Bachelor Happy Hour - EXCLUSIVE: Wells Adams, Wedding Officiant! Joe & Serena’s Wedding Celebration — Part 2

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena chat with their incredible wedding officiant, Wells Adams! As we keep the wedding celebrations going all week long, Joe, Serena, and Wells discuss th...eir favorite moments from the weekend in Charleston, the jokes Wells didn’t get to share while standing at the altar, and why Wells helping the couple tie the knot was truly a full-circle moment.  Then, Wells shares a hilarious after-party story involving himself, wife Sarah Hyland, and Joe’s cousin “Spaghetti.” He also reveals why if his wife ever leaves him, it will be for Joe’s dad. Listen now!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:41 Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are so blessed and lucky to be here with our good friend, our Reverend Mr. Wells Adams. Also, before Wells, you even say hello. So he is the bartender of Bachelor of Paradise. So at the end of the episode, we'll tease a little bit of what is to come from that.
Starting point is 00:02:04 But before we really have to talk about like one of the biggest moments of all time, our wedding. So let's, no, I'm just joking. That was horrible. I hate myself. Oh my God. That really took a turn so fast. Wells, what's up, Wells? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I just started really rambling out there. I don't know what I was doing. Hi, Wells. I get you so flustered, Joe. you do you do um how are you guys it's it's been it's been like 48 hours since i've seen your beautiful faces it's been so long we miss you truly struggling guys too um i want to start by saying that uh i mean i said it on my on my instagram but it's one of the biggest honors of my life to get to marry you too um it was such an amazingly beautiful ceremony and wedding the whole weekend was fantastic the
Starting point is 00:02:53 venue was great. Your wedding planners were ridiculously awesome and fun to work with. Your photographer, videographer, so great. But really, aside from the fact that, like, Joe is the funniest guy on that altar, your guys' parents are so stinking amazing and cute. And I, like, Serena, your mom is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my entire life, just right off the bat. Your dad, Bill, is the best. Him and I took so many pictures at the photo booth. Oh, I saw. I saw them. I saw one where you lifted him up or he lifted you up. I don't know what was happening. I lifted him up and then his suit jacket started to slip and I almost dropped your sweet, fragile little father. And then for everyone out there wondering what Joe's parents
Starting point is 00:03:46 are like, let me just tell you it's exactly what you think they are. That was funny. You did say that That was the first thing you said to me, too. They are. Like, your dad is, okay, first of all, if Sarah ever leaves me, she's going to leave me for Big Joe. He is,
Starting point is 00:04:02 like, she loves your dad. They were hanging out. They could not stop hanging out the entire weekend. Your mom is the sweetest. Anyways, I just had the most amazing time.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Thank you so much for letting me be a part of it. I feel truly honored and blessed to, to just have been there, let alone to be the officiant. Yeah, you were, honestly, we talked about it,
Starting point is 00:04:22 like multiple times just how wonderful you were and how serious you took it um which honestly was a good thing because as you know from the conversations and calls we had joe and i weren't taking it probably as seriously as we should have or giving it as much thought as needed to be given into the entire ceremony and like what should be said and done so it was so wonderful that you really took the job seriously and we could tell how much thought and effort and time you put into it and it really showed because it just made the ceremony so much more wonderful than we could have ever imagined. Yeah, for real. I do need to apologize. I did screw up one thing and I felt terrible about it. I forgot to tell everyone to sit down. Oh my God,
Starting point is 00:05:08 I forgot about that. That was funny though. That, in my opinion, when that happened, that kicked off like the lightness and like there was going to be a little humor to it off. Yes, we didn't want the ceremony I need to feel overly, like, stuffy or formal. And I feel like that was a good, like, funny mistake that happened. But also, like, I'm sorry, like, I didn't know you had to tell people to sit down, did you? Like, were you prepared that they weren't going to sit down unless you told them? I didn't even think about it. But then when it happened, I was like, oh, yeah, I think you're supposed to say, like,
Starting point is 00:05:41 you all may be seated now, you know? Yeah. So for people that don't know, like, I walked down the aisle, everyone stands up because, like, the bride's entering. I get to the end out. I'm looking at Joe and Wells, so I don't even see it. And then I think we kind of started. And then all of a sudden, you were like, guys, you get sit down, by the way. And I look over and everyone's still standing. Well, yeah, no, everyone started to like sit down.
Starting point is 00:06:00 They're like, okay, he's not going to tell us. We're going to start doing it. And then I'll say, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sit down, sit down. So sorry. Those are the best moments, in my opinion, though. And you do really well at making fun of yourself. I think, like, that's something we both do. We kind of like make fun of ourselves.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And you're just like really funny. So right when you did that. And then everyone laughed. I was like, that, that, like, actually made me feel more calm. Yeah, yeah. Because at the end of the day, like, something's, it's never going to be perfect, nor did we want it to be perfect. So it's like the first little, like, thing happened.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And then it's like, okay, like, it's fine. Everything's going to be fine. You know what I mean? It, like, relaxes you a little bit. And then, you know, the second imperfect thing happened when Joe kissed me in the middle of the ceremony. I know. And like, what I loved about that moment,
Starting point is 00:06:50 was so first of all it happened right after vows uh serena you did yours first and i i remember sensing a moment that like after yours i thought that joe was you guys were going to kiss and i was like ready for it i can tell because yours were really sweet and heartfelt you know whereas joe's kind of like we're a little yuck yucky and then and then turned into really sweet and so i was ready for the first time and then the second time i was so thrown away by joe's joke that i was like completely gone and then you guys kiss and I was like no no no no no no no no and then to my favorite thing that happened was Joe saying what I'm not supposed to do that like he's never been to a wedding before well I was standing there and I get it because after you say your
Starting point is 00:07:41 vows like your instinct is to kiss the person that has just said all of these really really nice things to you, aka my husband. So you're kind of like, I don't know what to do now. Like I just kind of like pour my heart out. I guess I'll just like stand here and wait for you to pour your head out. And then Joe went and I literally remember it so clearly him saying, he said, I love you baby. And then he stepped forward and just like came at me.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And I was just like, all right, sure. I guess we're going to kiss now. Like, I don't know what's happening. Were you shocked when I made the Wells joke at the beginning? Yeah. And so I don't even know if I told you this afterwards, but one, like, for everyone listening, I had like 20 minutes of stand-up material that I thought was gold. And Joe, in one minute of talking, absolutely kills, takes the house down and blows all of my
Starting point is 00:08:35 jokes out of the water, which I love because I think, I think, and no, you're so funny. And, like, I was, you told me, because you told me, you're like, I got a good one. and I was waiting to experience it. I didn't know it was going to be right in the beginning of your vows. And it's so funny because I'm going through the nuts and bolts of marrying you guys. And I'm thinking like, okay, so the next thing I got to do is I got to get the rings or whatever it was. You know, like making sure I was ready for like the next thing that I wasn't really, really paying attention to you. Like I and at that point, too, I was like, okay, this is now Joe talking to Serena.
Starting point is 00:09:14 and, like, I can kind of get my thoughts back in order. And if you watch the video, you can see, like, I give you a laugh right when you hit the punchline, and then you see the gears turn in my head at a second later. You, like, realize what was sad. Yes. Oh, so good. Yeah, you literally, yeah. You, like, kind of looked at me.
Starting point is 00:09:35 You're like, huh. And they go, oh, my God. You know, that was good. Because we talked at the welcome party, us three were talking. and you're like who's going to go first and you're like who's ever going to bring down the house needs to go second and I'm like I think
Starting point is 00:09:51 I got this. Yeah and I knew about the joke so if you don't know what joke we're talking about it is on Joe's Instagram in a reel so you can go check it out there but basically it's a joke about where I think he's saying something very sweet to me and he's actually talking about Wells
Starting point is 00:10:08 but he had asked me in advance like hey I'm going to make this joke. Is this okay? Like, let me know what you think. And I was like, I think this is hilarious and I think you should definitely do it. But I'm very glad he asked me because I had just really poured my heart out in the vows. And if I'm standing there thinking that he's like saying all this sweet stuff to me and then turns to Wells and is like, just kidding, Serena, I'm not talking about you at all. Well, Wells, we asked you to do the vows via text message, which I thought that was going to get a harder laugh when you said.
Starting point is 00:10:43 because I thought it was very funny. I just think half my side was like, what? Yeah. Like, what's the big deal? That's how you ask people to do stuff. What are you talking about? Because I had texted, for our audience, I text it Wells if he would officiate earlier. I think you literally said, hey, will you marry us?
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yeah. But now I'm kind of thrown off. What was I talking? Oh, I wrote that joke that day. Really? Yeah, yeah. I was ready for that. Did you ask me to marry you guys because of that joke?
Starting point is 00:11:18 God, I did it, but I hope that wasn't Joe's intention. I have a really funny joke, but I need to see if Wals will be I'm bored for it. I know we're already married, but I've got an idea. Let's have another wedding. I've got this great joke. I need to find a guy who's got tan skin, who got curly hair, who's got brown. eyes, just like my wife, to have this payoff. That would be insane. That is something I would potentially, but that's not, that is not what I did. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the
Starting point is 00:11:58 psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like, you're not going to choose an adapted strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it, if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like, like go you, go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress, seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier. Drinking is easier. yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think Democrats have, for a very long time, allow Republicans to play them. So essentially, Republicans came up with a narrative and Democrats decided to play into that. And that only hurt the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I'm Kitty. Kyrick, Jasmine Crockett, Democratic Representative of Texas, is not known for holding back. And our recent chat on Next Question is no exception. But when you hear how she got to where she is, her intensity makes perfect sense. It's just hard to imagine a world where you don't have enough people that care to do right by people. And so that same passion that carried me through as a public defender that led me, to want to change laws and thinking about the harm that will happen, not just to my constituents, but just generally, like, I carry that weight with me because you've seen it up close.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzle. with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in... I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. Are there Jeopardy Truthers? Are there people who say that it was rigged? Yeah, ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers, right?
Starting point is 00:14:36 And then there's the other ones which are like, they gave you the answers and you still blew it. Don't miss Jeopardy legend Ken Jennings on our special game show week of The Puzzler podcast. The Puzzler is the best place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so let's talk about, um, so, were you how nervous were you on a scale of i guess on a scale of one through 10 yeah it's funny because you didn't you didn't come across nervous no you didn't um yeah so like i don't have a problem with public speaking really at all um i kind of enjoy it but i have i had never married anybody before
Starting point is 00:15:31 and so when everyone found out that it was like my first time doing it everyone does the thing where they're like are you nervous are you nervous which is a mean thing to ask somebody because that it makes you nervous. But I was like, and I think that they want to hear you say like, yes, I am nervous because I think that they're trying to put themselves in your shoes and they would feel that way. And I was like, no, I'm really not nervous. I'm excited. But also like the way that I get around like nerves and anxiety is that if you feel nerves and anxiety about something, that means it means something to you. And that's a good thing. So just got to turn a bad and do a good. And that's really just not nervous energy. It's
Starting point is 00:16:08 excitement. So I wasn't nervous at all. And then I walked down the aisle and then Joe walks up, still not nervous. And then when Serena started walking down the aisle, I had this flashback to my wedding. And I remember being up on the altar with Jesse Tyler Ferguson, who married us and Sarah. And I remember looking around and seeing every. and I was like, oh my God, this is the most important day of my life. Like, I had that thought of like, this is a big, this is a big moment. And then up there at your wedding, I was taken back to that moment. And then it all clicked of like, oh, my God, this is a, this is a big moment for them.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I really can't screw this up. And then I started a little bit of cold sweats like, oh, no, this is, I really can't screw this like, do not screw this up, do not screw this up. And then, like, once we got going, like, you know, for anyone whoever wants to get into public speaking, the easiest way to do a relatively good job in public speaking is open with a joke
Starting point is 00:17:15 because then it takes like all the anxiety out of the air and so like opened with like two jokes and we're like, okay, I'm off and running. The only thing that sucked about it was I did have a long speech. Like, you know, it was like 20 minutes before we got, where I was 18 minutes before we got to vows. I just, I was like, I need some water.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I am getting like cotton mouth over here. And thankfully I told the wedding planners was like, you need to put some water over by the vow book so I can like sneak some water. But no, I wasn't, I wasn't nervous. I was just nervous that I would ruin your guys' big day. But I didn't. I don't think I did.
Starting point is 00:17:50 No, no. You did not. No, you made it great. I, um, did you do a shot before. I did a shot right before. Yeah, I did. But, I went over to the bar, which wasn't open yet. And I was like, I need a shot of, uh, of alcohol.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And they're like, no, we can't do that. And I was like, I'm the pastor. I demand this. I've never married anybody before. But if I'm being honest, I didn't do a shot because I was nervous. I did a shot because I was a little hungover from your rehearsal dinner and welcome party that I was like, I need to equal like equalize here a little bit. Yeah, a little hair of the dog moment. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense actually. Did you for your wedding, I think we might, we may have talked about this. But how late did you stay out the night before your wedding? far too late and I told you that at your rehearsal dinner I was like do not stay out it was
Starting point is 00:18:42 one big regret yeah we the problem with what happened to us is that you know we we stayed the wedding party stayed on venue site like we got married at this winery and so when we got done with the rehearsal dinner and the welcome party we like the my closest people to me all went back to our house and so of course it was like let's open a bottle of wine and like, whatever. And then that turned into two bottles, three bottles, you know, whatever. And the worst part about it was, it's so dumb, but you can't, you don't just sleep in the same room with your to be wife that night. So, of course, Sarah gets the master suite, and they put me in like this, it was a room, it was a tiny little room that connected to the, like, the
Starting point is 00:19:34 bridesmaids quarters and so I'm hung over and I only want to do is sleep in and like sleep it off but everyone has to walk through my room to get to the bridesmaids quarters which was like starting like 7 a.m. and everyone would be walking through and chit chatting and I remember I couldn't sleep and I think three times someone threw stuff on the because I would like put the covers over my head they threw stuff on the bed like purses and stuff and it like hit me and I was like God This is horrible. Oh my God. That is horrible.
Starting point is 00:20:09 And so I remember I was really puffy for my wedding because I was a little hungover. And like Joe, you were there. Unfortunately, Serena, I was six and she couldn't come to the wedding. But like Sarah had a hard time putting my ring on the finger. And I remember for your wedding, you were like, I'm puffy. And I was like, I was there too. Yep. see that is the worst part um about welcome parties they are so much fun they're they're just it's because
Starting point is 00:20:38 it's like the first time everyone's seeing each other and yeah and there's no pressure if it's destination everyone's like i'm on vacation like i'm so relaxed i don't got anything to do more other than this wedding yeah it's not their wedding they don't care if they're hung over and then it's just drinking and drinking and yeah it's rough i'm still hurting yeah and the thing is is i don't know you Wells, but I did not sleep in Charleston. I feel like I did not get one very good night sleep just between like the hurricane and worrying about guests coming in and then worrying about the wedding and then I'm drinking so I'm not sleeping well because I'm going to bed after a few glasses of whatever. So now I'm just like tired, hungover from the wedding of needing
Starting point is 00:21:23 like three days of sleep. Yeah, well, Sarah's sick now. I blame your guys's wedding. She's over they're like yeah uh and of course like the um after the welcome party i was like sarah i need i need to go home early because i have a big day tomorrow i'm marrying these people and i do not want to be hung over but sarah was like yeah sure whatever and then of course afterwards like bachelor nation was like let's go to a bar and i was like uh no and she was like come on wondering And I was like, fine, one drink. And then, of course, we go to this bar with Andrew and Bikowski and Anna and everyone. And one drink turns into like three or four.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And I was like, Sarah, are you trying to ruin this for me? Can drink. Like, any time we go out with them, I'm, like, struggling to keep up. Like, they will go hard. Yeah. So my wife tried to sabotage your wedding with her party acumen. Well, I know they were right. We closed down Charleston after the wedding, too.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I was going to say, what happened after? So we all got back to the hotel from that party bus together. And then Joe and I were like, we're going to bed. Have a good night, guys. We just got married. We want to go hang out. And then you guys went out. But where did you go?
Starting point is 00:22:43 I think, yeah, my cousin Gia is like, oh, my God, Sarah and I are like best friends. We rode bikes all throughout Charleston at like 3 AM or something. What do you mean? Does that happen? Yes. So, first of all, Sarah did not ride bikes because she cannot ride a bike. She's the only person I've ever met that doesn't know how to ride a bike. My sister can't ride a bike either.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Okay, good. Then she's in. But she's, yeah, there's, they have a friend now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, we wanted to go to a bar. But like, Charles night closes down at midnight. So we, there were these, I don't even know if they were like communal bikes. There were just bikes there.
Starting point is 00:23:18 So we like hopped on them. We started riding. And Sarah was like on the back of the bike, like holding on onto me. And I was a little tipsy. and I was like, this is not safe. Like, we got like maybe a block and I was like, this is not good. And so I got, I was like, get off the bike
Starting point is 00:23:34 and then we put it away. And then we tried to go find a bar. First of all, Joe has a cousin who, I shit you not. His name is spaghetti, which is the most Italian thing. I was like, I don't even know if this is like, is this like racist for me to call you this?
Starting point is 00:23:53 Like, this seems not acceptable. Who's that his real name? It's his nickname. I was like, hey, what's your name? I'm spaghetti. I was like... No, yeah. It took me so long to, like, actually remember what his real name is.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And the only reason I, like, have really learned it is because on wedding invitations, we've been using his real name. But, like, I don't know anyone other than Gia, his wife, that calls him... So, Gia's my cousin. Spaghetti, Spaghetti married Gia, but Spaghetti and I went to high school together. And he was, uh, he was two years older than me. So I always, you know, I was a, yeah, I was a sophomore. He was a senior.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And he was like, yeah, spaghetti, spaghetti's here. So that's how, yeah. How did that start? What? The nickname Spaghetti. He had the nickname Spaghetti, I think, ever since he was a kid. Oh, my God. I think he loved spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I hope so. What else would they call somebody that loves spaghetti? His name. He loves spaghetti so much. Let's call him that. So, yeah, so we tried to go find a bar. We couldn't. We found a pizza place.
Starting point is 00:24:53 We walked to this pizza place in Charleston. and like it must have been like right when all the bars let out because Charleston's a college town and so we're sitting there waiting for our pizza and like a million kids walk in the door and so of course everyone's like recognizing Sarah and it's like we got to get out of here so and then spaghetti and I went across the street we bought two bottles of wine and some solo cups and we walked back with like three pizzas two bottles of wine and solo cups and we sat out in the courtyard, which I don't think you're supposed to drink outside, but whatever. And so we're out in the courtyard in front of the hotel and we drank two bottles of wine
Starting point is 00:25:35 and ate pizza and talked about like how beautiful your wedding was and why the hell is named is spaghetti and like our aliens real. Like it got real, real real. Was it just the four of you? Yes. Oh my gosh. So my cousin Samantha, um, is married to tony and tony and spaghetti are are close when they like go and when they get really drunk tony tony refers to himself as rigatoni and spaghetti oh my god i didn't know that yeah yeah it's just spaghetti and rigatoni everyone gets a pasta nickname we've got peni we've got facetini your family is so italian um all right before we get into uh some paradise stuff I want to ask you for our knowledge.
Starting point is 00:26:26 How long until you guys went on your honeymoon right after your wedding? Not right afterwards. So Sarah was still, we were, Sarah was still filming Love Island during the wedding. So she got like that weekend off effectively. They were filming in Santa Barbara, thankfully. So what we ended up doing was after the wedding, we went to Oh, hi. We stayed there for a night. And then we went to Santa Barbara.
Starting point is 00:26:52 because she had a film for like two or three days and then we went to we did like a mini moon which we went to this like place in big sir for like two nights and then she had to go back for work I guess and then we waited like I think it was a good like three weeks before we went to like the Maldives and did our like true honeymoon so yeah it wasn't like I remember being like I want to drive away in like an old car with like cans rattling down the street and like go straight to the airport but that didn't happen and I assume you guys have to wait a little bit right we're yeah we're waiting just a week yeah but I was we were like we got home yesterday and we were like depressed like it's over and like we're just with
Starting point is 00:27:38 everyone and now we're back in our apartment in New York what happened um so I get like how people go straight on their honeymoon because the excitement just doesn't stop it like keeps going yeah and I was saying like it's fine that we have to wait a week we've got some stuff we've got to do this week anyway and you know we'll settle in unpack do laundry repack but like I'm glad that our honeymoon is like I would say if you're doing a honeymoon like within three weeks of your wedding is like nice because it's like okay we were so depressed yesterday you come off of such a high you've been building towards this weekend for a whole year and then it's over to have at least the honeymoon to look forward to has been nice of like okay it's fine you know we're gonna we get to go on a beautiful
Starting point is 00:28:20 trip next week together. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. Well, eat and drink yourself into like just oblivion because you don't have to take more pictures. There's no more videos. Like, it doesn't matter what you look like.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Go have fun. Yeah. I told Serena after this, it's all going down for me now. Yeah. Did you? It's not the plan. Did I say, nah. Joe woke up and went for a run this morning.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I did. I ran five miles this morning. I ran five miles this morning. I feel good. Do you keep your heart rate under 160? No. I didn't wear the heart rate minor. I figured.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I figure right now heart rate is not something I could control. There's a lot that's got to get flushed out of the system first. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. when you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to choose an adapted strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like go you, go blank yourself,
Starting point is 00:29:34 right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think Democrats have, for a very long time, allow Republicans to play them. So essentially, Republicans came up with a narrative, and Democrats decided to play into that. And that only hurt the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I'm Kitty Couric. Jasmine Crockett, Democratic Representative of Texas, is not known for holding back. And our recent chat on Next Question is no exception. But when you hear how she got to where she is, her intensity makes perfect sense. It's just hard to imagine a world where you don't have enough people that care to do right by people. And so that same passion that carried me through as a public defender, that led me to want to change laws and thinking about the harm that will happen, not just to my constituents, but just generally,
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Starting point is 00:31:33 Only you can prevent wildfires. Brought to you by the USDA Forest Service, your state forester and the ad council. Wells, what is, how is Paradise? it was great it was we paradise real hard real fast um yeah you know i mean it's i'll tell you what was weird joe and serena um there were no crabs this year oh that is weird what very very weird because so the way it works in paradise the crabs don't live on the beach that they live in the mountain uh the mountainside when it rains the crabs their little houses get filled with
Starting point is 00:32:16 water so they come out and that's why like you know there's always a rose ceremony or something that there's like a big storm and then all of a sudden just the crabs are everywhere but it never rained really while we were there which we are so thankful for because you guys remember there would be like a rose ceremony we had the shut down then we couldn't start until like five in the morning it's just like a really long night we were grateful for that but it was it was a very weird thing of like like the unofficial mascot of paradise are these crabs and they were nowhere to be found and it was funny because obviously the cast is somewhat, you know, aware and knowledgeable of this crab problem that we have when we film. And they were like, are you guys making this up? Like, there's,
Starting point is 00:32:58 there's no, there's no crab. There's no crabs here. That's crazy. Like, there were crabs literally everywhere. Like, in the shower, in the bathroom, in the sink. Like, I can't imagine being there and not seeing any crabs. Like, they were literally, we had a lot of rain our season, too, but they were literally everywhere. Yeah. I mean, I've been there twice and there was always a ton of crabs. That actually brings me back to when we took our, were you expecting us to call you up for a shot?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Oh, yeah. Well, because we had talked before, when we talked about like what you guys wanted, you know, the original thought was we were going to do it on the altar, like take a shot together. Which I'm glad we didn't do that, by the way. I would not have wanted to do that. but that so so you were like i think we've got something else planned so i had a i assumed something was coming what i didn't plan on was how big the shot was going to be oh my god it was
Starting point is 00:33:55 so big i was just like half a glass i just had so like i was just on such an adrenaline rush just from speaking and like the whole thing and i was like it just finally over let's just it could have been a whole bottle i would have drank the whole thing yeah it's just like let's No, I went to the table to grab the shots. I'm kind of like looking for them because I'm like, I just see these three glasses of water here. And I'm like, oh, no, these are the shots that we'll be doing. Yeah, and we did shots the next day too.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Anything you can tease about Paradise before we let you go. Well, I will say this. You know, I think, you know, the mission statement is that people end up like you, right? like they get engaged and they get married and all that kind of stuff. And I will say that there is someone who gets married this year, which is a kind of a new thing for Paradise. There is a lot of tears. There's a lot of crying.
Starting point is 00:35:03 There's a lot of pooping. There's a lot of not pooping. That one's new too for Paradise. But no, it's a really good season. it's really, really funny. I think, and I also think that, like, we're airing later in the year, and I think people, like, want the show back.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And it'll be really interesting to see how it works because we're coming on after Golden Bachelor. So, like, people are going to be watching, like, these old people make out and then have to watch, like, then a bunch of young people sweating on the beach. So it would be interesting to see, like how Bachelor Nation takes it all, but I think it's going to be a really good season. I think
Starting point is 00:35:46 everyone's going to really like it. And then, you know, people that I know are fan favorites and are very popular in Bachelor Nation are going to be very pleased because they have like really good storylines. I think people are going to be really pleased with like how things shake out, which is nice. Nice. Do you think, whilst you think you will be asked by anyone else in Bachelor Nation to marry them. I don't know. Would you do it? Hell yeah. I had the most fun. But also it is a big responsibility though. It is a lot. Like even like seeing like everything that you wrote and you had to do, it's a lot. Like it's not just like, because I remember when we asked you, I was like, man, this, this is also a kind of a pain in the ass. No, I mean, here's the thing. Like if it was a
Starting point is 00:36:38 Bachelor nation couple that I didn't really know, I might be like, I think that like Jesse should do this and not me, you know? Yeah. But like, for me, it was really wonderful because it was this full circle moment. Like, obviously, Joe, you and I've done a couple of shows together. And then I got to see your guys' relationship, you know, a couple years ago in Paradise. And I was there on the last day, which I'm not usually there on the last day, but you're seeing. season was the season that I was hosting there at the end. So I kind of had to be there. I remember I had to like film the out and everything, the outro. And so I have these pictures of us on that day and of you guys. And so getting there to get to be there to marry you guys was like this really
Starting point is 00:37:28 wonderful full circle moment for me. So I like, yes, it is a pain in the ass, but it was like a labor of love. Like I loved it. And I'm so like happy that I got to do it. it and like now i want to be like does anyone in bachelor nation need me to marry them uh i won't be free like i was for joan serena but like let's go maybe this is like a new job for me i'm gonna say you have a new side hustle reverend wells hire him oh great so much fun well walls uh we won't take up any more your time honestly we just thank you so much we had so much fun you truly like I feel like you made our wedding even greater than it was going to be. And I'm glad you felt like it was a full circle moment because that's really how we felt as well
Starting point is 00:38:14 and was one of the main reasons that we wanted you to marry us. So yeah, thank you so much. When you said yes, Serena cried. And Serena has cried a lot lately. And one thing she told me when we met in paradise, she doesn't cry. I am not a sad crier or a stressed angry cryer, but I am a wedding crier, apparently, is what we've learned because I've done a lot of wedding crying, but a happy wedding crier. You're a pretty crier. Thank you. You are a pretty crying. That is important. I'm so annoyed because I've never gotten Joe to cry. And like, that's one of my things that, like, I feel like I'm good at is getting people to cry at the bar and never got him to cry at the bar. And then I thought, finally, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:38:59 this wedding. And I'm going to get him to cry. And I still didn't. do it so i know i almost i almost i almost got emotional i almost got emotional on the on the first look and the truth is if we didn't do a first look and we would await it for that moment to be the altar i probably i probably would have tear it up really yeah but i also had to listen to my dad the whole time like if you cry i'm walking out we can't have that we can't have that so um i i Well, last story about your dad is the funniest thing in the world. So at the rehearsal dinner, I was like, I love speech. I love listening to people's speeches.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I love judging people's speeches, which, by the way, your sister and your brother gave completely different types of speeches at the ceremony, but they were the best speeches I've heard in a very long time. They were so good. but at the rehearsal dinner that's usually when everyone speaks like everyone gets a shot at like saying whatever they want to say
Starting point is 00:40:07 and your dad comes over and I go big Joe are you going to speak and he goes I'm not going to speak that's for sissies what? And he goes did your father speak? And I was like
Starting point is 00:40:20 yeah whoever was next to me like Jimmy or Joe there's a million Joe's at this whole thing or Joans they were like My dad spoke, too.
Starting point is 00:40:32 He was like, oh, no, do I got to speak now? I'm not prepared. And I was like, yes, we're going to get some off-the-wall speech from your dad. And it didn't happen. But, you know, maybe at your brother's wedding. Yeah, maybe he was. He was fun, though. He was a good time.
Starting point is 00:40:49 He was a good time. He was the best. But yeah, yeah. He, well, that's it. We have stories. Everyone leaving that wedding head, the story of Joe's Paris. or specifically Joe's dad that they will hold for the rest of their lives. He's just such a character.
Starting point is 00:41:06 So much fun. Wells, thank you so much. We really appreciate you and everything you did for us. And yeah, all our listeners, make sure to check out Wells and the rest of the Bachelor in Paradise cast
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