Bachelor Happy Hour - Exclusive: Tayshia & Zac Talk What’s Next

Episode Date: December 23, 2020

In their podcast exclusive, newly engaged Bachelorette Tayshia Adams and Zac Clark talk about their fairy-tale ending, when they each knew the other was “the one,” and what their plans are now. Find out where the couple plans to live now that the show is over and when Tayshia might get those “five babies.” Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We saw her have her happy ending. And here we are again at the end with another. happy ending? What is happening? We're back to normal Bachelor franchise endings. What is this? What is 2020? I think we're making up for a lot like all of the past seasons that didn't work out. Yeah. Well, I'm glad. I'm happy to see a happy ending, especially with what 2020 has been. And it's great that I'll just say this, that the Bachelor franchise was able to like set a precedent. Other shows followed. Figure this out. you know and work to give us the show that we all know and love and you know there was so much sacrifice so much time so much just effort put into this season you know with and then the historic season that it is with with claire and then the transition to tasha claire set in her own

rules then tasha picking you know grabbing the baton from her only to follow the rules again but to give us another happy ending so guys quite naturally it's the end So, of course, we're going to have the happy couple. We're going to be sitting down with them and talking to Tasha and Zach. Forget what you heard and what the rumors were. You saw the episode last night. Tasha and Zach are engaged. They're still engaged.

We're going to be talking to them. So we're going to get into all of it. There's really no time to waste. Of course, Becca, we've got to talk about what we saw this episode because there was somebody else involved. Yes, there was. As much as we want to just live in the moment of all this love. that we saw go down between Tasha and Zach. There was still another guy.

Well, two guys at the very top of the episode, which this whole like little swapper route. I mean, we talked about it last week on the podcast when we had Brendan. Like, we didn't think Tasha was going to say yes and bring Ben back. And, you know, they needed one more episode to switch it up at the beginning. So it was very interesting how it all began. And I want to save the really exciting burning questions, obviously, for the happy couple themselves. But I think we just start at the beginning and go through it really quick to get to the good stuff because there's so much that I do want to ask them. Yeah, I know we talked about this, Ben coming back, and we didn't think it was going to happen.

So when you saw Ben walk at, well, no, no, I shouldn't even ask when you saw him walk into the row ceremony. When you saw Tasia kiss him goodbye before the row ceremony, what was going through your brain? You sit him home for a reason. You have to stand true in that. You can't, you know what I mean? like it's easy to it's you have to make such quick decisions in a short amount of time and it's like you you know why you send him home you thought about it you made your decision just because he changed his mind doesn't mean you need to change hers but i understood the kiss because let's not take away

from the fact that she did have strong feelings for ben and then he comes back and he professes this love and that's what she's always wanted to hear and she got caught up in the moment and i can't say i would I probably would have done the same thing I don't know if I would have let him stay but I definitely would have gone in for that kiss there's a really weird moment and I've had this conversation with some of the past leads and some of the producers

because there was one moment on my season where I had sent I don't remember who it was home and as I was saying goodbye to them I wanted to kiss them because I was so used to that and it was like this weird like oh I want to but I can't because we basically broke up but like I still like you and care about you and I think

that's what she was feeling um by that point i mean she had already invited him to the rose ceremony so we know he's showing up but yeah you know i i i'm trying to put myself in her position and to like try to relive that last week where there's so much emotion wrapped up into everything and all these three relationships i i don't know i feel like at at that point whether it like played out like this or not i feel like she was pretty much sold on sack i feel like she went into that rose ceremony when there were still three of them left knowing it was going to be him. And so that last little swap that we saw, I think it was just her being like, well, at the end of this, like my heart knows what it wants type thing. Yeah. Yeah. No, I completely agree with you. You guys have to understand

when he gets to this point, not every lead, but several leads know the decision that they want to make. And my theory is she sent Ivan home because she knew Ivan had very strong feelings and it would have been really hard to send him home as the second guy and give him the hope of meeting her family and really thinking that the next step was happening. She already sent Ben home once. Why not send him home again? You know what I mean? You've already done it once and you've expressed that emotion, you've gotten it all out. So it would have been, in my opinion, easier to send him home a second time. With Ivan, you hadn't gotten there yet.

Ivan really was her second choice. But I think that it was easier to send him home earlier because it would have been really hard to bring him to the next level. Yeah, yeah. I think she knows too that he, I don't know. I just think, not to say Ben's not, but I think Ivan is such a sweetheart. And it's maybe just a little bit more. outwards in his emotions that it would have been tougher at that point.

So, I mean, we can ask her when she's on, but realistically, what's done is done and, you know, hopefully her and Zach are happy. But, um, so yeah, we go into then both Ben and Zach meeting Tasha's family, um, which I think was sweet. I really, I really like her dad. I, you know, watching this back, I have such a soft spot for fathers because I don't have mine. And so every time I see these interactions between anyone and their father, I find super special. And so it was just a fun moment as me, for me as a viewer to watch that. But I like

her dad. Yeah, her dad is definitely a fan favorite. I always like when you bring the families in because it brings that sense of reality into the bubble. Kind of brings them back down. And it checks you. Yeah. I felt like the biggest thing that stood out to me was when Tasia spoke about having that moment with her dad in the car after her breakup. I mean, that was, was heartbreaking. Like, I almost got emotional because I could just feel her. I've never had that, that, I've never been in that situation. But the relationship between a father and her daughter and just saying that her dad,

she knew her dad really felt for her because he couldn't do anything, but be there for her. He couldn't be that father to save her, to protect her. All he could do was comfort her. That was a very raw and real moment. Yeah. And I just, it was maybe one of my favorite moments from the entire season. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it really helped to then also paint the picture going into that conversation when he shows about her door and sits her down and is just like, you know, we went through that. We lived this moment and I couldn't do anything except told you and, you know, be the support system. Like, I'm sure as a parent, you want to take your child's pain away. You don't want them to ever feel that way again if you can help it. And so that's why I think him sitting in her down and be like, think about this because we went through this together and I never want you to experience what we lived through a couple years ago.

And so I think that was really special. It helped us just paint the overall picture of like why he was making that extra step to come visit her and to really sit her down and have her think through. Like what is best for you? Is it an engagement? Is it just ending in a relationship and seeing where it goes? is it ending it with both men like what's going to be best for you in the long run so yeah it was it was special um which then i think editing was kind of weird because you can tell certain things are off

but then she goes into her her last date with zach which is this dance state where it's choreography but she's very much rived up in her head and thinking you know like what am i doing is is zach the one what am i going to do about ben which you know based upon the close choice we know that that's probably not the way it went. Yeah, so basically to sum up, Tasha and Zach's one-on-one after, you know, she had this in-depth, hard, difficult conversation with her father. We kind of feel her nervousness. She's on this date with Zach. They're dancing. There's this choreography, but there's like moments where she's like, what's going on, what's happening? Like, you know, is this right type of thing? And so I think they just needed to get to the nighttime portion where they could just sit down, really just sit face to

face, reaffirm their love for one another. Yeah, what did you think of the one-on-one? It was sweet. It was cute. For a hot second, I was like, she's not going to end up with anyone. What's going on? No, I mean, I know when you get to this point, all the doubt starts to creep in. You're so confident. You know what you want to do, but then there's the doubt. And of course, we'll talk to Tash and Zach about that. The great thing is we don't have to wonder about all that because we have the happy couple right here on the show and we can flush all of that out with them. You know, what I appreciated about this was, you know, when she decided to send Ben home before the proposal, which I'm always a fan of because, you know, especially with Tasha, she's been proposed to before. She knows the gravity of it. You know, we all do. We know it's a big deal. But if you've gone through this before, you understand it on another level. And I think for her, it was, especially after coming off that conversation with her father, it was just important to not let Ben go through that if she already knew what she was going to do. And I think it was probably easier, which we've already said, it was easier for her to do this because she's already

let him go once. And she dealt with the fact that he's gone. He's gone home. And she was confident in her decision. So why not be able to pull that trigger again, especially when it seems like she already had her mind made up? And Ben took it like Ben takes things. I don't even know how deep we want to get into that breakup because, I mean, like you just said, it happened a week ago, too. Yeah, he just like, I don't know where the disconnect is. I think he, he made it there was one phrase I wonder if I have it in my notes

actually that he said I'll tell you this it's hard for when you get down it would have been different if Ben would have left earlier but when you get down to the point

of accepting a proposal how can you trust that this man is going to be there for you and be able to communicate things to you when it comes to the hard times when he couldn't before

you're not always going to be able to run away leave and then think about it and then come back back and I'm still going to be here. And I think that was Tasha's the ultimate decision for Tasha. Yeah. And she said when she, when she first talked to him at the top of the episode, she questioned him. And quote, I think she said, are you going to run away every time something gets hard? And which is a super valid fear and question. And so I think just chalking up these last two guys, you know, Zach's a little bit older. He's just had more life experience.

and he just, I think, was there, like this solid foundation that Tasha needed. Maybe she didn't always realize she needed it, but she's finally starting to see, like, she needs that steadfast man to always support her and be loyal and be committed and be able to have a conversation and have this open dialogue throughout any ups and downs, which Zach is giving her. So, yeah, I do appreciate that she did send Ben home early. I think it's, it saves that last day. for just that one person

and makes it so much more special and you know like had I had the opportunity I probably would have done the same so I appreciated that that she left it for just her and Zach in that last during that last day that last engagement rose ceremony if you will

you know how I feel about indecisiveness Ben is indecisive he's got to figure some things out and get right before he can be the right person in his best self for whatever woman he ends up with you know But right now, timing is everything and timing is not for them.

So we'll reserve the rest of our talk because why talk about it when, you know, we can be about it with this happy couple? I feel like, though, before we get into any of that, we got to talk about the Matt James trailer. I mean, wow. What stood out to you in the trailer other than the cinematography? And I don't even know if that's a phrase you use for television shows, but I'm going to use it because it looks. stunning. It looks so beautiful there. A complete contrast to what we saw this past

season. That's your nation. We're not in Laquinta. We're not in Laquite. We're not sweating our balls off anymore. Thank God they were able to give everyone a break in some cooler weather. But yeah, it was beautiful. I I mean,

blown away by the amount of like beauty on the screen, of course and like Matt James's body. But I truly think we're going to see more tears, more drama than we have seen. Towards the end, you see there's one girl, she calls herself Queen Victoria that stands out that I think is going to be the villain. But what I liked is they showed a little bit more of Matt being vulnerable. Like there's an instance where him and Chris are sitting outside and Chris is like, are you okay? And he's like,

no, no, I'm not. And I think at times as leads, especially for the men, they tried to be like, You know, like, it's okay. It's okay. I got this. And I think we really are going to see Matt, because he has truly never done this before, really own this experience differently than any other lead we've seen. Yeah.

And also not just that. We don't know Matt. Okay, you guys. We don't know him. So we're getting the opportunity not just to meet the women that come on this season. We're going to meet Matt James. We don't know him. You think you know him because you know his best friend.

You think you know him because you might have followed. his crew or seen him on social media, but you don't know him. And I think that will be very interesting about this season. I mean, you can already tell where the storyline's going. The fact that you do see him being vulnerable, as you said, you do see him talking about his mom being a single mother and his brother and the heartbreak they went through. His father's going to come up. Mark my words. His father's going to come up. I do not know if he'll be on the season. I don't know if there'll be a FaceTime, a phone call. Mark my words. That is a storyline. And that's why we're getting that preview. When it comes to this Queen Victoria, I'm going to do something. Unless there's

something that's just so big that I can't help myself, I'm not talking about her. Okay. I'm not even, you come on calling yourself Queen and like all these catchphrases that you probably thought about and you planned before you came on the show. I'm not even going to give you the attention that you're trying to garner by coming on the show with all this. I'm not talking about it. Can you talk about it back? Unless she just does something that's so outrageous. I'm not talking about her.

I don't feel like it this season. I'm taking a season off. I'm cool with that. I'm fine with that. You know, less drama, more real life shit. That's why, 2021. Yeah, maybe it's the 2021 and me. Yeah, maybe it's going through 2020.

I don't, I can't deal with it. Right. So we had Corinne. Okay, don't come on here trying to be Corinne. I don't think anyone can ever be what Corinne was. Shout out to Corinne. Yeah, like. But you know what's interesting, when you bring up the point that we are trying to get

to know Matt James, it was before Ari's season, because obviously I was on his season, like a week or so before they did a get to know him type thing because he had been, I think, at that point, like five or six years removed. And I really wish they would have done that for the viewers to truly get to know Matt James, whether it's like just an hour or two special to just get. get to know more background. Maybe we'll see that. I don't think so.

It would be very nice, very helpful for everyone. Maybe it will. Or maybe it'll just be the storyline, you know? But I think Matt will struggle with not having ever been on this type of on a show before. And it's tough. It's tough trying to navigate all this and navigate love and understand what your heart and your head are going through all at the same time.

But outside from the previews, it looks like it's going to be a good season. A lot of tears, a lot of drama. a storyline you've never seen before. Apparently there's a sugar baby or somebody. Oh, yes. I mean, let's be honest. There have been sugar babies on this show before. It's just that they've never been a storyline. So that's

kind of interesting, but you know, we shall see. We shall see. And with that, I think it's time to get into what we are all here for today to cover everything that we saw and go down last night. So I think we just have to bring on the newly engaged happy couple themselves to congratulate them

face to face. And I just realized, I took your... That's okay. Just roll with it. No, no, you're right. Listen, there have been so many rumors that have been floating around when it comes to Tasia. Will she end up with someone who she ended up with? Is she engaged? Is it just boyfriend and girlfriend? Well, guess what? We all saw the episode last night. We know that she is happily engaged. The question, is she still happily engaged. We're about to talk to the couple right now to find out, welcome Tashin' Zach. I'm so excited to see you guys together in public, in normal life. Honestly, this is so weird.

Like, I think I used to like hide, like being here. No, no, no. We'll talk about it because, you know, you're talking to two OGs who've been here before. So like, we know what you're feeling right now. What that feeling is. It's beautiful. And can I just say I'm a little jealous. jealous because you're not going to, as far as I know, you're not going to have to sit on a stage in front of a live audience. You know what I mean? Like, you protect it a little bit and you get to

just enjoy each other and then sit in the comfort of your own home and do these interviews and talk to the rest of the world, but still feel like you're a little shielded from the world. But anyways, we'll get there. I didn't even really think about that. We'll get there because it doesn't stop social media. But you guys, congratulations. Let's just start there. Congratulations. Thank God for a happy ending. I mean, I am sick of the stuff not working.

I'm trying not to curse. We're going to raise a glass to the happy couple. Congratulations. Seriously. Does it really not work out? Oh. Cheers to you guys. We'll get into the fact that you know nothing, which I love.

Yeah, he doesn't know much. He knows nothing about this world, which is the best part about it all. It's so refreshing though. It's kind of nice when they, you know, it's like they enjoy the experience for what it is and then it's not calculated and you don't know everyone or everything that's happened. I find it very refreshing to watch.

We will get there. Yes. So first of all, how are you guys? We're good. Good. Well, it's nice to meet you guys first and foremost. You as well. We've been waiting a long time to get you on Zach.

So I'm glad that she, Tasha roped you in. Yeah. It's been good. We're good. I think. you know you guys have both been through it right there's just a little bit of a roller coaster and there's moments of like why is she texting me back and then you know it's like any relationship it's no it's by coastal living but also like we're hiding in secret and it's kind of like

we want to be as present as we normally are in a regular relationship but like we can't be it's just it's a lot to take on but it's fun it's going to be crazy the first time that you guys can be out in public together and you can actually say each other's names in front of of strangers. I remember the first time, well, when I was still with my ex, when I could say his name through the airport. And at first I was like, oh, wait, I can actually say this now. Then I was like, I'm engaged, like, screaming from the rooftop. So when you finally have that moment, like, what's the first thing you want to do once you're out there? Well, he has to like, we have to get brunch. I'm like, I'm such a brunch girl. I know it's kind of hard to like get, go to restaurants

right now. But we'll find something outside. You can do with each brunch. I have a picnic basket you can borrow. You can make it work. Yeah. I mean, honestly, my family's down here. We're in Orange County, so we're going to be able to be with them. My dad wants to do a whole barbecue thing. He's like, screw it. We'll go on the side

of the road just so people can see you guys. Orange County doesn't give a fuck. You know what I mean? Y'all aren't paying it. Y'all are, don't get me started on that stuff. Like, seriously, that's the place to be apparently if you want to go to brunch you know what i mean yeah shout out to all of our orange county listeners you know about that yeah we would be to our own job apparently not all of us but a lot of them

so obviously you guys it's been such a whirlwind for you because tasha you just starting your journey in general was not the norm and you know and it's never easy watching a full season back and zach i can probably feel for you to having to watch it back and have tasha relive all of these different relationships and so now that you guys are well I want to take you back how has it been like watching it back and how has it been since

filming ended and airing began like that time frame in between well okay so we saw each other what maybe like we had the couple days right after airing yeah so right after we got engaged

it was actually my birthday so we got to like be with each other so that was super fun please tell me you weren't Lakeinta, they did not keep you there. No, I was like, we're going to go home. We're going to go home. Yes.

Oh, good. Okay. Yeah, we went back. We were in L.A. It was really nice, actually. But I don't know. It's been kind of a whirlwind of like adjusting. We see each other every so often.

And it kind of takes a hot minute to like get back into like what we're doing. You agree? Yeah. I mean, for me, I just, this whole world is so foreign to me. me you know and so this first episode happens and we're like there with claire we're getting out a limo and i think that moment for me it was like okay we're live like this shit's real now and i don't know what the hell i just signed up for and so going back and kind of reliving that stuff has been a trip for sure and then once it got into our love story i mean that that was a blast and we had a

glass of that. And, you know, to your, to your question about, you know, what's it been? Like, I think we've got a lot of practice and having real conversation. It's just as things would come up on the show, she would take a minute and kind of say, hey, look, this is coming down the pipe. I want you to know. I still love you. Like, this is. And so, like, I didn't really understand that piece of it, but she walked me through it. So it was super helpful. That's really good. Like, kudos to you, Tasha for that. Because I think that, listen, this is. This is. this whole system is not really set up for success, right? Like, you meet in such a quick amount of time.

You have to navigate all these relationships. The person that you pick at the end of this has to be strong enough and confident enough to withstand you dating all these people all over again, even though you've passed it. It's very, it's really, really hard. And so one of the keys to success is being able to say, hey, this happened. I'm going to be honest about it. but it doesn't change how I feel about you.

Hey, I had to be completely in this relationship to know you were what I wanted at the end of the day. But those conversations are not easy by any meat. No, no, no. Even though, like, my heart is in the right place by telling him and, like, I'm not second-guessing anything at all. Like, I've never changed a thought.

Like, it's still really hard for him to digest that. You know what I mean? And then not only to just hear it come out of my mouth, but then also watch it. Like it's definitely. Absolutely. It's a lot on a new relationship. And add in social media too where everyone's following your DMs and your photos and commenting.

It's like it comes at you at all angles. So it does take a strong person and couple to really get through that and to navigate it on your own in your own way. But yeah, it's like it's not easy. I completely get that. It's not. And like Rachel, to your point, like including family and that. I had to talk to Zach's parents and just like that they asked or like I think it was wrong but I just had to be like I need you to know that you're going to see a lot of things and just because that's happening does not take away from like what's happening here I remember I landed back I landed back in Jersey I saw my mom she said I just got a message on Instagram from the bachelor detective I'm like hold off what? Who? And I got in the car and I drove down and I sat the family down I was like I don't even know what's the about to happen, but don't respond to nobody.

You know, like, it was just, yeah, it's, it, nothing can prepare you for all of this, but that's why it's so exciting when you see that you're able to withstand all of this. And yeah, and I'll be honest with you, you're honestly just starting, because once you announce yourselves, people, they think they know, they don't know, they don't, they people have their favorites, they, they, they think they know you and they don't know you. And, you know, you're really going to have to be strong, you know, in a united front. as you go out and introduce yourself as a couple. It sounds like you guys have really built a foundation,

which is fantastic. Zach, what I find refreshing and so interesting is you know nothing about this world. And yet you survived it and you're successful in it. So how in the world did you even get on this show? Okay. So the first part of that, I will tell you, as you know, I was married. And my first wife and I, I think, watched three or four episodes of this show, like, years ago. Allie, I think, was the lead, the lead, Allie.

Is this ring a bell? Do you guys shout out to Al. Babe. Yeah, so you used to be a podcast. I watched Algae Man. I watched All right. So that was my knowledge. So, yeah, my story, how I got there is pretty interesting.

So my mom and sister watched the show, right? And they also have been wanting me to find love for years now. And it's, it got into the point where I was the guys, I'm not going to talk to this, talk about this with you guys, because it's just, it's too much. And so my sister, it's kind of heavy to talk about, but she was pregnant with twins and she lost one of the pregnancies. So she was sitting at home when they started to recast, totally like super depressed, super anxious, still pregnant.

and the way she tells the story is that, you know, these ads come on like casting for the next season. And I guess when quarantine shut that season down, they decided they were going to recached it. Screw it. I'm going to go and I'm going to send Zach's application in. And she sent me this text message and I said, okay, good luck. Like, have fun with it. And then next thing you know, it was a Friday night. I walked in from a long-ass day of work.

I was fried. And L.A. was calling. I'm like, who the hell is calling? me. I pick up the phone. It's the producer from the show. And she said, is there any chance that someone might have submitted you to this show? And then I just really put one foot in front of another. And I think I got to call on July 1st and I was there, whatever, six days later. It was nuts. Oh, my gosh. So you knew nothing. You knew nothing about the show. I mean, I knew there was roses. I knew your shine. You didn't watch, you didn't watch any episodes before you went on.

Because I didn't watch, I didn't watch a show either before I went on. But then I was like, oh, let me do some research. And then I cried and I was like, oh, my God, I've already signed the contract. And I'm not going to get along with these people. This is not me. So I'm always fascinated by the people who come on and have never seen anything. I did. Well, as you know, we were quarantined when we got to Lakinta.

And I don't know, I had this thought to kind of go into the guide. And they actually had a couple episodes of the goat. like they were doing these goat like crazy seasons ever Did you see me? No Because it was airing when we were there I might have seen Becca

Were you did you have No I was not on it No But didn't you go talk for somebody What do you mean Weren't you on somebody's season? Me? Like no no no

Becca Oh yeah I did Well no no no To introduce Claire season Yeah they had some of the past Bacheloretts on So actually that would have been that week Yes

because they had me, Caitlin, and Deanna right as Claire's season was about to start filming. See? Yeah. Who did I watch? Hopefully I said something smart. I don't know.

What was the season with the guy that, you know, Chad was a little out there? Jojo. Jojo. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

So I watched that one of me. So, oh, sorry. Did you finish that? I mean, that's what I know. And I had a usual... You probably were terrified then. I love a chance of the person that stuck up to. A mutual friend of mine who I've gotten closer to New York is actually, was in J.P.'s

wedding. So I had met J.P. a few times. And so good guy, right? JP and Ashley are good people. Yeah. So for me, I was like, all right, this dude's cool. Like, he did it. Why not?

And I did sneak a phone call to him, don't tell anyone. And kind of just talked to him about his experience before. That's okay. That's okay. That's good. We all did it. I know I did. And no, that's good.

You were trying to figure it out. And JP, I feel like you are similar in the sense of like he wasn't really all about the show either. So I want to focus on YouTube, but I just think the story of how your sister applied you to be on the season, not knowing whose season it was going to turn into, let alone now that you are engaged, Tasia. like what what is your sister what is your family thinking about all of this oh my family's pumped i mean i got i got to say by the way let me just preface this he pauses a lot when he speaks so don't think it's like a negative thing i even he's thinking no i don't think he thinks a lot yeah so

i didn't think anything i call him out on this all the time anyway continue on No, I mean, look, my family's super excited. Obviously, a couple of them got the chance to meet Tasia during hometowns, which was really special. And my mom is over the moon. She's just, you know, she's one of my best friends, right? Like I say that, my mom, my dad are best friends. So, you know, for them, all they've wanted forever is for me to find love, you know?

So how, why, where, you know, like all that stuff doesn't matter to them. So they're super excited. And I think my sister selfishly is a little bummed because she was pregnant, right? And she had the kids so she couldn't come out for hometowns because she had this little child at home. And she hasn't really been able to be in the mix yet. But we'll get her. We'll get her involved. Yeah.

Oh, how special. I mean, that's that story in itself is incredible. And now, you know, she has one little bundle of joy that I'm sure some sort like something will trigger the memory when she looks at him or her. to, you know, think of like, oh, I got my brother on the show. And he found love. He found what we all wanted for him. I'm super grateful for, I mean, like, I would have never done it, obviously. And now little baby Liam and Uncle Zach, we're having this parallel process of being born and getting engaged.

My God, I had a nephew born right when I got engaged, literally the day before. Really? Yeah. Yeah, Hendricks. Like, we waited telling my family because we wanted my sister to. have that moment. Moment before we told that we were actually engaged. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Well, that's not cool. We're married now. That's exciting. Okay, so going back to the beginning, well, not even to the beginning of the season, because there was a lot that went down those first couple of weeks. But after going through all of that drama and the what-ifs and you don't know what's going to happen if once Claire left with Dale, is there still going to be a season? Are you going to go home?

Like when you saw, Zach, when you saw Tasha enter the room for the first time, what was going through your mind? Yes, please share the class. I mean, obviously, physically, I was attracted off the jump, right? But that only carries you so far. So for me, it was excitement. It was excitement about kind of a second, second opportunity, a second chance to find love. I told myself coming into this process that I was just going to keep an open mind and try to be as authentic as possible and not kind of hear the noise. So when Claire left, I just saw that as, you know, another opportunity to meet another human being and hopefully be able to build a connection. So she comes in the doors and, you know, I started sweating a little bit because she's very attractive.

But from there, you know, it really had to see if there was something there on an interpersonal level and there was so uh that first night there was definitely some some sweat and then not just from the from the heat out there's nervous holspring's heat so when was the moment for both of you i want you both to answer where you felt the spark where you were like this could really be something serious like this could be the one for me it's on our one-on-one right yeah i think it was when we were jumping on the trampoline and like that whole date was just hated it hated it i hated it i hated you hated it i loved i loved the photographer i felt like but i love thank you so uncomfortable i felt like it was just so uncomfortable and not just because i was watching it because i personally

would not have wanted like i don't know i just felt like they kept putting y'all in uncomfortable situations but zach you're very good at making tasha feel comfortable so it worked and maybe absolutely your relationship grow but i i hated it i will tell you i was i mean i think i've told you this i was not really looking forward i didn't think he was going to be into that date at first so like when i was going i'm like he's going to hate this like it sounds fun to me because i just like getting dressed up and doing all that kind of stuff but like i didn't expect him to think that he was going to like like it as much as he did and he made me enjoy it 10 times more, and I was like, okay, wait, if I'm, like, getting all dressed up and I'm making

these, like, bizarre suits, and we were just having the time of our lives, like, we could literally do anything. Because he likes you. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the important thing. You know what I mean? He's willing to sacrifice, like, maybe his sand day.

Yeah, no, I mean, for me, 100% of one-on-one, you know, as someone who walked into this process and didn't know a lot about how these things go, there's so much hype around the one-on-one, the one-on-one, the one-on-one. So in my head, I knew that it was a big deal. And I will say that up until that, that was the first day that I really felt like a human around her. Because every other time we talked before that, I was super nervous. You know, it's these little spurts.

So it was the first time to really get some quality time with her. And, you know, for me, like I have the divorce. I have the, you know, the drug addiction and some other stuff going on that I needed to come forward with. And I knew that. but I didn't want to kind of overshoot the mark early on. So that was the time when I really felt like we got to know each other a little bit more. And I don't know, something about the Ferris wheel at night was cool.

You look good. When you lost your rose? Yeah. That was a deal. We were freaking out. But then we found it. Did they show that on TV? I don't know.

Did you keep all of your roses? Do you still have them all? Yeah, I do. Aw. That's sweet. It's good to hang on to them. Don't put them in books, though, because they'll run mold. They'll mold.

Yeah. Another date I wasn't a... Sounds so negative. Another date I wasn't a fan of was the daytime. I love the nighttime part of the hometown and Zach meeting your family, which they seem lovely. And just, like, so relaxed and really, like, I just, I don't, there was something about your family. They were fan favorites. There's always one family that's, or a couple of families that were.

fan favorites and your family was definitely hit the mark on that without even trying it was very effort effortless with them but i i didn't like the daytime part and it's not your fault you're stuck at the lakinta like there's only so much you can do you know shout out to production for trying their best absolutely i said it i said it you know and whatever i say i'm going to say to your face i didn't feel sorry for tasha about i didn't feel sorry about you having to do your season at the La Quinta until I saw the hometown dates. And then I felt so bad for you because I thought it was creative and it was sweet, but I felt bad for you because there is something about like, like Zach,

for somebody who doesn't, you know, you don't watch a show. When it comes to hometowns, the contestant takes control and the lead follows and they get, and it's like, you're the lead at this point. And you get to show like where you grew up and where you went to high school and your favorite thing to do in your hometown and you go down memory lane it's really special and then you had the taxi which i loved by the way i'm just going to throw that out there i love the cheesiness of it laid on it's what was up with the taxi you get you're good that's all him so you have to tell him when you picked it up and you took and you took six six feet walk six feet i didn't know what

it was cute in theory but anyways i want to give you a chance this is what i want to do this is what i want to do I'm going somewhere with this. Stay with me. I'm not going to just rag on the date because there was something sweet about it. Let's just say that you were able to go to New York City. And you were able to give her the Zach Clark experience. Hypothetically speaking, what would you have done? What would a date have looked like?

Can you paint that picture for us? Damn. I thought I was going to go off easy here. To be honestly, I think I would do the cheesy tourist stuff, you know, the Empire State, the World Trade Center. That's not bad. I like that. Because what happens is when you live in New York City like I do, you don't end up doing

that shit. Right. You know, like you just see it and it's like, oh, cool. Maybe take a horse and horse carriage in the park. I mean, there's some things to do. Yes, there are. And the food, the food is next level, right? So we, I mean, she can eat.

I don't know if, I mean, is that. I mean, so. We thought we've had a hot dog off the street in New York. Have you ever had a hot dog off the street in New York? No. You haven't done New York unless you get the hot dog off the street stand. Well, I haven't really been to New York with them. Or like, I went a couple times.

You know, I visited Sydney for my season. She lived there. And so I did a couple of things. Like I went to go see like the next play at Madison Square Garden. We did a lot of fun little things. But I never had a hot dog off the street. So, Zach, this could be your next date. Your first New York date, Hot Dog Street Stand.

I missed the first day of my internship because I had a hot dog off the street in New York. Don't do it Where in New York are you? I'm on the Upper West side So I live on Yeah, I'm like on the park Okay I used to stay down there

And I was on 18th and first A little north Like 20 blocks north of Columbus Circle Yeah you got it Okay cool, cool, cool Yeah You have to come visit Anytime I love New York

Let's just jump ahead Since you just said We have to come visit Are we moving to New York Are we moving to the east? What's happening? What's the future plan? Now we're up in the big league.

Taking our turn at that. What is it moving on up to the east side. I'm going to flip it on you guys. You think she can handle New York? I mean, I think the jury's still out. Yes. You don't think so. She'll be fine.

No, I'm kidding. You'll be fine. I think I could do it. Central Park, Upper East Side, you'll, yeah, it'll be perfect. Literally. I'm, yeah, so I'm going to be bi-coastal. I'm going to keep my place here. But, yeah.

we're moving in together. Oh my gosh. Where are we moving in together, New York? So Christmas, New Year's, that whole deal, we're going to be east. And we're going to give her a little east, an East Coast holiday season. No return flight yet. But we, and we're just going to play by year. I mean, I'm excited to date her and take her out and do some things that you would typically do if this was a normal relationship.

and that's really important to me I said I just want to like just date me and like that's what I don't know we have obviously we're already engaged we kind of like you know sped up the process a little bit but that's what you do you go back to the basics that was the time things yeah I was talking to

a mutual friend of ours Rachel so she told me a little bit about you Rachel and your husband that you guys did some strategy around living here and kind of tried it out here and it all worked out so that's we stepped away from the spotlight because it is tough when so many people,

people were not happy. They were very negative about the fact that we chose each other and our finale. So for us, it was important to go back to the basics, go home, be around family, and really get to know each other

without anybody else giving their opinion. And that saved us. Like, we didn't do anything grand. Like, we did a couple of fun things, but we stayed out the spotlight. And I think that that's key. I really do. I love that.

I feel like I love that my family is just being so supportive and just be like, please go and move and like do what you need to do because you need to, they want me just to, I don't know, like, it would be a normal relationship. Like if I did meet him and we were to be like bi-coastal, I probably would, I wanted him got to New York last November, but it didn't work out. But look at it down. It's kind of like better than that. I love that.

It happened. Oh my gosh. That's so great. Yeah. It was supposed to like. supposed to go in November. She spilled those beans and like the first conversation we had.

I said, okay, we're live. New York, we're live. Because for your New York, huh? For your career, you have, basically you have to be based in New York, correct? Yeah, my business is on the East Coast, yeah. What are you doing? So I own an addiction recovery company.

So we have two programs in the city, one for men and one for women. And then we have another one in Westchester County, about 50 minutes north of where I live. So we have 40 beds in total. And then I do a bunch of interventions and consultation work and whatever we can do, try and help some people. When I came down and I talked to Tasia, this is literally what she said to me. I'm like, okay. So like, who's, you know, who's last?

Who's here? And she's like, oh, gosh, Zach, we've already said we love each other at Zach. And I was like, well, damn. I mean, I mean, how many people are still here already? So, I mean, it's so then for me, I was asking around and it was like, oh, you know, like, tell me about this Zach guy, you know, because I didn't meet you guys. I know, I knew nothing. I came in. I talked to Tasia and that was it. And I got so many compliments about you, Zach. It was, he is a great man. He's one of the greatest men we've ever seen come through this show. I mean, like, I was so nosy about it. So, and so I'm glad to see. like this all work out and it's to come to fruition because I'll tell you like even in watching the show on the podcast I was like I don't see the connection between them I was like I don't and I don't know if it's because they weren't showing it what but on here I was like I Zach checks all

the boxes he's he seems to be amazing but I don't see the chemistry and then we got to fantasy sweet week and there was a twinkle in Tasha's eye looking at the same same way she keeps looking at you now that I was like, oh my God, there it. Has it been here the whole time? And I just had this other weeks. It, I mean, and you're looking at each other that same way now. And I really don't have a question. I feel like I just wanted to say that. As I'm trying to move this along. I just wanted to say that because I knew how she felt about you. I didn't know if she got engaged. I did know how it ended, but I knew how she felt. And then, but then I didn't see it on screen until that moment and I was like there it is oh my gosh and I'm because it's different

like I think what we have is different because even when I'm watching back like I'm a little more reserved when I'm with you yeah I'm a little more shy and so and usually like I'm a little bit louder and a little bit more bubbly and with him it was more of like I knew I was in trouble because I knew he had something that I've been looking for that I had never found before yeah but like I was too scared to like even acknowledge that like you might be really good for me kind of thing you know what I mean balance me out in the ways I've been looking used to being treated the wrong way it's so easy to make excuses when it's good because you're not used to it so you think something must be wrong with it and almost as if you don't deserve it and then it's kind of like but what if this is

how it's supposed to always be and that's how I feel that's what I gather with you and Zach you know like this is what you deserve you just used to dealing with pieces of shit you know what i mean and so it's like when it when it's almost like you don't recognize it when it because you don't you've never had it before so that's that's kind of how to see it so i want to piggyback off of that because so when we see you sit down with your dad when he comes back after he's met both men and he shows up at your room and has this really heart to heart with you you know and really makes you think through like what is the best decision for you obviously we then see you go and end things with Ben but after that conversation what was it that

made you all of a sudden so convinced in your decision to to send Ben home and know that Zach is the one well it was just I had already like had a feeling that I knew it again it goes back to like me knowing that Zach really does possess a lot of the qualities that I was looking for and I think it's not that I think Ben is an amazing man but I just think that he checked off boxes Zachary checked off boxes that I was looking for and then some things like I didn't even know that I wanted and when I was with him I was like I want that so it was just I think it was that realization that just like kind of clicked with me like it's like when you're with your I don't know when you're with your parents you can't hide like they know who you are and I think like when

I was with them it was just like Like, I just, it clicked in my head. I was just like, I already know what I want. So what am I doing? You know? Mm-hmm. So I was just honest with myself. I was really surprised when you find that right one that checks all the boxes that you didn't

even know we're missing. That's when you know. I know. But the thing is, it's scary when that happens. And sometimes you try, like, and I said this a million one times. I don't know if, I don't think you ever saw in interviews, but it's just like, he like has everything but like I don't know like am I ready for that do I really like I know that I want that but it's like holy crap like I don't think people realize also like I got the phone call

and I left like I never really had like the time to like okay this is what I'm going to look for like write all the boxes down and then like know where I've seen I just kind of went with it and I was authentically myself and I put myself out there and I knew what I had wanted deep down in my heart, but like seeing it all in front of me just like kind of like took me by surprise. And it was just like, oh my God. It's actually here. And Zach, with you not knowing anything about this show and to be on a season like we've never seen before. Like, I don't know if you know this, but there aren't normally two bacheloretts in a season. Newsflash. I picked that off as you right. It doesn't happen this way. Yeah, I hear Domar was the encyclopedia when it comes to

All Things Bachelor for the season. Yeah, tomorrow, we'll break it down late night over some cereal. Yeah, there's always one. You're always eating cereal. Yeah, there's always that one who knows all the details. But I'm interested for you because you just didn't know so much and this was hard to navigate because we had never seen anything like this before. And there was so much drama.

And there always is. How was it for you being able to navigate all of that and then stay focused on what you had with Tasia? So I think in many ways this season was almost built for me. You know, I just the way everything happened, I don't know if I would have been a fan of the travel. I feel like that would have taken away from the real love story. I mean, for me, the way I was able to think about the entire experience was for all the reasons that they say this thing's not going to work, right? It's so quick.

It's, you know, how can anyone fall in love? six weeks or whatever it is for me right i had this big busy life being given the opportunity to put my phone down right and put the computer away and really just be present uh was such a gift and once i did that and kind of got comfortable without any noise around me i was just in the mindset that i was going to be open-minded so claire comes in and i mean people ask me all the time like what do you think of claire i don't really know claire you know i didn't i didn't get to know her and that's not a bad thing or a good thing. I just, I didn't, I don't know her, you know, um, it happened so quickly. And then the funny thing for me is that that rose, like, I think I was going home the next,

the next rose ceremony if there was one, because I kind of, I don't know. You went in on Del. I think I went in on Claire a little bit. Oh my gosh. Oh, I'm mad we missed. I want to see that no book. And I, and we love Claire here, but no, of course. The truth is, yeah, you don't, you didn't know her. You didn't know her. You didn't know. She had her eye on the prize. And thank goodness, you know, because then you never would have met Tasha. Good for her. Have you seen Dale?

He's very handsome. I mean. I have. I've met Dale. I've been around Dale and Claire. They're very, very happy. Good. So after that, I mean, look, it was a little bit of a reboot and I'm a guy that loves

the second chance. So Tisha walks in and I don't know. I was talking about it. Was it with you or someone? You were one of the British. That's all I can really talk to. but just really trying to the best of my ability not get involved in the other relationships that were going on. I knew there were some other really good guys there, so I can't blame Tasha

for exploring all those relationships, truly. And that made it difficult. But I hit a point probably when it was down to four of us where I was like, these guys aren't my friends. They're all really good dudes, but I'm going to focus on this love story and see if it's the real deal. And it turned out to be. One thing that was different with him was like, he never asked any questions about any of the guys, like ever. You remind me of my husband. But I'm laughing because I know this is how you felt because when you were standing there with Ben, you go, honestly, I hope Ivan goes home. It's like, you know what? That's a very real comment. You know, nobody really cares. You will, I mean, you don't care about the other people.

You're there for Tasia. It's nothing personal, Ivan, but I'm here for Tasia. And if you go home, that means I'm closer to Tasia. I thought I cackled when I saw it. Which, and we crossed a line. It crossed the line. Like, there was this point, there were 16 of us, and they were scrambling. Like, anyone who says this was like a plan thing, like, I was there.

I lived it. It was chaos for like three or four days out there. And the 16 of the guys that were left were kind of. running around they let us not be miced up a little bit like we were we were having a good all time um and then it hits the point when you get down to that 10 8 6 like this is this is real like it shifts from you know broing out i was gonna say yeah it always does yeah it hits you harder which we saw i will say i think we saw the change in you because it seemed for the most part you always got along with the guys you are you were always respectful never involved really in

the drama but i think it was like the moment ben it came back and tried to touch you and you were like, don't touch me. I was like, oh, he's, you know, now things are getting down to the wire. They're getting serious and he's in it for the girl. And I love how earlier you mentioned that like usually the reasons why people go on the show for the travel, for the extravagant dates, all those things. Since they were removed, it was made for you because I think that's something that Rachel and I have been saying all season. We love that it's kind of gone down to the basics. Like you remove all of that extra stuff and it's so much more focused on the relationships, which is why the relationship of the hour, I have to get into the proposal

because your words to each other were some of the most beautiful, heartfelt. And I think it was probably one of the longest proposals we've ever seen from a season. Like, I mean, and granted, it hasn't happened recently because we've been lacking that. But yours, I think they just gave you so much time because you had these genuine heartfelt words of affirmation to each other. So I have a two-part question. First of all, Tasia, when you are giving your speech, which I know that we've all been there when we're getting engaged, and we kind of have to still keep the men on their toes a little bit. We can't, like, give it all away up front when they show up. So Zach is, you know, ready to propose to you and you are, you know, speaking back to him and you pause and you give the butt in the middle of your speech.

Zach, what was going through your head at that moment? And then at the end, it feels like you guys were able to switch it and really get into how much love and commitment and loyalty you have for each other. So how was it then to now rewatch that moment back? I didn't actually, I mean, I don't believe her, man. Like, I was thinking until she said no, I was all in. So I was so hopeful.

I mean, there was a moment of kind of, you know, gut, punch, but it was short-lived and she came back around. I don't know. It was just an intense moment that it's hard to really put into words what was actually going on. I kind of blacked out, which is why it was actually that long. It was, I did say, but, and then I was thinking about the next words I was going to say. And then I kind of just blocked out, like, oh, my gosh, this is actually going to happen, like, right now once I, like, say like I'm in love with you like really really in love with you

so I took a minute to my thoughts my last single moment. It's kind of fun though to still leave them guessing you know you can't give all of your cards away right away I mean I remember I feel the same like it's there's a lot of emotion in that moment like you know what's to come

and you know probably that you're both in this and committed and I'm going to say yes but there's still you know some some little thing in the back of mind, we're like, you know, is this going to be what I, you know, spent the past two months working for and like saying that I've wanted. And so there's a lot of emotion. So now being

able to kind of relive that moment and watch it back together, how does it feel? We were just watching it. Well, wait. Well, yeah, we were just re-watching it before we came on here with you guys. And well, he's, it's going to be bad if I call you a much. He's called whatever. He's such a mush. He cries. watching our love story all the time and he was completely in tears and I just like just it was really good we loved it I will say I'm not really a prior but Zach there was I think the moment when you were like you know I'm going to be loyal to you and you kept you use the word loyal and loyalty several times I I shed a few tears on my couch I'm not going to lie you got me we had long

conversations about that on and off screen i mean you know to the best of our ability off screen but you know about loyalty about commitment about some of our past relationships and where they went wrong and it was important for me in that moment to just let her know that you know good times bad times whatever it is each morning i'm gonna wake up and choose her and we're gonna do this together and i'm a big believer in that kind of like ride or die energy and if we have that for each other everything's gonna work out and i i think why this holds so much weight too is that I don't know if we've ever had, and I'm not well versed in the history of Bastro Nation, but I don't know if we've ever had a couple where both of them have been married before.

And so you bring more to the table because you've been here before. You know what it's like. You've gone through the heartbreak. You've ended a marriage. And now you are both taking that chance and at risk to open yourselves back up and you're trusting one another with each other's hearts again. And that's what makes it so even more rich, not taking away from anyone else's proposal. My goodness, we've both had them on the show.

It's just that it adds another element that I don't know if we've ever seen before. Becca, have we seen that before? I don't believe so. And again, like I haven't watched too many seasons before mine, but I don't think so. I don't think we'll get called out real quick by Bachelor Nation if we're wrong, so we'll find out very soon. There's nothing new with that. It's just, I, I just really think it's so beautiful to watch it. And I think that there's so many people who are watching you guys and who are like, you know, I've been married before and I've been scared to open myself up and I'm going to do it again or, you know, it just, it adds this other element that, like I just said, we haven't seen on the show before.

And I know you guys have touched on it. We'll wrap up in a few minutes. I know you guys have touched on it already that you're going to be bi-coastal, but it really sounds like East Coast. I mean, that's what it sounds like. What does the future hold for the two of you? You're out now. You're like, what take us, take us through 2021. My gosh, way to start off the year.

You know, like talk about a year. I know. You know what I mean? You ended it well. You get to start out this journey together. The world's opening up. But then so are the two of you as this new couple. Ah, it's poetic.

I love it. You know, I don't know something that's crazy. Well, we'll talk about 2021, but what's crazy is, last New Year's like before I told my girlfriends I'm like I feel like I'm going to like this is my last single New Year's like we have to go out we have to do something

fun and all four of us were single we went to Miami for New Year's and now Sydney has a boyfriend Nicole has a boyfriend I just got engaged and my other girlfriend huh? Where did you go with you too? Where did y'all go because you know I was in my I lived in Miami last

New Year really I was out in the ballot yeah I was out in the Yeah, you know, I just moved to L.A. I've been in my... Brian's still in Miami. We're bi-coastal. I understand this whole thing. I understand... Oh, my gosh.

Okay, where... You're doing it right now. Yeah, we're by coastal right now. But it's hard, but it works. Like, you'll make it work. Like, it works. It's about the people. It's like, forget all the outside of pain.

I need Brian's phone number. I will 100% will give it to you. Because, like, how old are you again? 36. Okay. Brian was 37 and he came on the show. There's a lot of similarities here. Well, we'll make all of this.

this happened. Um, but no, where'd y'all, where'd y'all out of Miami? We were at the one, we were at the one. We, I was at the one. No, you warned the show. Yes, it was. Okay. So at the one hotel. We, I was there and we were at the Jonas Brothers. Like, we had the VIP, like, tickets at the Jonas Brothers concert or whatever. That wasn't at the one though. No, and then we went there after. Yes, we started there for when the ball dropped and then we were there at the one. We were there. We were there. We left. we started out, actually we started out of the one. Okay, anyways, the question was, what does the future hold for the two of you?

Do you want to take it? Do you take it? For me, initially, it's all about we got to do the family and friend thing, right? She's got an amazing family who had the opportunity to meet. She's got all these friends that she keeps talking about that I'm just so excited to get to know. So that's going to be huge and vice versa for me.

And then I think it comes back to just what we talked about early on, dating and getting to know each other. And, you know, you start to spend extended periods of time with each other. You're learning to live with another human being. And like, is the, is the toothpaste on the mirror going to cause some resentment that you're going to get in a fight about? You're just going to wipe it off and say, I love you. Do you squeeze the toothpaste from the bottom up? Like how, you know, these are things that a couple needs to talk about. A toilet paper.

There's a lot of things they still have to discover with him. You know what I mean? And it's fun, though. It's so much fun to figure all of it out. Yeah. I think the best part about all of that is that we know that, like, our heart's in the right place. We know that, like, all the big picture thing, the conversations that a lot of people have, like, down the road. We've already taken care of a lot of that.

Our communication is phenomenal. So that's it. It's more so just like, I don't know. Gosh, I like you guys together. And I do too. Don't freaking disappoint us. I'm like, I'm not kidding. I like it.

I like it a lot. And I'm going to be really upset. And I'm going to have words. I'm going to tell you guys about it. Don't disappoint. I'm seriously. I'm not worried about it. I'm not either.

Okay. We have a couple more questions and then we'll let you go live your lives because there's a lot of things that you guys need to know do as a couple. We don't want to keep you for too long. But first of all, before I even get into the last couple of questions, Tasha, you You looked stunning at the finale. The dress, like the silver, everything was gorgeous. So I just have to tell you that you were glowing. There was a hot moment where I thought you were like, oh, I don't know if I'm ready for

this where I was like, no, no, don't back out now. But like beautiful, so beautiful. I hate to be this person to ask you this because you will get it at least 24 times every single day for the next year or two. but I want to be the first to be the annoying one to ask this do you guys I don't even want to

because I know how it feels like but do you have any wedding plans any wedding plans we've talked about all this we did we talked about not like specific but like

you can say it no let's date for like at least a year be mature adults and like learn to love each other outside of this whole thing and work towards a wedding in 2022.

We did this guy. Literally. We did two years. Yeah, like you, yeah, there's so much to do and to figure out. We're not in any rush towards that. You know what I mean? I mean, I feel like, again, we have to date each other. Enjoy, enjoy.

I think there might be a difference. I think she would go to an island or something and kind of keep it chill. Like I'm all for like the 600 person. Really? Oh, you're one of those guys. guys. I just love people. I want to do like a Wednesday to Sunday. Come on. Hang out. He wants the whole shebang and I'm like, just find this. A little, little more like out of the hill. That's me, Tasha. You know what I mean? And he's like, no, like, where all your friends, like, contact your kindergarten friends. Like, let's freaking go.

Okay. With that statement, if Rachel and I don't get an invite, we're going to have real words on this podcast about you. Come to me. Come to me, guys. You said six hundred people on. Talk to me. Well, and you already have a wedding photographer, so you don't have to worry about that. Frankl just come out. He loves Franco. I love Franco. I love Franco. I wanted more of Franco.

He's in New York, too. So I'm sure it won't be our last time. Great. Yeah, that's when I think she saw a different side of me when I ran out. I was like, Franco. And he's like, where do you live, Chelsea? I'm like New York. They totally bonded.

I was going to be like, oh my gosh, because Franco's shorts were like something different. And like, I loved it. And I was like, let's just have found. with it. And he walked up. He hugged me. Franko hugged me. And Zach's like, I don't get a hug. And then Frank was like, of course you do. And then they just hit it off. I love Franco.

Oh my gosh. What was another question? So, well, I can let you guys go, Rachel before. Well, Rachel knows what I'm going to ask. But did you have any last burning questions before we let them go? No. I don't have any questions. I mean, I think it's, you guys have, you said

it before. You've been communicating. So communication is key. So yeah, I don't have anything else. Yeah. And this one will be probably the nicest interview you have. I was just going to say, you don't have any questions. I don't feel like going there. I'm going to be honest.

I'm going to be honest. I mean, like, today's, today's been a day. So I just, we both know what it's like to be in your position. You're going to have so many people that are going to ask you about the moments before you got to the proposal, about the heartbreak before you got to the proposal. So honestly Becca and I don't need to do that. You're going to have so many other people that are going to do that to you. It's uncomfortable.

The important thing is that you guys are on the same page. We just want to bask in your love. Honestly. I love that. I don't want to go there. I don't want to go there. We don't need the clickbait. It's shameless plug. We don't need the headlines. Do you know what I mean?

Like you guys are happy and in love. That's it. That's it. And it's true. Yeah. And in moments in these next couple days and weeks when you're getting grilled by press and you're being asked all these random crazy questions that you probably don't want to answer at this point, just go back, revert to like the moment when you knew like you were each other's person, like when you fell in love and like why you made that decision and just lean on each other. It's like you will be your best sources of comfort if you do have that open and honest communication. So I can't wait to see where life takes you to. I can't wait to. I can't wait to. come visit hopefully in New York when once things open back up but we have to end this because it's not only the end of an episode

it is the end of the season 16th season of the bachelorette which is amazing we made it you guys did the damn thing if I do say so myself we did it so to end this I need to ask you both what was your rose and your thorn

of the entire season I had a blast you know me too actually. Maybe the heat was the thorn? I'm kidding. No, we were both there. It was. Remember, I was hung over when I came to you. Were you with Carrie Fettman the night before, Rich?

It wasn't him. It wasn't his fault. Yes. It's the heat. It's the heat. It was, yeah. Okay, let me think. In all seriousness, I think it's never fun to, like, to break up with people, but I knew I had to do it. You know what I mean? I mean, I think that's the part. I genuinely care about those men and I feel like you're all amazing.

So I think like that kind of sucked. But the, I mean, my rose is like finding him. But like not even just finding him, but like finding like a genuine real love that I don't think I've ever experienced. I feel like it's like things that people talk about. So like in fairy tales. So it's like I'm not kidding when I say like it's something different. So my. I love you.

Thank you. That's what I wanted to see. My rose, obviously, is meeting my fiancé, Tasia. Oh, my God, your fiance, make you sit out. The secondary rose, which doesn't have anything to do with you, I'm sorry, is I really had a powerful experience watching the people who work on the show pull this thing off. and I think the unwritten story about our season is and probably the season they just filmed is like these human beings put their entire lives on hold no family, no friends, no nothing to like come out and create this environment for us to find love. So I'll forever be grateful for that. I mean, I made so many good friends with that ABC, whatever, the production company, you know, like just really good humans and watching that like gave me. I don't know some feeling of like

we're going to be okay in this world as a whole and the Thorne I don't know I don't like wearing speedos and doing weird shit on TV like that wasn't cool for me but I did it

because this is you did it for love who were you close with Zach like who were your close friends in the house I loved Kenny Kenny was just Kenny

Kenny and I had the same taste in music, so he was. Boy band. Tyler, who went home a little bit earlier, Tyler Smith was a good hang. And then, I mean, literally Blake, Brendan, Ben, I mean, these were all good guys. Ivan and Jordan C. We had some really helpful conversations for me, and we bonded over these kind of like late-night sessions, talking about some of the stuff going on in the world. So overall, it was a really powerful experience,

just getting to connect with all these guys. I'm glad you had those conversations. I'm glad I wish we could have seen them. You know what I mean? That would have been awesome. But what's important is you had the conversations and not everything is for television. It's for you to get something out of it.

So good for you. You guys, it has been an absolute pleasure. Like I said, I can't wait to see what the future holds for you both, whether it's going to be New York, five babies one day, who knows. But I'm so thrilled that you guys took time out of what I know is probably, you know, a lot right now, a lot to take in and deal with everything. And honestly, I'm sure you guys just probably want to get everyone the hell away and close those doors and spend some real quality time together.

So with that, we can let you go. But it has been such a blast to have you both on. So thank you. But before we leave, don't worry, all the hardening questions. that you guys want to ask. I'm sure Joan and Tasha will. So Zach is actually going to be a guest on the Clickbait podcast on the 31st. So make sure you tune in because we're going to lay it all out, did you think?

Bring it on. Yeah. Oh, that's the spirit. Oh, Becca. Mm-hmm. I'm into it. I'm into it. I started to see it at the end.

They got us. I feel like they tried to not make us believe this was a thing. I didn't see the chemistry. I felt like Zach was a good man. Obviously, Tasha's a great woman. It wasn't until the end that I saw it, but talking to them, oh, I'm so happy for them. They're so giddy. I just, like, they're so into each other.

They're, like, they're great. They're great. You know what I love about seeing them now, like, together and being able to pick their brains about everything is, like you said, they're giddy. They have this nice playfulness and this banter, but, like, they also are still, I think very grounded and they balance each other out so well which is like like a real relationship what you need and so it's fun to see it's not like i think they understand it's not like all sunshine and butterflies and it's going to be like this perfect thing they know that they're going

to have to work for this relationship and like figure out where we're going to live like what's what does the future look like for us but there it was it was so charming to see them just finally interact face to face and be able to announce it i remember that feeling how like just incredibly elated I was and so I'm glad that they can that we were the first to have them that they can share it with us. Yeah, that timing is definitely everything for that relationship. It, a lot of, in a lot of ways, it reminds me of me and Brian. And so just to hear them talk about certain things, they're very, they're different, but it works. And you can tell. And what I love in watching that interview is Zach allows Tasha to be herself. And she allows him to do his thing,

recognizing the differences, but knowing that together, they're like this powerful force. So, stay tuned, guys, big things coming from that couple. And by that, I mean a wedding, five babies, and who knows what else is to come. That couple is taken over New York City. I can't wait to see the first day. Like, you know what? I might just be one of the paparazzi there just to watch it go down and maybe get a bagel and get like a cute little cardboard taxi cab walking down the road.

I never want to see it again. I wonder where that is. Does the art department still have that cab? It's trash. It's trash. And if that shit shows up in Nimicolon. I hope so. I hope so. Rachel, now I know what I'm getting you for a white elephant gift. Okay. You know what? And with that, close the show out. All right. Yes. Ending on that note.

Any with trash. You guys, I cannot believe that we are here the end of yet another love journey. Two in one season. Who would have thought? You know, when Chris Harrison always says the most dramatic season, truly this season 16 of The Bachelorette took the cake by far and you know coming from both of us I we I think we both wish tasha and Zach nothing but the absolute best we can't wait to see where they go in life for the two of them and in terms of happy hour we are going to be around next week we're going dark for the holidays and although we won't be releasing another episode we do wish you and all of your loved ones a very happy and safe and healthy holiday season no matter where how what you're celebrating so we're sending each and every one of you love this year and we know that it's been a tough one so hang in there and 2021's right around the corner can't wait that's right that's right bebecca and listen you guys we're taking some time off some much needed time off but don't worry we'll be back and you know what else will be back bachelor franchise they never stop giving you guys what you want a new season is just around the corner the bachelor season 25

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