Bachelor Happy Hour - EXCLUSIVE: Joey Discusses the Journey Ahead

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena sit down with Joey to discuss his upcoming journey as our next Bachelor! Coming right off of the big announcement at “After the Final Rose,” Joey discusses his shock over actually becoming the Bachelor, what he is looking for in his future wife, and why he can’t wait to see what’s in the card that Jesse presented to Leah at “After the Final Rose.” Plus, he shares his biggest fears in being named the Bachelor and gives us an update on whether we’ll be seeing more from Uncle Joe as his journey continues.   Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I almost did. I almost did Serena helping you. I'm good, Joe. Where are you? I'm great. You're not the only Joe on this podcast today. I'm not. We have Joey, the Bachelor. Joey, what's up? Welcome to Happy Hour.

Hey, guys, glad to be here. We're so glad to have you. This is your second time here. I know. I feel like I'm a reoccurring, obviously. You're a regular. I'm a regular. It's just nice to finally see you guys in person and have this combo today.

I know. Very different circumstances this time around. Yeah, a lot different. Did you have, when we interviewed you the first time, was there any, like, inklings of, like, potentially being on the next Bachelor? I mean, obviously, when I talked to you, I knew how far I went. So I knew there was a decent chance. I was going to get a lot of screen time.

But, no, I mean, for me, I'm someone that doesn't go in with expectations. I don't try to, like, think of what's coming next. I was just at that moment we talked, was taking things by day and trying to see what it was going to actually look like on screen. So, yeah. It wasn't quite there yet. I would love to say I was, but I wasn't quite there yet. And just because you're The Bachelor, I still want my tennis lesson.

We're going to make it happen for sure. Well, I just wanted to check on that. Okay. Joe, like, before we podcast, I need to make sure I lock in the tennis lesson. this is not happening. I'm positive. I'll find my way in New York and we will make that happen. Nice. All right. So this was a very hectic night. This was, you know, essentially charity and Dotten's night, but we see your dramatic and very sad breakup. So why don't you just take us back to that day and how that felt? Yeah. I mean, today it was very raw. Like it's crazy

to relive that moment. I said it multiple times, but I truth. did black out. I don't remember it that much. So to finally see it on screen, to see me that upset, it was tough. I honestly was more emotional. I even thought I was going to be tonight because the feelings and how I processed it, I felt pretty confident that I knew what it was going to be like. But to see me that distraught and heartbroken was really hard to watch. It is crazy for anyone that's been on this show, they can relate to this. You never have probably in your life, I remember thinking this at least when I was watching it. You've never watched yourself be so upset. So sitting there, like watching yourself cry and be heartbroken and emotional

is a surreal experience in itself of like, wow, like I lived this and now I'm watching this back. I hope I'm not like rubbing salt in the moon. It's just like an observation. I was like, it just really sucks. No, it's, you're right though, because everyone has that feeling when you first hear your voice on TV, you first see yourself on TV. There's little things that you have this kind of out of body experience where you're seeing yourself. You're like, this is kind of weird. the serious emotions, the actual vulnerability and something like that, that was the first time. But, you know, as I said, multiple times, I knew what I signed up for and I've gotten a lot of time to sit with it. But it was wrong today. I won't lie about that. When you went to

go down on one knee and she stopped you. That sucks. But was there any part of you that thought maybe she was still going to choose you? It was just like her turn to talk or you knew it was when she stopped you, it was over. That was one of the last things I remembered was when she stopped me. That had to be tough. That had to be really tough. Wouldn't ask for anyone to be in that position. Because I'm glad she didn't let me actually pull out the ring.

Like she could have been a lot worse. But no, she, I remember clearly she grabbed my arms. And then I looked out to this beautiful Fiji Mountain. And then it was just darkness. Like then I was, I knew she said so much. But in that moment, as soon as she got me, I was like, it's not me. She wouldn't have stopped me if it was. me yeah okay so then she she sends you home you're in the the sprinter van whatever it is

what's going through your head to be honest you're an idiot kind of thing and that's just how i am in that moment was how did you let yourself get to this point i can't believe like you fully gave yourself but it was because in that moment what i wanted to be when i was with her was strong and let her know like it was her day at that moment so when i got into the sprinter van what i felt was finally all the emotions I was holding in was how like how did you let yourself get to this point and get your heartbroken on national TV like that's the worst thing possible but it was brief it was just for that moment that I felt that way and then I really went back to appreciation but it was a human moment where I was like you idiot why did you let yourself do this?

I feel like that is so human like getting your heart broken everyone kind of wants to punch himself in the face a bit of like how did I let myself get my heart broken but it really is just something that you can't control and like in that environment like it just shows that you really let yourself lean into the process which is a lot harder to do than people realize is to really let yourself lean in and I think that's going to be a good quality as a bachelor yeah I'm not going to hold that in I'm not going to lie and say it was all appreciation like it hurt yeah I was uh like if you were sitting in that van and just yeah but I appreciate her still like that would be pretty wild. One thing, are you aware that one thing that Bachelor Nation loves is a heartbreak.

Yes, I am fully aware. I am. And it's, it's, yeah, it's the narrative now, which is, which is okay, because it did actually happen. And in that moment, I was just, I was, I was stunned. I don't know if you could tell enough from tonight and just the connection we had, but it wasn't in any way other than me really thinking it was me. Like I, I remember walking up there and just feeling so confident. And it was, there was no doubt of how it was going to end. So that was the first time I was able to release that moment and be aware that it was finally over. And that was not what was going to happen. Well, yeah, you were wrong. So it's unfortunate. But looking forward, we got some great news. You are the next bachelor. Crazy. How, how, when did they, like when you got the call? Yeah.

How excited were you? I mean, honestly, again, I was kind of in shock when they told me. Yeah. I knew it was a good possibility, but I wasn't having an expectation. Who did you think, did you think there was anybody competing with you for that role? Yeah, I mean, I know, I know there was a buzz in line about, like, John B, and truthfully, before Xavier had his departure, I didn't really know as much about it because I wasn't in it. So when I saw that, I was like, okay, that's a hard narrative to spin, but I know how amazing a person Xavier is. Those were the two that kind of had the top of my head, and I love Tanner Tanner's with my best friend. So if I was thinking of guys from the season, those were the three I know that got the most love.

but um and you know how bachelor nation works they probably have someone else always in the in the chamber ready to fire so they probably could probably had someone else i have no idea so i i just know that nothing is concrete until they say it on the screen so i wasn't i was not expecting anything i was just hopeful yeah how how are your friends and family taking it they excited so my sister can't i mean carly my older sister my younger sister ellie my dad they're all so excited for me My mom. Wait, Carly, Joey, Ellie. Yeah.

Three names that end in Y slash I. Is that intentional? I don't know because we all have very proper full names. Like my older sister is Caroline. I'm Joseph and Ellie's Eleanor. Do you have a middle name? Yeah, Joseph Michael. Joseph Michael.

What are you? Joseph Anthony. Nice. My fun thing about my middle name is actually named after a girl. So my godfather's Joe, Uncle Joe. So Joseph. and then my godmother's Michelle. So that's why they came up with it.

So it's really Joseph Michelle, but we can't have that. So it's Joseph Michael. That's so interesting. I've never heard of someone being like, I'm going to give you a girl's middle name and just switch it to the closest thing that's the dude version of it. That's at least what they tell me.

That's what I'm going off. I'm going to say they're not lying. I hope they're not lying to you. I've heard that story before, so I'm sticking with it. How's Uncle Joe going to handle this? Is he going to come? Because when he dropped the bomb that, are you really sure you get the real jolly open that up let's open that out no let's go quick on it

but yeah okay never mind no no we'll be fast the best thing i give you about uncle joe he is as i said my mentor is someone i was extremely close with but he is always going to be one of my biggest critics like i am to myself and in that moment he said to me personally if he could have saw the season if he could have actually seen every episode he would have never said anything like that he was holding on to what he saw on the tennis court and he's a stern guy that sticks to his opinion and he was just like are you sure you're being yourself because I was awkward and he felt that correctly but yeah he's just he just was he's happy with it now but he was just being a little tough that no that's interesting because he does know you so well so I think people

did hear his opinion and go like okay like this is someone super close to him like this has weight to it but he was both right and wrong you were off and you maybe weren't being 100% yourself but for not because you were on a TV show and not like you were being like that the whole time for sure okay so as the bachelor what are you looking for oh such a good question i really i keep saying it but it's truthful i'm i'm looking for my person like yeah and i know for me as i've gotten older i've realized that there isn't a type it's more about a personality and a type of person and i just need someone that's willing to really be open and taken on life with me i want someone adventurous i want someone that's going to love every day and try to make the most of it so

I don't know what that looks like. I'm one of those people that believe I'll know when I see it, but I'm just really excited for the idea that I might actually find that person. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face.

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I decided to take a little bit of a break. I'm living in Philadelphia area with my sister. Okay. So I moved. out there just to, I knew this month was going to be crazy. I didn't know if it was going to be what it is now. And I'm very glad that I decided to make that move. But yeah, I just kind of knew that I needed to take a break from Hawaii while I figured out what all this was going to be. So I'm currently in Philly. So taking a little break. Nice, nice. So let's break down tonight then.

Tonight you were announced as the bachelor. Let's start with like how did that feel? Again, surreal. Like it's still sinking in by the minute. Yeah, in this moment. what are your thoughts on the two women in the audience and then only one of them getting chosen? I felt terrible for me. But I also am on the side that it's probably good because for me, for this season in general moving forward, like I care a lot. I think about other people. And for me, I was like, I feel so bad for the other girl. Leah was amazing. I can go on that forever. She seemed awesome. Can't wait for her to be on the season to get to know her more. But I also know in this role, like you're sometimes going to have to be like just thinking about yourself and being a little bit more selfish than I naturally would be.

So she seems amazing. The other girl, I think her name was Anne. I didn't really see her. Annie. She seemed awesome. I don't know if she'll still be on this season or what will happen. But yeah, all I can go off is the girl I actually talked to and Leah seems awesome. What do you think was in the card?

I don't know. It's kind of, it's threw me for a loop. I like that they're trying to change things up. I really do. But yeah, I was like, what are we doing? like a card what does this mean we were like girlfriend like hold it up to the light like what is in that envelope she can see if you can see something she was funny though she said right away to me she's like these girls are going to hate me when i walk into this house like she's aware of it already

that that's good that's a little bit of a game changer i was like you'll be fine it's okay we'll be okay oh i'd be hiding that envelope by watching the house and you're like no one needs to know all those girls are probably watching tonight too are going to so they know it's it's gonna be there yeah wow i didn't even think about that to be honest that's crazy that's gonna be a fun It's a new wrinkle. That's never been on the show, which is why I think it's exciting. I hope it's not anything too crazy, but that's, I don't know what it is. Wow. We'll see. We'll see what Charity ends up, you know, having her fairy tale love story. She did fall in love with two guys. Are you worried at all about falling in love with multiple women? 100%. Yeah. It's just truthful. I know from her side and just how it was.

She did such a good job of really giving all of herself to the person she was with, and I'm hoping to do the same, that I did really believe that what we had was just for us. And I can see that just from this, if you have a lot of amazing people and you're giving all of yourself, that can happen. I don't know how I'll navigate it. I don't know if I'll say I love you to two people. That's something I won't know, Tom, in that moment. Be careful.

I know it's possible. I love you. I get it. I get it. Trust me. Be careful. I know what it was from my side when someone says it to you, how much it does change your mindset, but I can also be honest that I wouldn't have gotten to the

point to be able to get down on one knee if she didn't say that to me. So there's both sides of it. And I know she was just being honest and truthful to how she was feeling and I couldn't ask for anything else. So again, I don't know. I'm hoping I'm not dropping a lot of I love you bombs, but I can fall hard. So I got to be careful on my hand. Oh my gosh. Do you have any other big fears going into the season? Yeah. I think it's natural in general to have a fear of losing yourself in some way. I mean, this is crazy. This is going to be something that no one ever preps you for. So yeah, just, you know, staying present. I think I'm really, that's my going to be my mantra and my goal through this is to consistently stay present. And if I have a

fear, it's the lack of staying present, thinking too much ahead, getting lost in all of it, and forgetting why you actually are here. So that's really where I'm not worried about it. I just, that's where my head's at. Well, maybe that's like something you end up looking for and the girls is like finding someone that helps you stay present. Yeah, yeah. Is there anything else that maybe you're looking for in these women? Like, I know you said you don't have a type, but like going in, like specifically in this process. I obviously talked about the idea of someone being adventurous, but I would also say if someone

that can just kind of command a room, give you that sense of comfortability. I want funny. I want fun. I want people not take things so serious. Yeah, I'm just looking for someone that mirrors me very well. challenges me too. I just, I could go down a huge list of things I would love in a woman, but at the same time, it's, I'll know. I know. I just will know. Yeah. If you can travel anywhere on this season, where do you want to go?

I, I mean, I've been lucky enough to go to Europe, but I would love to go again and anywhere in Europe. Honestly, I've been to Italy, Spain, all those different spots, but I would love to go through Europe again. Asia has been on top of my list, like a Tokyo or Japan type or something like that. And Australia has been there for a bit for me, too. I've always wanted to go to Australia since I've been a kid. So that's, obviously, I just said like three of the continents in the world, but, you know, let's try to. Let's go there. Yeah, because I, there's a lot to travel to, so I'm open to it. Well, let's hope the travel team is listening to your suggestion. Yeah, yeah. Take note of that, please. I gave a lot of options. Australia, all of Europe and

Asia. Yeah, every single place in Europe and then anywhere in Asia. When you went on the Bachelorette, Were you ready to get engaged? Were you some of the you thought you were there? Yeah, I think if I'm being completely honest, I would have to say I don't know. My idea going on to the show was it was like something I couldn't pass up. Like what could this be? What could come out of it? I don't know.

But if it was any chance of me finding my forever person, that was the real thing that was driving me. And I know personally I grew a ton through it and had to look within and find out that I really do want this so by the end i'm a thousand percent sure that i was ready to get engaged but going in if i was on a lie detector test i might have i might have bing the wrong way because i i was that's fair that's not that's yeah that's an honest answer i think that's and i think that's the right way to go into the show i think anyone that's like i want to get engaged right now because you have to know the person how can i say i'm going to get engaged if i don't even know charity was an idea at that time and i didn't know if our connection was going to be strong enough

so the idea of getting engaged has to do with the individual it has nothing to do with I'm at. Yeah. I agree. Would you have gone on Paradise? Hell no. Really? Why not? I, I, it's just me personally. I am not interested in ever fighting over a girl with multiple dudes again.

Yeah. That's just me. I thought I was so lucky with how our season went that the guys were so amazing. There were so much, so many levels of respect that I thought I got away with. Like, I know how it can be. So I was just, I, yeah, the idea of fighting over a girl with multiple guys again. It worked for you guys and I've seen the success. It's not that I don't believe it.

I just, me, person, it was not interested in that again. No, that's totally fair. It's not, it's not for everyone. Just, just shitting on paradise. No. It works. It's been more, it's as successful as possible to see couples like you. Will you be watching your boys?

Are you kidding? You think I'm not watching my boys? I'm fully in. I cannot wait for this season. I got so many of the guys that I care about deeply that are going to be in it. Yeah, it's going to be. fun. I'm excited for it. Yeah, it'll be a fun season. One more I'm going to hit you with. Are you at all worried about potentially falling for someone and her not being there? Yeah, I would probably add it to

the list when you ask things I'm afraid of because, yeah, if this ends with two heartbreaks in a row, your boy's going to be hurting for a bit. We don't want that. We don't want that. We don't want it. But yeah, it's truthful that that that's a possibility. And I don't know, I think love's reciprocated. So I don't think I'll be feeling it unless someone else is bringing it to me as well. So I'm hopeful that won't happen. But I know from being on it, how stressful it is towards the end and how quickly that engagement comes. And there's a lot of emotions. So it's going to have to do with the communication and the honesty at that time. And if we can really get to that point, but I'm open to try to work with whoever I think my person's going to be. Awesome. All right. Well, are you excited?

Heck yeah, I'm excited. I'm going to be unbelievable. Yeah, I'd be crazy to say I'm not excited. All right, Joey, thank you so much for coming on. Happy Hour. We cannot wait for your season of The Bachelor. It's going to be a lot of fun to watch. And to our listeners, we love you guys. Thank you so much. And we will have lots more exclusive interviews just like this one,

dropping every single week. So be sure to subscribe and continue to tune in. Joey, thank you so much for coming. And we will see you guys soon. Bye. Bye. Thanks, guys. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast.

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