Bachelor Happy Hour - Gabi’s Our Comeback Queen

Episode Date: February 7, 2023

This week on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Gabi joins Becca and Michelle for a fun chat about her journey on “The Bachelor” so far. In their discussion, Gabi opens up about how not knowing the rules of football affected her performance in the Bachelor Bowl, why she felt good about her chances on night one despite not talking to Zach, and, of course, the hilarious “accident” that stole the show. Plus, Gabi reveals more details about what went down at the pool party and shares her strategy for staying out of the drama. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.  See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up? Happy Hour listeners. I'm Becca Kufrin. And I'm Michelle Yoh. And we are excited to be back with you again this week, getting into the third episode of The Bachelor. I feel like we're already like flying through this season. But I'm very excited to bring on our guest Gabby today.

Yes, we're so excited. We're going to be chatting with Gabby. hear all about her journey. It was a slow start, but now she's coming in hot, talking about the Bachelor Bowl and her connection with Zach. But first before we bring her on, Becca, I feel like I haven't seen you in a minute. How are you doing? Fill us in. I know. I feel like you have been traveling all. I'm like, I don't even know where Michelle is these days because you are bouncing between states. But I'm good. I have been traveling a little bit to this past week and I still have more upcoming travels for some really fun stuff that we will soon be announcing.

So stay tuned. Next week we'll probably be able to talk about it a little bit more on the podcast. But yeah, some really fun things in the works. And yeah, I was traveling this past weekend for my wine line at some events, which was so, so fun. So, yeah, life's going good. I feel like we're starting to kind of pick up this new year and bounce around and just get going. How are you? Okay.

I love that. I'm so excited to now hear what you're going to be bringing up. I'll definitely be checking back in next week with that one. But for me, things have been good. I feel like every time I hop on bachelor happy hour, I'm in a different state right now coming from Arizona. So I'm going to be here for some Super Bowl activities. And you said that you're going to be in the area tomorrow, right? I'm also coming to Arizona.

I feel like just going back to you being in a new state all the time, it's like where in the world is Carmen San Diego? that is you. I'm like, where in the country is Michelle Young these days? But yeah, we'll both be in Arizona for different fun things. I didn't even realize. So like, you know, me, I don't watch sports. So I just found out yesterday that the Super Bowl is in Arizona. Also, the waste management tournament is happening the same time. So it is going to be crazy town. And I mean, you're there early. Like, is it already starting to get like super busy there? Okay, so I'm, right now, I'm located like in old town, Scottsdale. So the Super Bowl tailgate, everything that's taking place is legitimately in my backyard, like 10 steps to the right. And so it's pretty cool. And so last night, one of my girlfriends and I were just walking around. And it's like a ghost town, but with everything starting to be like set up. And so I'm sure in the next day or two, everything's going to start to get a little bit more lively.

but it's like this calm before the storm but it is going to be fun like you said waste management's going on so there's a lot of events going on with that it's like Phoenix's own or Arizona's own Super Bowl within a Super Bowl and so

it's going to be a lot so much but it's going to be so fun let's get into the episode really quick before Gabby hops on what were your overall overall thoughts on this week three? And like, do you have any predictions? I know I asked you this last week of like any standouts or people that you think like are going to make it through

till the end? I can't even remember what I responded with or who I responded with last week because I do feel like it changes so quickly. Like there is, that's just how Bachelor world works. When you're in it and when you're watching it, one minute you can absolutely like, yeah, this is the person and then it can completely get flipped around. But I'll say that, Charity, I feel like charity is just so genuine. I feel like she's going to make it so far. She's like my number one right now. She's who I want to make it to the end.

But if she doesn't end up with Zach or if it's not the right, if it's not the right fit, that's my pick, Bachelorette. Like I'm calling it now. Yeah. And I'm not calling it in the sense of like I'm predicting it. No. She needs to be the Bachelorette. Like I'm nominating her. Yes.

I stand by that. I really enjoy her. And this week, when I was so happy she got that group date Rose, but then when Christina kind of stole that moment, I was like, nobody makes my baby cry. I was, I had like this like guard dog like mama bear mentality for her, where I was like, that is not okay. And so, yeah, I agree, though.

She's really standing out to me. I'm trying to think of who else right now. I mean, like, just going off of dates, I think he's very into Katie. I think that they are both like fair. They have like a very similar mentality and like way of doing life, it seems or like approaching conversations. Like they're very both like even keeled like very chill, kind of calm, like very similar demeanors. Right.

In a genuine way. Yeah, Katie I think just like Katie seems like chill and fun and like honestly like just like just as it. viewer. I feel like if Katie and Zach were to meet out at a bar, away from this television show, they would actually hit it off and, like, be interested in one another and want to pursue one another. It just seems like that kind

of fit. 100%. Okay, I have to jump back and ask you this question. At the beginning of the episode, there was this quick overnight. Yes. What were your thoughts when you're watching that? Because when I was watching this, I was like, if I was on the day,

it'd be like, that's amazing. But then back home, what a way to just totally get a massive mind fuck already so early in the process. I would have been pissed. I will say I would have died for that date at the museum. I would have loved it. Do you, did you throw back to old school books and movies? Did you ever watch or read the night at the museum? No, like the mix-up files of Basley Frankweiler?

I have no idea what that is. I've never heard of that. Wait, it wasn't the mixed-up file. Something, Basley, Frankweiler. Okay, if please DM me, if you know what I'm talking about. It was a book. They made it into a movie. It's basically about this brother and sister who run away from home.

They go and live in this museum for a while. They, like, sleep in Marie Antoinette's bed, and they, like, have to bathe in the fountains that are there. It was, like, one of my favorites. My sister and I would go to the library and rent it all the time. But that is what I'm picturing when they had this date. I was like, this is my childhood dream. I would have loved this date.

And honestly, like, the sleepover part, here's what I'm thinking. And maybe it's just because I know, like, the ins and the outs, they probably got 37 minutes of sleep. Like, they probably filmed for so long. Production was probably like, okay, take a little nap and we got to get back to the house at, like, 8 a.m. Like, they probably actually didn't sleep. But, like, right, because, but, like, in fantasy, fantasy suites, like, you really don't sleep that much. What I'm curious about, though, is, like, do you think they actually got any off-camera time together like you do in fantasy suites? I'm sure they got a little bit.

I'm sure they did just because, like, let's be honest, like, their crew needs to sleep and take breaks, too. Right. So I really don't think, like, and I don't think it was, like, long. And I'm sure there's people, like, kind of around still outside of the tent. But I don't think. That was so creepy. I don't think they were like, somebody was in their tent with them the entire time. time but yeah um okay but i also want to ask you about one more thing too so you mentioned problematic

behavior so we need to just bring up this really quick before gabby hops on but the whole christina situation between not only briana but some of the other girls um we see like little comments throughout the episode like little digs little i think just moments that she gets under people's skin what were your thoughts on that and were you surprised that zach actually ended up sending her home when he did and like didn't just keep her around another week to see what would happen yeah i honestly i mean you and i have kind of spoken about how we thought yeah or we thought christina was just you know like going to be this she's funny she's she's she's the one talking about all these things with the off camera like shots or you not off camera but she's she's the one that

was in the bloopers or just like the little after conversations once the credits roll right like that's where we really saw a lot of personality but I will say that after this last episode it very much comes off as like read the room like let's be considered about other people's feelings and so it's already uncomfortable you have to talk about different details of the date like that's how the show works it's really awkward as it is and a lot of times I can see that there's almost oversharing where it's you you can answer a question but you also don't have to continuously bring your like relationship to the forefront and wave it around in everybody's face and that's what at this point I felt like was being done and so for me I'm like yeah I don't like that it's it's it gets old

it's uncomfortable um and even that whole situation where charity got this group date rose and then the whole moment was completely just wiped wiped out you know where she expected everybody's support when she came home from meeting Zach's family on the one-on-one and she, the girl supported her and listened to her and for her to then take someone out after they get a group date rose, it's like, you can't ask people to support you

and then you come and pull this moment away from somebody else. I didn't like it. I didn't. That's not how I roll. So I was happy to see that Zach sent her home, but I also will say that Zach really is

eliminating anybody who's problematic or if he really doesn't see a future, he seems to have a strong gut reading. Yeah. And to let him go pretty early on, which is he's decisive. I will say, like, I actually appreciated that because I was like, we don't need to keep her around. Especially if, like, you know, it's not just a one-time instance. It's not just with one person. It's with multiple. I totally respect that decision. And also, like, I think the thing that really rubbed me the wrong way was the whole charity situation where she's like that's weird I don't understand it I wanted to go through the screen like it's not for you to understand like this is Zach's journey he's the one here trying to find somebody and if he she's not seeing these other conversations with other women so

you don't have to understand it but you don't have to take away and shine such a negative light to somebody else like let that girl have this moment like it's very fleeting in this bachelor world because so many other group dates come out and it's just there's so much. transition that I was like let her just appreciate it and just close your mouth at some points like things are funny and it's okay to be loud and boisterous but there are also times we're just like you said read the room take a step back and just but you know actually that's why I'm excited to bring Gabby on because she lived with everyone she witnessed all of this so I do want to just pick her brain and see kind of like not that there was size but just kind of see like her take

on things and if it did seem as heightened as it was like during that pool party. So I think with that, we should just bring Gabby on right now. Absolutely. Well, welcome Gabby to Happy Hour. Obviously this is your first time hopping on here.

Have you done any other podcast before? I've never done a podcast. So thank you for having me. I apologize if I have any nervous shitters. but I'm super excited. I'm absolutely not. It's girl chat. It totally girl chat.

But for those who are listening, can't see this right now. Gabby is in the middle of her workday, and she's in her office, correct? I love this, though. I love a focused queen. That's amazing. Yep, the grind doesn't stop.

So here we are. She came in hot, professional with the blazer. We love a good blazer look. It sure does. So just to start, Gabby, catch us up on how you're doing, How has it been watching yourself back on TV? I'm sure it's kind of weird and unsettling at times.

Yeah, it's been kind of funny because I remember how I felt like, and you all can relate to this, like how you feel in the moment versus watching it on TV all back. You like, it's totally different. But it's kind of funny. I've been watching with my close friends and they just kind of chuckle at me. And they're like, yeah, you're being so yourself. And I'm like, well, that's all you can be. So, I mean, it's been really positive, at least for me and my experience so far.

So it's been weird, but exciting. I think that's one of the best things, though, is a lot of people get negative reactions, like internal negative reactions watching it back because the camera can kind of be or the show can kind of be a mirror sometimes. And if you lose your way while you're there and you're not yourself, then when you're watching it back, you're like almost not necessarily cringing right but you're like uncomfortable whereas i love hearing that your friends and just like the people around junior yourself are like okay i'm totally i was totally 100% myself yeah i i didn't want to have any regrets and you know it it felt weird at first and it took me a long time to like not a long time a long time in bachelor world

to get used to um the cameras being around and i think that you can really see that and i know like it's kind of like people are joking on the internet like gabby had a comeback um in the last episode but it it took an adjustment for me to like be okay with the cameras there and like I was still being myself but it was a lot of stimulation and it was a lot to handle and to process and to like regulate all my emotions it was a learning curve in a really weird way but I feel like every side that people saw people are like probably like Gabby is all over the place yes I am

but it was all me so but it's real and and like I'm I can understand the cameras and just like the crew being around because it's a lot of people and like it's not until you step out of the limo that night one where you're like holy shit like I did not know

what I was signing up for but not only that like also living with 20 30 girls is a lot too so many different personalities. It's hard at times, like, especially right away to even speak and, like, feel like you have a moment when there's so much going on. So I'm sure that had a plane too, where there's just like so many people, so many personalities and of course, like trying to fight for the same guy. So I want to know, though, like getting on to Zach's season, were you a

fan of the show before? How did you get cast? Like, what was that process for you? Yeah. So before I went on the show, I actually had gone through a pretty bad breakup. I dated this guy for a few years. And it was just, it wasn't the most healthy relationship. And so the breakup was really hard on me. I felt like I had invested a lot of my time and effort and energy into it. And coming out of it, I was heartbroken. And my friends saw me like that. And they were like, yeah, you have so much to give. So they all nominated me to go on the show. They're like, you'll be perfect for this. You have to like just at least try. And I was like, okay, I'm not sure. But I spent a lot of time investing in therapy and investing in myself and healing. And obviously a healing journey. It's not,

you know, all of a sudden you're healed. But I knew what I wanted. And I was able to really discover that through therapy of like what did worthwhile love look like to me. and obviously trying to find it myself didn't really work out. And so I went on the show. I didn't, I'd watch a few seasons, but I didn't, I'm not like a diehard bachelor fan, but my sister loved The Bachelor. She always would watch with my grandma, which is really funny. So she was very supportive of me going on the show.

And she was like, Gabby, you just, you've got to do it. And so I was definitely nervous because I had been so heartbroken. But, you know, like, you can't just stop trying in life. So I put myself out there. Couldn't believe it when I got the call. Like, hey, we want you to be on the show. I was like, wait, what? I wasn't expecting that.

But I'm so, so grateful that I went through with it. Well, we're incredibly happy that you also said yes, because then we can get to watch you on our screens every week. So you get here, you get to the Bachelor Mansion. It's night one taking it. from the top, you exit the limo, and you hand Zach maple syrup. Yes. I saw this going differently in my head.

Okay, wait, take us from the, what, how did you want it to go? Or how did you see it in your head first? Well, I consider myself kind of like Buddy the Elf, if you guys have seen that movie, I would assume. And, you know, syrup is one of the four main food groups. Um, and as a Vermonter, like, my favorite thing to do is like, take my friends who visit me to like a maple syrup farm and have them try all the syrups and like as a child growing up, going to the maple syrup farm and tasting the syrups was like my favorite thing to do. And, um, I just felt like it was like a piece of home with me. And it's so sweet and delicious. I was not expecting him to not like it. But I thought he was going to throw up. Honestly, I was. I was. I think you can hear me say, like, I didn't like that face. He did not like it.

Well, does he not like pancakes or waffles? Like, does he eat them plain? Because I'm thinking, like, like, syrup's not that, like, not polarizing of a thing to drink. Like, if we're talking about, like, taking shots of something, you'd think that would be the most tolerable. I'm like, I didn't give you alcohol. Like, I feel like this is, like, the win here. But no, the preference, I guess, for people who aren't. from, you know, Canada or Vermont, it's fake maple syrup.

So, yeah, that was really disappointing. Oh, so, okay. Wow. Well, so do you feel like you should have brought something for him to put the syrup on? Probably. Like your lips. Yeah, no, I should have just put it all over me and then like, here. Here you go, looking off here.

How do you like it now? Okay, so this man tries the syrup. He doesn't like it. you're not really sure how it goes you get into the the whole night one and you didn't get to talk to him were you like holy shit i'm going home because of maple syrup or what like honestly i thought the maple syrup maybe was what might save me because i was like well he didn't like it but he probably remembers it so at least we have that so i didn't get to talk to him but i wasn't the only one who didn't get to talk to him and you know we had a fluid conversation when I first got out of the limo and I was like

you know what that was really easy we spent like two minutes standing there talking to one another and I was like you know some of these girls are only getting two minutes so maybe it's not the end of the world maybe it's enough to keep you around um but it was definitely scary but I think you get to some point in the night and you're like it's so you know it's so late and I'm so tired and I remember I wore my shoes all night long and they were aggressively tall like probably like six or so inches which was terrible idea

not smart on my part but I wore them all night just in case I would get a chance to talk to him didn't happen yeah it was it was stressful but I just kind of remained hopeful like well maybe he'll remember me from the maple syrup shit who needs an energy drink I've got the sugar.

Scrutis, we got Maple City. Okay, so how did you feel then standing at that rose ceremony? Obviously, not being able to chat with him besides that very first interaction. He does call your name. You do get a rose. What was that feeling like? Wow. As you guys probably saw, my reaction was like, oh, like, wasn't expecting that.

And then I walked over and, yeah, I actually tried to grab the rose from him. and that's yeah and then i was like obviously of course um so i was surprised i was surprised but like really eager and really excited um but it was i knew i was with like as the names were getting called there was other girls who hadn't talked to him yet so i was hopeful i was like okay like trying to do the math of my head i was like okay we have this many roses this many girls haven't spoken to him okay now two girls have been called who haven't spoken to him does that leave how many girls i was like doing math in my head that didn't make any sense at all um but i was i was pleasantly surprised when he called my name yeah it was a key moment i liked your reaction

it was so just genuine i was oh i like her it really was yeah it was definitely a let's quickly talk about last week because you become one of the standouts for sure you you have this one-on-one time was Zach it was so sweet and you seemed like you were nervous and because you were worried that he was coming off as like the Gabby show but can you tell us a little bit more of like that first one-on-one combo with Zach? Yeah um it was a lot um I think you know being the second group date you have that anticipation where you're kind of waiting around you're hearing like okay I've heard about the one-on-one I've heard about the group date we have two rosins given out and now it's finally our time to go on our date with him but it felt like

I was so behind everyone else at that moment because he had already had all these other conversations right that's like 13 14 women he's had one-on-one conversations with and so I was like I don't know if I can catch up like they had the first night now they've had these dates um and so I got a little bit in my head, to be honest with you. And I think the environment, like I said earlier, it's very overstimulating. And I have ADHD, which I'm totally comfortable talking about. And I, you know, I'm very aware of it. But there's a lot of emotional regulation that you have to like work on. And that's something I've been working on for years. But when you're in an environment that's so overstimulating, it can be really difficult to find that regulation of your emotion.

And so for me, you know, finally getting the opportunity to sit down and talk to him, it's late, I'm tired, you know, there's a lot of comparison you're doing. There's a lot of sensitivities you're feeling. And then there's on top of that, there's distractions of the environment just in itself. And so, you know, I had all these things I wanted to probably talk to him about. And I came up with nicknames. Don't know where that came from. I do love nicknames. And I give everyone nicknames. Um, but that's probably like more, it gives some context to the roller coaster that people saw of like my emotions. And then the emotions that came after that conversation of the like sensitivity, um, because emotions take you really hard and really fast when you're ADHD. And so a lot of people maybe don't understand that or know that. Um, but I'm, I'm comfortable talking about that. But I think it does help people understand like, okay, how did you do a 180 when you talked to him before the rose ceremony? because I figured out, okay, what do you need to do to regulate your emotions in this kind of environment? And I'm so grateful that I have had the tools and the therapy and the psychiatrist to teach me those tools to be able to do that. But it was a lot in the beginning. So there's a very

long-winded answer for you all. But that's how I was feeling. Yeah. It made a lot of sense. I actually really appreciate you to explaining that and just being vulnerable to share that side of things because I think that's a perspective that a lot of people who aren't dealing with you know anything or dealing with similar similar things might not think about and you add the learning curve of just like you said the cameras the lack of sleep just all the commotion that's going on it would that adds a whole different layer yeah but you did land on zaki poo and I feel like it's stuck correct I like yeah Zach I like it too I think it's you he didn't seemed like he really liked it and I was like come on man like this gives you some edge like

it's cute it's sweet it's endearing um okay so I want to then go into you just you know like obviously it was kind of a roller coaster that first conversation and I'm sure also too like hearing how other conversations with the woman went like hearing if he kissed them or not plays a huge role into that and kind of like the comparison of like okay feel behind already maybe I'm getting more behind but you did turn it around because the next sign at that cocktail party, you, I loved this. The peanut butter cups was so cute, a little lady in the tramp style move. How did you feel when you finally had like the real conversation with him? And then you got that kiss. What was that like? It was so reassuring. And like, I was like,

finally. Like, I can take a deep breath. Like, finally, I feel like that was a normal conversation that wasn't forced. It wasn't, like, awkward. It wasn't. It wasn't. intimidating it just felt like finally and I could like take that deep breath um you know I think leading up to that I kind of got to a point where I was like you know you just need to like relax take a deep breath and like try to just focus on this one thing and that's what I did and it just felt very finally felt like natural um yeah and not as distracted. Give us the deets. I need to know. Is Zach a good kisser, a decent kisser, a me?

Like, I really want to know. Like genuinely. Yes, be honest. You won't get in trouble if you tell us the truth. Well, our kiss was a little bit peanut buttery, which was, I mean, it's an acquired taste that I love. I'd say that's a bonus. I think so too. I was like, yeah, a little peanut butter, a little chocolate. I love it. No, I thought we had a good kiss. Like, rating it on the scale of first kisses, it was long anticipated.

I don't think I've ever been that nervous for our first kiss in my whole life. But I thought it was pretty good. What I will say about Zach is I think his kissing style is very accommodating to the, other person that's a compliment that's a huge compliment I think he catches a vibe because I was obviously you guys saw us talking about you know do you use tongue do you not use tongue like I think he's good at like reading the room or reading the lips like the kissing chemistry and what's going on yes I think he he knows how to catch a vibe that's a that's a we we like an accommodating man I like that okay he adapts okay so this week you play

played in like a long standing bachelor tradition the bachelor bowl and when you pulled up to the field what were your first thoughts with what was happening what was going to be expected on the date um well i was very nervous i knew it was football i i knew the second we got that day car i was like there's too many girls on here for it to not be the bachelor bowl was it was it like were you excited about that or you're like oh crap are you athletic like do you consider yourself athletic Um, does that face say it all? Um, okay. So I would say I work out and I am athletic, but I'm not aggressive. So for me, the idea of like being aggressive and like tackling someone is not. Like let's say we're doing like a race or like an obstacle course. Hell yeah. I'm in there like swimwear like I will dominate. But. the idea of tackling people and then being tackled, that was a lot. And I was not ready for it. Well, and there was, there was extra stakes because he told you, whatever team wins, gets to go to the cocktail party.

Whoever loses has to go home, Sayanara. So like, did that change your mindset going in? I'm sure it did in some capacity. But like, when you heard that, what was going through your head? Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, perfect. Like another missed opportunity to. like progress my relationship with Zach like no way there's absolutely no way well there was a way um yeah so I was stressed I was angry I was like are you kidding like now another after party that I might not attend so that we can get even more behind yeah so it was it was like a lot it's a lot of emotion okay so were you confident with like your team like who is on remind us who is on your team well Um, we had me, Davia, Jen, um, Greer, Anastasia, and who am I missing?

Oh, um, Brianna. I think that was it. Okay. Quite sure. Who did you think was going to be like the, if you were to choose like a captain of your, the yellow team, who would have been? Or like, who was like? Jen was our MVP all the way. She is very athletic.

She knows football. So she was like, and I think, see, we didn't have any workout girlies on our season, I guess, besides Christina did CrossFit. And then Jen was very athletic. And then I somehow got looped in as like one of those workout girlies. I was like, I work out, but like I'm not, I'm not a football girl. And so I think Jen really thought that I was going to help her a lot with knowing football, but she was telling us all these plays. and I was like, that sounds awesome, not sure what you're saying, you're speaking a different language. And you can see, like, you'll see, it's very obvious. I do not know football.

Because in the beginning of the game, I remember, I didn't know that you were supposed to, like, touch the ball. I thought you were not supposed to touch the ball. Wait, what do you mean? Like, not touch the ball. Came up with that somewhere. So I ran away from the ball. I literally would be you. I feel like during this group date, I would be the same way. I'd be like, I'm just going to go stand over here. I'm going to fake an injury so I can hang out with Zachy Pooh.

You would be the one to faking, you'd be the one to faking an injury with us? No, I'd actually probably stay in the game. And I would, it would take me a little bit to get, like, acclimated into it, but I'd probably then be like, I'm going to fucking hit out everyone, get my aggression out. But I just want to clarify for everyone because I was like, who is Jen? Like, I don't remember a Jen. Genevievee is who you're talking about who's on your team. And she did see and out, like, watching the episode, she did very, very well.

So just for the listeners who's like, if you're like me and I'm like, I don't know who Jen is. It's Genevie. Okay, Gabby, I also relate to you in this scenario about the peeing the pants, okay? And I'm not sure if you were embarrassed about that or not. But when I was watching you, I'm like, we have all been there. If you have not peed your pants a little bit at some point, whether it's playing a game, whether it's like when you're dancing, like your line if you haven't peed your pants a little bit. So honestly, I don't think you should be embarrassed at all about

it. Did you think that that part was going to be shown? Like, you know, we're always miced up, but there's like some things that you don't think like we'll ever err. Did you think that they would show that? I was quite confident that that would be shown. I went into the day and I was Like, yeah, like, I'm going to put my body on the line and I'm going to crush this. Like, I'm going to get aggressive if I have to. Like, I'm just going to come out of my shell and be, you know, a football player for the day. Well, you know, there was other plans for me. That, that blunt force that pulled me down, it was so hard.

And I was also nervous. Like, you think, like, okay, I'm staying hydrated because we're in the California sun. then I've got these nerves and jitters because the boy I like is watching me try to catch a football run across the field like there's a lot going on the nerves were giving me the nervous peas in itself and then you throw me to the ground yeah it was bad but have no fear I've consulted my doctor we are good everything is good we're working on it yeah so I'm recovering it's either going to happen now or when you have kids And honestly, your team might not have one, but you definitely won the relatable card. So cheers to you for that. Thank you. I'm actually kind of glad that they showed at because I feel like every episode we get like clips of like realness. And, you know, I feel like there's things that people don't always want to talk about.

And so I'm so glad that that was. It was a highlight reel. It was 100% the highlight real. Yeah. No. I thought it was, I think it's funny. I mean, I couldn't help it. I mean, it was honestly like a little bit alarming to me.

Initially, I was like, oh my God, Frank, I just seemed a little bit. That was hard. Yeah. So I got tackled twice, like really hard and that was one of them and that did occur. I mean, you guys really did give it your best effort though, but unfortunately, the yellow team fell short that day. How disappointing was it that you would not be able to go to this after party? It was very disappointing, not only like emotionally, but like physically I was drained. and hurting like i hyper extended my knee and i was like i was like oh this hurts and anyone

this sounds silly but anyone who has dipped nails will understand this i had three of them ripped off and my fingers were like throbbing um from that i just also peed my pants so like there were so many emotions i was feeling and then you don't get to talk to the guy who you just put it all out there for um but i think he saw our effort So I at least left like knowing like, okay, you put it all out there. You tried your best. Like there's only so much you can do. But it was super disappointing. Yeah. Yeah. The end to an already rough day date. It's hopefully you guys just were able to get home, shower, drink a lot of wine so you couldn't feel the pain as much. But okay. So that night, you know, half of you went home, half still went to the date. And, um, um, It was in the middle of that cocktail party, well, not cocktail party, but like that evening portion that you guys saw Bailey's suitcase being wheeled out of the mansion. Did you expect that? Like, did you think that they had a stronger connection and were you very surprised in that moment?

I was very surprised by Bailey leaving. I mean, when we were, so actually what happened, like the way I found out is I, I, I, I, I was. I got up really early that next morning and somebody else was up super early before the other girls. And it was almost like word of mouth, like somebody told me. So I didn't know all of the details, but I heard about it. And I was just like initially so shocked. And I think that's just because she, I mean, she's so cool and so beautiful. And like it seemed like they had a great connection.

And from everything you hear, and that's every girl, right, talking about their relationship with someone else. or with Zach you know they're explaining in you're hearing the highlights of it right you're not necessarily hearing all the like negatives or you know the parts where it's like not going super awesome so I probably didn't know all the details or the nuances of how their conversations were going but from an outsider's perspective I was absolutely shocked to see her go and really sad because she was you know so fun it's sad to see any girl go and so you lose a friend and then you're also like, you know what happened.

So it's so many emotions. Who were you really close with in the house? Like either night one throughout and like even now, who would you say like your best friends from the show are? I think we were so lucky with our group of girls. The girls are all so cool, so nice. And I'm friends with everyone pretty much. I would consider myself friends with everyone.

I think initially I really clicked with Jess and Katie. Um, and Ariel, those are two of, or two or three of the girls that I felt like, oh, I really, I really get these girls and they really get me. And we, it felt like I had known them for a really long time. But overall, all of the girls are just great. Mm-hmm. That's so nice to hear. We do like the camaraderie. We're seeing this, the season. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like you guys have each other's back for sure. Yeah. It was like, I was so scared because I watched, um, in season before. Um, to get outfit inspiration of all things. And I was, smart. Sorry. Oh, my God. Are, am I about to get like bullied, like crazy bullied on the show? I was super scared. But no, we didn't. It wasn't like that. The girls were so great. So it seems like, okay, let's get into this pool party and some of, not even like major, major drama, but like there was a situation between, uh, not crystal, Christina and, you know, Brianna and some of the other women, just from your standpoint, since you lived

with everyone, can you just speak a little bit about that whole scenario? Like, did you witness Christina, like, ever being too much, like, too open about her relationship with Zach and, like, kind of putting anyone else down? Yeah, I think for me, I was so hyperfixing on, like, my relationship with Zach and probably a little bit in my own world of you know I need to figure out like how I'm going to progress my relationship I was a little bit focused on that but obviously like these things happen and you have to be aware of them because it's all around you so when everything happened that pool party it was very disappointing because we were having such a fun day And I think that, you know, people do have personalities and not everyone is going to click.

Like you put 30 women together, there's no way everyone clicks with one another. And personalities and, you know, the way people speak are, it's going to clash. And that's just human nature. So it was unfortunate because I think it really took away from the fun of like the date and the day we were all having to But I think that it's necessary, you know, if you're feeling a certain way to feel safe with your partner to go and have those conversations. And I think we are all adults. So having those conversations with other adults, that is important. Like how can you, you know, it's only your problem unless you make it someone else's. And so I think that those conversations needed to happen. But it was definitely a little bit disappointing. But people have personalities. And. Not everyone will mash. So throughout that day, when things started to get more tense and, you know, Brianna, like, take it to the moment, like, Brianna just left. And all of the women are sitting together, you know, you're all hanging out.

Zach comes in and he basically addresses the situation of like, why she went home and that there, he mentions there's somebody in the mansion that's kind of robbing some, like multiple, not just Brianna, but multiple women the wrong way and making comments and just kind of putting them down. and making them feel uncomfortable. It seemed, and this, and this just could be, like, kind of what was shown, but, like, as a viewer, it seems like when you're all together and Christina's sitting there, it, like, it didn't really seem like she was aware that it would have been directed towards her. You know, obviously right after that, he pulled her aside to have a conversation, but at any point, like, were you aware that she was the one making some people feel uncomfortable and that she would be the one that he would pull or, like, what was going through your mind? Were you like, oh, it might be somebody else? it could be her like where was your head at so i do remember in that moment you know it wasn't clear if it was like one person or multiple people and that was like giving me some confusion um but i also remember you know the girls saying we and i tried as remain switzerland i'm just

going to say that like i tried to stay out of the drama but like obviously you hear things and you hear people talking you're living in a house together but I knew that there had been something at the date like the cocktail party where I wasn't because it was after the football game and we had lost and I know that there was some like tensions from that and but I didn't know like all the context all the details and honestly like like I said like I was focused on my relationship with Zach so not the time or place where I was like you know what I'm about to get myself all into this drama and like what's going on so i tried to like take a step back and let everyone figure it out

as adults and have conversations that needed to be had but stay out of it so i knew that there was already tensions though between maybe more than one person but i didn't know how it's all going to unfold would you say that you were busy daydreaming about spreading sunscreen over zack at the beginning of the pool party for sure how did you look out with that yeah yeah Tell us about that. Well, guys, you've got to jump at your opportunities. You jumped and I loved it. I seemed to have a few and far between of them in the beginning.

So, yeah, no, I saw that sunscreen. He said, I'm going to get a sunburn. And I said, well, let me help you with that. You know, got to protect my man. And then the sunscreen just magically appears in your hand. Yeah. It was right on the table. I was like, oh, it's perfect right here.

Let me just put this all over you. I did put a little bit too much. I think you just like that. Can you chill? It's okay, an extra rub down. I would do the same. I was going to say, you're going to spend more time letting it soak in, you know? I would have rubbed sunscreen on Zach, but I would say that. If the person who I was going after, just dumped the whole bottle. Yeah, I was like, I'm just going to put as much on there so I can just keep touching you.

Yeah. No, it was a great opportunity. You stole it, and I love to see it. um okay before we get into the next part of this interview i mean it was a wild week in bachelor mansion we saw a couple girls go home like not even at the roast ceremony there was only christina who went home at the rose ceremony um so fast forward to like the rest of the season without giving too much away can you tease anything fun of what's to come like what we can expect um that's tough not teasing too much I think that

this season you will see a lot of love and you'll see a lot of emotions and probably some of the most genuine people like you'll get to know some of the most genuine people

that I've ever met and I do think that there is a lot of love between the girls with Zach and I think it's like a really unique it's a unique season from what I've seen of the other seasons um I think this is a special season oh special season I like it I'll take it very much so well Gabby we've enjoyed chatting with you so much today and before we let you go we're going to play a quick round of something called rapid fire so we're going to give you questions just to get to know you a little bit more emphasis on the word rapid so you don't

have to give an explanation just your answer and beck and i will swap back and forth asking you questions are you ready to go i'm ready okay here we go are you an early riser or a night owl oh my god depends on the day okay all right we'll take it what is the best dating advice you've ever received? You can't change people. What is your go-to pizza order? I'm really boring. I just like

cheese. Can't go wrong. What is one word that your best friends would use to describe you? quirky. What is your favorite curse word? You can say

too you can say everyone gets caught up on this one I have some weird words I say like that aren't cuss words that are cuss words and then I also use cuss words um I probably say I drop the f-bomb a lot which is pretty bad I need to work on that

and then you're your your it's therapeutic um I say oh my god there's so many things I say like I say like I say fudge a lot but that's not one of the weird ones but like i'm gonna you know it's hard to be on the spot i know see that's a weird thing i say my lanta nothing to shake a stick at in there like swimwear

meanty b i'm telling you guys the nicknames for just about everything it's nothing to shake a stick it i'm gonna start saying that now yeah um okay what is the most played song or artist in your library I love Drake. Like, I love Drake so much. Yes. So anything, Drake. Okay. What is your favorite cocktail?

Depends, like, who I'm trying to embody that night. If I'm trying to be, like, frisky or if I'm trying to be feisty, my go-to would probably be, like, any kind of, like, gin cocktail. I love a gin tonic. Yes, that's my favorite. And does that cue the feisty, or does that, what version do we get with gin? That's like my fun side. Okay.

Okay. Love it. If you could be any animal, what would you be? I would be a dolphin. I could see that actually. It's friendly. Who sees a dolphin and they're like, I hate that creature. Somebody without a soul.

Nobody. What is the current screensaver on your phone? Mine is me playing with my dad as a little kid and I'm blowing him a kiss on his lab. like this. Oh, that's precious. That's adorable. And that you're a little beanie?

Oh my gosh. I love that. I know. Okay, that is, I have to say, one of the best screensavers we've seen.

That's cute. That's cute. The late. Okay. If you could visit one place in the world, where would you go? I'd love to go to like

Bora Bora. It just seems really sexy. This seems really sexy. Yeah. I could be. mad at that. And you kind of briefly described this a little bit, but if you had to choose a different word,

if you're describing the season of the bachelor in one word or phrase, what would it be? This sounds like cliche, but love. Okay. Love. Love that. We love, love.

We love, love. Well, we are excited to see more of you. Okay, so Gabby, we let you go, we always do a couple fun last housekeeping things. So we always start with our resource, which is just helping keep our listeners informed around timely topics, especially in regards to race in this country, in this franchise. And so I'll kick it off. And then I'll let Michelle take the lead and share her resource. And then we'll have you follow up with yours. And then we'll get into like the last fun, Rosen Thorne part. But to start for this week, my resource is an Instagram account. The

account is her name is Dara Star Tucker. And basically her entire Instagram page features videos about every topic from race, like things like blackface, grandfather clauses, racism and politics, et cetera. But the one that I want to highlight today, and I just would urge anyone to go check out her entire page and just follow her is it basically discusses the differences between black pride and white pride. And it's a conversation that she did this reel around because she's seen a spark during Black History Month, which is obviously this month, and around why this designation between Black Pride and White Pride exists, leading from the question of like, why isn't there

a White History Month, which I'm sure a lot of maybe her white followers or just people on Instagram have asked about. So basically it goes into like how White Pride and Black Pride. Pride comes across differently in this country. And it's basically because of the way race and culture has developed here. So she discusses the concept of race as a colonial concept to create like this hierarchy to groups of people based on their skin color. She gets into basically like the history of our country and the origins of slavery and how when they were forced to come over to the United States, they were stripped of basically all of their traditions. Like they couldn't have their culture, their language, basically everything was stripped from them. And they were forced into this like completely new social framework. And because of that, they had to like really begin to develop like their own distinct culture of their own. And a lot of that in part was fueled by like triumph in the face of extreme adversity. And she kind of lays it out as like it developed out of the need to overcome horrific circumstances. So it gets into.

So much more. And all of her videos are about, I would say, like five minutes. So they're really quick, easy things to watch and read if you're on the go. But again, I highly recommend checking that one out just because it is February and we are in Black History Month. But her entire Instagram page is so interesting, so educational. And so again, her name is Dara Stark Tucker. So that is my resource of the week. And Michelle, if you want to go next. Yeah. So mine, I'm keeping mind short and sweet as we are really getting into Black History Month. I'll be posting this like one sheet. So this one sheet reminder slash article, it's just the do's and don'ts of Black History Month.

Really kind of focusing on what we can do to celebrate what we shouldn't be doing. Really kind of goes into just like quick little tidbits, how to support Black-owned businesses, how to really raise awareness, how to celebrate. and not doing it in a watered down manner and really kind of being sure that we are navigating this month insightfully and intentionally at the same time. And so again, the do's and don'ts of Black History Month, and I'll be posting that as like a little one sheet on my resources. Cool.

Thank you, Michelle. And now, Gabby, if you have a resource you would like to share, we would love to hear it. The resource that I was going to share with you, because I talked a lot about my therapy, and like my journey through therapy was a book that my therapist recommended to me and we would actually like work through different sections of it. It's called attached and it's about adult attachment styles and how that happens from your childhood and how it like translates into your adult life. And I think it's really important to understand like how you were raised and how that impacts you as an adult and how you can be very mindful of it. So that's that's my resource.

Thank you. Thank you. I actually will say I just learned a bit more about, I think it's the four different attachment styles. Is that right? The four of them. And yeah, and like you could just take a quiz online too to kind of see your attachment style and like why it is to come.

I was very surprised by it, I will say. So I think that's great to share in something that, you know, anyone at any point can look more into. So thank you for that. And then this is the last part. I swear, I know we keep adding on things before we let you go. This is the fun part. It's your rose and thorn. So basically, your rose is going to be your highlight or your favorite moment of your time on Zach's season so far. And then on the flip side, obviously the rose is something messy, awkward, a memory that you like wish maybe didn't happen or was shown. So whatever you want to share, your rose and thorn. Okay, so my thorn would probably be the nickname word vomit.

That happened, it was pretty embarrassing. And people were like, is this girl unhinged? Like, is she okay? So probably that would be my thorn. But like I said, like getting accustomed to like all of the cameras and everything, I think that was a thorn in itself. My rose would probably be just like the girls that kept me so grounded. When I was struggling in other areas, you know,

those girls like help boost me up and I'm so grateful for that. Um, and then those conversations that did go well and it wasn't me word vomiting, um, and giving sack nicknames that he didn't want. Um, those were all really positive moments. Good. I love that. Well, Gabby, we are excited to see more of you. It seems like you're finally getting the time, the well deserved time with Sacks. So we can't wait to see where this takes you. Um, and, you know, throughout this journey, it's a lot. we understand Michelle and I have both been in your shoes. It's a crazy time with social media and just having the world witness you trying to fall in love. So if you ever need anything, any advice to vent, like we are always here for you. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

And it's so awesome to meet both of you. I feel like I'm having a little fan girl moment. But this is super awesome. We were very excited to have you. Yeah, you're somebody that we wanted. So I'm glad that we saw you. And I'm sure in a few weeks, we'll either see you at the tell all or the finale however far you go so uh you look forward to meeting a person keep watching yes well thank you gabby all right michel that was a nice one she seems so sweet she seems really just sweet and genuine and i love how open she was just about her all that come like all the just different difficulties or obstacles that kind of come with like having ADHD and i i love that she was able to open up about that and i'm sure there's a lot of viewers that

appreciate her having that canon conversation. So thank you again, Gabby, for being so open. Michelle, I agree with you. And I love people who have, like, put in work. And, you know, we've all been through stuff in our past, you know, there's no way around that. But somebody who recognizes areas where they could do better or learn or just become more self-aware, I really appreciate. I think it's a conversation that we should always be having. And so I'm glad that it sounds like before coming on the show. She went, she went through some stuff. She, like, did the work, and I like that she can speak on that more. So, yeah, I feel like she, I feel like so far, like we've talked to some great women. And I'm like, I say this every week. I'm like,

I think they're going to go far. And I'm always not right. So we'll see. But I really hope she does. She seems like a very just genuine, real, very dumb to earth woman. So, um, thank you, Gabby, for joining us. And a big thank you to all of our happy hour listeners. we love chatting with you all each and every week. And I have to remind you all that new episodes of The Bachelor air every Monday at 8.7 Central on ABC. Or you can also stream it next day on Hulu. And another reminder, casting is now open for men to date, our next Bachelorette, whoever that might be. So if you are single or know somebody who is single, go to the website to nominate or apply at bachelornation.com slash apply. Also, make sure to hit us up on social. You can follow us at

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