Bachelor Happy Hour - Faith Martin — Part 1: Breast Reductions, a Breakup, and Looking Your Age | Golden Hour
Episode Date: August 13, 2026Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re sitting down with Faith from “The Golden Bachelor” and “Bachelor in Paradise”! Faith has so many updates that she’s ready ...to share. In part one of our interview, we’re diving into her recent breast reduction, a breakup, and a trip down memory lane. After the ladies bond over their shared experiences with breast reductions, we get into the guy she was seeing and why things didn’t work out. We also get a never-before-seen look at her experience on “Paradise” — how did things end up between her and Kim once they left the show? Tune in now and be sure to stay tuned for part two dropping Monday!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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get your podcasts. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour, Golden Hour. I'm Kathy. And I'm Susan and we're
back. We're back. I think some days we should see if people are
are paying attention. I should say, I'm Susan. I think I used to be Kathy. I think we should just mix
it up a little and see if people are really paying attention. We're back. Guess who I am. You think they
know by our voice. I think they do, though. I think they figure out. I can't believe you just said that.
This is something else I was going to tell you. I went with my daughter to the pool yesterday with
my little three-year-old granddaughter. And we're sitting there. We're talking to this lady and
she walks away. And literally she walks back 10 minutes ago, she goes, excuse me, are you Kathy?
Now, I tell you, I had on a big, huge hat covering my big sunglasses.
I had, yes, you have seen me.
And I said, yes, Sam.
She goes, oh, my God.
And we started the whole thing.
I loved you.
My daughter's like, oh, my God, here we go again.
And I said, I have to ask you, how did you know it was me?
I mean, I'm sitting here in a bathing suit with a big hat on and sunglasses.
She said, you have a voice like no one else.
when I heard your voice, I knew it was you and I said to my husband, I know it's her.
That's her. I know it's her. So there you go. There you go. My voice tells it all.
Mine was my laugh. It happened in the Outer Banks on the beach.
And two girls, women came up to me and said, I'm sorry. We were starting to pack up and shake the blankets out, you know, getting ready to leave the beach for the day.
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All right. So between your laugh and my voice, we are going to welcome a very, very special today.
Golden Bachelor alum. Faith is here with us today. Hi, Faith.
Hey, Faith. I have to agree. I recognize both your voices so much.
Of course, the only time we really get to talk is on the phone, right? So I'm such an auditory person anyway.
Yeah. You're looking fabulous.
Oh, so much to talk to you about. You look.
great. I don't even have a mascara on. Oh, stop. I don't wear mascara anymore. I just, you know.
So, we got to jump right in. There's a lot, exactly. You don't wear makeup. You're not coloring
your hair. You're looking a little less top-heavy. What's going on? I did. How can you tell,
Kathy? I can't even see it. Well, I don't know if I was very explicit about my complaining
about breasts when I was on the show.
But they had bothered me so much, you know, like cleavage dilemma, you know, nonstop.
I hated the big boob thing for the past probably five, six years.
Just, you know, I'd be driving in the car and I'm like, oh my God, my boobs are sitting on my lap.
That's what it felt like.
I felt like I couldn't breathe.
You know, they were just getting, I don't know, you know, when you're younger and they
stay in place is one thing, but all of a sudden, I was just like, you know, and it was a big chunk of
money, which it's not like I've got a ton of money to throw around, but it was really worth it to
me. I'm just like, I just want to feel lighter. What made you do it now? I just got to that point,
and I had some friends that had gotten breast reductions, and I was like, do you, you know,
do you feel like you breathe better, pulling up your bathing suit and everything? Anyway, all of a sudden,
the thought of it. And I remember calling my surgeon and going, look, I can't wait a month.
Like, I can't breathe. He's like, calm down. You're okay. Faith. And I'm like, no, I'm really not.
You're riding my force. And I'm like, ugh. Okay. I just want to say for all that there are three
women on this podcast and all three of us have had breast production. Yeah. And I'm here to say
that three. I had two. Oh. They grow back. I'm telling you, they grow. Don't.
gain a pound because that's where it goes. I know. I know that's true because when, you know,
I told him, I said, well, you take enough that if I gain five pounds or something, they're not
going to like have it all go right there. Yeah, I feel so much better and so much better.
How about the recovery? Has it been tough or not? No, not at all. I happen to have a very, very good
surgeon. He was local because I thought, you know, everybody says, don't do anything in the Tri-Cities,
go to Seattle.
And I was like, I don't want to go to Seattle for every post-off appointment and everything.
So I just trusted my local peeps.
I actually, it was somebody I used to do voice work for, you know, on the radio for so long.
So I knew their game because I did all work.
I thought you were going to say somebody I used to date.
I was going to go, oh, my God.
No, but I used to do their commercials.
So I remember, you know, voicing their commercials for so many years.
I'm thinking, oh, they must be pretty good.
Let me go check it out.
So I went and talked to the surgeon, and it healed exactly what he said it would.
Everything.
It was great.
It was really done well.
So it was really.
On the show, you never complained, but we all saw them.
We all saw them.
I saw them in paradise.
The big boobies.
Two things.
I saw her in Paradise.
And trust me, if you thought you saw her boots in Golden Bachelor, they were really sticking out there in Paradise.
But, Faith, I'm looking at you right now.
I'm going to tell you, honey, I don't believe that you had a press production.
And Susan, I know.
you didn't because I've seen your body.
You guys are paying money
for nothing. No. No, they are
so small. I mean, there are a handful
that is a big difference. I guess. Oh, yeah.
I love them so much. I'm so
happy with them. I just, I do.
I love my boobs for the first time
in a very long time. Do you wish you
did it a long time ago? I mean, yes.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Has it changed
how you feel about yourself, though? Because
most women, when we're younger, you know, our boobs
define our confidence level.
They help define our confidence level when you get to dating and all that.
So we'll get into dating a minute.
I want to know how do you feel differently, emotionally about yourself having done this?
I think, hmm, how do I feel differently?
I'm so thrilled.
I think, you know, it's funny because I think we as women maybe see our breasts differently
than maybe how the public see them or how men see them.
I feel like a lot of times my boobs, my boobs, my breasts made it into a room before I did.
And I felt like, you know, that was something, especially when it came to men, it's like, good God, could you see past my breast for a minute and know that I'm a person in here, you know?
I just, that always bothered me.
And then people think that you're trying to dress provocatively, but what they don't understand is that unless you want to wear a tent, you have to.
have something that fits you here, but is big and, you know, and so every shirt is low-knacked,
every shirt shows cleavage, every shirt looks like you're trying to be all booby.
It's just hard to get away from where, you know, when I was really, really young and really, really
thin, I didn't have boobs, and I remember thinking, oh, I want to have boobs when I grow up.
I'm crazy for them.
But, yeah, but then after you breastfeed and have kids and then you've got all this, you know,
just everything sort of moves up into that realm.
It's just different.
Everything moves down, faith.
Well, eventually it moves down, but for a while it moves up.
And then, you know, when you start feeling them dragging,
you do everything you can to pull them up.
And then they're like up in your neck and, you know, I don't know,
I'm just over it.
Do you remember being younger and boobs were in style?
Yes.
And then, I don't know, about five, ten years ago, all of a sudden,
no boobs were it, you know.
Well, I've noticed on movies and in all the, you know, TV shows, everybody's got little boobies again.
I'm like, oh, thank God, you know.
But the main thing, I don't really care what anybody thinks.
I just wanted to do what I think.
People are like, oh, my God, you're going to spend that much money on a breast reduction.
You could get a facelift.
And I'm like, what are you saying?
I don't even do Botox anymore.
I don't do anything.
Like I said, I don't wear mascara anymore.
I wear it.
What's this, all this change?
from what happened um you know well i only did botox for the show and i i had done it a couple times
in my life because my friend on radio that i had she was one of those types that do every little
rejuvenative thing possible and we used to always get people coming to us going can we experiment
on your lips can we give you bo-tox and talk about it you know blah blah so i did a lot of that
you know through the radio stuff um but i just you know every time i did it i was like ow
why am I doing this to my face?
You didn't see a difference afterwards?
Well, yeah, like four days, five days a week later, I'm like, oh my God, I love this.
Look at my shiny forehead and it's so smooth.
Yeah, you know, I loved that.
But I don't know.
I think now I'm turning 64 in a few days and I'm like, yeah, I think it's okay for me to look 64.
I don't care.
I'm not really dating before.
I don't really.
Good for you.
So, wait, you're not dating anymore.
Not interested in it or just taking a break?
No, I just think, I mean, certainly,
if somebody walked into my realm that I was super attracted to, maybe.
Because there's not anybody I'm really very interested in, ever.
And when I am, if you play hard to get, then they get really clinging.
So. See, there's no win.
Yeah.
You know, here's the thing.
you know, it's so rare that I'm attracted to anyone.
But I am the type that if I'm attracted to them, I got to go for it
because that just doesn't happen enough that I'm actually attracted to somebody.
But it never fails.
Three months in, I'm like, ew.
So I, yeah.
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It's images and words being spoken, captured by some sort of technology.
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And you make it on, you make your own.
That's great.
I call him Terro Reed.
It's a good name.
They're all named after cast members of American Pie.
Yeah.
Oh, gotcha.
I call, I don't, I never looked up if she was in this, but I call him Leachie Sobiesky.
Yeah.
I don't think she was an American Pie, but I still like that.
Haven't looked it up.
She was prominent around the same time.
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Why are you guys talking to me?
I'm worried.
I'm worried.
Why are you talking so down?
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Are you prepared to talk
about the guy? Because you went public
and again, these are things
you and I've talked about on the phone, but the rest
of Bachelor Nation wants to hear.
Oh, they don't care. Do they?
Do they care? Yes. You know why?
Because people are age,
They're interested in dating.
They're interested in what works, what doesn't work.
And you went online and publicly announced this relationship.
You told me on the phone, how you hoped it happened for me.
You were so.
I was.
You were so thrilled.
All right, so talk about it a little bit.
Okay.
So, first of all, it is really difficult for me who I have so many interests and hobbies and things that I like to do.
Generally, in my past, men are annoyed.
They don't think I give them enough time.
because I have other outside interests that I love to do.
I love to dance.
I sing.
I perform on the weekends.
I love to ride horses.
I, you know, I just do a lot of things.
So guys that don't enjoy the same things are like, well, what am I going to see you?
And I'm like, you know, I'd rather go ride my horse than be with you.
You know, so if I'm really attracted to you, I don't have to do everything with you,
but they seem to have a hard time with doing very little, you know.
So I, in the past, I've tried to date people that don't have similar interest.
And then I always get the, you don't make me a priority.
And so I think, and I never want to settle for that because I just don't feel like we're very compatible.
And I tend to go for guys that I have great chemistry with, but then I don't really have anything else.
And so that doesn't really work, right?
So then I, you know, it just doesn't work.
Well, then I met this guy and the way he portrayed himself is,
that we have all these things in common, right? He said he's a musician. He was showing me all his
guitars, his amps, you know, I sounded like he knew what he was talking about. He said he was a
horse person. I'm like, okay, how could this go wrong if I'm actually being attracted to this
guy? I thought he was cute online. So then I meet him and we totally hit it off and he was
intellectually stimulating and I found him interesting and he had a great sense of humor and he seemed
like you had some emotional depth and, you know, just a great fun guy.
So I'm like, okay, okay, and can we get really vivid here?
Because I shouldn't say this.
Oh, please do.
Come on.
It's so bad.
I'm terrible.
But, you know, that chemistry thing is a big deal to me.
So it's like in our first encounter, I was like, thank you God.
You know, like, wow.
So I was just like, I'm sold.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Are you saying your first sexual encounter?
Yes, with him.
Yeah.
Everything was in sync.
Well, I was just like, this is great at least, you know.
He's great in bed.
I can work with this, you know.
This will do just fine.
Exactly.
It's all about Susan's heels, right?
Okay, so anyway.
So I'm like, okay, so I'm thinking we have all these great commonalities, the guys endowed nicely.
Good God.
I have chemistry. I know there goes
the show. Anyway.
No, it's not. Okay, this is great.
Yeah, because
yeah, okay, so I'm like
this is going to be great.
We forget. And the one thing
that I mentioned in
the very first date that
we ever had is
I said, I'm not a big drinker.
Like, I hardly drink ever.
And if I do, it's a glass
maybe two on a
full moon occasion. Like, I just don't,
I don't do substances.
I don't.
I just don't.
I'm too busy.
I have too much going on.
Plus, I don't know.
I'm just not a substance person, right?
So I, that's important to me because I live for 22 years with a, you know, really devastatingly addicted alcoholic.
And I don't want to ride that bus again.
So what it really came down to was, you know, that.
Did he share with you that he was?
or did he hide something?
No, he was not supposedly a big drinker.
But about the second or third time I had to drive home
and after he passed out a couple of times
and he was doing weed every day and drinking every day.
And so I'm just like, I thought we had this talked about, you know.
Wait, did you say that to him or you send that to us?
No, I said that to him.
And he's like, I don't.
Yeah, I mean, I think that he would have been the type
that would cut back a little bit.
but for some reason, I just, my respect level went, just drop the R word happens.
Yeah.
And I just, the other thing was he doesn't even know how to play guitar and he really wasn't a horseman.
And, you know, nothing bad to say about the guy.
He owns horses and he takes a lesson every week.
I've had horses my whole entire life.
He just wasn't very knowledgeable.
And that's not to say that, you know, and it would have been fine.
But the other part was he was working full time.
I'm retired pretty much other than playing music.
And I was just thinking, I don't know, I guess I expected,
I just didn't want to have to feel like I was babysitting, you know,
with the interest they said.
And I was so excited to play music with him.
I don't think he knew two chords.
So I just felt like I was a little bit, you know.
Bamboozled.
A little bit, yeah.
And then, yeah, the substance thing, it's weird because I definitely have an inner,
block. Like if I see you slurring your words drunk and passing out, all of a sudden, I feel
nothing for you. That's unattractive, too. I just, faith, that, you know, I make jokes on this
podcast and on the show and stuff, you know, when's the bar open? I make jokes about finding drinks,
but truly, that's not who I am. It's more of a shtick. But I will tell you, for me, to put
what you said, you had great strength and power to, uh, to, you know, to, you know, to, you know,
say to him and admit to yourself he isn't, you know, watch what he did, not what he said, right?
How far long into the relationship? How many months was it? Probably, I noticed it, you know,
when you're, when you're hopeful, you are a little bit in denial. Yes. And, you know, the first
thing I did is I went to my sons, because my sons are the most, I don't know, they're brilliant
kids. And I always go to them for the male perspective. Like, um, so I was like,
you know, here's how I'm feeling, da-da-da.
And they're like, well, wanted to bring it up, you know, so I had said to him, you know,
do you drink like every single day? No. And I'm like, well, that's funny. I've been here two
months and it's every day, you know. And so, um, I asked him. I asked, I asked the guy
I was dating, you know, I said, he drank every day and he said no. He said no. And I'm like,
well, you've drank every day for two months. You know, there's not been a day that's gone by.
So I, and even if he, I don't know that I would have had such a hard time if he would have drank a little every day.
Like have a cocktail, a happy hour.
Yeah.
It just was a little more extreme.
And I don't even like that.
I mean, I don't know.
I just feel like as we get older, our health is so important.
And it's such a cancer-causing element.
It disrupts your sleep.
And then if you've ever tried to have a rational conversation with somebody that's drunk, you know it's not possible.
so and it shrinks your brain.
So you're going to be mentally declining as the years progress.
If you're in taking alcohol every day.
I'm sorry, I'm just not playing that.
I'm just not doing that game, you know?
That's not going to make you happy.
No, I'm not going to make me happy.
And I've just seen too much of it that I just, it's a big turnoff to me.
So even though, even though sometimes you want to feel different, you just lose it inside.
I had a boyfriend a long time ago.
I just, I really loved and he cheated on me.
and I forgave him, but I'm like, I think I can get through this, you know?
And then I'm like, I really was hoping to get through it, but I just don't feel the same about you.
You know, like, it's not like you're mad.
It's not like people are human.
They do stupid stuff.
But I, yeah, it's something.
It's like, even though I forgive you and I'm not mad, I just don't really like you all that much anymore.
So I think something changes.
And I think the person that, if I'm ever with anyone, I have to fully respect their intellect,
their integrity, who they are as a person.
And I've got to really be impressed, you know.
So, Faith, you do.
I mean, I know you've got your little ranch.
You've got a lot of stuff going on where you live.
Is there a space?
I mean, you're young and beautiful and you have such a full life.
But I think about this all the time.
Susan and I, we're really busy.
We have a lot going on.
But sometimes I think it would be really nice to have that companionship
that person to, you know, share dinners with and all those things.
So I know you've done that.
So here's the thing.
When you see your future, how do you see it without a guy?
Tell me how it looks down the road for you.
You know, I've lived it without a guy now for so many years.
So it looks just like it looks.
And surprisingly, I, you know, if anybody would have ever said when I was growing up in school,
who's the person you would think would never be without a guy?
They'd be like, oh, faith, for sure.
I put everything into my relationships.
I always have.
Relationships were always my number one priority.
I didn't realize how great life could be without a guy
until I was divorced and got to live singly.
So the Bachelor called you up and made you feel it all over again.
And then she fell in love with Gary.
She gets all the guys, Susan.
She gets all the guys.
You guys, I have to tell you, this is so funny.
And I'm coming back to the question, but I play music on the weekends, right?
Every single weekend I play, there's always somebody in the crowd that wants to go,
he sure dodged the bullet there, didn't you?
Oh, my God.
I can be rich if I had a nickel.
But they always ask me, is he just a jerk?
And I'm like, no, I love him.
He's a great guy.
I, you know, I'm like, and they're like, are you, you know, how do you feel?
And I'm like, I'm so happy for him.
He's got a beautiful girlfriend.
If it's meant to be the way it was, doesn't mean I.
don't love her, but I don't think that we were suited for marriage.
Tell me, as you look back on your time, Angola Badgerk, tell me what goes through your head
other than, you know, your...
Other than how humiliatingly embarrassing it was, aside from that?
No, I loved it.
I did.
I mean, I'm the experience, I'm one of those people that give me anything to disrupt my
life and give me something new to think about.
I think that it was by far such a magical experience.
I learned so much about myself.
It was so in line.
The triggers, the triggers of how I felt in a group, you know, of women that were supportive yet intimidating.
It was just an experience to be part of all that.
Also, the total head trips that you put yourself through with regard to, is this the guy that I meant to be with?
Because why else would I be on this crazy show, you know?
The things that you contemplate and think about, you actually are for the first time evaluating,
what do I want my life to look like?
What would it look like?
Letting go of all those things about playing games because you've got a year to play hard to get
when you only have a very short time.
So you've got to get down to the nitty gritty and ask the important questions because maybe this is a guy
and you got to give it 100%.
Because what if he is the person you really want?
All that weird stuff going on in your head, right?
Bachelor in Paradise is even more head trippy to me.
Tell me about this one.
But I loved it.
I loved it because I had to re-evaluate all the things I've already decided about myself,
about what I want in life, everything.
And because I've always, but it's funny, it made full circles.
So I've always gone for the chemistry.
Like if I don't crave having sex with you, do not move in with me.
And you were craving him in paradise.
I'm dying.
I'm dying to say you craved sex with him.
No, no, hey, hear me out, hear me out.
Hear me out.
This was the thing is that that's my whole life, how I've always been.
So here I am, and they didn't show this on Bachelor in Paradise,
but I marched Kim down to the beach and said,
I don't feel those feelings for you.
I like your companion shop.
I like that you're a nice person.
We can enjoy it, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But I'm not interested in you like that, right?
Faith, you were making out like no other.
I was on this.
I'm going, what?
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Okay, so the thing was, is that when I told him, when I said, I'm not interested in you like that, he was like, faith, it's okay.
We can be friends.
Like, you deserve to have it all.
You deserve to have those feelings.
And I was like, really, you don't hate me?
And he's like, no, not at all.
And I was like, okay, few.
Well, then they turned it into a game show.
So we were just there.
And then we were having so much fun talking.
I said, I'm really surprised I'm enjoying you this much.
And he laughed.
Then he kissed me in the pool and I actually felt something.
So then I was like, oh my God, maybe it's just because I haven't kissed anybody for so long.
So then I was trying to figure it out.
So then what happened was the producers are saying, well, what is it that you like about him?
And I'm like, gosh, she's really a nice man.
He's very intellectually.
He's not bad looking, blah, blah, blah, but I just don't have those feelings.
And so we kept going through this over and over and I kept saying, well, I just don't have those feelings.
So then I'm in the middle of this conversation in an interview and I said, I just have to have the
chemistry because and I enjoy affection like who doesn't enjoy affection but I and and companionship and
affection but I was like and I was telling him I just you know what would keep you coming back in a
relationship if you didn't have the chemistry after I had a big check read off read off a big list
of qualities that he had and it occurred to me oh my God I've never in my life gone for qualities
I've only gone for chemistry so that was something I had to
to look at. So I was like, well, I will give it an earnest thought. And then what happened was we
were allowed to have time alone with them. Right. So I had an hour with him and we were just going to
watch a movie. But as soon as he sat on the bed next to me, I went, no, no, no, this ain't
working. So that was like I knew. Can I just bring up faith? I mean, first of all, you know,
there were lots of behind the scene things that we don't have to get into right now. But
But the one you have to tell everybody about was when we had that horrible rainstorm.
And remember, tell people that story about it.
Because that was, and if you don't fill in the blanks, I will.
It was one of the funniest things.
It was horrible.
Well, so what happened was, if you remember, I flew home for a week and came back.
So I'm not going to lie.
When I flew home, I was telling my family in Gig Harbor, I had so much fun with this,
Kim guy, but I really wasn't attracted to him at all.
But he really is a great guy.
They're like, well, bring him over.
And I was like, oh, you guys know, and he just lived, you know, a little short time away.
So I had him come over.
So we had so much fun.
But I was like, yeah, I don't think it's right.
But I also am reevaluating everything that I think about myself and the way that I think.
Because what has it gotten me?
Every guy I'm really infatuated and have great chemistry with, they have no sustainable qualities to even hold down a relationship or they're 30, you know.
So I'm like, okay, this is got to stop.
They don't have a job.
Well, so I just was like, I just need to re-look at things, you know.
And I want to be the kind of person that doesn't stay set in their way so much that you, you know, leave out other possible areas of growth, right?
So I was really debating all that.
Anyway, but then we fly all the way back.
I'm exhausted.
I'm tired.
For some reason, I did not feel well.
I don't know if it was just the fatigue or what.
Then we have that dang rainstorm.
It was a deluge.
It wasn't a rainstorm.
Yeah, it was really bad.
And I think, and I feel bad saying this because, like, I don't want to ever hurt Kim's feelings.
He is really sweet.
I will jump in 100% if I think there's a chance that I might be able to feel something.
But as soon as I know I'm not, I'm out and I'm all out.
I was contemplating all these things because this is what happens to me.
I mean, even, you know, before the show, I met this guy.
And I felt something for a little while.
And then all of a sudden, I don't need more.
And what do you do?
Yeah, I call it the ick factor.
It's just like, yeah, I just, it's like, I like you, I like you, like you.
Oops, I don't like you.
Yeah.
And that's a horrible way to do it again.
If they called the paradise called again, would you go back on?
If I, if who called me?
Paradise.
Oh, God, yes.
Oh, that's, I tell people all the time.
That was the best paid vacation I could never afford in my life.
It was so fun.
I mean, they'd take a sound at the beach.
We'd to swim in the pool.
Oh my gosh. And you know what? I love how they treated us. And I'm not going to lie, if the one thing that rich and famous people get that's cool, it's that getting taken care of where you get driven around. You don't have to think about where are you going and get the directions. And they take care of your luggage and they bring you here and order your coffee and get you on a plane. And I was just like, God, it feels so good.
Do you think it's a good thing for Goldens? Do you think it would ever be success?
if they did it like a golden one.
Oh, you know, I think that they need to open it up to way more guys, you know.
I think that they, that's what I was really disappointed in.
Yeah, there wasn't enough.
There was nobody.
And I mean, you know, you heard it.
Nobody.
No.
Well, you know, I just, I really had high hopes.
I honestly was thinking, oh my God, I just want to kiss again.
Like, I just want to, I just want to kiss somebody.
Let yourself go.
Feel the feeling.
Just, yeah, like all that, you know, I just, it would just be fun to experiment with chemistry and feel interested about anybody and intrigued that, and anybody that, you know, I don't know.
So, but I just wasn't.
So, Faith, you're right.
There weren't a lot of guys there, clearly.
Well, everybody was already matched up by the time I got there.
I was hoping for all fresh new guys.
I have to say
I was
you know how I felt about that
Kathy it's like no if you all are
matching up with a friend
just you can stay on the show
that's not the point of the show
I didn't
I didn't know
everyone no no I did not
guys guys
that we can set this record straight
right now
the Keith said to me
he was going to give me the rose
the first rose he said
if you give me the
second race he goes then we're on her own because i've heard he said there are a lot of new women coming in
so i want to have a chance to see who that is so you're on your own after the second row i said fine with me
and because remember faith i don't know if you knew but we had all been told that they were going to
bring in new people so so the third row the third rose thing came and uh the men were giving the roses
and i didn't expect keith gave it to me and there was more to that story that's not fair for me
say because. Yeah, there always is so much more
no, no, no, but we, we, it was
only the first rose and I love Keith.
We are very good friends. Right.
But that, the thing was is that when everybody
teams up like that, when they're really not
feeling anything, it kind of
alleviates the chance for
anyone else to get to know that.
But nobody, you know, I wasn't holding
Keith hostage. Yeah, I know, but not
say that. But we're also the
kind of women that, like, like at first,
you know, I shared a little platonic
kiss with Gary. But once I
knew that he was.
Gary Levinson? Yeah, just on our first night.
Okay, everyone, that's all for part one with faith.
Stay tuned for part two.
Bye.
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