feel like I was like the narrative and anything like that. But, I mean, hopefully it's a good thing. It is a very good thing. I will say you have, and I was telling Rachel this, you have such a good mix of being present and the camera loves you. The audience loves you. I feel like your energy is magnetic through the. the screen but you like you're so involved with the guys but in such a good way like you aren't

dramatic in a negative way and so it's very refreshing to watch like you you don't seem like somebody who i want to say is like a camera whore and just like trying to fight and like camera time yeah um but how is it watching yourself now back on the big screen obviously you lived it but is it weird watching you yeah no it's it's weird because you you live through these moments and it's almost like every conversation and every day you remember in your mind how it went and then it's like you relive it and you pick up on the smallest things. I don't know if you guys have seen that too, but like it's just different. And I don't know, like even kind of just like the interviews and seeing people's feedback and being able to kind of like pick up on like,

all right, maybe that didn't go over too well, you know, maybe that could have been a little bit better. But no, it's good. what's better for you was it is it easier watching it or have having lived through it um having to watch it is tough i will say that like it's it's um i don't know like you'll see like on the like let's say like a group date you weren't on and you'll see like everything that they did and like all these like little interactions that they had it's almost like damn i ain't know what down like that like okay like so it's a different point of view um and then um obviously the good stuff you're you know you still get the butterflies and um all the stuff that you felt in the moment um but yeah watching back

like all the the different stuff we didn't get to see is is new so let's talk about that I wasn't even going to go there but but now you just you just open that open that limo door open that And the little door and gave me a segue, so I'm going to step into it. So you obviously don't get to see the limo entrances because, you know, you do yours and you bounce. Maybe y'all look through a window and see some things going on. But now you have seen them. What did you think about Claire's response when Del walked out the limo? Um, I will say this.

Like, it may, like, I felt like everything made sense. Like, and, um, I, um, I, I've always been one to say that, like, if you feel the way you feel and, you know, it's genuine and it's okay to see somebody and be like, I see a future with them. But, yeah, like, everything made sense. I didn't know it was that good. But, yeah, she was definitely in her feelings. And you can almost just tell by the way she hugged him. And just like the neck, like the neck hugs.

Like, you know, when you really wrap your hands around somebody's neck and like that that means something. Yeah, that's it. You know, like, back neck. The back neck. And like, funny because like I was watching. I was like, I didn't feel anything on my neck, man. I don't know if I've ever had like the neck hug. No, I do it to Brian all the time.

I do it to Brian all the time. I always grab his neck, the back of his neck. Yeah. No, it's a thing. And I didn't even realize I did that. Damn. Next time I go on a date, I'm going to have to see if I get the neck hug.

The neck is up. Yeah. Yeah. But you do it. It's not the one. You do it. I don't think men know to do that. You have to do it. Yeah. Like you're, like, that's how you know, like, oh, she was feeling. Or like, if you get like the friend hug with the pat on the bat. Oh, the pat. Yeah. But like the, like the buddy hug. Boom, boom. Yeah. You know that's nice. We are friends.

Yeah. Question. How did you get on the show? Like, what made you want to do the show? Were you a fan of the show before, we need the details. Yeah, so I actually watched the show before in college, just kind of like with my teammates back at A&M. Football players love it. Yeah. You went to A&N, wait, Texas A&M? Oh, Texas A&M, come on now. Oh, this interview is what? This interview is Texas fine. Do we have me? Saw barsity's horns off. What do you mean? Disrespect you on my podcast. Are you from Texas?

Yeah, I'm from Allen, Texas. You're from Allen, Dallas. Speaking of, yeah. Sorry, I did not even know this. So, Rachel, I want to say you know my receiver coach, D-Rob. I felt like I. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I call him twin. That's my twin. Oh, my gosh. D-Rod's my guy. We call it twin, ooch, yes. Texas is the biggest state, and I feel like in such a small, town everyone knows people it's weird yeah black people yeah it's a small it really is small like it really is a small even smaller for black people i feel like not like we're not there i just

feel like there there's your your two degrees separation from everyone it's weird yeah easy where are you now where are you based now so i'm in newport beach um so yeah i'm in i'm out and uh yeah i moved out to uh orange county um randomly so yeah i'm here By someone else. Okay, so before I rudely interrupted, no, you rudely interrupted me by talking about Texas A&M. Oh, wow. How did you get on the show, though? Yeah, somebody from their franchise reached out to me.

And at first, like, yeah, because I've watched the show before, and I've loved the show. And I'm like a crazy hopeless romantic. And I love love stories and all that type of mushy-gushy stuff. and so at first I thought somebody was like you know like kind of like testing me to see like where I was at and then like we started talking about you know what I you know what love is and like what I see in a wife and all that type of stuff and that's when I was like it's kind of real and just just kind of having those conversations about you know what I was looking for that kind of led into a lot of other stuff And it was just right.

It was perfect. Anybody that knows me knows that this is like the perfect, I guess, love story for me. I'm going to live in the moment type of person. And I go with adventures and doing all the type of stuff. So it's perfect. I want to go off of that because you seem, obviously, live in the moment, just such an, no pun intended, easygoing guy. Ah, pun intended. intended yes and you just like you know i've said it before but your energy is just contagious so

for you personally what was it like living first of all at this resort that's a thousand degrees with a bunch of other dudes essentially competing for just one woman's heart yeah how was that for you personally oh man it's it was so um like i i it's somewhat like football because it's like you have a bunch of like alpha males and a bunch of dudes that are in the same room living in the same house and you know have the same goals or whatever um but it was so different because there's so many different personalities um that's one thing i appreciated about the show is everybody had like a different viewpoint on like the same thing um and everybody had their way of doing something everybody had their way of talking to claire everybody had um different things

that were specific to them. And the competition aspect, at first, I will say it was very chill. And, like, nobody knew really how everything went. And then, like, it got real. Like, it amped up a little bit. And you had to, like, really figure out where you're at and really think about the time you're spending and everything that you were doing to make yourself stand out.

so you rubbed Claire's feet it stood out to me you said where you stand out and I'm thinking you rubbed Claire's feet is that your go-to move or was like you saw her maybe limping or complaining what happened? Yeah so you got to be attentive you know that's one thing I have learned

you have to pay attention and so Claire was like it was a long day like and you guys know how it goes it was just a long day of like a lot of stuff and um we were talking and she was just you know she was like oh yo like i've been standing all day you know my my feet are my feet are killing me and so you know i'm just a very

like i i want you to feel good regardless like whether however i do that is is is a different thing but i want to go above and beyond to like make you feel um you know the way that you deserve so um yeah that was that was a moment where I was just, I don't know, started to get a rubbing, a little rubbing. A little physical touch. You know that it's one of her love languages. Hey, it hurts nobody. Well, I thought it was great.

So this is a down on my notes. This is a perfect segue because you are one way. And then we saw a completely opposite side to another man, Brandon, who couldn't, who did not seem attentive whatsoever, couldn't really hold a conversation with Claire. When you watched his conversation with Claire go down, were you surprised and what was going through your mind when you watched it back. Oh, my God. You need to teach him some pointers.

I don't even know where to start. So Brandon, all day, he was talking about how he wanted to talk to Claire. And, like, he wanted the time. And he wanted to get in there and talk to her. And, like, even on the date, like, he tried to pull her a couple times. And so he was just very aggressive on that date. And I've always said, like, you have to be who you are first. Like, if you're not an aggressive person, don't be aggressive.

If you're not like a shy person, don't try to act shy because that's what you think that she likes. And so when, so I'm thinking, okay, well, he has something to say to her. Like, he really needs to get this off of his chest. He's going to go out there and do it. And then when he got his time, like watching his time was one thing. But he told us, he was like, yeah, I got messed up. Like, I, I'm not ready. Like, I, you know, I think I ruined that.

Like, not ready to be on the show and, like, date her not ready? No, like, not ready for the moment, not ready to, like, talk to her and, like, not ready to really go in and, I guess, say what he was going to say? Was this after he put both feet in his mouth? Or, like, what point was this? So, yeah, this was after. So this was after. Oh, wait. We saw him go home right away.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She came back and talk to you guys. Yeah. So he was like, I think, I think I just messed up. Really? We were like, yo, who? Like, messed up like what, dude? It's okay.

Like, you know, conversations, when you're in this environment, it's tough to, you know, in the limited amount of time that you have, it's tough to communicate everything you want to communicate. It is what it is And so, yeah, things might not go as smooth as you want them to But, I mean, it's going to be okay But watch like watching it Brother, can you can you say something?

Something. Anything. Like, like it was a train wreck. Like I don't know like where he went wrong But like I felt like watching I wanted to reach into the screen and like Shake him and be like you It's okay. use your words man well he did use them he basically said you're pretty and that's all i know about

you can we talk about something else quote from him actually this is why we need easy as a coach to train these men on what to do on being attentive i was like what like and and what okay and and so jumping on another thing what i thought was so cool about that too is like Claire gave him so many chances to correct his mistake. She was like, okay, maybe he messed up. Like, here is an opportunity for you. Okay, was there something that you saw about me? Like, maybe I, you know, have these great qualities. Maybe it's, you know, I'm ambitious. Maybe it's I, you know, love people. Like, what is it about me? And like the fact that he wasn't able to articulate anything. to still say anything, I thought was shocking.

So I, I mean, that was... I think he's used to talking about himself. Just an observation. And that's why he couldn't talk about her. Even picking apart his body language in that conversation, he sits down, he, like, kind of leans back. And she's just like, she's the one, like, pulling anything out of him. And he's just so shut down.

I want to ask you this easy from a male perspective, because you're the first guy that we've had on since he isn't starting. I'll try to represent. I'll try to represent. Well, I feel like you're a good one to ask this because for me, just as a female, watching Claire, she's such a powerhouse. She's so inspiring. I love how she, she says what she needs to say, but does it in a respectful way. Like, I just, I'm very inspired by her.

And now as a man who was able to witness that firsthand, you know, interactions with you and also these other men, what's your take on that? Do you have those same feelings when you watch her? and do you have just this utmost respect for her? Like, what's it like as a man watching her? Yeah, I thought it was refreshing. Like, and that's something that drew me closer to her because, like, when she says something, she's not, like, dancing around anything.

And especially, like, let's go back to that Brandon situation. Like, she clearly it wasn't what she wanted. And it wasn't the way that she wanted to go or whatever. And, like, she could have just kept him and been like, okay, that conversation sucked. But she was like, no, like, I know what I want. And I've been through this before. So I'm not going to waste your time. I'm just going to, you know, cut it and move on.

And so just seeing like that and other things that she's done in the house was kind of inspiring. Because, like I said, like anybody could just go along with anything and just go along with the script. and she was more of like, I'm going to, I'm going to make this journey my own, and I'm going to play with my roles. Yeah. Talking about things that sucked, let's talk about Yosef. Oh, my. There is so much that went down. We got time.

Oh, my God. We have time. So we only have seen, and that really I was going to ask you this question, we've seen a piece of it. and it's it's not looking good. We're not liking what we see from him. Anytime I see him on camera, it's not good. Yeah. So I can only imagine what it was like being right there.

Because you guys, and also, well, I guess this is a side question. You guys didn't all live in the same house. You had roommates. Yep. He wasn't your roommate, was he? No, shout out to Jason, my roommate. Oh, pregnant man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, Jason. We speak highly of him here on this podcast. Yeah, Jason's the man. okay but what was he like off camera was he just as bad worse better because you know he's going to come out and say he was edited so yeah the thing about yosef is there was there was definitely red flags with joseph and i'll say that like and everybody kind of picked up on it like just the way he talked to people um and just the way he kind of acted around the house um but i don't know if i was just naive or i just i believe in um

Um, you know, there's all, there's good in everybody. And it just, you know, some people are maybe not comfortable in, in an environment. Um, and maybe they just act different because, you know, he had a situation with his daughter where he was missing her. And so it's like, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. And like, I was like, okay, dude. Like, it's okay. But, um, yeah, like him talking for Riley, uh, don't ever do that. Like, don't talk for the group. Please. Like, we're grown men. and then just like him speaking up for the guys that were on the date like you weren't on the date bro that's why I was so hung up on his like how adamant he was against the state he wasn't even there he didn't even witness it so like did anyone say hey chill you weren't even there you didn't have to take your shirt and your shorts off you didn't have to wear this jockstrap and run around with your little buns out with your little buns out um um um um um um Um, yeah, it's like, I think it would have been different if you saw like Damar or, um, Blake, um, God damn it, Blake. Um, or, or anybody just like, you know, speak up and be like, no, that wasn't cool. But to have somebody that wasn't on the date that didn't see the context of anything and didn't even, like, you weren't on the date. So how can you, like, raise an issue something that you're, you're. not involved with it.

So I don't know, just little things like that, it's you pick up on and at some point somebody's true character is going to come out. And I think for him, you're kind of seeing that. How did you feel about the dodge ball date? Because people are split on it. And you were there. You played in the game. One, the games.

The other team sucks. He's like, oh, yeah. No big deal. I love dodgeball. Like, can I just say if I, there was no way if I wasn't clear that I would, I would have played in the game. Side note, and I'm taking a little detour here. I was a P.E. teacher for a year.

What? And, yes. Okay. So, dodge ball every day. Okay. Every day, no lie. We would roll this dice and if it landed on dodgeball, we play. If it didn't, we still played.

Every single day, I had those kids playing dodgeball. I was a substitute teacher for you again. I would have been terrified to have you as much. my teacher. Oh my God. Why? Well, I'm also terrified of dodgeball. Oh my gosh. No, the girls called me a sister. I don't know how I had them pass their physical fitness test. Like this is Duncanville. So you'll you'll understand what I'm talking about Dallas. This was in Duncanville. That was substitute teacher. Okay. Anyways, as I've people are people are split on how they feel about the dodge ball date. How did you feel being in it? Yeah. Um, like I'll say like being

a competitor and already like I'm in that mindset of like when we started playing at first like with Claire and everything it was it was fun and it was fun in games and everything like that but once Chris Harrison said like we're playing for extra time with Claire like you can see everybody's face like it's game faces like we're strategizing like Joe is like taking us through like line drills like outside like Garen is like practicing his run-up like we're practicing strategy and matchups we're analyzing every single person like Blake has a bum knee like Kenny's you know fast or whatever so we're it gets serious and and so something's on the line so like that's that kind of ups everything up easy I'm referring to the nakedness yeah I know I know simply simply the

nakedness we're talking about the balls we're talking about balls here okay and so when when when When Claire, when Claire says that it's stripped a whole other level. And so it's serious. Like everybody's like, okay, like we're playing for real. And so everybody knew what we were playing for. Like it was, it was okay to everybody. Like we all knew like, okay, like, I'm not going to lose because I don't, I don't want to let my balls hang right now. That's not what I want to do.

And so everybody knew what was going on. And so to everybody on that date, at least to me, everybody felt okay with what we were doing. Like, we know what we signed up for. And it was all in good fun. Like, it was fun on my part because I want. But everything was fine. And then I think it took a turn when the guys walked home and all that type of stuff.

But, yeah, like, I think everybody that was on that date kind of has the same feelings of like, man, that was funny. that was a crazy date like a lot was on the line and it didn't and i think too kind of what rich is talking about is like it didn't seem overly sexualized like it didn't the men were objects like it seems all in good fun and just in good jest and you know obviously you want to win yeah yeah I'm like now I mean listen uh I will say Kenny is a sex symbol like come on bro he's like a block of muscle Like, nothing even jiggles or shook on him. Was he on the losing team? Kenny was on the loose.

Like, it was like... That's bad as Kenny wanted to lose. Kenny wanted to take his shorts off. Yeah, was it really a loss? That's a great question. Can he want, can he beat the system? Like, he was like, okay, we're going to lose because, like, I'm going to show what I got. Like, goodness.

Yeah, who loved camera time on the show? Who wanted to, who was always like, I'll do a man chat. I'll do an interview. I don't know. if I can say. Easy, I do have to ask you this, though. Who had the best abs? Other than Kenny?

Doing this selfishly for herself. I'm doing this very selfishly, yes. I need to know. Other than Kenny, uh, who, that's a great question. I would say,

Brandon? Maybe. Brandon, Brandon, Brandon. Brandon left. Brandon. Brandon.

Yeah, I think so. Oh, he was on the date. Oh, well, no, just walking around that. But nobody, nobody's, I mean, it's Kenny. Come on, let's, let's be. Yeah, even clear point. Kenny is a Ken doll.

Seriously. Yeah, it's Kenny. Come on. What? You seem to be close to so many of the guys. Is the group chat popping? Um, yes. Like, it's, yeah, it's, it's interesting because it's, anytime anything anything

happens, um, like, or anytime anybody, like, remembers, like, one thing. the group chat, like, will go off. And I have to turn my phone on silent, but... Yeah, you know, y'all are chattier than women. Yeah, you know how it goes. That's a thousand percent real. Oh, to be a fly in the wall with all of you men. Easy, before we let you go, we have to ask...

No, usually we ask, like, the Rose and Thorn. So what is your best and worst moment from this episode for you? Um... Best and worst. I'd say best moment would be just that time that I had with Claire just because it was more like I felt that we let our guards down and like all our walls came down and we were just talking as humans our first conversation it was yeah it was loose and it was cool and everything like that

but obviously there's just so much tension and so much stuff going on that night that I thought that, I don't know, we just had, like, pretty good moments on the dodgeball day. Worst moment, I don't know, is just seeing Claire upset. And that's one thing that always hits home for me because it's, like, seeing somebody that upset and that hurt by something and not being able to do anything about it is just so, I don't know, like that kills me. so yeah you're really sweet that's really sweet but i really do i really do have one more one more question what was it like for you being a black man on clear season or and just a part of the franchise yeah so it like i'll say this this season um this season has just been very different and like i said like i've watched the show before and so it's been like eye opening um to

be able to be a part of it because I've watched it and I've always been like, okay, that's cool for them, but they don't look like me. So I'm like I'm never going to, that does like speak to me and like I'm never going to have that chance or I don't, you know, I'm not going to be in that world or be able to love like that or whatever that is. And so, Rachel, I commend you on this too. Like I've known you before from, you know, being the first to do it and like all the, all the stuff that you've accomplished and done and like that you're doing now, that's awesome to see people of color like doing great things and like it being highlighted, you know, and like seeing love highlighted in different colors, you know?

And so for me, I thought it was, it was just awesome just to be a part of it and to live it. And that may be like next year or years down the road, people are going to be like, okay, well, easy look like me and easy acts like whatever so i i feel like i can do this or do that so well said easy it's everything this interview was what we thought it would be and more you do not disappoint you have to come back we'll have to yeah we'll have to have to have you back please please and let's have drinks please oh yeah yeah you're in california dm us yeah i am down Yeah, seriously. Yeah, you're a neighbor.

Let's go. Oh, Becca, you know I like to keep my Bachelor Nation family small, but I'm so welcoming easy end. He was, he was fantastic. Yes, it was so good. He's won since, I mean, since night one, I feel like he was a fan favorite. He's so great to watch. And so I'm so happy we had him today.

We're definitely going to have to plan a time when we can get together with him. Oh, yeah. He's just down the road. Absolutely. We definitely will. And I feel like we'll have more great conversations or controversial. We'll get more tea. That's for sure. Things that we can't see get on the podcast that we'll get. But I do hope to have him on later on just because he's fun to talk to. Yeah, I hope we see more of him. But that is a wrap for us today. There's obviously more fun to be had. So make sure you guys keep following us each and every week. The show will be Tuesday nights at 8.7 Central on ABC. And next week, we'll pay.

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