Bachelor Happy Hour - Gabby & Rachel on Life Updates and the ‘Bachelorette’ Finale

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

Straight from sitting in the audience at “After the Final Rose,” today’s episode features a fabulously chaotic and fun convo with former Bachelorettes and two of our favorite gals, Gabby Windey and Rachel Recchia. In their conversation with Joe and Serena, the girls share their thoughts on everything that went down at Charity’s finale, the biggest differences from their season versus Charity’s, and why they are so excited to have Joey as the next Bachelor. Plus, Rachel teases a wilder summer in “Paradise” than the trailer showed and Gabby shares why, in her relationship with Robby Hoffman, she’s the happiest she’s ever been.   Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm here with my lovely co-host, Serena, my wife. Hello, I'm here. That's me. And the two former Bachelorette, Gabby and Rachel. Two failed bachelors. Yes, you are both. You are both huge failures. And that is. Thank you, Joe.

And that is what we're here to talk about today. So where did it all go wrong? Right at the beginning. Before it started. Oh, no. Okay. So tonight, what are our thoughts? What should we talk about first?

The finale just happened. Yeah, I know, but what are we thinking? Charity or Aaron B. What about Aaron B? How do we feel about that? I think it was desperate. I personally love Aaron. I spent some time with him.

I think I get where Gabby is coming from with what you just said. But I will say, I think there are times where we as leads have to make really hard decisions, not knowing a lot of facts. I did watch the season. The last episode, I think, with Charity and Xavier, that was insane. Yeah. I thought that was something like I've never seen before on this show. I've never seen that either. And I think of Charity maybe would have had this information going into the week of

overnights. She made a different decision. So it's just hard for me to say because we know what it's like not having every single detail. And you think you have this connection and you don't know everything. I don't know. Maybe the way he went about it was wrong. Just from a, like, watching. Yeah.

I'm speaking from a place of ignorance. I don't know. I'm coming in. Yes. But, like, he, Aaron was sent home at hometowns. And I think, like, I don't know. There's already whatever three contestants left. Like, if she's, like, gracefully sending you home, you're like,

oh, that was my chance. Thank you. but this is probably it for us. Like, I think there's some signs you can take from being clued in, like you're being sent home so she doesn't, like, necessarily want to continue on with you. So coming back to Fiji was a big risk. Right.

You don't have anything to lose, so you might as well. It didn't pay off, though. No, it didn't. And I think it didn't pay off right away. You could kind of tell coming from an outsider. But she did take him in. For one day. But she could have said no.

Yeah. But I will say, she did take him back. When she sent him home during hometowns, I would say out of the whole season, that was the most, like, uncertain. I think we saw her. Like, she was breaking down. She was super emotional. And she literally said to him, like, I don't even know why I'm doing this. Like, I can't give you a reason.

Like, I'm not even sure if I'm making the right decision. So I feel like there was, like, still that down his head on, like, what if she's sitting in Vigi being like, I shouldn't have done that. Which she might have been because Xavier and her were not going to work out at that point. Yeah. Maybe I will say just like, I don't know. And I can only speak for myself and that like I, I kind of knew, obviously, like going into hometowns. I only took three. Like my mental capacity and my heart can only take so much. So maybe I don't know who I'm like, whatever the four people I'm going to take to hometowns or two, but I knew there was a solid two. So like whether there's like kind of a third player, but not really like active. Yeah. Like even if that third person was like there was something there, like they would. We're on the same level as the others. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel the same way, Rachel?

It's hard for me because me and Gabby, I feel like we had such a different season where we really knew going into those overnights who our two were. I don't know what charity was going through as a solo bachelorette. Could you have had those feelings for poor people? Totally. We could never know. Because we were dividing 30 guys between, yeah, the two of us. Yeah.

going like Gabby said into my overnights did I know my two yeah yeah and overall I don't know charity seems happy so like what are we talking about Aaron for but yeah like watching the season like you said like there was that like little bit of room where maybe he could

have still been there and then watching what happened with Xavier I could see why maybe she would have taken him back in just to see if you've blown your ass all the way to Fiji like let's give it a few hours before I kick you off the island it's a grand gesture I I think as we do you want to see guys coming back and being like, I see you as the mother of my children, that's a huge gesture.

Yeah. We're over that. Let's go to. Enough of Erin. Yeah, I would say Joey first. So let's do the cover of the Joey breakup. That was so sad, actually. Okay.

The moment when she like started bringing me and he looked at her and was like, it's okay. like basically like it's okay like break my heart like just do it i was like oh that's so hard did either of you two feel that way on your season letting anyone go like was it that emotional for you i'll speak to like when i was in joey's position and it was never that easy i'm never going to show up and be like break my heart but i'm a little bit more of like a fighter and i think that's just like the difference in personality but for me i was so in it no matter what that's that I'm like, you were always going to hear from me. Like, if you're going to break my heart and you have something to say to me that I wasn't on the end with, like, it's not going to be okay.

Like, I have to say to you now. Exactly. You would never just know, like, like, we see Joey Beasley, he takes it and he accepts it and he leaves. Like, there's not a lot. There's no anger in it. You're real tough now, but on a paintball court, you really just. Yeah, no, paintball's different. Emotions are one thing, but painball, I don't fight gladly.

But I think, yeah, it shows, like, obvious. But I guess, again, like, I never really made it to proposals. Like, our journey was much different. So I was never totally in Joey's shoes. But I always remember thinking on Clayton's season and on my own, like, I wouldn't know what to do if there's two of us here because there's so much to talk about, like, for somebody showing up to proposals that if there's two people showing up to proposals, there's one. person you know that you are not going to say yes to. And like for me, that would always end either in like like heartbreak naturally, which I think Joey showed or, you know, on the other side. Like I went in being like, I will not have two men propose to me at the end because I think

like I, you know what I mean. But I think it's just like a difference in personality and our season was so different. So, but I think it was really big of Joey to be like, here's your out kind of like. I'm not going to like drag you through the mud right and like similar like to what you said it's so hard for us to even compare it because we never had those two guys telling our families like this is the mother of my children like I am in love it or I want to propose we both had people that had reservation so I guess we could never really compare our ending because we just only had one person who was like willing to do that for us and that's what we always say like everyone's journey is different because everyone is so different. Like you saw it obviously

we're going to be different than charity than the next and the next. And I think like everyone led with their heart and that's the most important thing. Do you think that Joey becoming the bachelor eases the heartbreak and makes it quicker to get over? I mean, I think so. Yeah. Because there's a lot of time that is past. There's like there's a lot of. There's a lot of between filming, airing, and then AFR, which is live. So he's had like a couple months to get over it to prepare. I don't know if tonight was the first time he found out. He was the bachelor.

I think we assume, but I also think he led on that he kind of knew before. Also, if he knows one of his good friends is with her and it's like, what are you going to do? Like, you can't really be like that upset over it. So, yeah. I think personally for me, I love to see a lead that did not want to be the lead. Like, I love watching someone who wanted to be with the Bachelorette. Because I feel like for me and Gabby, we stayed after having such a hard time at the Rose ceremony from hell, whatever you want to call it.

You make a good lead out of someone who never wants to be in that position because we wanted to be engaged. He wanted to be engaged. So I think that's the way, yeah, it eases the pain. It does. but you never want to see someone who was just there because they wanted to be in that position. And I think he's the perfect person because he clearly wanted to be with her. Yeah. And I think people's hearts then go out to him more because it's like he did almost have that love

story that he was there for and it didn't work out. And it's like now here's the second chance. Like you were in love with this person. You were ready. You were going to do it. Like you were going to get engaged to this person. And now it's like, okay. Yeah, I think it does ease the blow

Because it's like, here's hope for you to get it right this time. It was a moving on man, it's a mom. It's like a moving on person. Like we all need that to get over like our heartbreak. There's no chance with charity she's happily engaged. Like you have to move on. Yeah. All right, before we get into Charity and Datton,

what do we think about the two girls that were in the audience? We were watching the whole time on the side. Okay, now do we think, so let's, um, The blonde hair girl, is she out? So the two girls that were in the audience, Annie and Leia, Leah ended up getting called up, which did you guys expect one or the other? Like, what did? So I personally was like, there's no way they're just going to not take one of these girls.

They're going to take both. So when they called up Leia, I was like waiting for them to be like, ha-ha, like we're also calling up Annie. Did you guys have like, you thought they were going to pick one or the other or both? Well, we saw Annie coming up into the audience. like just like kind of being walked out late and we're like oh yeah that's the girl for sure so then when they were like okay one of the girls whatever introduced everybody and they were like it's annie and then me and rabbi were like breaking our necks like looking at annie and

she was like oh my gosh oh my gosh like had no idea we're like that's kind of cruel like if you think like because why else is she showing up you know what i mean like she's here under the premises that she could be on the next season obviously you're going to think it's you. She's a beautiful young woman. There's no reason. Like my gut instinct is like she's going to be called tomorrow and be like you're also on. I think so.

You just like weren't. I hope so. She's saying like I want it to be Joey. She's obviously super interested. And then it's not her. So I'm hopeful. I think she's got a better chance now too. I think she,

I personally think she has the better chance now. We love an underdog. She's the underdog. We love an underdog. Grushy sore Joe is the underdog. Underdog of Bachelor Nations. I'd be getting married next week.

Literally. Yeah. We might be. Annie. All right. Okay. Annie could be the next America's underdog. Yeah, she may be.

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I think it's just so. solid for Gabby and I, it was just a little bit different because I think we were still a little like on the fence and she just seems to know that he is the one. And I truly watching her feel like he is. Yeah. I agree. Yeah, totally. Like Charity and Dotton starting off on the right foot, that is like the most important. They look like they're so happy. It looks like he fully supports her. And really, that's like all you can ask is like he's just, just, like, loves her so much. Yeah, I feel like you really get a sense of, like, unwavering confidence from the both

of them about their relationship. Like, they just do seem very solid. And, like, they literally feel like they're, like, soulmade. Actually, yeah, it seems like they're just, like, made for one another. And charity got announced to me on Dancing with the Stars. Gabby, you did Dancing with the Stars. So did you, Joe. Yeah, too, Dancing with Stars.

There's icons in the room. He means Reina like, we're like, yeah, two champagne drinkers. He's so, like two fans. Yes. Of the icons. If Rachel and I know anything about D-N-2, the stars will be front row.

I, the best part of my wife was watching Gabby in the front row, so I'm so, like, I would never did it. You're the best. But I got to go to every single show for Gabby and to know that charity gets to experience the happiness. I think it brought Gabby

is amazing because I saw how much that helped you after our season. So do you have any, any tips for charity, Gabby, going into this season of life on the show to navigate, like, the demands of being on Days for the Stars and balancing a new relationship? I think, honestly, it really depends on charity. Location is a big deal. Obviously, dancing is in L.A. So I don't know if he's going to be able to relocate. with her if he can that'll be really important because you don't have a lot of free time on dancing with the stars um but you know their relationship seems so solid and it's like if you're meant to be you're meant to be and it's like there's no advice or anything that anyone can tell you to make it any different like if you're going to make it through it you will and i don't think dancing with the stars is a burden on a relationship i agree with that i agree because you'll you will focus on

your relationship if you want to bottom one yeah um rachel Can you tease a little bit? We see that you're in paradise. Are you just showing up? Are you hanging out? What are you doing? I'm in paradise. Okay.

It's so funny because it started off as something we would all like kind of talk about, joke about. And then it turned into something very real. And I can say my time in paradise was very real. I was very much there to find someone, genuinely so we'll see if I do and yeah who knows well I will say you guys found love in

paradise we did you two Becca and Thomas going into this I'm like if anything can work it's going to be paradise so let's try it

well for our listeners Rachel's sitting here right now wearing one of her own earrings and one of someone else's earrings I do we've got Braden on the right ear and Rachel on the left. So do with that what you will. We will see what happens. And Gabby, you are happy. You're in a relationship now. New one, right?

Yeah. Speaking of meant to be. Yeah. I know. I've never been happier I feel. I don't know. It feels like a huge weight has been lifted and just like life is easy for once in a relationship. I feel like I've never had that before. That's like the best feeling. Like Joe and I always just our relationship to this day is like so easy and I just feel like that's something that like you can't really like work to make it easy you know what I mean like it's either there it's not anyway I agree that I was very sweet Serena that was nice I've seen Gabby obviously in this setting engaged you've seen her in many relationships I've seen it Gabby in the relationship with Robbie. I've never seen her so happy. And it makes me want to cry because I'm like, I just want to

see her at the end of the day with the person she's supposed to be with. I want to like go through this trailer a little bit more for Paradise. Like there was so much to impact from the trailer in terms of like all these makeouts from all of these different people. Hannah Brown. Hannah Brown coming down. Katie coming down. We had a lot of like appearances of like are they here to date? Are They not. We had like, I can't even believe I'm saying this. We had a poop baby situation. Yeah.

Like the turtle was unhinged. It was absolutely uncalled for. Yeah. I didn't need that. No, literally the visual. I'm like, this is too much. And we have a wedding. And we was getting married.

Is it you two? Can confirm it was not us. We can confirm that it was, it was not us. It was not us there getting married. That hand was a little too pale for it to be mine. No, I had a lot of things. thoughts going into this trailer. What is it going to look like? I thought it was very underwhelming compared to what actually happened. But I feel like that's a good thing to hear

which is a good thing. Yes. I watched it and I was like, wait, where's the drama? Where's the crying? Because it's only overwhelming for you because you know how much craziness happens. I found it. I love the Paradise teasers. Like I have such a soft spot for Paradise. So I get excited always for them. So for you to say like as someone who was on the beach, it was like a little underwhelming, like that just goes to show like there's so much more to see this season. there is so so much more to see i am very excited for everyone to see it i think what aired is like completely like just very mild compared to what happened oh that's a good teaser i want to ask you rachel so what was your mindset like going in to paradise and like your

expectations and did that change while you were down there i think going in obviously looking at you too, looking at Becca and Thomas, we have tried every single avenue. And it really was a joke like going down to Paradise. I'm like, oh, I'll just go down. And then it became a real thing. And when I was there, I was serious about knowing what Paradise could be for couples like you and Mari and Kenny and Becca and Thomas. And I'm like, let's see if this could work.

So we'll see if it does. Who knows? Anything going to happen in paradise? Anything. I can't wait. Becca was the first lead ever to go onto paradise. Yes. Do you think that helped your decision?

Do you think that swayed you in any way? A thousand percent, the amount of times I say Becca in this season, people will be annoyed. Because I'm like, Becca and Thomas, like it didn't work for her on her season. What the hell? Not Serena and Joe? Oh, we know. We were never in leads. And I think.

I did talk to Becca, right, before coming down. And I had a long talk with her. And I was like, what do you think? What should I do? Because I didn't know if it was the wrong decision, truly. And she was like, Rachel, my time in paradise was the most fun I ever had. If you feel like you even a little bit when I do this, just give it a chance. And so obviously, our season didn't end the way I wanted it to.

I was fully single months before the world knew. So I was like, let's just see if this could work for me Because it worked for you And it worked for Rebecca And it worked for so many people And Abigail and Noah just got engaged And Hannah and Dylan are getting married this week You guys next week

So I'm like, if anything can work, it's paradise And Caitlin I'm coming up too I'm like Our season was wildly successful Yes If a marriage, if engagement works It's in paradise

That's what I want. So I said, let's go to Paradise. I love it. You're like not jaded at all. She was so supportive too. She was so happy. Of course. Yeah, but do you know what happens to her in Paradise?

No. Liar. She's winking. This is a podcast. They can't see that. Okay. What are you more excited to watch? Paradise or Gary the Golden Bachelor.

say me honestly obviously paradise because of Rachel every time you were on in the trailer I was like who clapping in the stands like kidding people

I'm like do you guys know who that is I'm sorry that's our bacheloret but what do you think a golden bachelor I think the editing looks incredible

it looks like wait so that's promo with no I know I love the edits no it looks like a movie in that house with his kids was like, I'm like, who is producing this?

Like, this doesn't even look like Bachelor. Like, it looks like a movie. They put a filter on it and you know what it works. They're choosing like some updated housing architecture. The quick edits really got you. It's working. As someone who's going to be in paradise, all it wants is for the audience to see the wholesome content of Golden Bachelor

and then for the next hour to be chaos. Yeah. And it will be. And that's what I want. Two hours. Exactly. All I want is for people to be crying and just feeling their feelings for Golden Bachelor and then for it to air us on the beach, all in one.

I don't think Golden Bachelor is going to be as wholesome as people think. I think it might be a little bit. I think they'll definitely be some wholesomeness, but I think they'll definitely be some nana-cattiness. And I'm here for that too. I want to see both. We'll see. We'll see.

Parents, hopefully. Ideally. All right. So I think that's pretty much it. We're going to wrap this thing up because everyone's got to go. Gabby told us she's got to go like five times already. So thank you guys so much for jumping on Happy Hour. And we can't wait to see what happens with the rest of your relationship. And Rachel, I don't know what the fuck's going to happen in Paradise with the way you teased it. So thank you guys. And to all our listeners, this was an exclusive special episode. So subscribe, download. We'd love. love having you guys and thank you so much. Thank you so much. We're so happy for both of you and be sure to tune in as we'll be dropping new episodes every week. Bye. Bye. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, we're not going to choose an adaptive strategy, is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome.

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