Bachelor Happy Hour - Emily Maynard: Get the F OUT! | Happy Hour

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re joined by iconic former Bachelorette Emily Maynard! Emily is here to dish all about the “Bachelorette” reunion, a look back on her season, and more. We kick things off with some unorthodox advice she gave to Taylor when it comes to owning being a lead who is also a mom. Then, we take a trip down memory lane where Emily dishes on all the sentimental items she kept from her journey, including all of her journals! We also hear more about becoming a grandmother and how she met her current husband. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and filling in for charity today. We have the one and only golden bachelorette. Joan is here with us and today we have one of our most anticipated guests. We have Emily Maynard. We are so excited to have her here today. Batchel Nation loves her. We love her. We love her. And so before we get into all that, Joan, you are in Poochikana. Hello, thank you for having me. I'm dressed like not like I'm in a winter climate. Like I usually am, chalk is right out here on the balcony with me. We're having a couple of days' vacation.

So I'm happy to be here with you, but I'm also happy to be in some warmth. And you look, you look fantastic. I just saw you in some not so warm and fantastic weather. We got to catch up. I caught a cold. So if anyone hears my voice, I apologize. Thank God. Yeah, you sound terrible.

Yes. I didn't get it, but I think we were at all the same places together. I think the only thing you did different than me is you got that massage while I was doing, I do part two. So I think that's where you got it. Otherwise, we were together the whole time. But that was so fun. We got to be with like all the cool people from all reality TV, I feel like. I know.

Literally, we had so much fun. And any time I get to hang out with you. Joan and Trista. I feel so good. You guys are so much fun. I don't think people realize how much fun we have on these trips. We do. I mean, if they captured it all in film, people would be like knocking on the door trying to get these invites. So let's not like let anybody really know because we love doing this. And we're so lucky that we get to get invited to these things. And like to be in San Francisco during the Super Bowl is such a treat. There's so much energy and so much going on. I love being there. And that whole radio row, I've ever been to that. That's a

production. Oh my gosh. It was so overwhelming. It was crazy. Yeah. It was crazy. It was fun. Joan, what have you and Chalkman up to? Just laying in the sun? We are vacation right now. We were laying this and we had a couple nice dinners and we're only here for like a quick turnaround because we have to be in L.A. to do something else the end of this week. So we are just here like doing a couple days and it's beautiful and it's just like nice to be away from the freezing cold. And he and I haven't seen each other in like three weeks. So it's time we got back together. So we're still together. Even if you haven't seen pictures of us, I'm going to really try to hard to get a cute picture of us tonight. But like, you know, like I always say, we're living in the moment.

So we're really bad about social media and I'm going to do better. I know. No, Joan, you don't have to prove anything to anyone. You and Chalk are vacationing. You are having a great time. You're protecting your relationship. I'm so here for it. And I don't want to keep you long because I'm sure you want to get back to the sun. So let's get into some bachelor stuff. I would love that. And in fact, I would love to talk about Taylor Frankie Paul's new promo that just came out. And even the key art, it is so different than anything we've ever seen. What do you think about it? Well, I want you to go first because I think our opinions might be a little bit different.

I want to know what you liked, what you didn't like. So I love that we are not trying to make this something that's not. Like, we're not trying to pretend that Taylor is this typical bachelor that we've all been for so many years. kind of we're trying to be perfect. We're trying to be, you know, kind of wholesome and pure and have like perfect uneventful or un like there's no drama in our lives. And then we have Taylor and she is full of drama and they're not trying to hide it. They even like have the headlines out there and they have her talking about herself and how she doesn't think she's good enough. I mean, they are giving us so many glimpses of what we're going to see when she's actually on TV and

we're watching episodes. I, I kind of love it. I feel like we're, we're like embracing what we, what they cast and they had to do that. What did you think about the key art, like her poster? I thought it was really cute. I don't know what my poster looked like to tell you the truth. I know you remember yours. I couldn't even tell you the month. I don't think I've ever seen it, to be honest. I want a poster of you in my house. Oh, God, it's probably not going to be pretty. I don't think there is one. No, it would be gorgeous. I don't know about that. Yours is so good.

I hope you have a picture of yours. But hers is very telling. Like, how about the little square that said, instead of mom talk, it says, what is it? The book of more men? The book of more men. Okay. That was clever. I loved that.

I loved that. I think, though, okay, I think there's so much pressure for Taylor to, like, revive the franchise. just be different. But they gave her this key art, this promo cover, and it kind of looks like, do you remember that AI trend that was going around where it was like people and it was like they were Barbies and then it was like their accessories?

I'm like, why did we do it like AI looking key art for someone that like needs to turn this franchise around? Yeah, okay, I get that totally. I think they're just trying to give like all the pieces of her life. Like they did the mom and they did, like, you know, the more men and they like put her crocs there. Like I think that people don't know that she's like super casual, that she doesn't dress up in evening gowns. She, if you look at her secret life some Mormon wives, there are a lot of times in sweats and in like workout gear.

And I think that they are just nodding to all the things that are so different from Bachelor in the past. Like we're always in evening gowns, we're always dressed up. Like this is not the tailor. This is not the typical bachelor. And I think they're trying to lean into that and show that. I will say, and I'm not sure how Taylor feels. This is all just me speaking. And I know that this is pretty much out of Taylor's hands. Actually, I don't know. She might have had more say.

I had absolutely no say in my key art in my promo. But I think the one thing I wanted when I came in was I wanted to feel like the Bachelorette. And I wanted to have this fantasy. And I think she's like not able to escape the Mormon wives, like part of it. This is a totally different. franchise she agreed to be the bachelorette and it feels like this is kind of like following her and i'm just like watching all these clips of her on mormon wives like she i don't feel like she wants

that to be what her season's really about it's a part of her her kids or a part of her her faith is but do i want to see like clips of her crying over dakota in her promo i don't personally i want to see something fresh see yeah i do see your point of view there that we're like this almost like a spin-off of Mormon wives as opposed to a bachelor thing. Okay, I get it. I get it. Totally. Yeah, maybe we're just trying to get all that out of the way in the beginning. Like, we acknowledge it. Okay, and now let's go and see her fall in love. I get it. And like, I liked the, though, look what she made me do. I'm sure, I can't even imagine the amount of money they paid to get, like, all the money went to get that song. And I loved

like, there it is. The glass cracking. I think they could have done it. Like, my favorite promo of all time is Michelle Young's and how it went from like she was playing basketball and then she was a teacher and then she was in this beautiful ball gown and it was so well done and I wish Taylor would have gotten something similar to that where it was yeah maybe it's not Taylor maybe it's not and she was you know she was in her sweats which I'm sure she loved but I would like to know she also kind of wanted to be like all right I'm also the bachelorette and this is like my amazing promo yeah so maybe it is up to her I'm just kind of comparing it to The Bachelor's of the past, she is so different. And again, I don't know how much to say,

probably not any that she got, but I just want the best for her. And I wanted her promo to be like jaw-dropping iconic. Elegant, elegant and classy and not a nod to all this, like, crazy stuff that, like her past is all about. Like, that's all we know of it right now. You know, I see that. Maybe she could have gotten a clean start a little bit. I just don't think that Bachelor Nation would have bought it. I think they would be like, we know what the past is and you're trying to make her look like something she's not possibly. Well, Taylor, we're excited. We are excited no matter what. Yes, today we have one of our most anticipated guests.

We have someone that is so legendary. One of my favorite bacheloretts of all time we are about to bring on Emily Maynard. I'm so excited. Joanne, how are you feeling? I can't wait to talk to her. I got to know her a little bit when we did our little reunion of all the, you know, former bachelorette, but I am dying to like really dive into things and talk to her today. Yes. So let's welcome in Emily. Hi, Emily. Welcome to Happy Hour. We are so excited to have you. I think you are one of our most anticipated guests. I think I can speak for all of Bachelor Nation. You are one of the most iconic bacheloretts of all time. So we are so happy to have you here. Thank you. you again. Thank you so much. I feel like this has been such a long time coming, but like it's kind of a reunion for us because we just saw each other a few months ago at the Bachelorette reunion for

Taylor's season. I think we should really talk about that. Yeah, for sure. I think the last time you guys had a reunion was it seven years ago. Yeah, I want to say it was right before Hannah's season. So 2019, right? Yeah. You have, I mean, had so many exciting updates since then. And I can't wait to touch on all of them. But I guess coming back for the second time, how did it feel? Coming back for the second time was, it was so much fun. I got to see everybody and meet all of you, you know, younger girls, which was awesome.

Hunter. Oh, no, newer, I'd say. Newer. You look younger. So there's that. Oh, please. But it was funny because as we were all coming down to the lobby of the hotel, you know, I've kind of fallen off from watching the show for a while.

And so I'm sure the feeling was mutual from the newer people. But like the only reason I knew that a lot of them were bachelorets was because of the bright red jumpsuits we were wearing. I'm sure they were like, who was this lady? But I don't think anybody said that about you, to be honest. I think you have one of the iconic seasons. In fact, I went back when I got the Bachelorette gig, I went back and watched your season because you did it so well. And you're the only other person that had been on it as a mother. So I love that.

I mean, your story is very different than mine, but I did love that you came with like an extra element to your life. Like you had lived a little more than probably a lot of your contestant had. Well, thank you so much. Yeah, they, you know, ask you to. go back and remember some of the times from your Bachelorette season and honestly like I don't remember a ton. Is that right? Yeah, I, I, anytime like sometimes you'll be on TikTok or Instagram and they'll have like throwback whatever and it'll be you know a little

clip of me in a bunch of a lot of different clips and I just want to hide. It's oh no. Oh, I loved your season. I know it's hard to watch yourself. I'm sure, Rachel, you feel the same way, and I know you do now. Emily, that it's weird to watch yourself. And I kind of agree a little bit. I've forgotten a lot of things I did on my season, and mine wasn't that long ago. Yeah.

I didn't remember a lot of the dates. I think it's God's protection. Honestly. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah. I Heart Radio is throwing it back. 20s, the decade. To the days of huge hits and unforgettable.

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1,000%. So the least we could do is make strides to handle each other in a way that is a bit more mind. Yeah, with, that's with care and a bit more mindful. Listen to, tell me something messy on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. It was many and many a year ago.

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All true stories, all caused by marijuana impaired drivers. No matter what you tell yourself, if you feel different, you drive different. So if you're high, just don't drive. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. Well, of course I remembered you. Emily, I think you have just had so many iconic moments. the world fall in love with you and your story. Like Joan said, you are a mother and the new Bachelorette Taylor is a mother as well. So I was curious, each of us got to kind of go off and

have a conversation with her. What conversations were you involved with Taylor? We talked about her daughter or her kids being there and my daughter being with me during filming. I wasn't sure at that point in her season if they were like able to travel. with her or what, but Ricky was able to travel with me a lot, which was awesome. And I was really, really grateful that they let me do that. But honestly, do you all remember were any of y'all in my conversations? I was in the failure conversation, the doing things wrong. So you were obviously not in my conversation. But I feel like you had some iconic, like, lead takedown moments on your season.

Things that Taylor might face. Did you talk to her about any of that? Like the men possibly saying things about her children? Honestly, every, I mean, I hate to say this. Every conversation I was in, I am not like a, when I get in the room full of all of you ladies, I kind of go into my own little shell. I was the same. I kind of just sat back and listened a lot because a lot of the girls, they are not that way.

So I did not want to. I didn't really talk to Taylor a lot. I didn't talk to her at all one-on-one. And I figured if she had any questions about it, she could have asked me, but I didn't really talk to her much. Did you give her any advice that you could think of being in kind of the same situation as she was? Because you were one of the only people that could actually give her like a real, coming from experience kind of advice. Yeah, I mean, I think I told her just to kind of forget that you're a mom for a minute.

I know that that's probably the opposite advice that most people would give. But in my head a lot was, well, what are they going to say? I can't do this. I'm a mom. I can't do this. I'm a mom. But it's truly the only time in my life since I was like before I had Ricky. So since I was 18 that I didn't have somebody asking me to open up.

a fruit snack. I didn't have to worry about flushing anybody else's toilet. So I really took a advantage of that. I love that. Did you feel like Taylor was doing the same thing? I hope so. Yeah. I hope so. I mean, I watched her on Mormon wives. So I feel like she has a good balance. She has three kids. So I bet it was really kind of a vacation being away from her kids a little bit. I know that I have four, but mine are all grown, but I remember five minutes just in the bathroom without somebody bothering you was like a treat. So yes, I get, yeah, being away for that amount of time. I'm sure you miss them a lot, but it's also a little like you get a chance to breathe and maybe like get back in touch with yourself, which is what you really mean when you're on a show like this.

Yeah, like really figure out what is important to you and who you are. I learned a lot about myself during that whole process, just things that I like about myself, things I don't like about myself. And I always, even whenever I was on the bachelor, um, and going into the bachelor, I told everybody to journal because I, it was like the only way I could get my feelings out. Um, because there might there was so much going on in my brain that I just had to write a lot. And that would, that would be my advice for like a lot of the other bacheloretts going forward is to journal. Like on those long flights, just journal. And what a gift it is for me, a hundred years later to be able to go back and reread like all this nonsense and funny stuff that I forgot.

Yeah. I was going to ask if you still had any of your journals. Oh, I saved literally. I am, I throw everything away, but I save like sentimental things. So I still have like one of the guys gave me bobbleheads the first night. I still have those. I mean, I saved like my room keys. I saved, I stole a robe from the greenbriar.

still use that regularly. I still have so much stuff. I didn't know I could steal stuff. I still have so much stuff from my season. I saw all my journals. Any letter, anybody wrote me. I saved it. Yeah. I have all that stuff too. Did you get to keep any of your clothes? I know back in the day Carrie said the bachelor's got to keep like shoes and clothes. So once filming was over, I got a shipment. You know those like giant suitcase. that you travel with. Yeah. They just shipped those to me.

I had like eight suitcases. And, um, yeah, everything. Oh my gosh. I got some of mine. I got a good chunk of mine. None of the evening gowns, but I got a lot of other stuff. Rachel, did you get it? I'm sure you got some of your stuff.

I think I have a couple pairs of shoes. And that's it. Really? No. I know. I know. I need to go back and ask for some more. But Emily, I do have one more question.

Just going back a little bit. Uh, I feel like I was kind of similar at the reunion. There were so many big personalities in the room. It was kind of like hard to get a word in. Is there anyone out of The Bachelorette that you're still close with that you were like excited to see again? I love Andy. She's the best. Yeah, I love Andy.

I got to meet Tasia and I really liked her. I got to meet Hannah. And then all these girls, you feel like you know each other just from social media and all of that. So I felt like I knew Hannah. I really love Rachel Lindsay. She always makes me laugh. And I mean, I really love all of the girls. They are like such a good group.

We are, I think, so lucky to have our little bachelor family. Do you think Hannah's season was about when you stopped watching? I feel like that's the normal, like cut off we normally hear. I stopped watching after my season. Oh my gosh. Wait, I kind of love that. It's hard to watch back. Yeah.

So you didn't watch any guys? coming off of your show? No, no. Oh, wow. No. Interesting. And two of my guys have been The Bachelor since then. I know.

And I didn't watch either. My husband's going to watch it. So, yeah, I just... And two hours. It was just a thing you did. I had babies pretty soon after my season was over. So that was just too late for me to be up. I don't have two hours at night.

I feel it. We lived it. We don't need to re-watch it. Yeah. I haven't watched mine either. Yeah. I don't even want Ricky to watch it. I'm sure she's seen like clips here and there, but we don't talk about it.

That's so funny. I feel like you did such a good job. You should be proud about how you did it. You were so elegant and mature at such a really young age and you had a lot of responsibility in your life. and you just like juggled everything so well. And I feel like you should be really proud of it. I know you don't want to watch it. I know it's hard for me to watch mine back. But I just feel like if I were you, I would have been really proud of what I did. Thank you so much for saying that.

And talking about kids. I mean, so you are a mom. Obviously, you have a huge family. I only have four. And I always think I'm like an abatrosh. You have six kids. And now you're a grandma. And I feel like you and I are the only grand grandmothers in back to their world. How do you juggle that? How do you juggle having your own babies and then also being a grandma? Well, she's not even three weeks old yet, so I'm still trying to figure it out. I will say, like, I've never been the mom that, like, just sits and rocks her babies all day long. Like, that's just not my personality. And so, Romi's dad, his parents will come over.

That's her name Romi, which is funny because it's just, Jojo's baby's name too. I love it. So, beautiful. So whenever when he was growing up, I was always like, Emily and Ricky, so she wanted Ricky and Romy. Oh. But anyway. I love it. I think it's perfect. It's a really, which.

Come over and just hold her all day. Just hold the baby. And I'm like, you're going to be such a better grandma than me. Oh, my gosh. Oh, no, no. Baby, they need all of the grandma stuff. So if you're like the action grandma, that's good. I'm the holding grandma.

I'm a little bit of both, but I love holding a baby. it's probably my favorite thing to do in the entire world. I like getting up with her at night and I love all of that, but I just have too much stuff going on and like too much things, too many things in my brain and my kids are always yelling at me. Yeah. But if I had the opportunity to sit all day and just like maybe I would, but it's just not stage of life.

But you don't have time for that. And I'm not too far removed from the baby stage that I miss it yet. Yeah. I was about to say. Yeah. Yeah. He just turned three. Yeah.

He just turned three and he's a dream. and just so much fun. What's your grandma name? Are you like a, like, grandma, or do you have a funky name like the rest of us now? I'm lovey. Oh, my God, I love that. I love that. I love that.

I love that. She is? I think she's lovey. It's iconic. I absolutely love it. Yeah. Lovie is so cute. I'm Jojo because Joan, obviously.

Oh, that's cute. Yeah. But I felt like it would feel, I mean, you are so incredibly young. I felt like I was too young to be grandma, because my mom is grandma. She's 93. I was like, how could you be, how could somebody call me grandma? So I can't imagine, like, you will never be old enough to be grandma. Well, my kids called me Mom-Mal Maynard for a little bit.

So I was like, yeah, no, because I have a Mama. And I was like, no, no, no, that's not doing that guy. No, no. Oh my gosh, you mentioned Romney. She's only three weeks old. How is that getting the call that Ricky was going into labor? Were you so excited? Well, she had everything scheduled.

Oh, okay. So I was there at like five in the morning and it was really exciting. It was so fun. I've never been on like the other side of it. Like waiting in the waiting room and it was really fun. I was going to say, did you get to be in the room at all with her or were you in the waiting room? I was in the waiting room.

I was like outside of, she had a C-section. So I was like outside of the operating room. So I got to go in recovery with her and everything. So yeah, it was, and I could like hear her, whenever Romney was born, I could hear her, like, crying and it was really sweet. I love Ricky and Romy. That's like, it's so Gilmore girls. I know.

It's really sweet. Yeah, I love an alliteration too. Ricky and Romy is so cute. Yeah. Yeah. IHart Radio is throwing it back. 2010s, the decade. To the days of huge hits and unforgettable albums.

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Get a group that's mature enough not to be putting your hand in warm water and tickling you. You know what I'm saying? I mean, granted, I might be doing. But you know, like. And I think it's important for those examples of that, of us just being gentle with one another. because the world and the people in it already finding brand new ways to whip I ass everything. 1,000% of the day. 1,000%.

So the least we could do is make strides to handle each other in a way that is a bit more... Yeah, with care. That's with care and a bit more mindful. Listen to Tell Me Something Messy on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the... In 1995, my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around.

It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. And back then, I lied to my parents. I lied to police. I lied to everybody. There were years right where I could not say your name. I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened. Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend? They have had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you sons of a bitch to come around. You're in my wife. Boom, boom. This is The Red Weather. Listen to the Red Weather on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Use my coat. I'm just kidding. I don't have anything. I was going to say. When did you have time to do that? I'm just kidding. I don't have anything going on. Just, you know, just carpool and.

Carpool. I know. I have those days. I have a lot of those days. Emily, you told Chris Harrison, I think at the last reunion that you were ready to get a minivan. Have you bought one yet? Um, no. I know. I am at the point where I need one because my car is like a clown car. Every seat, like when we get out of places, they just keep coming. Kids just keep coming out of this car. And I'm sure

people think it's, you know, like wonder what's going on in there. But I have not gotten a minivan just yet. I just, my ego and my pride just won't let me do it. Oh my gosh. I had one. It's not pretty. It's not pretty. Functional. I have been for years. Yeah. But they are so convenient because you can climb into the back and put kids in seatbelts and car seats so much easier than you can do it in the SUV. I did. So like they have this Christmas light tour around Charlotte. And so I, my husband's in the car business. So I borrowed like a sprinter van from the dealership.

And I would drive one of those in a heartbeat because I was able to like go through the drive-thru at Chick-fil-A, hand everybody out, like walk through the little aisle. It was like a church fan. I cannot see you're driving a sprinter. Here's your Chick-fil-A. Here's like, like, nobody touch each other. Like, everybody stopped fighting. That's what I would drive. Yeah.

It's like basically a bus. Yeah, they're hard to park, I think. For sure. You can't go to the carpool line in that. No, no. And my kids wouldn't get in it. I would have to park way far away. Like, they wouldn't even get in that.

Yeah. I know, I know. They have opinions. Oh, my gosh. So this is so amazing. Emily, anything else? Like, any updates you have for us? Anything you want to share with the.

listeners. I'm sure they've missed getting all the updates from you. Um, no. I mean, I, I wish I was more exciting. No, you are. This is so exciting. You're like living the life that we all imagine. Like, we come on the show hoping for a normal life. Like, that's why we're there. We're trying to find our person and start, you know, start the next chapter of our life. And you did it. You did it perfectly. Thank you. I, um, yeah, I love my life. I'm so grateful for it. Like, I couldn't have. it better. My husband's amazing. Yeah. It's...

Beautiful family. Thank you. So much. I think everybody's New Year's resolution is like, oh, I'm going to like get off of Instagram. Mine's always like, I need to post more on Instagram. Yes. We wish you would. Would you please do that?

I know it's like a lot. So. No. I know. Well, when you do, we all, we all pay attention. So we love seeing your updates. So if you feel like taking a picture every once in a while, we're looking for them.

Well, thank you. Before I was going to say, Emily, are you going to be watching Taylor's season, do you think? I mean, I hope so. If you get the chance. Yeah, like if I, yeah, yes, I want to. And because I feel like the season is so different. And it's, everything is so different. I mean, whenever I was the Bachelorette, it was like you have to be so wholesome.

They yeah. You would be so wholesome and yeah. Do you feel like she's the opposite a little bit? Well, I feel like she not, not that she's not wholesome, but that she just marches to her own drum and just kind of doesn't really care what people think. And as much as I said, oh, I don't care what people think I did care a lot. And so I think it holds all of us back a little bit just knowing that everybody's going to be watching this. but also because she has so much history with reality TV already that by the end of my season, if there was a camera in the room, it felt like a microwave in the room.

Like I really didn't notice it. So hopefully she's already there and doesn't really think about it as much. Yeah. I don't think she holds back. I don't think she did in her season when she was on Secret Lives. Yeah, for sure. I think she just was always like unapologetically herself, which I love that about her. Even if it made her look bad, she still was super.

or honest. And I feel like maybe that is a great intro for the guys that they don't feel like they have to be perfect and they can show their real selves. I'm so surprised how the Bachelor has taken such a different path on this one. What do you think about that? Do you think that we are evolving with the times like we need to or you're like, oh my gosh, what's happening to our Bachelor? I think it's great. I also like my daughter watches all the other ones. that are a little bit more risque or like edgier. And I don't, do you guys watch those? I was going to ask which, which one is, like Love Island.

Oh, yes. And there's one, is that Molly May? Molly May is on Love Island, yes. Yeah, Ricky loves Molly May. Like, great, yes. All of those shows that are a little bit, like I said, edgier. Maybe it's time for The Bachelor to kind of go in that direction. and it just I just think of this like iconic show that I know you know is it's just always been the same way yeah it's changing and it's exciting

but I know makes me a little sad but I think the fact that Taylor is a mom and I think it really makes sense that she's actually looking for somebody yeah totally did you see the promo or the poster that's come out I did see the poster. Yeah. What did you think? What do you think about that? I mean, I think it's so cool. Yeah.

I think it's so cool. I love it. On my season, because I was a mom, I complained a lot because I'm like, does my date really have to entail me cutting up oranges and taking them to soccer practice? Like, can I, like, can I do something else? Can I go to Paris and have wine? Like, yes. Yes. Yes.

We did a lot of kid-centered things. Like, we went to a park with a bunch of kids that weren't even mine. Oh, no. They love those kind of dates on the show. Yeah. I mean, they had this vision of who you were and they wanted to really play up on that. And I wonder if they're doing the same thing with Taylor. I mean, they have a vision of who she is.

I wonder if they're going to play up on her kind of, you know, a risk taker and having done so many things in her life already. Yeah. Yeah, I hope so. Help you at all with the guys when you went on those sort of dates, like see how they were with children or was it more on the one-on-one time? No, every guy when I date it, like, was like, I love my nieces and nephews. I'm the best uncle ever.

Oh, yeah. Like, I'm sure. They're all the best uncle ever. Yeah, of course, sure. It'll be interesting for sure. Is there anything, we talked about it changing so much that you would like to bring back that the bachelor used to do that maybe they've stopped? I really liked way back in the day when they would go, I don't know if I ever did it.

But like they would go in the room and look at everybody's pictures. That always made me laugh. Oh my gosh. I remember that. I think Ashley sees in the one before you still had the pictures. That always made me laugh. I wish they would bring back Bachelor Pad where they competed for money. Oh, yeah.

When did they stop doing that? Probably like, did they only do one season? I don't know. You don't know. Okay. Producer's going to jump in here because like justice for Bachelor Pad. It's the greatest show of all. time.

We've done three about it. I don't know much about it. Oh, you will be watching all of them as long as you are hosting this podcast. I need to go do my research. The last season, one season, I forget which one. Incredible. Yeah, one season. So like the end, the two, the couple, but they're not really a couple.

Like they just kind of partner up. So it's not like Bachelor in Paradise where you're like in love with these people, but you just partner up for all these games. And at the end, it's like you both have to write on a paper. like keep the money or split the money. And if you both say keep the money, you, whatever. I think that was the rule. But then at the end, this guy wrote, split the money.

So he got all of it and she got none. Oh, my gosh. And it was like the biggest deal ever. It was so exciting. Fun fact, I was actually sitting in the audience when that happened. Really? 12 hours during the filming. I will never forget when Nick Peterson stood up and held his big sign and said,

keep the money. Yeah, that's what it was. And Rachel Truhart goes chasing him, sobbing hysterically, being like, I can't believe you did this to me. You guys, that's the reason that made me want to work it on this franchise.

Do you think that, I mean, it didn't work out for you, but do you think this franchise still has the ability to work for some people? Yeah, I mean, it has. Who's the last bachelorette that has stayed together? Is it Charity or Joan?

who was well i like you can't hardly count me i'm old i mean the young crew yeah oh yeah he's right out there on the balcony right now i'm in pungicana right now with him oh my gosh you're living the dream that's awesome i am so lucky so so lucky but i think of like the young people probably charity i mean i mean jack and katy charity and dotting we've got some really good and joey and kelsey we've had like a really successful like run lately oh yeah yeah i mean there are some that weren't i mean jen didn't work out and yeah there were some that didn't work out but i mean we've had some really good ones lately that's life too emily yeah how did you meet tyler we met at church um that's amazing yeah it was after my season of the bachelor and i just kind of like went into a hole and so i

um started going to a new church and i started like doing this weekly um jewelry club through my church for this school. And he was one of the coordinators. So every Thursday, he'd help Ricky and I carry out our beads to my car. And he never asked me for my phone number, never, like, was not interested in me at all, which, of course, made me fall in love immediately. I was going to say, were you interested in him right away? Or was it slow burn?

I was, I, like, told my friends, I was like, I met my husband. And you were right. But he, like I said, like did not show any interest in me at all. So and actually whenever my season was on, his brother told him, you need to meet her. She lives in Charlotte. And like, I think you guys would be like she's your wife. Oh my gosh. How quickly after like you guys met to start dating. Yes. Well, we, after I got back from a bachelorette, that kind of blew up a little bit. And so that was like October, I want to say that that ended. So we had our first date in January. Oh my gosh. And it was like a done deal. And when did you guys get married? the following June. So you guys knew. Yeah. Sign sealed, done, ready for the minivan, and ready for the kids.

Yeah. Look at you now. Beautiful story. Everything works out. Everything works out of ex-fuss-chip. Yes. No. You are incredible.

You are so beloved in this franchise. Before we go, what is the last piece of advice that you would give to any of our future bacheloretts to Taylor, to anyone after her? Um, my advice would be to enjoy the time without your phone, journal, and just like enjoy somebody else being in charge for a little bit. And remember that it's such a short amount of time. Like I cried when my season was when we were done filming because it was just so much fun. I had so much fun. And just be so grateful for that opportunity because it, I mean, it's just such a small group and it's such an honor and I had the best time. Oh my gosh. And keep all the clothes. Yes.

So before we go, Emily, we need one quick throwback of one of your most iconic lines. When you were kicking someone out of the mansion, you said, get the fuck out. So are we able to hear it in the 2026 version? Yes. Get the fuck out. Still just as good as it was. So good. I think that's how we end today's episode.

Emily, thank you so much for joining us today. We had such a great time. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. This is so fun. Yes. Thank you, Emily. And thank you to all of our listeners.

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