Bachelor Happy Hour - Gerry’s ‘Happy Hour’ Return!

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with our very first Golden Bachelor, Gerry Turner! Gerry is here to catch us up on everything he’s been up to since we last chatted. We kick off the episode getting into his thoughts on Grant’s finale and how he prepared for his panel. Then, we discuss what went down between him and Theresa, including where they stand today. We also pick his brain about “Golden Paradise” — will Gerry be doing any matchmaking this summer? And, of course, we get updates from him on his dating life, health, and more. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents.

and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes,

we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness. Psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app.

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Spaces, The Kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcombered podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest not my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm

Serena. And we are here with the Golden Bachelor himself. It's been a while. Gary Turner, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. But thank you so much for having me. This is kind of an exciting morning for me. Yeah. How you doing? What's new? doing great life is actually pretty good i've gotten through the doldrums of winter i'm starting to look out on the lake now and it looks sunny and uh i just count the days down now until it gets nice and warm yeah where are you you're in indiana right northern indiana and how is it yeah i'm assuming it's cold it's cold there right now it was 32 this morning when i got up so yeah it's cold as heck but uh you know by the weekend it's supposed to be a

back in the 70s and you know another couple of weeks the bolts will start going in the water so it'll be good. We're creeping our way to spring. Have you been, have you been getting any pickleball games in like at least indoor? Well yeah. Oh yeah. I still play Monday, Wednesday, Friday, about three hours each morning. I got a tournament coming up next Tuesday morning. So it's my, it's kind of my barometer for health and well-being and so. forth. There's a level of tiredness. If I get beyond that, I start wondering if something's wrong. And

if I'm short of that, I'm wondering if I'm not working hard enough. So, you know, bat myself back and forth. Three hours is long. I actually don't think I could play pickleball for three hours. Three hours is long. That is a long time. Yeah. The thing is

it's with the group that you guys have seen all along. The group that was at the wedding and that has been with me. So we kind of know each other's tendencies. So it makes it a little bit easier, but we still play pretty hard.

We try to kill each other. From your, now, you know, it's been a year since your season. Looking back, who, which of the women would you consider to be a really good pickleball player? Were there any? Actually, you know, Ellen played pretty well. But I think Faith didn't give herself a, chance. She seemed to fairly athletic and well coordinated and so forth. And for the little bit

she played, she looked like she enjoyed it. So, you know, that's kind of big. I think when you really like it, I think you'd get into it pretty well. That's good. Yeah. Well, let's get into AFR from Grant's season because we saw that you were there at the taping. How did the night go? Oh, that was kind of fun. You know, most of all, it was great to be bad. in the environment and see all the people and shake hands and have a chat with Jesse and and you know talk to Clayton I hadn't really had the opportunity to talk to Clayton before that and you know see some of the old personnel so I thoroughly enjoyed it I really would have loved to have had that be a two or three day event how did you feel going into the panel was there

any things specific that you wanted to say? Well, I sort of mentally rehearsed some of the things I wanted to say beforehand. I knew kind of what the questions were going to be. And, you know, release hits close to home for me. So I was fairly well prepared with my answer. And I felt pretty good about what I said. What did you and Clayton chat about? Anything in particular?

Yeah, we just had him on our podcast. Everything from what we like to drink to how we're doing with our self-help projects to our own seasons, everything under the sun. Like I said, we hadn't talked before, so it was a blank slate. Being there in seeing Grant and seeing some of the women kind of, you know, lean into him a little bit. how did that make you feel? Did you feel any similarities? Did you feel like you had somewhat of a similar journey or very different? Yeah, a similar journey. I mean, you guys have been in the environment and you know what it does to you and you know how all consuming it is. And, you know, when you're there for the one reason of finding a part,

partner and you're so focused and you're so devoted to that. Everything else gets blocked out and and you give undivided attention to each of the women that you're with at any given time. I could really relate to where he was at. You could see the struggle and you could see the difficulty he was having. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. How is it seeing Joan and Chalk? Had you had a chance to meet Chalk before? Yeah. Yeah. And it was pretty fun. before the AFR that morning for breakfast, we were able to get together and talk. And so that was pretty nice. And then, of course, Clayton comes along.

And, you know, it wound up being a bigger group. And then after the AFR, it was especially fun because it was Joan and Chalk and Leslie joined us. So I got to get her perspective on things and, you know, what she's got going on. And so I loved it. For someone that's been in a relationship after the show and being a lead, what would your advice be to Grant right now? I think, you know, so Grant's been in such a tidal wave of events and emotions and so forth. You know, you're going so fast.

It's like drinking out of a fire. hydrant. It's time now to just slow it up and figure out how life will feel day to day. Just like even try to find the most boring days and see how well you get along with your new partner. You know, try to imagine some of the small obstacles that you'll need to overcome as a couple and how you'll handle it and start to react to each other. So bottom line is take it slow. Yeah. Do you mind sharing what went wrong in your relationship with Teresa? Well, I'm not so sure anything went wrong.

We've had conversations. And I think our mutual deep devotion to our families kind of reared its head in conversations. And we started trying to realize or trying to find that common ground, the commonality of where we could share a life and where we could share a home and so forth. Then her being a brand new grandmother and me having gone through the loss of a spouse and feeling the support of my daughters, it almost created a situation where we recognized fairly quickly that we weren't going to. find that spot where we could be together. And I think more than anything, that was, that was if. And I, I, I really feel like there was a mutual admiration and respect and empathy in both ways that we kind of understood the other person's situation. So do you think if you and Teresa had been from the same place, your families were in the same place, you would potentially still be

together today um okay so that's a difficult hypothetical question based on what i know and and based on the experiences that we had back then if you eliminate that huge obstacle i can see no red flags i still don't see any reason why it wouldn't have worked out but we were also so new to the relationship that we may not have uncovered that layer of the onion that could have been a problem yet. So it's hard to answer that, really. Yeah. What advice would you give to people that are dating long distance? Well, first off, what does long distance mean? Does it mean a couple hours drive or does it mean halfway across the country? What do you? Yeah, let's say, let's say we're talking, we're talking different states. Across the country. Okay. Okay. I think the best advice is

to have a conversation early on about the ability to visit back and forth. You know, can you afford to fly frequently or is it going to be the drudgery of packing and, and driving. You need to kind of uncover what the possible problems might be. You know, I went quite some time after Trees and I separated. And, you know, I decided my journey's not done. I really think that in a roundabout way, I want to prove that the Golden Bachelor show was still successful, that it taught me enough lessons to get me to the right spot. So I've tried to learn from my failures, which I think you learn more from your failures than your successes, you know. And so with each dating episode, I've tried to learn a little bit more about myself and about the things that you can overcome to get to a successful relationship.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcast Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. what do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge.

But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives, knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever.

Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you're a crime junkie, and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers.

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what are your thoughts on golden bachelor in paradise um i i i'm really curious as to how it will look i i for one you know i don't want to be a contestant there um you know i feel like uh it's not the right spot for me. But I'm intrigued by how it's going to look. Is it going to be like two parallel parties, one in one ballroom and one in another with, you know, the golden group and and the younger group and some people out of one ballroom sneak to the other ballroom and back and forth? And I have no idea how it's going to be, but I am intrigued. I was going to ask you, which this question now thinking about it further doesn't make sense. I was going to ask you, you know, oh, well, would you go? But all of the golden women are off of your season because there's only been one season of the of golden bachelor so you've already dated all of them and not only that but i think

what i anticipate the women that are going to be there for my season i've also developed good friendships with you know i talk to kathian i talk to susan and i'll talk to faith and i'll talk to nancy and i'll even talk to leslie from time to time and so if those people are there It's kind of like trying to cultivate a romance with a friend, you know, somebody that you're friends with and somebody that you're comfortable being in that friend zone. So it just wouldn't work. Are you currently dating anyone now? Like, what's dating life been like since you're and Teresa's breakup? I am dating someone.

I think at this point it's going well. But I don't want to say too much. and jinxes. And I'm trying to respectfully get to a point where there's an acceptable amount of time from my divorce. Maybe that's an old-fashioned thought. Maybe it doesn't matter as much as I think it does. But to be respectful, I kind of want to slow roll this. And I have told Teresa that I'm dating someone, so it won't be a shocking news to her. But mostly following my own advice that I gave you earlier, go slow, take it easy, you know, learn this person. Have your kids had the chance to meet this person? They have. And I think the fun part there is she has

daughters that I really relate to, and her daughter, her, she relates well to my daughters. So we've been around each other briefly, and, but it's been fun. It's been a very enjoyable encounter. Had, did you watch Jones season at all? Yes. Any of the guys that you saw in Jones season that you think would be good pairings with some of the women from your season? Yeah, do you want to play match? maker at all. Joan, Joan is all about it. Maybe you two could come down and set some people up. God bless her for that. I am not good at that because number one, I think you don't see enough of a person on the show to get a really good read for what their likes and dislikes and

their character and all of that. So Joan has much closer contact with, those guys. I will say, I think there are some very available and attractive women from my season that I think would do great in a nice social mixer with those guys. That'd be fun to watch. And if that's part of Bachelor in Paradise. Gary, do you think that we're going to see a crossover between the Golden contestants and the regular season contestants at all? and by crossover you mean some some friendships maybe some sparks maybe some connections maybe just you know just platonic bonds oh certainly i think there will be some some really good friendships come out of that whether or not there's some genuine sparks i'm i'm not real sure because i have a lot of faith in the women that

were on my show a huge amount of faith in them i believe in them i think they'll be wise enough to realize that that amount of age difference could be really different or difficult see like i personally this is and i have no idea what it's going to look like either but i don't really i don't really think they're going to be in the same location like i i i don't think they're going to be I can, like, the show does such a good job of just separating guys from girls when they want to when we're in paradise. Right. I don't think they're going to have an issue separating the golden contestants from the regular contestants. You think it'll be like almost two separate villas and then they might intermix and mingle for like cocktail hours or rose ceremonies.

They may they may intermix them for like a prom night. Like I could see, I could see like there being a few. Or like a, if they do a game or something. Yeah. husband is they do like the truth circle but like i think they're going to be living in separate quarters i think i think that's a good theory that's kind of what i envision as well is like the golden bachelor in paradise the i just don't think they could risk having a 75-year-old dude hit on a 22-year-old yeah i mean either but i think keeping them close and and and having it interwoven where

they just brush together for, you know, a cocktail hour or, you know, some things like that. I think adds to the intrigue and the mystique of it. And some of the question that would keep people coming back week to week. I like that too. Yeah. People are definitely curious to see if it's going to happen. I don't think it will, but I think the intrigue of could it, will it, will keep people engaged. But I think it'll end up being more of like.

friendly relationships. I mean, we even know like Susan and Rachel from Joey's season have like a great friendship. Would you make, would you make an appearance if they asked you? I would absolutely love to do that. You know, in talking to one of the producers, I told them I didn't want to be a contestant, but I'd love to have a recurring role or a cameo role. I keep saying I'll be I'll be Wells Barback. I'll I'll clean dishes and and glass. for him while he's doing the bartending. You know, I'll escort a date or a host a date or something. I think that would be great fun.

I'd love that. They got to have you, they'll bring you down to, like, judge, like, a pickleball game or something. I can see that. Speaking of pickleball that I just brought up, you're playing three days a week, but how is your health, most importantly? Actually, you know, I appreciate you're asking because I get that question a lot. I feel great. And, you know, as I've said, until I have any symptoms, there's no treatment. So I go frequently for blood tests.

I'm on like a six-month schedule now. And I'm kind of, I feel optimistic because the doctor has said, well, when you turn 75, we're going to have to go three-month increments. So it's telling me that at least he expects me to live another couple of years to get to that um but but the bottom line is i i feel really good is that a frustrating feeling because i'm assuming that you have to wait until it progresses to a certain point to then accept treatment right do you feel like it's like this kind of waiting period or do you feel grateful for this time that like your health is not seriously impacting you can continue living day to day

as you usually would so there's there's good parts in there and i'll break it down a little bit first of all, 20% of the people who have Waldromström's syndrome, Waldromstrums, whatever the hell it is, never have treatment. They outlive it. You know, something else gets them. Second of all, and I mean this sincerely, from the time I got this diagnosis, it's a privilege to live like you're dying. I don't turn down anything. I feel like I'm more open to, emotions. I'm more open to experiences. The person I'm dating will say, do you want to go do? And before she even gets out the rest of the sentence, I will say yes. So I'm in on everything. And it makes life exciting because you kind of in the back of your head feel like you've got a lot of living

to do and you don't know how long you have to do it. So don't turn down anything. And so it's in a way, It's really a good thing. Yeah, I think that's a good mindset. Is the person you're dating, is she adventurous? She is. That helps. She wants to go do, her life experiences have been, you know, a lot of travel and so forth. So that's kind of how we're approaching.

How are your daughters doing with the diagnosis? They're pretty good. It's not like it's talked about a lot. I think they understand the baseline of, As long as dad says he's feeling fine and not having any of those symptoms, we're just going to go on like everything's normal. That's great. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.

Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, album podcast or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemail Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcast Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political

lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's a lot of life after Congress, and you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psycho babble. Yes, yes.

Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free Iheart radio app. emergency intercom and listen now. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this, do this, pull that, turn this. It's just, I can do it my eyes close. I'm Mani. I'm Noah.

This is Devin. And on our new show, No Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise. And then, as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing.

Listen to No Such Thing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready

to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did. Join me for conversations about healing and growth. Well, I just

freaking hard and growth doesn't happen in comfort it happened in motion even when you're hurting all from one of my favorite spaces the kitchen honestly these are going to come out so freaking amazing be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the overcomper podcast as part of the my culture podcast network on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast Can you share with us? I know you don't want to talk too much about your relationship and keep it private. But can you share with us when you knew that it was becoming more of a serious relationship when you were going to like maybe essentially call each other boyfriend, girlfriend? Or when you're like I should maybe let Teresa know about this? So I'll start with your question, Serena. I had a kind of conversation with Joan and I think Leslie was in on it and I asked for their advice. I said to be respectful and to do the right thing, when should I talk to Teresa about this and let her know? And their advice was to talk to her soon. So on the car ride from the hotel to the airport after the AFR the next day, I called Teresa. We had a really nice conversation. And, you know, I let her know.

So, you know, that's that part of it. Now, Joe, for your question, I hate to tell you this, and I hate to say it because I know I'm going to get baseballs thrown at me. It was almost the first time I saw her. Okay. It was the look that she gave me. It was like all of a sudden I was consumed by this look. and I had this actual physical feeling. And I pushed it off.

I go, no, this, that was silly. That's ridiculous. And with every encounter, that feeling is instantly come back with her look. And it's like, damn, this is pretty awesome. Did you get that at all from any of the women on your season? Like this particular feeling? Or have you experienced that in life before? I think the closest to that,

was when Faith played the guitar and sang to me on, I think it was the first night, she got the first impression rose. That would be the closest to it. Oh, that's so romantic, Gary. I don't think anyone's going to throw baseballs at you. I think people will love to hear that. I don't know. They'll probably be someone. The whole love at first sight thing, I've never been in on that. And all of a sudden hearing him, I really feel like I'm experiencing that. Wow, that's amazing. Congratulations. Can we ask you how, You met her, or do you want to keep that private? Well, I'll hold on to that and any more details for a while longer.

No problem. Again, I'm trying to be respectful. Do you know if Teresa's dating currently dating, anyone? I don't know, but she's kind of on my list to call again here in the next couple of days. I want to get an update on what her plans are with Bachelor of Paradise. Okay. So are you too friendly at this point? You're on good terms?

Yeah. I don't think we were ever on bad terms. I think from my side of it, my perspective, I, I withdrew from her. I felt like maybe I was a source of bad feelings and the negativity that came out of the show and so forth. So I kind of avoided talking to her and not out of, you know, ill will or or, or, uh, being combative at all, just I thought it was better if we gave each other's space. Maybe I was wrong at that and now I intend to go a different direction with it. Yeah, I mean, there's no perfect way to handle a breakup and you guys were in a very unique situation. Yeah. What do you expect to see from her if she does go to Bachelor in Paradise? Well, I would hope that she finds some success in finding someone. I think she might be a little bit of the same opinion that I am

that she's kind of been there, done that and that maybe her preference would be to not be involved in it, but maybe a cameo or something like that. But I can't speak for her. I really don't know. I hope she goes. I do. Yeah.

Yeah, we'll see. I think it'll be fun. So what else, Gary, anything new you're working on right now? There's not a lot. I really enjoyed my first ever winter being away from the Midwest. I was in Mexico for a couple of months, and that was pretty awesome. I was in San Carlos, which is about halfway down the mainland of Mexico on the Baja. And I've got the project going with the Hearing Aid Company with Starkey's. I'm very happy to have partnered with them because I feel strongly about that.

And I've got a book that is really close to being done. What's the book? What's the book about? Well, it starts with the first date I had with my wife, Tony. And so back in 1967 and goes forward, and most of the time it talks about my experience, you know, in the show. Would you describe it as a, like, an autobiography? It's much closer to an autobiography than it is a tell-all for sure.

I, you know, I have certain things that are important to me. You know, the feeling of not being invisible as you get older, the feeling of wanting and needing to have someone in your life. if, you know, if that's your preference and how to do those things and how to put yourself in a positive mindset for those things, taking care of your health mentally and physically and those things. So just a reminder to people of my age and to any age of all the things that I think are important. So that's kind of what it is. That's great. When can we expect it to potentially come out?

Well, I think it'll be within the next 60 days. You know, it should be good to go. Now that it's been, you know, it's been a little over a year since your season and, you know, looking back on everything now, what do you think the best thing you took away from the experience? Well, a couple things come to mind. The first thing I guess I would say is that I have a much better self-awareness. Going into the show, I had no idea I was such a cry baby, that I would connect with people's feelings so deeply. And so knowing that, I've had to adjust my behaviors and how I approach things. That's the first thing.

The second thing is, I guess the message that I hope people would see is that if you're in your 70s, you can still have a hell of a good time. you don't write yourself off because you get to whatever age you know it's like okay my first social security check is here i'm done for now find myself a lazy boy and i'm done it's it should be just the opposite so those are the things i guess that that first come to mind do you think do you think you did that before go you do you think you were that person before going on the show i was getting close i was kind of getting there it's kind of you You know, it just becomes so much easier to not get up off the couch and go do and be and get involved and so forth. It's just easier to kind of sit down, have your coffee and, you know, call it good.

And I really got revitalized through the show completely. And then I've kept that up since then. That's amazing. So what is next? We have the book coming out, your partnership with the hearing aid coming. you're dating someone. What do you see kind of, if we talk to you in a year, where do you see yourself being? It can be general or specific. If you and I talk again in a year, I think I would look back and recite all the places that I had been in this year. Because not only am I personally

motivated to have adventures and go travel, I think I'm going to have a partner that wants to do the same thing. And having those similar tastes will be huge. I really think in that year that I'll have some experiences related to the book where I have a tour and I have to go for signings and so forth. And I actually think that will be fun. You know, I see. I, you know, I see. still get recognized all the time, you know, wherever I go. And I enjoy that. You know, people will sometimes be apologetic or they won't approach, but everyone gets a part of the fun when they, you know, when they start a conversation or they want to take a picture. And I'm still happy to do that with people. So a year from now, I hope it's a whole bunch of that.

That's amazing. I hope I lament that I haven't been home much. I like that. Um, all right i think that's pretty much it before we let you go give us your most simplistic advice you would give to the next golden bachelor do the best you can do to not get caught up in the moment okay don't let the tidal wave of activity, take you up to a velocity that supersedes your ability to think clearly. Okay, I like that. I like that. That's very good.

Gary, thank you so much for taking the time out of your day. We know you're a busy guy. It was so much fun chatting with you. It's been a while, so this was a nice catch-up, and it was great talking to you. Thanks. I love seeing you guys so happy that you're doing well and you look awesome. And your relationship is flourishing. Very happy for you.

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