Bachelor Happy Hour - Former Bachelorette JoJo Fletcher Stops By

Episode Date: October 6, 2020

JoJo Fletcher joins Rachel and Becca to discuss her short stint filling in for Chris Harrison during the upcoming season of “The Bachelorette,” and reveals why it wasn’t as easy as it looks. Also, JoJo shares what it was like watching her season back with Jordan during “The Bachelor: The Greatest Seasons—Ever.” Plus, she offers some great advice on purchasing your first home! Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back to another episode of Bachelor Happy Hour, and we are drum roll, officially one week away from the heavily anticipated premiere of The Bachelorette, and I cannot wait. We are so excited. And as you know, last week, we took a little break from our Bachelorette series to introduce all of the men that you will be seen heading into Claire's season. And we had so much fun doing that, but we have to get back to our girls because we have not only one of our favorites, but also one of the most requested guests on our podcast today. We are having Ms. Jojo Fletcher on and she's always a great time. I always just love chatting with her. She's so inspiring. So we're super pumped to have her before the premiere because she has some pretty exciting news to share with everyone. Yeah, I'm really happy to have Jojo come on because, you know, I feel like there's so much.

much more to her that people like people know that she does the home stuff you know she's got her foot in that they know that she's got this great relationship with jordan but there's a lot of depth to jojo that i feel like we're privy to that other people don't get to see from her because she's pretty private you know she doesn't really do podcasts so we're very lucky to have her on she doesn't really have her toe in bachelor world but we'll come in as a guest from time to time but she really does her own thing in her personal life so if you do you do you do it. follow Jojo. You know this girl is always busy. We love to see a girl booked and busy and that is Jojo. She has so many incredible projects, but we know that her bread and butter is in the

home space. Her and her fiance are the king and queen of flipping houses and all the subject of houses and moving and designing. Becca, I thought it would be great if, you know, we could give our listeners a little update on our lives. As you guys may or may not know, and I know you know because I see you in our DMs. I see them in my DMs, so I know they're in yours, Becca. We see you guys in our comments. You know we've made it no secret that we've both recently moved to L.A. And we're getting a lot of questions about it.

And so rather than let you create your own narrative, we're going to tell you how it is. Because one thing Becca and I are always going to give you on this podcast is honesty, even when it's really difficult. And so we're going to start that right now with our L.A. experience. So, Becca, why did you decide to move to L.A.? Well, thank you for asking, Rachel. Contrary to what people like to say that I just went to L.A. for fame, because that is so far from it.

For me personally, it was a very last-minute decision. I obviously was going through a breakup. I was back in Minnesota spending time with my friends and family, and there was a hot second. in there where, you know, it was comfortable. It felt normal. I grew up there. I was like, oh, maybe I'll buy a house in Minnesota. But then there was still this, like, underlying thing that I still wanted California. I didn't want to spend another winter in Minnesota. I still wanted to be in the sunshine. So, uh, it actually happened because I was face-timing with a friend. And, uh, she was just like, move to L.A. Just do it. Like, it's calling your name. You know,

you don't have anything holding you back right now. And so that night, I got off the phone with her, I looked, I went on like Redfin or Zillow or whatever app I was using, found a furnished apartment and signed a lease that night, didn't tell anyone. And so then the next day or in a couple days I was with some of my friends and family, and I was like, oh, by the way, I'm moving to L.A. in a couple of weeks. So it wasn't very thought out It was very spur of the moment But it was so smart because I will say this I The first time I ever came to California

Was right before I came on the show a couple years ago And I fell in love with it I loved the warmth I loved the fact that you could really do anything in the state You could go to the ocean You could have the mountains You have the vineyards, you have the cities And I just fell in love with it

And so when Garrett and I first got off the show And we're trying to figure out where we were going to live at that point, we threw L.A. into the mix, but he didn't want that. And so now I'm like, well, I'm finally on my own and I'm going to do it for myself. And it's the best decision I think I've ever made besides getting Minow. It's the second best decision. Okay, I'm getting Mariah Carey Butterfly vibes hearing you talk. Spread your wings and prepare to fly. You can be. Maybe it's because her book just came out today. I don't know. But I'm getting butterfly vibes here. for you, girl. I mean, very similar to you. I had the, I came to L.A., not the first time,

but I came to L.A. right for a baby shower. One of my best friends who's been out here for years and I came for a baby shower right before, a month before I went to a bachelor audition. And I remember being there and I was like, gosh, I can't describe the feeling that I have here, but it's such a vibe. I feel very connected to the city and I'm going to come back here at some point. And I thought I would move there, take a bar, and practice law out in California. Well, then Bats are happening and all of that. And it's something Brian and I have talked about. We actually looked for property here three years ago right when we finished the show.

And it just didn't work out because I am very, like, everything has to be put together and everything has to be perfect. I'm very type A. And so I thought I cannot come to L.A. until it makes financial sense for me to be out here. But an opportunity came about where it afforded me the chance to be out in L.A. And then COVID happened. And I ended up still getting a place out here and then extra happened, which I thought I was just going to do special correspondent work.

And then they offered me a full-time position. And so I already had a place out here because I was going to go back and forth. And thankfully, I had the support of Brian who was like, go, this is what you've been working for the last few years. And we just were like, okay, we're going to put pin to paper, write a plan out for ourselves. So yes, you guys, we have a plan. We have goals. And it's not anybody else's timeline. Like, it's so funny how people are like, oh, my goodness, you don't, you move to L.A.

And he lives there. And I'm like, people in the Army live separate from each other. Like people who are consultants have to travel all the time. It's not ideal, but it's not abnormal that sometimes you have to do a. bi-coastal thing. But as long as you have a strong foundation and you're committed to each other and you have a plan, Mike, this is definitely not how we want to live forever. Well, I'm glad that you bring that up because prior to us, you know, airing this and recording, you mentioned that people are still sliding in your DMs thinking like, oh my gosh, should you and Brian break up what's going on?

And, you know, it's like, we all experience these weird DMs and like this sort of invasion of privacy in different ways. Obviously, I got it because I was going through a breakup. but you are in a happy, committed relationship. And I'm glad that you said other people do long distance for a certain amount of time. Like the military, you know, my cousins who are in the military have been married 10 years and they've probably spent half that time together because they can't be together and you make it work. But if you have those goals in mind and if he is supportive and vice versa, you can make it work.

And so I think it's great that you have Brian. And you know what, to be honest, sometimes people need a loan time. Like you need to get settled here. find your groove here and that's okay. Yeah, and I'll be honest, it's hard. I'm not going to lie. You spend six months quarantine with someone. It is difficult to change that up. I mean, it's like such a stark contrast to what we had before. But I think what's important for people to understand is that I'm not chasing something. I'm trying to build something for our family that we're trying to create. And that's all people really need to know. Like, I get it. We're in the

public eye. You met us on television. You followed our love journey on television. So there's certain things that you want to know. And I think in some respect, you deserve to know. But we're not going to tell you everything. And I think that it's just important. Don't push your narrative on us. Give us an opportunity to talk to you guys about it. I think that's the beauty of podcasting. We can have these open conversations and you feel like you're sitting at the table with us while we're have in our little girl chats. And that's why, like, when people, there's two types of people I've noticed in my DMs or in my comments, the ones who care to know and care to ask the questions.

And then there are the people who assume they already know and they're already casting their judgments on you. And so the prior option is ones that we can deal with because if we feel like you want to have that conversation, you're open to learning, you want to ask us and we'll reply with honesty, but it's when you have the people who are like, oh, well, she moved there, so they must have broken up, or Rachel's there. You know, it's just, it's a lot of hearsay. So I'm glad that we can do this now. Well, Becca, I think we answered what the, I was going to ask you what the best and worst

part of moving is, but I think we pretty much answered it. I think the best part is that we have a chance to be creative and to start fresh and new and build something. And the worst part is just other people, you know, putting their own opinions on us when they don't really understand what it is that we're doing so yeah yeah i would say playing off of what you just said the best part is moving to this new city having a new chapter it feels magical here and the fact that i not only have you and now andy's here and kailants here we have so many of the the bachelorette's and other friends too from the show that that's something that i i love i would say so far it's the best part the worst is just sometimes living alone you really have to learn some new things and you know i was

used to living with Garrett for two years and he would help me out with a lot of stuff. So now it's just doing it on my own. But there's a special sense of like independence that comes with that that I'm really embracing and enjoying. Even though I do get frustrated. Sometimes I'm like, oh, I can't carry all these boxes and like put in a lock on my door. But I'm trying to embrace it and look at the positive of it. So yeah. So we can't keep talking about LA. I mean, please keep writing to us because we will keep answering your questions. But right now we have to get to one of our most favorite girls. So if there's anyone who's going to have some sound advice for moving, designing, and living your best life, it is going to be Jojo Fletcher. So without further ado,

we are welcoming the DIY, I'd say that five times fast. We're welcoming the DIY queen and Bachelorette Royalty Jojo. But welcome, Jojo. This is your first time on our podcast. It's my first time. I'm here. Hi. And let it be known. Wait, let it be known. Jojo never really podcast. So this is a treat this i think i've done like one podcast in my life and was it beckas was it scrubbing it yeah i feel so honored yep i know this is a true thing so thank you thank you so oh my god so it's only because i love you guys well you are like one of the busiest women that i know so i'm so excited to finally have you on uh jojo did uh say that she almost didn't make it

because she was at a park with her cute little nephew. So I'm glad that you made it. I'm here. But we have to start. We've been talking about Puerto Rico. You are there now. Get us cut up on your life. How have you been?

Oh, my gosh. So good. Yeah, we're in Puerto Rico right now. We've been here for like a couple months, which is crazy. My brothers live here. We always come here to vacation. And Drew and I were like, you know what? Why don't we go down and spend some time here?

It was in the middle of obviously COVID. We're not doing anything else. We can't really be doing anything. So we came down here. And we actually found a property. that we purchase, that we're going to start renovating. So now we have a second home, and it's just super fun. I'm like an islander now.

I'm living the island life. You are. Listen, maybe we should start a community out there. If you find a second home that you're going to flip, I'm just going to start flipping them. Maybe a third, three for one. Actually, no, we're not flipping this home. We're going to keep it.

We're renovating it. We're going to live in it. We're down here. So we're so, so excited about it. But I do have to work on my Spanish. That's what I have learned. We got you, girl. We got you. We got you. We'll barter for services here. Brian and I will come down. You give us a room. And Brian can help you with your Spanish for sure. And me. And me. Because I'm a deal. Can I come down and be like the honorary caretaker of the dogs? You guys can come down for no reason other than just coming down hanging out too, you know. You don't have to offer your services, but I'll take it.

But you know what? Jojo, it's so true about being on the island because we went to Aruba for. for our one year. And maybe these are just adult conversations you started having when you get older. But Brian and I were like asking how much property is down there and how like where the different communities were. And like part of our time there was touring around. Yeah.

And saying if we could buy a place there. So like I get it. There's something about the island life that. It is. And it's just so nice that like my brothers are here. Like my, I have a nephew. My brother's first kid and I've missed him so much. So I've gone to spend so much more time with him.

and like I was just at the park with him and I hopped on my golf cart because I was like shoot I have 10 minutes till this podcast just golf carted back to my rental so it's like such a fun way of living too it's like it's amazing we love it and it's the perfect time I mean let's be honest everything is shut down it's the best time to be stuck on an island for sure wait side note did you guys hear about the couple they were on their honeymoon in the Maldives and they got stuck like when the quarantine first started they were stuck on in the Maldives and then they had no to go fund me because they weren't quite sure how they were going to afford it like after the two weeks but yeah oh because of COVID stuff like they got stuck there I think they were the only people at the resort so the resort was like waiting on them hand and foot it was yes they had they had everyone that worked they were the only ones they were everyone else left before that and it's like you literally had your own private island it's like castaway except fancy and I and no Wilson yeah the only thing that would make me want to go home as if my dogs are with me, but I have my dogs with me, and I'm like, I am good.

Yeah. You're a living dream right now. I watch you on your Insta stories, and I'm like, oh, I wish I wouldn't teleport myself there. Be honest. Did you go out there because you were trying to run away from your season being on the greatest season. Like, wow. You know what? No, we were actually in Dallas when that aired, and that was such a funny thing for us because

Jordan had never seen it. And I felt like I got the past. Like, I feel like a lot of couples go through that thing. and it sometimes it ends up in an argument or a disagreement, whatever it is. And I was like, oh, I don't even have to deal with that. Then the second time they aired it, he loved it. He was like rooting for all the other guys and like, this is weird, but I kind of like it. Like, you're fun.

I love it. I remember looking at that and I'm like, see, that's when you know you've reached a certain level because it's like growth, maturity, those little things don't bother you. Someone literally asked me the other day, is it hard when your significant other has to watch your season back and I said yes because you can tell them every single detail and it's totally different when they watch it and their friends and their family are watching it

and they're questioning things so it's so great that like both times were a win for you yeah for sure I mean they said the time the only time you watch it was four years later so that probably helped you know so but yeah it was so much fun watching it back yeah well and it's good it's like and we I feel like we've always had the bacheloretts on it

it's a fun walk down memory lane and at this point you know a few years removed there's not that weird awkward i feel like everyone for the most part gets along with totally their exes and i'm sure jordan got along with most of the dudes so it's yeah i can't imagine that like having to relive that a little bit um well speaking of seasons we obviously saw yours but are you excited for the upcoming season and what news can you share with us about it oh listen i've gone the rundown on what news i can and can't share I didn't really know. So just throw that out the window and be free, girl.

Be an islander. Yeah. You were all of the dirt. Yes. I'm so excited about this upcoming season. I had a chance to go down there and visit and help Chris out. So I kind of jumped into some craziness, which I wish I could tell you about. But it was, it's going to be a very.

I don't want to say dramatic, and it's always, you know, but a very unexpected season with a lot of strange, unusual things happening. Me stepping in for Chris for a short period of time, which is very unusual. But it was a lot of fun, and I'm super excited to see how it all plays out. I think it'll be good. I mean, if people haven't seen a lot of the rumors out there, there was so much circulating during filming. I mean, fun side note, all three of us make a quick little appearance on it. for different reasons, but it was so funny being there, because, or not Rachel, sorry, Jojo, you texted me.

I think you texted me the day I was leaving. You just got there. So you were in quarantine. I was already done filming. I just hosted a date. And we were joking, because I was reading the spoilers. I'm like, wait, did Jojo? Like, did Chris Harrison leave?

Because I just saw him last night. What's going on? Jojo's taking over. And then there's like all these rumors about other people as the new Bacheloretts and like Hannah, like all these people were there. So no one quite knows. what's going to go down. So I think it'll be a very professional. It's funny too because when I got the call that said, hey, you know, Chris has to take a son to college and he needs some help with some

of these things. Can you come in and do it? I was like, 100%. That sounds so fun. And when I came, they didn't tell me anything. Like I, I had no clue what I was even walking into. Not a clue. So I show up. I meet with Chris and he gives me the rundown. I'm like, you're leaving. even me with this. All right. Here goes nothing. Is that on camera when he was breaking it down for you? No.

Which I wish it would have been. Like your reaction would have been classic. Like, you are you sure you have to leave? I, what I love the most is when the rumor mail goes crazy, so does our bachelorette chat. So everybody's like, Chahue, what's going on?

You okay, girl? Oh my God. It's all good. I love it because I was like, I love that if he had to step away, the fact that they brought in a woman to be a part of the Bachelorette season, I think is pretty awesome. Jojo, I have to know this because I'm sure everyone's going to ask. So obviously, Chris is Chris and he has his one-liners. He has his mannerisms. He has the, okay, ladies or gentlemen, the final rose of the night.

Did you pull, like, did you channel him when you were hosting for him? What was it like walking in his shoes? Okay, I have so much to say about this. You know, anytime I've been on the show, whether it's as a contestant or as a lead or if I've come back to do like guest stuff, it's always just, there's no rules. You say whatever you want, you do whatever want, you act how you are. And that's great. When you're given the role and the job of filling in for Chris and he's the greatest of all time. and he is so phenomenal at his job and those one-liners and just delivering things.

I was so stressed out about just not, I was just so stressed about not living up to his expectation. You know, he trusted me to like do this. But the amazing thing was is that I wasn't going to come in there and try to be Chris. You know, I was just coming in to help him out. And so there were like scenarios where I had to actually deliver a message that wasn't just Jojo being stupid and saying, never never the chris harrison lines though you'll never hear me say this is the final rose i don't think i don't i'm pretty sure we've never said that unless i know so it was super fun super stressful so exciting i hope i um hope i did everyone sort of proud but it's hard it's hard

he doesn't he does such a good job at what he does that you can never compare to him you know what i mean and that's not what the goal was yeah but i think that's an interesting perspective because a lot of people think, oh my gosh, it's so easy what this person does or Chris Harrison in this instance. And it's like when you actually get there, it's like actually it's not. There's an art to this and he's perfected it. 100%. And I remember texting him because he even said to me, he's like, oh, you're going to be great. He's like, nothing I do is that hard. And so I was like, okay, you're right. You make it look super easy. And I remember after my first go at doing something, I sent him a text. I was like, this is not.

that easy. Like, you totally like downplayed it. And it's just like it's because he's perfected that art. He's so good at he's just good, man. And it is. It's such a simple thing, but there is an art to delivering things and getting messages across. And so yeah. But I, playing off of what Rachel said of bringing in a woman, you are just, you have the spirit about you that I think you're going to make it your own, even though yes, you were feeling in for him for a bit as the host. But it's going to be fun to watch. And I think it'll be fun for viewers to have a little break in the middle, switch things up a little bit. I have to know, though, because when I think of Chris throughout, like my time, you know, while I was on The Bachelor, one of many, and then as the

lead, he does such a good job of not only formatting the show and laying things out and delivering messages, but he's also there as a confidant and sometimes a therapist when you needed. Did you have to play that role for The Bachelor and any of the men? I did get to do that with who was still on the show um and that was probably my my most favorite thing you know because it was a way that i could relate um because i've been in that sort of scenario and i had you know i've gone through that experience but that was my my most favorite thing about the whole thing and that part i wasn't stressed about at all which is amazing yeah because you are just can just be you and share your experience with them i think that's cool that you got to do that so jojo like the the world has

been going through a lot obviously in so many different ways there's so much sadness and sickness and suffering going on for various reasons but like the world is going through things but personally people have been going through them as well and so for you unfortunately i know you had to push back your wedding date and i want to know what's that been like for you because i feel like there are a lot of our listeners or even maybe they know someone who's struggling with that same thing totally yeah i mean To be honest, when the whole COVID thing started, I'll be honest, when I first heard about it, I was like, no way it's going to make it to hear. No way we're going to be actually affected by it.

Then when it came here and we were seeing people getting affected by it, I thought, no way it'll last this long. You know, no way we'll have to postpone our wedding. So we actually waited till, you know, as long as we could until we realized, okay, no, this isn't going anywhere. This is a real thing. And we had to make the difficult decision to either postpone or just have a really small, intimate wedding just him and I and close family because at that point you know our family was very

concerned and we weren't even spending time with our moms and our dads and so it was one of those things we talked about and to us and for me like this is a moment I we both have waited for for so long and every person that's on our guest list is so special to us and so important to us that it wouldn't be the same to me to not have them there and so I think both joy and I agreed on that and we said listen we waited four years already waiting another year is not going to kill us. It's okay. We'd rather wait and everyone feel safe and comfortable and confident to travel and not

be worried or weird. And so it was a no-brainer decision for us. And I bummed, of course, I'd be married right now and life would probably be, you know, a little different. Actually, I don't know if it'd be different. I mean, who knows? I'm telling you, it's great because you're like, it's official and you're married and get like some more jewelry on your hand.

But when it's real, you feel exactly the same. Like you're a little bit more giddy, you know, but it's honestly, you're right. When you've spent this long together, you've lived together. And that was our thing too. It's like not much probably will change. So yes, we were bum, but it was the right decision. And I know it was so hard for so many other people that had to make that decision. We got super lucky in the fact that like our vendors have been amazing.

And we haven't had any really bad scenarios where we are out a bunch of money or this didn't happen or this didn't work. Our venue can't take this at this time. So we've gotten really lucky with that. But now we're just waiting another year. So it'll actually, this is funny. So, oh, wait, maybe I shouldn't say this because then it'll give away. We haven't said the exact date that we're getting married yet for next year. But it just going to ruin it.

Never mind. Texas after. I'm intrigued. I know. I was the same to you after. It's really not that big. We are getting married May of next year, though. So it'll be right around our five-year anniversary.

Oh, that's so nice. Which is crazy. Yeah, I can't believe it's been five years. That is crazy to think about because I remember watching your season and I feel like it was just a couple years ago. Like that it's time flies. I need to ask this and I'm sure everyone else is probably wondering because I like your style, your aesthetic, the way you envision things is so beautiful. And so have you, did you go into the initial wedding planning process with a vision in mind? And is it. And is it? that's still just the same or has it changed now that you have more time to kind of re-replan everything, revamp it? That's a good question. I feel like I get that question a lot, but I haven't really like, I feel like I always had like some answer for it, but when I really think about it, I don't think, I think I had this idea of what I wanted it to feel like and not necessarily know what it looked like. It was when we were looking at our venues.

Like there was one venue that was one way and there was a venue that was another way. And I saw two different, completely different weddings. I did each one of those venues. So I think when it came down to what venue we ended up loving, my whole aesthetic sort of just came to life and the idea started flowing. And so I had this somewhat idea. But for me, most importantly, I just want my wedding and that weekend. I want it to be so filled with love.

And I want people to have an experience for themselves. I want them to walk away from that. And obviously be excited that they got to see us married, but be like, wow, that was a really incredible weekend. and I won't forget that for the rest of my life. And so we really want to make sure it's something that our guests who are taking their time and their money and, you know, all this to come to our wedding. We wanted to be memorable for them. So I have no clue what that is all going to come together and look like a year from now.

I thought I did and I think that we're going to stick to it, but things can change. I don't know what new things I'm going to see or new dresses I'm going to see and I don't know what's going to change. So we'll see. Do you have a dress picked out? Yes. Okay, you guys, this is the part. And Rachel, maybe you can speak to this, but you have to choose your dress months and months in advance anyway,

so it takes a long time to get it altered and whatnot. So when I chose my dress, it was like nine months before when the wedding or 10 months before when the wedding was supposed to be this year. Now I'm fast-forwarding a whole, it's basically a year and a half from when I chose this dress, like, I'm telling you, I keep seeing new things and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm screwed. You got to start looking. Well, I can't help it.

Instagram's so good at targeting me. It just targets me. It knows. It knows that I'm thinking about it. So I always see new things. I'm like, I've followed so many different bridal accounts for this reason. And they still find me. Just do the grand.

Just do the grand outfit change. I already have two dresses. I'm already doing that. Just making a weekend wedding, so you can wear all of them. So I have to ask because you have a thousand and a million and one thing's going on. You obviously filled in for Chris Harrison. You are planning a wedding and maybe getting potentially a third wedding dress. Who knows?

But you are a busy girl. So what are some other projects that you have going on right now? Well, you know, obviously my real estate stuff is stuff that I continue to do. So we are working on a new build project in Dallas right now. at the same time we just got this remodeling here in Puerto Rico so I'm still working on all of my remodels and my renovations because that's something that I will do for the rest of my life and I love but I recently actually just launched and this is so big for me just launched my own home decor line with Etsy as a collaboration and it was just like the coolest thing ever to be able to do

something that I'm so passionate about and with the Etsy team and the Etsy makers it's really cool And so that just launched. I'm super excited because I get to do a fall collection with them, too. So that's been keeping me busy. That and my dog and Jordan and life. But everything's really good. That's a lot. That's definitely a lot.

So maybe this is a selfish question that I'm going to ask, but I feel like our listeners are going to appreciate this well. So I appreciate this as well. But what is some advice that you have for first time home buyers? Because I, I, I still rent, but like now we're in, first of all, Brian and I just try to figure out where are we going to plant roots. Yeah. And that's been the biggest deal for us. And then, then we're like, okay, we can actually buy a home there. So we would be first time home buyers. And I'm sure

there are a lot of other people who are trying to figure that out now. So what's some great advice? Well, I remember the first home that I ever bought on my own. And it was the first home that I was ever going to renovate. And I actually, I, it wasn't a success story. I actually lost money on it and it didn't end up going well for me for a few reasons other than a few reasons. And it was made, the most, the biggest one I would say is I didn't do my like due diligence.

I didn't know enough about the location, which I would say location is like the biggest thing when I go to buy a home, whether it's for an investment or for myself personally because you want your properties to appreciate and you want to know that if you do sell it, you're not going to lose money. So I would always just tell first-time homebuyers, look at really good locations, look at the area, look at the comp, and pick a place that you know you're not going to lose money in whether that means it's growing and you see more new builds happening. But just be smart with your money. Really know about your finances too. Don't just jump into something.

Really know your numbers and break it down and look at your worst-case scenario. I do this when it comes to renovations. If I feel 100% comfortable about my worst-case scenario, If everything was to go to shit and I have my little, like, security bank of money that I'm going to use. If I'm okay, comfortable with that all going to hell, then it was a good purchase. I love that. I might need to have you help me because I've been dabbling with the idea of buying out in L.A. So I might need to have you come out here and help out.

It's like, it's kind of scary when you buy your first home because it's a lot of money. Like that's a lot of money. That's a huge purchase. I think it's so smart. I think if you're able to do it, that's such a great way to park your money and it's your own home and you're not wasting money on rent. But I get white people rent. You know what I mean? So it just has to fit within your lifestyle and your means.

You have to just feel really comfortable with it. I think it's scary too because I don't know, I don't know if you feel this Becca, but like for the first time, I'm like, do I, do I have enough money? Like, does it make, like, I don't think I could ever make enough money to think that I was okay to buy a home. I was literally having this conversation with someone the other day. Is it better do you think to like start from the ground up? Because like, okay, for Becca and I are in L.A. For example, so the land is more worth more than anything. So is it better to like flip?

Is it better to just buy something that's already there? And like I don't I don't know. Honestly, it just depends because sometimes a lot of people think that a remodel or renovation is going to be less expensive, but that's not always the case because sometimes you get into these scenarios where they create more problems than just starting from scratch. And so it real, and that's why I go back to you really need to do your homework and you're studying your due diligence before you buy any property. Because if you're going to go in and you think you're going to renovate this house, you're like, oh, I just need to fix the floors and put it in,

you know, some fresh paint, there could be way bigger issues. It could be plumbing, electrical foundation and those add up so quickly. Um, so I think it was just like, It depends. If you can find a steal of a lot that's like a really good deal and you find a good contractor and that might be the best route. I just love renovations though. I don't know what. And Jordan's more of the new build guy.

We're doing a new build project right now and it's our first one. That's not for us personally. So I'm actually kind of excited to see how that plays out because that's going to be our first sort of development that's not a remodel. Was Jordan always into it or like once he got with you, he was like, hey, babe, I kind of like this. So Jordan, no, I mean, like being in the real estate development world is never or something he ever thought he would do. However, he was always really interested in like tinkering with things.

He liked to build little things in his backyard with his brother. They would go to the wood shop. So he's always some tinkering. And so when we got together, I actually had purchased a house right before I went on to The Bachelorette and I didn't have time to work on it. So right after we got together, we came back home. And it was literally, I think, three days after we got home. I said, I have a project.

You're coming with me, brought him in. And he just went to town. It was amazing. He just, like, soaked it all in and started ripping stuff off the wall. He was like the best free labor ever. And now I just take him with me every time I go. You know what, Jojo? I need to pit myself up because I want to learn certain tricks of this trade to know how to do it

on my own. And so I might just hop along whenever you guys need help. Put me to work. I don't have big muscles, but I'll try my damnedest. I honestly, like I didn't, I didn't go to school for this. I was a biology major. I was pre-med. I took the M-CAD. Yeah, like I was going to medical school, got in. And it wasn't until right before that I decided this is not for me. My whole family. I'm a family full of nurses and doctors. And that's just what I always thought. I was supposed to do. And I just knew that unless I was super passionate about it, that I would burn out so quickly and I wouldn't even make it through medical school.

I think I lost that. Smart girl. Smart girl. But then it left me with a biology degree and nowhere to go with that. You know what I mean? There's not really much you can do with the biology degree unless I wanted to go be a teacher, but I didn't like biology. Like that was my problem.

I studied it, but I didn't like it. Um, so I just told myself, listen, I like the idea of real estate. I don't have my real estate license either. I just kind of bought my first property. So I got a loan and found a builder and just started and that's, that's how I started. And so I started in Waco on Baylor's campus because I was living there at the time. It was my senior year. I bet you bought property for a good price too. Oh, girl. And Waco? It was so cheap back then. But now Chip and Joanna against, I've blown it up. But going back to what you were saying, I didn't know anything about it.

You know what I mean? I just started doing it. And then anytime I had a question, I would just YouTube it or I would look it up or I'd buy books. And then I found a contractor that I just didn't know who he was. I sent him an email. I said, can I follow you? Can I just go to your projects with you and just watch and like see how you talk to your

crew and see how you do these things? And so that's kind of how I learned. And I still won't know all the ins and outs of construction, but I know what I like. I know what I need to look out for. And I have a vision, I think, for things. But it's like you just teach yourself. Like, anyone can do it.

You don't even have to know. I don't know if anybody can do it. You got to give yourself more credit than that. Because, Jojo, that's super inspiring. Oh, I didn't know. You need to hear this. Jojo, I was saying, this is so inspiring. Like, this, you need to give yourself more credit.

Not everybody can do this. That's a really inspiring story to hear. hear how you started literally like grassroots ground up like you know what i mean like shadowing other people you really need to write a how to book or even tell your story put the put the no i'm i'm i'm dead serious like that's hella inspiring and i never knew that about you thank you thank you and i still have a lot to learn too which i there's no we all do you know what i mean but the fact that you you would take it upon yourself to research, to reach out to a contractor to say, hi, can I just follow you and job shadow you? I don't think, I mean, I think there are people

out there that have that mentality if it's something that they really want to go for, but a lot of people, too, just try to take the easy route. So, and especially as what, you were a senior in college. Well, at that point, I had graduated. And so I was, like, right out of college and trying to figure out, like, first off, how I'm going to make money. So while I was doing this, I got into medical sales, because I at least knew I had a medical background and so I did medical sales for a while and that's how I was able to like pay my bills and do all that but then I just tried to keep learning and then at the point of when I went on to the bachelor that's when I quit the medical sales job and I just said when I come back I'm going

to be full real estate because it's something that I'd been doing and I was way more passionate about it and loved it how many homes now total have you built or flipped and worked on oh um who i'd like one few three four five oh my gosh eight nine ten and i'll think we're like right around 16 yeah oh my gosh how many has you done before you went on the show oh before i went on to the bachelor yeah like we're at oh i'd only done two that's crazy that's so you have like a full you have an empire now you've like a full team. Like, your go-to contract? I wish I had a team, which is I'm still the, I'm still the landlord for my college Baylor-Waco property, which is really funny now, by the way.

I totally forgot about this. Jojo, I was on a flight. It was two years ago. It was right after I got off of the show. And there was a man on my flight who I think you flipped one of his rental properties somewhere in Texas. I do not remember. It was for your show. Oh, gosh, I'm totally... But it was in Texas? It was in Texas. And it was a smaller home.

It wasn't a big job. He made it, at least from what he made it seem like. But he recognized me because I literally just, like, my season finished airing. And Garrett and I were on a flight together. And he's like, wait, how do I know you guys? Are you on a show? He's like, do you know Jojo? And I was like, yes.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Small world. But, but yeah, it was... Small world. I saw it on your show and it was awesome. I just don't remember his name. So, sorry.

Was it in Austin or Dallas? Do you know? I think it was Dallas. We did two in Dallas, one in Grandbury. We did a warehouse in Dallas. That was a big project. Yeah, wasn't a warehouse. Anyways, we'll figure it out.

Okay, yeah. But that's how, like, you're all over the place. It's crazy. 16 houses, I mean, who, I texted you when I was looking a few months ago, and I picked your brain asking, should we flip a house? and, you know, pay less up front and put more into it. But then I was like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing. So I got way too nervous for that idea.

Yeah. No, I get that. I'm always nervous. I know exactly who I'm coming to. Get ready. Rachel and I are going to get you out here, Josie. You are going to help us. You guys, it would be a dream to be able to do something in LA.

It is so expensive. I know. You're talking to the girl from Minnesota here. Like, miss. Well, that's why it's harder to buy there. That's the thing, you know what I mean? It's like, and Rachel, you know, like Dallas prices versus L.A. prices are night and day, but it's like, and Florida. I mean, are you, where are you?

Are you still in Florida, Rage, too? No, well, I'm mainly here now because the work is here, like, throughout the week. So back and forth when I can, but COVID, it's like I have to quarantine if I get on a plane. So Brian has to make the trips back and forth here. Okay. I have questions. I've been. I love that she flipped it. So I've been here three weeks now, and I'm not going to lie, it's similar to what you were saying when you came back on the show. And, you know,

when you were so out of touch when you had to do the ITMs, because before we were just like machines, so before COVID, I was traveling so much. I was never at home. So I was like really accustomed to being on the road and being separated. Going to spending almost six months every day together, I would have thought that would drive me crazy to be home that much. I loved every single moment of it. Oh, good. So it's been really, like, honestly, it's been really, really hard

to be separated. He comes next week and I'm really going to be like, we got to like, we said, we have a timeline. But now I'm like, we got to move up that timeline because I'm not, I'm really struggling, honestly, being in L.A. Yeah. Get Brian out here, convince him to make

the move. I know. I'm very grateful that he's supportive of me like going after something that's been a dream of mine and like he's still doing his practice in Florida and so it's like he's doing his thing I'm doing mine and like we have our we have our goals but there's nothing better than that then a man who's supposed to oh because before I did not have I've never had that never yeah yeah that's really cool pages and chapters in the book here we go oh my gosh jojo I like seriously I'm I apologize for everybody who's listening to this podcast because I feel like Becca and I have selfishly hijacked the conversation for our own

needs. But I do feel like it's going to be really beneficial. I miss you guys. I like talking me. I haven't seen any of my friends. It's like it's crazy. It's it's wonderful. And like our sisterhood is great. Our bachelor, Bachelorette, um, group chat is fire. Speaking of, I feel like it's been silent for like a hot second. I'm going to text everyone right now. I'm just kidding going again. Well, Claire's season starts in two weeks. Oh, it's going to be, it's going to be like, Claire, what the hell is that? Wait, you guys, we still have to post that video we made.

I know. The people don't know. The people don't know. There's a video, you guys, there's a video out there. Do you think it's going to happen? We should actually ask listeners, do you want this to happen? Yes. Right into us.

We lost the good timing. Like, the time is not going to be good for this anymore, but at least it'll be funny. And, like, I think it's so cute. This is really good publicity. Thank you, Jojo, for saying that because, okay, you guys, full disclosure moment here. We're letting you into our Bachelorette group chat. We created a video in May, right? May.

But then, as you know, a lot has happened. Well, really, we started in April. It was like April. I think it was after my birthday. But so much. Right when everyone was so bored in quarantine. It was so bored. And this was like something that was going around.

So it was very timely at the moment. But then, as you guys know, a lot has happened in the world. There's a lot going on. And so we wanted to be sensitive to everything that was happening. So we just kept pushing it back. Now I feel like we can. So Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, if you think we should release the video, you know, we'll put up something on our page and just flood our DMs too.

Listen, is it that good? Should we hype it up that much? I don't even know. People are going to see it and be like, this is what they were raved. about. But it was so much. And I, like you said, I mean, Claire's season starts in two weeks.

It's going to be two weeks. I mean, I think we can do it. They're going to be like, who are these old maids trying to be, trying to be social media hip? Exactly. Oh, my gosh. You're all news. Well, if you, if you guys want to see it, let us know.

It is out there. It is good content. At least it was five, six months ago. I can't believe it's been six months old. We all show different, probably, too. Oh, my gosh. Crazy. Who knows what kind of wig I was wearing back then.

All right. Which, by the way, your hair right now is so good. This is my favorite. Thank you. I've been getting a little compliments on it. I love it. I love it. I want it.

Put it on me. Last question. We ask everyone who comes through this about what's the best and the worst thing that has happened from being on the show. We call it the rose. and the thorn so jojo what is your rose from being affiliated with the franchise bachelor bachelor and what's your thorn oh my gosh and i feel like there's been so many amazing things that has happened from the show i mean obviously first getting to meet jordan and like i i have so many

stories about boyfriends before him and so obviously seeing him and meeting him and it changing my whole perspective on men and relationships in general um but also like it And you guys know, it gives you such an incredible platform to be able to do some of the things you love and share those things with people. And like, I just feel like no matter what, and I tell people this and people always ask, would you recommend going on the show? Whether you get sent home night one, whether you last for the whole time, whether you become the Bachelorette, no matter what, it is such an incredible growing and learning experience. Just taking the leap of face to put yourself out there to go on a show like this, for me, I was super stressed out. nervous and anxious and didn't know. And at that time, I wasn't, I didn't have that much confidence.

I was coming out of a bad relationship that it kind of knocked me down a little bit. So it was a big step to just take that leap and do it. So it has been a huge growing experience, learning experience. So many amazing things that come out of it. So it's hard for me to pick one. I could say I'd pick one. I'd be Jordan. And then the Thorne, I think with that, obviously you have a lot more eyes on you.

And I feel like this is probably the answer for a lot of people. But it's just the pressure of not letting people down. I think. And I think I've done a good job to not really care that much about negative things that people say. But I always do feel like I've been given this awesome platform and people enjoy following me that I feel like I need to make sure I don't let them down. And so that's just a little inner pressure that I think that I sometimes think about. But that's like the smallest thorn of all times. Like I don't, this has been the greatest thing ever.

I thought you were going to say Chad, but. Well, that's a different type of story. I was like, who, who's that? I'd say that word for a second. Well, Jojo, it was so good to talk with you. I'm actually going to text you after this. We'll continue the bachelor's group chat, but it was so good to see you. Thank you for making it with us.

I'm sorry you had to leave your nephew early. Oh, no, I love you guys. So good to see you. I'm glad that I got to do it. I did it. Yay, you're so good at it. You're so good at it. Oh, gosh.

I love you guys. I miss you. We love you, too. love you, too, Jo. Thank you so much. Thanks, I'll see you guys later. Bye. You will. Bye. Bye. Bye, guys. She's so cute. I can't believe she's worked on that many houses. That's exactly what I was about to say. I'm like, when she kept going, she was like, one, two, three. I thought she doesn't say five. She's like one, two, three, five. She's in double digits. Six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Wow. And I mean,

I got to say, what's been so great about having past Bachelorette's come on is like, we even think we know them and we don't like there's so much that you don't know and just to hear jojo say because i i speak about this like when i go to colleges i talk about whose life are you living and i wasn't bold enough to say actually that's not what i really want to do i'm starting to have other interests and passions and i just continued it on a path that you know i was i was into but my heart wasn't fully into it so i'm always impressed when people are like no i'm going to follow my passion and then she was like, this is what I love and I'm going to figure it out and do it myself. That's so, and she's so doubtcated.

And I'm like, that is a big deal, girl. It takes courage. That's the thing. It's like it's so easy to go along this steady route or routine, you know, and if her entire family was in medicine and, and were nurses and doctors, like to say, uh-uh, that's not what's going to feel me. I'm going to get burnt out. To recognize what could burn you out at that young of an age, I think is incredible.

And yeah, she's just, she's so inspiring with everything. Like everything she's working on plus planning a wedding, you know, obviously feeling in for Chris Harrison. She has a lot going on. So I am so happy we had her on. It was hard to get her on. I remember texting her a couple weeks ago, I'd be like, hey, when can we have you? Yeah. And she was so busy.

So it's, I'm really, really grateful she was able to join us today. I am too, man. And I think the moral of the story of our, our bachelorette tour, our going down Bachelorette memory lane is that bachelor's are pretty freaking awesome, right? So awesome. You know, they're just not here to fill.

And how different? Like, think of all the girls that we've had on. Like, everyone is working on such different projects and at different life stages that it's, but every one of them, I feel like we could just chat with them for like way longer than we're allotted for the podcast.

Yeah. There should be a book of bacheloretts. Like, I know we have our Bible that we give to bachelets, you know, that we started with you. but I think it's something, honestly, that we should tell our stories because people think they know us as just these bachelorets and they're in this position to find love and pick

men, but there's so much depth to who we are and what we were before the world knew us. And then what we've been able to do afterwards with our platforms, I'm telling you, franchise, listen, NZK, Warner, ABC, you're missing out here. There's something to be done. We could rule the world, guys. We already are. I actually had that conversation with my friend the other night. She's like, we, if they cut this out, she's like, we don't need men.

Like, women can rule the world. We can do handmade sale, but flip it and reverse it. We've seen this. We've seen this. You saw Wonder Woman. You saw what those Amazon women were doing before, before men came into it and messed it up. That world looks awesome. Awesome.

Daydreaming. Daydreaming over here. No, it was so fun to have Jojo on. And you guys, thank you for hanging out with us today and tuning in. As we mentioned earlier, the premiere of The Bachelor is only one week away. So mark your calendars because Tuesday, October 13th is the premiere. And since the show will now be airing on Tuesdays, our podcast will be coming out a day later on Wednesdays. So also mark that on your calendars.

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