Bachelor Happy Hour - Fran & Ria from ‘Chicks in the Office’ Break Down Bachelor Nation

Episode Date: April 5, 2022

Fran and Ria from “Chicks in the Office” stop by “Bachelor Happy Hour” this week to share all their opinions on the nonstop roller coaster that is Bachelor Nation.  In their conversation with ​Becca and Michelle, Fran and Ria discuss how “The Bachelor” franchise became such a major part of “Chicks in the Office,” who from Bachelor Nation has surprised them the most in real life, and why they prefer a drama-filled season over a straightforward love story.  Then, nothing is off the table in a round of “Bachelor”-themed rapid-fire questions where Fran and Ria reveal which couples they wish were still together and what they rank as the most WTF moment in “Bachelor” history.  Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let's go. Round two. You crushed it last week. I have to say, my mom will always listen to the episodes. And then she'll, of course, text me. And she's like, I love having Michelle. I love the two Minnesota girls on it. I'm like, mom, so do I.

We need to get our moms together because my mom does the exact same thing. And it's like this little family unit now. I know. It's so special. Get a group check going. We actually should actually. I will set that up right after this recording. And yes, the next time I'm back in Minnesota after the tour, we will definitely have you

over for a good old cookout Minnesota style. Let's do it. Okay, Becca. So you have to give me an update. We talked a little bit about this last time. but Bachelor Live on stage, where are you headed? How is it going? How do you feel like the fans are responding to all of this? We, well, so right now we're currently in Baltimore and it's been such a wild ride. I've, like I said last week, it's such a blast. It's been so fun. We just wrapped up the Midwest section of the tour. And so now we're on to the East Coast. We'll be here for a couple weeks. Have you met Justin Glaze? He's her current Bachelor of the Week. He was on. Not in person. It always gets so cloudy of who I've actually met in person because I feel like

when you're in this world, you get to know people or you know who they are. You know so much about them, but you've actually never met them in person. Yep. Well, and especially you'll learn, too, as you do the podcast, like we have so many fun people on here that once you actually meet them in real life, you're like, wait, I already know you, but I didn't physically meet you. So it's, it gets, there's so many of us. Let's just say that. There's so many of us. It's such a blur. But yeah, so Justin is our current Bachelor. He is crushing it. He is a natural on stage, like so much fun.

It's going to be a good week. Okay, Justin. Yeah, we've had some fun guests last night. We're in Boston. Chris Rock actually performed the same time as us right next stage. And so at one point, I walked outside before the show started. And there was a ton of paparazzi. And I'm like, okay, I know you're not here for Bachelor Live on stage.

What's going on? And then I turned to the corner and, you know, Chris Rock. flashing in lights on the on the Marquio's like this makes sense but yeah tour's going well but michelle you have been crushing it lately you've been doing so many speaking appearances it seems like how has that been going it's been such a whirlwind as well a stressful whirlwind but it's like this you know the situation where i'm super uncomfortable there's so much going on because there's so many new things but it's exactly where i want to be and so i've been able to um speak at several events for the women's Final Four that's in Minnesota. And it's been really cool to just be

able to connect, empower women, kind of get into that motivational, inspirational speaking world. And yeah, I mean, I feel like I've been living in nerves for the last week. Well, I truly kudos to you. I commend you for just everything that you're doing right now. I don't know how you even have a moment of free time in your schedule between teaching this podcast. all of your appearances. You are seriously killing it. And I'm so proud watching you. It's been so fun to follow along. Oh, well, thank you. Yeah. It just, it's, it's really nice to, you know, be able to do that because it's something that I'm really passionate about of just, you know, speaking, inspiration, but then working in, like, that whole education world. And so it's been pretty cool. It's exactly where I kind of wanted to

be. And so I'm excited to see where I can go with it. Well, you know, on your season, you kept saying you wanted to change the world and I feel like you're doing that. There we go. Yeah, we're working on way, you know. One day at a time. I don't think I've slept in like 32 hours, no joke. I'm so tired, but. Well, you look incredible. You look, you don't look like you haven't slept. Also, speaking of just being busy, I mean, obviously you're a fiance and I want to ask you because I obviously follow all of the guys on Instagram and we know that it was Mr. Rodney's birthday. 30th birthday. The dirty. The dirty. was there did how was that trip for him i mean that trip i feel like has been in the works for so

long to the point like by the time that weekend actually rolled around the amount of times that i had already heard about ronnie's dirty 30 i thought it already happened um but everyone seemed just so excited about it i mean what better person to rally around rodney's so much fun he's such a sweet person such an authentic person um him and nate are just incredibly close to and so So the fact that, like, all the boys, they went to San Diego. It seems like from the most part they all stayed out of trouble, which is good. You know, they're all alive. They are all kicking.

And I guess that's all we can ask from Boys Weeks. Wait, okay. I know every time anyone gets together in this world, things I always go down. Is there any tea that you learn from this trip? Give us something good. There had to have been something. Oh, my gosh. I was fearful that you're going to ask me this, but not because I have like a juicy answer

is because I almost don't have a juicy answer because they just truly, it was like a drama-free weekend, like all the guys that, you know, you know, when you're on the TV show and there's just, you're not really sure like who gets along with who and, you know, but like they actually just genuinely enjoy each other's company clearly because I feel like anytime I go on Instagram, I'm still like seeing Rodney's birthday. everybody is posting about it constantly Hey you know maybe next year we can invite the fiancés But it's okay I don't need to throw in any shape quite yet

But no I don't have any gossip I don't have anything thing like that I mean well we Rodney will be our bachelor next week And so I'm going to get some dirt out of him I know it because I not only was it guys But there were girls from the most recent season And I was like, I know someone's hooking up with someone.

So I'm going to get the tea and I will spill it next week. Actually, I won't. I will keep it with me. We'll talk about it. To crack, you know. But also at the same time, I feel like, you know, the guys, I've been seeing so many pictures of Rodney. I mean, he, one thing about Rodney is he is an early bird. Like, he goes to bed early.

And so. Man after my own heart. He falls asleep. Like, we'll be, you could be in the middle of a party, a middle of a party, middle of a concert. and he'll fall asleep. The man will fall asleep. And then you'll tap him to wake up and then he'll start dancing and get back in the, you know, the vibes. And then he's knocked out two seconds later, you know. Hey, it's his party. He can do what he wants to. He does that party, his party or not. Oh, I love it. Well, it looked like such an absolute blast. Yeah, next time we got to be invited,

Michelle. Or we're just going to show up and make our own damn party. This was a freebie. Exactly. Yes, yes. Well, speaking of fun times to be had, we have. We have. We have to be invited. We have two incredible guests coming on very shortly. They're huge Bachelor fans. They have their own wonderful podcast. If you haven't heard of it, it is Chicks in the Office. Go check it out because they are an absolute hoot. They have a lot to say about this franchise. And we cannot wait to have them on to get all of their hot takes, you know, on all things, Bachelor Nation. So ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, let's just bring on Ria and Fran from Chicks in the Office. All right. Well, Fran Rea Chicks in the office in the house. Welcome to Happy Hour. Thanks for having us. We're so excited.

Yeah. It's such a we feel so officially bachelor. I know. I feel so excited to be here and so happy to see you guys. Thanks for having us. Before this, you were already officially bachelor. But now it's like a podcast takeover. I love it. Officially on officially. Yeah. But bachelor pop. I feel like you guys have been in the Bachelor family a little bit, you know, for a while with everything. And I know, know that I've been on your podcast so the moment that I was the host or got announced as a co-host I'm so excited now you're in the hot seat I know things get flipped yeah we're like cousins to the bachelor yeah we're not immediate family but like the like dirt yeah like the dirty uncle yeah yeah yeah yeah the drunk uncle yeah let's go with the dirty uncle I like that family

thanksgiving is real fun exactly I have to say because I you know listening to you obviously each week. And so now to see you again in person and like have you here. It's so fun for both Michelle and I. I'm so happy that you said yes to this because I'm sure you're crazy crazy. I know. I mean, I'm we're happy you ask. Yeah.

And we will get into all things a Bachelor. But to start it off for any of our listeners who don't know either of you or really how chicks in the office got started. Like what was the evolution of that? Take it away Maria. You know the story. You do it. Short and sweet. I'll try to make it as quick as possible. But I started working at Barstool in 2016. I was 19 years old. I was going to school at FIT. And a friend of mine here, Glenn, I went to high school with him. He got an internship. I congratulated him. And he was like, they're actually looking for some women here because they're the only woman at the time was our CEO, Erica. So they were like, we're trying to get some more women in here. I came in, interviewed. Women. Yeah, I know. I know. I have a

problem with the women woman thing whatever that's beside the point let me tell the story yeah sorry i did i did you did and so i started interning at bar school and i was here for like six months and i was doing some on camera stuff some off camera stuff just trying to get my hands on whatever it was that i could and then fran came in about six months after uh i did and we started we were like the only two girls here and we started hanging out on the couch because there wasn't a lot of desk it was only chicks in the office. Literally, that's where chicks in the office came from because whenever a girl would come in the office, the guys would joke like, oh, there's a chick in the office, chick in the office. So we like took that name. And we just started bonding over pop culture

celebrities that we liked and we would just sit on that couch and talk about it. And then from there, we were like, all right, let's try to do something together. Like, why not? There isn't any female shows here at all. There isn't anything really. They would talk about pop culture here and there but not like a show focused on that so we made an Instagram and we started doing like one minute videos of the biggest topic of the day and we would do that every single day we built it up and people started catching on to that like people you know girls were loving it we wanted to bring in like a female audience to Barstle so that was happening and then from the Instagram barcel got their own uh serious XM channel and they we have never had any radio experience

like I said, I was 19. Were you at the time? 22. And whenever radio experience at all, and they were like, all right, this channel starts in two weeks and you guys are going to go on every single day and do a radio show on Sirius X-M. So we start, no pressure. So we started doing that.

We had, we had two weeks to figure it out. We had no idea what we were doing, but we did it. We ended up doing it every single day. And then from the radio, they were like, why don't you guys do a podcast? And we thought, at the time, this was now, 2017 or 2018, we're like, there's so many podcasts already. Like, it is not possible people are going to listen to our podcast, start the podcast, and immediately people caught on to that.

And we've been doing it ever since. And then we got the Snapchat show. So it was a crazy journey for us, considering we didn't really have that much experience going into it. Yeah, and we used to do it once a week, the podcast. Then we did it twice a week. Now we do three times a week. And we kind of have figured it out together

because like I said, we didn't have any radio experience or anything like that. And we just did it. We just figured out a way to make it work. And here we are. I've always watched. And then I've always watched The Bachelor and I just sucked Ria right into it.

They were like, you got to watch The Bachelor. You got to watch The Bachelor. And so I started watching The Bachelor, obviously. I think the first, I had watched Caitlin Bristow's season before and like some here and there I would watch a couple episodes but I think the first one that I watched at work was Ari season

yeah yeah so sorry so then obviously I got to know you at the beginning of Beckin's journey so there you go have you guys actually have you guys gotten in an argument I'm dying to know like how much time do you actually spend with each other? Oh every day

every day we are together so much time we're together like five days out of the week, basically. And I mean, so we, we, people always also thought we were friends before. People think we're sisters. People think we've been best friends for years. Like, we met at work, but have grown into very much like a sisterly relationship where there have been plenty of times where we have snapped at each other.

And then we have to sit in silence for like 15 minutes. And then we're like, I'm sorry, I snapped at you. Okay. I'm just, there's a lot. And I also think that we've both gotten better at communicating. Like I also think that I like I was like I said I was 19 like I think I've grown up a little bit and have become a better communicator of how I feel about things. And I think we've gotten to know each other and how each other work a lot more. So it's easier to articulate how we're feeling. But oh yeah, we definitely have. But I think one time somebody asks us at our live show like how we've kept this friendship because we've seen obviously people do podcasts and the friendship goes into flames and we've been doing this now for. We've known each other now for over five years. And she said it's because we're like family now.

Like we also, our families are very similar. We both come from like Italian families. We have the same amount of siblings and all the dynamics are the same. So I forgot exactly what your answer was. It was like because we're family. Like you don't fuck with family. Yeah, you don't fuck with family. Like it's nothing, no argument's going to make us like not be friends.

Right. Waiting until Becca and I have our first argument. I think we're not arguers, though. You guys both have a little too much, like, Minnesota nice in you, because that I, there could be some, the Minnesota nice, which is like the nice, but there's passive aggressiveness. I was going to say, what you're trying to say over there. Minnesota is known to be passive aggressive. And I think it helps one thing. I mean, I'm jealous that you two are in studio recording daily together.

I mean, I wish Michelle and I had that right now. It makes it tough because I'm on the road for tour. But I'm hoping one day we will be back in studio together. And I'm sure I'm not hoping for the argument, but I'm sure it will come. Speaking of Minnesota, right before I had you, you both come on. I was giving our listeners a little background. And I was like, they are a hoot. And Michelle's like, you sound so damn Minnesota.

Have you ever been described as a hoop before? Your boyfriend's dad described me as a hoot. Yeah. I remember that. Oh, really? It is a compliment. It is a compliment. Have you heard of cassero?

or hot dish. Wait, no, we say hot dish. See, I've been in and out of Minnesota now. I'm already changing. I don't know with that. Is that hot dish a casserole? Yeah, basically the same thing. Just Minnesota version.

I know what a casserole is. Yes. I've never heard hot dish. No, I've never heard of hot dish. Well, we'll make you a real Minnesota hot dish if you guys don't come to Midwest. Taking it back to just like the origins of chicks in the office, I have to commend you and give kudos. where they're due because it's got to be so damn hard to make your way in such a male-dominated world.

And just like the fact that you solidified your place as these two young females, you know, like 19, it's crazy. I mean, I think that's incredible. And just it's been so fun for me because I've been listening to you for years now just to see how much you've grown. I have a question for Michelle quick, because Michelle, you were on their podcast during your season, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. And then I came to your studio. you probably don't remember this.

I remember, but last time you guys were doing the live show, The Bachelor Live on stage and we're talking about making Trent the which he does not want. Which during that time he was he not, did he not pull the luggage first on piloting season?

He did. So that was right after Ben and I came, I think. It all happened at the same time frame. That was when he had a big moment. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

and so that was in New York I mean we were there years ago and I remember at that time we were doing a full press tour and I was fan girl in so hard because you two were the only ones who I was really excited to meet that I knew

and so I was so nervous when I met you both and so it's so funny we've come full circle and I'm interviewing you both now but I have to ask since you're based in New York the live tour

will be there in a couple days do you want to come what day that's a good great question. April second. I'm here. Listen, if I can get someone. Oh, I'm about to pull an Eric Church. Oh, you and see. I'm about to pull an Eric Church. It's the, it's the final four nights. Oh, I don't know if you guys are sports or bachelor. What do you? I know, I know. I don't know if you guys heard this story,

but Eric Church was is doing. He had a show on Saturday, final four night. He's a big Carolina basketball fan. He had a concert. He canceled the concert. so that he could go watch the game. Shut up. Seriously? Wait, what are they even doing in that situation? Like, does everyone get refunded? I don't know if they get refunded.

I don't know if they have to reschedule the dates. They can get tickets to a different show. They're very upset. Like, people are traveling. Like, the people who bought tickets, who bought flights, who bought hotels, like, they're pissed, rightfully so. But it was like, it's just funny. You know, Final Four, it's a big night.

It is a big night. Who's the bachelor? I love that you guys changed it up where it's like bachelor people. I think that's really cool. Oh, it's been so fun. So for New York, it's Justin. So he's this week. I love Justin.

And I mean, oh yeah, he's great. He's a natural. He is such a ham on stage. He truly belongs out there. So if you don't end up watching the final four, come. We'll get you tickets. But it would just be fun to see you. And speaking of tours, I know that you are headed out on the West Coast Tour

were shortly. Do you want to talk a little bit about that? We're excited. Well, we can't talk much about it because we've come to learn. We know nothing about the West. I am so bad at geography. You just embarrassed ourselves all week long, trying to act like we like know what the West Coast is. I was talking about Portland having the best lobster rolls, but I was thinking to Portland, Maine. We're not going to Portland, Maine. We're going to Portland, Oregon. I don't even even know if that's a fucking pronounced. I'm sorry, I don't know if it's first on here. But it's, We're going to all places. We've never been.

San Diego, Scottsdale, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle. The tickets are on sale so you can go buy tickets. But we are East Coast people. We love the East Coast. Every time we go to L.A., we say, get us back to the East Coast. We don't want to be here. But we are very excited to visit these spots and meet the people here. And just, I think, like Fran said, we've never been to these places before.

just to get to experience these other places. You're in Southern Cal now, right? Yeah, so I was actually looking up your schedule because I was like, damn, if I can make it, I really want to go see you. You're there the very end of my tour, but you'll be in San Diego, I think, for your first stop, right? So I might send Thomas to bring you some really good recommendations for food,

whatever you want. Like, he can be your tour guide for the day. But you'll have a blast. I've been to some of the cities, and you will have so much fun. We're really excited and we're looking forward to learning a lot

from all these new places. Is this the first time that you, have you done a podcast tour before? We just did one last year for the first time and we did all like, we did places we knew

we were going to be comfortable. We were like, let's go to cities where we know if we bomb, they hopefully still love us. So we did Boston, Philly, Chicago, Nashville,

and New York. Do you have any like embarrassing stories from when you were on tour like what was the hard what was like the hardest thing my least favorite place was philly and i've talked about that plenty of times before i think here's the thing i think that every crowd was awesome like i can't i was not expecting the show out that we had i was like blown away i think i cried maybe at every stop afterwards i will start tearing up right now like it's it really uh just sometimes when i think about it I'm like people are paying money.

I do when I think about these things because I'm like people are paying money to see us entertain them like the fact that I get to entertain people for a job is really, really cool and just like makes me think like, whoa, like, you know, sometimes you're like, how do I even deserve this? Am I even not entertaining? Like what? People are paying this money. So it was just like a lot to take in every show.

And I thought that the crowds really came out and it was so exciting to see. Do I think some crowds cooperated a little bit better? than others. Yes, we went to Philly and it was the night of an Eagles game. I will defend my Philadelphia. It was a Thursday night game. The Eagles were playing the bucks. You couldn't hear us on the stage.

It was man. It was chaos. I think it had to do a little bit with the venue. It wasn't. They didn't have enough seats for everyone. So there was like standing room in the back and it just kind of got a little rowdy. Right. Over 300 people. They're screaming. They're yelling. The great part about it

was anything we said. They would go, whoa. right after. So it was like, wow, we're getting really hyped up. But at the same time, we couldn't even like really put on the show that we were used to putting on. But besides that, I think that was really one of the only obstacles that we really faced besides that. I think everything went smoothly. And I really enjoyed each spot. And I think each, each spot we went to had a different feel, but in a great way. Like they were all great in their own way, you know, just the restaurants we got to go to. My personal favorite, I think, besides New York, because I'm from New York and we live in

New York and our families got to come to that show, which was really, really cool. Chicago really did it for me. Like, I thought Chicago was just awesome all the way through. Everything about it. Like, it was just awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, and it probably helps. I mean, I was just in Chicago for one of our shows and the crowd there was incredible. It was so electric and the fact that like you kind of feed off of audience, I'm sure. Like, you know what hits, what works, what doesn't work. But, like, when they're boosting you up and, and the best

is, like, when you say something and they laugh and you're like, oh, damn, I'm really funny. Okay. It's fun when you can, like, get to know your crowds. I'm a little nervous because I do head to Philadelphia tomorrow. So now I'm sorry. You will be, you will be just fine. The Eagles aren't playing, so I think I'm to be just fine. Like, it was a, like I said, Thursday night game. I was at a bar. People were drinking for the game.

we had Zach come and he was hyping people up for the game it was just all like Philly centric and I think I think people were just excited for the game like I think they used us as a pregame which is fine yeah and they're diehard fans right like I don't know much about sports but I've heard that Eagles fans are like ride or die you're looking at one and I'm a site and I'm a

yeah I'm a I'm a side yeah I'm 100% I it's not that I don't like football season but football season friend is a toss. It's a different person. It's a different kind of friend. You never know what you're going to get. She's come to watch games in my whole family

and she's just sat there like in silence. Like are you guys like what happened to any your social cues? Like you're acting like monsters. I just have never seen her in that light. Like it's just, it's crazy. Yeah. But good for them.

I want to know what football season Fran is like. A monster. Like do you have an alter. A great time. Yeah. No. I get. I get very invested.

I'm not a big yeller. I don't, I'm not a big, like, I don't raise my voice. I talk loudly, but I don't, like, raise my voice often. And we'll yell. We'll, like, we'll really, we'll really start yelling, pointing at the TV, cheering, bleeding. There's a few really great Philly bars in New York that I'll go watch games at. And in those environments, everyone just hypes each other up.

So you're just, like, constantly, the energy is bringing, you to the top. Feeding the beast. Exactly. So if your team actually loses, are you actually, like you're physically upset for a while? The next day. And we record.

You're like, don't talk to you. Get to the office. You're like, don't talk to. We record on Sundays and for a show on Monday, our Chick's episode. And there have been tough, lost games where I've like come into the studio and I'm just like, I'm in a bad mood. Let's get this over with it. Yeah.

So then I'm watching the games. I'm not working today. I'm looking at the games. I'm watching the score like, rude for the Eagles. now because I just don't want her to be upset. Yeah. Okay, well, we know that Fran, you are a diehard Eagles fan,

but what do you like more? Football or The Bachelor? This is like Trent's, do you like golf or the Bachelor more? I mean, football, football is my first love, and it's what I've known my whole life. I wrote my college essay on being an Eagles fan. So I've just, like, I've really, yeah, yeah.

Did you really, you know your college? essay about being what was really more about like my relationship with my dad and how it's been connected through a football but it was football mostly football

but look at this relationship in front of me I know I know I know so football is always my first love but the Bachelor always has a special place in my heart even when it's pissing me off

I still love it yeah and I wouldn't say our relationship formed through the Bachelor because yeah I really had to like she wasn't an avid watcher and I was like you have I was like you have to jump in and dedicate time to this because I know that there are so many people like me who are so invested and they want to hear us talk about it I was like you have no choice yeah right this is work now exactly when you're obviously when you're like so invested in something right you're going to have your own opinions you're going to be very opinion at times what what is your take on this last season? season as a bachelor right with clayton as a bachelor how did you feel do you feel like you did a good

job do you feel like you know obviously mistakes that were made but what's your take on it here's my thought i really think that uh he went into this blindly and i felt like he went through the journey as honestly as he possibly could which meant that he really fucked up at some places because i do think that there are Bachelor and Bacheloretts where when the season's over it's like oh they did a good job there was nothing crazy they kind of followed the rules like it was nothing you know they didn't break out

too much and for Clayton it's like I felt like he really was authentically him or else he probably would have tried to cover up some of the things that he did if that makes sense where he did try and do it

to the best of his ability I don't think he had anything to compare it to because he claims he didn't watch anything before doing it. And so it was a little bit of a train wreck. But sometimes those seasons are the best. Ria would argue that those are the best seasons. I do. I like the train wreck seasons because I'm interested in like the drama aspect of the show. And I think that's what keeps me hooked. Like P and Hannah are Ria's favorite seasons. He and Hannah Brown seasons are my favorite because of how chaotic they were. And I know people will really disagree with that because they'll be like those were terrible. But I enjoy it how chaotic they really were. But for

this season I don't think Clayton's a bad guy and I think that that's what people get confused sometimes where they will just label somebody as a bad person just because they made some mistakes and then obviously we join in and we're like you messed up and we're telling Clayton himself like we didn't agree with any decisions you made but I think that sometimes and I you guys could probably agree from being on the show yourselves that when people watch this show they tend to forget and not put themselves in the position of the person, the lead or the contestant. Like they don't think about it in an aspect of like, if I was in his position or you wouldn't be perfect, you wouldn't be perfect or like, yeah, hey, what if a camera followed you

around 24-7? They would pick up on some things that other people would watch and be like, I don't like that. That person's doing that. And so people think, people comment on this show think they're perfect. And I think that's what gets me going. And then I end up taking the side of the person that everyone's mad at because I'm like, it just doesn't make sense to me that somebody can get labeled as like a terrible person for some mistakes. Like, yeah, let's talk about the mistakes, but then also point out, like, I think he's a nice guy. Like, I don't think Clayton's a bad guy. Yeah. And it's right. And it's such an odd situation that I feel like I kind of compare it. I was talking to one of my friends the other day, and I compare it to, like, the viewers

to, like, when you're watching the Olympics, right? So, like, the Olympics come on and you watch, you know, for a little bit. And then within, like, you know, 20 minutes, you are the, like, you're sitting on your couch, but you are the expert. One of the judges. Yeah. I became an expert in Lose at this winter Olympics. You are the expert.

And it's like, that's, you know, I think we're watching these shows and we get so invested with them. It's like, you're sitting on the couch and you're like, oh, I would have done this. I could have, they should have done this. And it's just like, it's such a, it's so hard to relate. You don't know unless you're in the position. And I think even just in daily life, not even on the bachelor, I think that people can learn from that too when you like, think, oh, my friend did this

or somebody did that. And you're so quick to judge. And even my, I've caught myself judging people. And then I'll take a step back and be like, well, what would you have done? And like, you're not perfect. Everybody does things where you. And who can say, like what person can say, every fight I've had

I've done it with grace and elegance and I was articulate and got my point across like that doesn't happen for everyone's there's sometimes you get into a fight or an argument and you look like a dickhead and then that's just what happened I said this on one of the podcasts I don't know

what season it was on if it was this one or if it was your season Michelle where I was like why because people throw out like the buzzwords now like guess like toxic right like everyone's like they throw out these words and I don't think they learn the words so now they think they're just thrown it out there

like it's nothing and I'm like do you think you've never done that in a fight like you know what I'm saying like do you think you've never gaslit somebody before because you probably have like I think everyone has before not meaning to do so so I like you said like nobody's perfect in a fight you're not always right you're trying to win the fight so you're gonna you know and I think like especially in recent seasons because I've I've been watching for a bit like I started watching with my roommate back in college and but it seems like in recent seasons maybe it's because of social media like the leads are put on a pedestal and they're not expected to do

anything wrong like obviously they're supposed to be like America's most eligible bachelor when they are named the lead but now it's like they can't fuck up at all and it's sad to think that a lead could potentially because the outside voice when the show is over is so loud that while you are filming could be looking at the guys or the girls and be like do I keep this person I have stronger feelings for someone else but I just feel like the the public is going to really like this person and like if I send them home or are people going to be mad at me instead of just kind of going with their gut what your heart wants yeah I feel like I mean even just like from you know

being like the most recent Bachelorette when you're in that situation some of the best advice was just that you really do have to not try to like calculate every single move because if you're constantly trying to think about what the public is

you know going to think about this in two months when it airs you take your head out of the game but it's so much easier said than done because you do you like you don't want to make the wrong move you're like how is this going to come off. How is this going to be perceived? And the funny part about all of that is like you don't

have control over that part. You know, it's just like you have to, kudos to you guys. It has no sense of just whatever you do, you are the one that has to live with it. So it's stick with like who you are. But it's so easy to lose. It's crazy. Yeah, we'll be firmly sitting in our viewers. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. So when you're still in Bachelor in Paradise. Let's go. Let's just come combine our worlds together. Be a bartender with Wells for an episode. Something like that. You know the amount of times we've

pitched ourselves to Robert Mills to like just host a date on any of the shows? And he always teases us and he makes it seem like it's going to happen and it doesn't. It never happens. One date. Bachelor, Bachelor, Paris. Who cares? We'll pay for it. We'll show up. You know who else keeps trying to pitch yourself is this one?

So if you're doing it, I'm doing it with you. I'm piggybacking off of you both. So you said your favorite season have been either Pilot Pete's or I love that I still call him Pilot Pete or Hannah I know it's well we actually talked about Pilot Pete in our show we

have a game and that's how we refer to him as so I think that's why I do it but who has been your favorite or most interesting person from Bachelor Nation that you've had on your podcast I mean I think there's been a few

people that have come on who like maybe we did form opinions on based on the show and then those opinions changed from actually having a real conversation with them probably nick is the right yeah yeah nick like we love to make fun of nick file like we were like oh my god made fun of him constantly yeah we did um after watching him on all the shows and um you know he's been on our podcast a couple times we've done his show and we've we're just like this you know he's he is a good guy yeah and it's it's just Like having an actual conversation with people is, is always different.

And not for a lead. Everyone else is honestly like every single time, we're like, oh, that person was great. I also don't want a mistake in where like people think I like Pilot Pete. Like I like to season because it was chaotic. Like I'm not a Pilot Pete fan. Yeah. Like I want that on. I want that on Russia because I am, I am no Pilot Pete fan and I think Alla listeners know that.

But I think not a lot. a lead, but a contestant Keenan, I think people had some assumptions about her, like going into the show and they're like, she's so young and whatever. And then she's done on our show and she's always so complimentary of us.

And I think that she's really sweet and cool. And I thought she was great after she came in. Yeah. Well, she got so much flack for just her age in general. People are like, she's going to be so immature. But like we've had her on our podcast and she she had a girl very fast i think just living in the scene that she does in new york that she came across so mature to me that i did not expect it and

i was like she's actually that's the same takeaway she has such an old soul too and i mean even when us girls were in the house and things like that just you if if someone didn't tell you how young she was you would have no idea and we always joked about you know she would go on Kit would go on these power walks every single morning, like in, like, this, like, vicinity that we can go on because we're in a bubble still. And, like, we call them her grandma power walks because she put her hood on. She'd have her, like, socks, her sneakers, her sweats. And then she'd carry her little weights and she was just in her zone. And so, yeah. I keep forgetting you were with her on Matt's season, too, by the way. I also forgot that. Okay, well, so we know that you don't like Pilot Pete as a person. If you both could be on any season, though, Who would it have been? Oh, that's a good question. Oh. Hmm.

There's not one Bachelor that I would choose to go on this season. I have to be completely honest. Like, maybe because I haven't watched enough. I've seen Pilot Peets. I've seen Ari's. I've seen Matt James and I've seen Clayton's. What am I missing one? And you watch, did you watch Knicks?

No, I didn't watch Nix. Oh. Because he was before Ari. Pete? So out of the ones I've seen, I would never choose any of. I would go I would say Hannah Browns mine's Ben Higgins I would have gone on Ben I love Ben Higgins I've always been a big Ben Higgins fan oh Bachelorette I said Hannah Brown because I liked the guys from her season super fair

I mean I'm trying to think of I did like I like Jojo season a lot and the guys from Jojo season and Caitlin's yeah I feel like Michelle probably had the best cast but I would pick it yeah they were great they were yeah no we actually those boys all vibe I feel like too their own yeah all their big parties

they were just having for it seemed like you got a group of birthday of way more mature guys oh she did yes yeah yeah I mean they're they were they're good people there are so many good guys that were on my season with all of that. And, no, it's been, it's been funny to just kind of watch them, you know, all, like, truly get to know each other, not that they're outside of this.

But so you've interviewed so many people, if you could have somebody that you could have on your podcast that you haven't had, like, do you have a dream goal of who you want to be on your podcast? In Bastro Nation or just in general? Let's do outside of Bachelor Nation. Um, I mean, our number one is Harry Styles. by far. That's just, that is dream guest. Wow.

Wait, you guys, guess who's tour bus I'm living on right now? What? Harry Styles. Oh my gosh. We got the bus. Wait, why come hang out with me in New York. Come on the bus. I would lick the floor. I would. But, well, I don't know if you want to do that.

It's been very muddy out here. But I have to say, it smells a little bit like cigarettes. Yeah, come on. But isn't that a little sexy because you know it was Harry Styles? Come on. It's a little rock and roll vibe. It's a. I feel like, though, I'm like, I got a sage back here because I don't know like what

Roopies will come in on this bus back here. You know what kind of energies we're entering that bus. But I will say, it depends on the, uh, who's smoking the cigarette. And if Harry Siles is smoking a cigarette, I was going to say, if it wasn't Harry Siles. Yeah. I'm just picturing it in like a deep V with like some necklaces with like a little locket. Oh, my God. I think like, it's a weird vision.

Any of the Kardashians we take. Justin Bieber, just because obviously Justin Bieber, but we also have a backstory with him. Like I think that would be funny. Hmm. Quite literally any any really major. Miley Cyrus.

Speaking of, yeah, obviously. Speaking of Kardashians and Jenner, how do you feel about the, did you see the exchange between Caitlin Jenner and Lady Gaga at the Oscars? I'm seeing a new barista. I have your thoughts on that.

I think that Lady Gaga just doesn't want to be hanging out with Caitlin Jenner. And she's like, I'm going to a different Starbucks. I saw her response to her face. And I was like, oh, Gaga. Yeah, it's just like the classic person speaking to you that's like, I haven't seen you a while and to not be like, yeah, you know, maybe I didn't like the crowd at the last Starbucks I was asked.

They kept writing my name wrong on the damn cup. That's just, it was just. And to even like have the balls or the guy, like to even ask Lady Gaga like why aren't you coming to my Starbucks and like I haven't seen you in a while it's like all right yeah

we're lost okay Caitlin I also can't picture Lady Gaga at a Starbucks I feel like she's more of like a niche coffee coffee house she has like someone brewing her own personalized coffee

I would assume so her mansion yeah sometimes you just want exactly she has someone want the chain stuff that's true yeah okay we are going to get into our game but one last bachelor

question before we wrap this up because I know that you two are so busy how do you feel about the dual bachelorette season that's going down right now originally yeah I'm excited now originally like first reaction was oh bad idea bad idea they were just fighting over

Clayton whatever then I was like you know what though I love a little change up I love a little idea have some drama, but I don't want, because I really like them both, and I don't want them to end up fighting over a guy that's like, I hope they have different guys set for them, or I hope that the guys don't fuck them over, and it's like they end up with one and they want to switch to the other. Like, I, because I want, I think that they have a great friendship. I think that they've created from this season. I think we've all seen that. And I don't want their friendship

to be tested with some guys, because I think then that's going. Yeah. opposite of what these two deserve after what happened this season. Yeah, and, you know, I think we both had the same reaction first because we're all still scarred from what they did at the beginning of Caitlin's season when they tried to do, like, it's obviously going to be a different format than that because that went so poorly when it was like, vote for who you want to be the bachelor or the bachelorette. And so this is, that was our first thought.

But yeah, you just hope, like, even though Matt, like, the girls can still be so close and understanding where if Gabby's with some guy and the guy's like, I kind of want to get to know Rachel. Like, I know they seem strong enough to be like, that's not Rachel's fault. Like, Gabby's not going to be mad at Rachel for that. But it's just, it causes, it always pulls a little bit. But honestly, we don't know what, maybe you guys don't. We don't know what the format is. Like, are, is it? We don't know either.

Is it split guys for each girl? Is it 30 guys for both girls? So we have no idea. It's going to be interesting. I'm intrigued. I think it's going to be very interesting. Like the success percentage might go up. Exactly. Exactly. Like the odds of 30 guys and one girl working, like you had another girl. Odds are probably better that all 30 of those guys might not like just one of them. But to have two, it could be split or but, you know, you also never. know. Even when they announced, like, my first reaction because, I mean, I came from, we had two back-to-back seasons of Bachelorette. And so when we first were told or at that AFR, we're like, two bachelorets. And I'm like, wait, are we dating the same people? Because that would be awful. And I'm like, I'm not doing that. But so when they announced this, I was still in the mindset that it

was two separate seasons. So I was like, this is so awesome. And then I was like, once I started seeing and like hearing things I'm like oh wow this is going to be interesting so it's definitely going to be like your chaotic dramatic season yeah definitely and we were we were glad for also just for one season just because it has been it has felt very saturated we love the show we love watching

but it has been nonstop January to December for the last year and a half plus of multiple bachelorette seasons Bachelor, Bachelor in Paradise, where I think everybody maybe needed like a little bit of a cool off. So, yeah, exactly. Before a Bachelorette comes back. You got to give us a little bit of a chance to miss it.

Yes. Which we will. Exactly. Totally. Give us something to long for. I said the same thing. Once we are waiting until I think it's July, I think, when we're going to get Bachelorette, we'll all be so excited for it.

Yeah. We need, yeah, everyone needs a break. I think the crew needs to break everything. But, all right, we have reached the point, ladies and gentlemen, where we have to play a game here on Bachelor Happy Hour because you know we love them. So we're basically going to be doing a round of rapid fire questions. You both can answer them, but it's all Bachelor style.

So it's going to be easy. So, for example, I'll start it off. Who is your Bachelor Nation crush? Oh, I know the answer, but I also don't want to be disrespectful. It's grocery store Joe, but I love, but I love Serena. Is that disrespectful? No, no, no, it is because I love them as a couple.

If you base it from From watching the show, I was like, oh my God, I love grocery store, Joe. But then I was like, I love Serena too. I want them to be together. Yeah. Yeah. So if we're going to go with that,

then I'll go Zach. Yeah, yeah. You kind of answered this earlier, but your favorite season. I know that we threw Pilot Pete in there. I think Hannah. I'm going to go Hannah. Yeah.

I thought she was a great bachelor. I really did. I just think we got a lot of like the cast of characters from that season and I remember has gone the podium movement and I remember going in Tyler season yeah I remember going into Hannah's season not being excited about Hannah Brown I think because everyone was like to she because remember they were joking around she didn't know how to speak she would and then when we saw it I thought she was right yeah all right who what is the most iconic moment in bachelor's nation for you it's got to be barb like that was insane

yes like that was crazy I don't know if that's iconic I don't know how to describe it besides being one of the craziest things we've seen I think mm-hmm oh truly I mean it was with a pair for goodness I really had to do this but I think the end of RECC is my most like what the fuck is happening right that one was nuts too

mine too mine too girlfriend that's all I said what the fuck that's what we were all thinking favorite limo entrance of all time gosh

there's so many I can't even I'd have to go like recent I liked the anybody that comes, I, this is just, I think it's just because recent, it's fresh in my brain. I've liked the sending someone on a tiny car and then sending someone in a big car. Like the firefighter, like sending someone on a tiny fire truck and then the giant fire truck. And then any people like, I like a good dirty joke.

Come with a good, like I liked Gabby's like Gabby's sit on your face joke. Oh yeah, that was that was good. I like a dirty joke. That was good. Yeah. The corny ones I can always do with that. Yeah. How do you feel about costumes? This isn't your part of our games. Do you like the costumes? I've always thought like a lot of times the costumes aren't necessarily maybe the person's choice.

I think it's unfair. Or like are given an idea. But yeah, like the guy in the box who did that. James, right? The guy. Yeah. So it's like when you're stuck in a box the whole time, that's funny. But Rodney, the Apple. Yeah. Like it did pay off for him. That is true. Right? I feel he's still going strong with that. Oh, yeah. For his birthday, that's all he got was like apple juice and apples and shit. If you can make it your brand, power to you. Yeah.

Rodney's actually coming out with his own brand of apples. You're going to be like seeing him to the grocery store sponsorship. Yes. Good old Trader Joe's. All right, Michelle, you want to take the next one? Yeah, of course. Who is the most underrated contestant? Should we give our?

friend Dylan. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. We'll say Dylan. Yeah. You know, Dylan and Dylan Barber? And that's solely just because he's our pal and he'll, he's going to love a, and I love a moment. I do think Dylan can be a menace on the internet, but in, in real life, I think he's funny. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he lives in San Diego. So you head out there. He'll be out there. Who is one couple that you really thought would make it? Yeah, I'll let you answer. this is an intense question oh my god damn it you answer oh i mean i have a bunch i think kately and sean were my first one where i had always felt like that would work now obviously like keel and jace are amazing so it all works out but um you know tation and zach

you really were you were pining for them i wanted them to work so badly they were afraid to tell me that like when the rumors started to come out that there was problems i was they were like they were like we're afraid to tell Fran that there's that there's problems i was rooting really really hard for those too yeah what about you do you have one wait who's a couple i don't have a lot of yeah rhea just assumes not like that but like i it's not like when it works out i'm like that's great but i'm not like oh my god they're all going to last forever who do you think this is so bad who's a couple that's currently together that you don't think will work out oh no please don't say Oh, no, no, that's definitely not going to say in the show.

A couple that's together. I'm trying to think of maybe. Oh, what's his niece? Anna and Chris Pukowski. Okay, the Chicago. Yeah. All right. They just announced that they were together, too, right?

They're probably, I'm brand new, but I think they've just made their public, they made their public announcement. That's a safe answer. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Okay. Okay. So, I really love.

dying to see on Paradise um I really want to see Teddy on Paradise I really want to see I'm trying to think of the other I want to see Serene on Paradise maybe Brandon Brandon oh the one from Rodney I would love to see

it's so hard to like think past the seasons that you just watched I'm like when they come up with other people I feel like they could always jump back into past seasons but I'm sure Get Chenet on there

I was going to say I'm sure Chenet is going to be there Oh yeah I'd be shocked if she's not Yeah she will One of the Michelle I'm trying to think of like the guys That caused issues on

On your season there is the one But he's not a girlfriend now Here wasn't the pizza guy Oh Peter the pizza guy Yes. Peter Martin Peter and Pizza. Jamie. Jamie has a girlfriend though now, right?

Or am I making that up? Does he? Oh, Martin. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't need to see any more of them.

No offense. I'm hoping for a. Okay, last. No, no, no. Who did Brandon love? Serene. I think I felt like he was, he was posting all those stories

during Clayton's season, like, rude. It was, it felt like he was like, I'm rooting for her, but I also don't want Clayton to pick her. You know what's so interesting is now that I'm on tour with some of these guys that are like the bachelor for the week, I'll talk to them and be like, would you ever consider going on Paradise? Like, you know, where's your head at? And a lot of them, they're considering it. But now they're like, well, people have gone on Instagram like Brandon and have like basically called dibs on people. So they're like, all the girls are spoken for.

And I'm like, that is bullshit. You make your own rules. You'll meet them. Just don't go in with a girlfriend ahead of time. Just don't plan it together. Exactly. Don't have anything in good for sure. For sure.

But, okay, last one for the game. Who is somebody that you would like to see be the next bachelor or bachelorette? Hmm. I'm trying to think of... I do think it would be, and this is not a specific person, but I do think it would be interesting.

And I feel like people will, we'll disagree with this to have somebody that's like really hated as the bachelor bachelor bachelor like yeah like a yeah like a today right because it's like people will watch they'll hate watch it and then they'll end up love watching it like they'll be like this is terrible but also awesome at the same time but yeah because it's like you don't yeah because you don't want to you have to watch like you have to know what's happening even if it's like they always pick people that everyone likes or most people like So it's like, what if they switch it up? And they were like, we're going to put a villain on here.

Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. And that would be interesting because then as the lead, like, you get a good edit most of the time. So maybe we would also. You would probably get a good edit. And then they would know what it feels like. Is that what you just said back?

Oh, they'd get people. They would get people. Yeah. People want screen time. They would for sure. And also think, I don't know if they'd get a love story. I think sometimes you could go on without knowing who the lead is. Oh, you know who's definitely also going to be on Paradise.

I feel like Aaron's going to go back and and James as a combo because I feel like that whole drama that we got right at the end for the after show stuff with Sheney trying to be like Genevieve and Aaron blah blah hooked up

like I feel like but then I feel like James is going to get sad and jealous so we got to find somebody for James too you know if his boy is dating her yeah it's going to be interesting and sometimes I do I don't know if they'll do it again if they'll ever do it again with the concept of bringing in a bachelor or a bachelor's that people haven't watched on a previous season.

But I do like that sometimes when they when they mixed it up. I know, you know, they did it with Matt even though whatever he was like supposed to be on Claire's season. But that didn't happen. Yes. Yeah. Well, before we let you guys go, we are going to do our rose and thorns of the week. And so let us know what you thought was your best moment of the week and what the messiest or

the most chaotic. Becca, do you want to start? yeah I'll start well I'm trying to think if I want to do this for myself personally or like skew it into like pop culture and reality TV but so for me I would say the rose is probably just still doing this tour and having the opportunity to meet some really great people and be in some really cool cities and my thorn is being away from my dockies I cry every night because I miss them so much cute dogs I have

That's it. Michelle, what about you? Yes. I would say my rose would be women's final fours in Minnesota, and so I was going to be in Minnesota by the time this airs. But just being able to do all these different events and motivational speaking and all these things that I love doing, my thorn would be that I actually ate a dog treat the other day. because I was so tired and I walked in the house and I grabbed like a handful of like

peanut um-and-ms like in this jar and I put it in my pocket, my winter coat pocket and then I forgot about it and later on I went and took one out but it was like Chief's dog's treats because like we went on a walk or whatever popped it in my mouth and it like took me a hot second to figure out what just happened. What did it taste like?

Like I don't know dog food tastes like it smells like. Like beef jerky kind of. No. Yeah. No. I had beef jerky. But like, the worst part of it all was that is when I realized what had happened, I was so grossed out, but I didn't spit it out. I like choked it down. I was like, no, gosh. It's like you're back on the show and they make you do some weird shit. Eating competition. Yeah. Not the best moment. All right. What about you two? My rose, I think, is the new logo and everything that, for six the office. Because. Good plug. Yeah. Good plug. I'm naming with a... I know, I know. We got new merch. We got a new logo. You laughed at me like that was crazy. I thought that was great. And I have black hair in the logo and I don't have black hair. And when I had black hair, I was going through a very depressing time. So I'm very happy that we changed the logo to now my hair color now, which is my favorite hair color. And my thorn would be Ubers. I really need to stop taking them when I don't have to. I need to just get on the train.

expensive now. And sitting in traffic makes my head fucking spin. We had an Uber driver trying to buy weed off yesterday. I had an Uber driver tried riding weed off this, which that's fine by me, but I just Uber's in general, like I just, I have to take the train when I can't. That's a good one. Yeah. Um, for me.

Okay. Uh, what was my rose this week? I had, I had nice, a nice time. I'd probably, I went to see a Broadway show. I feel like that's always a great. a great night um i went to see billy crystal's new show on broadway which was really cool and obviously like it's it's billy crystal so it was it was great um i was with you know people that i really like so that was great and thorn what is my thorn of the honestly been a it's been a pretty good week but i love that i know i know my thought it definitely is we've been we have been really

busy this week, which is good. It feels like we, uh, we've accomplished a lot. My, I will say, though, we are traveling a lot coming up and I was just looking at my schedule ahead. And I don't have like really too much time. My parents are in Florida now, so I don't see them. So I'm like, oh, I don't know when the next time I'm going to see my parents is. Like, it's going to be potentially more months. And I normally see them often. So I feel like very on par with like missing the dogs, that's kind of very similar. Missing the fam.

Well, maybe they'll go out to catch your West Coast tour. They would. I asked. Yeah. They're traveling. Well, Michelle will be there. They're traveling on their own. I'll fill in the room.

Yeah, exactly. Michelle and Nate will be our parents. Yeah. We got to. Yes. Share extra loud. Well, Rea, Fran, thank you both for being here. It was so much fun to see. you both again, come back anytime. And, you know, we're going to work on getting you a little hosting date or bartending in paradise if we can. We would love that. Everybody. And I'll let you plug this actually. So tell all of our listeners where they can find you on social and where

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And you can YouTube, subscribe to our YouTube, Chicks in the Office on YouTube. And that's where we do our cutting stems live after show, after every episode of the best of any Bachelor franchise show. And you can go back and watch those because they're still open. Thank you, guys. so much for having us on this is really fun of course thank you come back anytime we'll see you thanks guys that was so much fun i love i mean i love them i'm a fan i've listened to them for a while ever since i met them years ago and it's just such a blast having fellow podcasters on and the

fact that they paved their way through like bar stool sports this very maladominated force i'm so it's just fun to have women like that on um they're such a blast i'm really bummed i can't see their their west coast tour i know i'm really i really got to figure out a way to make it just because it seems like it'd be so entertaining and even now more so after interviewing them and chatting with them they are quite a hoot as you would say i don't think they like your signature line now there's no going back beka there's a hoot oh my gosh the minnesota you can take the girl out of minnesota but you can't take the Minnesota out of the girl. I know our podcasters are going to be like, stop.

We're just going to be like, oh, you betcha, Michelle. Hey, cute. I was actually telling everyone on my tour bus like different Minnesota phrases and they will not shut up about like making fun of me now, but whatever, I own it. I'm proud of where I came from. It has been so much fun. Thank you for another great week, Michelle. I love having you on.

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