Bachelor Happy Hour - EXCLUSIVE: Pascal Sets the Record Straight

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Bachelor Nation’s favorite Frenchman is not holding back! In his candid conversation with Joe and Serena, Pascal reveals what in Joan he was initially attracted to, why he wasn’t convinced he was sticking around the mansion for long, and how he felt about his daughter surprising him by signing him up for the show. Then, he reveals what led him to “freaking out” in Tahiti, how he feels about Joan and Chock as a couple, and exactly how young is too young when it comes to looking for a romantic partner. Plus, have any of the Golden women caught his eye?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

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And I'm Serena. And we are here with Pascal. Pascal, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. How are you? Thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm feeling very good. Thank you.

Feeling good. How's life in, you know, I'm from Chicago? Which part of Chicago are you from? So I'm from a town called Melrose Park. Okay, I know where it's Melrose Park, yeah. I live downtown Chicago in Lincoln Park, but my businesses were in downtown on well, Glenview and Glencoe and Bucktown, yeah. Okay.

How you like Lincoln Park? I love Lincoln Park. I love the fact that I'm about five minutes away from the heart of downtown, but I have the peace and quiet of the suburbs. So Lincoln Park is a great place to live. Yeah. I like that area, too. That's my favorite area.

Are you from Chicago, too? Am I from Chicago, too? No, I'm from Toronto, Canada. But when Joe and I got together, he was living in Chicago, who was in the West Loop. So we spent quite a bit of time there. Yeah, the West Loop. Did you see what happened with the West Loop?

I mean, Bob, it's boomie, pool me. Restaurant, nightclub. She's just crazy. I remember when it was just the meatpacking district. Exactly. It was just to get there. You'd be a couple places to go, and the rest was like. Like, wow, what's going on?

You've seen what happened with it now. It's mind-boggling. How long have you been in Chicago for? I've been in Chicago since 1980. So I've been there for quite a long time, almost 40-some years, 44 years. Wow. Okay. We have to, when we're coming in town for, we live in New York,

but we're coming in town for Thanksgiving, we have to come to your salon. Definitely. I love to take you at Virginia and show you a bit, you know, Chicago, but I would love to take you at 14a. If you're in town, you know, it'd be fun to show you a bit my Chicago. Do you have a favorite French restaurant in Chicago? You know what? French is actually, it's a passive food now.

It's not really what's selling. It's more like a Greek fusion, Middle Eastern. That's what the trend is. I mean, there is a restaurant who opened, a couple restaurants open. Actually, one is Obelix, which is by the Lvush. And then they open another one, which is a La Grande Boucherie, which is a French restaurant. And I've used to see Mon Ami Gabi, which is a classic who's been there for years. But it seems like now it's more like a fusion, like Greek fusion, Middle Eastern.

That's not what's selling in Chicago now. Okay. All right. That's good to know. How let's get into the show? How did you wind up on a show like The Golden Bachelorette? So that was very interesting. I ended up a relationship over three years.

And my daughter thought that would be a great bachelor. Okay, she said, dad, I've seen the show. My daughter is very much into the bachelor and the bachelor and all that stuff. And to be quite an issue, you mean, I haven't really been watching the show. So don't, you know, it's not something I'm usually watched, but now I'm hooked up to it. So my daughter said, oh, you should be in the bachelor. you your personality, you look, your lifestyle, they love you, they love you, they love you, I'm going to apply for you.

And then asking me tons of questions, and then all of a sudden, and she called me about three weeks later and said, Dad, I hope you're not going to be mad. I said, with my daughter, my older daughter, he's always, what did you do? Okay. And she said to me, I sign you up for the Golden Bachelor Head. I said, what is the Golden Bachelor? I see Billboard of the Bachelor, but I never really want you. I said, Dad, you should do it, you should do it, you should do.

I said, Natalie, let me look at the show. Let me see if it's something I want to do, and then we'll talk about it. So I come up the next day. I talked to my manager, Lisa, which we see a couple of minutes ago. And I said, what do you think? If I go into Bachelor, Babashezsche, oh, Pascal, you definitely, that's up your alley. I said, okay, so I went home that night. I watched three episodes of the Golden Bachelor Head until John Exit.

And I get the message. I understand the concept is one guy, 25 women. women, 25 women, one guy. So I said, okay, that's that. I got the concept. So I come back to an exit. So what are you going to do? I said, I don't know. I want to know who's going to be the bachelor's head because, you know, I mean,

I'm kind of picky kind of guy, you know, I mean, I just. I have my, I have my, my, my, my friends. So I said, you know, she said, there is anyone you like in the show. I said, yeah, there's a couple women have been interested, but the rest really know, you know. So the agent called me and said, so are you signing you up? Are you sending you up? And I said, no, no, I'm not signing up until I know who it is

because I don't want to go into the show and pretend to be something I'm not. So they finally called me a few weeks later after going to all the process of them. And they said to me, that's John. Are you in? I say, yes, I'm in. So that's how I end up going into the bachelor. Nice. Who were the other women that you potentially would have been interested?

the one with the gray hair that pretty woman with the gray hair oh yes yeah eat yes yes that she's attractive you know i said because i couldn't go into the show and just pretend i don't need fame and glory i have fame and glories you know i just wanted to go there and see if there is a potential and and the experience as well i think it's it's quite of a you know in my age to be able to do that it's it's quite of a you know i'm grateful you know what was what was dating life for you like before you went on the Golden Bachelorette. Honestly. Yeah.

No problem. I have no problem. Dating has never been my problem. My problem is the wrong choice of women. And, you know, there is a lot of alcohol involved, which I don't drink. And that's the biggest issue. I think the wrong shows of women, but dating has never been a problem. Okay.

Yeah. What if you're going on a date in Chicago, with a woman, what do you usually do? I mean, I like good food, so I would go to a nice restaurant and, you know, maybe on a second day, maybe go to a play or, you know, I mean, a symphony or, you know, or maybe go to a jazz club or, you know, I mean, I'm a very riskful about dating. I think I utilize the city very well, so I have all my connection in some good restaurant and the music, you know, I like musical, I like, you know, I like concert.

I like, I just went to see Sebastian last week. So, you know, I'm always doing some time. I book in advance. Sebastian Manuscalco, the comedian? Just so maturely, I took one of the bachelor with Miguel to the show. I was sitting him for a week, and I tried to show him in Chicago. And so went to see Sebastian, and I took him to a bear game on the field. So it was kind of fun.

good time. Yeah. Yeah. How long have you, have you always not drink alcohol? I've never drink alcohol. I've left the army in 1974, no, I left the army in 1979, something like that. And join my training in France, as you know, military is mandatory. You've got to do it for one year before the age 21, unless you have a higher education. So when I was in the army, I drink, I smoke, and I was screwed up every day and then when i left the army and 19 years old i said i'm down and i haven't touched alcohol since i'm 19 years old not not because i'm a recovery alcoholic is i choose not too i like to be in control i like to see my surround in and i don't need alcohol or drugs to get me where i am i'm already on the high as it is you know so if i was drinking or doing drug i'll be

out of control so and i have a business that's a very young age and i've was very responsible. I was committed to succeed. And you can't, you can succeed when you party too much. Yeah. It's probably why you're aging so well, too. I'm sorry?

I said it's probably why you're aging so well also. Thank you. And then walk into the gym and eat good food. Yes, you take good care of yourself. Yeah, that's right. You know, buddies you temple and you got to take care of it. What you give is what you get, you know. So let's, let's go to that first, that first night out of the limo.

You step out of the limo. You see Joan for the first time in person. what's going through your mind in that moment? You know, interesting, I wasn't the first one stepping above the limo in the show. They showed me the first one. I was the fifth guy stayed up in the limo. When I saw John, I found that she was very attractive, very well put together, wearing a beautiful dress. And I said, wow, kind of, and I'm interested.

She's got my attention. And I went to talk to her for a couple of minutes, introduced myself. And then I went to the mansion and guy keep popping and popping and popping and popping. And I said, whoa, okay, this is. lot of people in here, you know, where do I stand? So when you have that group of people, you try to find a bit you pee, who you feel comfortable with. So it was kind of interesting because we engaged a lot, a lot of conversation with everybody to try to find out the connection. And then I see them all going to the bar and start drinking and start getting

loose. And I'm looking at it. Okay, who is, you know, I was trying to figure out with my surrounding. So it was interesting to see they come from different background. They come in different side, different shape, which is a very interesting. So then, then John comes up and then she starts talking to all of us. And then obviously they asked me to be the first one to take her out, to talk to her, which I didn't want to because I felt like I didn't want to sound like the French aggressive kind of guy, you know, I'm not, I'm more passive than aggressive. And so I took John, and I was on Father's Day, so my son gave me a card of, you know, I raised my son from the age as a single parent, so he gave me a card, and I read her the card, and I said to her and

I have a lot of respect for you because I know that you're wearing the show and you live because in a family emergency, and that's really what attracted me to you because you have strong family values, and that's important to me, and that's why I'm here, and, you know, we have a nicer her conversation and then she went from her and another and another, you know. Did you, did you feel, did you feel a spark or a connection with her from that sort of conversation? Yeah, I mean, I think I felt definitely then what, what I felt remarkable about her is she's very engaging.

She was able to ask question and engage your conversation. It was easy. Some people are very difficult. You know, yes, no, yeah, no. She was very engaging. I found that very attractive in a woman, a woman who, who, who. could handle the conversation. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.

Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. You get one of the first one-on-one dates very early on in the season. How was that? Were you nervous about it? Were you excited? I mean, I have the second one-on-one dates, actually, because I think Chuck had the first one.

Chuck went to the house, and then I went to Vegas. I think I was flattered because I didn't think I've made that big of an impact on her. You know, I mean, I think I spent five minutes. I think a kid got the first. impression rows. So, and I look at Keith and I look at me and we're completely the opposite kind of guys. So I said, okay, so maybe I'm not going to be here that long because if that she liked Keith, I mean, I'm gone about a couple of hours from here. I'm going back home. And then when she announced me that she wanted to go with me on a date, I was very excited because

that gave me the chance to get to know her and have a conversation on and off the camera. And then I had the overnight date, which is at, I think I have the longest date with her because we went to Vegas and, you know, went to the Paris Hotel. We had dinner, the fair suite, and then we came back the next day together. So it was very interesting because I got to know her a bit more on a personal level. I was able to ask her question about her husband and how long they passed away, what was he doing, the children, and a little bit, know a little bit about her life. So it's like a peeling an onion, you peel the layer. So I felt like after our trip, we knew he shot a little bit better. And I definitely felt like there was chemistry between us.

You know, I think she was attracted to me. I think I think she lacked my personality because I was trying to make her forgive every time and just enjoy the moment versus talking about my past, which I had to do during the dinner to show a little bit where I come from. But it was kind of a fun night. It was like just getting her to shadow and just enjoying the evening. And then that's, I felt comfortable with it. Yeah, we saw you open up to her about your past, your childhood, how you grew up.

How was it sharing that with her and how do you feel like she received it? You know, it's not easy for me to open up. I think I'm pretty reserved. I'm very, how you call it? I don't like people to know much about who I, am where I come from because that's that's not something I share often with people but I think I wanted her to know that I'm not just a designer kind of guy wherever you know this wasn't giving to me I work for it where I come from I needed her to understand where I come

from where my childhood was you know I mean you know my parents didn't believe much in education and you do something wrong is the it's the shoes the belts or the broom and that's the way they control you and you know when i left france i was very angry i was upset i hated my parents for who they were and and then you know it took me many years to forgive them because i understood where they come from this is the way they were raised so they raised me the way they were raised but that marked me during my lifetime that that make me who i am and so it was very hard for me to open up and share that with her, but I knew I needed to do that because I didn't want her to have the impression and I'm the rich guy who come up from a golden spoon and, and I'm,

you know, so it was important for me for her to know then life wasn't like that when I grew up and I work to build the lifestyle I have today. so a self-made man like yourself who's worked really hard and i'm assuming you have you have nice things in your life what was it like living in a bunk bed with a bunch of guys so so you know what this is a very interesting question because first of all i didn't you know i mean am i i sound naive okay but when they said the mention and i've been to mention in the past okay yeah where there is a butler where there is a housekeeper or where there is a maid, cook, and everything.

So when they were talking to mention, I thought the mansion was coming with the staff, who was taking care of tents for you, you know, like cooking, cleaning, and stuff like that. And then I realized it was nothing like that. And I'm not really a domesticated kind of guy. You know, I don't do much of show at home. You know, I mean, I 99% of the time I dine out,

at that dine out, have a housekeeper who come out a couple times a week who take care of my apartment. apartment. You know, very rarely I go grocery. So, you know, there's nothing in my fridge. My pots and pants still in the box for the last 12 years. So it was so when I move into the mansion and they give me the room, honestly, guys, I had an anxiety attack. I had a flashback of where I came from. And he was scary to me. I didn't show lead. So I tried to fake it out by coming up with the clothes and the bullshit. But I had such an anxiety. because I said, I'm back to where I come from. And I didn't know those guys. So I said, how am I going to handle that? And I never showed my fear because I didn't want them to see that.

But it was difficult. And then I said, Pascal, you got to stick with the program. This is the way it is. Go with the flow. It's a short period of time. You'll get used to at the elevator. And I'm worried. My laundry, my cooking, and I didn't want to sound like the primaries.

Madonna, you know, but so I asked guys if you could help me with the laundry, asked Mark to help me with cooking, and he ended up being an incredible experience. I mean, he was just, you know, if somebody said to me, would you do it again? I definitely, I think it was an incredible experience for me, you know, and he took my fear away from me. So I know I've never been to camp, okay, I never went to college. So I never had that community living besides my childhood where we're sleeping. 8 in a room. So it kind of interesting, but it was fun. Nice. I'm glad that was a good experience

for you. You mentioned, so like if, for instance, if Joan likes Keith, you know, how could she really be into you? You guys are so different and so many of the guys were different in the house. When did you realize, because you do make it to the end, when do you realize that Joan favors you over majority of the men? You know what? To be honest with you, I didn't know. I went with the flow. I mean, I think if you could see in what the episode, John said to me, do you want to be here? And I say, yes. I said, why? I said, because you're always in the back. You know, you never, you know, you never push your way in front. I said, look, I said, I'm not that kind of guy. I said, I know I'm going to have my 15 minutes with you. And with my 15

minute, that's up to me to shine and show you the type of person I am. But I'm not the kind of guy who's going to push Keith and chalk and guys to be in front of her. That's not my person. humanity. And when I went through the, I mean, I was myself, I didn't pretend to be anything else. And she keep bringing me alone and alone and alone. And I think she lacked my energy. I think, you know, when I was with Joan, it was just having fun. It was just having a good time. And I think that's what she lacks about me because, you know, in the house, I've seen a lot of struggle. I've seen a lot of pain. I've seen a lot of anxiety from those men who lost their wife who still in love wasn't let go yet. You know, I come into the house, free like a man, I mean, I had an easy divorce, my ex-wife and our best friend, we raise our kid with love. And so I haven't really, besides my childhood, I haven't really struggled to any of losing a loved one.

You know, I lost my parents. But, you know, so I was in a different place than me. most of those guys, and that's maybe what she liked about me, you know, and, you know, I was being myself. Yeah. And you're also, you're also a well-dressed, handsome man. I mean, how could you not like you, you know? Thank you.

Thank you. I appreciate that. You got it. So I mean, fashion industry. I got to, you know, I mean, I own a plush salon. I mean, I have four locations, you know, I got to, I got to be the, the, the, the, the face of my business, you know. Yeah.

I can come up in Beijing and, and, you. You know, sometimes it's very funny, which I know a talk is funny. When I grew up, we had a hole in our gene because we couldn't have four the genes. Okay. I mean, we had holes everywhere. The gene were tear down. And now, tear down jeans is fashion. They didn't know I was fashionable.

You're a trendsetter, Pascal. I didn't know that. So, so funny. But, you know, life is good. You know, life is good. You got to have a positive attitude. You got to leave the moment. So don't focus so much in yesterday because there is nothing you can change.

The only thing you could do is learn from your success and failure and apply it to the present. And tomorrow, it's unknown. So just enjoy the time. And that's what I did when I went to the mission. I enjoy my time. We saw you made it all the way to hometowns. What did it mean to be able to bring Joan home, show her your business and have your children be a part of this experience? You know, I never thought I would make it to hometown to be in a street.

I was like, wow, okay, so I'm, you know, I mean, you know, I know, I know that some of them were much more aggressive than I was. Some of them were really, like, already said her word, I'm in love. And I never said that to Joan. I care very much about her as a person. I'm trying to get to know her. So going home was quite of an interesting experience, and I wanted my children to meet. John and validated and tell me what they think of us and show you my business will be what I do and you know I'm in the feel good business I'm in the business where people

are happy they don't you know I'm not a divorce attorney where people are fighting with each other or I'm not a criminal attorney I'm in I'm in the feel good business people come to me they love being here they live happy so I'm fortunate then that's I was able to shoulder that. And as you could see, I'm very much loved by my team. They speak very highly about me. They have a lot of respect for me. And because I value the guy who sweep the floor to the girl who's shampoo, to the girl who was in charge of my salon, I treat them, all of them with the same respect. It's not because you sweep the floor than you less than the one who run my salon. So I think I have a different model about how I treat my team.

And so that was very good for me to bring her into my business, for her to meet my people and have a little bit of their feeling told me as a person, and then bring her into my home. And that was fun. There was a lot of fun, actually. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.

So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend, really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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run right i'm looking at this thing listen to no such thing on the i heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts okay so let's let's go to the moment um in the tropical location the tropical location where you have to uh you know where you you you basically you know you you break it off with Joan because you know you're just you're just not in love with her can you you take us back to that moment what was going on in your mind and and how that went down you know I think I think to me you know the way I look at it is I didn't have enough time with her you know and then she took me to some time who freak me out a little bit I mean you know I would have preferred going diving with the sharks which have down or driving and

a UV to the mountain, which I love, which I raised cars. She took me to a ceremony, which is in the island, is what they call a wedding, basically. And then I freaked out a bit. I just felt like I went too fast too quick. I felt very uncomfortable with the ceremony as much as I tried to have fun with the Worcester and the this and the death. And I realized then, you know, I just don't have what it takes to be able to

give her what she's looking for and I know that those two guys behind me were so much in love with her then I didn't want to waste her time on me knowing that there is couple guys behind me you are really really much in love with her and I said it's time for me to exit and there is not an easy way to say goodbye you know I mean I think it's it's it's painful and she was hurt because she felt like she wasn't lovely and you know and that's so and the show after her crying. I didn't know she had that much feeling for me. But the older time also who freak me out a little bit,

not freak me out, who really give me doubt that, give me, I'm sorry, give me comfort for me to leave. It's when I said to her, I said, you know, we were 24 guys to star. Why me?

Why did you choose me? And then she said the wrong answer. You remind me my husband. I don't want to remind you anybody. I want you to look at me as me. I would have preferred her to say, you know, I love your personality. I love you charming. I love the guys like you.

I love your sorts of humor. I love your lifestyle. I think to me that would have been a little bit more appealing. And I think, John, I felt during the journey, was not over. And I think I felt like me not being a widow, it's hard for. for me to relate to the lost, but I think she should have focused on me and on us versus bringing the deleted husband all the time. And that was, to me, that was the time where I said, Pascal, we need to go out, we need to leave.

Do you think if your date that day had been, instead of the ceremony, you had gone swimming with sharks or out on a boat, and she had given you a different answer to that question, do you think those two pieces would have maybe made you stay another week? Definitely. Definitely. I think I think if you would have taken me to somewhere fun and having a good time and being kids again and I love sports car, I raise them. I love diving, which I dove with a shark before.

So, you know, that's the time we're enjoying and shoulder them. That's the life I lack, okay? That's number one. Number two is the answer she gave me at the table about, remind me you're on the, you're on the journey. So to me, you dare to meet somebody. The past is the past. There is nothing you can change about the past. But don't bring the past all the time and compare, because there was a comparison there all the time. And I'm not here to, I'm not here to replace him. I'm here for her to see me for who I am and what I have to offer. And I think those

two times would have changed. I think I would have go to the Fantasy Suite. I think we would have a conversation and see where this is leading. Yeah, I was going to ask you, do you think, you know, do you think if the process, if you had more time with Joan, even leading up to that to the moment before you guys broke up, if you had a decent amount of more time with Joan, do you think you could have fell in love with her or do you think she just wasn't your person? You know, when you're talking love, okay, and I've said that in the past, it takes time to feel in love with someone, okay?

takes time. It takes days to get to know each other. It takes communication. It takes argument to see how we argue, how we make up, agree to disagree about subject, having the cemetery. So would have felt the connection? Yes, to move to love. It's time. As you think then said to someone I met for for 24 hours and six weeks that I'm in love with you it's not really realistic you know do you think if it was a different person you would ever be able to fall in love and propose at the end of this journey if you were to do it again or do you just think it's not the right fit in terms of timeline I think I think you know I mean I speak frankly with you I think, you know, when you take my daughter, my 32-year-old daughter, or my 25-year-old son,

and then you put him into the bachelor or the bachelorette, okay? And they both go into the journey, and my son is in Chicago, and he meets, he fell in love with the girl who live in California. The two of them are in transition into their life, okay? They are looking for identity. They are looking for a job. They're not secure. They don't own anything.

And they don't rent, they're still renting, they're looking for jobs. So it's easy to say, hey, honey, why don't you move to Chicago or why don't move to California? And the two of us could blend a penny together and build a laugh together. But when you reach your guys of our age who are implanted, our roots are deep down the ground. Okay. And I have my business. I have my connection. I have my Titor suppression.

I have my friend. I have, you know, have a, this Chicago is my mind. life, okay? For me to to pack my staff and move to Maryland or move to Wichita, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. And the other questions, are you financially secure to be able to pop in a plane and go see somebody every other weekend or fly that person over the weekend? I mean, I have the mean for that. So it's no problem. But eventually, if John was very interesting. If I was the Golden Bachelor and I meet a woman which I went on a one-on-one date and I really enjoy your connection, I will take her again on a one-on-one date

because I think she waste time with people who have no future with her. Okay. She went on seven dates and two of them were a fiasco, basically. You know what I mean? You know, so to me, why don't you focus on the guy you want and then give them more attention and get to know better, that's what I will have down. But again, that's, I'm not the show. So seeing Joan and Chok together, how do you feel about them that looks like they're really happy? How do you feel about them being together now? I'm very happy for them. As you think, then, the Chalk was very much into John from the day first. He had the first one-on-one date. He's a great guy. I wish him and John, many years of happiness, and I think they make a very nice couple, and I wish them

the very best, and I wish them a lot of success in their future. You're, you know, after watching your journey back in your kids seeing everything, what did they think about Pascal on the show? You know, for my son, I'm a zero. You know, my other time, you've done a great job. I said, Dad, you know, you're funny, you're really, you want. and had a great time, you know, and the respond of my family and my friend and the social media has been extremely positive, extremely positive. I am so grateful to have experienced that

and be part of that journey with Joan and all the guys. She's incredible, incredible for me. So then what is next for Pascal? Are you dating? Are you focusing on your business? What is life like now that the show's over. Are you hanging out at the bar at Gibson's Italia? What are you doing? No, no, no, no. He's a polo bar guy. I am not dating anyone.

I'm just taking a break. I just want to be focused on me, you know, and I'm just to, you know, do a lot. I have a hobby, which is photography. I do a lot of photography, so I belong to a club. So I got a bunch of guys. We go, I'm not looking for a relationship right now. I just want to take a break. I'm focused on my business

I don't really hang in bars to pick up girls you know that's not my that's not my fan you know my kid are very proud of me and they said that you handle yourself very well my staff

keep telling me then I should be the next golden bachelor I said you know what you know this isn't this we got time for that they just focus on the success I've always said and you know I get my 15 minutes of fame and, you know, I'm going to fade away like we all do. And then that's

the way life goes, you know. Okay. So when you are ready to start dating again or settle down, what are you looking for in a woman? What's your type? My type is a woman who has elegance about herself, a woman who I could, you know, take everywhere and be proud of. Someone who has a sense of passion, someone who has a life on her own, who doesn't depend of me to survive. And I'm not, I'm not, you know, I know that he has been a comment and I'm not dating as 72 years old, but I'm not dating a 50 years old either. Okay. I want to set that the record straight. I mean, the women I go out with are in the mid-50s to early 60s. Okay. And that's the type of I like, a woman who's been to a full life, a woman who has been a mother, so she understands

what it is to give and take, a woman who has a, who has a sense of passion, a woman who enjoy food, a woman who likes to travel, who's adventurous, a woman who likes to work out to get physically fit, if it's yoga, paladi, or whatever, I think a woman who enjoy art, which I like to go to a lot of art galleries and expositions. And a woman, Women, we have to have fun, women who is secure, and a woman who doesn't drink too much. I think the drinking has always been a problem, you know. All right, Pascal. Last question I want to ask you before we let you go.

People have seen so much of you now on the show, but what's one thing you wish they would have learned about you that they may not have been able to during your time on the Golden Bachelorette? well with the mean i think i think my representation of the show after i've seen every episode i like the way i was projected from from the network you know i have no complaint i think they showed me my sense of humor they showed me my sense of passion they showed me my heart i think i was open about my feeling i think i'm a i'm a giver you know i'm the kind of guy who like to give because i feel like I'm fortunate and I'm, I'm involved in a lot of charity. I like to help people.

You know, I think it's important for me. Then, you know, I'm blessed and grateful to have done the world with my life. And I feel like it's time for me to start giving away a little bit and not only my time, but my money. And I just want people to look at me as the fun guy, the guy who's got fun, the guy who you could talk to, you know. And that's basically it, you know. I love that. I love that. Well, Pascal, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day and coming to talk to us. We really appreciate it. And it was lovely meeting you. Thank you very much. A pleasure of meeting you. When you come in Chicago, just give me a call, okay? We're going to go off with you now. Okay. We will. We will. I will. I will. Nice to meet you. To all our listeners, thank you guys so much for tuning in the Bachelor Happy Hour. We'll have exclusive interviews for you every week. Thanks so much for tuning in.

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