Bachelor Happy Hour - Exclusive: Chloie Found Paradise | Golden Hour
Episode Date: April 28, 2025Today on “Golden Hour,” Chloie from Grant’s season of “The Bachelor” is breaking some major news: She’s in love! She’s telling us everything about her new rom...ance, including how they met, how they found each other again, and what she’s expecting in the future. Will we be hearing wedding bells anytime soon? Then, Chloie reveals her experience with modeling, including advice she has for anyone looking to break into the industry! Plus, Chloie helps dish out some advice to our listeners who are struggling with self-confidence and friendships. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Okay, so today we have a very special guest, another yet another, Susan.
I'm telling you, and they're all beautiful, talented woman from Grant's season.
Please help us welcome.
Chloe, hi, Chloe, welcome to Golden Hour.
How are you?
How are you?
Look at that smile.
You're beautiful.
Oh, thank you.
Tell us all.
How are you?
We want to know how you're doing.
I'm really good.
Yes.
say the best I've ever been.
Yes.
Whoa.
I love this.
Okay, well, before we get to any of that, we want to know how you got on the show.
What did you apply for the show?
Take us back a little bit.
We want to know your past before we hear your present.
Sure, sure.
Yeah, I, so I got picked up like really late in their casting season.
So it was last summer and I was kind of just like quarter life crisis.
What am I doing with my life?
I've been freelancing in New York.
for like five years, and I was talking with my roommate, and she was like, you know, you'd be the
perfect candidate for reality TV. Like, you should apply for something. Just because single,
creative, you know, I can kind of just like uproot my life and it's, don't have to quit my job
or anything. Right. And I describe it. Like, you know, when you easy apply on LinkedIn, and it's
kind of just, you do it in two seconds and you don't think anything about it. And you're like,
I know I'm not going to get this, but it just makes you feel better. That's kind of how I,
felt applying
like it was just kind of like oh
this is just a funny thing
to do on an afternoon and filled it out with my roommate
and then two weeks later
I was sitting in the nail salon talking to my mom
and I was like wait have a call waiting
I'll call you back and then it was a producer
from The Bachelor and I was like
wait excuse me what? Did you think it was real
or did you think you were being played?
Well at first I was kind of like excuse me
I don't often answer
you know random phone numbers
numbers that you don't recognize right it wasn't like an 800 number so I was just like let's you know you never know who it is and I was like wait sorry I can't hear like what I'm producer from The Bachelor and I was like uh it like totally a second but okay did you tell the lady stopped doing my nails let me go outside and take this or did you stay right there I was the only one in the nail salon and so I was a little nervous and so I just started doing my interview right then and there and she's like are you in public like I can kind of tell that you're like whispering and
and holding back a little bit.
I'm like, yeah, no, I'm going to nail a salon.
Wow, what a feeling.
And then what happened from there?
How far away was it?
It was so the ball started rolling
and I was doing all my interviews and all that.
And then I was probably like just over a month out
that this first call happened.
And then I went on a backpacking trip in Europe for three weeks.
So I was like,
living your life it was like such a whirlwind summer and fall i um i was like this sounds great
like i would love to be involved but i'm about to be off the grid so like if we want to do this
we kind of have to in there like okay like we'll fast track all your paperwork whatever and then i
found out that i got it when i was in the middle of the mountains of nowhere oh my gosh that's so
awesome and i got back and i had a week to pack so we know that feeling yeah we know that's
Wow. So looking back on the whole experience, like, well, give us one word to describe it, the whole experience. What would you, what would be that word?
What would your word? Maybe just whirlwind. The whole thing was just, yeah.
That's such a good word.
It is. Same for us on the Golden Bachelor. Yeah, that's a great word, actually.
It is.
Anything you wish you could have changed?
I wish I would have had more time to allocate my outfits.
That would have been
I got a girl after my own heart
You looked great
You absolutely did
You did
You looked fabulous
Okay so that's your past
Yeah
Now we're going to dive right in
Because that smile
Wipe it off your face
Or tell us why you're smiling
Tell us about the dating life
When you got off the show
Were your DMs full
We're all kind of people
reaching out to you
Well it was funny
Because my
DMs were full of just
You know
The next couple of
girls reaching out saying like the sweet of stuff but it wasn't until I got I didn't get the
rows that then the men started flooding in the DMs oh are you hearing this is we got none
Chloe because old people don't know the old men don't know how to get on social media
it's true all according to my DMs they do great thanks thanks a lot Chloe well this
interview is over thanks for joining us we're moving on seriously older guys reach out
How old, close spill, how old?
I feel like a lot of them aren't even real
because some of them just seem like, you know,
it's like the sugar daddy bots kind of vibe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So who even knows?
Okay, did you pick one out of these DMs that struck you that,
okay, I'm going to talk to this one.
Yeah, I mean, come on.
Well, so, okay, it's kind of like a past and a present moment.
So there was a guy that I've been friends with
for a few years and when I was out in L.A. last year, he had moved back. He's from L.A.
And we had kind of established, you know, we're not friends anymore. And so he started seeing
Taylor for a few months. The timing wasn't right. We ended things. And then fast forward six,
seven months. He didn't know that I was... I have to interrupt. I'm sorry. Is this before the show you met him?
this was before the show that I met him
yeah okay and then you broke it off
okay and then we broke it off yes
then he saw you on TV
tell me that's what it was
so he he showed up in New York like
right before I was leaving and didn't know
that I was going on the show and I'm like
I don't want to tell him
like I'm doing this thing whatever
and so then eventually
you know through close friends I told
he found out but it was kind of like
sorry I'm leaving
and then
I go on the show and I
get back and shortly after that
he reached out again.
And where are we now?
And?
Now we're in love.
Oh, we're in love it.
Yeah.
Oh, congrats, Chloe.
I'm so happy for you.
Thank you. Yeah. He's the best.
And what did you discover
about him now
recent that you didn't
notice prior?
Or was it something about you that
changed from your experience on the show?
know. I think it's a bit of both. I think that we were both in a it just wasn't the right time. The right time. Yeah. And I think that we both saw this thing in one another. But it just like we both kind of needed a little bit more time and to figure things out. And I feel like once I got off the show, you know, it was like, okay, I got my cake and to eat it too. Like I got this amazing experience. I learned so much. I met amazing people. I feel like I was meant to go on the show.
and you know make this you know experience and yeah and so I just feel like after everything
kind of shifted and clicked and we met back up and just kind of immediately we were like this is
it okay did you have thoughts of him I'm sorry yeah did you have thoughts of him while you were
on the show did you think of him at all comparing sometimes you know how we do yeah I think
him showing up in New York before I left kind of threw me for a loop but again it was such a whirlwind
Wait, did he show up to meet to see you?
Is that why he came to New York?
I mean, I don't know exactly how he would say.
He was there.
That's all she can say.
I think, yeah, he had intentions of trying to rekindle.
And I was like, I'm out.
I'm keeping out.
Okay, tell me the three best characteristics about him.
What makes you love him?
Um, I think he's extremely empathetic in caring.
He has the biggest heart.
I think that he is, he's, he's.
It's so silly and playful and makes me laugh.
And I've never really had that in a partner before.
And I feel like I've always been the biggest personality in the relationship.
And we really kind of go back and forth, which is such a fun day and night.
Oh, my God.
You sound like Susan.
I sound like twins.
It's funny.
And we were just talking earlier on another podcast about you want the same person, you know,
with Alex, did you discover anything about yourself being on the show that you didn't realize
or that you became more comfortable with who you are?
Yeah, I think that, I think just throughout all of my dating experience, you know, you pick up
little things, but I feel like being on the show really, like, solidified what, you know,
what I'm looking for.
And I think I was kind of, you know, it really solidified.
like I'm ready for this and like I'm ready to make a commitment and I think that's why when I left
you know us rekindling it was really like okay I'm actually really ready for this just in all the
conversations I had with people you know yeah how do you decide to get married you know who can
do I knew that was coming Susan's a wedding efficient but Chloe I have a question how how do you guys
balance the I assume he lives in California yes and yeah how does that work is it long distance
or how are you doing this?
Yeah, so the first couple months was long distance.
So it was like every couple weeks we would see each other and be doing like the red eyes,
New York to L.A., which was really brutal.
Yeah.
But then I've come out to L.A. the last couple of winners.
And so I was like, great, I'll just come out again.
And now I'm living in Newport because he's moved down here for his job.
And so I've just been here for like four or five months.
But then I'll go back to New York.
Nice.
Are you still modeling?
I'm still modeling.
So I've agents in both places, and I've just kind of been flying back and forth.
Oh, wow.
So it's very much a crazy schedule, but it's fun and worth it.
And I feel like if anybody's going to have an atypical schedule, I can't go with it.
I'm not kidding.
Look at both of you.
Look at both.
So Susan just recently announced about her boyfriend that she met.
It's a love of her life.
She met him on a vacation that we were on.
in St. Martin. Oh, it's fun. And yeah, and so, but I see both of you, neither one of you can
wipe the smiles off your face. So there's got to be something. But mine has, we have a
language barrier that's a little difficult. But I said, well, last forever because I don't have
no idea what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah, it keeps things interesting.
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Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
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Well, he's certainly trying to get this.
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So I want to know what got you into modeling.
I'm very curious about that.
And your photos are gorgeous.
Yeah, you're just gorgeous.
It's just beautiful.
Thank you so much.
It's funny when I think back on it, I was like 14, 15, and I'm from Kansas City, and I just feel like I'd always been tall and people kind of set it in passing to my parents, like, oh, you should get her into modeling.
How tall are you, Chloe?
How tall?
I'm 5.10.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Um, and I, I was like, tomboy never wanted to, you know, I would never admit that I wanted to do that.
But I just kind of under the radar submitted some random photos that I had to just a local agency and kind of got the ball rolling from there.
But I didn't tell any of my friends.
I was like too embarrassed.
So it wasn't until like I really graduated from college that I formally came out and was like, I've been doing this.
I would leave and, you know, take days off school and go and work.
So it wasn't your ultimate career goal, or was it secretly?
I mean, it's, I wouldn't say that I was like I'd always dreamt of it, but it just, it piqued my interest.
And then it kind of just started working.
And I was like, I feel like I could do this.
And, you know, I feel like when I graduated, I was an art major and I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do.
And I feel like modeling just was this foot in the door to this creative industry.
And it all just kind of fell together.
And what does he do?
He is the director of a summer camp.
Oh.
In California?
In California, yeah.
So he had been doing like tech sales and just was so burn out.
And in the last like year and a halfish, he quit his job.
And he'd worked at this camp in college and reached out and was like, do you guys have any full-time positions?
And yeah, and he's like, he's like, he's a lot.
So are we talking marriage?
I know I'm not supposed to ask that, but here I am.
Yeah.
We are talking marriage.
He's the one.
He's the one now.
Oh, my God.
I love that.
So, healthy for you.
I'll come to Newport.
Bachelor nation.
Another first here.
Chloe is,
it sounds like we're going to be engaged.
Golden hour.
Wow.
I mean.
It was crazy to say.
So do you have any advice for girls, women, young women,
that want to get into the modeling?
industry? Yeah, I think that really the best place to start is just taking some basic
digitals, like tank top jeans against a white wall, front side back, and just start sending
those out to agencies. And I would just start collaborating with photographers.
Instagram is like the... So different now.
LinkedIn.
But she's got such a good point because most people put too much makeup and all these
outfits they want to see natural bone structure your body yeah i think i think instagram has created
i mean it's a double-edged sword right but it's created this working portfolio for creatives and
models and stuff so i think showcasing your personality and use instagram as your portfolio and
i think a lot of clients really do look at that and agents and stuff and they want to see that
you're more than just a pretty face that you have dynamic yes so wait i have a question
You know, Susan and I are dinosaurs, but when modeling, when we were coming up in the modeling world,
it was very much eating disorders and mental and physical issues surrounding modeling.
Is that still necessarily the way?
Is that still an issue?
I mean, I think that, yes, I mean, it definitely is in certain corners.
I think especially this new kind of phase of.
phase that we've entered with
I feel like people are saying we're bringing back 90s skinny
and the ozimic stuff and all that
I but personally I've
that's not been my experience I've been
it's been nothing but positive and I feel like people
have celebrated my body rather than telling me to change it
and that's such a difference I mean
national brands you know gap all these national brands now
use full figure they call them you know
whatever you want to call it
It just, it's normal life.
And I like seeing that modeling now sort of mirrors what real life is.
Yeah, definitely.
When I first started, it was very much like straight size and plus size.
And that was, you know, over 10 years ago.
And now things have really opened up that it's like curve.
And that's really just anything that's a size six and up.
Which is crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is wild.
It's called curve?
Yeah.
That's curve.
So hardly ever am I necessary.
referred to as plus
size, but really what, like the
boards and stuff that I'm on with my
with my
agencies and stuff, it's like the curve board, but that's
inclusive of plus size
and these kind of mid-sized
bodies. Yeah.
It just is interesting to me
that modeling used to be,
you know, you lived on lettuce
and it didn't approximate
the real-time women.
So I'm glad to see that modeling
has somewhat changed
and you look on a magazine
and you see yourself
you don't see something that you know
something you can relate to
yeah that you can relate to
yeah but I think too though
that it really is just about
taking care of yourself like there have been points
in my life like when I first graduated from college
I was not treating my body the best that I could have
you know and I think that was reflected
in like the way that I looked and just my skin
But now it's like I really haven't changed in size, but I feel better, I look better, you know, I've taken care of myself eating right, working out.
And so I don't think it's necessarily like a lack of, you know, fitness or start, well, you know, whatever.
I think it's just people who are treating themselves right and taking care of themselves.
So do you feel like since you have an agency over in California, are you getting a lot of work there that you could shift and or do you always go back to New York?
always feel like you have more work
in New York? Yeah, it's
interesting. It's a night and day.
It is. Yeah, I'm trying to
kind of figure out the L.A. market.
I think it definitely is different.
I'm going back to New York a lot.
Like, New York is still my bread and butter.
Yes.
But I'm hoping that L.A.
will be a little bit more consistent. I would like
to do some more acting maybe.
So that could be a
adventure that, yeah,
LA provides, but
yeah, it's different. I think it just takes time.
Well, you are absolutely, I mean, you're stunning and you're, truly, you're glowing.
Wait, I have a question, Kathy, I have to ask. Do you like to cook?
I do like to cook. I think it's much more fun cooking for someone now that I have someone to cook for.
You know what? I'll move there and you can cook for me because Alex and I were talking, I don't cook. I don't understand it. It's Greek to me.
It's totally.
Well, I'm Italian, and so I have a bunch of big, big family that loves to cook.
Sounds like Susan.
Yes, we're so much alike there.
And we're both in love.
Yes.
Okay.
Listen, I can just leave now, go out the door.
You two can finish up here, okay?
Have fun with each other.
But before I leave, we're going to move into our advice portion of the episode.
And Chloe, we're just going to kick things off of the question of the day, and then we'd like your thoughts on it.
Are you game?
Okay.
Okay. Yeah, I'm gay.
All right. Do you feel like you've found your own personal style when it comes to clothes?
And what advice do you have to young girls that are trying to figure out how they want to dress and finding what they feel confident in?
Yeah, I think I have. I think I'm a very, like, classic dresser, but I like to flare it up with the little accessories that are more trendy and things.
So I think it's like finding really solid pieces that are unique,
like really classic things with an interesting shape.
And I think it's just about knowing your body and what suits you.
Like if you have a short waist, what kind of silhouettes work on you
or if you're hourglass shape.
So it's trying on a lot of things and knowing what you feel good in.
Yeah, because not every friend is going to work.
Like I have big boobs and a lot of things don't work for me.
It's funny you say that when a years ago,
Susan knows, and you're about to know, I hate to shop, clothes shopping, I hate it.
But Alex and I have a few things in common here.
But I had a dresser.
This was years ago, a stylist come in and go through my closet.
And after she finished laughing, looking at what was in my closet, she said, Kathy, you're always dressed to your best attribute.
And my best attribute has always been.
I have very long legs.
So she said when big, full.
pants come in as they are now or were 10 minutes ago. She said, don't do that. Wear the slacks
that emphasize your legs. Stick to the styles. What compliments you. Totally. I've never forgotten
that. Yeah. Yeah. I think like if you find those silhouettes that work for you and then
accessorize with the trendy things, you know, and you don't need to splurge on the trendy things.
Like give an example. What are the trendy things? Give me some examples. I think like sunglasses.
or jewelry or, you know, the way you wear belts or I feel like scarves are coming back and
having a moment, you know, or maybe fun shoes are easier and a cheaper way to kind of come and
come out. I feel like change an outfit. Okay. Well, if this gig doesn't work out for you,
Chloe, would you come and dress me, please? I would, honestly, I would love to you. That's my favorite
thing to do. Oh, God. I know. I'd do it. Tell your boyfriend to move over. I'm moving in.
Kathy's closet
and what I saw
was more conservative
Kathy
and now that she's
coming out
if you will
in the world
and she's
dressing a little
more
not just the classic
look
but a little
more modern
if you will
right
yeah
I mean it's fun
to play
I think it's fun
to try new
things
I look back
at things
that I have been
wearing
and also I think
living in
New York
allowed me
to really
anything
anything goes
in New York
and it's
interesting
even being
California right now. I'm definitely
a little less adventurous, but I'm trying
to fight that. Just because I feel
like... Be you. Absolutely.
Yeah, New York, you can wear a ball gown to the
grocery store and nobody would bat an eye.
And you could wear pajamas
to the Mets and nobody's going to bat an eye.
Exactly. Yeah, people would call it
cheek. But I think
it's fun to be adventurous
even if I think it taught me
well in New York and I'm trying to bring
that into my...
This is good. This is good. This is good.
You seem like you were made for this career.
Yeah.
Really.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
Appreciate that.
And where were you born and raised?
I'm from Mission Hills.
You are from Mission Hills, Kansas.
Oh, wow.
How did you?
Is that near Chonk?
Is that not near Chalk?
No, he's Wichita, Kansas.
Because I do my homework.
I research you.
My sister's husband grew up in Mission Hills.
Oh, really?
You don't want to know him.
You don't want to know.
Never mind.
Sorry, I brought it up.
Yeah, I didn't, nobody knows what Mission Hills is.
but, so I just say Kansas City, but that was good work.
There you go.
There you go.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Well, wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now hold up, isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
I never envisioned being with a woman.
I'll just be honest.
I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts
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I didn't even know you've been a pastor for over 10 years.
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All right. Now we're going to go into our fan questions, and we want you to be a part of this.
We give them advice. So we're going to ask you first for your opinion or your advice for these
people that wrote in, okay?
Sure.
So this one says anonymous.
Hi, ladies.
I'm so frustrated and could really use your help.
I love my best friend so much, but her insecurities are really starting to become too much for me.
She's constantly saying negative things about her appearance, and it's honestly getting to the point where it's triggering me.
To give you an idea of the kinds of things she would say, she never goes out to dinner with me and my friends,
because she doesn't want to eat before we go out so she doesn't bloat.
I really don't want to abandon her, but I need to protect my brain.
I work really hard to not to be negative towards myself,
and her thoughts constantly creep into my head.
How do I address this with her?
She always says these things in a joking manner,
so I really don't want her to brush me off,
But you know what I'm saying.
Thanks, ladies.
I'm confused.
Okay.
I get it.
No, I get it.
Okay.
So what do you think?
It's that negative stuff.
Yeah, I think I've definitely been in a few friendships like this.
And I mean, I think the key to life is you have to love yourself before you can love anybody else.
Absolutely.
That's just, but you can't force that on somebody.
You can't teach that to somebody.
You can just encourage them and kind of hope that they, you know, run with it.
I think that as hard as it is to be honest, I'd be honest.
I just say, hey, don't, you know, when you're so negative like this, it's, it infects everybody.
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, yeah.
So negativity, I mean, if that's what this is about, oh, absolutely.
Yeah, she's putting herself down.
She won't eat because her belly, mine does too, every time.
And I try to drink all this water.
By nighttime, I'm like this big.
It is what it is.
Yeah.
I agree.
I agree with all that.
So for the anonymous, what do you say?
She does?
I think she say something.
I think sometimes it feels blunt.
But I think if you just handle it with care and maybe like lead with example and just say,
hey, when I'm feeling this way, I do X, Y, and Z.
And, you know, I hate seeing you be so hard on yourself.
But it's, I've got to say, it's a little hard to be around.
It's like affecting me too.
And I don't want this to affect our friendship, but, you know, you're beautiful inside
it out.
Right.
I don't want to do negativity because I feel.
It's not that deep.
Having a bloated belly, it's not that deep.
Right.
And also, if you keep putting this negative out to the universe, more negative is going to
come your way.
Yeah.
And I think you're going to keep compounding this.
Yeah, you are your thoughts, you know.
To me, I'm making light of this because.
I mean, I get down on myself sometimes, you know.
We all do.
We all do.
And I look to my friends to build me up and support me.
But I also agree with you, Susan, like I have, we've talked about this.
I become such a more positive person.
Yeah.
Since I went on the show.
It just.
Knowing me, Kat.
That's it.
That was it.
Susan.
Me and you just did it.
But I think that I like to be around positive people.
I don't like to be uplifting.
It's uplifting.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think being on the show, too, is very illuminating because it's like you see a different side of the world and this industry and stuff.
And I think that it made me so, I feel so blessed because I think that just naturally, I just things kind of roll off my back that it doesn't necessarily for other people.
And it gave me a lot more empathy.
But I think that you really just, especially being in the spotlight or something, you really just have to rise above it and be like, you know what?
I don't care. But don't you think, I want to know, we both want to know what three women, you know, who are your closest friends from the show. And we know that one of them is Alex. But you better say Alex. Yeah, you got to say Alex. But I'm also curious what it's like at your age to be in a confined area like the mansion and all the traveling with women. Because I'm guessing that's not common. It certainly wasn't common at our age.
yeah you know honestly being like being at the mansion and stuff that was like the least anxious like
i was so relaxed like you know they wake you up and they put you to bed and there's a grocery
list right in front of you i was like this is great i'm like i'm going to sit by the pool and then
i got to be somewhere someone's going to tell me where to be like just awesome i loved it i feel like
it was like summer camp meets sorority house that's old ours was uh summer camp meets 55 and over
So what are the women?
Who are they?
Yeah, definitely,
definitely Alex and me really hit it off.
And it's nice that we're both locals.
So we've gotten to hang out a bunch.
And I've kept up at a time with Pisa and Natalie, too.
I think we all really resonated with one another.
That's nice.
Yeah.
That's cool.
And what did you learn about yourself?
Anything?
I think I learned kind of what I was saying earlier.
I feel like my empathy grew because I was like, wow, they're just, because you pick, you take
25 of the biggest personalities, they're all different, and then you put us all in one room,
and then it's a stressful environment where it's every, you know, it's like competitive, but it's
personal. And so I think my empathy just really grew during this experience. You felt bad for people.
Not even that I felt bad, but I was just like, understanding. Yeah, we're just, we're having
similar, like, if not the exact same experiences, but it's affecting you way different than it's
affecting me. And I'm like, your feelings are just as valid and let me sit with you and try and
understand. Exactly. You know, were you attracted to Grant or did you know pretty early he wasn't
your guy? I think just from looks basis, of course. Yeah, he's a great looking guy. But I think,
you know, early on in dating, whether there's this chemistry or not, I think that it was, you
Yeah, I think, you know, when we broke up or whatever, I think it was mutual.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was same for us with Gary.
You get in the friend zone, like, you're cool.
And it's all good.
It's still good.
It's still fun.
I have nothing bad to say about him.
He seems like a great guy.
I'm happy.
He's happy.
Were you surprised at his final choice between the two, or did you have a feeling?
I mean, yeah, I think it was a toss-up just because of the initial
sparks that we saw like flying and stuff but I think that him and
Juliana are so compatible with one another like I just think that they you know
speak the same language and are just like they're the same energy so it makes so
much sense to me. Yeah they're adorable they're adored I want to go eat pizza with
them totally totally yeah wow okay so you've got we've got to know you a little
better now we want to open up to you like do any questions for us I love this question
Yeah. I mean, I, so my mom, when she found out that I was doing this, did her, like any good mom, did her deep dive in. And she was like, I don't know how I'm going to feel seeing women my age doing this, but her. And then she fell in love with you guys. She loved it so much. But she's like, I just can't. And I thought the same thing. I'm like, what made you guys want to go on the show? I mean, me, I'm like, I had nothing, nothing to lose. That's how I felt too. We were singing.
goal and yeah it was an opportunity yeah it was to me it was you know it'd be the same thing if
if i get to go on paradise it's it's an adventure it's it i am a hopeful romantic i really
i love it i am i hope that you can meet a guy anywhere right so yeah but for me it was an
adventure to go on on golden bachelor and we were looking for love right we didn't know
what i didn't find on i haven't found it on dating apps i haven't found it all
So why not on national TV?
And I say the same thing.
If I'm lucky enough to go to paradise, it'd be the same thing.
You know, hope springs eternal.
So I think for Susan and me, particularly, we were very much ourselves.
And we didn't worry about what people were going to think because we just were there to be us.
Well, I think watching it too, you can tell it just, it feels a lot more authentic and natural because you guys have lived so much more life and have these true, you know, stories.
and experiences and you're just in a really honest point in your life.
You're open and ready.
Unapologetically, authentically, I got to say, I don't think I ever was not me.
You know, people said that, oh, you hit 40 and you just become yourself.
You don't care.
I'm like, you know, I think I was always this way.
I've been the same, yeah.
I love it.
We have a lot more wisdom now.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I think you guys were made for it too.
I love that you've ended up here.
Yeah, we have a good time.
I would also say the older you get, or at least the older, I've gotten so much of what you worry about, think about.
It's minutia, you know.
Yeah. Somebody wrote a book once a long time ago.
Everything I needed to know I learned in kindergarten.
Like, you know, that's kind of it.
Like the rest of it just doesn't matter, you know.
Yeah.
People their age going on the show, they're looking at a marriage and a future in babies, a family.
It's a whole different picture for us, you know.
We're looking at somebody to do the last chapter with, to enjoy.
Someone to travel with, someone to have fun with.
In my case, someone who wants to cook for me.
True.
You need an Italian, Kathy.
Or a Frenchman.
My man can cook.
Susan's Italian and her French boyfriend cooks.
It's just ridiculous.
We love having you.
And I'm so glad you have.
You have found your person.
I'm so happy.
We want to come to the wedding.
No, I want to perform the wedding.
Oh, sorry, of course.
Well, he's got, he's going to put a ruin on at first.
Okay, well, tell the call us.
Give me his name and then we'll talk.
We have a jeweler.
Yeah.
I can make these things happen.
I can do it.
I'll be very nice.
I'll only twist his arm a little bit.
It won't hurt him too much.
I hope you keep glowing with that beautiful, beautiful smile.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
Thank you guys for having me.
Absolutely.
That does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour.
Thank you to our beautiful, lovely guest, Chloe.
Thank you for joining us and sharing all your experience and your love.
I love it.
Thank you.
It has been great having you.
You shine, you glow.
You exhum happiness.
You just exude happiness.
It's great to see.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, two twins over there.
Thank you all out there for joining us.
We hope you enjoyed this episode.
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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem.
But I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That seems inappropriate.
Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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And on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.
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Many of them are in fear of their political lives.
We continue to say to them,
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And there's life after Congress.
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