Bachelor Happy Hour - Faith Martin — Part 2: Navigating the Single Life and Advice to Women Everywhere | Golden Hour
Episode Date: August 17, 2026Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back for part two with Faith Martin! We pick right back up where we left off, getting into all the fallout from “Bachelor in Paradise.” Then..., we chat with Faith about her dating life; what is it about cowboys that really turns her off? Next, we dive into some of your questions; is it normal for your partner to keep a running list of things you do that upsets them? Am I too independent to find a partner? Faith is weighing in and dishing out her best advice! Plus, Kathy and Susan discuss the interview and reflect on their relationship with Faith. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey, everyone.
Welcome back to Golden Hour.
We're here for Part 2 with Faith.
Let's get right into it.
Like at first, you know, I shared a little platonic kiss with Gary, but once I knew that he was...
Gary Levinez.
Yeah, just on our first night.
Yeah, on our first night.
Wasn't a romanticist.
It was just a kiss.
But, you know, I mean, I guess it takes a while to get to know and kind of see if there's any kind of a feeling.
But...
Yeah, so there were a lot of things that were going on in Paradise.
So which begs my next question, do you think that, I mean, we've got, what, three or four couples that came out of Paradise?
and they're getting married and they're still together.
Do you think in that time frame that it could work for Golden's not,
we had what three or four guys and some of them, you know,
wouldn't make it past a first round on to tell the truth.
I mean, forget it.
But if they had a good selection of men and women,
their varied selection, do you think that we could find love in paradise?
Sure, because it's, you know, like regular.
And why not?
Because all it is is, is.
a numbers game, but you've got to have a bigger, a big enough selection. And the thing I loved
about Paradise was that it wasn't a diabolical set of how they go through things like it is on
Gold. Like gross ceremony. Yes. It wasn't, it wasn't so much like that. Now, I'm not going to lie,
I wasn't a big fan of the whole game show thing other than the fact that I did think it was
fun to learn a lot about another person in a couple's thing. So I think,
thought that was really cool.
I, you know, and maybe to some people, the money thing, whatever, that's just not something
that would motivate me.
I really was like, I'm just going to beeline in there.
I'm going to go, do, do, do, to anybody I'm interested in.
If not, I want to go home.
I was like, I rode that horse on the beach.
And I was like, I can go home now because that was everything.
I rode that horse on the beach.
Thank you again.
I mean, just coming in, you know, just coming in on the beach next to the water and all that.
I was like, I've done that.
I can go home now.
All right, wait, before you go home from the beach and get off paradise,
if you were to go again and be honest,
is there anybody from any golden that, you know, obviously not Gary,
obviously not Kim, is there anybody else that you would say,
you know, if I went back, I'd like him to be there?
Well, I used to think, you know, right from the get-go,
I was attracted to Jonathan, but then later I was like,
Yeah, he's Mr. Social Media.
I don't think so, you know, he seemed a little too, you know.
He was a good looking, though.
He's nice guy.
Yeah, beautiful.
And then the other guy in Texas.
The, oh, yeah, I don't know.
But the other guy in Texas, I don't know who he was.
He was kind of a ranch guy.
I thought about him too.
He's got a girlfriend now.
And so.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Michael?
No, he's Florida.
No, you're thinking of David.
David.
He's from Austin.
Faith, he's from Austin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But really, I wasn't thoroughly attracted to any of the guys on those Jones season, honestly.
So, yeah, I just probably.
All new fresh meat.
Yeah, we'd need all new fresh meat.
And I doubt that they will do it again.
And then the other thing is, I'd be a hell of a show, wouldn't it?
I love us all.
But when you're old, you're old, I'm not so sure that us being, you know, half naked and in bathing suits.
is what the public wants to see.
And then when they did the bird thing, I'm like, oh my God, the women, the golden women,
we look like haggard hookers.
And the men, I don't even have words.
They have, they have videos on my mouth.
I was, so my costume for that, I had this, and I grabbed it quickly.
It was a big, huge, like, you know, huge, like a 12-inch brim.
And literally, when those people started walking out, I literally tilted the brim down and just said they.
So every time they put the camera on me, it was my mouth.
Like you couldn't see anything.
You looked like the madam.
And we are like your hangered hookers.
It was terrible.
And then.
Wait, wait a minute.
That could be a career, faith.
It was hard to come back from that.
Like, first of all, the younger ones, oh, my God, they looked so sexy and so beautiful.
They did.
It did.
And so amazing.
And then I look around at the old.
I'm like, I cannot unsee that.
And so at the end of the day, it's like, maybe people our age should stop having sex.
Or maybe you should start having sex with young people, Faith.
Well, but then if we have sex with the younger ones, which I can, you know, I think I'm all over it until I see a young hot guy and then I'm like, but the truth of it is, ew, then they're probably looking at us going, ew.
So.
No, you know what the hot young guys.
No, no, no.
Faith.
Do you know what the hot young guy is thinking when he sees you?
Well, they tell me all the time.
No, you know what he's thinking now?
He's saying, damn, she's hot.
If she just had bigger boobs, she'd be my woman.
Yeah, I think that there is.
Well, April tried, right?
She picked the young ones.
There is something interesting with the younger men, how they want older women.
But I think it's just that they want somebody, they want anyone.
And then they don't really care.
And so if you're available.
But I'm not going there because I have kids that are young and I just, no, that would not happen.
Would you consider moving this?
You know, the golden question that we get all the time and that I think sort of is the downfall of Golden's trying to find love or a committed relationship is because we have children.
We have grandchildren.
We have history.
We have traditions.
And so to pick up for me, I mean, I do it in a heartbeat, but I'm the weirdo.
I meet the right guy.
I'm going wherever he is.
But, you know, Joan doesn't want to move.
Teresa didn't want to move.
Nobody wants to move as a golden.
They say they do until it comes down to it and then they don't want to move.
Do you think that's the straw that makes the camel's back?
Not necessarily, not for me, in a sense.
So, you know, I live about four and a half hours away from Gig Harbor where my kids are on the west side.
You know, I would move there in a heartbeat.
But I have, you know, acreage and not much.
I have an acre.
But I love my little tiny house on my little little.
tiny acre where I could have my horses at home with me and I could have my dogs. I just have a peahen
that had four baby ducklings or chick, you know, so cute. And I'm a country girl. I'm not going to be
happy living in a city. That's just not my thing. I like to be up in the mountains. I want to, you know,
so I feel like I might be a hard sell. So that would be a deal breaker, right? Well, it's not that I wouldn't
move. I just wouldn't move super far away from my city. I don't. I love New York, but I don't want to live there.
Wait, I have a question.
I'm about to show my ignorance here.
Okay.
I saw your thing on Instagram and Facebook about your peahen.
Who fertilized those eggs?
Mr. Peacock.
Where is he?
He's strutting his stuff with all the other peahens right now.
They are apparently not monogamous, and I think there was kind of a, what is it called?
Is that your Peehan?
No, I think they were polyamorous because there was one peacock and two peahens running around.
And then all of a sudden there is a peahen in my barn.
And so there was a lady down the street
and she has a whole bunch of them
and they always scream all the time.
Help, help!
That's what this sounds like.
Anyway, she's got a bunch of peacocks.
So they kind of migraids.
It sounds like me looking for a date.
So they migrated over here.
And then she was perching on my hay
and I noticed an egg one day.
And then I noticed two and then three.
So I called her and said,
your peahens over here.
She's welcome to stay as long as she wants.
So I was feeding her blueberries twice a day.
I brought her mealworms and crickets and water.
I made her a little.
perfect little place and then i've been waiting with baited breath i felt like i was the one pregnant
um and and so then i i've been waiting i'm like it should be any day now and then all of a sudden
you can see it on facebook where um i opened it up and then she stood up and showed me all her babies
so cute so down there's a moment so cute they're down from the hay and they're walking around
in the pastures and just teaching them how to look for food and you know so well they go wait i just
want to just for everyone to have a picture here we have beautiful faith who is describing peahens horse manure
right in the worms worms you know we got blueberries that she's you know peeling for this pea head
we got susan who's like where's the next place she can go shopping and we have kathy yelling help help
where's the day we make a tree like no other well you know it's the things that make me the most happy
You know this about me.
I'm not a shopper.
I hate shopping.
Unless it's for horse stuff.
Unless it's horse stuff.
Well, it's like I almost, there's not a lot I want to do.
I love to play music.
Yeah, I love to play music and I love to ride horses.
I love to re-around animals.
And I just like peace and serenity.
I'm just not.
So why don't you want a farmer?
Why don't you want a guy that rides horses?
I do.
I would love to have a guy that rides horses.
I'm not huge on typical cowboy type behavior.
I'm very much a natural horseman.
So, you know, most of my life, I rode in a dress barefoot and with a halter on a horse.
I don't use heavy bits.
I don't use spurs.
I don't like big equipment.
I work at really having a very kind relationship with my horses to where I don't really
need anything on them, you know, and they want to be with me.
And so cowboys generally, they're into rodeo or roping, and they're like, I'm in a
cowboy that horse. I'm going to show it who's boss. And this is not my thing. I'm like,
oh, brother, you know, there's so much more you can get out of a horse with kindness than anything
else. So my belief system is a little different than a lot of people that ride. Do you find a lot of
people are like you? Do you meet other people? Women for sure. And some men that are very
intellectually brilliant and that are emotionally connected. I find the higher educated men that are
training horses now are doing it with, oh, I mean, they're training them amazingly. And there isn't
one ounce of force or brutality or they actually are giving their horses so much choice and everything.
And it's just so interesting when you get into an animal's mind like that. And when you ask
something with the slightest of request, if you give them space to decide, more times than not,
they will decide to join with you and do what you request. And there's some.
brilliant animals. They're so
brilliant. And
I don't know. It's just the way I choose to do it, but
it's all about the perfect. It seems like you have a perfect
head on your shoulders. You know exactly
what you do want and you don't want.
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Wait, I just want to say one more thing
before we get off the horse thing.
You,
Faith, when I rode with you in Paradise,
you asked me to go riding with you,
and everyone knows I'm definitely a fan of horses.
But I will say, and even in this interview,
your voice, when you are talking about horses,
when you are talking about your passion for animals,
you become someone different.
It's amazing.
And when I was so afraid and you knew how afraid I was,
and the way you talked to me and talk to the animals,
truly like a person and an animal whisper.
I just, I have to say that again,
because you are amazing.
And so now you can whisper great things to me and to the horse.
Now, how are you going to do when you give some golden advice?
Are you ready to, we give these questions and you're ready to jump in and help us answer?
Sure.
All right.
All right.
I'll take the first one.
My name is Kelsey from Kansas City.
My girlfriend recently told me she keeps a running list in her phone of things I've done that upset her.
So she doesn't forget to bring them up later.
I understand wanting to communicate, but it feels strange knowing there's basically a file on
in this healthy conflict resolution,
or would that make anyone else nervous?
What do you think, right?
I think that that's super weird.
And anybody that is keeping track of your imperfections
is probably not somebody you want to be very close to
unless you can say,
hey, can we draw the slate clean for a little bit and start over?
And how about I accept you for who you are?
You accept me for who I am.
And if that doesn't work for us, let's just go our separate ways.
Why would you forget if something upset you that your partner did, you communicate about it?
Yeah.
You don't hold on to it.
I agree with that.
My question is more, she says, is this healthy conflict resolution.
To have conflict resolution, it seems, you deal with the.
conflict and you decide how you're going to resolve that conflict and going forward if if something
like that happens again. So keeping a running list, I don't, maybe someone needs to explain to me,
how is that ever a conflict resolution? That's just so cliche, too, that's so cliche because
they always say women never forget, which we don't, but to keep a running list of it all and not
forgive your partner because, yeah, I don't know. That's just, that seems. Isn't that like the pros and cons,
as people say, write down the pros of this relationship or this person and the cons.
And which balance, where's your balance?
I'm going to go out on a limb.
I think there's more going on here, Kelsey, than you're letting on or that you're even aware of.
Because that may be someone, your partner, your girlfriend may be trying to get out of this relationship or change the dynamic.
and that's the best way she can think to communicate that to you is, you know, some people, some people
will keep lists of things and you did this and you did that.
So eventually you say, you know what, screw it, I'm out of this relationship.
The other person ends it and you don't have to.
Yeah, or perhaps the one person feels inadequate herself.
And so she's keeping a list so she can go.
But yeah, you do this, this, this, this, this, this, this, you know, could be that.
But I think the fact that they're actually dealing about a running list of what seems like fairly insignificant things, because basically at the core, you either like the person or you don't.
You've got a long list of stuff you don't like about them.
What are you doing with them anyway?
That's what I'm saying.
I wonder if there's some kind of insecurity or a need to have somebody, but maybe they're not really well matched.
Maybe they are not really compatible.
but it's somebody, you know, it's the person of the moment, not the person of a lifetime.
And so maybe she's looking for a way out.
I think that maybe.
Keep in mind, you can't change anybody, but if there's some things that a person does that
you're in a relationship with, that you just, it bothers you so bad.
You can communicate about that.
Maybe they can alter.
They can alter.
Be more sensitive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good point.
Yeah.
It's hard because we don't know the full story.
Yeah.
We never know the full story.
Okay.
this next question, I cannot even believe because this is me to a T and I cannot wait for you guys to educate me on this.
Okay, this is from Lauren, but really it's from me.
Lauren's 29. She's from San Diego. Every relationship I've had has ended because someone tells me I'm too independent.
I have my own career, my own friends, and I enjoy spending time alone. I absolutely want a partner, but I
I don't want my entire identity to become someone else's girlfriend. Is there such a thing as
being too independent or have I just been dating insecure men? What do you think, Faith? She's dating
insecure men because usually if a person is confident enough in himself, he's not intimidated by
an independent woman. And I think that I tell this to people all the time, men hate independent
women. And the reason why I, the wrong men hate independent women, the reason why I know this is
because I've had, I have so many guy friends. And they tell me, Faith, it would be hard to date you
because there's nothing you can't do. And I'm like, but I don't want to have to do everything.
It's really nice to have somebody that can do things, you know, but I'm not going to wait around.
So if I need something done and somebody's not going to jump in to do it, I will do it myself.
But I also think that there is a lot of insecure men that they,
have to feel needed and if they can't see the value themselves into what they can provide for you,
then they feel inadequate. But the thing is, is that often, and I've tried to explain this,
it's not that we need you to pay for us or we need you to do work around the place for us. It's not
that we need anything. What I feel like I look for in the altruistic sense of having a
relationship would be the protector of my heart, you know, my safe place to fall, my person that
believes in me, that's there to support me, that gives me the hug at the end of the day and tells
me everything will be okay. You know, like, that's what I'm looking for. So I don't care what job
you have. I don't care if you're strong or weak physically. Gosh, we can hire somebody. You know,
it's not that. It's finding that person that makes you feel at home and that you can fully trust and
and feel secure with and that that cares enough about your feelings and your heart,
that they always will put your best interest first as you would theirs.
And that's really what I'm searching for.
And it doesn't matter so much the list or what those circumstances.
That I learned through relationships and maybe I wasn't great at it, but I learned from it.
Men all say they want an independent woman and they don't.
Yeah, it freaks them out.
But they do need to feel needed and appreciate it.
So, you know, just like we just assume they're going to take out the trash or they're going to,
you got to thank them or acknowledge the lawn looks great.
You know what I mean?
With something that they do when we just, I just took for granted.
That's your part of the job.
I'm scrubbing toilets or what have you.
I just acknowledge what one another does.
And I think that's very helpful.
I think it's important to appreciate each other.
But I also have spent in past relationships a lot of time doing cartwheels to stroke their ego over things that are things that are basic things.
Wow, you took a poop today.
Wow.
I'm so proud.
You wiped it.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like they're not kids, you know, step up to the plate.
Yeah.
I don't want to be your mother, you know.
Okay, but wait, you said something, Faith, earlier.
This has been an ongoing problem for me.
And my buddy, C.K., who continues to be my good friend, always says that to me.
Kathy, it's never going to play well.
Men need to be needed.
And I said, I don't need their money.
I said, but men use money, men who have money, use money as a means of controlling women.
That's my opinion.
C.K.
C.K. says things like, well, you know, we want to spoil you, but we have to know we're in control.
I don't get that.
But I do think...
In control of what?
Everything like that.
I think some of the men I've dated, they've used money as a means to control.
They say they want an independent woman who speaks her mind, who has opinions.
But what I have found is if I don't share their opinion or, oh, I want you to do your thing.
I want you to go play golf with your girlfriends.
Oh, well, not today, because today I need you to do this.
In other words, it's independence on their schedule.
And I wondered, Faith, if that, what you think about that.
I have dated some extremely wealthy men.
And that's the conclusion I came to as well, Kathy.
I don't let any man buy me anything.
I don't want their money.
I don't need more stuff.
I don't want anything unless it's like personally sentimental.
But and that the reason is, and the one, I wish I could remember the exact words,
what do you mean you're going to break up with me?
You would never have to work a day in your life.
I can give you everything.
And I'm like, I'm really happy
if you feel like you're financially successful,
that's wonderful.
But it means nothing to me.
I don't need the things that you apparently need.
I'm happy for you if that's what you do.
But that's not going to make me love you.
All the money in the world is not going to make me love you.
But that's what they find hard to believe
because they found enough women that need or want the money
that when one of us comes along,
it's not saying,
we don't want to have a nice dinner.
Oh, yeah, I can appreciate nice things.
I just don't need them to be happy.
You know, I can appreciate nice things.
And I, yeah, it's great, but I just as soon sit on my porch with my dog and my horse.
I just don't need fancy things, you know.
But I do find that they feel like they can control.
And maybe it's just their way of providing.
And I think it's noble and I think it's great.
I think one of the best gifts that a man, like that a husband can give a wife,
is the opportunity to be home with their children and not have to go three days later to work, right?
So I see the value in financial stability and I appreciate it greatly for those that can do it.
But I also think what has to come with it is the mutual respect for their partner to be able to, you know, be an equal and not have to be taken.
But that's my question.
That's what gets at the heart of it.
At our age, we are most retired.
But even in our situation, you know, Susan and I have our podcasts.
We do stuff.
We have interests.
You have interest.
You sing.
You have your horses.
At what point?
Lauren 29 from San Diego, it doesn't change 29, 39, you know, it's the same issue.
My question is it doesn't change, but how it's, I hate saying this, but life is never equal.
Some days I'm going to give 60% and he's going to get 40%.
the next day I'm going to give 30 and he's going to give 70.
That's worth.
All human, yeah.
We're all human.
But at what point, push always comes to shove, guys.
It does.
It always comes to shove.
And I think that people like us who are, the three of us are, and there's others, you know, Joan,
there's other women from our seasons who are strong, independent women.
And I think that's one of the struggles that we have.
And I personally would love to know the way around it because I can't be anybody other than who I am.
And so.
And I like running my own show.
I don't need anybody to tell me what to do and when.
I don't know, except for what we were on The Bachelor.
I love that.
Just tell me what to do.
Just take care of me.
That was so lovely.
I love this.
Show me where to stand.
But, you know, I think what it comes down to is when partners willingly show cherishing,
behavior to each other.
And cherishing behavior.
They show that they cherish each other,
that they care about each other.
I don't mind.
I waited on my ex-husband, hand and foot.
It was the way I served him.
I did all the cooking. I did all the cleaning.
I did all that just because he was working at the time.
You know, I mean, we both were.
But I mean, I will go to the ends of the earth for the people that I love.
And I don't mind.
Now, that's why I take care of animals and all these things.
But I think when,
I think that the thing that kills kids,
chemistry and your sexual appeal is when the woman gets to the point where she's having to play
mother or, you know, like you're raising a husband. I don't want to have to do that. You know,
I don't want to be your mom. I don't want to, you know, I don't mind doing all the laundry and
everything, but don't make me say, can you put those away? You know, it's like, no, I shouldn't
have to say, can you put away your laundry? I folded it all right there. Can you put it away?
You know, I don't know. I don't have to do that all over again. We paid our dues.
I want an equal.
You do you.
I'll do me.
And yes, we're better at laundry.
We're more multitaskers, if you will.
But they could go put it away, exactly.
And I wonder, too, maybe this not living together would be a better thing.
Maybe there's something to that.
You keep your house.
I'll keep mine.
We'll go to each other's.
Build a bridge between them, you know, just and lock it, you know, every three nights a week.
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such a wonderful life for yourself. You've given, honestly, you live an adventurous life. You live a, you live a
pleasing life to yourself, and I love that.
But before we let you go, do you have any other pieces of advice for anyone listening,
men or women?
Yeah, I do.
I'm wondering if I can articulate it because it's just a fleeting thought.
But it did occur to me when I was watching something on the,
it was a documentary on the Playboy channel.
It was like, I mean, it was not the Playboy channel, but it was about the whole Playboy image.
You know, we all grew up.
And as young girls and women in the era and the generation that we grew up in, we really were groomed to think of ourselves is not worthy of much more than our sexuality and the way we had to look and the way we had to dress.
And I'm like, I'm looking back when, boy, did I contribute to that garbage.
I'm sure I did.
I mean, that's how we're raised.
That's how we're raised.
But I think it's so important right now as a woman to claim, to reclaim, to reclaim.
our personal power and show that we are more than our sexuality and really to be an advocate
for other women in supporting them to be more than that too. And not to pass judgment or whatever.
I mean, I ran around half naked all the time. I don't know. I just, that's the way I was raised.
And I just think, you know, it comes with a self-respect thing that I think I really didn't gain
until I was much, much older. And I'm learning more about it all the time. And I think that's
where the freedom comes to of being this age. It's like, people, people go, well, you're ugly.
And I'm like, well, it's a great thing I'm not trying to impress anyone with my looks.
Because I just simply don't care if you find me ugly or you think I'm wrinkly or like,
yep, this is 64 year old skin that's never seen sunscreen. So, you know, I think there's a real
beauty in it, but I think also what's come with it is a confidence that this is not what we want to be
seen for. We don't care if you think we're not sexually appealing or we've got five extra pounds
and we've got some cellulate on our legs, you know, we don't care anymore what you think.
So, you know, I think there is some freedom in that. And God, I would love it. You know,
I remember a few years back, this guy goes, you're so hot. And I looked at it and I said,
you don't understand. That's a compliment. Like, sorry, it's not a compliment.
being called hot.
And they'll say, hey, sexy.
It's like, oh, it's like, oh, turn off.
It's like what I want to hear is, wow, I love the way your soul shines when you're
doing something that you love, or I love how you love people or your, or I love that
you are intellectually, you know, have an emotional capacity to reach deeper and to feel more
and to understand.
And, you know, I just wish people would see a little bit more past the physical.
So.
But I love, I love the advice of.
women. I agree with everything you just said, by the way, but also women supporting women. Women,
sometimes we are our least best advocates for each other. And you know what? Times are changing.
I know just from my children, my married children. I talked about this on the podcast. Plenty of
times that Christopher does his own laundry. Jessica does hers and the babies, but Chris and he does
the banterm every Saturday. Like that was unheard of here.
Yes, my kids too.
They're Mr.
Mom's.
They are hate to be children.
They really support each other more than.
It'll take time to change.
But a woman is always going to be sexier.
Well, all I can say is women may always be sexier.
I love that in our generation, we still have the power to say to other women, take back your power.
I'm just going to say something.
You all are saying women are sexier.
That's why you're not getting...
I think men are sexy.
I'm sorry, but I find men sexier.
Maybe I want to switch teams.
I don't know.
Maybe you should.
Yeah, no.
I still can really appreciate, you know, the sexiness of a man
and what we love about them so simplistically
is what they are capable of and their strengths
and their capacity for the things that they are good at.
And all they want is you to put your socks
away. That's all things want you to do.
Pick up after yourself. I don't want
to pick up after anybody. I'm anal.
All right. Fadee, where can
everybody follow you because you have so
much wisdom and where can they follow you because
people might want to hear you come sing?
They might want to see your P.m. having
the babies. Where come they
follow you on? You know, I'm
all terrible at social media. I've never
taken too much care or interest in that.
You're on there all the time. I see your
on Facebook. But all I do is throw
because that's the only way I can let people
know about my gigs. So I do that. And then I try to put my horse rides on because it's like
an online photo album. I no longer post anything on my grandchildren because I am paranoid.
But aside from that, I do have a website as long as I keep it. It is thefaithmartin.com,
because I used to have faithmartin.com. Somebody stole it and I never got it back. So the faithmartin.com.
But I do have a Facebook. And but the problem is, is that it's a personal page and they limit your friends to
5,000 so you can follow me, but you can't be my friend. So I often don't see the messages unless I go
in the spam area. I'm on Instagram as Faith S. Martin. But, you know, I don't know how else to follow me.
We have had a blast chatting with you. Thank you so much. I want to catch up with you two,
though. So we're going to have to be online. We need a girls weekend. Yeah, or let's just like,
let's, us three chat online, a Zoom, private Zoom off the show so I can find out what you both are doing.
I would really like to know.
So yes, thank you so much for having me.
I love you both.
It's great to see you.
We love you too, Faith.
It was so nice seeing her and talking to her.
She was well-spoken on so many different subjects about the heart and about life.
Well, wait, first, but I agree.
I want to get into that, but I've got to say,
I think one of the reasons faith is so emotionally,
connected and understands who she is.
You know, she went through a really...
It's in her nature, yeah, and she lives in nature.
You're right.
But also, she went through a really ugly divorce
and then he died and, you know, she...
And her childhood was not...
She had a wild childhood.
She had to go up very quickly.
We really didn't even touch on that, but she had to go...
We talked about that in the mansion.
I think that...
I know she says that she
doesn't want a relationship. I know she says that, you know, she's done with men and dating
and she had her boobs taken off because, you know, she doesn't need them, that kind. I don't believe it.
I still say for all three of us, if the right guy walks into our life, we are going to be hooked.
But you know what? I did admire her wording with what it is at our age now that we want.
the security to come home and share your day with.
You don't need somebody to buy you something,
although it's nice, but you don't need somebody
to pay your bills or, you know, wash your car.
You do it together.
She had a lot of good...
You know what it is?
It's that intimate, and she was,
that's what I think she was talking about.
It's the intimacy, emotional intimacy,
of sharing your thoughts, your fears,
just having a hug, crawling up in bed.
She didn't say these things,
but that's what she was alluding to.
Yes.
Somebody to hear you.
Like if you had a bad day.
Yes.
And not be, you know, because we don't have to be.
I mean, hey, listen, you know, Joe's got Cubs got tomorrow.
Oh, Susie's got softball.
You know, those things are gone out of her life.
Yeah, we don't have to worry about that.
And so I just think that she has a very full life.
I think she's, you know, her horse.
She's content with what she has.
She is content, but I still, I don't know when it, when she was talking
about that new guy because she had called me on the phone and she's literally said to me
Kathy I cannot tell you I can't believe it's happened to me I hope you have this feeling that
I have Gary called me and said that to me that everyone's wishing me well here but I think
every time you're deceived I feel I feel like she felt very well your heart we care about her
we like her so of course people are going to I think I'm saying I'm saying I think faith felt very
deceived by this guy. I think it takes a lot out of her, is what I'm trying to say. That in going back
into the dating pool, it's what I've said to you, in going back in, every time, you know, you get,
you get slashed, you get another, I'm trying to think of a good metaphor, you know, another
lacing. You're like, is this worth it? You're constantly reevaluating, and I think that's where
faith is right now. Not because she said she'd do it all over again, because the experience was
worth it and she enjoyed the ride. It's okay that it's over. I'm sure she had to go through the down
part of it when it ends and make those decisions. However, I feel the same way. I don't regret any of
the relationships that I've had. They've all been beautiful, great. They were, you know, good at one time
until they're not. Yeah. I mean, I think in your case, who knows, I mean, we all make decisions
for ending relationships.
I think in Faith's case,
she was so excited to think,
and I've been in the same place,
you know that,
where you think you've finally met the right person.
I think she's,
I should say disillusioned.
I think she came,
well, the drinking issue, that's like a,
you know, if he's an alcoholic,
I can't believe that you didn't see it earlier on,
but maybe he hid that.
You know, she didn't see him every day or something.
I don't think she did until she moved in with him,
but I can tell you,
Any guy can pass out one night, but when she called me and said she'd moved home, she said it was just getting too much.
It was definitely a drinking.
Well, you know, she is a lovely person, and I think she represents Golden's.
She's just another one of our tribe who has lived a good life and has still a lot of great life left to live.
More wishing of the best?
Absolutely.
Kathy, before we end today.
Okay.
When I say pop culture, what's the first thing that comes to mind?
Pop culture?
Youth.
Youth.
What about you?
I thought music and the style of dress and young, yes, exactly.
Youth.
I mean, that's what pop culture is.
It's what's hot in the moment.
And who determines what's hot in the moment?
It's youth.
So, and I, by the way, I have never been one.
to do well with pop culture.
I just got to say, I, you know,
bads and trends.
Well, no, like, I'm still listen to Ed Shearin, you know.
I hear, like, Lollapalooza.
I think I knew five of the musical acts
that were there this, you know, in there,
when they, in Chicago.
I'll recognize the song, but I can't tell you it is.
You know, I, I'm more, what's the word?
I guess I'm just not into pop culture as much
because it's here today and it's gone tomorrow.
It's like Beanie babies.
Oh, God. They were here for a while.
Damn it, I have a little box of them. They're not worth anything.
Okay, well, this has been a really fabulous episode.
I really enjoyed chatting with faith. I always enjoyed chatting with you.
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And on my new podcast, delivering happiness with Nick Tatoro, I deliver pizza to a new guest.
I've shared a slice with everyone from Seth Rollins.
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You know, I'm always searching for
inspiration and useful tools
to maximize joy. Like when
my friend Henry Winkler offered advice
to aspiring actors,
and really anybody hoping to stand out.
You're not hired just to fill time and space.
You're hired to fill the space with you.
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