Bachelor Happy Hour - EXCLUSIVE: Alli Jo & Sam M. Found Love! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” Alli Jo and Sam M. from this season of “Paradise” are doing their first-ever interview as a couple! We’re diving into everything we all wanna know: How did they start dating? What were their “Paradise” experiences like? How did they feel knowing they just missed each other? We’re asking and they’re telling! We get to know their favorite parts of dating so far and what the future may hold. Plus: Have they said the L word yet? Then, we finish off the episode by dishing out advice to our listeners. The lovebirds give us their take on a few sticky situations, so if you’re looking for some guidance, look no further! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

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I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Make sure you listen to this episode as Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back, everybody, to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks so much for coming back and joining us, and we are so excited about today's episode. Now, Kathy?

We certainly are. Just be sure to check out our latest episode. We have been having so much fun answering your questions, disagreeing with each other, chatting with all your Bachelor Nation phase. And today, I'm so excited. it. We have two very special guests. Please welcome from this season of Paradise, new lovebirds, Allie Joe and Sam M, if you will.

Hi, guys. Welcome to that golden hour. What's up? Thanks for having us. Hey, guys. How are you? Okay, so we have so much that we want to dive into today. So we're just going to get things started right away. But I have to say, you make the most fabulous-looking couple. I just have to say that right off the back. And that's something Kathy and I agree on.

Yes. She's a pretty one. She's a pretty one. Oh, you're pretty pretty yourself, Sam. We're going to give you some. Yeah, you're not too good. I need you got to get some credit. Hey, Sam, there's something I learned that Kathy and I both also did.

We all have our motorcycle license. What? No kidding. I just sold my bike like three years ago. Wow. All right, but before we talk about motorcycles because, you know, been there and done that we have the biggest question that everyone wants to know how did you two start dating you want to take it off you're okay i'll go first okay because i'm older older people

go first um ladies first so i reached out to him a couple of months ago during grant season like the show was just on um i was teaching a rumble class and one of my clients had said something to me in the lobby before class that her son knew his sister and it was like a mutual person. That person was also from Jersey. So a Jersey thing in common. And I had messaged him. And then I was like, I just actually got compared to you on the show. It was like right after the episode after the basketball date. So we started chatting a little bit. And then a couple of months later, I posted a photo. And he DMs me and we started talking about Paradise. And we both like didn't know if we were going or not. And then he answered me and I stopped answering his

messages. And you stopped. Wait a minute. I'm sorry. You stopped. stop answering his messages? Yes. Can I ask why? Because we were like talking about Paradise and we both didn't know if we were going but I think we were both like hopeful but he wasn't sure if he wanted to and I was like

if I'm still at the time I would want to go but I knew if I went and he went like he was somebody I wanted to meet so I didn't want to keep the conversation going and asking questions because if he was going to be on the beach I wanted it to like happen organically. I didn't want to like know all these things about him if he was going to go. Like we both really didn't know.

Ali Joe, when you did get to Paradise how did you feel knowing that Sam had just gone home. I was really, really disappointed. I bet so. I kept saying he was the only person I really wanted to meet and, like, waiting to go in. I knew I was coming in late with the date card. Like, I was so confident.

And I was like, this is my opportunity. Like, I've never had a date on grant season. People only saw, like, a side of me. And I really, really wanted to meet him. And so I thought it was going to be the perfect opportunity. So to find out he had just went home. And that was like, I was really shocked. I was surprised.

I was super disappointed. Yeah. So let me just say. When I rolled into paradise and found out that both of you had gone home, you know, truly, I was really disappointed because I wanted to meet all of you in person. But I want to know what were your experiences like, each of you? Yeah. I think they were kind of similar.

I think I was told that I was walking down with a date card. I was extremely excited to take her out. She was the only person that I had planned on taking. And even in my interviews leading up to it, it was the only, she was the only name that I dropped. I mean, come on, Sam, you could have said, or maybe Kathy a goal that I might kick her. Listen, listen, if you were there and she was,

I was taking you. That's just how I would have gone. Anything you want, Sam, you're my man. All right, keep points. Sorry. No, so it was kind of the same thing. They told me that I was going to go down late, go down with the date card.

I was really looking forward to meeting her, taking her. and then I got there, and I kind of looked around and saw that she wasn't there. And it was just really disheartening, I think, because then I'm asking myself, like, what the hell am I doing here right now? You know, and no offense to any of the girls there, I thought they were all sweet. But I kind of knew what I was looking for going in there, and it wasn't there whenever I got there. So now I'm like asking myself, you know, am I wasting time or I've come this far? Do we just try it out and see how it all goes, even though we probably know the way that it's going to happen?

So I think both of us kind of had the same story, you know, so it was a, I think, a little disheartening, maybe in the moment, not getting it or not, it not happening on TV, but, um, we knew we were going to make stuff happen. We didn't need TV. I didn't need TV to, you know, to book a plane ticket and go see. So basically, Costa Rica was in your rearview mirror. 100% once I found out she wasn't there and I was going home I'm like all right well we don't like to say that we met on TV because we didn't technically um who called who first after the show I did because he was already home he didn't know if I was there like he had no a clue so I had gotten back and I got in my phone and I messaged him and I said hey I heard you were here just a couple of hours ago and I was like really disappointed I'm really upset and he goes chin up here's my number give me a call and I called him before I got on the floor. And then ever since then, oh, Kathy, so wait a minute. I want to know, A, when was your first date and what, what's dating been like so far? Like some of your best moments you've had? We've had a lot.

Yeah, we have had a lot. I think it's scary. I think a lot of it, one of my favorite moments was FaceTiming her for the first time. And it was with her and her mom, actually. And this was fresh off of paradise. I don't know if we'd ever even spoke on the phone outside of... Yeah, it was like Mother's Day weekend because after Paradise, I was... I was really, like, not in a great headspace.

I was actually, like, just depressed over everything. And I flew right to Jersey after Paradise. And then I FaceTimed him with my mom. We were going to dinner. And, yeah, that was when we first started talking. Yeah. But the first time he came to Florida was early June. Yeah.

So we were talking on the phone, face-timing for about a month or so before he made his flight to Florida. I love this. I love it. I love it. Is there anybody... You just literally are smiling in each other. Is there anybody from the season that you guys would want to double date with? Do you have any favorite couple, if you will?

I don't know how. What would you say? I don't know because I'm watching the couples play out right now. I don't like, there's so much drama. We don't want the drama. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. This is true.

Yeah. I think everybody just... so different than, and one thing that really attracted me to her was just what real life really is. You know, the show is awesome, and it, but it only makes up just a certain percentage of our lives and stuff like that. And I think being able to separate yourself from TV and reality and make sure that reality is still at the top of your priority list and not get caught up in any of this other stuff was something that, you know, was why I was drawn to her as much as I have been. So I think looking back at the show now, I don't know.

I don't know. I mean, I just want to say, I just want to say again, Kathy is in Bachelor Nation and available for a double date. All your choir is that you find me the person that's going on the date with me. It's pretty simple. We'll go on a double date with you guys and you're men. But Kathy, I remember I was talking to you and I told you about him. Yes. Yeah.

In fact, so that's exactly where I was going. You read my mind. I was going to ask you, did you tell you anyone in Bachelor Nation that you were dating for you in public? And then I was going to say, besides me, because you actually did tell me. And Ellie Joe, I didn't tell anyone. I didn't tell anybody. I didn't tell Susan. I didn't tell anyone because it wasn't mine to tell, but I was so happy for you.

Did you tell anyone else? Yeah, Juliana, I told, we talked about it. like we were Face-timed her. Oh, yeah, yeah, you told me that too. Yeah. And so that's it. Boy, I'm in a really small elite club here. I feel honored.

Wait, Kathy, going back when we had Allie Joe on the podcast. I specifically asked her if perhaps you are asked to go on Paradise. Is there anyone in particular that you would hope to be there? You are. That wouldn't say anything. I didn't want to like put my like eggs in one basket or like that's what you said. That's what you said. You didn't want to.

wanted to, you said you had people in mind, but someone in mind, but you didn't want to say who it was. And I didn't either because look what happened. I got there and he wasn't there. And I, we had him talk about it and I said it the other day, like, I was still there. I still wanted to make the most of my time. You know, you'd put your life on pause and I really felt like confident. Well, I felt confident when I thought he was there. But afterwards, I still wanted to like get to know people. We're still there. We're on this amazing opportunity and you don't know what can transpire from it. So I was going to like shoot myself in the foot. Yes. Did I want to be with him? Of course. I mean, listen, I was only on beach for like 30 hours.

36 hours at that, but it's not like a nice time there. But again, I didn't want to make someone basket because you just don't know. I could have gotten here. So wait, I want to skip back to the, so when you went public, what was that like, like posting? Did it feel natural to go out? You know, because everything that happens in social media, you know, no one reads. It's just a few people or 10 million, one of the other. We kind of knew what we were getting into.

And that's why I kind of teased everybody when she. posted that, or I posted that photo and she's holding a drink and I'm in the background. Like, we, you know, we knew what we were doing. But did you love it that people said, oh, wait, it's the same hand? It was funny. It was really funny. It's like, oh, the fingernails are wild. Yeah, I had red nails.

And then we saw each other again after that came out and I got my nails. And again, and I was like, I'm doing a different color. Let's see. People pick up the things we think about that. It gave you something to kind of like smile at and, uh, It was funny. Yeah, it was definitely funny. We never hid ourselves from anybody, even whenever I would go see her.

We walked around. We were definitely very- Do people come up to you? Yeah, they would. And we would talk to anybody if somebody wanted to take a photo with us. I would just say, hey, you can take one with her, but we just can't be in the same photo yet together. So we only had really one instance where somebody,

I thought somebody was taking a photo of both of us. And I was like, hey, you can't post that. He's like, actually, I'm on FaceTime with my sister or something like that. So, yeah, we kind of knew what we were doing, but... You were trying to be careful. You know, we are, this is real life. Yeah, we want to live our life. Like, we're not on the show anymore.

So that's what we want to know. What's going on in your life? What do you guys have been up to? Tell us what your life is like now. Well, we both met each other's families. We both had, like, super big weekends. Like my mom, my stepdad, my sister, my aunts, my uncles, my cousins. Like, they were all in Florida for my episode.

So he flew in that weekend. He took a rumble class. He took a rumble class. And I met his entire family. I watched him coached a baseball tournament. I met, yeah, his nieces, niece, nephew. Yeah. You met everybody.

How about where we're living? Where are you now, Sam? I'm still in Myrtle Beach. You are in Myrtle Beach. Yes, ma'am. And she's still in. I'm in Fort Lauderdale. So you know the question I'm asking it, always because

up a bachelor is anyone moving i don't know let's just pick two two places just pick them out of the hat anyone talking about moving to myrtle beach or or maybe florida yeah we talked about it on our six-hour car drive home from atlanta yesterday long distance relationships and that's not even really that long of a distance trust me i have a long distance as you know and that is long but this is it this is doable until yeah it's fun though too i think it's it's it's it's time off. Like knowing that she's leaving today is it doesn't feel great. But what it does is that any time that's spent with each other is just so intentional. There's never a dull moment. There's never a complacent moment. It's really just absorbing every single second of time. And also, too,

it tests your levels of communication because you still want to show intention and show like desire and, you know, a pursuit of what you still want. And kind of an unorthodox fact. So for right now, we're making it work. Yeah, we see each other like every other weekend. It's been great. Do you have your next visit? I don't, someone we interviewed, I think it was Ben Higgins said that when he was dating way back in the dark ages, he, they never left without having their next date planned.

Are you guys doing that? Oh, yeah. It's funny. I was literally just looking at flights like 20 minutes ago. Yeah, we stay on top of that. You want something to look forward to. I think, you know, it's kind of a running clock and your tank gets to, gets to E. And right now, it's full.

Definitely challenging. But listen, like, all of his friends and good friends are, like, in relationships, married, have kids. All of my really good friends are in relationships, too. So we're also at that point, like, I mean, at least me. And I have him too. Like, we don't want to go out and just, like, go out just to go out, you know. How old are you guys again?

You're older, Alie Joe, right? How old are you? I'm 31. I'm 28. Yeah, I don't care. You know what? I like the older women. I like the older women.

Wait a second. Wait a minute, Sam. I am available. Kathy, she better be good to me if she's not good to me. Hey, Ellie, Joe, I'm tag teaming. I'm watching. I'm watching. So you better.

You better look out. I'm hiding in the. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to. school week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a

problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his

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Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, listen, you guys, we're going to move into our advice portion of the episode. We're going to kick things off with our question of the day, and we want your thoughts on it. Are you game? Let's do it.

All right, here we go. A lot of our listeners write in, about first dates turning into second dates. What are some signs that indicate the other person isn't interested that most people miss? Well, you're a guy, so let's see what you say. Okay. I would say checking your phone often during the first date. Oh, that's a good one.

Yeah? I would say not giving a firm answer as to when the second date would be. I'll let you know kind of thing. What about you, Alie Jell? What do you think? Yeah.

Like if they were on a first date to see if a second date would happen? Yeah. Well, yeah. And they're saying like listeners say to us, you know, we had a,

we thought, I thought it was a great first date but it never turns into a second date. And where are some signs that you would say that indicate the person that you had the first day with isn't interested?

That he doesn't, you know, make sure you got home okay, call you the next day. How are you? like it doesn't need to be a whole big thing. Like, we always say, like, we don't want to text every day. But, like, at least he should call her and say, hey, you know, I love seeing you last night.

What's your week? Like, let's get another date on the schedule, like on the calendar. We're all busy. How about this one if he lets you pay for the date, the first date? When I paid for the first date, you know, it wasn't going to be a second. Doesn't walk into your car. I mean, there's, you know, it's... You want to know what he does actually that I love.

And these are things I look for. Like, I feel like I'm more like old school. Like, every single time we get... in the car, he opens my car door for me. That is something that's so important to me and I always look for that and I've been on dates where guys don't do that. So I have a question.

My question of the day is I mean, Susan and I have been around the earth a few times, around the sun, whatever the expression is. And what is it? Do you think women don't care if guys don't have good manners?

Because every time we interview someone, right, Susan? They'll say, I'm old-fashioned, exactly what you said, Allie Joe, I'm old-fashioned, I like a guy to hold the door for me. What's the deal? Do guys not care? Maybe better ask them for you, Sam.

What is the deal that? I just think it comes back to probably the way that you were raised. You know, we're taught that, right? Absolutely. You're taught respect to your women and your elders. I've got two sisters. My parents are still married. They've been married for 30-plus years.

And I think being from the South, Everybody is extremely kind, but I tell her all the time. I didn't open up her door one time and it was actually the very first time that I met her in the airport. I was driving. And she was driving and I didn't because some people think it's weird. And I was like, I don't want to come across in a certain way. And then the next time I was like, you know what? I forget it. I'm going to do it and I'm going to explain to her.

Like if my mom was here and she watched me not open up this door, she would smack me. Or if it's pouring raining and you're running to the car. Then I get it. Everybody grab a door. Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, I just think it's the way that you're raised. I think a lot of guys don't know any better.

And I think from the female side of it, the whole chivalry is dead comment. It's true. It sucks. So can we just go on record here for anyone listening? Chivalry is not dead. Open the door for your lady. Open the door. Open the door for your lady.

And any other lady that's getting into the car. open up their door every single time. How about when you're walking down the street and you have her, you're holding hands, do you always stand on the outside where the street stays? I always thought it was an Italian thing, but I guess it's not. I know the answer to this. Do you, at least is what I was told, we could look it up.

Do you know why women are supposed to walk on the inside? To be safe. Yeah. No, it's not. Now, again, you know, writers, the hair's right in and let me know if I'm wrong. I've been told by more than one person, it dates way back to

when people used to take bedpans and slop and throw it out the window. And so it would protect the woman being inside. If anyone got hit, it was going to be the guy now. I don't know if that's true or not, but I thought it was, I thought it was kind of a cute story that, you know, the guys are still about safety, right? So it's about cars and, you know, health and safety, whatever.

Wait, before we get into the next thing, Susan, your first date was where? What was your first date? In Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, we went to the beach. We went to happy hour. We went to dinner. And then we met my friends out for the Panthers game.

And then, what was a week-long date? Weekends long. And then Saturday, we woke up. We went for a walk. We got coffee. And I had like a little pregame. It was my best friend's 30th birthday. Are we going to skip out on what you said whenever I first got there?

Oh, no. We're not skipping out. Spill, Alley, Joe. We're not skipping anything here. Because, like, we're both, like, straight far eyes. I was like, I got nothing. So I was like, I don't think I'm your type. I was like, really?

Why did you say that? Where did that come from? You said that you didn't think he was his type? I didn't think that I was his type. When did you say that to him? When? Like, within like the first two hours of hanging out? Yeah.

Why? Why did that come from? Why did you feel like that? Because he's like, you know, from South Carolina. It's a little slower pace here. mostly blonde girls like our girls and sweet people

not that I'm not sweet but just girls I feel like and I don't want this sound wrong way but like maybe that don't have like a voice as much and you know you mean you mean Alie Joe you don't say bless your little heart y'all come back real soon you hear exactly so I'm like I know what that meant I don't know that is Sam I'm from Massachusetts

so I live in Texas where I was like bless your little heart what yeah what yeah But see, being from South, I don't want that. Like, I'm pretty good 80% maybe 90% of the time. But, you know, if I ever kind of wander off, like I need somebody that can put me back in my place.

Put you back in place. That's right. She's not going to let you skip a line. Yeah, she's not. That's that Jersey girl in her. Okay, I have another question before we move on to our next part. Sam, both of you, of course, honesty here. when you met each other for the first time

you looked in each other's eyes did you know what did you know was it a feeling was it a for me yeah I was just so excited I was like this is either going to be something that's amazing or it's going to be like a one time thing but the way we connected

I just I was really excited I just I knew before I met her how how did you know back up whenever I say whenever I say I knew before I met her, I knew what type of personality she had and I knew that her and I would get along very well.

What was it about her that you liked? What attracted you? I think just very unapologetically herself. And outspoken says what she thinks. Yeah. She means and means what she says, yeah. For sure. But she's also like very in touch with her feminine side.

And I actually really love that. Like I love somebody that doesn't feel like like she knows that she doesn't have to wear the pants and anything she doesn't need to be the one to make all the plans she's a girly girl and I love that but she's also very strong and very um independent and she will say things she'll say what she wants and that's what I need but that's a perfect relationship when you're able to speak whatever it is on your mind and be comfortable saying it to your significant brother you know what I mean and how did you round all this up with the big bow of

they're both you are easy on the ice stand and Allie Joe you are absolutely stunningly gorgeous so I mean to get all this in two packages is I don't know it gives me hope for the future I feel so lucky because usually you know this sounds horrible to say but like sometimes

people who are really good looking have like a horrible personality or like sometimes like you know but like he doesn't and I think we're both just like very genuine and I think people think he's a certain type of way just from a show that they watched you know but I know who he truly is. And I think his colors show.

And, yeah. Yeah. When your mom met him on the FaceTime, she was happy, right? He's like, oh, my God, he's so cute. So cute. He's like, what are you going to be here? I was like, I don't know, mom. You're embarrassing me.

You're right. And how about you, Sam, when your family met? Oh, yeah. So my sister is a pretty harsh critic. And any girl that I ever dated, she's always like, you could do better. You could do better. And then I showed her a picture of Allie Joe.

And she's like, yeah, I think that's your seal. Sam, I'm like, goodness grace. Yeah, so. Yeah, they saw her and just, it's kind of the same thing. Just said, like, it looks like she has her shit together. Yeah. She's just very, like, very independent,

just very well-spoken, put together, and just thought that we'd make a make a good. It's perfect. And I know you're also an officiant like I am, so when that day comes, you know you can call me. Let's go, baby. And Kathy comes whatever I do one. I love that. I'll come and

throw rose pedals and say, I almost had him. You guys would be invited. All right, today. Now, we're going to answer some of our viewers or our listeners' questions, and they like to know what we think, our advice, if you will. You guys gave them to give some advice? Let's do it. Okay.

All right. The first one reads, hi, guys. I need to know if I'm in the wrong here. The other night, I went on a hinge date with a guy. our plan was to pick up ingredients together and cook since we both love cooking amazing right yeah yeah i thought so too we were in the car heading back to his place with the groceries when he looked at me and said so funny story i have a four-year-old daughter hello i'm 24 i can't be a mom i have so much respect for single parents and I have nothing against being a step-parent later down the line, but not when I'm a baby myself.

I was polite during the rest of the date, knowing I'd never see him again. Now my friends are split. Some think I made the right choice, while others think I blew off a great guy too soon. It was a great date, and I really do like him. I don't know. What do you think? Thanks, ladies. what says you what do you think guys

I think that if she at the end of the day isn't ready to be a step mom then that says a lot no matter how much she likes the guy because you're not just dating the guy you are also essentially dating his family like you know so you can't persuade yourself that you can do something if deep down you know you can do it so I would take it as that's a great friend

maybe down the line if she gets older and she decides like she's ready for that but if she's not ready for it now then she's not ready and that's okay. Yeah, I think it's a little maybe selfish to think that it's so easy to find true love later on down the road. And we talked about this, you know, I think it 24, you know, five years, five years can go by just like that. And I've learned that the love that you want is not just, you can't just open up your door and it's right there in front of you so um if you that's what i've been doing wrong i sit in front my door waiting for it to open you got to get on the outside of the door kathby thank you sam

you know when i when i was reading it her as soon as he said he had a daughter she already tuned him right she didn't give it a chance and later she really did like him yeah but hip i'm this going to play because i always like to devil's advocate my step-months And I know, Allie Joe, you have a stepdad. My dad married my stepmother when I was six, and my stepmom was 32, and she took on five children from the ages of six to 13 and had one of her own. So six kids at the age of 32, but she loved my dad so much. They were married over 40 years before he died. I don't think she would have done it indefinitely because she loved him.

but I think people thought she was nuts when she married my dad and she would be the first to say to you that it was really tough so at 24 if she says I can't be a mom that I'm with you it's it's saying that she doesn't want to do it and if you don't want to do it that child comes along with this fabulous guy and it's a it's a package deal right so if she doesn't can't be a mom for whatever reason. I think she has to move along. She's got to be true to herself, but she says it's a great date. I really do like them.

I don't know what to do. So she's questioning something. But how did you guys feel about, I love the date thing about going to get the groceries and making dinner? And then you spring that on her in the car. I think that's a conversation that maybe should have been had prior to the day. Yeah. On Hinge, you can say if you have a.

kid or not so like he should have been a little bit more honest because if she saw that she might have never want on the date to be given with and this issue wouldn't have so it's a lie it's a lie by omission right it's the same thing if i go on hinge and put my age down as 55 it's just a small detail it's just a little one right a little one i mean if you really like me do you care how old i am don't matter no so you know a four-year-old kid who cares you're right no i'm just saying He put her in a bad spot by not being honest off that because that's something you got to know. And she's got to make that decision immediately because it's the kid that will end up paying the consequences for the lack of honesty between two adults. Well, we do wish you luck.

And if you can't stop thinking about him, then maybe reevaluate the whole thing and get on a second way. I always say that like if I'm shopping and there's like a really nice pair of jeans that I. want, but I'm not sure if I really want to spend the money if I keep thinking about. Sleep bone. Yes. I still want the jeans and I'm going to go buy the team. I always want them, though. Ellie Joe, I always want them.

Yeah, Susan gets yourself into trouble. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know

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We're going to give you a chance to ask us some questions. But, Allie, Joe, you know me a little bit. You know I'm going to do this to you. So let's just bring for it. Okay. Do you think each other are the one? Are you each other? Look at them.

I can see it. That's Susan, for them to answer. I see it. you can yell at me later I yeah yes what do you think listen I think we have a lot of things

to like figure out like living wise like right now it's like working right now but I think living with somebody tells you a lot about them and changes things but that doesn't mean that when I say are you the one it means the one that

at this point I see myself spending the rest of my life with Yeah. To me, it's like all in or nothing. I'm not going to lose my time or someone else's time. And I'm not dating just to date. I'm dating someone to see a potential future with. And we've had like conversations of things. But Allie, Joe, it is time to fess up. Do we say I love you? Have you told him about your four-year-old child yet? My little poodle, my dog. Is the L word happening? I don't know. I really, I have no idea. Is that happening? I don't know. I think we're just kind of like moving at our own pace. I think one thing that we both love a lot is keeping what we have between us. There's certain things that I don't mind sharing with the world. And then there's other things where I'm like, this is something. Good for you guys.

Just know that we all in Batsonation, we are really rooting for you guys because you're both wonderful people. We weren't sure. Honestly, we weren't sure. But we're also like, this is us. Like if people will support it or not. so that we were really happy to see some really kind comments and just like yeah this from people is really nice focus on those guys yeah not used to that so it was nice to see i said look she's already she's already making me look better so

i'm like that i absolutely love all right what do you have questions for us if any want to go you want to go first well i yeah i do susan how's your relationship it's absolutely perfect He loved being in the United States. Okay, good, because I know you were like in the, what island were you in? St. Martin. St. Martin, okay. I was going to say St. Thomas. I was going to St. Thomas.

Where's he for? St. Martin? In St. Martin? Yeah. So when he was leaving, he saw New York, he saw Jersey Shore, he saw all the casinos, he saw South Jersey. I had him everywhere. And when he was leaving, he's like, well, when are we going to see each other? And I gave him dates.

I only have a week. And he was like, darling, that's not. long enough. I come back. So he's coming back. The other ones. Yeah. So you're doing like the long distance thing too. You know, it's not easy, but I would say nothing worth having having comes easy. Yeah. That's great. That's awesome. Yeah. What about you? Yeah. What about me? She's living in Canada right now at the moment. I'm in Canada. I'm in Canada. My sister lives in Ottawa and I've been here. My family came up. My kids, my grandkids came up. Uh, you want to know about my dating life?

Yes. You hear it? I love her. Although you just did a show, an amazing job on the show. Yeah, I got to tell you, you know, when Keith came on the show, when we were on the show and Keith said, Kathy and I, I have no romantic interests. Neither of us. We're just good friends.

But, you know, I was like, great. Now my DMs are going to flood with you. Do you remember that, Kathy, when we're getting off of goals. Golden Bachelor. Oh, your DMs are going to blow up all these people. Honestly, honestly, Sam, though, the truth is I would, I have a ton of energy. I love to do adventure. I love to do stuff. And I would love to find that person that would love to share this stage, this last great chapter of my life. I would love to find that person. But here's one of the many things I've learned about myself is I am a complete and happy person the way I am.

great family and great grandkids and if it happens it's great and if it doesn't happen then you know i can chase after you when alley jo's you know if it doesn't work out you'll share that's right that's exactly right you know share and share alike do unto others all those things but i'm a happy person you know it's about friendships too anyone have but since you brought up sam you got a father an uncle a stepfather a grandfather listen we do uh i know a lot of people so We should do like a dating game. You guys should like come here. We go there and like, I'll be a lot of fun.

Come on. Come on. Come to Austin anytime. I think us three would have obviously, excuse me, too, if you were in Paradise. But us three, we were on Paradise at the same time.

Like, that would have been. Oh my gosh. We would have had our own show. Yeah. I was so disappointed you guys weren't there. I really was. And I'm disappointed that you weren't there at the same time.

It would be great. I know. I know. What do you guys think about the show so far? What do you guys think about the money, the money aspect. I think it changed the dynamic of everything. I didn't, I mean, it was exciting that you could win,

but I don't trust any of the relationships now. It put it, yeah, a twist in there. I do, I think, you know, they say not for love nor money or money corrupts. I think it can. I think it's an interesting aspect to the show. It definitely changes the show. but in some ways I think it makes it more interesting

and just seeing how some of the relationships are going to play out I'm loving watching the show I'm a big fan I'm such a romantic I'm in love with love and I've seen couples that like disappointed me when I saw some

things that were happening like I really believe they were really in it together and now I'm looking like you bastards I always want to know and I will ask you know I will ask almost anything but I want to know when like when I watch back the show in my own I'm not surprised I mean I know what I said I know what I did but I wonder when other people watch the show back in those that are in relationships what do they think about hearing things about their guy or girl that they didn't know happen that always Just from a sociological point of view. We talked about that. Yeah.

Yeah, it's got to be tough because you don't know. And if there's anything that you weren't honest with, maybe to her, and it was in front of a camera, then you're kind of playing. You have no idea it could get shown. It could not get shown. That's right. So is there any specific couple that you really have hopes for as of right now what you see? I would say Spencer and Jess seem not really just like the most genuine into each other and like good energy and for the right reasons and like not for clouts.

Yeah. Yeah, I like them a lot. I think, I mean, especially because I took Jess on a date whenever I was there. Did you see him look at you? Like, when we joke about it, I think it's funny. When the episode came out, I called him and I was like, I was that sponge bat. Do you like any other couples? When he takes a shower, I'm like, you want a sponge bath?

I was like, that's cute. Yeah, no, I think that they're really good for each other, though. I think that I probably put Jess in it really, I don't think it was a difficult decision for her at all. And I think that just spoke volumes about her commitment to Spencer at that time. And then to see them, like, still kicking it and going strong right now out of everybody. I know every relationship has its challenges. I think the weight of those challenges, though, can, they're all different. And it seems like maybe their obstacles and their challenges are a little bit lighter

and maybe a little bit more reasonable than what I'm seeing from a lot of these other relationships on. What did you think? I have to ask you, what did you think about the golden's being nice? What did you think about the goldens being on? Listen, I think that you guys are the freaking best. I'm just pissed that I didn't get to meet you guys. And the whole world loves you guys, too. It's kind of funny.

I joke with her about it. I'm like, yeah, we all went on Jen season, weren't really like grant season, you know. And then the Goldens came about and everybody's like, the Golden, baby. Yeah. And I'm just loved I didn't get to see you guys. You guys came in hot.

They did. That was great entrance. Great entrance, too. I mean, I, you know, by, I don't know, you saw it, but by secret, that whole thing, like, damn, I was getting a day because I had to not get a date on our season. I was determined I was going to win a date. Yeah, that's how I felt too. So do you do every other one who travels to who? Is that part of a thing? Yeah, but it doesn't

really bother us. Like, there's been occurrences where, like, I came here the past couple of times, but that's okay because, like, we went to Atlanta this weekend. It just, like, has worked out like that, you know? And your schedule is flexible enough? See, I love it. Yeah, it depends. I mean, Sam, I got to ask one more question. You, you are. Are you not afraid that she could haul off and give you a left jab and her right hook? Listen, that's what I, that's what I kind of like, though, a little bit. I'm like, all right, I took the class. Yeah, I got to be all my best behavior for the most part.

So, uh, yeah. He's very, like, supportive. Like, I've gotten to him, a couple of things have been going on with, like, personal things. And I've gone to, like, ask for questions and just advice. And he's given me the best advice and just has been so supportive. So that was something that was really important to me because, you know, we're not together. So to pick up a phone or to have, like, like important conversations on FaceTime.

You know, you don't want it to be like that. He hears you. And he's listening. I think it's just, it's not like it was a test, but I think it's a good test to see, you know, when things do go sideways or south in life because how it happens, like how he'll show up there, how he'll show up for me. So let me say, we don't know whether you guys,

what your future holds, but Susan, would you not agree, the words you guys are using, you show up for each other, you listen, you communicate well, you spend time, making time for each other all your families get along all these things are ingredients that make a good relationship and so whether you know

our hope is that it just continues to grow for your guys listen to friends they pay attention the friendship has to be strong yes that's right and we see it we love this when you care that much it's it's easy it's easy to listen when the person in front of you

oh she's going to cry Okay, I'm over it. We love this. Thank you. I hate to say this, but I think that does it for today's episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. I want to thank you both for opening up to us and being here with us today. It means the world to us, right?

Really? Yeah, thanks, you guys. Your advice was great. We love seeing you guys so happy. Thank you all so much for joining us. and be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour because we do have new episodes coming out every week that you don't want to miss.

Today you heard all about Sam and Allie Joe. You don't know who's around the corner. And make sure you keep submitting the questions to us. You know what to do to go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. Or you can DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. Listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the IHeart, Radio app, or wherever you catch your podcasts. Until next time, have a great week.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back-to-school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes,

my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe. Find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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