Bachelor Happy Hour - Fantasy Suites... and Overnights!

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re recapping Joan’s Fantasy Suites episode of “The Golden Bachelorette”! Between the tears, the tropical views, and a BFF cameo, there is a lot to discuss and we�...��re getting into it all. We talk through Pascal’s shocking departure and what we think is next for Joan’s journey. Who will be the next Golden Bachelor? How will Joan’s love story end? We have all the predictions and more coming your way! Tune in now, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives.
Starting point is 00:00:54 We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.
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Starting point is 00:01:45 Fantasy Suites Overnights Fantasy Suites Overnights Yes Fantasy Suites and Overnights One and the same What did you think overall
Starting point is 00:01:57 I thought it was good I feel like Fantasy Sweets is usually a very juicy episode. I wouldn't say this was that juicy because the physicality of it all kind of stayed out of the picture. Yeah, because we didn't have Teresa there. Do you remember Gary and Teresa's Fantasy Sweets? I do. That was juicy. That was.
Starting point is 00:02:16 That was awesome. And she was in like a little romper. Yeah. And she looked so cute. And they, yeah, I liked. That's when they knew. That's what they knew that this show is going to get renewed. When Gary was going around
Starting point is 00:02:29 Doing all his fantasy suites Yeah Yeah Like this is this is good We got something here Yeah well a little less juicy This season But also
Starting point is 00:02:37 Totally respectable Yeah Joan made the decision To not bring The physical intimacy Into any of her relationship Okay so Well we're obviously
Starting point is 00:02:48 We're going to break down The whole episode But I do want to comment on that Up top Yeah Sure great Wonderful lovely lovely lovely thing to say but if you're going to do that in my opinion just keep it to yourself
Starting point is 00:03:05 because it takes away the fun for us of wondering like did they get freaky yeah yeah like this is like let's not forget this is still reality TV and I want my reality television to be a little messy and when you do that up front like that's essentially what she did was what Zach Shellcross tried to do and yeah and fail immediately failed yeah he failed that which was great great and much more enjoyable as a viewer that he did fail at that task and like I I totally respect her doing that and like if I'm the guy that she picks at the end and I watch that it would make me feel so much more secure so I get it I do get it and it's probably the right decision but selfishly as a viewer I don't need that shit in my world
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah, it's definitely a conversation that could be had in the fantasy suite. Like, once the cameras are gone, just being like, hey, before you try to jump my bones, I'm just letting you know that's not going to happen tonight. Yeah. Or just like opening the floor to like, you know, where the boundaries are at. But let me speculate. But the thing is that she said it because she didn't want us to speculate. You know, she wanted us to know as viewers that like that was her intention. Calculated smart move.
Starting point is 00:04:22 But, yeah. Okay. So where are they? They are in Tahiti. and they are living it up on a cruise ship, which we haven't seen since Gabby and Rachel's season. This is a little different because they're living on the cruise ship, but they're like going out to land and doing things as well.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Who's first up? First up, we have, well, first up, we have a visit from Nancy, who we actually are going to be having as our guest this week for an interview, so stay tuned for that. But I love Nancy. I actually forgot how much I love Nancy because we haven't seen her face in a minute. I keep saying that Nancy is the star of a Nancy Myers movie. She is.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And I watch it and I'm like, damn, like, I think Joan was a great golden bachelorette. But I would have also, like, Nancy, I was always like pro Nancy. I agree. Definitely being her. I wish she would have had, I don't, I feel like she didn't really have a big story when it came to her and Gary. I think it was kind of just like, I don't even really remember it, to be honest. Her and Gary didn't have much going on in terms of. of connection. But I think if they did, she was definitely a contender. Yeah, like, I think if it was a
Starting point is 00:05:33 different golden bachelor that did have a connection with Nancy, she would have really shine on the season. And she is so beautiful. So if there is a golden bachelor in paradise, we'd love to see her on it. I could also see a lot of these guys from Jones season reaching out to Nancy. Yeah. There's a lot of golden women that I hope. get matched up with the golden men. Yeah. We'll see. That's the fun of it.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm waiting for like these like soft launches of the golden relationships. Like what are those even going to look? Do you think they know what a soft launch is? Probably not. Yeah, I think they got people that'll help. I think their kids will help. Their kids will help. Yeah. So yeah, but essentially their conversation was just kind of like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:06:17 like having a friend there to comfort you and be like you deserve, you deserve this. You deserve love. You deserve to be in love, which I'm sure helps. I think so. And what Joan kind of broke down for Nancy, for each guy, her, like, main thing was guy is further along than Joan is, which I think we've kind of seen. Yeah. I personally think that can be detrimental if it's the girl is further along than the guy is. I feel like that dynamic doesn't all usually doesn't play out great. But if the guy is further along than the girl is, there's still potential for the girl to catch up in the dating world.
Starting point is 00:06:56 both on and off the show. Yeah. Well, like, let's example it between you and I. If I was really into you and you were like, this girl is way more into me than I am into him, I don't think, I don't think we would have worked out. Okay. But if you were more into me, I think we still would have had a chance.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Luckily, we were equally into each other, but this is just an example. Okay, so you're saying there's still a chance. Yeah, I'm saying there's still a chance. Because I was going to say, I think guy and chalk are both equally, like I would say they're both more into Joan than she might be into them. Yeah, she's keeping her cards close to her chest, for sure. And then she tells Nancy that Pascal reminds her of her late husband, John, which she said multiple times.
Starting point is 00:07:44 So we do know that and that he's the most guarded one. I don't know if I really have seen him be guarded. But it's definitely been mentioned multiple times. I think I don't know if, I mean, Well, we, okay, so, spoiler, you know, we see that Pascal leaves. Yeah, fake spoiler, I guess. Happens at the end of the episode. But we see that he leaves.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And I don't think it, I think the Garda thing is kind of bullshit. I just really think it's the case of like, he's not, he's just not that into you. 100%. And I think it moved faster than what he was ready for. Yeah. But we can break that down more on his. one-on-one. And then Chalk, she says he's too good to be true, which I feel like is usually a cop-out that the leads say when they're looking for a problem with a relationship, but there
Starting point is 00:08:39 isn't one. Like, I feel like Chalk and Joan haven't really had any actual issues and she doesn't have any major concerns with him. And I feel like when that's the case, the default is like, is it too good to be true? Yeah. And I think that's, I think that's fair at any age. Because I could see people being like, well, you know, at at Jones stage in life, like to, you know, it's probably unimaginable to find someone who is like checks all the boxes and is absolutely perfect. Especially when she feel like she had that already. She's probably like, am I really going to find this twice in my life? But I mean, maybe, Joan, you're lucky. I also am just like, you can find a problem with anyone.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Let's stick a little deeper. I'm sure we could find a concern here. Yeah. Let's look for one. I bet you it's there. You can always find a concern with someone that you're dating. There's never no concern. It's never too good to be true. On paper, emotionally, there's something, there's something in the mix that we can stress ourselves out about and spiral about. Yeah, I don't know what you're saying right now, but yeah. Really? You don't know what I'm saying? No, joking. I'm joking. Never mind. But do you know what I mean? Yeah, I agree. I agree. Not everyone is.
Starting point is 00:09:54 No one is too good to be true. Yeah, not everyone's perfect. Like, there's going to be things that you, like, disagree on or something, or you're like, this is, I can't believe this. Yeah, yeah, or like, you know, this is an ideal and that's my concern. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor. A lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. to stand up for your constituents and there's life after Congress and you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head
Starting point is 00:11:37 held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercoms the podcast. podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. First date we have is Guy. Boat date. Yeah. Pretty similar vibes to the hometown. They're on the water. They're on a boat. They do some snorkeling. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just trying to like really be like, okay. She's saying everything that Joan's saying. is making me feel like she really is enamored and in love with guy.
Starting point is 00:13:02 But when I watch them, something seems to be missing, right? Yeah, I agree. It is feeling and looking like he's more into her than she's into him. But it could also just be that she's torn. She's in love of multiple guys. and she doesn't want to... Like go all in and hurt someone's feelings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:29 100%. Like I said, I think she's holding her cards pretty close to her chest across the board with all three of these relationships. Yeah. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:37 we see that when, you know, Pascal leaves, she was more upset than I think I expected her to be. For sure. So they seem to have a really fun, nice day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It was just nice. It was nice. You know, there wasn't really anything heavy or dramatic or controversial. It was just a really nice day. No. And then at the cocktail portion of it, the dinner portion, she invites him into overnight but tells him like, hey, but we're not going to be intimate.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Yeah. But you think they're like at least like making out? I think they're definitely making out. So this is a makeout session? Yeah. I think they're just chatting and kissing. What do you think? What do you think the, the heavy questions are when they get into that room. Like, how do you see this working outside of here? Yeah. Probably. I mean, I think every, I would love to compare the leads fantasy speed experiences. Like, I feel like every
Starting point is 00:14:40 lead kind of goes in handling it different. Yeah. And I think it also depends on like where their feelings are at for that person and there's like a lot of different factors. But I would assume the conversations are like financial situation he's working but going to be retiring soon like logistically when is he retiring they live on opposite sides of the country ish how are we making that work that's a big problem the living opposite opposite sides of the country three hour time change yeah big big big big deal um but i mean they could also like be by coastal they could do as lake house like his Tahoe place for four months of the year and then new where she she's new jersey she's not new jersey i think she is Maryland Maryland okay but every time I see her I think she's
Starting point is 00:15:32 from like Berkeley where's that California California she looks like a California girl yeah um and then they could do you know like the rest of the year and Maryland like she seems from when we've talked to her she seems open to an unconventional situation where they don't just like pick a place move in together because I think she is aware that she doesn't want to sacrifice her family and she doesn't want to force someone to sacrificing their family. Family is the most important thing to Joan. Family is the most important thing to Joan. Don't forget it. Okay. So this date, this date's fine. It ends. Was there a morning after interview? Did they show them the next morning like waking up cuddling? Like, oh, the night was so good. No, I don't think so either. I was just
Starting point is 00:16:14 like, did I like disassociate? What's going on? Yeah. Leaving this date though, I'm not like I wouldn't be, I guess I wouldn't be shocked either way. Like if she chose guy, I wouldn't be like, I can't believe she chose him. And if she doesn't choose him, like, yeah, I, I could all, that also makes sense. Yeah. Which is probably not a good sign. No, it's probably not. It's probably not a good sign.
Starting point is 00:16:41 But again, what you're saying, like she's saying all the things that like she should be saying. about him at this point, I just don't think, like, we're really seeing that, like, emotion there yet. Yeah. But I think he's all in on her and he's very sweet with her. And I like him. I like them together. I think it's great. Next up we have Chock.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Chalk. Now, Chalk, we see Chalk talking to Jesse Palmer and he's basically like, I'm ready. I'm getting down on one knee. Oh, yeah. I love her. Like, Chalk is, Chock's been all in. I think he's been all in since Disneyland. No, she truly. Chalk has been all in since the teacups.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I think you're right. For sure. I think you're right. He's, he's been smitten since date one. And we said it. Like he wouldn't have come back after his mom passed if he was not pretty like all in on this girl. Yeah, which, which, yeah, I guess also is, I don't want to use that as like being like, oh, that's an advantage to Chalk. But it, it definitely, I think that helped Joan.
Starting point is 00:17:48 be more comfortable with like falling for chalk knowing that like he is really into her no I agree I think I know what you mean by saying it's an advantage I mean the situation of losing his mom was
Starting point is 00:18:03 incredibly tragic and sad but it did strengthen their bond and their relationship and was able they were able to like overcome something together and he was able to lean on her and that definitely builds a bond And, but yeah, Chalk is like kind of the dream in this situation.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Guy is feeling this way too. But, like, Chalk is literally saying that I'm being like, I am marrying this woman. I'm proposing to her. I am all in. Like, he has no hesitation. Like, he doesn't feel like it's too fast. He's like, this is it. But what do we think Joan?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Like, what are we seeing on this date? What do we think Joan? How do we think Joan feels about him? I think she feels really good. She, you know, they were ATVing. It was very fun. She said she feels very safe with him. She feels safe with him.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Joan definitely is looking to live. a certain kind of life after this and she is looking for a partner that also wants to live like an exciting adventurous life okay but i do i do think i do think all three of those guys fit that bill i agree i agree but i admire her for that yeah like she's obviously been very selective through this process because all three of her final three guys kind of fall into that same bracket right where they like are adventurous and they want to travel and they have have you know the freedom and the means to do so yeah but the date goes great i mean they're very smitten with each other chalk is also just like he's gashi and he wears his heart on his
Starting point is 00:19:31 sleeve and i think it brings out the emotion of joan a little bit more than we see with guy their body language is just much it's just there yeah it's just it's just it's just much stronger it seems like yep the body language does feel stronger i feel like yeah we see chalk yeah it is I guess like the word smitten makes sense because like when he's like you could see Chuck like gazing into her eyes and is just kind of like I'm in love. And he's the only one I feel like we really see her like make out with. Like they kind of started like making out a few times. Yeah. Well, I think they all make.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I think they all make out. We just may not see it as well. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Um, they do fantasy sweets. Let me ask you this hypothetical. If she is going to choose.
Starting point is 00:20:18 choose chock or if she is going to choose guy, do you think she does hook up with them? I don't think so. Either do I. I think that's very possible that it's happened in the past where people are like nothing happened and nothing's going to happen where things have gone down because like you'll just never know, you know? And also people have the right to their privacy. We also said that with Zach, we're like, Zach didn't need to come out and be like,
Starting point is 00:20:41 we boned. Yeah. It happened. Like he could have just kept that to himself. Like there was no mics or cameras. No one would have known. Yeah. So I think, I mean, yeah, I think she's standing by it. I feel like she wouldn't have said it. She's giving like she would like they're 60. Like, who cares? Like if they don't want to do something, they're not going to do. And if they want to do something, I feel like they're just going to say it and they're going to do it. Yeah. But I would say after after all, after overnight with overnight with chalk and after watching this date, I feel pretty strongly that they're good. Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, they're in a good place for sure.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And they had the cute little morning after. Yep. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemail Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge.
Starting point is 00:22:34 But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you. get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom. And listen now. There's really no, there's no doubt, like the only, there's no doubt, but I, are in chock, but I will see then seeing her the Pascal day. And she was, she was way more in the Pascal than I thought she was. Me too.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Me too. I was like, oh, wow. She like, and for a while I was like, is the only thing that is kind of pulling her to Pascal, that feeling of familiarity because he reminds her of her husband. Or do you, or is there anything like Pascal's playing a little close to his chest? He's playing a little hard to get. And that makes Joan maybe want him a little more. Because he's the only guy out of these, out of these three, Pascal is the only guy kind
Starting point is 00:24:31 of like, eh, not sure yet. Yeah, but he's still like schmoozing her. That's the, that's where it becomes like she gets a little. And her head, like, is he into me or he isn't? And then it becomes more of a game. Yeah. It's a little psychological. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. Yeah. I know it's fun. Yeah. It's fun to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love you, Pascal. But he. He definitely was freaked out. And she says, like, I hope that it goes great and that he's going to be meeting my family next week.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Like, so she definitely went in with the hopes that I think she was thinking, like, there was a chance. it was going to be him going to next week. And I think that her body language with Pascal is really good. Serena's talking through her burps. No, I'm not. I'm not. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Go ahead. No, you've embarrassed me. No, that was kind of it. Yeah. Don't worry. I talked through my births. I'm not talking to my burps. But, yeah, I mean, yeah, we see him get freaked out.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But I think for Pascal, he is using a lot of excuses. He's guarded. Now we hear that he was in like this past relationship and it just ended a year ago. But for me watching it, it just really seems like. And he kind of confirms that. He's just like not, he says it. Like I'm not here. I'm not there.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah. Like when you're in love, you should feel that spark. He's like a Frenchman. Like I want to like really be swept off my feet. And he's just not getting that. Yeah. And he even said, you know, the date was a lot of like feelings and emotions and it felt like ceremonial. And he was like in his interview, he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like I thought we were
Starting point is 00:26:23 just going to be playing around acting like kids. I have to talk about my feelings. It's like Pascal, like you are on The Bachelor. Like you do like an engagement is right around the corner. Like this can't be fun for forever. But at the same time, I just. think that's where his emotions fell with Joan. Like he just liked to have like a flirty, fun relationship with her. And I feel like the date made him realize like, A, he's not ready. But B,
Starting point is 00:26:48 I just don't think like he had that like strength of feelings for Joan to where he was in love with her. To be honest, I'm surprised there wasn't more guys that were like that. That were like, I like you as a friend. Yeah, or just I would say
Starting point is 00:27:04 unprepared of how fast things move on the show. I think there was probably a lot of guys that felt that way, but they went home. Yeah, I guess. I guess. I guess. I think everyone when you go on the show is a little bit shell-shocked by the pace of it. Yeah, that's why it's always, I guess it's, I guess it's more shocking when when you have people like chalk and guy who are like, yeah, I'm here. That's more shocking to me. Like the chocks and the Dottons of the world that are like week six, like I'm so down to propose to this person.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah. Because I feel like I remember getting to hometowns being like, there's not that much time left here. Like, how did we get here? This moved super fast. But yeah, it's just about being intentional. And I feel like Chalk and Guy are very intentional with their time with her. How do we feel about Jones' reaction to the breakup?
Starting point is 00:28:03 I think she was more upset than I expected her to be. I also think it showed how much she cared for Pascal. I do think there was a good chance that it was going to be chalk in Pascal. Had Pascal been able to kind of let down his walls and commit emotionally to the relationship. I mean, he was pretty direct with her. He basically said, I care about yours and a friend, but I'm not in love with you. And I need that spark and I just don't have it with you. Yeah, no, he was direct.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah. He was direct. You know, it's romanticized a little bit with the French accent. But if that guy talked like me, that was fucking direct. Yeah. Honestly, I think is like kind of the best way to handle a breakup. I think it's the best way too, but it's definitely not easy to hear. Just be kind of dry with me.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Just tell me you don't like me and leave me alone. And I don't want to say like Joan has a big ego bite. No. I don't think that. But I do think there's something about being the lead, being essentially the star and in the, like the main attraction of why everyone's there. So I, I believe, I think it's a little shocking in the moment of like, oh, wait, you're not into, you're not into me. Yeah. Like what?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Like, this is, that's not how this works. I've always wanted a lead because, you know, it happens usually every season someone sends themselves home, you know? And I feel like in earlier on, it's like easier. It's still hard, but it's easier. But like, final three on, like, that's really, you've gotten deep, you know? Yeah. I would love it if Joan was like, I was actually. going to send you home. I'm not into you. I don't feel the spark with you. Like,
Starting point is 00:29:41 they always are so mature about it. Like someone just like freak out and throw it back in their face. For sure. That would have been like if Joe, that's what you would have done. If Joan would have just like, like, it's actually totally fine because I was going to send you home this week. Yeah. If she just like collected her thoughts, kind of just been like, can I have a moment? Walk off. Come back like five minutes later and be like, Pascal, I just want to let you know that like, I just don't see it with us. I would have been unbelievable. That would have been unbelievable. That would have been crazy, though, because he just broke up with her. Yeah, and that he would have been so shocked and she'd have been like, so unfortunately, I can't take you to overnights and you have to go.
Starting point is 00:30:16 No, that's maniac behavior. That's not throwing it back in his face. That would be great. Like, yeah, unfortunately, it's just not you. Unfortunately, it's just not you. I'm going to have to send you home. He's like, well, I just told you I didn't like you. Oh, that.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And if they air both ends of that, that would be so funny. That would be funny. Unfortunately, Joan is a little too mature and a little too sane to act that way. Yeah. It's unfortunate. But, yeah, you could tell Pascal felt really badly. I mean, he said, I've hurt her and I feel terrible about that. Honestly, Pascal is giving, like, diva energy in this moment in the best way.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like, he's, like, shoving cameras, like, get these out of my face. Like, hugging Joan, like, shielding her face. Like, don't look at us. Like, tucking her away. I've just broken this woman's heart. Give her a second. Give her a second. Like, it's just giving, like, diva energy.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And I love it. Do you know how difficult this is for her? She's in a fur coat. Like, they're on a boat. like it's sexy it was good it was a really good it was a good breakup scene as much as i was sad for joan i don't think pascal was like her one and only so there's still hope that you know she's going to be able to find love with chalk and guy so like we can kind of we can enjoy the drama of it all yeah so yeah i mean that that's that's that's Pascal's gone and it's basically i miss him already
Starting point is 00:31:30 yeah i know i wouldn't hate he's so great i wouldn't hate him as the golden bachelor i wouldn't hate it. Not at all. Not at all. I wouldn't hate it at all. Especially if he's going to act like this. Like, great. A hundred percent. So we need to bring back a little drama. Yeah. This season was so good, but it was very drama free, which, you know, it's a wholesome season with it being golden men and women. I mean, it's not going to stay like that, you know, first golden, first golden bachelorette. It's, it's going to get some people who want to, who want to fight, who want to shove the cameras out of their face. It's up. Get a real housewife in there.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah. Get some more French people because honestly Pascal was a treat. The French version. Yeah. So Guy or Chalk. Guy or Chalk, who are you thinking? I mean, she seems a little torn up in the trailer. There's going to be tears.
Starting point is 00:32:30 What do you think? I mean. I mean, so we... Do you think she's going to get engaged? Because I feel like she hasn't talked at all about engagement. She's talked a lot about finding someone and falling in love. But I haven't really heard her talk about engagement at all. Well, if she's going to get engaged, I would think it would be to Chalk.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Because Chalk is ready for an engagement. If she doesn't... Chalk is like calling Neil Lane being like, bring the rings. I'm getting down on one knee as soon as possible. We don't know how ready guy is. And he's, you know, we see... He's all in. I just don't know if he's like...
Starting point is 00:33:03 Engage. Yeah, and we also seen like his, you know, when he had his hometowns, he was taught, they talked about how he was hurt and yada, yada, yada. So he may not be ready to do that. Oh, and these guys also still have to meet Jones family. Yeah. I forget that could play a big part. Like, I mean, if the kids have like a big issue with one of the guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I actually didn't think about that. Yeah. That's very true. Yeah. Like if they come in, it feels like chalk is maybe like a step ahead of guy right now for sure. But if the kids come in and are like, we're not into that dude and we love guy, that could very well sway things. I mean, you can't like not take your kids into consideration. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And we know that Joan does do that. Yeah. She's big on family. It's all about family. Yeah. So that could definitely, that could definitely be a factor. Do you think either of these guys? guys could be the next golden bachelor.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Shock. Yeah? You don't think Guy could be? No. I kind of want like promos of Guy and like a white ER coat and like a stepscope. Yeah. I mean, I could definitely see that. He'll catch it if he makes your heart skip a beat.
Starting point is 00:34:22 My problem with Guy is he's a little hard to read. He is harder to read. And I don't. And so is Joan, which is I feel like why we're having a hard. harder time like unpacking their relationship than chalk and joan yeah chalk is very easy to read he's very direct exactly and i think for for the lead especially the bachelor i think you want them to be easy to read and i think you want to see them fall from multiple people um i don't need you to be you know before you step into overnights telling the world that nothing's going to go down and like
Starting point is 00:34:55 this is what how this is actually this really pissed you up we can't have a lead that's not going to sleep It's not about that. It's not about that. Just don't talk about it. Just don't want to know. You know, it's a surprise. Yeah, yeah. It's a surprise. But yeah, we'll see. We'll see what ends up happening. We'll see what ends up happening with these two at the end. Yep. And we have Menthal all next week. So be sure to tune into that.
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