Bachelor Happy Hour - Exclusive: Joey and Kelsey Happily Ever After, Part 2

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

We are keeping the celebrations going and diving right back into our exclusive sit down with Joey and Kelsey. Starting right where we left off, Joe and Serena get Kelsey’s story behind her journey with Joey, including whether she knew all along that it was going to be her at the end. Then, Joe and Serena get all the deets on what’s to come for the couple – travel plans, moving plans, and when we can expect to see them tie the knot. They also discuss Kelsey’s infamous card and ask whether she wishes she had done anything differently during her journey. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I'm Serena. And welcome back, guys. It's been a while. Good to be here. So the question I ended the last interview with is Kelsey, did you feel like you were kind of, I don't want to say. shoe in but that you were on joey's mind a lot and that you were probably going to make it to hometown before you guys started traveling um i don't know about before we were traveling but once we started traveling i knew that joey really liked me he gave me a lot of reassurance

um but it's funny because i don't know fully if all the girls knew that because i wouldn't really talk about our relationship with the other girls like i always just kept it close to me and um i didn't feel like i needed to you know i feel like they knew i was pretty obvious on group dates. I got notes on my end that, hey, like, let's, let's, spread the love a little bit more from time to time. So they had to know. Yeah, we did have a few girls come on and say, like, we're like, who do you think? Like, he has a really strong connection with. And I think it was Lexi. Lexi, I feel like is always, like, so honest in our interviews with her, which is amazing. And she's like, yeah, no, I knew he liked Kelsey the whole

time. And we're like, okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to hide. We had a strong connection, And really, like I said, from after that, Mrs. Wright, there was there was really no looking back. Was there a part of you that was kind of always, like, worried that you are going to have feelings for more than one woman, but the one that you feel the strongest for, you don't want to room that? Yeah, 100%. We talked about that a ton. That was a big conversation. And it's definitely one of those things that's hard to even understand. I've tried multiple times to express how my feelings were and I tried to hold it in.

I think you saw in that last day how I explained that I only wanted to say, I love you to one person. I only wanted to fully express it to one. Even though I said falling in love to two, my mindset of was I have to start expressing some emotions because we're getting to that point. But the falling in love is more like I can see a future. Like I'm starting to picture it. I'm just not going to be fully in love with someone until it's that final person.

And so I tried to hold back as much as I could, but I knew when it got to that point that there needed to be some type of emotion shared. And we've talked through that. I think that it's a very weird part of this process. But I know that my love was only strongest for her. And I really try as much as I could to hold in as much as I can and keep it for us because I think that is important. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, if it was if you just went with Kelsey right away, then we wouldn't have a show.

Exactly. This wouldn't have worked. so we touched on how you guys kind of had your first day in where was it in spain again ronda ronda he's going to call it like rotunda or something you had your first day in ronda and like that kind of sealed the deal for like kelsey being like yeah i'm into it i've shared my story i want to talk about your next one-on-one day in jasper because joe had such a reaction to this date because he was like i literally can't believe they just let them go see sit at a bar all day. Like, this is such a fun date. Like, how are they allowing them to just hang

out? How was that day for you guys? It was so fun. I love that, honestly, both of my dates were pretty, like, chill. I felt like, you know, we hung out in the bar in Jasper, and it just felt like we were on a normal day, and we were just hanging out and drinking beer, shooting pool. He taught me, you know, one or two tricks with that. And it was just a really good time. It was fun. You know, you obviously get the ability to like pick the dates when you're trying to figure out who it makes sense with. And I always tried to pick the cultural dates with her where we had more time and more in between because I knew that you'd have those breaks. But when they explained what Jasper was, I was like, oh, this is an awesome date. Like I did not expect for us to be able to hang out a pub like that. The polar plunge was obviously the big thing. But there was a whole like outside venue that we got to hang out to. Like we ended up playing like cornhole that day. We had there was a whole like maple syrup. Luge. Like, we had a, that Jasper date was even better than what everyone saw. Like, we got a full day of just activities and walking around. And there was no break time either, which you know can happen sometimes. Like, we just got to be hand in hand the entire time and just

explore Jasper pretty much. So that date was unbelievable. Yeah, it was beautiful. It was just so stunning there. Kelsey, do you do coal plunges? Because you were like such a champ. And I could tell Joey, like, hated every second. And how cold was it? It was 30 something degrees in the water. It was high 30s, maybe low 40s, but it was, yeah, I've done ice bass before and that was, I had that feeling of where you lose your breath right away. Yeah, he was, I told him, I was like, the thing you have to do is, like, you have to, like, focus on your breathing. You have to, you know, you can't just like hyperventilate. And I know that's what he was doing immediately. And I don't know if you saw that, like, in a part of the episode, you can see me being like, breathe.

Because he was like, he like couldn't, he like couldn't breathe. We had a whole context, too. She was like, I'm going to stay in longer than you. So that's why it took us so long and get out of the water because we were waiting for, she was until she was done. Yeah. So we were like, the last one's in there. And then I was like, I'm getting out. You went.

Well, I was like, I'm going to beat you. I'm going to stay in longer. But that was your first time you said. Yeah, that was my first time. But I've watched like YouTube videos on it. Oh, that was your first time. Yeah. That was your first time.

And you're like instructing him through the process. That's crazy. I've done it so many times. That's so embarrassing. Like, I've done the hot and cold. therapy and I struggled and she was like like breathing through it and I'm yeah it was a lot maybe like the adrenaline rush for Kelsey helped a little bit you know what I mean like I feel like knowing like having done cold plunges not nearly Joe does a lot of them I've done it like maybe

three times I feel like knowing what I'm getting myself into when I go into them makes it so much worse because I'm like oh I know how bad this is going to be whereas when you don't and you're like this is crazy this is fine like we're in this beautiful place Like maybe you're adrenaline or you're just honestly a champ and you found your new calling. I'm not the polar plunge girl. She was actually that excited too. She lost her mind. She wanted to do a polar plunge when she showed up.

She wanted to jump in the lake. That was all real that she could not. I was going to jump in the lake like regardless. I was going to do it off camera though. But then, you know, we had this date and it was amazing. I was so excited. Doing it in open water. I've done a few like in Canada and then also like in other places.

It's way more fun than jumping. into a cold bath like the the environment makes it so much more exciting definitely that was a cool that was a cool yeah Kelsey what um I know like you guys went to New Orleans and you had Beny's which is like kind of like your typical New Orleans pastry but what what is your favorite like restaurant like if if you were to take Joey around New Orleans on your own what would you do um I mean like a good classic like New Orleans restaurant would be commander's palace I've been there yeah yeah yeah it's amazing they've got you know turtle soup they've got gumbo they've got all the classics and banana fosters um but i don't know i love trying i mean in new orleans there's so many restaurants

i feel like you could try a new place like every day um but like that's so hard to like choose a favorite you picked one you picked a good one yeah but yeah i mean i just i love new orleans i love running around trying like jumping into different places and how you can like you know just walk around with a drink in your hand. What was that place that I ended up going to when we were there? Couchon. Oh, Cushon. Yeah.

That was really good. That was really good. Food in New Orleans is so good. Yeah. It has a array, like such a variety of foods as well. They have really great Italian, like Sophia or Italian barrel. Those are some really good places. Yeah.

Nice. Well, you're in for a treat when you come to New York in terms of restaurants and food. I could not wait. I was, we were even talking about it too because I've been doing so much back and forth with L.A. and New York, and we talked about West Coast for a little bit, too, was an idea but after doing both i've had so much more fun during press when we've been in new york i just the the food the atmosphere the energy it's close to where i live in philly too so i'm really excited to to get out there it's going to be a good time yeah if you love a big city like uh

you really can't really match the energy in new york we we love it um what about let's talk a little of it about you have there's a lot of drama on your season uh Kelsey what are your thoughts on all of it the Cindy Maria of all of it I mean I don't really think that I have much to say about it I just tried to stay away from all of that I didn't think that it was any of my concern so yeah I mean no comment really not too it's it's we we even when we talked about it before like it should be folks on the individual connections and i give her a lot of credit that she never really brought up a lot of it unless it felt like it was a part of what she would be involved in but she never really was so yeah we tried to be i i knew that she

deflected it the same way i would have in that case the focus on the connection and not focus on all the other stuff yeah i mean i wasn't involved in it um yeah i mean i think that sydney's great i think that maria has great qualities as well and um it stinks that that's what was highlighted um for their journeys. Well, I mean, you didn't have to get involved because Joey was taking you to private bars to hang out during the season. So you guys were able to. Yeah, she was in a good spot. Yeah. You guys were, you guys were chilling. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to

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the run right. I'm looking at this thing. Listen to no such thing on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kelsey, you meeting Joey's family. How was that? I always feel like the person

that goes second has like a bit of a disadvantage. no matter what happens, no matter how amazing they are, because you're going after someone else. The only thing that we saw, like, that maybe could have been a little bit of a struggle was the talk of timeline and marriage and readiness for an engagement with, you know, his sisters.

How was that? And then was there anything else additionally that day that maybe we didn't get to see? Yeah, I think that that conversation, I didn't realize that it was like, took as a negative in the moment. Whenever I said, you know, I think that I'm ready, I meant not like, I think maybe. It was more like I think I am, but, you know, I know that other people might not, you know,

think that a 25-year-old might be ready for marriage or not, but yeah, I mean, I don't think that I had a set timeline on, I need to be married by this age. And so, I mean, I wasn't, like, feigning for, like, engagement or marriage, but because it's Joey and because of our connection, you know, like, I don't. did want that and I did see myself ready for that. But yeah, I didn't in the moment, I was like, oh, you know, I just think that I'm ready. But then in hindsight, I was like, okay, that could be taken, you know, differently than what I meant. So I wanted to reiterate that to him. But I didn't mean it that way. But no, I think that all of my conversations went pretty well. There was obviously

hard conversations, you know, hard questions that were asked. But I just kind of said however I was feeling in that moment. Joey, when your sister's brought that to you? Did that raise any concerns? Not really. They really kind of explain what they felt was the case too. They said that they thought that she was ready. It was more that the communication styles were different, how Daisy seemed like she like knew what the answer was, where Kelsey sometimes just says the first thing that comes on her mind off the cuff. And that didn't surprise me because I knew how she was. So I knew it was probably her just like blurting out an answer and being like, wait, look, I hope you understand that I am.

And that's probably how the conversation went. So they explained that to me, too, saying like she seems like she's fully invested and wants it. But they just wanted to explain what the answer was. And I was like, yeah, I kind of get that. Yeah, totally. Speaking of miscommunications between the two of you, we have to talk about the note. Kelsey, do you want to give a little context to your we need to talk wording choice?

Yeah. Yeah, so I didn't have a whole lot of time to write a big note, you know, so I just had to use a couple of words. Yeah, I could have wrote more. You know, I could have wrote a little heart. I could have wrote a happy face. And, you know, I'm. You should have just gave him a voodoo doll with a pin stuck in the heart. You know what, though, in your defense, because we talked to Joey after the woman to tell him,

we did ask him a little about the note and joe and i tried to like play out what we would write if we were in your shoes and it actually was harder than we thought it was going to be to like write something that's like really really short and concise that doesn't sound ominous but also conveys urgency so like i i sympathize with you but you know we need to talk yeah could have made it a little bit better, but, um, it's hard to do. Does that conversation go how you thought it was going to, though? Like when you met with Joey in the room, were you like, whoa? I saw him open the door and immediately my heart dropped because I saw his face.

And I felt sick to my stomach. I felt like, you know, this looks like I'm playing games and I'm not. And I just wanted to tell him, you know, I want to meet your family. I'm excited to meet your family if, you know, given the chance. And yeah, I, you know, because I didn't say that, I think, in our time. I don't know if we talked about that before, uh, after tell all with the context. But she did like, we had a conversation off camera about saying like, I said something. I guess I slipped up in some way by saying like, I can't wait for you to meet my family.

And she got kind of upset because she just came off to talk with Leslie. It was like, you can't promise me anything. Like, I want to take this step by step. So her reaction was more kind of, it wasn't negative. it was just like I can't look ahead to that and then when she sat with it she realized that she wishes she was actually just like no I can't wait to meet your family too so that was what was sitting with her after that day and why she wanted to talk to me which makes total sense and I think you're completely right I don't know what else she would have wrote it just wasn't a good note to

get regardless okay well I'm getting to give you a blank card right now okay what do you got what do you got if you're redo it um this is a good one I think we got to talk you just haven't yeah that's hard maybe have you just said like I miss you before yeah or like

can we talk or no I don't know you want to talk you want to talk so we found out from this that she was never going to make it but we just have to be aware

of this moving forward not notes like that I make little love letters she's good at the love letters I guess I have to look forward to in my future yeah maybe copywriting isn't in your future and joey if you get any ominous text from kelsey maybe just don't jump

to conclusion yeah we're learning together on that one for sure can we talk question bar question per question car Kelsey how is when you got home um after getting engaged how how is your family how did they respond um so i only told my dad and my sister taylor um and so everybody else honestly was very respectful. My brother, no one really, like, pestered me with questions. Obviously, my dad and my sister Taylor knew because I felt like they could hold that information and it wasn't going to be a big burden on them. But my other siblings, I just felt like that would have been almost a burden on them to have to, like, not be able to, you know, tell everybody. But my brother, he just was just very sweet because he was like, he thought that, you know,

maybe I got heartbroken. And so everyone was just really nice and very respectful, honestly, of like not pestering me which i was worried about yeah yeah it's a and it's a it's such a like it's such a maybe like the biggest moment of your life and then you like no but i can't tell anyone yeah and i don't want is like spew it to everybody you know yeah that was hard how did your friends react seeing it they're just so excited for me and they know that you know if i chose Joey that I'm 100% in and I think that they all just trust me and are so excited to meet Joey. Is Joey your type? Yeah.

I mean, I think that my type is. I know, she's like, not at all. I mean, Joey's obviously so handsome, but my type really is like more so personality, like, kind men that, you know, treat me with respect and are fun. And I enjoy my time with. And that's Joey. it is okay joey what is your favorite quality about kelsey uh i've said it all the time i think you even saw it at the ending how i kept explaining her like describing her as this light like she has an infectious energy about her that i don't know it's just different i've never i told my family this too

like i've never met someone like her before like she is original 100 so she has this like goofiness is light to her that I can describe it as goofy or light or in any word, but there's just something different about her that makes her stand out for sure. In Kelsey? All right, Kelsey, your turn. I know this is hard. You had asked this question before. You've had time to think about this.

I think that Joey was like, I don't know. No, I think that Joey is just so kind and intentional with everything that he does. I think that you can just see through the whole process. And even like from women to all how everybody just. still adored him nobody was angry at him i think joey's just very intentional and kind and i think that he grounds me a lot which is i need that yeah joey got lucky with that one it's everyone everyone really everyone really likes you this is the first time i've ever seen this rubwood's like oh he broke he broke my heart but he's just he's so he did in such a nice way yeah jesse like whispered to me

during the tell he was like i've never seen this before when you're getting to the end he's like you really got up easy man i don't know what's going on just trying to get through this oh it's great uh what okay joey what is something that you learned about kelsey post engagement um yeah let's see if i can think of a different answer to this i kind of don't want to give the same one i think that i i found out a lot of times how much she just like her energy is crazy like i said how much I love how she's this light, but also I found out very quickly, like, I can be very chill sometimes. I just want to lay down the couch, watch a movie, do nothing. She doesn't have that bone in her body. Like, she is always on the go, always wanted to do something, needs

to kind of be active and fidgety and moving around. It's adorable, but I was like, wow, this is, this is an energy. I'm going to have to learn how to handle it from time of time. But I've been able to. As you said, I ground her too. Not a negative. It's actually better. That was one of the biggest things of why I was so excited for us to be together, because I need that. If I have someone that's too low-key, I'm going to be boring and low-key, too. So it's a necessity, but it's energy on steroids. That's for sure. She's got that in school.

Well, Kelsey, what's your secret? ADHD. That's the opposite. That's what brings it down. ADHD and medicated. And Kelsey, what about, what about you? What have you learned post-engagement, something about Joey? I think so goofy too, though.

I think that on the show we really get to the nitty-gritty and are focusing on the seriousness of everything. But he has such a funny and fun side to him that I don't think people really got to see through the season fully. But yeah, he's super funny. My older sister said something about that. She said that what she loves most about Kelsey is she brings out my silly side. Because my family sees it like my best friends do, but a lot of times I take stuff too seriously and she doesn't allow me to in any way.

That's good. I think that's a really, I think that's important in a relationship for someone that have, you know, qualities that you may not possess. Yeah, for sure. Um, we obviously saw that Kelsey got to meet your sisters, your mom, your dad, but who we didn't get to see this season was Uncle Joe, who if you watch charity season is Joey's uncle who kind of gave him a hard time at hometowns for not showing the real Joey. So what was Uncle Joe's feedback on this season? And did he feel like we got to see the real Joey and that Kelsey gets to see the real Joey? He was, uh, he was great. We've had a lot of comments. Honestly since charity's season, I've spoke on it before. It's actually made us a lot closer just because it opened up a different side of our relationship to talk more about those things. He's been nothing but proud of me. He like sends me text almost every week after he watched the episode and says, I can't believe you're making me watch this show more, but I have to keep telling you how you're navigating handling these situations. Like I don't think you could have done it any better. So he just I think has seen a lot of growth is very happy for how. everything's been. So excited about her. There's just a lot of good. And again, I think the surprise

of this whole show in general is how close it's made my family and also honestly changed some the communication relationships that we had. So nothing but positive. Uncle Joe said he saw the real Joey, even though maybe an improved version of Joey might be the better way to put it. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up

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Like, she is, but she is so supportive and so kind. Like, whenever I'm having any emotions, even if I'm, like, you know, annoyed about anything with the show with him, like, she's like, yeah, that that wasn't cool. You know, like, she's like on my side, but also just like, like, helping me see things from different perspectives. I'm, I'm so appreciative of his family. She's been great. She's always said that she wanted to make sure that the person I was with. be your best friend and I obviously was hopeful of that but it's been that and more how much those two talk it's actually scary how much they talk that's amazing I love that um Kelsey

after meeting you I'm really excited to play this game because I'm very curious on your off-the-cuff answers what they will what they will be um so you guys ready we're gonna play a newly engaged game who's who oh boy all right who's the better cook Kelsey. What do you, what, what do you, what's your dish? Oh, I don't know. I like making a bunch of different type of meals, but usually, honestly, usually it's some variation of like protein rice and vegetables.

Simple. But we're both in your work, Joe, so we're coming to you soon. We need some help over here. But I think I'm pretty decent. You're good. I'm terrible. So I'm most people. I don't make, like, chicken dry.

Like, I'm good with seasoning, you know. She makes good dishes. Nice. Did you guys mostly cook at your happy couples or did you order in? We found out pretty quickly. You have to get so many seasoning. many things here it's just not worth like all that hassle we did like one big dish we always try to do like one nice dinner but then uber eats it's just the right free door dash uber eats it's

like yeah i feel like the first happy couple we like stocked up on so much food that we like didn't get to and then we're like okay we just need like snacks and breakfast food like that's exactly what we do snacks breakfast food alcohol that's literally all we yeah okay who has the best music taste Joey I have a wider variety She is definitely different on the music taste I think

better Who sleeps in more Joey What time do you wake up I can sleep in Really really for a long time I think my usual Would be like

Eight or nine I just need to get back in a routine I can jump around so many Eight or nine's not bad Not bad It's more she gets up really early. That's more what it is. She doesn't like sleep as much as I.

Yeah, he's not a morning person or a night person and I am morning person and a night person. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, no, I'm, I need a good like eight to nine hours every single night. If I'm doing stuff correctly in my life, it's usually like 10 to 7 a.m. would be the perfect thing. Go to bed by 10 wake up at 7. That may be the best quality to have in life is to be a morning person and a person. Yeah, I know. No, it's actually hard to understand sometimes.

Like, you're crushing. She's like, you're chipper when she goes to bed and chipper when she wakes up. And I'm like, I'm both like, just get me to my sleep. Yeah, he's like five more minutes. I'm like, I'm like, I want to want breakfast? All right. Who hogs the bed?

Joey? Yeah, probably me. Probably me. I think we're both pretty understanding. Yeah. Okay. Who takes longer to get ready? Kelsey?

Kelsey, barely. What? I don't think that long. You're acting like I take long, though. You don't take long, but as a female, you are going to take longer. Well, you've got a lot of hair work with. I would bet you are, you take 30, at least 30 minutes longer than Joey. That's usually like the max, I feel like.

But I'd take like five minutes. Yeah. Yeah. So he's right. Who's more forgetful? Joey. Joey. Yeah.

Who's the first. funniest. Kelsey. I hate that, but it's true. Who's more outgoing? Kelsey. Yeah, Kelsey. Who's the better driver?

Joey? Joey, I would think. We haven't tested that much. She drives thick. She's got some skills. I know that she has a stick Chevy cruise. So we're going to be sharing that car in New Orleans here soon. Are you going to bring into New York?

No, I'm going to. No car in New York subway. Yeah. Who's the better dancer? Joey oh my god no one wants to see that really really Kelsey you can no it's rough she has some moments where she gets up I'm like no you can stop now I don't want to see what's your Kelsey what's your move what you're like your go-to move yeah show us well like I don't know what this thing is you know like the crisscross knee thing I like that's why you're whipping out at the club Kelsey it's like it's like a walking meme when you try to think no one wants to see it the crisscross thing. That's what you did. If your first move on the dancer, that's great. I'm an awful dancer as well. She'll be requesting, like, chicken dance or something like that. It's going to be bad. Oh, my God. Okay, who's the bigger cuddler?

Joey. Who's the more organized one? Kelsey, 100%. Who's more adventurous? Kelsey. Oh, let's say, Joey. Tired. I agree to disagree. who's the better listener

Joey that one could agree on who wakes up the earliest we kind of answer that one already Kelsey and that is that that's the game only a couple of like

off ones there but same page anything before we hang up on you guys and send you off on your way anything you want to say about your journey or anything we didn't cover or anything like that i don't know i think that i'm just so excited to you know live life off camera and yeah make new life experiences together yeah i mean this season

was obviously a wild ride for me in general it's been like a year of reality tv so i'm very excited for this to be all done week and this was the whole reason this was the purpose to find her so now that we have that i'm just excited to see what comes next do you guys have any advice for future couples coming out of the franchise or a piece of advice that you were given that really stuck with you? For me, I just think that trying to look at it from the other person's perspective as much as you can. I think that that can really be eye-opening. Yeah, I think change. Obviously understand the perspective, but also to, I found out pretty early through this, like, it's going to take work. This isn't a normal situation. So you have to make sure if you pick the right person,

like you're going to have to put it in the effort. You're going to have to understand that you have to choose each other above anything else so um yeah just understand that it'll take work but it's all working yeah yeah love that well so honestly i'm really really happy for you guys um i've called this relationship from the beginning no big deal um but thank you guys so much for taking the time um and actually wait a second no you didn't because she is in my bracket and we at the beginning of this season we each picked four people we picked two we We picked two based up the headshots before the show started, and then we picked two after night one. And Kelsey is in my bracket, not yours, I'm pretty sure.

I don't know about that, too. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Serena, Serena, Kelsey A, my third pick. Well, my first pick after night one. So, Joe, eat your words.

Okay. You know what? Okay. fine whatever whatever I'm over this it doesn't matter now guys it doesn't matter now all that matters is that you guys are happy and I was right yeah exactly and okay and thank you to all our lovely listeners

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