Bachelor Happy Hour - Fire, Ice, and Everything Nice

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re getting into last night’s episode of “The Golden Bachelorette”! We kick off a little differently with a special bonus interview with Charles L.! Charles gives us his final thoughts looking back on his journey and has some special words for his Bachelor Nation fans! Then, we dive into this week’s emotional episode. The men truly bared it all and the connections are really heating up. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

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I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are back to recap episode four. But before we do, we had, it was honest, it may have been the best Monday of all time. I know. Bachelor Mondays are always a highlight in our day to day. But I think that this Monday took the cake. Yeah, having a wedding.

So this past Monday, we were at Noah and Abigail's wedding in Tulsa, which the venue itself was one of the nicest wedding venues I think I've ever been. I agree. It was a perfect venue, perfect weather. And for those of you who may not know, Abigail and Noah met on season seven of Bachelor in Paradise, which is the same season that Joe and myself met on. and they have been together for a little over three years and have finally gotten married. We were so happy to be there. There was lots of Bachelor Nation, friends and family in the mix.

Yeah, it was nice seeing everyone. Ivan was there, DeMar, Becca and Thomas. Yep, Anna and Chris. Blake Moynes. Chelsea, Serena C. I think that's it. And if we missed anyone, we're so sorry. Yeah, we're sorry, but I'm sure we all hung out.

I think that's everyone, though. Yeah, it was a great group. And we did three days of activities. We were able to go see their house, which if you follow them on Instagram, they have worked so hard on to remodel, redecorate. And they're super proud of it. It was so beautiful and so exciting to see. Yeah, Thomas just, he really just kept admiring me the whole time. But that's a whole other thing.

Okay. Before we do get into this recap, we had such a great conversation with Charles. And we see that he does go home. So we're going to bring him on real quick to have a quick little chat with Charles before we get into the episode. Yeah, we know how much you guys love Charles. We love him too. We were sad to see him go and his journey end. But we just want to touch base with him and see how he's feeling after his journey on the show is over.

We hope this isn't the last we see of him. But we hope that you guys enjoy catching up with Charles. All right. Let's bring him in. Charles, thanks for coming back. Thank you. Thank you, Serena. Yeah.

so Charles were were you shocked to get sent home no no no no why not I sensed it as you as I explained to you before I have the data yeah I have the data why because I look around it and I assessed and to be honest it's just between this time or the next session it's it's it's but it's getting closer. I knew I was doing the right thing. Were you sad that your time on the show was coming to an end? Yeah, in the sense, it is. But on the other hand, you know, we, the cast members, you know, we support each other, but we don't compete each other in the sense. We are happy to see, as you know, at the end, Joan can only pick one gentleman, as you know that. And then will be very happy whoever she's going to pick.

And I kind of sensed I'm not that one of the few final ones. Whatever you believe or not, you know, that's my, my data tells me. Do you think you've built a friendship with Joan after all said and done? Oh, yes, yes. You know, I don't know how much details on the show. So if you compare the first time I met Joan and the first time I drank, you know, tea with her to the end, you know, when she hugged that I didn't receive the rose. Actually, yeah, we had a boundary and we liked each other.

But as you know, like each other is one thing. To love each other is another thing. So I'm kind of, you know, happy for Joan. You know, she continues her journey to find that, you know, the best one. really loves you know so even though we don't know yet but um i'm happy for her and i'm happy for the lucky one you know in the end if if you charles can give joan a piece of advice when you left what would it be um go with your own decision you know follow your heart and don't hesitate don't be you know kind of confused because a lot of you know uh a lot of you know uh

a gorgeous man in front of her, but she can only pick one. And don't hesitate and follow her heart. Yeah. Charles, we have you back here today because people are so sad that you won't be on the show anymore. You were such a star. Were you expecting this outpour of love for you? Or was this a surprise? It is a surprise.

You know, as you know, I hear lots of fans. fantastic fans. You know, I love them and I thank them for the support. Of course, they want to, I guess they want to see me continue and continue. Yeah, they want more Charles. Yeah, but the reality is the reality, you know. At a certain time, unfortunately, you know, there's a one guy out there. It seems like probably Joan loves more than to Charles. So it's okay, you know. But my part, it's a little bit the, you know, sad feeling as well, you know.

Do you think you would be ever be able to do what Joan did, be in her position, and let's just say it was 30 women? In Charles? I haven't thought about it yet, but if that opportunity

rises, why not? Okay, I like that, I like that, Charles. Leaving the show, what is your favorite memory or takeaway lesson? You know, the kind of, you know, the way Joan talks things, she's very quick and smart. You know, I really give her credit on that. You know, she has to deal with 24 men at the very beginning.

I don't know how she remembers all the information that she's talking about or she's going to talk after. So that's one thing. Second is the brotherhood, you know, we built in the mansion and around the mansion, you know, during the even group days, yeah. How do you think, how do you think this show after all said and done is going to impact your life moving forward? Oh, of course, you know, first of all, I think it's a big jump in the sense, as you know. So at the very beginning, I was still sad in a sense. And after joining the program, I opened up myself.

I expressed my sorrows. And my cast members kind of, you know, encouraged me and pat my shoulder, say, Charles, it's okay. You know, we know it's sad. But it's also okay to move on, you know, when opportunity knocks, you know, on my door. that kind of feeling and the excitement I had during the show as well. Well, you are single. You did not end up with Joan. Are you dating? What are you looking for when it comes to women? This is a million dollar question. You know, first of all, I'm traveling. I focus on travel at this moment. But when I return back to the States, I have to check.

certain accounts to assess the information and messages and hopefully I will summarize and some data and I will make a kind of very quick decision what I should do next I like hey Charles's got to check the DMs I like I like that Charles that's good anywhere else on your on your on your travel list that you're going that's fun that you could tell us yes you know yeah talking about the travel plans. Yeah, I'll return to L.A. for another program, I think, called Mentel All. And I'll be very, very happy to see my cast members and friends all of again. Yeah, I look forward to that. Do you and the guys have any plans for after that? You guys going to do like a big dinner or go out

or anything like that? Maybe go have some beers. Well, in the mansion, we joke about whoever got married will all go there. So that's the first thing. You know, I hope I'll get an answer all around that time, you know, if that really is going to happen. Second, of course, you know, we'll hug, we'll love, maybe also with tears, you know, because we miss each other, yeah. Do you guys, you know, you're in Los Angeles, you're pretty close to Las Vegas. Would you guys maybe go do like a Vegas trip? Oh, yeah, we're not. You know, we would love to have.

Yeah, we were even, you know, thinking about to a little island, you know, nearby. Yeah, if that happens, that'd be great. Well, if you guys go to Vegas, Joe is going to want you to invite him. So keep that in mind. Charles, thank you so much for hopping back on and just watching you go through your journey and, you know, the impact that had on you, but also your impact on others, I think it's really lifted a lot of people and just brought some happiness into the world. So we really appreciate you and everything you've done. Thank you. And please tell, you know, the fans there, you know, Charles missed them and Charles wanted to thank them for their love and support. I will. And any, any single ladies,

you're going to, you're going to be entered into Charles's spreadsheet and he's going to. He's going to figure it out. He's going to assess the situation. Charles, thank you again so much. Charles L. What a gem. I mean, we're going to get to see him at Men Tell All, but so happy for him to come on. I know. I'm so happy we have Mental All to kind of reunite with all the men. But I think it's time we get into our episode four recap. Let's do it. So first group date, we've got, I feel like this is kind of becoming like a Bachelor Nation favorite date. Like it's similar to the shopping date. The striptees date. This is, you know, the second or third time we've seen it in a few seasons is always a good time. Always fun for the lead, I feel like, too,

to just get to sit and watch and it's flirty and it's energetic. And we've got Caitlin Bristow. What were you saying? Bristow. Bristow. Caitlin Bristow. We've got KV.

Caitlin Bristow making a cameo hosting this date. She's always really good at these. She's really good at hosting dates on The Bachelor. Like I never get sick of her doing these. Yeah. And they are teaming up with stand-up to cancer to bear it all to your doctor when it comes to your health. Yeah. And you can see all the guys were very, they were very excited to do it for stand-up for cancer.

Yeah, I feel like their enthusiasm when they found out they were going to be doing like a Chippendale stripper date was pretty low. Understandably, you know, they're like 60. They're like, I don't know if I want to get up on stage and strip down. See, that's where I think you're wrong. low key they really wanted to and then they heard it was for cancer and they're like okay now I won't even feel embarrassed about it now I can really go all in really

that's what I think well the the partnering with cancer I think is very fitting too because Joan along with a lot of the men lost their spouses to cancer so we love we love a cause we love a good cause who were your standouts when it came to the dancing

well I mean I think Jonathan he the guy's just in great shape. So, and he was like, he actually looked like a stripper. I feel like he was like, I was shocked when he said he hadn't done it before. When they called out the, the older Chippendell guys, Jonathan could have been one of those guys. The older Chippendale guys look great too.

But that's what I'm saying. Like, Jonathan, in my opinion, I think would have, could have fit in with those guys. Yeah, he was really good. He was definitely a standout. I also thought that Gary did a really good job. He kind of like, I think he was wearing like some sort of like professor costume. Ripped off his shirt. Ripped his shirt open.

Chalk said something really nice just that like he wasn't super comfortable but the day wasn't about him. It was about doing something for others. And I thought that was really sweet. I thought that was a good message to kind of ring throughout the episode of doing something for other people, even when you feel all uncomfortable. yeah and you also kind of you like you have to say something you know yeah you have to like you have to do something like you can't just be nobody likes the person that just doesn't want to be there and doesn't give it a hundred percent effort that's why i would that's why i would be so bad at this because i would really fight against doing it or trying and then people would be like well we all gave it 100

percent and this asshole gave it 50 percent yeah you you know what it would be so interesting to see you go on the bachelorette and make it further because you never had to do group dates yeah and you had a hard time with one-on-one date activities when we were on the bachelor in paradise yeah yeah i don't think yeah i can't imagine you like on a group date no i'm too much i'm too much of a baby and i'm just to be like, no, I don't want to do this. So, yeah, I'm one of those people. I'm the worst. But, like, overall, yeah, I think it was a fun date.

And I think, I think a lot of the guys were moving better than Joan even expect it. And it was a lot of fun. I agree. Another standout has to be Keith. Because he just showed not only so much enthusiasm for the activity. He has been a lifelong dreamer. wanted to be a Chippendale dancer, which... He also stuck his head in between her legs.

Yeah, so that's going to stand out for sure. That was funny. That was funny, just like... Caitlin's reaction. Seeing him and then see Caitlin's reaction. I was like, what is exactly going on? But I thought it was so fun. I love that he got into it.

Yeah, yeah. And he was, like, living his best life up there. And honestly, Caitlin's reaction made all of the dancing so much funnier. Because she was just shocked by everything that was happening. Yeah. And then your guy, Chalk, he, he bared it all. Chalk bared at all.

I feel like he was one of the people that was on the more uncomfortable side. Like, if we're on a scale, like Jonathan and Keith were the most comfortable. And then I would say Chalk was maybe the least comfortable with the activity. But you could tell Chesot, he's a successful businessman. Yeah. I think a very successful businessman. And usually, like, those guys, doesn't matter, like, how uncomfortable they are. are he gets it done and he gets it done and he does it well yeah yeah he's like I might not

like this but I'm still going to show up and get an A plus plus for it yeah and that's why I'm envious of him because if I would be like all right I'm just going to get it done too but I wouldn't pull it off and that's a difference chalk did pull it off he pulled it off he crushed it he showed up in his businessman suit he shook his ass yeah and then we see we dance up on Joan 10 of the 10. Yeah. Okay. If you had to give out a group date rose just on performance alone from the Chippendale's Barrett

All Date, who would get your rose? My rose would solely go to the same person every week. And that would be Pascal because I find him so funny every time he talks. I barely remember Pascal on that stage. Yeah, no, he did. He moved. He has abs and everything. Oh, yeah, yeah.

No, I do remember because he was like, I go to the gym, I'm going to show off my bud. Pascal's the oldest guy in the house and the guy is ripped. He looks amazing. He is ripped. He's in great shape. No, no, I do. I take it back. I do remember Pascal. I don't know who I'm going to give it to. I mean, Mark was great. Chalk was great. I'm going to give it to Gary.

I just like Gary. And I feel like we see a lot of his interviews and his conversations with Joan, but I feel like we saw more of his personality on this date and just him being. silly and you know I like that that's fair also thought it was great that they ended off the date with making a donation to the charity I feel like it's got a great message it touches home with Joan and a lot of the other contestants as well as probably a lot of people watching so yeah you know if you're going to strip do it for a good cause yeah I love that I could see a lot of them continuing this work because so many of them were affected by it and honestly they had so much fun

doing it that I could see after the show a lot of these guys doing that. Yeah, well, shout out to Stand Up to Cancer. If you guys are loving the state as much as we are and you feel compelled to either donate or get involved with Stand Up to Cancer in any way, it's a great cause, and you can find more information online at bachelornation.com. Great. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking. for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well,

he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, the can-do mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out.

Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with my. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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Okay, the night portion of the state, Joe talks about Joan talks about John, her late husband, being diagnosed with cancer and what that experience was like finding out on Valentine's Day. And I feel like the standout on this night portion was really Mark for obvious reasons. I mean, his wife passed away due to cancer as well. And they were really able to kind of connect over that. And I feel like he was able to just relate to her and be like just someone to lean on when it comes to her grieving process and what it means to be searching for love again after you've lost your spouse. Yeah, it has to be like with such a horrible situation. has to be nice to find someone that you can relate to and and just be able to talk to about it. And Mark is like that guy. Like you could tell like he is like a girl dad and he

listens and he's just like he's just like a genuinely nice person. Not to compare Joey Kelsey's fiancee and Mark Kelsey's dad right now. But they're very. Very. similar. They are two men that we've seen on this show that are so good at both listening to what someone is saying and what they're going through and giving like the opposite of just like a generic response like a really thoughtful compassionate response like both sharing their own experience but also like validing their feelings like giving them advice if that's what they're looking for like just very emotionally in tune when it's. comes to these more in-depth conversations.

Yeah, good for Kelsey. Kelsey, I'm sure, is great at it, too. I just feel like, like, Joey and Mark have both really exemplified that quality. Definitely, definitely. Okay, let's jump over to after this group day. We don't, no one gets a rose this date. She doesn't give out a group date, Rose. I feel like all the conversations we see she has are great.

We see her talk to chalk and the date went well. and the night went well, we see chalk at the mansion on the phone. And I feel like he had mentioned when he was talking to Joan, like, oh, I'm going to get to talk to my mom soon. So I kind of thought that that's where maybe that was going. But he finds out that his mom sadly passed away very early that morning. It sounds like she was with family or loved ones. And it was a carer. taker that was on the phone with him, letting him know what had happened. Yeah, like Joan said, I mean, it's never, it's never easy. It doesn't matter what age you are to hear that.

Your mother passed. So, um, feel bad, so bad for Chalk. And she understood that like he had to leave. And we don't know as, as viewers, like we see at the end of the episode, he comes back. But if viewers, we don't know if he's just gone for good. And it kind of seems a very similar, similar way. a very similar situation to when Joan had to leave Gary's season. But the difference here.

So when Joan left Gary's season, I was like, oh, Gary seems to really be into her. I think she likes him. But when Chalk left. It was also only week three where we're now at week four. Yeah. And Chalk leaving, I was like. And Chalk had like the first one-on-one. Yeah.

And this was the first one. time i was like oh they're they really like each other like the the feelings are mutual it doesn't seem like once more into the other like they actually seem to be going places so then in my head i'm like oh i actually i you know i hope he comes back yeah well i remember we kind of felt that way but joan too was we were wondering if maybe in like a week or two she would show back up because it felt like she was going to go home to support her daughter and then there was a chance that that she returned just because her and Gary did seem to have a really strong connection. And obviously that never happened.

But chalk leaving, yeah, I didn't know if he was going to come back or not. I mean, I know he said the passing of his mom wasn't a surprise. He didn't come out of nowhere. He was aware when he left that she was declining. They just, obviously, you never have any idea really how rapidly that's going to happen. So not a shock, but obviously still devastating news. so he went home to kind of help his family be with his family prepare any arrangements that need to be made

I don't know how long exactly he was gone for probably probably a few days but I will say like he seems like a very sincere man and him coming back also just kind of shows us how real this experience is for him and how much he really likes Joan because think about it

you know if he left i'm sure if he was at that into joan i'm sure when he got home he would have probably come to that realization so for him coming back to me it's like okay they might end up together no i totally agree in the sense of like if i'm him like i'm only hauling my ass back to the mansion if i'm really into the person or like it's going somewhere Like maybe I don't know if she's the one yet or if I'm the strongest connection there. But like there's got to at least be some serious potential and reassurance if I'm going to leave my family in this time of loss and grieving to go back on television after I've just lost my mom to continue dating this woman. Like truly if it was not going on between them, like I don't think he would have come back. And then from Jones point of view, it's got to put him.

like so much I don't want to like further ahead than the other guys because like this guy came back so now she knows she knows that he really likes her which is probably just going to help her her feelings just move quicker. Yeah it's reassuring for her to see that he has

kind of put what's going on in his personal life on hold for the time being to continue this journey and pursuing her. which I think is very romantic and I think it intensifies their relationship and probably makes their feelings stronger. I also would take him a lot more seriously if I was Joan or if I yeah if I was Joan because I'm going to look at him and be like okay like he's really put his life on hold to be here. Yeah and now you know their conversations are going to be more in depth and a little more heavier because of something like this. Yeah and they are also probably some I bonded

through it in the way that she has supported him and been there for him in a time of grief, which I think connects people. Yeah. So I'm curious to see where that relationship goes because it's definitely just due to this incident surpassed probably quite a few people in the house. I agree. I agree. But we do have a few one-on-one dates this episode.

Some quicky one-on-ones. We got Jordan, who I really like. Jordan. I've liked him the whole time. He seems great. I like Jordan too. And I think she really likes him. I do think so too. I think that they have a connection for sure. We're at the point of the season now where I'm looking at the rest of the guys that are here and Jordan being one of them be like, okay, this is all starting to make sense. Like you feel like the front runners are falling into place? Yes. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Because like I think at the beginning of every season, there's just so much going on that you don't really even get to fully understand or see how

the lead actually feels about these people. Like you see it in bits and pieces, but now we're starting to see it just in longer segments. And I'm like, okay, like Joan talking to Jordan, I'm like, okay, I'm buying into that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I agree. You're just seeing longer clips of them connecting. And you're starting to get a taste of like where the relationships are at. I feel like the first few weeks is just like you said, like snippets of conversations and now you're like, oh her and Jordan are actually

they really like each other. Like this could potentially get serious. I think a big thing for for Joan and I would assume for a lot of these guys too is going to be about like are you willing to move? Where do you live? Can we

can we have a long term long distance relationship? I think that's going to play a big part too in her decision. Yeah. It's so interesting because I feel like the conversation on Bachelor and Bachelorette is always like, do you want kids? Can you move with your job? What are your goals in the future? Like, how do you see the next five, 10 years of your life playing out? Do you want a family? And the conversations when it comes to like deal breakers here are always the same but different. Yeah. It's like still about family and it's still about location and still somewhat about work if they're still working, but just

jump it like 50 years ahead. Yeah, definitely. But Jordan was a really good sport. I cannot believe he ended up on a date that's a skating date when he does know how to skate. That's actually really nerve-wracking, I feel like. Oh, I don't think so. I actually think it's, I actually think it plays to your benefit. Really?

Why? Yeah, because it's, you can make fun of yourself. It's not like, not everyone, it's not like walk, you know, it's like every, not everyone knows how to skate. So you could have fun with it. You can play with it, especially if she knows how to skate. That's true. And you know what? I think it speaks to his personality being able to laugh at himself and not take it so

seriously and get like mad and embarrassed that he doesn't know what he's doing. Like that makes it more fun. And I also think it makes him stand out a little bit because she looks at him as being like a very athletic guy and probably good at most things. So then to see him like out of his element. Out of his element. Yeah, you just see like another side of him that you just learn more. and if you learn more, you end up liking them more, you know? I agree.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics.

On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned,

Sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. And then the second one-on-wide date we have is Guy. um he's on a cooking baking date they kind of connect on like how family dinners are really important

and how she has kind of started this tradition of sunday night dinners at her place did you grow up with family dinners what was your family dinner vibe uh my grandmother my norwegian grandmother who was married to an italian who was married to an italian i did italian sunday dinners every sunday until i was like I want to say they kind of stopped once I, probably after eighth grade, at least I dipped out after eighth grade. You stopped going after eighth grade. I'm actually surprised you made it that long. You know what, guys, I'm out.

I'm a freshman now. I actually remember after your grandmother passed one of your aunts message and said that she was going to host a Sunday dinner on your grandma's in your grandma's honor. Sure. What do you mean? Sure. That did happen. We just don't live there. so we didn't go.

But yeah, no, she made the best the best meatballs. But I do, I believe in that. Like, I think having like a family dinner once a week is really nice. Yeah. My parents were always pretty big on sitting down and having dinner together. Yeah. They were like, even if like sometimes it's in front of the TV, like just sitting down and eating

a meal together. Well, I think it's very important to have dinner, like a sit down dinner every night. Like I think you should take. Yeah, you should definitely eat past lunch. Listen, Serena, my point is I believe that you should always have like a nice, I think it's important to have a nice dinner every night. I think rushing dinner is a mistake. Why?

Because life's short and it's like, it's like just make it nice. You can have, you know, nice dinner. I'm not saying you have to go out to a nice restaurant, but you can have a nice dinner at home. We do take dinner pretty seriously. We always sit down and have a nice dinner. Yeah. So, yeah, Guy and Joan. Okay, so Guy was one of my final four guys.

Mm-hmm. I like him. I don't know what I'm seeing between those two. Yeah, I agree. I can't tell yet. Because I like Guy, and I think that they get a long while. But I don't know if I saw, like, like, the chemistry when they were like cooking together and but I don't know maybe it's like more

of a friendship that well yeah but that's that's kind of what I'm getting yeah I'm getting more more friendship vibes yeah I don't know if it's feeling overly romantic she just doesn't seem as giddy around him yeah and I think around some of the other guys and guy I remember really stood out because they really liked his his limo entrance and I saw that I thought like it seemed Like, so that spark that I thought that I saw night one, I don't necessarily see anymore. Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that. Yeah. But I like him and I liked the date.

I thought the cooking date was cute. Yeah. And like, we could definitely be wrong. Yeah, of course. You can always be wrong. This is just, we're just speculating. Okay, let's go to the Rose Saravodey slash cartel party. I think the big event of this is obviously chalk comes back.

Yep. Um, which we basically touched on when we talked about him, um, but I, but like, yeah, I don't know. To me, it's, it's, it's like, it's giving charity and Totten like mid-season. We also, we also just saw a lot of chalk and Jones relationship this episode. Like, way more than we have in any other episode. And also just like way more we've seen like, I would say at this point just from this episode, we've seen chalk and Joe more than any other couple. Yeah. Um, so. I don't know if that will like change as the episodes go on and we see her with like Jordan more and some of the other guys. But I will say out of all the one on one so far this season, the one that I remember is Chalks.

Oh, actually, no. I also remember Pascal's. But there is just there's a difference between how I think she feels about Pascal and how I think she feels about Chalk. Well, yeah, that's for sure. But another standout I would say is Keith. and her conversation just I feel like they had such a strong start and he was just one of the people that came in very confident and very natural and they bonded over loving the beach and they were playing games and it was so fun and he just totally panicked in this episode like he was like tripping over his words I was like what is happening I've never seen someone go into

like anxious panic mode like week four well you know what I think. What? And I think I'm pretty right on this. Keith is a social butterfly. He's seems to be, you could just tell. He's one of those guys that he's just great in a crowd. He's great around a lot of people.

He's personal. He's charismatic. He knows how to, how to work the crowd. And I think like somebody like Keith shines. night one when there's everyone's there it's hectic there's a lot going on and there's like not a lot to lose I guess yeah and then you put him in a situation that he hasn't he's not used to at all or at least it's probably been a while to where he set up like a romantic picnic date for a woman and I think he just realized how vulnerable he felt in that moment and then I think he got in his head and I think

it was just straight panic I think you yeah you nailed it and that that's what I think happened That's why I'm like, yeah, it's like, because we, like you said, you never really see that like week four. Yeah. But I just think it was just because he hasn't been in that situation. We're only seeing him on group dates. That's true. You know, you're seeing him in the crowd and he's probably, and he's a guy's guy. You could tell, like, I think all those things that I think was like in the moment, like he panicked.

But the good thing is she didn't send him home. She didn't send him home, yeah, which I would have been. surprised if she did because he was I thought she was sending him home because of that. I mean, the only thing I was wondering is he definitely put himself out there to kind of make a romantic moment that just seemed to fall through. And I don't know if I felt like she was maybe

like maybe he felt like she wasn't reciprocating those romantic feelings that he was trying to put out there and that was also feeding into the anxiety. Like he's another one where I feel like loved him from the beginning, literally. really in the beginning, I was like, oh, my God, like, she could totally end up with this guy. And now I'm wondering if they've fallen into more friendship than romance. But I could also just be going off this one incident where the date just kind of didn't really hit.

Yeah, it's just, it's just, I just feel like at this point of the season, if a date doesn't hit. It's not great. It's not great. I like Keith. I like him, too. We will see. But we say goodbye to some favorites. I mean, the guys are so great.

It's at this part getting really hard to say goodbye to them. But the four people that were sent home were Gary Dan, Charles, and Gill. Gary, I feel like really... What was the second name you said? Gary Dan. Oh, Dan. Who, Dan, we had on our podcast. Yeah, Dan's such a nice guy.

We loved Dan. He has a wild story. Yeah. So, we sad to see him go. And Gary... I don't think I know if I ever really felt. it from Joan for Gary but I felt like Gary was really emotionally

invested in the relationship and really putting his heart out there for Joan. He was also just like a good energy. High energy guy like to me the guys that went home now are going to affect the other guys in the house so much

more like the vibe like losing Gary and Charles is a huge hit for like the vibes in the house like for the group more out because like Charles is out here teaching Tai Chi in the morning by the pool Gary's out here ripping his shirt off during the stripper date

making everyone laugh like he just seems like he's a total dude a total bro you're losing big personalities and this is the time in the show where now everyone's like okay it's getting serious

why my hair again could because yeah definitely I think that's what's happening and it's just like less and less guys to do Pascal's laundry and make his food too. We also do see in the teaser. I can't wait to see, but it looks like Pascal gets involved in some shit too. Yeah. Well, we will have to stay tuned to see how that plays out next week. And you guys will have to stay tuned to listen to our interview with Mark coming up.

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