Bachelor Happy Hour - Exclusive: In Her Healing Era with Kylee Russell | ‘Golden Hour'

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are here with “Bachelor in Paradise” star Kylee Russell! She is kicking off this episode hot as we dive right into all things Kylee, including some dating updates. Then, we ask Kylee to help answer some of your questions. Plus, we find out what’s next for her.  Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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check out all of our past episodes. We've been having a lot of fun. We answer your questions, so keep your questions coming to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. We have some great questions today that we'll get into with our very, very special guest. Today, only today, our Bachelor Nation star, Kylie, Russell is here. Hi, Kylie. Thanks so much for joining us. We're so excited to be chatting with you. I have so many questions. We don't know where to begin. You're adorable. Thank you. Thanks, ladies. I am so excited. I have been dying to meet you. So just to get to talk to you today, I am kind of freaking out inside. Lots to cover. But I'm so excited to be talking about it with you. And then hopefully get some advice from my big sisters. Oh, big sister. You hear that Susan? Big sister.

Okay. First, Kylie, I want to tell you, the three of us have something in common. So I listened to your podcast. with Serena and Joe and we'll get into that in a bit but Susan the three of us have a lot in common she loves Christmas when I was on the Golden Bachelor that was one of the things I said I was obsessed with Christmas but more importantly more importantly she loves tequila my favorite drink am I right and Susan are you ready and guess what else Susan she loves all things Italian. He loves Italian food. Are we sisters or are we sisters? You'll love Mimi's meatballs then. I was about to say, I need to try your meatballs, Susan. And then I definitely think her sisters definitely separated at birth. So let's get together. Are you Italian? I'm not Italian. I think

always the first question someone asks me when they meet me is like, okay, Kylie, what are you? Because my look is so ambiguous. But my mom is fully white. And then my dad is half black, half Cherokee. So I'm a little bit of a mutt. No wonder you're beautiful. You are gorgeous. Thank you so much. It's always a good conversation starter. So you live in San Diego, yes?

I live in San Diego. I moved there back in February with Jess from the show. I'm actually in North Carolina. I'm visiting my family right now. Are you in Charlotte? Are you in Charlotte? I'm in Charlotte. Yes, born and raised here.

Told you. I did my research. My ex-husband's from Charlotte. Oh, no. If I see him, I'll give him. not give him the evil eye. That's what you're good friends. He lives here now, but that's where he's born and raised.

But yeah, no, definitely going to settle back in Charlotte one day. So tell me about life in San Diego. That's like the best climate on the universe, I swear. Oh, my God. It is literally paradise on earth. The only thing that kind of would not allow me to stay there forever is because my family is back in Charlotte. But San Diego has been great to me thus far.

I enjoy my work so much there. still a postpartum nurse. So I take care of all the new mamas and babies. I was impressed you got on the day shift when you moved there. Can you tell me about that? I want to say I'm a unicorn because you are a unicorn. So I want so I know I know you love taking my daughter had a baby in the NICU for and and the postpartum nurses. Let me just hats off to all of you out there. You guys are amazing. You don't you know you know what a new mother. is like, and you guys do an admirable job. So the next time I have a baby, which will be the 12th of never, I'm coming to you.

In her next life. In your next life, I will take such good care of you, Kathy. Okay, we got to get to the big tea here, though, because we got a lot to cover. I want to know about it. I want to be caught upon your daily life. I know, because I listened, that you told Joe and Serena that the door was still open for you and. Even. is it this information is still very um new and raw and this has been something this has been the first

platform or even really the first big conversation i've had about this so i might get a little emotional so we're here for you we're here for you we will be your big sisters yeah it's just a lot it has been a six month period post show to unpacked and i don't even know if mentally i'm fully like kind of settled with it, but I'm going to do the best I can today. So recently, Avan and I decided to part ways. So we'll start by saying the door is closed. There's a lot. He's gone forever.

And that's something I'm still coping with. That's a big reason why I'm here with my family just because, like I said, it's been a year of him and I. But the six months post me finding out of his infidelity. It has just been so hard. And although everyone, especially on the internet, has told me, Kylie, like, you deserve better. It's time to walk away. That's still a lot easier said than done. Especially when you love someone so much, like I did Aven.

And so I think right now I'm just in my healing era and trying to find the ability just to kind of have my own life in Sandy. which is Kylie, her being single and just kind of settling with myself and being by myself. I want to say when I listened to you talking on Serena and Joe's podcast, a couple of things I just want to say. And I said this before. I said it to Susan because she listened to most of it, but missed this part. You said that, you know, the drawer, if he could do the work, you said all these things and I said to Susan she doesn't know it yet but the door is closed did I not Susan you said you said and you you could you just didn't know it yet um but we are happy for you that you are a mature beautiful lady and the fact that you've made a decision that works for you

is I mean what else can you say yeah it's going to take time to heal yeah I wish like that I think what I've been saying to everyone, I wish I could close my eyes and blink to a couple of months ago, a couple of months from now, excuse me, because I just want to, I want to be healed already. I'm tired of being sad. But I know that just takes time. This is my first ever heartbreak. I've never been in love before or honestly had a real relationship. How old are you again, Kylie, 26? 26. Kylie, would you mind sharing what happened? Yeah. So after finding about infidelity, I was like, okay, I don't think I can be with this man any longer. Was it just a one-time fling or was it a relationship? So post finding out, it was a period of us just trying to mend that trust back and to kind of get back to where we wanted.

work. And I will say in the beginning, he was doing the work. He was going to therapy. He was ensuring that my move to San Diego went smoothly. And he was there for me and he was providing for me. And it was great. But I'll be 100% honest. I'm human. And there was still a small part of me that was holding back. I wanted, yeah, it was a trust. Yeah. And so I was hoping, I was like, can you please just give Grace, like, I know I can get to where I was before. I just need time. And then also, too, I was in this mental battle of moving to a new place. I want to say that I moved for myself and for the new experience, but a big part of my reason behind the man was for him, of course. And so I was trying to cope with the fact that I was miles away from my family, not knowing

one. I was starting a completely new job. I was just simply trying to get my footing plus battling with mending a relationship that was so broken. So I was just on the outside, I was like, okay, I'm good. It's fine. But on the inside, I was really battling with a lot. And I didn't think it was noticeable, but unfortunately, it kind of took a toll on him in a sense of I'm putting And he felt as though he was putting in all of this work, but a lot of what I was doing wasn't reciprocating all the love that he was giving me, if that makes sense. It makes total sense. Yeah.

So about a month ago, we had a big, tough conversation, him kind of expressing to me, hey, I'm doing all this. I want this to work, but I still feel like you're holding back. I don't know if this is going to work anymore. I think that was kind of my like punch in the gut like oh my good I was thinking wake up call

I was thinking wake up call if you want to be with him you need to be with him you need to really put things into gear and try to make this work and give him 100% like he's been giving you and so that was actually

our one year or one year from meeting from Paradise was that week and we had already planned like a little yeah we had already planned like a little get away to Malibu. And so I was like, Avan, I know you're pretty close off right now, but please just give it some time. Let's go to Malibu. Let's see if we can kind of rekindle what we've lost. We had a great time in Malibu. I honestly feel as though I felt like I did when I was first meeting him. Three weeks after that, like it was really, really good. I was so excited. Like I almost

had that giddy feeling back. And another thing that I was mentally kind of going back and forth with, is at some point I have to make this relationship public again. And what was holding me back from that, it was like, I know the public scrutiny that's going to come from doing that. And so before I do that, I need to know for a fact, he's my man and I'm sticking beside him. You're saying this is, it's either in or out because we can't go back and do the same. Yeah, yeah. Right, right, yes, ma'am.

And so I was, that three weeks, I was thinking, sorry, no, no, it's just so it's not, it's not because. Because you're old. I just mouth to everyone who's leading. I said, she called me, ma'am. I mouth that. She said exactly what all beautiful young. And trust me, this girl is gorgeous. By the way, can I just say, I don't want to interrupt, but I just want to say, if this is what you look like grieving a relationship and in your healing error, I want to find a guy just to break up with him because you are glowing. You are beautiful. You are, no, truly. You are gorgeous. I'm Jemail Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents.

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And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.

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I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us. That's us. My name is Curley.

And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the My Coutura Podcast Network, available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I do have a personal question, though. Sometimes you can forgive somebody. The trust.

Right. Was it in your head you were thinking, I couldn't handle him making a fool out of me again and doing it a second time? Are you talking in regards to like making a real? relationship public again, why I was kind of weary. Because it's different dating in public. It's a whole different thing. Certainly. Well, I will say, I do have a little bit of PTSD because the last time I'm at public with him, my world literally shattered in front of me.

I definitely 100% trusted him and still trust him now just because I saw the shift in energy that you was giving. And I honestly think his world was rocked so badly with everything that he would ever do not only to me, but to anyone else. So I, um, so the three weeks went great. I was like, okay, I'm about to go public with him. I need to prove to him. Even though like I feel like I didn't necessarily, it wasn't really my responsibility to

prove to him, but I was like, I want to make this work. And so, right, it was fourth of July week. So this is really fresh. And I was so excited because Jess was going, um, home back to Florida. And so I was going to be in San Diego basically by myself. And I was like, we're going to have the best week together. Like, it's going to feel like normal. And I went to Austin, Texas with some of the Bachelor girls.

So I get back from Austin, Texas. And I could just feel like this like energy shift, this membership. He was acting very dry. He just wasn't himself. So I get home. We have a big, long conversation. And he chose to in thanks. He said,

Okay, we're both sitting there with our mouths hanging open. Yeah, no, I'm going to get a little emotional. I know, but it's okay. It's okay. It's okay, honey. It's okay. Yeah, crying's good for you. I just, it's still so fresh.

Are you shocked? Yeah. I honestly, I honestly was, so, yes, I was a little shocked. Just because we had this, we had the same conversation about a month ago, but then we were doing so good. And he kept emphasizing in the month that we were doing so well, like, honestly, Kylie, like, I see things going far with us. It's starting, it feels like it did back then. So I was shocked.

I, yeah, it was definitely a tough conversation. I don't really want to speak for him, for him, but basically what he had to say was some days he felt he would wake up and he would think he had such great hope for us, think that we could get. to where we needed to be to have a forever future together. And then other days he woke up and he was just like, there's so much damage that I have done personally. I don't think our relationship will ever recover from that. And he said that I didn't deserve someone who was unsure about me. And that's why he was taking a step back.

So I was screaming crying through him up. I booked a flight to North Carolina to see my mom because when you're sad, the one person you want to. I always need your mom. And so a couple days later, I am still in the healing process. But I will say there were days where I was like, I don't know how I'm going to survive this. Like this pain and this hurt is so heavy. But just looking back at those days and how I'm feeling currently, I'm like, I can do this.

Yes. That's what I want to hear. You can. You can. You can. Look at us. We just said in unison, Kylie, you can. And you will.

Time heals. It does heal. And you've learned. Have you learned? Let me ask you this. I can see the hurt as beautiful as you are. I can see you're hurting. And I'm so sorry you're hurting.

And it's easy to say, it's easy to say time will heal. I look at you and my daughter at her heartbroken, almost very identical, almost identical to you. So, you know, I makes me almost start crying because I remember what she went through. And she's happily married now. So, you know. but do you feel like you learned enough that you can move on in a way that made it all valuable? Because I hope that's the case. Absolutely.

I think there is a reason and a purpose for everything. Like I said, this was, I think I learned how to love. I've never really been with someone who I've given my everything to. And I was always scared because in my past like situation, relationships or things, I felt as though I was constantly looking for something or someone a little bit better. So I was like, am I always going to have that feeling? Like, am I ever just not going to settle down? Like, that scares me. And I said, I'm in time again with Avin. It was like Justin Bieber, the love of my life, who I've loved since I was a child, if he came up to me and I was with Avin at that

time, I probably would have been like, no, Justin Bieber. I don't want you. I'm with Avan Jolz. So you felt real love. That's what it is. Yes. You know, I hope that you settle on the, I hope you think about all the positives, the, you know, the family you have that loves you, the people who love you, the future you have. I know that all probably sounds trite right now. It does, yeah. Right.

It's when you're hurting. Nothing. Yeah, nothing makes it easier, I will say. But like, what if Justin called you now. Oh, my God. Well, he's with Haley. He's not being a dad. So I might have to be able to someone else.

But I find strength in knowing that just a couple of days ago, I was barely able to get on bed. I didn't want to talk to anyone. Like, I just wanted to be by myself and my thoughts. And here I am today. Like, I put makeup on. I'm talking to you guys. So, like. You are a beautiful young woman with a good head on her shoulders.

And I will tell you before, because I had written all these questions after listening to your podcast, I was enthralled by you and your story and you were so mature. And I thought, oh my gosh, I can't wait to meet this beautiful young lady. And here you are, and I will say to you, based on what I have listened to and heard you say, it's probably not going to make you feel better, but I promise you, honey, you are going to be fine. You are going to be, you are going to survive triumphantly. You are going to move forward in a life. You will. And you will. I mean, you go through anger, tears, depression, you know, and then you get stronger. We all have gone through it, that broken hearts, that is, you know, and you're going to heal.

I remember my first love, do you, Susan? Yes, absolutely. And Aiden was your first love, right? Her first real love, that's what she said. Your first real love? Oh, it was. My first real love, I would say. Yeah, you will always carry a piece of them with you, and that it's going to make you a richer, lovely human being.

It's just, you know, you take these pieces in your life and it fills your heart. I hate to use this expression, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger? You're going to be a lot stronger. At the end of the day, he has caused a lot of hurt in my life. I always say even since like the beginning when we were in paradise together and I so was like longing for him just to make that commitment to me and he couldn't. And just after that, it's been a ripple effect. but I don't have any hate in my heart towards him

I know he's a good person and I know he wants to be a good person and he'll be that person for someone else just not me and I like I wish him nothing but the best do you truly it's it do you truly believe I know today do is it truly the door is shut

like there's no there's no I just I just think I mean never say never but at this point there has just almost like what he said there has been so much damage that's done and we both in different um portions of the relationship have like given it our all and unfortunately it wasn't reciprocated back um so i just i don't see a world where that happens but like i said everything happens for a reason so if later down the road we find our ways back together then great but if it was meant to be if it was meant to be if it was meant

meant to be. Some people say it'll be, but right now you do you. You heal and you do you. Yeah, I am right. Like, I'm a fish. I'm so excited because I feel like my San Diego experience so far has been consumed with like our relationship. But I want to genuinely enjoy San Diego and build a life for myself out there and my own life. So I'm excited to kind of hit the ground running with that. So I want to know, did your family like him? my family was obsessed with him prior to everything happening and then even after the fact

my mom especially was obviously she was kind of hurt because she saw how her I was but she was still his biggest cheerleader because she knew at the end of the day how happy he made me and how much I loved him so although she didn't necessarily agree with all of the things that he had done

she was willing to kind of move past that if I was willing to move past it. And how is she right this moment? Can she? She is very sad for me. I feel so bad for her because I'm like, mom, I've taken like 10 years off of your life from all the things I put you through because she felt like when I'm sad,

she feels it so deeply. We do as parents. I know. And me being so far away from her, she's just like, I can't be there. So she's like, if you want to come home right the second, we'll figure out a way. Like if you, it's unbearable for you to live there, you can come back home.

But I don't want, I want to do this for myself. I don't want to live in. And you know what? That's going to stretch you. And Aidan, I mean, San Diego's big enough place. You don't need to run into each other, right? Exactly. Exactly.

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Today, we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people. The diva of the people. I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out, that the stove is hot. Go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself.

Okay. That's us. That's us. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbrates, men, and, of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Tura podcast network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Do you have plans?

I know you want to make the most of it and those are all great catchphrases. You know, I'm going to live my best life and all that. Are you actively going to make plans of things you can do to rebuild your life? And tell me about that. Or just take it a day at a time. Yeah. So I think right now I'm taking it minute by minute, not even a day at a time.

But I do want to go back to school and get my master's. I plan to do that. I was going to become a nurse practitioner. So I'm jumping back into school to do that. I want to do midwifery school so we're going to actually deliver the babies myself. So that's kind of take a toll on my social life. But I'm very excited to kind of build my career. I think at some point I'm going to have to put myself back out there relationship-wise.

That was my next question. Yeah. When do you think that will be? That's on the back. burner right now. Time's on your side. Yeah. Time is on your side, Kylie. Yeah. I also am on the South though. So it's kind of you get married early. You have kids early and that's just what you do. So I want that. But now you're a surfer girl in San Diego and the rules are different out there. Now I'm on the West Coast so I can have babies later. But would you ever go

back on Paradise. Oh my God. Okay. So I saw the announcement that it's coming in 2025. I know. I thought it was going to be a golden one. Geez. I know. Okay. You guys can enjoy. Like you can Oh, yeah. Susan, can you see this? Kathy with a one piece. I'll be a, you know, a one piece that has a skirt of tap. So no one has to look at my thighs. And this girl in her adorable bikini. Oh, God, that would be a horror show. I don't even know what you're talking about. But I will say when I saw that. I lived, despite everything, I lived my best life in paradise. And if they asked me to go back tomorrow, I would pack my bags and I would take a flight to Mexico and live my best life once again.

So I would definitely go back if asked. Good. I think this girl, you may feel like you're living minute to. minute but you know what your answer just told me you have a heart and you want to share it with someone i like it i like it i like it okay well she's going to paradise susan you and i you and i'm going to be a chambermaid and you're going to be like a prep in the kitchen and and there it is i just have to ask did you get a new hairstyle i did so i cut my hair she is officially a new woman like six inches A baggage that was weighing down is no longer there.

So I think this is just a fresh start to my new life. I love it. Absolutely amazing. And any man, any man is going to be begging to get your attention. Thank you, Susan. You are truly beautiful. All right, we do this thing where we get some questions and then we give some advice. Will you join us?

Will you give your advice? I would love to. Ladies and gentlemen, advice with Kylie. There we go. All right. Here we go. This first one is from Tracy. She's 41 from Seattle, Washington. Hello, Kathy and Susan. And Kylie. I recently started dating a new guy and he's everything I've wanted for so long. The thing is, he's 29 and I'm 41. We have been together for six months and have met each other's family and friends and it's all gone better than all my past relationships have gone. But my concern is we might be on different timelines for having kids and getting married.

He's a serious guy when it comes to dating and seems ready to find the one. I just would need to move very quickly if kids are in our future. I've always dreamed about being a mom, but I'm not sure if it's too early to bring that up since we've only been together six months. I also don't want to waste either of our time. Let me know if you have any thoughts or advice on how. how I should go about this. Thank you so much. Go, Kylie.

What do you think? That's juicy. So my first thing is age is just a number. If he makes you happy and checks all of your boxes, why not? I will say you don't, like you said, you don't want to waste your time or his time. So it's important to have these conversations because they're big conversations. And they could set the trajectory of your relationship. So kind of just rip the bandaid off girlfriend, ask him those questions, even though it's

It's going to be a little bit nerve-wracking. But they've only been dating six months. But six months is a while. You get to know somebody in six months. Yeah. What are your future plans? Right. Yeah.

Susan, who married my son and his wife back in March, officiated it, they talked about everything on the first date. First date. First date? Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot.

There you go. Six months is a lot. And they're married. They should have that conversation. She doesn't want to waste six more months with him, and that's not something he's wanting. So I say have it. I do too. Yeah, because I guess if he doesn't want kids, we're all in agreement.

Big C, Tracy, communicate. All right. The next one's from Nora. She's 32 from Switzerland, San Diego. Do you know where that is? I don't. I think she's dual. I think she lives in Switzerland, part time and San Diego part time.

Oh, that would make sense. Okay. Hi, Golden Gals. husband and I have been together since 2017 and we got married in 2019. I am originally from Switzerland and we live in San Diego now, which is where we met. I was here for university. When we first met, got married, I thought I would be okay living in the U.S. with him for the rest of my life. But now I'm feeling really called to move back to be close to my family. My sister just had her first baby, and I feel like I'm missing everything. I also can't imagine not having

kids near them. My husband has always said he can't move overseas due to his work, and now we are in a real bind. We love each other very much, but we can't seem to come to an agreement on where to live. I know people say to talk about this before getting married, but I was younger then and have just changed my mind about being so close to my family. Do you have any advice on what I should do? No one has technically given an ultimatum. But if I move, that will likely be the end of our marriage. Any thoughts are appreciated. Wow. That's hard. That's your person. I know. I love with him. Yeah. Go home and visit once in a while. Yeah. Yeah, but I know from experience, Susan, because Avin and I

had this battle because I wanted to live in Chariwa and he never saw him moving from the West Coast. And so I just kept thinking that, okay, we're going to be together. He's going to love me enough to want to do that. And so I You did. That's what you were thinking deep down.

Then were your real thoughts? Yeah, I was like, yeah, if he loves me enough, he would. And she already made that sacrifice to live in San Diego and moved to the States with him for a little bit. Why can't he make that sense? Oh, no, no, no, no. He's from Sydney. They met there. She's from Switzerland

went to school there. Now her daughters had her sisters had a baby. She was she's, it's kind of like you really. And he can't go because of his career. This is the Kylie show, except that she's married to this guy and he doesn't want to. You know what I say? I think I think they got married young and they didn't really think it through. But that's past. Like, what does she do now? That's what she's asking. Well, Kylie.

Go home. If you love him enough, you'll stay right by his side, right? Yeah. I don't really have any advice for her because I was literally her. And I moved. And I moved. But I was struggling with the fact in a couple of years when I started a family of my own. I want to be near my family.

I want my parents to help raise my kids. So I think you guys are both living. I think you're both living in a dream world. I think many marriages have broken up because the wife, you know, one or the other is like, I love this. You know, like you just said, Kylie, you've lived in San Diego for a time, but you want to be back in Charlotte. And there's nothing wrong with that. I just don't think she gave it enough thought.

She was young. She was 19. She's now 32. She got married very young and people change. I don't know. I was away with Dickie when he was playing ball. We had our children in Texas. And you moved back to Philly.

And you moved. I wanted to be home with my family. And she got divorced. Not for years later though. Well, she's 32. She met this guy when she was 19 and now they're divorced. You know, I don't know. You know what my husband and I did, Kylie?

We didn't live in either place. My husband was from New York. state. I was from Massachusetts. He was a military officer initially, so we moved around. And that's how we got to Texas. He went to grad school in Boston, and we picked a place that neither of us had ever lived. And can I tell you? It's kind of fair. It was fair, but I missed so much of my family. I missed out on so many things. I did. But he's the love of your life. It's a choice. It's hard. And I made that choice, but I'm just saying you miss, you know, you can't have it. Kathy, do you regret it at all?

No, no, I don't. But I'm being honest, it's, you know, we're not living in, you know, Disneyland here. I did, I did miss him. I mean, I did miss my family. I don't wish that on anybody. I don't know what's the color. Look at you, Kyla, you made that move mostly for him because of him. But now you're standing on your own two feet.

You're getting more of your career off the ground. Yes, ma'am. And you're going to be a nurse practitioner. Go to school. Figure it out. Yep. I want you, because Susan and I are the czars here, we want you to focus on building. You're already beautiful.

You don't have to work on that. You're beautiful inside and out. Build your life. Go to school. Live your life. I'm getting goosebumps because I know what your future is. I know what your future is. It's going to be amazing.

It's going to be amazing. I appreciate it. I want you to come back when Susan and I are in wheelchair is still doing this podcast and tell us, I want you to name your first child, Kathy, and your second one, Susan. You guys are going to be invited to the wedding. I don't know. To do the wedding. I'll appreciate the wedding.

Susan is officiating. And Kathy, you're going to be one of our drives. So I have one more question for you. Is there anything that you'd like to say from here to Bachelor Nation before we go? Yes. What would you like them to know? Yeah. So first of, I just want to thank Bachelor Nation because they have stuck by my side through everything.

And they've kind of given me that tough advice that I needed to hear, even though sometimes I didn't necessarily want to hear it. I know I can sometimes be annoying on television with all of the tears and the back and forth. but they've stuck beside me and for that I'm forever grateful I hope this is not the last of what you see of me Bachelor Nation and I hope that one day you'll get to see that happy

ever love story that I think I deserve. You do deserve Can I just say you deserve happiness you deserve love on the Golden Bachelor that was the whole thing everyone deserves love do you hear me Kylie everyone deserves love

and to be loved so we're rooting for you. And unfortunately, that's going to do it for this episode. I love talking with you. We love talking to you. But that does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. And Kylie, really thank you so much. You gave great advice. And really thank you for sharing your story and letting, being so truthful and honest. It's just you're a lovely, lovely person. We love getting the chat with you. And you know what? We're very proud of you. Thank you. I'm so appreciative of you. And thank you for all of the advice as well. Absolutely. And thank everybody for joining us today. And make sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour

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