Bachelor Happy Hour - EXCLUSIVE: Guy’s Transformational Golden Journey

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena speak to Guy about his life-changing journey on “The Golden Bachelorette.” During this exclusive conversation with Joan’s runner-up, Guy explains why his connection with Joan was initially a slow burn, how that conversation with Charles impacted both of their lives, and what made him ready to propose to Joan in Tahiti. Plus, Guy discusses what it was like to see Joan at “After the Final Rose,” where he and Chock stand today, and which of the Golden women he is hoping to meet! All this and so much more... Listen now! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No such thing. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here with the Golden Bachelorette runner up. Guy, welcome. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

How are you? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to this, actually. Nice. We're happy to have you. Thank you. What exactly are you looking at?

forward to i you know i guess it's because i've watched some of these podcasts before and i just thought it would be an enjoyable experience to be able to tell my my my side of the story from what i experienced that there's a little different than some of the other men well you're wrong because we're going to grill you now i'm joking it's going to be uh yeah it's going to be fun so let's uh let's get into your the beginning of your journey how did you wind up going on a show like this. Yeah, so I had somebody reach out to me on social media who thought that I would be my profile or that I would be a great candidate to be on the reality TV show called

The Golden Bachelorette. What were you, what are you posting on social media that you think got her attention? I think it had pictures of me and my real life, what do I do on a regular basis. So I tend to put, I don't post a lot, but it's usually things that represent me whether I'm riding my bike in the Swiss Alps or whether I'm riding my bikes on the cobbles, Belgium, whether I'm ice climbing in Alaska or sea kayaking and Prince William Sound. And then also post things with my kids because they did a lot of those things with me. have you always been like an adventurous guy guy i'd say i'd say the answer is yes uh you know back in a former life of mine i've ran over 10 marathons i did a canadian iron man um i did multiple triathlons during a certain phase i eventually then progressed to uh road biking

and i did i absolutely loved road biking and that's why i went to france six times to ride stages and watch the tour to France. I watched Azure d'Italia. I went to Belgium to ride, but it was called the Spring Classics. Those are some of the things I did back in the day. I did other things also, but those were kind of my main states.

I was not, I was, okay, wow, all right. I wasn't expecting this. This is, this is good. This is go. How old, what did you do first? Did you do a marathon first? Yeah. The very first marathon I ever did was,

in New York City Marathon. It was my fourth year in medical school. I was in a rotation of Philadelphia. And on a whim, after staying up until 2 o'clock for Halloween, I got a four-hour sleep. I took a train from Philly to New York. I had no idea what I was doing, but I brought running stuff with me. I thought I'd run five miles. I made my way down to the Barrazzan Narrows Bridge.

I jumped in to run five miles, which turned into 10, which turned into 15, and then I finally said, you know what, let me see how far I can go. I ended up running the whole thing. Yeah. How old were you? I was 27 years old at the time. Do you have, do you have like, what's your best score to date? You mean my how fast I run a marathon?

Yeah. My best was a 327. Wow. Wow. That was a Cal International. I ran my first, I ran my first one last year. I did it. I did it at 350.

and then I was planning I run it this year. I wanted to break, I wanted to break 340, but then I got sick and I just, I had the flu and I couldn't run it. Yeah. I had so many times where I thought, I mean, I thought it was going to run 315s and things like that. But all best made plans always come to an end. And you ran, and you've done an Iron Man? I did. I did the Canadian Iron Man in 1995.

1995, I got into doing triathlons, and I knew I could run. I knew I could get through a bike, even though it's 112 miles, and I'd run marathons. And the hard part was, could I swim 2.4 miles? So I got up, I got up one morning on a Saturday morning. I went down to the indoor pool. I put my wetsuit on. I jumped in the pool, and I swam two and a half miles. without stopping and at the end of it I said you know what I can do this one part now

you know because swimming you don't you can't just stop if you stop you drown so I did that so and that's when I decided to do it in a group of friends and I'm from Reno we all decided to go up and do the Canadian Iron Man where's the Canadian Iron Man they've changed locations but at the time I did it it was in Penticton which is just north of Spokane Washington Okay. What is, okay, this is good. Do you have, I just going to say, do you have a favorite one that you've done out of all the marathons, triathlons, everything? Is that one that stands out to you? Yeah. No question for me, it's the New York City Marathon. I did it three times. And I guess the reason I like, I love New York was, is the amount of energy that there was the largest. And I love that you ran through all five boroughs. So you got to experience this. the music, the culture, the smells. There was over a million people on the streets.

And so you'd run from, you know, Brooklyn and there'd be all reggae music playing to getting into Queens and then have Bruce Springsteen on, you know, and it's just, in different areas. It just had this different feel and flavor. And it was just, and the sport is off the charts, the number of people that are there supporting you all the way and so and I end up doing I ran the New York three times nice okay so let's go let's go to the show okay you you you you're an adventurous guy did you ever think that you would do something like going on the bachelor I had I never even heard of it actually so

you've never heard of you never heard of the show in general I I've never seen an episode I I knew that there was a show. And what I knew about it was, oh, there's a show where the young kids get together. And if you get a rose, that's a good thing. If you don't get a rose, that's a bad thing. And at the end, the young kids hook up. That's the general promise. I was like, I don't know.

And you keep further along to go, the better it is, right? So when they reached out to you about the potential to go on the show, what was your initial reaction? My initial, my honest initial reaction? Yeah, you're honest. My honest initial reaction was when I got reached out, I thought it was BS. I thought the person was just trying to scam me. Then I watched four episodes of The Golden Bachelor, and I said, oh my gosh, this is the

silliest thing I've ever seen. I am not going to do this. however a lot of things changed in my life and I call this just a transformational journey for me and that's over the last 10 months now and you know I started to develop a really good relationship with my kids I decided back in April before I even was accepted that I was going to hang up my stethoscope because I'm an ER physician and I had worked 34 35 years in the same place and I had done everything I wanted to do. a medical director. I was the chief of staff of the hospital. I was at ER doc by trade.

And I was turning 66 and I just thought it's time for me to step aside. And I wanted to go out with game. A lot of times a lot of athletes or whatever, they stick around one year too many. And I wanted people to still respect me for what I did. So I decided to hang it up. And then eventually I started getting happier and happier in my life and that's when I got the call and I still wasn't 100% sure and I said, you know what, I'm going to do this. You know, not really knowing what it was all about

but I thought it would be a great experience to see what it was like behind the scenes. I had no expectations going into the show. When you watched the four episodes of The Golden Bachelor, did any of the women stand out to you? Yeah, it's interesting. because when they were telling me they're going to announce a big reveal

I had watched it and all the women I thought were lovely but the person who stood out and I said in my mind I said it's got to be her or they got to pick somebody new and that her was Joan okay so

let's go to you stepping out of the limo in seeing Joan in person for the first time. What's going through your mind? Are you handling the situation? Are you a nervous wreck? I was nervous, but surprisingly, I never got really nervous during any of the filming. Even the other night with the live live, which I thought I'd be off the charts nervous about. But I really wasn't. But I can tell you, getting out of the limousine, I was nervous mostly because I had already planned on what I was going to say I had written a poem and I was

going to just say it to her. You don't you don't recite a poem correct? I don't and I just I did a thing where I just sprayed different colognes on and she had to pick the one she liked we really liked your entrance I forgot that that was what you did

I don't know about we I really liked your entrance no I liked it too I liked it too when you came out I remember Serena and I were like they have chemistry there's there's there's there's there's something there and you're very smooth with your delivery and yeah it was definitely it was a standout for us it was fun it went oh it went really well uh as well as it could consider i was i was ad-libbing everything um but i think the idea that using

olfactory ascent to try to because i was trying to get her to remember me right that yeah you only had a short period time like she needs to remember me what can i do And I thought, she might find this cute that, oh, he smelled really good. Now I'm going to remember him. And I wore the same, I swore the same clone the whole time I was there, though. When you walked away from her, did you feel good about your meeting with her? I did feel good. I almost heard in the back of my head as I was walking away, and I saw it later.

She said, oh, he's handsome, which I thought was like, okay, that's positive, you know. Yeah, that's a good thing. And she smiled really big when I got out of the limo. So those were two, like, positive things. But she may have done that with every man. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor? or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart

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Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Going into that first rose ceremony, how did you feel? Were you nervous or were you feeling confident? I was nervous every single rose ceremony. I just didn't know what she was really looking for. I didn't know how the process worked. I was crazy nervous.

I can just tell you, at the end of the first rose ceremony, I got emotional. I will say that the reason I got emotional was a culmination in many things. We got to see our family members, and specifically my daughter McKenzie spoke to me on the TV screen. Every guy broke down, including myself. And then I got the rose, the fourth out of this 18 roses. So I was secure very early on, but it gave me time to reflect. And in this row ceremony, it goes a long time. And I started just feeling this overwhelming sense of acceptance.

And it really got me emotional. And then I realized that some of the guys that I'd been close with, even short period of time, they were going home. And you put all that together. And all of a sudden, my eyes start welling up. Excuse me. I said, I said, I said, and so I opened my eyes as wide as I could. I started blinking. You know, I said, just think about something else.

And it just got worse. my sin shins are shivering and quivering and all of a sudden I just felt the tear come down and I thought, oh, gongone it. I said, if I reach up, they're going to notice me and they're going to bring attention. So I said, don't bring attention to yourself. So I just kept doing that. Well, it didn't work because at the end of the night, Jesse said, guy, we notice you got a little emotional because you share that with us.

And I was like, doggone it, Jesse. I was hoping you guys didn't see that. And then I wasn't sure they were actually going to put it on TV. But of course, very first night, there I am. Being the first cry, Barry. Did your kids or your daughter, did they give you any advice prior to going on the show? You know, they were supportive. I did ask them ahead of time.

They didn't give a lot of advice. They just were concerned. And they just said, dad, social media can be brutal. and just be very careful with what you say because things can be taken out of context. They can take a sound bite and manipulate it. And that was the only somewhat advice, you know. So now you're in this, what seems to be a frat house, right? What I called it?

I said, they said, what was the mansion? Like I said, it was a fraternity house on steroids, you know? Yeah. And I also said it was, it was a, it was a, it was. a retreat for sexagenarian men, 16-year-old men who snore and get up in the middle night five times a night. Out of all the guys who were you closest with? Two. And they were roommates. And that would be Charles L. and Gary. Let me send. I got really close with both of them. Gary was on our podcast and he spoke very highly of you. Yeah. We bonded

it the very first night before we even went we got out of the limousine we found that we had a commonality that we both have faith and and we took that and gary actually uh we pray over us before every rose ceremony oh that's so nice you had a really you had a really special moment with charles l when he um talked to you about the passing of his wife yes can you describe that for us Yeah, yeah. It was, I'll tell you, I've done it a thousand times as an ER physician. That's what they do every day is talking to patients and their families about what just happened. But with Charles, it was unexpected. I completely forgot that we had our mics on. So I wasn't thinking much of it other than he said, can I talk about something. I allowed him the opportunity to go over every detail about his wife's passing. During the conversation toward the end, I finally realized Charles is harboring all this guilt that he could have done something different to have saved his wife's life. And I finally, you really don't see it because it went on, there's more editing, but I took him by the shoulders and I looked right in the eyes and I said, Charles, I said,

you did nothing wrong. I said, the paramedics, the ER docs, the neurologist, the neurosurgeons, did nothing wrong. I said your wife passed away from a condition that was fatal the moment it happened. It doesn't matter where she was. But his big thing that he couldn't stop thinking about was, and it hit me again. He goes, but he goes, I don't understand. She bleeding from her mouth. I said, Charles, I said, that had nothing to do with why she passed.

I said, when I said, do remember when she slunked against her shoulder, fell to the ground? I said she either bit her tongue or her cheek. cheek. And that's why there was blood coming from her mouth. He said, he said, nobody ever explained that to me. And he actually got little tears in his eyes. And I don't think they showed this on the show. He got tears inside. And he said, Charles can love again. Yeah. And that was sweet. That's, that was, that was, that was, that was a point in moment. And I still wasn't completely aware of it until later. It was brought to my attention that everybody was listening to that. And then I saw subsequent shows where he talked about it. And that's when

it really hit me. And it hit me because, you know, I've done this for 35 years. And I've known I've had an impact on people's lives by being an ER physician. But for this specific moment, I felt like I had an incredible opportunity. And I was honored to be able to change his life. And a lot of us never get that opportunity. And I had that opportunity with Charles. And that's how, that's how we first bonded. That's nice. Yeah. That's a really healing moment for him, I'm sure. Yes. So you're having these, you know, bonding moments with the guys in the house. You're having a good time. When do things, because, you know, you're the number two guy, when do things get serious between you and Joan? When do you feel like they, they take that, your

relationship goes into that next step? Yeah. You know, Jones and I had a little conversation. I, I would say that she and I have, as she referred to as a slow burn, I was very guarded. I was very skeptical about the whole concept. And so I was not willing to like let it all out like some of the other men might have. And I kind of held back. And so I think by that, maybe she didn't know if I was really as interested. But I let my guard down.

I just told myself, I'm going to give this the opportunity. I believe in the process. Plus, I kept getting happier. Every row of summary, I got happier and happier and happier. And I was doing this journaling. And so I was self-reflecting and I was really getting a good mind space. and so it was probably well it was it was the hometown visit

that's when for me it changed what about that what about what about that hometown so when she announced the four guys you know it was Pascal and Jordan Chalk and I were the fourth I actually turned to the other guys at the room server and I say hate to tell you this

I said but I got hometown advantage and they were like what are you going to do You know, because two of them were from Chicago, you know, I was like, I said, just watch the show. And my hometown could not, at least from my perspective, and I believe from hers also, it could not have gone any better. We spent the morning up at Lake Tahoe, which is I call it in my backyard because it's a 45-minute drive up over the hill. And it was a picture perfect day, glass, not a cloud in the sky, no wind. We went out on the lake. I talked to her in the boat.

I talked to her about all these memories I had. It was a magical day. And then we stopped and we had at one of the restaurants there by the pier. We had some champagne and ate. And then from there, we then got to go meet my family, which I'm the youngest of eight kids. Yeah, Greg Gary Gerald, Gwen Glenn Greer, Gary, a guy. And then she also got to meet my, not all four of my kids. because my second daughter lives in London,

couldn't make it back. But she got to meet my old daughter McKenzie, my grandson, Edon, a son-in-law, Maudi, Glenn, and then Hank. And so I knew that when she was going to meet my sisters and she was going to meet my kids, that she would fall in love with them because they're rock stars.

And they're down to earth. They're fun. They're funny. And I think she adored them. And so by the end of it, we had this final conversation and you know I told her that at that point I opened up more and said I'm falling for you which I had and at one point she got a little teary-eyed and I thought that she was starting

to feel it also and that's I thought that was a breakthrough moment for us were you were you ready after that moment were you ready to get engaged did you did you picture yourself getting down on one knee not at that moment I think that I then had to go to the, um, I had to go to the exotic location. Um, so. Okay. So, you know, you, you go to the exotic location and it's you in, it's you and chalk left. Are you aware of where their relationship status is? Yeah. At the time, I knew, I knew right from the beginning that Chuck was, he was full gas. He, he wanted Joan right from the beginning. Um, I was obviously a little held back much more than he did.

I did a little games with him halfway through the show, but just kind of mess with him. Yeah, it's what you do, just know. But I didn't know that Chuck was as aggressive as I, the way I put it, as he was with his words, his thoughts his actions I was not aware of that because I don't see that I don't see the one-on-one dates I don't see that

so and we as men there was very little discussion about that as to you know what each guy was saying nobody really talked about it yeah that I honestly that checks out so then Joan Joan shows up to your your hotel room and delivers some bad

bad news, but what were you thinking when she got there, what was going through your mind? Can we go back to when we actually had our overnight first? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go overnight. Go go that. Again, when I had my, my overnight date, again, just like my hometown, I thought I had the best. I mean, we got to go out on the catamaran. We went snorkeling. Yeah, you had some good activities overall because your one-on-one day was like the cooking day, which was also a good activity. And it was fun because we got to go out. There was sharks, there was eels.

It was just a really fun, magical time and really enjoyed that. And then that evening we had a really nice, pleasant, beautiful dinner overlooking the water. And then we eventually made our ways to the overnight bungalow. And she had said that had the time, as everybody knows, that she wasn't going to sleep. with anybody, which I gave her kudos for because I said, do you have four kids? I have four kids. I said, they don't want to see us waking up in our pajamas. Okay. I said, there's time for all that at this age, you know, like, because I already felt the chemistry. It was just, you know, but I just, I didn't want to make her uncomfortable. My kids uncomfortable. And I mostly I wanted

to be very respectful. I asked her permission to kiss her first two times. I didn't just like, make the assumption. And so maybe I should have been a little more aggressive with that. But so I had a wonderful one-on-one day. We talked about a lot of really heavy stuff without cameras and audio going on. And that's when, and that was my, my MO for it. I said, you do not need any surprises six months down the road. I will tell you everything about my life.

You ask me, do you have any questions? Let me know. And stuff I even volunteered that she probably didn't even want, but I felt like I needed to tell her so that she wasn't surprised. It would be disrespectful to her and to the whole process and to the show. Because I think having watched some of the other ones, I've gone, why did they not talk about these things? I talked about relocating where I am in my life, retirement.

How can we make it work? How do we make our kids mel together? How do you see day-to-day activities span? We were living in fantasy land up until that point. And now let's talk about reality. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.

And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK. Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics.

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See? Listen to No Such Thing on the I Heart Radio. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Did you guys have a conversation that there was still another guy there that Chalk was there? I never had conversations

about the other men. And I saw something like during when I watch a show that Chalk talked about that all the time. For me, I will tell you, Joe, is that it was all about, for me, is Joan my person and am I Jones person? That was the only question that needed to be answered. I was not there.

I did not see it as competition. This was not who wins. This was, did the two of us see ourselves having a life together? That was the question that needed to be answered. So I never worried about that, well, she might like chalk. She might like Pascal. Never even, I can honestly say never cross my mind. I said, she either likes me for who I am and what I represent.

And if that's, if that's meant to be, then she'll pick me or we'll get together. At what point were you sure that you wanted to propose to Joan? Yeah. after the fantasy sweet night that whole day and that night that's when I said

okay we talked about everything we've covered all the important variables that you need to talk about really as an adult and then I journaled

and I just said you know what I feel great I am ready to do this I am ready to get down on the knee I was I was ready that day to talk to her kids. I was so excited to see our kids

because I thought they'd love me. Competence. But I just felt this, I felt like we had so many similar interests and values that it was like, this is going to work. I mean, that's when I really said, this is going to happen. And I was going to ask her kids for their blessing.

You know? And I wanted to have. bad. I wanted to see real emotion from her children like, we've really like you, not like he seems like an okay guy. I mean, I wanted to really

know me, my family, what I represent. But unfortunately, I never had that opportunity. Yeah. So let's talk a little bit about that. So she knocks on your

on your door, you let her in, you know, You're in good spirits. Yes. Break down that situation for us. Yeah. So unexpectedly, the knock comes on the door. And I open it and there she is. Well, I should have been thinking, oh, this is not good.

But I was just so happy to see her. And I was excited. And then we're talking. I show her around and then we sit down and we start to talk. And I was actually hoping that she was about to tell me. you know what I've thought about this and I think that you're my guy and I'm going to let the other guys go. That would have been nice. That was what I was thinking for two-thirds of it.

Then she got this look on her face and then you can see my facial expression go from a smile to a foreign-lawing look. And I said, oh, this is about to come. And then when she said, my heart lies was, she told me how wonderful I was. She told me every characteristically, you know, like you were, there's nothing wrong with you. But my heart lies with somebody else. And then that's when I got really emotional because I was so, from that morning, I had, during an interview, I had said, I'm going all in. I'm getting on a knee. I'm going to propose.

I'm going to ask for a hand in marriage. I was like convinced and it went 30 minutes. That balloon first and it was over. It was over. And so that's why. And I'm very emotional guy to begin with. And when I decided I was going to be all in, that was devastating. It was heartbreaking to me.

And yeah, you can see it. I mean, they were very kind to me. sobbed for minutes. It wasn't just like 10 seconds or something. I just could not stop sobbing because I was so convinced that I was the guy and this was going to happen and I was so happy and for it to have come to that conclusion was so difficult. And then, you know, so we finished up. But I made the point to tell her because she felt awful. And never do I ever want Joan to feel bad because i i love joe i absolutely love her i i know now after months i will always love joan i just can't be in love with joe yeah and so i i i didn't want her to feel bad never will i ever

throw her under the bus ever because she has a heart of gold she is a wonderful woman um i can't i can't I can't think or say anything negative about her. And I say that was sincerity. And so I even said to her, I said, Joan, I said, please don't worry about me. Don't worry about me. I'm going to be okay. But, you know, we've all been through difficult times in our life. So I knew that I'd be able to handle it.

I wouldn't happy about it. It took time, but I knew I would get through it. And I'm still in that point. process because when I watched the show to see everything last night, it was a little more difficult than I anticipated. I was going to ask if watching the season back and seeing her relationship with chalk, did that help bring you any sense of closure or even clarity? It made me understand what his MO was and it made me question myself, should I have been a little more aggressive but I

can only say and do what was true to my heart I was not going to say things prematurely I wasn't I could not be all in at the beginning and I just there's certain things I just couldn't do because I got to be true to myself I got to be true to my heart if not I am doing her disservice that's disrespectful to her but

so yeah so so where So currently to date, where are you now with everything? You know, I will say that I, even though I didn't win, I won. I won. And what I mean by that is she allowed me to have that transformational journey. One of those that she taught me that she allowed me to realize that I can truly love again. I can that passionate love again and she did that the bachelor show gold match red show did that allowed me that opportunity with with everything that went on and I and I will thank them forever for

that because they changed my life she changed my life how was seeing Joan at the um finale the other night you know I I was mentally prepared because because I just, I wanted to see her as happy to see her. I didn't, she did say some things that, that even on TV, that made me question her decision. But, you know, I, she picked Chalk. She's got to go with her heart. I mean, that's her decision.

I can't make that decision for her. He's a great guy. you know um i i i really like chalk you know um so and we were roommates what's harder going on the golden bachelorette or being an er doctor i can tell you probably for the most part it was going on the golden bachelorette really well only the reason i say that is there was a couple times where i was like so nervous i said I'd rather be taking care of two cardiac arrest patients at one time. I said, I'm not patting myself on the back, but I'm a really, really good ER doc.

I can make split-dust. I know what I need to do, split-second decision immediately, you know, and I'm pretty good at that. And I did it for 35 years. And so I was more comfortable in that environment, right? Maybe if you did 35 seasons of the Golden Bachelorette, then it would be a lot easier. But hopefully that never happens because the goal is to do as little as possible. I wouldn't mind doing one more.

Let's just say that. Oh, would you do it again. Oh, absolutely. A heartbeat. Not a question. How was the after party and seeing all the guys again, seeing chalk, seeing? And then there's rumors there was, you know, the Golden Bachelor women were also there. yeah did we meet anyone um it was great i love seeing all the other guys i was really looking

for it to that because i didn't get to go on you know men tell all so i didn't see them um the other women i got to meet some of the women they were wonderful really wonderful i didn't get to meet all of them i really wanted to meet nancy and i never saw nancy because i thought she was a sweetheart when she was so supportive of joan um you know at the very end yeah and so I didn't get the opportunity, but the rest of it was fantastic. And even getting to meet some of the younger bachelors and people that were on the bachelorette, I'm going, okay, I am part of Bachelor Nation now. You are. You really are.

Well, we love Nancy. Are you going to, are you going to shoot your shot? Because I believe she's single. I, you know what? I have messaged her. We exchange messages a few. nothing of any substance, you know. So, and I thought if she was really interested,

she maybe would have sought me out that night. But I didn't realize she was there. Well, we did hear from our producer that Nancy wasn't the party, but she was sick. So she went home early, but maybe you guys will have a chance to connect. And if you see her, you have to shoot your shot with her. I will absolutely, she looks, she seems like a wonderful woman. She presents herself extremely well.

So, yeah, I'd like the opportunity to speak with her. Is there anyone else either in Bachelor Nation or any golden celebrities that you would be interested in meeting? He's got somebody lined up in there. You mean in the Bachelor Nation? Yeah, or just anyone. Any celebrities that you have a crush on that? Oh, celebrities, yes. Yeah.

Like a Hollywood crush? Sure, yeah. Who's your celebrity crush guy? That was an easy question for me to answer, and it's Diane Lane. Diane Lane. Diane Lane. She is, I have had a crush on her. I think it was the outsiders.

She just seems to be, she's a natural beauty. I don't obviously know her, but she just seems like a really smart woman down to earth. she seems she seems like natural she's not this made up type of a movie star and she is i think she's 59 or 60 so she's age appropriate like i didn't my crush isn't somebody 30 years old it's somebody that i could actually feel like i could actually go on the date with um and and and i know that she's i don't know if she's dating but i know she's not married anymore he was married to one of the Brolin brothers. And that happened about 10 years ago.

So I thought, Wow. There's my shot. There's your chance. So Diane Lane, if you're out there, I said, you know,

if you want to meet a nice ER doc, you know, that's not your typical Hollywood guy, I'm your man. There we go. Well, I mean, fingers trust for you guys.

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