Bachelor Happy Hour - Exclusive: Blake Moynes, ‘Perfect Match,’ and the NSFW ‘Paradise’ Moment You Never Saw | Happy Hour

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” Blake Moynes is here to spill some tea with Rachel and Charity! The Robert Irwin of Bachelor Nation is here to chat all about his work with wildlife, including plans for Charity’s dream vacation with elephants. Then, we get into the juicy, exclusive stuff you won’t want to miss! Did Clayton Echard take Blake’s spot on “Perfect Match”? Would Blake ever be the Bachelor? Plus, we get you all the details behind Blake’s “Bachelor in Paradise” deleted scene: What got his roast locked away in the vault?! We’re here to tell you! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I really do. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. We appreciate that. I mean, we're honored to have you. I was telling Rachel, I was like, you're like the Robert Irwin of Bachelor Nation. He's like, I like that compliment. Yeah, to some degree. You know, the Irwins are legendary. So, you know, getting to that point is something else. But we definitely share a few things in common. I definitely couldn't dance like that guy.

But I think you could. Yeah. Well, if I have a little tequila, right, you know? Yes, Tequila, Blake. We will get into all that because I feel like we have so much to talk about. you were actually just on Happy Hour, not too long ago. There was some speculation that you might have been on another season of The Bachelorette. Oh, tell us more.

Essentially, there was like a mix-up or things. Joe and Serena heard my name at the airport around the same time that they were potentially going to film here and there in Salt Lake and all these things. And the producer's name was named. My name was named. But I wasn't there. So I think there's coincidence. and then knowing that my ass has, you know, been on a couple of those. It was like not out of the question that he would maybe go and do something crazy like that again.

So speculation, but it didn't end up happening. Absolutely. Where in the world are you right now? You look like you're at home. Yeah, I'm at home now for another two weeks. And then it's an onslaught of craziness. Again, I don't get back basically until like October. Tell us about it.

Yeah, I'm like, I am like so intrigued by like your adventure. So I like, obviously, this is like my first, like, real time having a conversation with you, but I'm like, I'm here for it. So I need to know, like, everything that you do. And obviously, you being, you're about to be gone, like you said, for how many months? That's insane. Yeah. It's, um, where do I start? Um, okay.

So I essentially just work all over the, the world with different nonprofit organizations that focus on different animals. That could be trip specific things like, you know, what Rach came on last year. It could be media, film-specific. And it's basically expeditions, and we kind of storytell on all of the species that are at risk and the challenges and the triumphs and everything in between. And so, yeah, we're just, yeah, this year we're going Zambia, Namibia, Kenya, South Africa, Botswana. Yeah, shark work next week or next, yeah, in two weeks in Florida, going to talk. Australia do more manatees in Florida. We're going to the Maldives next month.

It's American bison in July. Elephant seal. Like, it's just like, we're all over. We're all over. So, yeah. I love this. Honestly, like, really fascinating. Like, but Charity, do you have, do you have, like, an animal that you've always

had, like, I would love to go and do this or a place or a destination that you would love to? I mean, I mean, I'm glad that you're asking me because I was. Also telling Rachel, like, for part of our honeymoon, me and Dotten, we want to, like, do like this, like, African tour and do like a safari. So, like, I want to be like, I mean, kind of similar to what you and Rachel did. Like, I need to be on grounds. Like, I want to get in there. So, I mean, I'm a lover of all animals. And I love that. Obviously, this is like your passion, but also like your career. And I think it's amazing. So, yeah, like, if the opportunity ever comes from me and Dotting to do that, I would love to. But yeah, I was like, Blake needs to come be our little host, our little tour guide. Well, I can definitely point you in the right direction if you don't do it with me. But if you do it with me, you can definitely deliver. Oh, my God, Blake goes on their honeymoon. Yeah, Matt.

I'm the one showing up in the morning with their coffee and waking them up with a cute little good morning. And, you know, today we're going to go do this. Pouring their wine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, no, I mean, listen, if you actually are serious about going up and doing that to point in the right direction and set you up to do things that are. exclusive access stuff that you could not do, you know, pay for technically.

Yeah. Oh my God. No, I'll have, I mean, if it won't be me reaching out, Dotting definitely will. So we'll chat after this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. No, that's so exciting. I truly feel like Africa was the highlight of my life. Like, Blake knows this. It was my dream to go on a safari and go to Africa. And we just had the best time ever and like are you planning i guess on bringing more bachelor people into that world or what do you have planned for the future with that there there's a lot being worked on right now i think um you know when it comes to we'll call it influence for impact right so you know even brach you know you coming along and doing that the notoriety exposure that even went to lessons and

conservation from just you being there alone and not actually putting even to there any crazy campaigns to help with that. But, you know, more eyes and understanding around these organizations, the work that they're doing is so important. And so, yeah, we're, you know, we've done, I think now four or five, you know, special guests type projects in the past. And we know that how much more we can do when we bring people along and get them out of their comfort zone a little bit. And, you know, rates you had it fairly easy in some way because that was very like high level well you've done what do you mean no no no no no no no well okay well this year uh botswana i can't tell you who's coming to botswana just yet oh my god is it a bachelor person yeah there's it's a it's a trio

actually there's a trio people oh yeah and so after the and reach it's a different kind of it's a different location on the second half. Same thing helicopter flying all these different things. But then it's the package at the end that you probably wouldn't have loved and like tent like tending out with the Rangers. Blake knows I don't camp. I was going to say, Rachel, how did you like I can't, how long were you all even there for like forever?

Well to me that was like camping too a little bit because we were in it like there was like a tent. Like, we were not inside a hotel, but it, like, was really nice. Obviously, there's, like, indoor plumbing and there was, like, a bedroom. But, like, still, that's, like, camping to me. Yeah. Blake knows I can't do it. I get scared.

No, you did. You did great, though, on your outfits and, like, everything. That's what he says every time. He's like, your outfits. Well, they were. They were good. That's the only thing he knows to compliment me on. He's like, your outfits are really good.

I'm like, how was her survival? How was her, you know, how was she managing? Yeah, how was I? No, I mean, you're easier than I thought that you're going to be. That's good. Yeah. I thought I did great. No, I mean, listen, like, you know, we have a bunch of other, you know, guests that were on that trip.

And I think the one thing, which is interesting for guests, right, they don't get to meet people that have been on these shows and things before. And they were all just, you know, I love her. I love her because she just, you know, was easy to fit in and get along with. everybody. So she had, you know, like, like, Rach, I'm reviewing a lot of that stuff that we've been putting together these like vlog experiences from. No one's seen yet. Um, that eventually will come out. But, um, you know, you can see you and, you know, San Jo and every, yeah, it's, it was a lot of fun. She did great. She did great. And, um, and she dove in. I mean, she had little breakdowns here and there, naturally. I had one. Wait, whoa. Over what? Please tell me. And I'll tell you if it's

valid or not. When I was on the Africa trip, it was like, it was like, you. It was like, like a couple weeks before a perfect match was about to air. And while I was there, I was getting texts. Their editing is a little bit different. And they were starting to ask me questions and they're like, what did you mean by this? What did you mean by this? And I was so nervous about all the Clayton stuff coming out. And I just was trying to have a good time and put everything out of my mind.

And one night I did have a couple glasses and one had a full breakdown next to a hippo. Full mental. Okay. Wait, not valid. Because I was like, sorry, hippos,

yes. I'm like, and those things come out of the water. No, they do. Yeah, and they run. They like charge.

So I'm like, no, that's okay. And that was a. I had, or I think that was it. I think that was it. Yeah.

I mean, listen, it's a, it's a role. Like, there's a, there was, you were definitely managing a lot

at the same time. It's a very over stimulating. There's all these, you're constantly on the go. There's no time to really sit and like, when you're trying to, you know, manage the over-thinking that comes with that and what's going to happen on that. There's a lot going on. So, yeah.

And, you know, you came over to my tent and you're just like, I just, I need a second. Okay. The traumatics of the impression of me right now. Okay, Blake. We know I had a good. That was really good. I need a second. That was like spot on.

I'm like, yeah. Speaking of perfect match, Blake. Oh. You? Are you? We're supposed to go on perfect match. You were. I was very, very close to be going to with Rachel and the last minute, I just could not. I could pull trigger on it. Wait, okay. No, we, okay, we, yeah, this is great, because I'm like, I need to talk about this. Okay. It was it like personal reasons? Like, is it public knowledge why you didn't want to like go or

what like kind of stuff to you? There was a combination of things. I was seeing somebody, uh, kind at the same time, Rich you remember. And so it was, it wasn't like a full relationship, but it was like, and then the same time, it's like going to do another show that I was unsure about. I just, it was, there's too much, too much hesitation. And I didn't feel really confident and excited to go. So I wasn't, like the saving grace is knowing that Rachel was likely going when I was at her apartment talking about it.

And it was, you know, we were close to go. Rachel was only the, what, maybe. weeks before or something. Uh-huh. Well, yeah, I think they were casting. I can't remember when we were talking about it, but you were the only other name. I was on the phone at like your place, yeah. Yeah.

I'm not to say something crazy. So did Clayton take your spot? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, like, I know they were pressing hard, like, hard to make it happen. Like, they're on me every day. Yeah. I don't know.

I think around the same time to, like it was out there, Rachel and I were always hanging out and, you know, doing the C-trial stuff together and all these things. So I think they actually, they wanted some type of like, hmm, curiosity around who was going to be there with Rachel? Well, we all didn't. And I delivered. Yes.

Yes. Yeah. Wait. I mean, I guess we'll never know, but I would have loved to see that play out. I mean, I feel like that. I feel like everyone saw it in Paradise. We were there together. So it would have probably been like a similar.

experience, I feel. Yes. Yes and no. I think, though, too. Like, our relationship, our relationship now is, you know, we were, like, friends there, but now it's,

like, I know you know a whole different, you know what I mean? Like, there's so much more depth there. I forced Blake to be my friend in Paradise. Because we were not friends before Paradise. I actually really didn't, like, like, before. Wait, really?

This is true. Like, Like, do you remember. Okay, so the first night I met Blake, he did not say a word. He was there with our former manager and he was sitting at the end of the bar, just silently listening to my conversation. And by the end of the dinner, he had so many tequilas that he yelled at me using a plastic straw. And that was the first time we had a conversation. Honestly, I am 50-50 because I'm like, the plastic straws, we do not use.

I do understand that. He had a go at me in the middle of the restaurant. And Rachel was like, who are you? I was like, who are you? First off, I don't yell, Rach. Was that being a bit of a shit and to start giving you years? Tequila Blake, yes. Yeah, but I'm like, I'm harmless.

I'm just a little bit more out there when I'm drinking. Yeah. Yeah. Pele Blake. I feel like that's, yeah. Is that like, is that a your alter ego? I only get to actually. Wait, what did you say?

A little. A little. A little. Gila Blake, the night of the roast. Yeah, that was, yeah, that was a little. They had to completely cut Blake's roast because of how crazy it was. I have never heard anything like that in my life. And I'm trying to think you were partnered with Mercedes.

Right? No, I was, sorry. Oh, we had partners, right? Yeah. Who was your partner? Kylie, Kylie. Kylie. Okay.

And that was the day that Katie Thurston came down to the beach and you guys had a little chat. And I think you were also going through it a little bit with Jess at the time. So Tequila Blake did start to come out early in the day. And by the time we got to that roast, the things that came out of Blake Boyd's mouth. I mean, I'm trying to even remember. I was like, don't give us the worst, but like give me a. like so I, because obviously I'm like, I don't even, I don't even think I heard about this from anyone. Blake, explain yourself.

I, I, I, okay. He's like, I don't want to say this. So, yeah, I don't have that much of a filter when I'm drinking. And I'm not great like, just jokes off the cuss. Like, a lot of my humor where people are like laughing, like, would be like, you just said that. Like, I'm, I can be off the cusp and say shit that's like a little bit fucking wild. Yeah. And so there were specific things.

I remember the first thing I came out with was something around Katie and John Hershey and how something about, because she mentioned that I like to be called daddy, which was a joke that I think. Got it, got, got, got it. Anyways, we went to the whole thing. And I remember Jesse looked at me right away and was like, dude, this is an ABC show.

We cannot put this. Like, you can't talk like. Not Jesse flagging it. it was just things that were like a little bit much just just vulgar not necessarily mean they weren't like just like not PG not family friendly yeah like the whole thing would have been a bleeps

and it was just yeah things that were just a little wild I don't even think they could have bleeped it out how vulgar it was I'm screaming Rachel is like she is double downing on this she's like no it was the most insane thing she's ever yeah Yeah, we'll leave it at that. We'll leave it at that.

Good to know. ABC should release the tapes. That's all the way. He's like, no, no, no. Leave out. We'll keep, we'll keep Tequila Blake in the archives for now. We'll bring him out. We'll bring him out in person.

Not on Bachelor Happy Hour. We'll find them in person. Yeah, it would be good, though, to see those lines because I remember them being like, the boys coming to me after and being like, bro, you're fucking crazy. I mean, you and Jess broke up. Was it that? night or like the next day. Yeah, she was not happy with you after that.

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a relationship before you guys went on y'all season of Paradise. So, like, at any point when you guys came on the beach, like, you, Blake and Just, y'all peered up pretty quickly. But, like, was there ever any interest with you guys exploring, like, a relationship? Or what was that dynamic, like, at the time? I feel like it was, like, a media. I just forced Blake to be my friend because we were the two like older people on the beach that have been engaged.

And it was kind of, I just felt camaraderie with you, even though we got off to a really rough start. Yeah, it was it was kind of like a, it was almost like a safety feeling in a way. And I think the like I started talking, I think the first day was when I started talking to Jess. And I think what, Rachel, Sean or something? Yes. That's when I was in a relationship with Sean. Yeah. Like really liked that one.

Yeah, I did. Yeah, I was giving my two cents across the board and everything that you were kind of doing. And, you know, you didn't always listen, which is okay. But I was, you know, trying to be there as much as possible for you. So, yeah, it was kind of like we got, I think we just felt a little out of it in comparison. Everyone else knew each other well. And we were the ones that kind of didn't. Yeah.

But I think that's where I think some of the core friendship and trust started coming from and comfortability and familiarity. And then from there, it was like, yeah, we went, did sea turtle work and all that stuff. And then it wants to want to end. So, you know, when you spend that amount of time with somebody and doing some of those other cool things outside of paradise, you know, naturally just become much closer. So that's where I think majority of it came. like the friendship kind of came from and like solidified.

Yeah. Yeah, Blake is the only person in the world. I feel like he will actually tell me like what I'm doing wrong. I love that. Give it to me actually so straight. Like Blake knows if I ever need an opinion on something, which I do often. He is the one I go to. So we're thankful for Paradise and for our old management, or at least I am. Now, you guys have a really like beautiful like friendship.

obviously I'm like enough that it keeps the internet speculating between you two but I loved like obviously to hear both sides from you guys of how y'all's friendship formed and all the cool things that you guys get to do together so I love that yeah there'll probably be another time where she comes back and doesn't does another thing another another project hopefully I wanted to do the manatees I was about to text you about that after because you know that is the one I want to do well we can talk about that because there's there's still room to potentially pull that off. Perfect. Yeah, I need to figure out. I need to get on Blake's restaurant. I'm trying to go. Charity, what would you want to do? Like, if you have one animal that was specific for the trip, what would you want to do?

I'm like, first of all, actually, Blake, you can correct me if this is, like, controversial because I know, like, a lot of people are, like, oh, these are, like, not good to do. But it is, like, kind of in conjunction with, like, my top two things on my bucket list is, like, elephant. I know elephant sanctuaries are, like, a, you know, they can be like, yeah, a little, not okay, but. Yeah, I mean, it's, it is, you're, you're very right. And that is, it can be controversial and there's a lot of depth to it.

And so I wouldn't blanket statement, um, sanctuaries. I think the, the functions and the things you're able to do at certain sanctuaries. And there's a lot of behind the scenes of like, is there a traffic component here? Right. Is this actually ethical for the animal? Right. You know, you're supposed to not, you're supposed to really limit any human interaction, but the same time, you know, if that,

what's drawing i say for example in botswara went to elephant haven right if there's no one coming through those places um there's no funding and those elephants are all orphans what happens to them right they're no longer so i think it's it's it's trying to manage each situation and look at them specifically and not yeah throw a blanket statement overall and there's different regions and areas and then you know who's the one running the place like what's right who's who's the you know there's just a lot uh to consider so you're not wrong um yeah there's just ways to go about it in certain places that you go on to avoid exactly so trying to do that as ethically as possible but i love elephants so i'm like if i could ever see or just be in proximity close to when i would

be a dream come true so that's what i want to do and obviously the safari already mentioned so Charity and Dotten for an elephant project would be amazing. No, I would actually, like, you don't understand. I would actually, like, I would be crying the entire trip. I'm not kidding. It's like, it's number one. Like, it's number one on my list of anything I need to accomplish in this lifetime. And it's that.

I'm so serious. So, like, if you make it happen, I owe you my life. I'm laying it down. He's writing it down right now. No, I love that. All follow. And I'm like, I love that. It's obviously all, like, him explaining the whole, like,

like ethics behind it. That's obviously very huge to me because I'm like, yeah, like, we're not doing anything. We're not thought I wish C World would be done. Like it's like stuff like that. I'm like, that's just horrifying. I'm like, I can't bring myself to support. So I like, I definitely would love to do these things the right way. So I feel like obviously this is your line of work and you have a lot of knowledge about that. Yeah. I mean, there's already things coming to to mine. And May we're going to South Africa to execute a film project. with a partner that I worked with a few times now. And that's where, you know, when they need funding to maybe it's an elephant that's been,

you know, gored by another elephant through a tusk or maybe they need to replace a collar for, you know, science research purposes, that is an ethical way in which you can never really time it because it's only if the animal needs support or funding to which, you know, you can get up close and personal in a way that is supporting the reserve or the research initiatives or the vet procedures and you can kind of help while that elephant's down, you know, taking the hair samples and measuring and you can be up close in that way where you're actually supporting an initiative. And though that is that is not overly challenging to pull off and probably doing it in May this May anyways. But yeah, there's there's definitely opportunity for all that.

Beautiful. I do want to ask like in this might be. Listen, fingers crossed. This might be another like dumb question, but I say no questions are dumb. But like how, like, obviously Rachel went on these trips with you, but like say someone that's like listening to this. Like how is that something that's like ever accessible to like the public? Like how do people get to come on these like expeditions and do these types of things that you guys are doing? So we have different programs that someone we've done annually. For example, you know, Botswana with Rachel last year is one that we actually put out. It's one of the ways when we can, we work directly with the NGOs, which is what we do differently from any, I don't know, trip advisor,

or wherever you're finding a safari. We build them out not with a lodge directly. We build it out with a nonprofit partner. That allows us to access exclusivity and activities that typical operators cannot. While at the same time limiting the funding that goes to operators and it goes directly to NGOs. It's a lot more work on our end because we are now becoming the trip facilitator in person and all of that. But that's the way in which we can provide really rich experiences and impactful experiences where you're interacting with the NGO from the people that know it best.

And so we create these programs that, yes, anyone can come on. And we usually run, I don't know, six different destinations a year. This year we're coming out with new ones, Maldives for the first time next month. Costa Rica will be going to Australia. There's a bunch of new ones coming. But, yes, we do offer up to other people who are like-minded and want to go out and do these things and actually do more of an impact trip versus just a passive safari. I love this. I'm like, everyone should, everyone should know about this. Like, it makes me sad, though, because I'm like, you know, like people like are just so quick to just book, you know, whatever on their little vacation and it might not be the best like, like, obviously thing for the animals, the environment, whatever. And it's like, like, yeah, I don't know. We need to like, spread the word. I know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm getting too excited. I think this, you know, when you guys find out who's coming on to Botswana, this year, you know, we can chat the word. We can chat. We can chat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm getting too excited. It will be. I think we'll be. I think this. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

year. I think it'll be a fun to fall along with because these people are very entertaining and you'll, it'll make sense as soon as you figure out who. Wait, is it like Justin or something. Is it like Justin? Oh my gosh. It's like Justin, Andrew and Gregg at the same time. It has to be. Now, wait, a trio? Is it them? Wait, do we just guess? Because they were on the same season. He can't say. Blake was on that season. If it is, if it is Justin, I mean, he would make it. No, honestly, I could not go on that trip because I would laugh nonstop. Can you imagine the content that's going to come from this trip?

I will be absolutely following along. I love how we're like confirming it. I know. A trio, it has to be. Well, you're going to find out very soon because we are announcing it very, very, very soon. So exciting. Legendary. And throwing those guys into the mix of like, you know, we're going out, living in like a little,

Little tense, tense. No, no, I'm saying we as in. I'm not telling you who. Living out little tents, living with the rangers and trackers who go through the habituation process. So they're going to be very out of their element, these people. So this is going to be very different than the last trip. The last trip was very five-star. That's an add-on.

So we're going to do similar, Rich, to what you did. Different second location, know how we flew, or, yeah, we flew into the second location, that private resort, or private lodge. different private lodge, different area, and it's like one of the most densely populated with leper is going to be wild dogs. You can get to see wild dogs last time. I know, you wanted to see one so bad.

Oh my God. Yeah, so we're going to get that this time. But yeah, then we're doing another three-day, four-day, like getting in four-by-fours, driving into the middle of nowhere, meeting up with the Rangers and living with them, boots on the ground, doing their patrols and they're so, it'll be, yeah. It'd be good to see those guys in that situation. Oh, my God.

Wait, wait, before we like switch gears, Blake, with what you know about me, which is like, I don't know how much, probably limited information, but do you think that I would do well on something like this? Like, and next, like kind of similar to what you and Rachel did. Do you think that I would fare well? Yeah, I do. I do. And I think that if you, it doesn't take very long, especially if it's just something specific around elephants where you're getting to live out a dream or a, you just buy in. And I think once you know, realize how rewarding it can be when you're actually doing something that's impactful at the same time and it's not. And you're getting involved.

It's, I don't know how to explain it aside from like you just have to do it. But it's you just buy in. And you know you're there to usually once in a lifetime. You're probably not going back. And yeah, it depends, you know, what challenges we throw at you. And we would make sure we navigate that properly. But, you know, we would know your limits before. going in. But at the same time, we would challenge. We will challenge your comfort zone a little bit.

And I think after no matter what, you walk in and be like, I'm so glad did that or I'm so, you know, you'll be just fine. I thought it's there, if dawn's there, you know, you're, yeah. But in chair, you're, you said one with, oh, perfect. He's not one thing, which is like, which is buying in. And I'm like, I feel like I do well with stuff like that. It might take me like at least 24, 48 hours, however long. But it's like, once I can see or just like, I'm immersed in it's like I'm there and like obviously always after I'm like yeah this is the best thing I've ever done for myself so I think I would would do well we'll say we'll say we take care of everything like we take we took like Rachel like we just we handle everything um there's nothing you

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After we plan Charity's Honeymoon, now we're going to quiz you. What's the scariest experience you've ever had? scariest experience I've ever had. I was thinking about your drowning one. Have you talked about that? Oh, yeah, that was, yeah, that was not, yeah. Oh, man, I'm so sorry. Yeah.

Well, yeah, that's a bit of a long story, but really quickly, essentially, I came back from Kenya, was really, really sick and had the flu, and you're not supposed to be diving at depth coming back from a sickness. Have brand new fins are really, really long. I hadn't dove earlier that day, and I was, wanted to get one good, big, dive in and I did not realize how far down I dove on this was free diving so no no no tanks yeah by accident not realizing that I went down 70 feet diving with sharks uh oh my god and when I went down all the way down there I remember turning around the reason I realized they even was so deep was that

I saw the bottom and I'm like I've never seen the bottom here it's 100 feet of water and so when I turned back around I remember how far like the sun was coming through the the light and the people at the the water just look like ants. So I dumb, started panicking a little bit. Not that I was out of air, but realizing I'm deep here. And gravity starts to take you after 30 feet and pull. So I started fighting my way back up, expending a lot of energy and realizing then you're getting the gulp feeling of like. Oh, man. And you're like running out of air. And then I don't remember anything about 15 feet from the surface. And I remember feeling really woozy as coming up. And then I don't remember anything.

Then I popped up to the top and was face down. And my body was convulsing. It was like a jackhammer because I had no oxygen left in my body. So I'm very close to having a black out, which has killed a lot of people. I was very fortunate that somebody was right at the top to be able to flip me over on my back and get me out of the water essentially. But yeah, terrifying in that, you know, multiple of factors can play into these scenarios. And, you know, you really got to think these things.

through, but it was a combination of unfortunate, unforeseen, and not, yeah. So I've learned my lesson there. I'm way more careful. No, that is very scary. First of all, thank you for sharing that. I mean, I can't imagine that would actually, I would probably never go back in the water. I know. I would never come again. Yeah, no. Oh, my God. That's, that's scary. You need to come on one time and tell the full story. Yeah. Yeah, it was wild. Learned a lesson, but, and now I'm just, yeah, way more. work. I think I can do anything, you know? So like, I just like, I'll handle whatever. I'm fine. I'm fine. And then sometimes you, you know, you do things like that. And there's other wildlife issue, like interactions and

things around like. Is there that scary wildlife interaction? I had to, um, I mean, there's been a, been a few. I think, um, yeah, there's been a, there's been a few. But more so one was a part of the Ranger program that I took into a certification South Africa, which, um, which, there's been a few. There's been a few. which was scary where there's a poaching incident where I was like outposted in the in the in the middle of nowhere basically with a ranger that speaks COSA that we were both in the program together and we didn't he didn't speak English very well and he he had fire but we were there because Ryan would just got poached like two days before so we were doing like an outposted we were in the middle of nowhere in the dark and I remember we heard footsteps nearby which we were

supposed to like radio it was like there's like little like there's a but there's so many Talk about all these. No, literally. We need a full exclusive interview. Like we have all the time in the world because I'm so fascinated. But I do. You tell the full story. It is like.

Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh my God. But I feel like yeah. Like you said, you have that person. You have to have that type of personality with like the things that you're doing. Like there's no way.

I'm like I would have one incident. I'm like, I'm so sorry. I love the world, but I got to go. Like I'm out. Like that's it for me. Like we're good. okay um yeah okay let me see like let's give an easy one i know i know what's the most traumatic thing you've ever been through and would you ever go back to paradise um okay i want to ask this one

this one this one's probably something rachel already knows but is there an animal or if there is like which animal are you most afraid of he probably is like primates uh primates chimps um there's something there's a few animals that um make me worried only because I've never necessarily interact with them and because their intelligence is so high that, you know, there was an instance where there's a spider monkey that scalped somebody, you know, and these are the instances like, so for example, right, you can kind of understand and read behavior of like a lion, for example, right? That, you know, sure, they can act on emotion or be triggered in some ways, but there's typical behavior that you can typically pick up on

in scenarios and you can gauge, you know, red, yellow. you know, you know, green signs of like when you're safe, technically, even on foot. But when it comes to primates, you're thinking about the, they're almost like children. So imagine that a, that's how I take it. A child, you take something from it. Freaks out, right? But this child is actually has something that is extremely strong. And if they want something, they're going to take it back and they can really hurt you.

And so because you can read behavior, yes, can be a thing of I stepped on its tail by accident in this instance, right? And it wants to come back and bite. But this woman actually tried to keep it away and kick by accident. She went back into town, this is in the Amazon in the middle of nowhere, this sanctuary in the middle of nowhere. She came back into town for two days. That spider monkey waited for her to come back on ship as soon as it saw her two days later, held a grudge, um, attacked her. And, and, you know, but like a chunk of her hair gone. So a primates extremely intelligent, incredible animals, but I think because I don't know enough about them and they're more complex than, you know, breeding an animal based on instinct

or, you know, natural behaviors. There's other things that can trigger those animals, ban on motion or whatever it is. And so there's just something I don't, something that makes me more respect them more. Yeah. Didn't you have a spider monkey thing? Something happened with a spider monkey with you? No, I've had great instances interactions. But yeah, you've had like some story about the spider monkey.

Yeah, oh, I just had yeah, no, oh, Capuchin, no, I got attacked by a Capuchin monkey in the wild, yeah. It was on the trail in front of me and I was warned, don't go through this region of the Amazon on the waist through this other building

and I had seen spider monkeys up in the tree, so I went over by myself to look at them. Capuchin jumps onto the trail in front of me on the ground and it's being all cute kind of walking up to me like turning its head and doing like this is this is cute and we had worked because they are are partly habituated in the fact they just had a soft release from the sanctuary to be rewilded again and so I'm like okay I think this this specific individual I don't know who it is but it must recognize me from maybe yesterday or feel comfortable who started coming up to me and it was started going it was going like this

up like towards me like so I I naturally put my hand down out yeah yeah yeah he didn't he he he he with his hand he grabbed my fingers he came up on onto my hip and I'm like alone and I'm like this is kind of wild I'm no someone around came up onto my shoulder as soon as he came up onto my shoulder and we were taught this in the interactions with the other coochins just be careful you need to make sure you cover your ears right away if something because they know your vulnerability and they can rip that thing off so Out of nowhere, not even, yeah, out of nowhere, two more jumped from the trees above me that had not nowhere there landed on my shoulders.

I covered my ears right away. And, and boom, what's just exactly what they said. One bit into my thumb here and then I'm a bit into the back of my neck. And I didn't freak. I just stayed calm. Yeah, yeah. And then I'm so good. Because I didn't know what to do.

So I just like yelled for a buddy of mine who was in a different building further away. And he came out and just like started clapping and they just kind of took off. But yeah, then I had like, yeah. So like, and I forgot. I forgot about that story. But yeah, there's, um, primates is where I was. Yeah. All right.

We just. Good to know. I'm like, I'm learning. This is like, yeah, I'm learning so much. I could listen to Blake to talk about this all day long. I'm like, this is like PBS kids for me. Truly, you are a Disney princess. Like these animals just like sense that he has good intentions.

And they know. I'm like, we need a, we need a show for Blake. Like, That's next. He needs a little educational. National geographic. Yeah. I'm like, I would listen.

Maybe one day. We're working on some things. All right. Well, speaking of that, would you ever do another dating reality show or are you retired? I mean, I'm like, that's a long pause. No, I mean, I've, it's been three now that I've said, no. two within the last obviously from last year and there's two this year

and Rachel you know about that well at least one of them I think anyways I think would have to be a very specific kind one and the right timing I think right now it would be challenging to pull off because I know I know I wouldn't be the I know I wouldn't

I could go on fake it I could go on and fake and go through the emotions of it but I know I would probably be a shitty boyfriend outside of it knowing how much travel and stuff. And so knowing that, I know I would fail that person coming out of the show in this current moment.

And so if I know that, then I would go in playing the game. And if I'm going to go in, I lean in and I do it right. I want to do it right. And actually, you know. So yes and no, it really depends on timing what show. But likely, you know, going a different direction, probably not a dating one. and maybe leaning into the stuff that I actually care about and, you know, more of the wildlife adventure type stuff, if anything,

or a competition or something different, you know. Yeah. Would you ever be the bachelor? Ah. What do you, what did you say would I ever be? Would you ever be the bachelor? Rachel. I'm just asking.

No, I, again, I think it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it would be a timing. Yeah. thing maybe a timing thing and i think the other thing there is i think that if that was going to happen people would know who i am what they're signing up for it's not me as random coming into a you know say it was perfect match where they who's this guy would you travel explain that to me i think people if you know your analysis is that people are going to know is this life for me i see how much he's you know and they're gonna so there's more of like i think they would be more understanding understanding i think the challenges people don't really understand me that well

don't do a great job of yeah so mate it would have to be the right year and it would have to make a sense and I think a lot of things have to come to line up and I just so I don't anticipate that ever happening that's such a mature answer I'm like Blake I'm like if we were to ask anybody else yeah tomorrow and it's like knowing damn well that they have no business doing any of that so I respect that I actually really do like that's a true honest genuine response Yeah. Yeah. Well, listen, you're not doing yourself any favors.

You're wasting time. You're wasting their time. Now, and, yeah, like, listen, people have a hard time as is in the dating world. And so if you're going to be the bachelor, you have to be, you have to be completely in the right mindset, right spot in life. And, you know, if there's any, you know, red flags, things you're unsure of, you know, that's all going to come out in the wash in the end because the hardest part is actually the after, I think, probably, right? And so, and so that life, yeah, listen, you owe it to somebody. If they're going to be coming to spend their time and give you and devote it to you during the whole process, you better be fucking ready to give them that on the outside. side when the time means the most and actually, you know, come through as the person you say you're going to be.

And right in this exact moment, I know it would be extremely challenging for me to do that, unless they could come along with me with every venture, but then I'm taking away from their life. You know, so they'd have, there's have to be a real good understanding of both parties inside. I love this. Okay. Blake is our next bachelor. We'll have to get a cast that is purely devoted to his lifestyle. I'm so here for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he knows. There's so much, there's so much definitely. Yeah.

I think it could be a really fun season because I would like to see them. Like, imagine the challenges. Like, can you put up a tent? Yeah, I think he's like, he has like the perfect like lifestyle to like honesty curate an entire season around, you know? It's like there, we already know what the headline would be, the thing. Like it's just, yeah, like finding someone that obviously fits the mode for y'all's life and compatibility, but I think it would be really fun.

So I'm putting your name in the hat. I have no powers, but I'm putting your name in the hat. People talk about Robert Irwin being the bachelor. If he could do a Robert Irwin here. Robert can do the one in Australia. We love Robert, but we'll take playing. Yeah, I would definitely be wild. It would definitely be wild.

Some of the destinations could be a lot of fun if that are. Insane, yeah. But, um. And like, and me and Ray and, Rachel could come and host a little date. There you go. There's your elephant work right there. There's my elephant work.

She's on the elephant date. The elephant one-on-on-one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I love it. Well, Blake, thank you so much for being here. We loved having you. We would love to have you again to hear all your stories.

But thanks for being here. Yeah, so much fun, obviously chatting. And this being our first official chat, but we have so many more to come because we have a whole honeymoon to plan with you. So you better hold your word. You better hold your word. Blake, I'm not kidding.

You can't tease elephants with me. It's the only thing on the page. It's the only thing on the page. Yay. I love that. All right. Well, that is all for today's episode. Again, Blake, thank you so much.

We loved having you. And to all of our listeners, be sure to subscribe. We have way more fun interviews coming your way with Bachelor Nation faves. Bye. Bye. We still don't have an ending. Yeah, we don't. We're like, bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze.

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