Bachelor Happy Hour - Exclusive: Gerry & Theresa Tell All Part 1

Episode Date: December 1, 2023

Today's Happy Hour is a nonstop celebration with Bachelor Nation's newest couple, Gerry and Theresa! Hot off the incredible season finale of “The Golden Bachelor,” the happy couple chats with Joe and Serena about the differences in finding love the second time around, how Theresa dealt with Gerry's other connection and why they don’t want to wait any longer to officially become husband and wife! Plus, they reveal where they are going to be living, and Gerry discusses his emotional goodbye with Leslie. Be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier.

Complex problem solving. Takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic Representative of Texas. She's holding out the fork for her party in one of the most conservative states in the Union. I think that ultimately, who will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and has shown that they won't allow themselves. to be punched and just say thank you. Like, they will punch back.

Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. We are live and ready to go because we are here. Oh, I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here with the lovely Golden Bachelor,

the first Golden Bachelor couple ever, Gary and Cheney. Trisa, welcome the happy hour. Welcome. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. How does it feel? You guys are finally out and together. You're glowing.

You're glowing. Amazing. The relief is overwhelming. Not have to hold in a secret of this size for another minute is fantastic. I have to tell you, I didn't even tell my sisters, and they've been dying this entire time. And it was going back and forth between,

Oh, no. You were kind of sad when you came back. So I think it's a no. Oh, but then I think you got all these new clothes. I think it's a yes. I think it's a no. Teresa, tell me. And I wouldn't tell them.

Wait, so did you tell your daughter? Oh, yeah. My daughter and my son-in-law and the three boys knew. And they kept the secret this entire time. And my son and his wife, you know. Wow. Your poor sisters. But it's going to be so exciting.

It must be so exciting now that they know. And not only them, but all of the viewers, everyone watching, I remember that was like the best feeling. When our finale was done, it's like just a weight off your shoulders. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, that's the way I felt. I know that. It's like a whole new chapter.

You don't have to hide. You don't have to couch everything you say. It's out there. So you can enjoy yourself. Get ready. You're out in the open now. Let's just jump right into this. Let's get into what the people want to hear.

will go right to the engagement. Teresa, I feel like I learned so much about you during this engagement, just the way you handled what you thought was going to be a letdown because Gary and Gary, that was. Oh, my God, Gary. That was something. And we knew, like, as the audience, we knew that it was Teresa and you were going to propose it. Even for a second, I was like, oh, no, oh, no.

Poor Teresa. But it was a bitter one, wasn't it? It was. I said, oh my God, somebody come and take me away. Like, take me out of here. Like, this is so embarrassing. Just get me out of here. It's bad. And yeah. But, Teresa, you were so great because the minute he was, and I feel like it's just kind of a, it just shows how compatible you guys are and like how much your sense of humor lines up. Because she, the minute, she realized it was a joke. And Gary was like, nope, you're the one I can't live without. She was like, oh my gosh, ha ha. Like, that's so great.

It was pretty good. No, that was really good. It was, it made for a moment. Yeah, it really did. It made it more exciting. Yeah, we'll never forget it. And so, I mean, you probably know this, but I misspoke the line. I wasn't even supposed to say it exactly the way I did.

The way I said it had much stronger impact than what I was supposed to say. So I had to quickly, you know, change the course of things by saying the line that she's the one I couldn't live without. I was slinking away. You called an audible. Trees is like halfway back to the car. He's like, no, wait. He's going to come and take me now.

He's just walking away. It's looking backwards. Gary, you did refer a lot to that line during the whole season, the find the woman you can't live without. Do you want to explain to us what that truly means to you? Sure. You know that line came from Trista. Yes.

She gave me that as a piece of advice. And so the more I thought about it, the more I processed, I realized, yeah, that's exactly the guidepost I need to use going forward in this journey. It's like there are a lot of beautiful women there. They were all elegant and well-educated. And I loved them all. But I knew there was only one woman there that I just couldn't live without. And that's the person I had to find. And lo and behold, that's the one.

Yeah. And what is it about Teresa that made you a wow? like I can't live without this woman, these qualities. You know, so when I went into the journey, there were several things that I really looked for. I really needed to have in a partner. One of them was the ability to make me calm. You know, I can get carried away and excited.

And Teresa right away on that first date, you know, with a touch on the shoulder and soft conversation, she made me calm. Another one of the important qualities was somebody who could match my strong personality and she certainly can match my strong personality so it makes us on even footing we're equal partners and everything and then there's the sense of humor which is huge but one quality that i've kind of come to realize a little bit later in conversations that i thought was really important it was high on my list was the person that will make me a better person a better man and she does that

So all of those boxes were checked, and I just knew it. It was easy at that point to know who my person was. Wow, that's beautiful. Trisa, not to make you go second to that wonderful answer, but what is it about Gary that you feel like you can't live out? Oh, so Gary is not only so warm-hearted and kind and sensitive and good. He's a man of integrity, and he really stands up for what he believes in. He doesn't back down.

He's a really strong man. And so even though, you know, I think I would say that, okay, maybe I could live without a man, but I want this man. Like I really want this man. So, yeah, and that we do complement each other so well. When we were going into the, when I was asked whether or not I wanted to go into the fantasy suite, I jumped at that chance because I really wanted, it was hard, it's difficult. to really be yourself in front of the cameras.

And I really wanted that a long time to talk and to find out, you know, on a deeper level. And that's what happened. I mean, honestly, and I went in there thinking, I'm going to tell them the pros and cons between me and Leslie. I don't have to make it. No way. What were they?

Well, we never got to that. Well, first of all, well, we kissed first. But then we started, we started. started talking and it got deeper and deeper and we started, you know, really talking at a very deep level and we realized how much we hadn't come in and we got more and more excited, you know, by the second. Like I knew it the entire time that I was on the show, but it just sealed it and confirmed it from me when we were in the fantasy suites. And it really was about that conversation, that deep conversation. It was, it was, you know, you probably felt it like it was such a relief

to not be in front of the cameras and to really just be yourself. It was great. I think that's... Does you guys have the same feeling? Yes, we definitely have the same feeling. Well, I had the same feeling. I can't speak for you. But I can totally understand what you mean, Teresa,

of being like, I'm going to go in there and make sure, like, he knows I'm the girl for him. Like, I'm going to go in there and be like, hey, Joe, I'm your wife. I'm the girl you've been looking for. I just want to make sure with the cameras off that you're aware of that, too. Yeah.

But not even needing to push that in any way, because the chemistry and the connection is just there and you just, the night just kind of flows, if that makes sense. Yeah, that's what happened. I will say, though, as a viewer, night of the fantasy suites, the dinner beforehand, was the first time that Gary, I believe, you learned that Teresa is a businesswoman and is still working. And that seemed like it was something that really intrigued you and seemed like some of you were really attracted to. Is that right? So Joe's sort of, but not exactly. Okay.

I knew that she was still working and I knew generally what she did. In that conversation, what was revealed to me was that she was a logical thinker and that she was analytical about her approach. And so the next step from that is I could have this person with me being a good problem solver when things get tough. And granted, that's a bit of a leap from conclusion to, conclusion. But that was how my mind went, is that I understand how she thinks, and this is a person I would want to be in my corner if things get tough. Yeah, we found more and more that we really do

think alike and, you know, want the same things out of life. And basically, yeah. I think that makes total sense because you both use the word partner a lot. I know, Gary, you said in the beginning, you know, you're looking for your partner, your person, you're equal. And if you kind of think the same and you approach things the same and there's that compatibility, I can see how you'd be like, wow, like, this is really going to work because we can lean on each other. Yeah. I know too many couples where the man will sort of take charge when it comes to decision-making or problem-solving, and that's great if it works for those couples.

I didn't really want that. I wanted to be a 50-50 with someone. we're both strong personalities, we'll both stand up for what we believe, but that even makes it better because I think you learn from each other when there's back and forth. And I'm really thrilled with that part of our relationship. Is that what you were looking for as well, Teresa, when you went into this process, someone that you could be 50-50 with? Yeah, absolutely. I did. Yeah, to be on the same equal footing with and, you know, in intellect and desire and drive and passion and what he was.

wanted out of life. And I will tell you this from the very beginning of this journey, I only ever wanted him to find the best possible person. I wasn't really, even though they looked at, I wasn't trying to push my agenda on this. I really, I really wholeheartedly, I'm an extremely open-minded person. And I really wanted him to explore it with every single person. And because like, you know, are you sure? Yeah. Otherwise, there's doubt. Absolutely sure. Right. Yeah. So, so, Teresa, were you weren't, were you not nervous at all during the overnights when he was with, um, the other with Leslie? Oh, that's a good question because I didn't know he had been with Leslie.

Okay. So I said, oh, you still have to go out on a date with Leslie now and the overnights. He said, no, better it happened. I said, oh, my God. I said, what did you do? He said, oh, we just repelled off a cliff. I said, repels up a cliff and we just bought with four. Wow.

And I was, yeah. So we talked about that. So, yes, was I nervous? Yeah, I know. Actually, I don't know. That's not me. Okay. Really, if it's meant to be, it's meant to be.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK. Storytime Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to choose an adapted strategy, which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it

if it's going to be beneficial to you because it's easy to say like go you go blank yourself right it's easy it's easy to just drink the extra beer it's easy to ignore to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way avoidance is easier ignoring is easier denial is easier drinking is easier yelling screaming is easy complex problem solving meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined. Conservative podcasts can have a major political impact, but the Myceles Brothers, three siblings with a serious media strategy, are building an alternative.

to that. On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, I sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up, why audience interaction is the key to political influence and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale, one download at a time. We should be focusing on the issues that actually occupy a lot of the mental space in Americans' minds but are filled with conspiracies. and we should fill it with the truth and solutions. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is that how you were kind of throughout the journey and then down into the end, then, you know, it sounds like you are an open-minded person you want to him to explore, but obviously you're in love with this man.

How was that, you know, having your feelings, grow stronger and stronger and all the way down to, you know, walking down to what could have been a proposal or a breakup, how was that for you? Yeah, that was, that was difficult. It really, it's, it's hard. You know that this is the process. You know that this is the journey, that there are other women. And so, yes, I wanted him to explore everything. And that was hard to have those feelings to go on that first date. For me to think that first date was so great, I knew that I had to step back. And I had to allow him to finish the entire journey. And I think Gary said to me, he said, you know, I was so excited after our first date. But he kept saying to himself, don't get

stuck on this first date. You have to explore it with other people. Like, maybe this isn't right. Maybe you're just excited about the first date. Maybe that's all it is. And then, yeah, but I don't know if you've seen it on the show, but I was truly, truly happy when Ellen got her date. And when Leslie got her date and Faith did. And like, yes, cheering them. on. I don't know why was a nuts. Wait, did that throw you off at all, though, Gary? Were you like, did that throw you off at all, her willingness to lean into this process and let you lean into it?

Did any part of you go, oh, maybe she's just not that into me? You know, she's so excited for me to be dating all these women. I have to say you're hitting on a very good point. I can't say it threw me off, but I was overwhelmed at her level of unselfishness. and that's it was really legit because at a first time or two I thought that she's kind of faking this this isn't really her but then when I saw it play over and over again I go oh my god this woman is completely unselfish and open-minded and you know what it does it it compels me to protect her heart even more so that I can't let something happen to someone who's as innocent as as she is

about this. Yeah. I feel like that makes sense because she in return was giving so much care and thought to your heart as well. She was indeed. Absolutely was.

So then, go ahead, Trisa. I was going to say so Gary didn't get to see how I was for the other dates until he saw it back. So he wouldn't know how I was feeling about it.

I really didn't know because really I kind of, you know, there are so many times that we're together we don't see so to really you know, further relations.

that you're not seeing. But anyway. Right. No, that makes sense. It's always a different journey watching it back. And, you know, there's hard parts to watch, but then there's really nice parts to watch of your partner as well. How is it walking down then that last day? Because we knew, obviously, you know, Leslie was gone and it was just you. We knew he was going to propose, but you didn't know. How was that feeling? Oh, my gosh. I was looking at the weather and was sitting in the morning and I'm saying, okay, well, did Leslie just go? because now the sun is out, or now am I going first, and is she going second? I had no idea, no clue, whoever. And I was, yeah, I didn't find out until later, right? After it was all over, I didn't know. You didn't find out until later that Leslie never made a trip at all. Right, I never found, right. I did not know that.

Yeah. They kept that away from me. I still, in my mind, I thought it was both of us. Wow. I didn't know. if you had to say like what percentage you thought yes he's going to propose and what percentage you were like oh i'm not sure what would you say oh i thought it uh-uh i was i was like a hundred percent actually actually like 99.9 percent so when it seemed like

it wasn't i went he changed his mind oh my god he changed his mind oh my god please something you know and that's when i started flinking away that was just a really magic moment Teresa, you said, you said Billy and Gary, you said Tony would both like each other. Or am I explaining this correctly? Yeah. Yeah. What is it about, Tracy, you go first. What is it about Gary?

Do you think Billy would really like that. He would love that he's so warm-hearted and kind and sincere and like a natural, down-to-earth, wonderful person. a good-hearted person. That's what Billy would love about me. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. And then what would Tony love about Teresa?

Tony had a big heart. She was big at volunteering. She put other people first. She would have been attracted to that quality with Teresa because she does put other people first. She's always thinking about how she can make someone else happy. She's always thinking about how to answer the comments that she sees on Instagram and she'll stay up late and risk her own sleep time

to make sure she doesn't hurt someone's feelings on Instagram. I keep someone to stop. And I was like, yeah, have these sequels are nice. So you're answering all, you're everything, huh? Well, especially direct messages, yeah. Every, pretty much everyone. Well, good luck because after the finale, you're going to be up every night, all night long,

if you keep that up. You're going to get a lot of love your way. People are wondering now. Okay, so big announcement last night, you guys announced a date. You are getting married. Let's talk about that. Quick turnaround, no? Yeah, I mean, that's quick. It took me a year to plan on a wedding. It's taking you guys, what, five weeks? This is crazy. We're old. Yeah, time's wasting. Yeah, think about it this way. You know, you can wait a year when you're 20 years old, and it might be three or four percent of your remaining life. When you're 70, a year. could be 10% or 20%. So we didn't want to put off what we really felt was right.

So when the obstacle of geography was overcome, which was really something I thought would hold us back in time. When that was overcome, we really didn't have any problems. I mean, I think we both realized how compatible we were. The feelings were there. Our families are incredibly, in such a short time, incredibly close to each other. They're talking all the time.

They refer to each other as sisters, our daughter. That's so nice. You're giving me beautiful sisters. Yeah. It's like there's no, we could not find a good reason to not move forward quickly. Yeah.

Well, catch me up to date. Where are you guys going to live? Do you have that plan? Well, yes. It's going to be in South Carolina. Oh, we just got married there.

Where in South Carolina? Oh, yeah, in Charleston, right? So in the Charleston, area. Right. Oh, we love Charleston. Wait, is that where you guys are going? Yeah, or outside and Mount Pleasant. So, and he's always had this thought, well, for the last two years. Yeah, the last two years. And no one really knew that. So it was sort of like, oh, so are you going to go move to Indiana? I keep saying, I'm not moving to Indiana. But my, you know, I have a son and a daughter. I live four minutes from my daughter and my three grandsons, grandsons in Shrewsbury, but I have a son who lives in South Carolina. So it

be like an hour and 45 minutes from there. And we really plan on, we want the family to visit all the time. We're trying to find a home that everyone would love to come to. And we plan on visiting family all the time. And yeah, so we're going to have a very active life. And, you know, family's so important to us. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love that. You guys are moving to South Carolina. I love South Carolina. That's so exciting. What a great way to start this new chapter of your lives. So marriage soon and we're currently looking for a home. Correct? We haven't started looking yet.

Now we will because we can be seen in public. There was a picture of phone call right as the taping was ending. And it was a random sales call by a real estate person in South Carolina in the Charleston area. And it was early in the morning and I was a little groggy, hadn't had my first cup of coffee yet. And I'm listening to her. And I go, do you realize I'm planning on moving to your area? anyway. And her comment was, oh my God, what a way to start a Monday morning. And so she's been sending listings several times a week ever since. Yeah. Oh, that was a lucky cold call for her. That's a sign.

That has to be a sign. There's faint. You know what there is. A lot of faint involved here. Okay. So are we too old for bachelor, bachelor at parties? No. Okay. Do we plan? Do we plan one of those? Trisa, are you planning a bachelor party? Any girls from your season that you're close with, that you're inviting. Yes. Planning a Bachelor at party. Where? Oh, where? I can't stop, you know, tell you that. Really? You can't tell us?

Are you doing Vegas? No, I don't think so. No, because I got Vegas. Oh, you're doing Vegas. We both did Vegas, but we did different weekends. Wow. Yeah, no. I know my pickleball friends brought it up this week if they could, you know, do some

kind of a bachelor party. And I thought, you know, if we kind of, if we Mind it down by 9 o'clock. We can go anywhere you want. There you go. Somewhere with an active daytime. Yeah. Yeah.

I like that. That's going to be great. What else? What else? So let's touch a little bit on Gary, the breakup with Leslie. We know that that was pretty tough. And we don't have to talk long about it because I know it's awkward. But how do you feel now that that's,

that's all over with. Well, I feel awful that, you know, it was a difficult situation. There was no way out of it that was graceful. And I think that was the worst of it is that every direction I turned trying to find the more graceful, the more gracious way out, it just wasn't there. So as you saw, I was able to break protocol with what the Bachelor, Bachelorette franchise is typically done, where two women go. down, you know, one anticipating or one getting an engagement and one getting sent home.

And I was able to not do that with Leslie and break the news to her the night before, as you saw. And it was horrible. I'm not going to lie. There's no, there's no way to dress it up. It was a horrible moment. I had such strong feelings for such admiration and respect, only to be the guy that had to send her home and dash her dreams. And I want to add this that I was really good friends with Leslie in the house. I cooked her dinner. She taught me exercise routines. We sat and talked a lot.

We even one time cried together. So this isn't fun to have to have that happen to any other human being. I didn't like that. And along those same lines, I was really good friends with faith. So I would say that people I was the closest with in the house were Faith and Leslie. How, you know, how does that happen? I feel like that's not uncommon though because, you are the people that are really bonded from this journey because you've gone the furthest together, right?

And you've been through so much. And I know that, you know, Leslie did say she had nothing but really nice things to say about you, which is nice to see like those friendships continue after everything. But Gary, Leslie did say, you know, she felt you were kind of pulling away or a little bit off on that last date, which we can kind of assume, you know, your heart was pulling you to Teresa in those moments. Was there a specific moment that you really knew, like, I need to end things with Leslie. This is, this is not it for me. So there were, there were conversations in the fantasy suite that were very revealing to me. And quite honestly, because they're in the fantasy suite and are not in front of cameras and microphones, I feel like it's appropriate to keep them in the

fantasy suite and leave that, you know, there. But, but yeah, there were some things that, that we talked about. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast.

Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it, if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say, like, go you go blank yourself, right? It's easy.

It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress, seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just, like, walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy.

Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network, beat. Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro all combined. Conservative podcasts can have a major political impact, but the Myceles Brothers, three siblings with a serious media strategy, are building an alternative to that. On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, I sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up, why audience interaction is the key to pull. political influence and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale, one download at a time. We should be focusing on the issues that actually occupy a lot of the mental space in

Americans' minds but are filled with conspiracies, and we should fill it with the truth and solutions. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And then you had a quick turnaround, obviously, from a really emotionally charged breakup with Leslie to then a proposal with Teresa the next day. How did you kind of transition out of that mindset into feeling excited for your future with Teresa? Because obviously there's just so many emotions, I'm sure, going through your head. There was. But, you know, it's like with every step along the way, reminding myself that this is my journey and what my ultimate goal was, which was to find that one. person that was right for me. And so, yeah, I felt really bad through the course of the night

because of Leslie. But quite honestly, I turned that corner only because of that face right there. I mean, it was in my head. I couldn't get it out. And I realized that I'd walk through hell if I had to to get to her. That the ultimate goal was right there. And I wasn't going to walk away from it and that put me in a much better headspace. Yeah, that's amazing. Wow, look at you, Trisa. You got him. He's, he's whipped, Teresa. Don't say that. He is in love. You're both in love. It's a happy ending. That's what we love to see, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I want to ask you guys a question. So this is the first season of the Golden Bachelor, right? So the first time we're ever seeing this. You're talking to, you know, 20-something and a 30-something-year-old who have found love on this show.

You're both at your second time of finding love. What was different this time around that you were looking for versus when you were looking for your first love? Does that make sense? Makes a lot of sense. I mean, the first time you're looking for your first love, you're looking to start a family. You know, that's a way different dynamic that you're looking for not only a good husband,

but a good father. And this time, I think we're looking for equal partners, someone who will enjoy life with you and who feel has the same philosophy about life as you do. And it's also about really knowing, I think that when I was on this journey, you know, you heard me say so many times, I love you, I kept telling him.

And I did that because I think when you're old, I don't know, or maybe ever, if you feel something, you should say something Because if I didn't give him that information, then he wouldn't have that to know that he had that option with me. So I knew that throughout this journey, I had to be vulnerable and lay it all in on the table just the way he did with every woman. And he did. He really did, really give every woman his full attention. Why did you do that?

Trisa, I think you had, I think you just have the perfect mindset for a show like this. You really do. And I think that that really helped your guys' connection because you were not scared to be vulnerable and put it all out there. And you did it pretty soon. And for someone like Gary, who's dating 20-something women, that really helps you stand out of the crowd. Yeah, you are a very self-assured, confident woman. And you were so vulnerable the whole time. It was very impressive.

And it was really lovely to watch. And I'm glad you two found each other. It was absolutely no insecurities and no jealousies from her. And that also stood out. You know, if you were a keen observer and you watched throughout, that was pretty unique for Trisa to display that. Oh, yeah. And it's hard.

It's hard to do. It's so hard to do. But yeah, that's how I felt. Yeah. Well, what are you guys most excited for now that everything... Yeah, holiday seasons are coming up. Now you guys can spend the holidays with each other. That's got to be special.

To have our families together. Yeah. And yeah, it's been real. Yeah, that's true. I would say the most important thing right now is spend the holidays together. The wedding. Oh, my God. And getting away a little bit from the glitz and glamour and the high profile of the golden bachelor.

And being able to silently slip into normal life and do the kind of. common things. I mean, we haven't grocery shops together. Yeah, right. You know, it's like the little things like that that we kind of look forward to as being fun experiences. Yeah. It's so funny because before going on this show and doing this podcast, if you ask me what like the top three normal couple activities are, I would have never listed grocery shopping. But every couple that comes on here, the first thing they say, and we said it too. We said it too. is oh my gosh we just can't wait to go grocery shopping together but the thing is I eat really

oh my god we eat terribly cool the biggest horror story for me was that first cupcake that went in my mouth yeah and if you look at some guy it works out to me Trisa what are you going to do if they ask you sugar I said Joe just going to eat it so you know first night putting a cupcake in his mouth and can you lick it off I go oh it's all icing No way. And then I didn't know this.

I wasn't aware of it. And then we go to Santa Monica Pier and there's the cotton candy and I'm practically shoving cotton candy. I was going to like this. And like the next day someone told me, you know, she doesn't eat sugar. I go at all. They go, at all. So it's like, oh my God.

So back to the grocery thing. You're going to have to have two separate grocery carts when you go to the grocery store. that's actually similar to us because when yeah when serena came to Chicago after we did get engaged and we were like in hiding she came to Chicago and I I'm Italian and I always order like Italian food and pizza and Serena can't eat cheese and dairy and she didn't want to tell me I'll cheat every once in a while like if we go out to like a really good pizza spot I'll have a piece of pizza but yeah like I won't I don't eat a lot of dairy ever and Joe was ordering an ice cream and buying all this dairy I'm putting making me cheesy omelets and I didn't want to say anything for like the first four months because I would like wake up to this you know really cheesy eggs and I'm like oh thanks so much and eventually I was like babe this has to stop I can't my body can't handle this cheese anymore no you talk about what's the difference between when you're young and old I with my husband my my husband for Billy I wouldn't tell him that I didn't eat these things I tried to hide it too

because I didn't want to seem so strange like okay she doesn't eat this but now I I just feel like, I'm going to influence him on the food card, and he's going to influence me to go to bed earlier because I could have been late. There you go. You can exchange healthy habits. Okay. Before we wrap for part one, I want to ask Teresa this question. What is it about Gary that you can't live without? Oh, I can't live without his heart and his soul and his intellect and his passion and his drive.

Yeah, it's the, maybe the passion. Passion is really, really so important for me in a man. You know, to have passion, you know, not just about life, but anything in particular to get really excited about life and excited about things. I see it in his eyes. I see the way he looks at you. I want to say, Carrie, like, take it easy.

Wait, we're still recording right now. But now, wait a minute. Serena, did you notice that all during that answer, she held her hand like this with a wedding ring and she was explaining things flashing the wedding I think subliminally what she was really saying is I can't live without

Gary's ability to buy me diamond I can't live without Gary or the diamond on my finger equally they're equally as important but she can live without sugar just not Gary or the diamond there we go it's a beautiful ring it's a beautiful ring Bachelor Nation there is still

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