Bachelor Happy Hour - Exclusive: Clare and Dale Interview

Episode Date: November 6, 2020

In their exclusive podcast interview, newly engaged couple Clare Crawley and Dale Moss sit down for an extended discussion about finding love on the show, wedding plans, and having babies. Clare and Dale open up about when they knew the other person was “the one,” and how they decided not to continue with the show. Plus, Clare reveals what her mother said to Dale when she met him for the first time. And after everything that went down, Dale reveals whether he made it into the infamous guys' group chat! "Bachelor Happy Hour" has exclusive interviews each and every week. Watch "The Bachelorette" on ABC and listen to "Bachelor Happy Hour" the next morning. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Because as we know, you guys, you guys aren't stupid and we're not going to take advantage of that. You know that sometimes we record these episodes in advance. And this is the moment. And it is election day. So Becca and I are drinking. So if things get a little loose, we apologize. But we just want to set the tone of what this podcast is. So we apologize in advance.

If we seem a little distracted, we are, but we're not because we're obviously really, really excited about what it is that we're covering today. So why you ask, are we so excited? Why you ask, may there be an election day? And we are still excited to talk on this podcast. It is because we are going to get to talk, we are going to get to talk to maybe the most talked about Bachelorette, the most talked about couple we've ever had in Bachelor Nation. And because there are so many questions that we have, we're going to skip a recap.

Why recap this at this point? We want to get down to the nitty gritty. We want to understand certain things and we want to ask questions. So we're going to sit down with the newly engaged couple, Claire and Dell, Claire and Dale, for all the people who are so upset at the way that I say his name. I apologize for my southern accent. Sometimes I say Dell, but you know who it is that I'm talking about. So I've given you a pronunciation for both of my audiences, some who don't mind how I say it, some who do. But Becca, how are you feeling about all this?

Because there's so much to get into. Rachel, I'm feeling so many different emotions right now. I mean, to your earlier point, yes, it is elections night. I have not drank in a month. So I'm treating myself tonight because I feel like I'm going to need it. And while tensions are high there, I'm so excited that we can still record today and have like this nice, happy outlet to just have a nice chat with, as you said, the newly engaged couple. And it sounds crazy to say this because it was probably the very,

the quickest engagement this show is this franchise has ever seen. So I'm so excited to have them on and talk about their special engagement and have the opportunity to talk to them just hours after this news broke. We are the very first podcast for the first people to have them on to talk to them to pick their brains. So, you know, we're giving you guys the exclusive. So it feels like Christmas came early and we usually obviously have to wait much longer, but we have them on. So what a gift it is to have them on, to be able to have them dish, give us all the dirty details, but also like just really embrace the love that we've seen in this short amount of time. So I can't wait to have them on to chat with them and to finally cheers to them. So let's get it going.

Exactly. Yeah, we're not going to even do like all the talk and stuff before. I think you guys know, we talked to Claire twice on this podcast already. And dare I say it, three times is charm. Because the third time, we get the happy couple together. And if you followed Claire's journey, even specifically just with this podcast, you know exactly what Claire is about who she is and what she wants and what she was going after. And she didn't hold that back at all, whether the viewers liked it or not. Claire followed her heart.

She followed her own path. And she broke the rules. And we're here to say, we freaking loved every single bit of it, that she did what was best for Claire. Claire. And at the end of the day, she can say that she's happy. And we know that you guys have watched a couple of journeys this last year. And maybe things didn't turn out the traditional way. And even with Claire, things haven't been traditional in the way they panned out, but you got the traditional happy ending. And we are going to ask them all the questions about how they're doing, where they stand, and how things came about.

way they did. And what's to come? And what's to come? The best part is what's to come for these two. And so, Rachel, we obviously have to talk to them about what's to come because our listeners, you obviously DM us, you comment on our photos all the time. We hear you, we see you. We're going to incorporate a lot of those questions and answers today. So I know you guys don't want to just keep listening to Rach and I speak. So we're going to just bring them on right away. Skip the recap and get it straight from the horse's mouth. Yeah, let's go. Like, like, what do they say? What does the young kids say? Let's do this straight.

Okay. Wait, what? I did I sit over that. Okay. What is it then? Let's do the damn thing? Is that what you do that? Listen, let's get straight to this.

Whether it's let's do the damn thing or as the kids say, let's do this straight, no chaser. You guys, let's bring on Claire and Dale. All right, let's get into it. Becca, Claire. Dale. Are you ready? I just have to tell you, though, I would not have this any other way than to start off our engagement with you guys having our very first interview. I began with you guys and now we're ending with you guys as our first interview. So like this is making me so happy.

Full circle. Now being two winds in. I might start crying. wait welcome welcome to the we have to start this before we even do anything Rachel if you will raise your glass with me to the happy couple because you guys are finally official we are engaged we are in love we are happy congrats to you guys

thank you you so much you guys know it's so weird having to like it's almost like a third dimension of having to be on the down low and to be secretive and everything. And then to finally be out, it's like, oh, thank goodness. We can have normal life can begin. Do you feel like you can finally breathe now? Almost. Yeah. We're almost there. But it's honestly been, we've been living our lives in this entire time already. So I think if anything, we've just been anxious to be able to share our love with everybody.

But we're really blessed with how this turned out. I mean, I think, I think, it's, I think. It's creeping into, like, today we went house shopping here in Sacramento. We've been searching. We've been searching. So, like, it's just, it's becoming more and more regular life for us, which is good. I mean, Brian and I aren't even house shopping. You guys, I love this. And so you have already, without even knowing, kind of dispelled one of the rumors that are out there.

Because there's a rumor out there that you guys are already married. But you're still saying engagement and you're calling each other. fiancée. Let's not even because honestly, there are so many rumors out there since day one. So many.

That, I mean, he's my fiance. Right. You're still together. And that's what's important. And that's what matters. And if you guys, if you're listening to this, you also should be watching this because they are glowing. They look

so happy. These are two gorgeous, beautiful people. It's slightly annoying, right, Becca? Like, look at them. I'm low-key, a little bit jealous. Like, I miss having that partnership, but I'm so incredibly happy for you guys. Thank you so much. It gets just so much better once the cameras

are out, and it can just be real life, you too, like, truly getting to know each other in your daily lives. That's a thousand times more meaningful. And so I hope, like, Rachel, like with the rumors like that they're married, it's like, enjoy these days, like enjoy being able to call each other your fiance and just truly soak it in because it goes by so quickly. I'm sure. It really does.

I think so. But it's, I don't know. It's unreal. It's still like, oh my God, he's my fiance. I love saying it still.

But I think this is definitely the time where we know this is the best time. We get to just be a house and really share that. So just from the beginning, though, it's not uncomfortable for us to go looking at houses. Like we're in this to build a future and build a life. So that's what we're doing. That's what we're doing.

Everybody always, like, the people who do know about us, you know, are like, is he, when they ask me about him, they're like, is he, I think it's a fear. Like, you go in and you see one person on camera and then you get off camera and you're like, I think it's that same person. And I've always told people he's not the same person that you see on camera. He's even better and even more of everything that I wanted, even in the little, little things day to day. I'm just like, I don't for one second, I have a doubt in my brain. Like, I'm so glad it's him. That's how it should be. I would agree with you. Same thing with Brian.

I felt like I remember thinking you're engaged and you're like, oh shit, I'm engaged. And then you spend those next few hours and you're like, oh my gosh, this is even better than I thought. I knew I trusted my gut and my heart and I made the right decision and it's so it's so great to hear that that's exactly how you feel and what I liked about this episode with the two of you is I felt like like Claire people have been ridiculously hard on you and and what I've I'm going to try to go on a soapbox but because you know I get real defensive over you but what I what I've also noticed is that people these days are so comfortable being mean and nasty and they thrive off that and they feed on that and it's really disgusting to watch and see it happen and in this episode where we see you

we finally understand the meaning behind the words congratulations you've blown up the bachelorette we see what happens with you in dell we see you leave them in we see you guys get engaged and we see you go off to live happily ever after. I think what was so key is that first date, the first one-on-one that the two of you have with one another and the way you guys connect and the things you have in common that you didn't even realize. And so it solidifies that feeling that you felt with one another because you also have so many other things in common. So I just, we want to break all of this down. But I hope that people watching it are like, okay you know what I was wrong and I jumped the gun and what they were feeling they trusted it

and they took a risk and it has been extremely rewarding for them and I really hope people change their tune not that you have to please everyone not that this is what it's about but that people will have a little bit more of an understanding as to why you two fell so quickly for one another and why it's real and it's right so let's get into it let's get into it and I'm really like Ask me the tough stuff, the hard stuff. Any questions you guys have, I'm here for it because I agree wholeheartedly, Rachel, with what you're saying.

This has been, like, I've been a part of the franchise for almost seven years. And still, like, as thick of skin, like, as anybody can have with all the hate that's going on, with all the negativity that's spoken about this, like, I really, I get that I am not. for everybody. I get that everybody might not do what I did or agree with what I'm doing, but at the end of the day, this is all for love. And to be sitting here just feeling that feeling of love at first sight. Granted, it's not the norm. It's not what people are expecting or what people are used to, but how can you predict something like that? There's no way to predict it. And I think

honoring yourself, honoring your truth, I don't comprehend with all the negative. like how people can take that any other way than something that's beautiful to me. And even, I don't know, I try to rationalize all the hate to in my brain. I'm like, I know that it's a different type of year. It's COVID. It's the elections. Like there's a lot of high stress things going on

and people need this outlet, I guess. And we're an easy target, this relationship to easily point fingers and judge. It's easy to just spew your hate on something from the inside to get it out but I think I really do hope that people take a step back when they see this and watch it to know that this

is just stemming out of pure love. Yeah. And I mean whatever happened to get us to this point, even though a lot of this has been you know overwhelming at times just from just even

having to see and deal with some of the things like Claire just like on the show has handled everything with such class and elegance but like whatever happened it's got us together here right now and we committed from the beginning and we both felt it you could see it from episode one and then after uh this last one you know it's undeniable so whatever whatever had to happen so we could be here together um it's all worth it yeah i will say clara you just said you try to rationalize that hate and like how mean people

can be you're never going to be able to like that's like blows my it's it's you're it's unfathomable and it's so sad that people think this way because like your relationship is truly stemming from the most pure place like you guys are just simply two people that fell in love and everyone's journey looks different some people's it's sped up and that's okay and some takes a little bit longer but at the end of the day like truly all that matters is that you two have each other and have each other's backs and that support system and rachel and i say this all the time bachelor nation like our minds are fleeting something else is going to happen in one week to take their minds off of you, too.

And so I truly hope that people just back off and let you be, like, in love, be this happy couple because you guys deserve that. But, Dale, one thing that you said was just the connection that you guys have. So I want to take it back tonight one, because obviously we saw you step out of that limo. And it was like done so for Claire. She said, like, I think I just met my husband. So what was it? No pressure at all.

But, Dale, for you, like, what was it instantly that drew you into Claire? I honestly just felt safe and secure. And I just trusted her. I couldn't even put my finger on it right away. But I just, I knew that she, you know, she had me. I just felt unbelievably comfortable, just sharing and opening up to her. And I think that's the biggest thing that's difficult in any relationship or any time is just putting yourself out. there but I I never ever once questioned it and I remember before I got there I was riding with

my dad and I was like you think she's gonna like me and he's like you know when your souls when your souls connect there's there's nothing that will keep you apart if it's meant to happen and that's exactly what happened on the first night it was powerful it was amazing I think that's what was so powerful about the one-on-one day that you had and you're sharing the story about your parents and their own love. And then to see what was happening in front of us with the love that the two of you have with one another, it was like, okay, you guys, like, this is serendipitous. Like, if you don't believe in that word, you got to believe in it now because it's all

starting to make sense. And I know that we constantly see the other men who don't get it or maybe outsiders from Bastor Nation who don't get it. But what's so important is that you guys get it. And you're still sitting in front of us today. as a strong united couple. One of the things, and I understand this on the personal level, is being in an interracial relationship.

Which I'm so happy to see it happen again, I say. I, do you guys, I know, right? Yeah, black, white, native, Mexican, everything. Mexican, come on, black Colombian, listen, we are the world, we all have children Rachel loves to break out and make a better Can we all get our ladders here?

Everybody loves everybody. It was the moment I couldn't I couldn't let it pass but there is so much and this is the question that I ask everyone pretty much who comes through but like 2020 is such a crazy time and yeah full disclosure

as we're doing this podcast the election it's election day And it's happening, it's going on right now. And we've seen a pandemic and we've seen sadness and sickness and suffering. But then we've also seen so much discord when it comes to race and socially and culturally. With you guys, have you had those important conversations about how you're going to be a united front and face the world as an interracial couple and build a future for the children that you're going to bring into this world? Which are going to be so cute, by the way. Oh, tell me about it.

Girl, tell me about it. I want to be like first babysitter called. Oh, of course. I say, sign her up. Angie Beckett. Honestly, this has come up naturally within just our conversations. I think the biggest thing is we know that we can come to each other for anything. There's no judgment.

There's no worry. And that's what's so important about having a relationship and building this. And we both leaned on each other for advice and perspective in some of these situations. Like right when we left, like I was getting, you know, emails about race and being with a white or a mixed woman, you know, where people don't even really understand all the background. There's things that have come up where Claire has just come directly and asked me, like, what's the best way I should approach this are what is respectful. So I think that's... But honestly, even things that... It's not to cut you off.

No, do you think. But even things that I have had questions about where I'm like, is that inappropriate? Because now that it's becoming to the forefront, which I am so thankful and I'm so happy for, the awareness of, what's the word I'm looking for? Like, what's appropriate, what's not appropriate, and even things that I was never even aware of, what was it? It was a question about. I mean, I think just. For example, for example, Rachel, like when you were talking about like a black woman, in a bikini, you know, tach in a bikini.

Things like that where I was like, tell me about, like I, we talk to each other about everything and he makes it so comfortable that I'm like, let me know. I want to know because the truth is our babies are going to be mixed and they're going to have to face those kind of things and they're going to have those questions. Hopefully not it'll, you know, we'll have so much progression and by the time our little babies are grown up, but it's like he just makes it so comfortable that we can talk about this and that it's not an uncomfortable kind of like elephant in the room. And it should never, it should never be that way.

And just with anybody and making sure that people, you know, it's okay if you make a mistake or say the wrong thing from time to time. But like the biggest thing is just feeling secure enough to know that you can learn from it or you have resources. And I mean, I'm from a biracial family. My mom's side disowned her because she married a black man. You know, I grew up in an all white community where, I couldn't stay at my friend's houses

when I was a kid. We had to really fight for respect and to make our place in the community in which I grew up. So this is something that I've been around since the time I was a little kid but we know that we'll deal with some of these things but it hasn't been a worry

or anything like that. We just get through everything together just like we would in any setting. And talking about the questions, I think it's not something people should ever shy away from it. It's It provokes conversation and learning and more knowledge, you know, and it's something that, to me, is beautiful and shouldn't be backed away from and shouldn't be not talked about. Yeah. It's not a negative thing to talk about interracial relationships or tiptoeing around.

Like, that's not, it's not a negative thing. Like, we're proud of who we are, what we are. Like, to me, to me, that's what makes him beautiful. Like, I mean, I don't know. I just don't make you start seeing. and again. You guys keep giving me the chills.

I don't know. It's something that's different. I think it transcends. Like love to me just transcends everything. It does. It does. And I don't know. I think it's one of those things that just,

like I said, is just beautiful to me because it shows that it's coming from here. And the electricity that we had night one, I know you can see it in my face. and in my nerves and I got so shy but like you can't replace that and it doesn't even matter the color of anybody's skin

like it's that irreplaceable that you cannot know it I knew it I knew it you guys I love that I love that so I didn't see that obviously I didn't know that happened you know I never knew that happened in that way and when I saw that I was

goosebumps I was like damn like I really felt I really felt exactly what you were feeling I felt that in every sense so that was that was beautiful to see I got lucky we got we got to that

to that we are the world seriously where I need to turn off all my lens right now we just need to dim everything have a moment for those of you who cannot see Dale just picked up the dog and you know we're all

we're all kumbai yying over here with a we are the world moment I'm telling you guys right now this is going to be my mom's favorite podcast that she's ever listened to because she's like she's going to say she feels the love with everyone I feel it

that's what I think that you guys is that when you're watching a television show like the batch threat there's so many awesome great but dramatic and crazy and kind of like different parts of the episodes but you're seeing as far with us you're seeing eight hours 10 hours of 250 hours that were that we were all worth taking part in and so you see a blipid of what of what the real picture is and behind it all it's like yeah there was a lot of hard things that were going on on a lot of dramatic things but at the end of it it's like

Like, this is why I went there. This is what everything I was looking for. And I don't know, man. I just, I'm so thankful. And it's speaking the same language. It's love. It's love. You can't.

There's nothing in all my 39 years of life. I don't want to even talk about my age anymore. But it's a once in a lifetime thing where you just are like, you know, takes your breath away. Yeah. Well, Claire, we've obviously had you on the podcast and I've chatted with you prior to you starting your season. But Dale, obviously, this is your first time ever being on the show.

We haven't had a chance to pick your brain yet. But, I mean, I'm curious. I think all of our listeners are curious. Like, you coming on to the bachelor's at, like, what did you expect in your mind? Like, what did you think the potential outcome would be? Like, did you, like, in your wildest dreams, could you fathom sitting down now, like, what, four weeks later being engaged, getting down on one knee with Claire? and like now house hunting in Sacramento? Yeah, I mean, I honestly, I could have never planned it to go this way.

But when I decided to go on the show, a big thing was to give up control for once in my life and just be fully vested, be fully present. And when I saw that Claire was going to be the Bachelorette, like that's exactly what made me comfortable enough to do it because I knew that even just from her interviews, And the little bit that I saw, I felt her excitement, but that I could truly trust her. And I was willing to, I don't know, just say, like, screw it. I'll, you know, be fully present, give up all control.

And it's something that was outside of the box. But I was just in it with the open heart. And I think even mentally preparing for all those months, I was preparing for her. You know, I was visualizing and thinking what this woman would be like, so when I stepped out of the limo on night one, like my mind and heart was dead set and focused on being with her at the end of it. You know, I wasn't going in it to try to figure it out. I was going to give everything I had and she was going to feel me in my heart and

my presence. But I was giving everything in a way as if I was going to be there at the end. And this was just the beginning, but we were going to have a life together. So no, I couldn't have predicted it, but I went into it in a place where I trusted it enough, where I was going to put my heart and soul into it and just open up and be me. That's how you have to be. When did you know you had it in the bag? Like, when did you know that you're like, it's being clear? Honestly, so.

Good question, because I want to know that, too. I mean, could I have been more obvious though? I was terrible. I was so nervous. Del, down. I was so nervous on the first night. But after I got the first impression rose, There was a little bit of time where we were just walking and joking around that you didn't see.

Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. I was walking in slow motion. Okay, they're like, what? But after that night, I was like, Dan, like, I don't know what happened, but that shit shook me to the core. And, oh, I said, I swear, it's okay. It's fine. We let it fly.

And so the next time I met, I saw Claire, I saw Claire, which was with our group date, I was like we had a little bit of alone time and we were just speaking the same language. And after that time, that connection and that spark was there, but it was even more intense with, I would say, like surety with how we were both feeling. And after that moment, I was just like, there's no way she's just saying this to say it. like she's she's got to be feeling exactly what I'm feeling and you know and I've never had had those feelings or something happened that fast and I was just like there's no way that it's not me and she didn't come out and flat out say that but we had it was weird and I've I've

told people this before like I had so many extensive which you guys didn't see but really long great conversations with the other guys and where we're getting to know each other and talking about a lot of different things, but when I was around Dale, it was like by night two, or even night one, I think we had inside jokes. We were like, pinkie problems, same thing. It was like we knew each other for so long. Yeah, and it was hard. Are you going to let go on my pinky? 30 minutes. But we had these inside jokes or these things where the serendipity things where it was literally in every conversation that we would go, oh my gosh, no, me too, me too. Oh, you felt me too. And then I would go, I would go.

another conversation with a different guy and it would be like so you're you know you don't want to move out of your state and okay and where did you grow up and it was that very surface level where you're trying to get to know somebody with him it just was like we felt like we just knew each other actually the icing on the cake though like hands down um was a pineapple oh I know you guys oh my god so we had on a group date um the one that you know episode three may have had all the drama it's all good so Claire has a tattoo right here that says password

and we're in the El Presente suite and I'm asking her I go what's the tattoo mean and she talks about it was like a sign for her and a friend you know when she was getting a little bit of anxiety they would have a password to basically say

get me out of here help me and then so she told me the story and then I go oh pineapple and she goes what? Who told you? Who told you? I guessed the password of her, like, the password was Pineapple that her and her friend used to have as like a safety word to like save me or I'm like spinning out. And I guessed it. And we like freaking out. That was the moment. I mean like in my interview that night I got my phone. Pineapple. Called my best friend on camera and I was like what's our what was

the original password? And she was like pineapple why? And I was like, I'm, you know it. I'm hearing this man. He's moving into the president's suite with me. I mean, honestly, Becca, what would you have said? I would have said care bear. What would you have said? You know what I mean? Like, what was the neighborhood?

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. This is what I'm saying. Where it was like, okay, this is getting weird. Yeah, no, it's like, it's getting right. That's what we'll call it. And I love these behind the scenes stories because it, people, we've said this before. we talk about this on the show, but you film for weeks, people get two hours, not even two

hours because you got to add in commercial break. So it's really like an hour 26. So you don't understand all the background. And that's what these moments are so special. And that's why I love podcasting because we get to understand how you guys, even if we don't, but fully understand because we weren't there. We're not the two of you. But a little bit better as to why you guys connected so quickly. So that being said, I'm going to take a bit of a turn. Let's do it. This is the compliment.

Dale, this is the compliment for those people who make fun of the way I say it. This is the compliment sandwich in it because, you know, we got to get down to the nitty-gritty. Obviously, you guys love each other. You found love. We're thrilled by it. But we like to answer questions that people have. Yep. And there is a moment in the middle of this where we're kind of like, Dale, what's going on here?

things seem a tad shady and i said it i said it on my you know like when i did and you know like real shade but just like i'm talking about the way that it seems so we see you and you said it like and it clearly hearing the connection that you have i get why you were like well i feel like i'm the best suited that was a comment that you made yeah no that was a miss obviously obviously so i'll let you go through this explain why one you said that you said that you you felt you were the best suited to talk to Claire first. Please explain the group hug. Hey,

sorry. And I want you to explain why you were dazed and confused, wandering into the, I'll give you a rundown. With poor Jay. Who constantly got stepped over? Okay. So when I look at that and I feel like watching it back,

like if there's one thing I would have handled a little different, differently. Maybe would have been that situation. But after the Yosef incident and Claire had to deal with all that, it should be a lot. You know, I'm very protective of Claire. I was from the get-go. And so even understanding that verbal abuse and some of that aggression, like it immediately sparked in memories of my sisters. I have four sisters. I'm the only boy. And all the women in my life have dealt with physical or emotional abuse in some way, shape, or form. And I've been the one who's always had to pick up those pieces. And, you know, so for me, and also, you know, there was a lot of drama about guys cutting and showing up on other people's dates and all this

stuff. And what you'll see and realize, you know, I wanted to get out in front of it right away and say, hey, this is what I want to do. I want to speak with Claire first. If it's five or 10 minutes, I don't care. But I want to see her first. The group hug thing was like, a little bit, like, corny, whatever. In my mind, I didn't even think anything of it. All I was thinking about was Claire. And if any instance, even if it was over the top and made her feel loved, I don't care. And just naturally in my day-to-day, I do a ton with community building, you know, events in the wellness space.

It's just love. So while it comes off a certain way, I don't care because I just wanted her to feel overly comfortable and just know that she was a focus. Um, you know, obviously I spent a lot more time with Claire, uh, than five or ten minutes. It's hard though. In all fairness, no one showed up. I don't even know where these other guys were at. That's the thing.

You know how usually a guy, like a guy will come in and, can I steal you? Can I steal you? No one was there. There was, because you guys were hiding in the president's suite. No one could find it. I've never been there before. I didn't even know where like, I was like, but there's, there's a time in the video where I'm getting up and you're like, what are you doing?

I don't know. I just felt like. you don't need to rush. Also, it went like that. It really went like that. And in all fairness, too, that was the night where I thought I can have a long period of time with each guy. And so him being the first guy, I thought, great, the next guy I'll have a long period of time with, the next guy I'll have a long period of time with. And each night, truthfully, I made a conscious effort, even though it wasn't shown, I made a conscious effort to go above and beyond to give these guys time to spend time with these guys and even if it was a limited amount of time that we had together

I was completely present there is not like each and every guy I can tell you extensively stuff about their childhood about their growing up where they live in their jobs like I learned so much about every single guy and spent a lot of time with every single guy granted that was a lot of time with him but until that point I thought you were going to have a lot of time there were four or five guys who have spent more. Why were you dazed and confused? Explain that. Explain the days and confused. I want to, like, give you an opportunity to explain why, you know, like, her kissing.

Oh, when I came back out? Yeah. I want to give you an opportunity to explain it. Oh, I was, like, sprung after I left with Claire. I was like, I, it's like, oh, the second time when I came back. So I, what you'll see, the guys started arguing, I think Riley and Ed, if guys were arguing, I didn't even want to sit on the, like, I didn't even want to be in it. So I'd always get up and leave, you know, and I just got up and left and I was chilling for a little bit. And then I was

like, well, I'm going to see if Claire or someone's somewhere. So me walking through, I didn't know Jay was in there. I didn't even know they were going to be sitting that close when I opened the door. And then they were there, you know, so I was like, hey, I can give you some time, whatever. Come back and sit down. Claire said, come on, come on, I'm not going to, I'm not going to deny that, or deny time with her. And, you know, coming back out of it, you know, I was sticking on some things that guys were trying to say that I had this plan in my head and this malicious intent. I was like, y'all were arguing. I went up, went to the restroom, couldn't stand there anymore. And then I was like, I'm just going to go find Claire. It was like an impulse thing.

That's who I came to spend time with. So. See, if you had said that, I think people would have accepted it more like oh i know like i went looking like i'm here for claire even my i was cringing thinking like watching it back i was like oh my god and then it comes back just own it um yeah you don't have to keep peace with everything in every situation if you try to make everyone happy you just end up hurting the people you love and care about the most and that's exactly what that situation was i had respect for the guys i didn't want to step on their toes but also like i was at a point I could no longer like cut into time Claire and I had and I wasn't willing to but you can't make everyone happy and also after that point and you know the the night but also during filming and

everything I said if I was resonating here I'm here now because I'm no longer worried about the opinions of everything else like it's just as long as Claire is happy that's all I care and in all fairness I will say this too when he came in and like you just said rage like he came in and what it's easy to watch it on TV I think but in the moment it was I'm in a jacket it's probably 115 out at that point of night you're tired and on top of it I started to have anxiety because it was like one guy after another after another and it was almost like oh I at that moment I was feeling a lot of I was feeling overwhelmed um by the conversations and and then so at that point I was already really really comfortable with Dale and so when he came in the room it was like

like almost like a little bit of a relief of a breath of fresh air that was like okay you know and like you see your sister walk in the room and you're like okay I can calm down or like hey this is going to make it you know a little bit of a relief from that anxiety yeah and it wasn't j wasn't giving me anxiety but it was almost like it was just a breath of fresh in that moment sure yeah yeah it's overwhelmed and it was like oh it's nice to see him yeah yeah we have just a really good time that was late and it's such a fine line to walk like that i don't think viewers always realize is like you as the lead and as the Bachelorette, like you're trying to give all of these guys enough attention

and, like, be invested, but also, like, you have this relationship that you know is, like, really solid and forming, so you, of course, want to spend your time with them. And, like, vice versa for you, Dale, as a contestant. I mean, like, you seem to get along with the guys. Like, you were close with a lot of them in the house, but at the same time, like, you were there for Claire. At the end of the day, like, you were there to find love in her.

And so it's, it's a, it's a difficult balance, like on, on all sides. But, Dela, I want to ask you, was it difficult to maintain friendships when you obviously knew you were a very high up front runner with Claire and that, like, you had caught her eye and you were getting more time and attention from her? Was it difficult to maintain those friendships? But then also, like, have they now been supportive since the news of the engagement? How has that been? yeah i mean honestly um it wasn't difficult at all for me personally and i have so much respect for all the guys and there's been nothing but love and support um i said to each and every one of um like i learned so much about claire through the other guys by listening and asking questions

you know time when we weren't together um and i think you know certain things can be shown and people might have an opinion but there were like hell of great guys there and i think there's just a lot of love and respect. And, you know, that might have been why some of the drama scene years was so intense the way it was because we all had those relationships. And for something to come off and think that there was cruel intention would definitely sting and hurt a lot. But I have a great relationship with them.

You know, I think it's respect across the board. And they all get it, especially that's something that we all went through. And it's a unique situation for everybody. Here's how you tell Del. Are you in the group chat? I am in the group chat. You made it in? No, that's all you have to say.

You're in the group chat? The guys respect you. He made it in. He's in. Yeah. No, I definitely am in like that. So that's the key. I know.

That it really is. Can I be part of the group chat too? And he's like, clear, no, I think. No, Claire, you don't want to be part of the group chat. No, sorry. You don't want that. You're part of our group chat.

But for our listeners, there is always a group chat, and it's always advised to not be a part of it. They hate that it happens, but it's inevitable because you do establish these connections and these relationships. But the people that you spend more time with honesty than the lead. Because a lot of people, I mean, not a lot of people, not everybody makes it to the end. Only one does. So that's the key question. Did you make it to the group chat? I did make group chat.

So obviously, you did things right on both sides. the group hug worked at the end of the day people like if they see me because I host a lot of like fitness and wellness things and like I don't know it was corny or it was too much but whatever

it worked it was but it doesn't matter at the end of the day that group hug got you into the group chat and that's what you're always he always group hugs me and I'm like come on guys

come on it's maybe it's a South Dakota Maybe it's a South Dakota thing. I don't know. I've never been to the stay. But maybe that's how they roll. Have you heard this? Dale,

I feel like you would have anyone would have heard this. When you hug someone, do you do it for at least seven seconds because it releases endorphins? That's a long time. You got to hug it's seven seconds. 20 seconds? That seems awkwardly long. Oh, I thought it was seven.

I think if I hug somewhere for 20 seconds, I think it's 20 seconds. Okay, let's do the research because I think it's 20 seconds. And if it's not 20 seconds, I'm going to be so embarrassed because I held I've held Robert Mills for like 20 he's trying to back out

and I'm just holding on tight I'm Googling it right now oh shit there you are right it is 20 seconds it is 20 seconds if you have to hug someone for 20 seconds you definitely got to get their consent I always thought it was seven

and I thought seven was awkwardly long no other things start moving besides the arms in 20 seconds I don't hug I don't like it I don't like it. I don't. I'm not here for it. But I do want to get into the first date. We touched on it a little bit. But I feel like that first date was everything with you guys. And oh, it was a game changer. It was a game changer. And it explained so much. And if the viewers don't get it after watching the first day, then they're just like death. They're really just trying to be hateful and nasty. So I want to talk to you guys about the group date. and what it meant to you and what you guys were feeling to finally. Because Del, I mean, even for you, Del, let's just like take a couple of steps backward. Chris Harrison, who worked harder than he ever has before in any other season.

Chris Harrison pulls you to the side and he's like, Claire wants to spend more time with you. You know, and so like you know that information, but nobody else does. Yeah. So you're walking into this not really knowing what to expect. Claire does, but you don't. And you share so much with each other, not just of your best. backgrounds, but what you feel for one another. And then, you know, we get into the good times, you know, as my parents call it the closed door. We get into, so just like talk a little bit about

what that first date meant to you and maybe, maybe share a little bit of what as viewers we didn't see. Yeah. So when Chris pulled me out, I didn't know exactly what was going to be happening. But when you said Claire, you know, you're finally going to get some, your one-on-one time with Claire. By the way, I was, I know it looks awful. I was so, I didn't realize he canceled, when Chris canceled that rose ceremony, I was like, let's do this. It's on. It's on. No, I was like, that's all I wanted the whole time was just one-on-one time because there, you know, had been other guys that had gotten it up to that point.

And I think I even said, you know, once we get time together uninterrupted one-on-one time, it's a wrap. you know and that's so i was excited i didn't know what to expect as far as the date but i mean i could have easily just been like i could have easily dumped you sent you home i mean how confident is he right now how confident he's all had to wrap but you gave him what we were feeling together it was undeniable so i said i was going to make her fall in love with me one way or not oh you think you got this in the back one-on-one time I was like, well, that's where I were here today. Goals.

I did the same thing to Brian, so I actually understand this. Yeah, but that's all I wanted. I just wanted time with Claire from the moment I got there and as much as I could possibly get. So once we got it, whatever it was, I was happy. Thank God to make you go back to the guys after the overnight and everything. Because I was like, after the night, especially after our date, I was like, I don't know how I can go back.

back in the house with the guys. But also, like, and Claire and I talked about this, I wouldn't have felt comfortable with it. Yeah. And I know she wouldn't, like, it's like, what do we do now? What do we do that? So. And let's be honest, it was a date and a fantasy suite.

I mean, let's just call it what it was. Mm-hmm. Let's just back in. You probably had more time overnight during that night than we did in fantasy suites. Exactly. Yeah, we, that's what's just going to say what people don't see is that we had that essentially that from as soon as it got dark we had it was like a two or three

hour dinner sit down dinner which we did not eat the food because it was so hot out and it was like you never eat the food you never eat the food it was bad but we sat there for like two or three hours and i i don't get nervous very easily and i was so nervous because it's easy for me i don't know it's easy for me to talk to guys and have conversation because I do that everyday work at the salon I have conversations all day long but with him and that level of vulnerability of telling him for the first time that I loved him

was like I was so nervous and I just see my lips quivering the whole time and trying to stay composed but it was a long dinner and then he didn't know I had the surprise for him of Chris and Bree that was unbelievable and that song I still cry

and I still play it every single day. Oh my God, they are just everything. They also did the cover of what you guys didn't see? Beyonce X-O, yeah, Beyonce's X-O. And it was the most beautiful thing ever. They're amazing. Yeah, that, like, I literally have goosebumps right now thinking about it. And we've talked about how much, literally for the last few months,

like we can't wait to see this back. Because in that moment, and anyone who sees it, I know, like, who saw it. It's undeniable what we felt. And it was, it was so beautiful. It was so beautiful. It was one of the, one of those moments where you're like, it can't get better than this.

It cannot get better than this. In life, like, it cannot get. This is everything I ever dreamed of. And that's why when I feel those feelings and I look back and I watch it, and I remember those thoughts, it's like, I know it's hard going through the process and know, know it's hard watching the guys on the other end struggling and not knowing what's going on and it's hard it's one of those really hard situations because in that moment my heart is like I understand

what they're feeling I understand the frustration but to honor myself and to honor the feelings of what I came there for and to be in that moment of like this is exactly what I want and this is exactly what I came here for to do and I found it I found it and so it was that I don't know. I don't know if the right word is like, what's the word I'm looking for? Dexaposition. Yeah.

Of understanding like there's all these guys, but just there's all these guys waiting and not knowing what's going on and then just having one of the greatest moments of my life. It's a hard thing. But you know what? I think the way that you went about everything, like I'm sure in that moment to the guys

because they just felt like they were waiting around, it probably sucked. But in hindsight, like what you did to know and to say like I love Dale like this is it for me I have to remove myself from the rest of this season I think

they'll look back and they'll respect that decision because you didn't waste their time and that was something that was really really important to me and I will drive that home no matter what people think like I respect the hell out of those guys and that's why it was

really hard to go speak with with all the guys to let them know what was going on with Dale and I didn't want to drag it out. I mean, it was a hard thing of like, do you go through the whole season for it to just be Dale at the end and to have them then feel like all that time was wasted or give them

another opportunity with another woman to find love. And as much respect as I have for these guys, it was that really hard, hard position to be put in, but I think one thing that I can stand behind is that I've spoken to you guys about it before about my past and stuff that I've gone through

but it's it's a for me a big thing for my heart to be able to disappoint other people to not let myself down and I've done it in the past where I've put my feelings aside and done what I thought the guys wanted

or my feelings or my thoughts and done what's best for them and then I end up hurt and I end up just crushed. So to be able to honor yourself and honor your truth is something that I pride myself on and so it's a hard thing

when you have to disappoint another to make yourself, you know, to do what's best for yourself, but we all have to do that, you know? We all do and we've all been there. Yeah. And we all have our own journeys as to how long it takes us to get there.

Yeah. But I know I've been there, Becca's been there where, you know, like you do sacrifice yourself and lose yourself a bit in a relationship. And then when you come out on the other side of it, you're better for it and you know exactly what you're want. You're better prepared to accept when your person comes into your life. And I want to move into that because I want to talk about the proposal.

Oh, it was beautiful. We want to get to the good stuff. Yeah, it was because, you know, like we got so many teases before that made it seem like Del was thinking maybe it was Dale was maybe thinking that that wasn't the case or he was getting nervous figuring out like is he ready for marriage and then he gets down on one knee

even before he gets down on one knee and just puts it all out there and it's like oh, Del's been ready okay? Del was just waiting for the right person to get how in one knee for. No, it really dealt and I want to talk about that because you know full disclosure you know i'll always whatever i say behind your back i'll say to your

face and i didn't say it behind your back i said it on the podcast but when we had when you were on the love language's date and we saw you do the words of affirmation i said okay i was just expecting just a little bit more from day a little underwhelming just a little underwhelming and then comes the proposal and i said you know what if this is what we were waiting for i'll wait i'll wait again It was beautiful and I want to just take you guys back to that moment and leading up to it and we heard from you, Dale, obviously when you proposed, Dale, when you obviously proposed to her and then we heard Claire, you know, talk about what she was, what the whole moment meant for her. But I just want to hear it. We want to hear it from your perspective of leading up to that moment and then what it took for you to get down on one knee and make that commitment to Claire. Yeah. So if you know, like anyone that knows me, like there was a lot of times early on that I was nervous. Obviously, it's a new experience going on, you know, the first few times with Claire. But as we went on, like this was the most confident. And we both say this. Like that portion was not nerve-wracking for me or us at all. Like we, I felt so calm and so confident. And I knew exactly what I was going to say because I've run that through my mind hundreds of times. times, you know? And it wasn't, it was never an option on whether or not I was going to commit

and be there for her and give her everything that I had. So that's exactly, you know, what I did. And I told her even earlier, I was like, I will never leave you hanging. There will never be a time while I'm here that I will ever leave you hanging. So for me, I just, I just expressed, you know, what I wanted and just long story short that whatever we have to go through both the good and the bad like I'm going to be by your side throughout and I still love hearing and honestly like I think a lot about it too like I was very very very emotional after our one-on-one date and like you don't see this but there's an interview and it asks you know like what would your mother say to you and I was bawling. And I would like, and I said that she would say that, you know, thank you. Thank you for

everything that you've done and holding our family together. But thank you for putting yourself first for once and finding happiness. And all I could think the entire time is how much my mother would love Claire. And just, it's, and I know she, you know, she feels her presence. but yeah it was just never difficult like it was always written it was going to be her and i and from the moment i stepped out of the limit to you know being there at the end there was never a time if i was going to keep rocking with her and give her everything i had i think one thing that at least it hit me because i kind of understand like i've lost a parent too as as you both have so you get it um one thing that claire kept reiterating throughout the entire season since the beginning

is you know the fact that like unfortunately claire your dad passed away but he would always show up. He would always show up and he told you to always show up. And I think from what we saw, like, Dale, especially in those last moments where it kind of makes it look like, is he going to show up? Is he not? Like, what's going to happen? Like, you showed up. And I want to know, like, now that you've seen it and you've watched it back, because there's a lot that I'm sure Claire has said in interviews that you weren't privy to unless you watched it, is that she said you reminded her of her father, which hit me really deep because I said,

that's the same things when I was The Bachelorette and I think it's probably like one of the best compliments anyone could give a person and so watching that back like those moments of her speaking about you in regards to her dad and holding you to his similar standard what did that feel like for you? Oh I thought you were asking it for Claire

sorry about that I know exactly how much like Claire losing her father affected her just based on what she shared with me. And for her to say that and say that I embodied her father and she felt protected and she also felt the compassion. That's all I ever wanted. You know, as as a son and a brother, I only wanted to provide that for my family and be that for my sisters and my mother. And I've always wanted to be a father. I've always wanted to have a family, you know. Life and career takes you through all these different turns.

and for her to say that she felt that in me and saw that in me I can't even put that into words because that's everything I've ever wanted as far as just to be that for someone else and have that be reciprocated. Yeah, and I know that it's not, it was quick, you guys,

it was quick that we got engaged and I know, you don't know, obviously when it's that fast, you don't know everything about somebody. Yeah. But what I do know is that the things that he embodied, that I, he showed me that we talked about, things that were just even him showing up at the very end and not even wavering on it for one second. These, these type of things are what I have always looked for in a man. And in the most intense, I mean, like at the proposal, the most intense, stressful could have been like a nerve-wracking thing. He had written a letter to me.

we had written letters to each other beforehand and I was I was so I was like is he going to show up is he going to be there I don't know I know how I feel but I don't know you know like it doesn't scare him but it was it was like there's never going to be a moment where I don't show up for you and whether it be at the proposal and to this very day months months later he's still at when I'm just a wreck and it's he's in New York time. I'm in Sacramento time and it's you know five o'clock in the morning New York time and I'm crying and he's just fading off I'm like but are you still there and he's like I'm still here I'll watch the sun come up like I'm still here if you need me and he hasn't wavered on that and that's exactly everything I've ever looked for like I said and he he really does embody that so

the basis of what I'm looking for he or what I was looking for he has So, albeit quick, you can't replace those qualities. You can't just either they're there or they're not there. Wow. Del, we got to get you on the West Coast so you can get some sleep. What's right? It's what I just heard. Oh, for real.

Wow. I like make jokes, but you know how we feel about you guys and how happy we are for you. And you guys have found each other in this crazy, crazy world. in the shortest amount of time ever in bachelor history. But as both of you have said on separate occasions, when you know, you know. And Deanna said that as well. One thing I do want to piggyback on is, you know, like, there's a future that the two of you have together. And, you know, planning roots and wherever that may be and buying a house and having little light-skinned babies that you might have with one another.

So what does the future hold for Claire and Dale? Yeah, I think the future is that starting off, what I love about Dale is that he, nothing scares him with talking about the future. I talk about babies all the time. So many babies. And he's like, yeah, that's what I want. And it doesn't scare him. And I'm, I'll remind him of things all the time if like, you know, not getting any younger.

You know, I'll say things like that. And he's like, you think I don't know this? Like, yeah, like let's do this. But like I told you guys early, we were house hunting today and picking out the area we live in or we want to live in. And what's important, he knows what's important to me is right now being here for my mom. And that's something that's honestly, this hasn't been a tough decision like what needs to happen in the future. because as long as we're together, for me, that's all that matters.

And, you know, thankfully we have the ability, and it's, you know, myself included, even though I have roots in New York to where I can be where I need to be, what I need to be. But we're building a life. We're building a foundation. You know, we want to have a home here.

And like, ultimately, in the number one thing is to make sure that we're both, that she's secure and safe, but that her family and we're doing what's best for, like us, but also our family. So whatever it is, as long as we're together, that's the only thing that matters. Can I just say, yeah, I'm probably going to cry because I'm already getting to your head. But Claire, I've talked to you about this before.

It's like one of the first conversations that we had, but just Del to hear you say that that's what's important and to be there for her, when you're, oh gosh, here comes to tears, Becca knows I start crying. I'm trying to find the right words. When someone, a loved one is going through dementia, it is so hard on the caretaker. And I've been very, like, honest with Claire about this, it runs in my family and I've, my grandmother, my, very, very close women in my family that I have grown up with have suffered from dementia. And it is very, very hard on the caretaker. And so just to hear you say, what's important. and that you're going to be there with her, I know is everything that you get it and you understand it.

And I just want to acknowledge that because not everybody gets what it is to be there for someone who's taking care of someone who's going through that. And so once again, it's like the further we get into this conversation, the more it's so relevant how you guys are so meant for each other because not everybody is so willing to understand that, to put their life and whatever it may be on hold to be there to support the person who's going through that, even if you haven't been through that yourself. So I just, I'm sure Claire has

acknowledged that a million times, but I just want to acknowledge that because I, I know what it is. Yeah. It's brutal. Dementia is brutal. You got a good one. You got a good one. You both have good ones. But it's, I mean, even things down to, there was a moment where we're going, we're going through this process where people don't know we're together and we can't talk about it or anything like that and obviously this season there was not hometowns but since my mom you know dementia it gets rapidly worse um and he had actually what people don't know is that he had come up here and had

it was when they were just allowing window visits um with my mom because of COVID um but he had come up and had to talk with my mom and just said basically like she she's she was like where do you live and he said New York and she's like are you taking my daughter to New York with you and he said no we're keeping her right right here in Sacramento with you and so it's just like things like that that are just a re-reconfirming everything that I have been looking for and that I wanted in a man somebody that will understand this in real life stuff, show aside, the fun stuff aside. I've always said, I want a guy who'll be around for the hard stuff, for the nitty-gritty, for when it's not pretty, for when it's not easy.

And he's just embodied that. I'm so happy for you that you guys have that with each other and that you have that support system. And, um, Del, that you're just like supporting her through it all. I just, she's done the same thing. valuable. Yeah, and I get that constantly from Claire. You know, another thing. And this is, in a short span, we both had to support each other emotionally in a lot of

different ways. My high school coach, who is a father to me, out of nowhere was diagnosed with stage four cancer throughout his entire body. And they didn't think that, I mean, it was, it was ugly. And she was with me the same thing. I'd be crying all night. she'd sit up on the phone with me, was willing to risk everything just to fly to South Dakota. She didn't care about contracts or anything just to be there and support me.

You know, and by the grace of God, like, he's so much better and things are great. But she really, really, really was my rock throughout that whole thing because I was, I was a mess. And it's just, it wasn't a question of if. It's like, what can I do? How much can I do no matter what? I got you. And that's special. That's something that I haven't had, you know, outside.

And I think, like, that's all we want to do. So we just want to, like, know that we have someone in our corner, and we know that we have that. And it's not going to change. Yeah, that's not to be long-winded, but that's what I'm talking about with such a short engagement and with knowing each other, the root in the core is we're not going to give up on each other.

And we've got each other's backs. and anything else we can handle but at the core of it we've got each other's backs and I don't need a lot more than that and we got love we got that base

yeah when the cameras go away audio all of that it's about sticking with each other through the hard times and that's the things that people don't see and so you know like I'm sad and that you guys

have gone through hard times but I'm glad to know that you've been able to be strong for one another. When one is weak, the other one's strong. You've been able to lean on one another to get through it. And that is why you have a successful relationship. Not because it's been serendipitous and you've found each other, found love on television. It's because you have one another's back through the hard times when no one else is looking. Yeah. I'm really happy for you guys. I am, I can't wait to see what the future holds. And Dale, I have to ask you. I just actually,

I don't ever want to ask you. I just have to call you out on one thing, because I took an audio recording of it so give me two seconds here oh god hopefully my phone doesn't die okay there we go this is what we're proposal let's do the damn thing

you stole my mind damn let's do the damn thing where did you hear that from Dale that's why I spend that all the time let's do the damn thing let's do the damn

I literally when I watched I rewatch it because I literally I blank out the moment was just like but when I rewatch it I was like that's Becca's line I'm in my line deal

that's so funny I was watching it and I was I was laying with my dog and I was like did he just like oh hell no did he just take my line but it was so worth it so I'll give it up for this

because it was very very worth it um all right thank you okay two more questions before we let you go, I have to ask this, and this is going to be the beginning of you guys hearing this one million times in probably like the next two years. But do you guys have any wedding plans? Okay. So we're like dabbling because you know how it is kind of with guys. Like he doesn't, he's not scared of anything. But I'm like, so here's my wedding dress ideas. And here's the day that I want to get married. And he's like, okay. I mean, everything.

is like he he truly is like the yin to my yang like i'm i'm passionate i've heated and i have i would get intense with everything and he's just like this very i mean like he can hang with me but he's very even keeled and very reasonable and just kind of like levels me out on some on some on some to some extent so wait del when's your sign what's your sign i mean i bra september 24th i'm i'm iber scales right on the cost of saying you're the scales But, um, I, like, we, we definitely talked about it. Obviously, uh, the times we're in with, uh, the pandemic makes some of the things a little bit difficult, but we, we just want to enjoy this time together, but we, I would literally marry

him tomorrow if I could. And it wouldn't be. Yeah, we've talked about we could do this in a courthouse. Well, you guys, you know what? I'm an ordained minister. I'm an ordained minister. Do you want to just do it right now? for the actual day since you have your day plan but do you have a wedding planner let's do the damn thing do we have what a wedding planner i'm gonna make us all shirts oh oh i got you like like shit have you're you're done that's we've got that one settled done love it meg it's not the party the party what's it called um the perfidy yes i mean it's probably coming a lot i got you i will text you all

information after all of us. I'm not playing. I love it. I love it. We don't have anything crazy right now planned. I think we're just, we're excited to. I mean, I feel like I hear people when I rewatch the show, those people are like, we're just excited to do things. And I genuinely, he's like, he knows what I want to do. I'm like, I just want to go to Target together. No, I get that. Like, we have we have so much fun to get like our biggest thing has been just itching to go where we can go out and do the simple things in public. But we have fun. Just, I mean just chilling around the house.

You guys, TikToks to come. We have been making so many TikTokers. Oh, that game is crazy. Rachel, you're going to have to get TikTok now. No, you know how much I despise TikTok. Wait until you guys. I change my mind with you guys. Wait until you guys go to Costco for the first time together.

It's going to be magical. I cannot wait. A little thing. Guys, back to the way. wedding planning. So my vision is too, because I've never been a fan of like big weddings, but I really want to go to like island hop to different countries, different like tropical places, have a couple different just me and him ceremonies and come back and have just a huge beautiful party with everybody. Oh damn. In my mind, we were island hopping with you. Do you need somebody

to carry your suitcases in packs of me because I volunteer as tribute. And I already asked Chris and I'm like, look, I know you guys are kind of a big deal now, but can you serenade our wedding? And Chris was like, say more, fam, stay in that. They're so wonderful. Yeah, they're so awesome. Isn't there like a suitcase guy for The Bachelor, Bachelor at like Viral or something? Oh, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can make that happen too. I'm sure he'll be more than happy to do it. Okay, Becca, I think you had another, one more question. I did add one more question. Well, because I truly want to talk to you guys for hours because you're just so damn cute. But obviously, you guys have a life to live and probably other things to do right now. So, well, Claire, you know this because we've had you in our podcast.

But Dale, this is very new for you. But each week with our guests, we like to play rose and thorn. And so for both of you, I have to ask you, what was the thorn of the season for you? And what was both of your roses? Is the rose I'm going to start Can I start with Rose? Of course

All right The Rose was the engagement I mean hands down I think that like that was the ultimate And I mean it was just beautiful It was everything You know I was looking for

I know with Claire as well And that's what got us here You know to this point So the engagement was definitely the rose I want to know your thorn damn uh getting interrupted in the

i mean the thorn was the yoseph thing like the thorn was the yoseph thing that pissed me like i was fucking pissed um oh yeah let it out i like let it out it's okay you can be pissed i don't know like that because Claire can handle herself she can she she's grown she's been through things but

that's I know that affected her it wasn't Yosef that affected her it was the action in hearing those things and that bothered me that whole night it doesn't show those things I was fucking pissed and you know again I just I just don't like that you know that's that's not how any man should ever act in any instance and I just would I would never have hoped for her to go through that but so that was the thorn but you know I'm happy at least even that night I was able to be there for you yeah I will tell you guys this

that is not my thorn because I will not give any man that credit to affect me to that level first of all I'll start off with my thorn my thorn was probably the day that I had to walk in to talk

to the guys to let them know that it was that I was taking off with Dale although it was one of the greatest moments feeling confident in that it was a really, really excruciating thing for me because I've talked about it a ton before how grateful I was for these guys to show up

and to go through all the testing and to put their lives on hold at the opportunity, the chance for just love. And it was a really, really hard thing because I have so much love for these guys. I have so much love for these guys. And I really, they showed up.

And I know I repeat that all the time, but they really did bring some really deep conversation, some great things to the table. And each and every one of these guys, at any other time in my world, in my life, I would be honored to date any one of those guys. And like, it would be such an honor to me because they are such great men.

So that was a really hard thing. for me to deal with um but on the flip side my rose was probably standing there that first night when dale got out of the limo and when you go into something like this even though there's 31 amazing guys there there could have been it's only 31 guys out of this entire world what if my guy wasn't there? And I would never, if my guy wasn't there, I was willing to walk away.

Because I'm happy at this point in my life. I was established and had everything I'm looking for and just very content in life. And so knowing that he got out of limo and felt like that electricity with each other, it was like, when I said I knew it, it was like,

it's everything I've ever wanted and waited for and hoped for in my life up from a relationship, that moment where you just, feel it and it's mutual so that was my rose you guys both fantastic roses and thorns this is what I need at this point you guys it's been absolutely amazing to talk to you both and Becca and I want to do a cheers to you guys so if everybody can grab their drinks oh cheers it's water we are so happy that the two of you have found one another in this crazy crazy world and

And our living proof that it doesn't matter the time, it doesn't matter, the circumstance of the year, 20, freaking 20. If it's love, it's love. If you feel it, you feel it. If you connect, you connect. And, you know, it all can happen. So here is to hope and here is to taking risk because you never know what's on the other side of it. So, cheers to you guys. Cheers.

All right. Rachel, you guys, what, just what a lovely couple. I'm so excited for them as they continue on this journey. I hope that they find a home. I hope that they make the cutest babies so we can be aunts to them. But, you know, as sad as it is to watch another, quote, unquote, season come to a close. We're not done yet because we still got the rest of this season as we saw the new journey and a new bachelorette with Tasia. finally we can talk about it i i becca have felt silly saying allegedly and rumored bachelorette tasha

when we all know that tasha was going to come at some point in this season and i'm just so happy that we can acknowledge tasha that we have finally seen her acknowledged by the franchise i get it though I do. I get why Claire needed to play out before we brought in Tasha. We need to give respect to Claire and let her do her thing. And then fully let Tasia have her moment. I do understand it. But it has been frustrating. Having an opinion on the whole thing and not being able to speak on Tasha. When we knew what Tasha was coming. I mean, my God, I'm on our season. I sat down with her. So are you. You know? So it's like, it's just great. We feel so free in this moment. So you guys, we have such a. treat for you in the next podcast because we're finally getting to talk to Tasha. And we're going to talk to her about so much. We're going to talk to her about some of the questions that you guys have had. We're going to talk to her about how this all came about, what she was feeling, why she decided to say yes, what it was like coming in after Claire, what she was feeling, what she was excited about, what she was fearful about and what is to come for her. And of course, we're going to

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