Bachelor Happy Hour - Exclusive: Joey and Kelsey Happily Ever After, Part 1

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

The engagement bells are ringing on today's Bachelor Happy Hour! We are sitting down for an exclusive chat with our newest Bachelor Nation couple, Joey and Kelsey. Coming right off the Bachelor finale, we're getting all the behind-the-scenes details on their love story, from the first look out of the limo to the moment Joey put a ring on it! Plus, we get the deets on the experience of watching their journey back together. Listen now to hear all this and more, and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I'm Serena. And we are here with the happy couple. Joey and Kelsey are here. Welcome. Well, Joey, welcome again. Kelsey, this is our first time having you. So welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thank you so much.

I'm so excited. Yeah. This is good. How do you guys feel? You guys feeling good? Everything's good. You're happy. You're still in love or do you hate each other yet?

No. You speak first. Go ahead. No, I am so happy. I'm just so excited to be able to, you know, flaunt our love and show everybody how happy we are. Yeah, it's been a long time coming. These are always some of my favorite interviews of the season

because we've obviously been in your shoes as a couple that, like, met on the show and had to do the whole, like, keep it on the down low situation for a bunch of months. So I feel like it's always fun for us to be like one of the first people to talk to you guys after it's all out and you can finally be together and announce that you're in a relationship. Like how does it feel? I mean, it feels great. As you said, you know what it's like to be waiting and you just you look forward to this moment. You like picture it. But now that it's finally here, I always say it feels like it's like a weight off your shoulders.

So we finally get the ability to be a normal couple, enjoy the small things, the things that we've been looking forward to. Even just ride in the same car. Like we're just excited for like all the little things especially. Yeah, we were we were in Toronto and we just like we went to we just went to like some random bar and sat outside and had beers and like appetizers and it was awesome. A luxury. It feels like so luxurious to do like anything together afterwards. So yeah. But we'll get into all of your exciting future plans and what you're going to do now that you're out and about a little later.

because we have so much to break down in this episode, so much to unpack. Joe, where do you want to start? Kelsey, because you haven't been on this podcast. Let's start with your chat with Leslie because we were watching that and we were kind of like, oh, no, like this is kind of, she might get a little freaked out from this. So how was that conversation for you in that moment? I think Leslie was just trying to give me advice from where she was coming from with her experience on her side of things, I took it with a grain of salt.

There's obviously, it was more to the conversation, but people always focus on the negative. But Leslie and I had a great conversation. We talked about going through similar life experiences, and she gave me a lot of great advice. But yeah, I just took it with a grain of salt where she was saying to, you know, guard your heart, which, I mean, I kind of was to an extent through this process.

You know, I was very optimistic, but I never felt like I was guaranteed. anything and that's how i continued to to go through it regardless of you know what she was telling me i just kind of kept going how i was do you think that her words and warnings changed how you felt or approached situation at all like do you think it did kind of send you into a bit of a panic or do you think that anxiety was already there yeah i think that the closer you get towards the end and you feel all those real feelings you're going to be anxious regardless so with that conversation or not, I think that I was going to be nervous going into the final,

the final, you know, little stint of it all. How was that for you watching the conversation, Joey? Because I feel like, I mean, we love Leslie. But we were watching it being like, no, Leslie, you're going to scare her. I mean, obviously, like you said, we only see a little bit, but. Yeah, I think she explained it well. It was more like Leslie was trying to explain where she was coming from. We did have more talks about that, not only during our dinner, but also through

overnight. It's like we talked through it. It definitely heightened her feelings of where she was at, but I also think it was important because you have to go through that point of also thinking like, okay, there is doubt, but does that doubt still make me want to push forward? Like, is there something that I want to fight for even though I have this doubt? And I think that's probably what I look at as the positive that it brought out was she did feel the doubt. She did realize what the position she was in, but knew there was something stronger to like fight for to get to the end. And I think that's what kind of made us stronger through it. And Leslie did the right thing. Like, It's a tough position to be in.

Oh, 100%. And I mean, we saw her journey, so I think the viewers can understand where she's coming from. And I also think that that's a great way to look at it, Joey. Like, she maybe was feeling fear and doubt, but Kelsey, you obviously cared enough to push through that and not let it scare you away. Right. It's important to be realistic. I think Leslie tried to make sure she was being realistic because she even said that she maybe lost that through her whole entire journey, which, again, is totally understandable. Kelsey, let's see the ring.

Could you show us the ring? Yeah. It's shining. It's a little sideways. It's so sparkly. I'm blinded. Oh, my God. It's beautiful.

Great job. Did you say what you wanted at all? I did. I said like certain qualities like I wanted an emerald kai. I wanted it to be more simple, things like that. So whenever he opened it up, I was like, yeah. There was a little bit of a dilemma because she does like gold. Yeah.

And there was only like one gold option, but like I knew platinum was, like, I knew platinum would work and I knew the emerald cut was more important because she wanted like a longer cut. So there was a moment. I was like, I really hope I'm not picking the wrong one. But when she saw it, she literally showed me later on a picture that she showed to a producer of like exactly what she wanted. And it even had like the exact emmo cut to two half moves on the side. Like it was almost the exact same room.

It was. I think a little bigger, I think was the one that we got. Yeah. that's amazing i love that it's beautiful it's so beautiful no i'm obsessed with it and also like i mix i mix metals like i'll do silver and gold so you know i could just do a gold wedding band so we'll be good there you go joie you can always get it dipped too i think yeah i think my mom did that she had a like a yellow gold ring for forever and for their like 15 year anniversary or whatever she got it dipped in white gold oh fun um joey you expressed during the season like your biggest fear

is, you know, getting, falling for someone who then doesn't get there. When Kelsey walked out, were those fears gone or were you still, were you still nervous? Or did you think she was going to hit you up with another, we need to talk, which I don't know, Kelsey, I don't know what that was about. We don't know what we need to talk in a little bit. No, I think it was a mix of emotions. I would say that I still had that like, wow, is this going to be it? But I was confident. Our last night that we had together was so great.

I was more, I was now in a different position because I was reassuring her a lot through that time. So I was trying to stay strong and confident like this is here. If you want this to be here, I want it to be here. So, yeah, there's a lot of emotions on that last day. But I was confident. But I think any guy as soon as they get down on one knee has that like thought in the back of the head, like is she going to say yes so i could think that for a second uh but yeah we we were we were in a good spot at that moment so i felt good joe did you have that thought oh yeah of course yeah i was

i really had that thought but well joe genuinely i actually didn't know if i was going to say yeah i i truly didn't know calcy how about how about you walking out onto that platform like how surreal is that moment i mean you come on this show and like you're there you're there at the end Yeah, it was very surreal. I was telling all my friends going on that I was like, you know, I might be back next week, guys. I was like, don't worry. Like, I'll probably be right back. I came on just thinking, if anything, it'd be a really cool life experience, but I was open to the process. And I mean, it worked out perfectly for me. And I'm just really happy where we are. It's funny whenever I was actually walking up to Joey at the end, I couldn't find him. I was looking everywhere. I was like, where is he? That actually was why I had some doubts because she wasn't looking at me. So I was like, well, this is going to be bad all of a sudden. I couldn't find him. I was like, where am I walking?

And finally I found him. Yeah, they had a whole route for her. She had to like walk through the same thing. She's like turning backwards, Joyce again. She's leaving me, it's over. He just kept looking straight at like the production town. I was like, is something about to happen? Like, I don't even know what's going on.

I was looking at them. I was like, where are like going? They're like, go that way. We made it through. We made it through, yeah. You found him. Thank God. I got him.

So I would say, I mean, this is one of the first times I think we've ever seen this on a season. But Daisy does come to you, Kelsey, and basically says, like, I don't think he's going to pick me. So, like, I'm done. Was there a part of you that kind of wishes she didn't do that? Do you feel like that might have spoiled the moment for you? I mean, I think that I went back and forth at the very beginning of like, oh, you know, I really, I don't know, like, did I want that? Did I not? But at the end of the day, like, it's what happened. And I know that she had really good intent. And, you know, I think that it didn't take a little bit of the stress off my shoulders going in. So I do appreciate Daisy. And I think that she's a wonderful woman. and so okay nice nice yeah um i don't know if i would have liked it but no no how was um the car ride it looked really awkward and it wasn't as awkward as it looked i feel like i'm happy to

hear that because i was like what is up with this just a really close handle like for hours in the car well i was also like i wonder how long this car ride is like i mean if it's like three minutes that's one thing if they're in this car for two hours, just sitting like this in silence. It would feel like a long car ride because, I mean, I think we're all just nervous for the end. That was the craziest thing for me. She told me after when we were leaving. She was like, you know what me and Daisy rode in the car together? Like, what?

That's not a thing. He didn't know we talked before. He didn't know any of that. Yeah. So all of that was a surprise for me to finally see two and for her to tell me about. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamail Hill, host of the Sports and Politics podcast.

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Listen to no such thing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Nice. Oh, yeah, that's so true. So watching it all back, were you too supportive of each other and how I guess how difficult was watching the entire season back

you can speak on that first what your thoughts were yeah honestly I had my own method where I toward the first like two episodes are so like I watched all of it but the more it went on I would put in my headphones I'd scroll on my phone during other people's one-on-ones or like other intimate moments I just was like I don't need to see this um because this was this is, like, not what it is now. So I just kind of ignore a lot of it and just focus on our moments, but there were, like, parts where they were harder for me to watch, but Joey was always so supportive and understanding throughout it all.

So props to Joey for, you know, helping me go through all of this, yeah. I think, I think for me the part is, is like, I did through this entire season, always try to think through, like, okay, your wife is going to be watching this back someday. Like, let's try your best to make sure your words have purpose, the actions. can look back on at least explain but there's still moments you walk through and watch you're like god this has got to be so hard for her so i tried as much as possible to watch it through her eyes to prepare as much as i could when i saw things um i think the biggest thing for us is it wasn't as tough as it could have been because i tried to be as open about the communication explain everything as possible because yeah i want

this to be a great experience but as everyone knows that goes through it it is tough to to navigate through some of this and no one should have to watch where she had to watch and i feel for her her through that but we kept focusing on like where we're at now and that's really what's most important yeah was there anything that you were like the most nervous to watch or anything you considered being like i'm just not going to watch those parts um i didn't really watch fantasy suites i also didn't really watch hometowns um but i mean obviously like afterwards you see like social media going crazy about it all so i think obviously the hardest part for me was seeing everybody talking about it afterwards, not even watching it.

Usually, even if I watched the whole episode, I didn't feel any type of way. Just because I knew the connection that we had, even if it wasn't fully shown, I felt really confident watching it. And the aftermath of, like, everybody else's thoughts on it was, I think, what really affected me more. How so? I mean, like, I understand, but just... Well, I just think that, you know, certain people really like certain women.

And then they, you know, want those women to be with Joey. And it was kind of hard for me because I was like, you know, but it's me. I think it's also like they take like the smallest information and then they create their own storyline. That was it. Like they made, they came up with ideas or came up with storylines that were not true, but they just had this little thing and like, well, that had to happen then. And she's like, no, this happened, but you can't really control other people's opinion. And I think in general this whole season, we felt like a lot of people were invested. Like they enjoyed it.

So because of that, they have these theories. they have these storylines they create and they go down this whole tangent where we're like well the truth is this and we want people to know that but it came with time and we're just happy that we're obviously here now yeah and i think that i just kind of have found my own way of pushing that you know to the side and like this is what is real and this is what i can focus on well the good thing now and i can speak from experience is like it it seems so heavy in the moment and it's like all consuming when it's happening but like all that's basically it's all in the past and like now everyone's going to want to celebrate you guys and your future so kind of know that and do you got what are

your guys plans like what's what's living situation looking like what are we doing so the plan initially uh i've obviously been just staying at my sister's place so i'm the one that's moving right now i'm going to new orleans for a little bit we're going to be there for the beginning part of summer, but the end goal is we want to get to New York. So we're going to be in New York. Oh, no way. Oh, that's amazing. I think probably sometime in like we're thinking July or August is when we're trying to get there because she's finishing up release. But New York City is 100% of the move. We're excited about it. Well, if you have any questions about areas or anything like that, we're here. And you guys have to let us know when

you come. We'll go out for dinner or something. No, we can't wait. Yeah. We can't wait. Going through this, did you guys reach out to any, like, Bachelor Nation couples that basically went through the same thing and were successful? Yeah. So I spoke with Dodden and also Katie. And they both have just been so helpful throughout all of this and, you know, helping me through all the phases because they understand on this side of things. But Dotten pretty much told me, like, just go through it as no refunds. and that's how we've been going through, is that we can just get through anything.

And I thought that was some really great advice. They were great. I've talked to Zach quite a bit, and obviously got her connect with Katie, too. I just think, like, it's been great that we've had two successful couples in a row in the last seasons, and they've had their own share of problems and just been so open to understand our experience, how it's different, but also connect.

And everyone's been great. And I've gotten to talk to, like, Ben Higgins is an old lead, too, with a lot of other stuff. but we've had nothing but support from all of Bachelor Nation, which has been amazing for us. Nice. That is great. That's really nice.

Speaking of, you know, Bachelor Nation and fans, Kelsey, I know they really like your dad. I've seen a lot of tweets and comments about your dad. Even like people I know that watch the show are like, oh my God, Kelsey's dad is such a fox. like do you think like how long how young do you think you date like well you think he would I mean they're they're doing a golden bachelor act do you think he would do it um you know I have talked to him about it a little bit I would love to see my dad open up in that setting I think that it would be really great for him and I think it would be really fun for me and my siblings to even learn more about him um but yeah I would love to see him open up to that I know my mom always said that if

she passed before him that she wanted him to find love again. So, you know, I just think that he might need a little push. How old is your dad? I'll say from experience, too, Mark's even better in person. Like, it's crazy. People love him through the camera, but that guy has a presence when he talked to him in person. So he's about to be 60. Okay, so he's like, I think the cutoff for last season, the youngest person was 60.

Yeah. So he's like just sliding in there and then it gets on. March, March is, oh, wait, no. Yeah. That's perfect. Okay. No, wait, May. Sorry. March. My brother's birthday is in March. My dad's birthday is in May. Okay. What advice going through this, if let's say he did get on, what advice Kelsey would you give him? Just to be himself and to open up because I think that it can be nerve-wracking, you know, all the cameras and all these new people and trying to open up in a weird, you know, an abnormal setting.

But I don't know. I think that my dad has been through so much in his life. that he'd tackle it, like, so easily. Yeah. Nice. Okay, so Kelsey, I know when you met Joey's family and you guys discussed, timeline in marriage, have you two talked about that more? Yeah, I think that we both have talked about it in the sense of we would like a longer engagement. We don't want to feel stressed hurrying up and planning a big wedding or whatever it is.

I think that we also need to figure out where we even want to have it because we both live in different places or from different places. But, yeah, we just talked about the fact that we would like a longer engagement focus on us right now and then start planning. And we don't want too much stress or anything with that. No rush. We both feel like we're in a great spot to enjoy this engagement. And, yeah, none of us are on a timeline that we feel like we need to be rushing.

But the cool part is if we have a longer engagement, that also gives us more time to plan and think through a lot of the fun things. We both admitted we don't really even have an idea of what our wedding would look like yet. Like, we haven't thought through that much. So we have time and we're excited for it. Yeah, I think that's healthy. Honestly, just move in together first. Move in together and then see where that goes.

Kind of like when you do this, we're starting dating all over again. So that's what we're focusing on. We want to strengthen this relationship to however it's strong, it already feels, but make it even better. So that's our focus for now, and we have time for the rest. Yeah. Nice. any um any travel plans coming up you guys are going to go anywhere celebrate yeah we do have a few uh we we found out that we have a lot of weddings we got invited to this year so that's that's part of it

as well i've got a couple of buddies they're getting married uh one of the cool places one of my buddies is getting married in portugal so we're going to be heading out there which should be really fun uh we're actually going to go to back to hawaii because i wanted to show her around but the cool thing is we're jumping on a trip with uh zach and katy as well so that one will be in may so we'll go to Kauai, we have Portugal, and then a few other different going around the states, the different things that we have coming up. It should be fun. Oh, nice. Have you guys met Zach and Katie in person yet? I haven't. She hasn't. I've seen everyone, obviously, but she's been behind closed doors. I've only been FaceTiming Katie, but she's awesome and I can't wait to

hang out with her in person. Yeah, no, they're great. You guys are going to have so much fun. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the sports and politics podcast, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares

why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I

learn, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor.

And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie, and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.

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Listen to no such thing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kelsey, how about the girls on your season? Are you still close? Who are you close with? Yeah, I'm really close. with Lexi, also Caitlin and Medina. I would say those are my three closest friends from the season, but I feel like I got pretty close with all of the girls.

I think that there was, I don't know, just so many amazing women. They all had such big stories. And even some of the girls from the earlier, like, you know, episodes, like Star and Samantha, who went home night one. Like, I don't know, they were all just really great girls. We had a good bunch this season. Nice. And how did you get on the show?

So I applied myself. It was like a couple months after my last relationship. And my friend had applied me the last relationship I had got out of. So I was like, you know what? Let me just apply. I didn't think I was getting her back. And then I just started hearing back. And I started doing more and more interviews.

And then, you know, I got on. And I was like, I can't wait to meet this guy. I was making a joke when she first told me she applied herself. I was like, that's a red flag. I was like, I don't know, I don't know about this one anymore, but she was sweet. She was saying the same thing, like how she, that's what she does when she got out of a relationship and she was in a good spot. So we joked about it. But I thought it was funny that she applied herself to.

Yeah. I was like, I genuinely did not expect to hear back. Like I blew through like the thing. Honestly, I didn't, I don't think that I like went super in depth about a lot of things. But then the interviews, we just talked more and more with, you know, everybody and it went great but it's so funny because honestly I applied myself too I mean like I had a lot of yeah I had a lot of like external pressure from my mom and my sister to do so but like I was just out of a relationship a few months prior it was the pandemic and honestly I never thought I would

hear back like I did not apply seriously like I don't even know what I put on my application but like I always feel like saying that I applied myself when it's like oh I got nominated oh I got scouted. I'm like, yeah, no, like this is, I feel like a red flag that I applied myself. But when you guys described like that, it doesn't. As soon as she explained it and if you explained it, like, I wouldn't think of it. But the first year you applied yourself, like, oh, so you're here for followers. Like, that's what you're freaking club chaser. Well, that's where your head goes right away.

But then when you hear it, like, oh, no, you were just open to it. And like, this will never happen. Yeah. Yeah, literally. Like, when you explain it, it makes sense. But when you're like, yeah, I applied, it's like, this feels icky saying. No, literally. I was like, I'm nervous to tell people, like, I applied for myself.

I was like, I'm a little embarrassed. Like, I didn't get a DM. I'm not that cool. Joey, what was your reaction, your honest reaction when you first saw Kelsey, which you stepped out of the limo? So I was blown away. The part is, you know how the limo inches are always different times, too. She was actually the last one out of the limo.

She was the last person that came up. So I was also, like, after 32 women, like, it was getting to the point that I was like, I'm kind of, I'm ready to go inside. I'm ready to give this toast. Like, I'm ready to get this thing going. But she walked out and I was like, holy shit. Okay. Like, this is amazing.

Like, okay, this was worth it for 32 because she was the last one. And I was blown away right away. But we always joke, too, about our first conversation on night one. Like, she was so nervous and so kind of upset. I think that I kissed other women because she heard it through the house and just kind kind of you said that you were a little bit. I wasn't upset that you were kissing other women. I just was like, you're not going to kiss me. Exactly. So I guess that's what it was. She was definitely

reserved. I was like, Kelsey, Kelsey, did you, did you go in for a kiss at all night one? No. No, she was saying that she like was like, I don't, don't kiss me night one. Like she was, it wasn't like a bad thing. But like if we were sitting with each other like this, we weren't like this. She was like purposefully this far away from the and like not making a whole lot of eye contact because I was like this boy better not come in for a kiss. Because I heard 10 other girls. say that he gives well honestly is smart you play a little hard to get and she did well she did

well i said from the beginning i was like joey joey likes these girls but i think he loves kelsey and i think i said i did i said that night one i was like he's upset you did you said that you didn't say that night one well i might have said at night whatever two we also talked about this one too because i thought this was so interesting um i forget who brought it up one of the producers talked to me about it that said you're going to have your idea of everyone after night one but you're going to go to bed and you're going to wake up and someone's going to be on your mind you're going to have a dream about her or someone you're not going to be able to get out of your head and we didn't have the best night one because of

that like awkward thing that she was like someone that was on my mind she's giving you like bad body language yeah i was like i don't think this girl likes me so we had that like whole type of thing but i went to bed and i woke up the next morning i had a fallen dream about her she was the only person on my mind when I like woke up the next day and I told all my team when I was the next day I was like for some reason this Kelsey girl's on my mind I think the voodoo doll worked like I think it made it through in my dreams like I'm not sure but that was the weirdest thing that I could not wait for that paint dial date because she was the one that like I couldn't get out of my head and then she acted like she liked me on the paint ball date so yeah oh my god I have chills

that's so cool that is such a good story yeah it was definitely different because someone brought it up. And I was like, no, I'm not going to dream about anyone. But I did. She was the person I dreamed about. It was the voodoo doubt. You know it actually worked. It actually worked. Jesus, Kelsey. She had a second one in her bag the whole time she never told me about. Jesus. You got some, you got some serious powers here. I'm always curious about this. Do you, like, you did say you dreamt about Kelsey, but were you kind of like, she's going to be here? Like, did, was she in your top three like were you like she's making it the hometowns i knew before we started traveling that there was no way she wasn't going to hometowns unless something happened like we had we had a great

first day at the paint battle but the the missus right date when she got the group date rose was kind of like unless something goes terribly wrong unless i'm missing something there's just no doubt that we're getting to the point that we're going to see how far this can go so i knew very early on where she was at. But then I also know how crazy this whole experience is. And you have to keep your mind open and understand that she could not be as invested as I was. But I think you see through a lot of interviews throughout the season too.

Like I was questioning if she was invested. It wasn't ever if I was invested. She did play a good hard to get and tried as much she could like hold things on her sleeve. I think I did say like after you guys first date, I was like, I think like either like Joey's like a little more invested in Kelsey. Kelsey isn't Joey. I was like, I'm sure that's not the case, but like she's playing hard to get or what.

But I was like, he's definitely got like the hard eyes on for her. And I feel like she's like, we'll see. I always read the joke. I said, I didn't know you actually liked me until at the end of Robert. Like, even during the day, it was like when we left that night and we were like, before we left, I was like, okay, like she actually does like me now. But I was worried. I didn't know because she was trying so hard to like hold it in, I guess.

but well i was about talking about a lot of things i know my mom to be brought up and i wanted that conversation to have its time so i think that that was like part of me like holding back a little bit but yeah well Kelsey i want to know if you if you felt that from joey but we will uh we'll lead off with that question um for part two so everyone please stay tuned um for the second part of joey and kelsey because we are going to get more into their relationship and ask them more questions. And thank you guys so much for tuning in and make sure you catch part two of this coming up tomorrow because we can't waste any more time. I'm Jamel Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode

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