Bachelor Happy Hour - ‘Golden Bachelor’ Rewind with Gerry Turner | Golden Hour

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we have a very special reunion: Former Golden Bachelor Gerry Turner is here! The trio is reminiscing on their experiences on the show as well as updates where they’re at now, including a health update from Gerry. Then, we kick off our advice portion with the question of the day: What advice do you have to young listeners that will face big disappointments in life? Plus, Gerry answers some of our most asked questions, from single parents introducing their kids to a potential partner to finding a balance between a supportive parent and a grieving partner when you lose your spouse. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back, everybody to Bachelor. Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Kathy and now you're back to join you. We're so excited, aren't we, Gab? We are always so excited to get back together. Be sure to check out our latest episode. We've been having so much fun answering all your questions and chatting with all of your Bachelor Nation faves.

Every single one of you. But today, we have one hell of a guest, baby. He is very special to us, and he was the first ever Golden Bachelor. Gary Turner. Hey, Gare, welcome. Hi, you guys. It's so good to see you and hear your voices again. Love you guys, the pieces.

Welcome, welcome. It's been a minute, Gary. So before we even get started, I have a bone to pick with you, if you don't mind. Can I do that? Right off the back. I was so excited that it was you coming because, let me start with this. Can you define friendship? Oh, boy.

the definition of friendship would be forgiving of someone who's close to you being tolerant of them understanding them staying oh man because now i'm thinking of myself on no no so when you were on tv the other day i was watching and i sent you a text well-spoken garry you didn't send a response joan was there she sent a response anybody else but my friend gary Susan don't feel badly. He doesn't answer me either. He's very big now. He's very popular. He must have a lot of dates. We're going to figure out why, Gary. Do you not read your text? Look at him. He's looking at his phone. Did I get a text?

Yeah, I missed it. It's not that I saw it and ignored it. All right. We're going to grill you. We're going to grill you later, Gary. But right now, we have we love you. We have so much stuff we want to dive into. So we're going to get things started. And we want to know. what you've been up to. Just give us the day in the life of Gary Turner. What's going on with you? Well, so it was a nice winter. It was the first time that I'd been able to get away from the Midwest winters.

And I went to Mexico for a couple of months. Yeah, nice. An awful lot of time. And then, of course, when I'm down there, my dad passed away. So I had to rush back and, you know, take care of a bunch of estate things for him. and I've been dealing with my siblings and the things that come along with dealing with the estate. I'm doing the same thing. I'm just to put my head above water now on those things.

And I'm back to playing pickleball three or four times a week. And pretty much, I'm really having a good time. I'm enjoying myself. So, wait, how was Mexico? Where were you? Do you speak Spanish? Tell me about Mexico. So I don't speak much Spanish, but the place I was at was.

San Carlos, which is about halfway down the Baja. It's on the west coast of the mainland. Okay. And the nearest big city is Hermesio. There's an airport there. And the people there are so genuine and so kind that if you try to communicate with them and use a few Spanish words, they help you so much. There was a little grocery story I went to all the time.

And there was a guy in the butcher shop. He always wanted to practice his English with me. and I always wanted to practice my Spanish. That's a good thing. Oh, God, it was nice. It was nice. Listen, Gary, all you need to know is, Donda's da el banio.

El banio. Then you just need to say, ma Cervesa, por favor, more beer, or, you know, or me gusto, much, guista, much,

gino-tinto. I love red wine. I mean, any of those things will get you where you want to go. Or something's too much. Tequila. Ah, there you go. Just no mas. No mas tequila. What made you go to Mexico, Gary? Well, so I have a cousin who has a sailboat there. And so she had the boat. I rented a condo. We shared quite a bit of time. You know, we'd go to meals together. She was a fairly accomplished mountain climber. And so I had a climbing partner. I had a, yeah, yeah, I know. We'll get to that.

So it turned out to be a pretty good combination for the two of us. And I heard your daughters came down for a short time. Angie and Jenny came down for a bit? They did for the last five days. Nice. That's all they got from the whole winter. You only had the girls for five days. They have jobs.

I do not have a job. I have no place I got to be. All right. So you're back. You had a good time in Mexico. we saw you at AFR. How was that getting back and seeing Joan and Chalk and, you know, everybody? How did that feel?

Must have been a little surreal. Well, I tell you what, I really liked it because the Friday morning breakfast, I got to sit with Joan for quite a while and we compared notes. Then Chalk shows up. Clayton shows up. So we're all chitty-chatting. And then that night, the same group plus Leslie sat down for, you know, a couple of drinks. And that was a ball, man.

You're just hearing everyone's different perspective on what has happened and what's good, what's not working out right and so forth. I loved it. And there's no hard feelings. I mean. No, no, no, no. Leslie looked great, didn't she? She did.

She did. I swear that girl gets younger. Every time I see her, it's like she looks younger. She's living the good life. That's all I got to say. Yeah. But is it weird, though, to be back there and, you know, because you were the lead, you know, Was it weird or not?

I wouldn't say weird. I was thankful to be there. After a long hiatus to get the invitation back and get to see so many of the people, I was really thrilled with that. Genuinely from my heart, I loved it. All right. So are you dating anyone now, Gary? What's going on?

Anyone new in your life? There is something going on. It's a little early to talk about, I think. Oh, that's exciting. That is exciting. and you can maybe get back to me in a month or so and we'll talk about

I'm calling your ass, Gary. I'm calling you can call him, but he doesn't answer or return calls so you're screwed. He don't respond the messages. We're going to talk about this further. Gary, is she local? Can we just, is she local?

Yes. And I have a question. How did you meet? I don't want to tell you that yet. Was it Tinder? No. I don't even know what that is. I bet it was on a pickleball court.

No. I think it's a nice story. But it goes along with the story of, you know, how it's happened, how I feel about it. But mostly I want to make sure that it's as solid as it feels and giving it a little more time. Yeah, before you talk about it, I guess. And then I will give you a really nice story. Okay. Okay. So, Kathy, if it's not how he thinks it's going, then he'll be on Paradise, I think.

Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Susan, what, you have a Ph.D. in logic here? I'm just paying attention. I do that sometimes. So, so, well, certainly, Gary, we're happy for you. I mean, of course, and seriously, we hope that whoever she is, that you are happy, that you've found love, you know, Susan and Kat, well, you know, strike one. There's still persons out there for us, Kat. She won't let it go, Susan.

She just won't let it go. Dog with the bone, Gary. Dog with the bone. All right. So, Gary, you, but you are still in Indiana, right? That's where you are now. Yeah. Yeah.

Still same house, same, everything's good. And you look good. And your health is good. You know, your health is good? It is. You know, the whole point is as long as I don't have symptoms. I don't have to talk about treatments yet. And every six months, I let the blood tests.

You know, that one test is going to be way out of whack and get more out of whack as time goes by. But quite honestly, I feel great. I am enjoying life right now tremendously. And I told you, Gary, but I'll, Bachelor Nation, I have, the kind of cancer you have is very rare. It strikes one in a million men. And believe it or not, I dated a guy who, got your same diagnosis about six months before you got it

and he I know right I know two and I know two guys and whatever but he is fine just to let you know he went through the treatment he waited like a year and a half and then he had the treatment and he's fine and the doctors have said

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What would your advice be? You know, that's a really good question. I think my first reaction is to tell them that part of the learning process in life is dealing with disappointment. And it's why I wanted to be in a team sport. My daughters, I wanted them to be in team sport, because when you're defeated, when you lose, you learn so much more, I think, than when you win. So look at those things as an opportunity to improve yourself or, you know, find new additional things to add to your resume or whatever the case may be. But look at failure as a positive building block for what you do next. Gary, when your daughters, if your daughters had their first relationship not work out and they had broken hearts, how did you, because you don't want to hear that, you know, time heals. Life goes on. You'll remember this later. It'll help you grow. At that point, you want to cry. Like, no, you don't tell me that. But the thing is, Susan, you know Jenny, you know my oldest daughter. You both know her pretty well. And the first time she's you. Huh? She is you, by the way. Yeah, that's.

And he is his carving copy. Yeah. The first time she broke up with a serious boyfriend, my wife and I were relieved. We didn't like the guy. So it's like, good ridden. Good ridden. I do like your advice though, Gary, because I do think that, you know, it's not what we win, what we lose. It's not the things we get right in life.

It's the things we get wrong that teach us the biggest lessons. So I think that's really good advice. Yeah. I think that it's close to home for me as well, that the things that in the recent past, the last two years that I've done wrong have been tremendous lessons for me on how to do better going forward. Yes. Yeah. And, you know, I repeat mistakes sometimes now that this age I'm finally getting it, Gare. I know what about it. Gary, did you know that you can't, you know, people, you know how close Susan and I are? I don't know if you know this. Two years. ago, not quite two years ago, I broke my wrist exactly the same way, fell backward on it, had the same surgery, same hand. And the funny thing was, Susan has four pins and a really large plate in her wrist. And I said, of course, you ended up to me, Susan, because I had two pins

and a small plate. I have screws, that's screws. Sorry, two screws. Yeah, pins and plates is what they call. You know, again, I got pins, Susan gets screws. Again, you know. I was going to say, the two of you are not competitive on who gets screwed the most. Gary, this is a family show. I win. Susan, you always win. I don't know for. I'm just saying, okay, now.

All right, guys. We're moving on. Moving on. All right. So we have a collection of our most asked questions by our listeners. And Gary, we're going to give these listeners some advice. You're going to go first after I, Kathy and I read them, and then we'll put our two cents in. All right.

Sometimes, Kathy and I, like earlier when we did a podcast the other day, we agreed on almost everything, which is unusual. Okay. So if we agree with you, great. If we don't, that's great. Okay. All right. You ready? Yep.

So what advice do you have for single parents introducing their children to a new partner? Oh, wow. I know. What a, ooh, that's a good one. Ah. I think the setting and the planning and the preparation are critical.

You pick a happy place. You make sure that everyone. What, like Disney World? In case they freak out? You want to be in a public place? We don't care. But I think the important thing is being, don't over talk,

but be honest. You know, if you start overexper, explaining and saying too much, then it looks suspicious. Kids are really intuitive. So 100% honest, but just don't overdo it. And don't you feel time, like how long have you been seeing someone before you do the introduction matters? I think it depends.

Well, I think that depends. We're talking about a younger single parent then, you know, with smaller children, right? I guess, yeah. And then I think, yes, you have to be protective of the kids. You have to make sure that the partner that you're about to introduce has a very high level of success in your relationship. You don't want to be, you know, a revolving door. Right. I think you're right with young children, but with older children, Gary, you're a widower, I'm a widow.

I think that has a different set of rules for us. For like your adult children, right? Adult children, because with me, I have not introduced my kids. to one guy that I was dating and then if a guy's a friend and the reason is I feel really I want my kids to know that I'm never going to that I'm not even attempting to replace their dad and you I'm sure replace your wife so I try to have those conversations with my kids before you know before I even think about meeting having them meet a potential partner.

Are you that way? Well, I would push back on that a little bit. My recent experience, the person that I've just started dating, got to meet Angie and Jenny early on. We all went to dinner. There was a, there was an event in an ambulance. I'm going to let you finish this conversation with Gary. I've got Jenny on Speed Dial and Angie, so I'm going to find out.

I'll get back before the end of this podcast with all the scoop for you. But with adult children, I don't think there's anything wrong with it, as long as you feel a certain way about this person. Right, right. But wait a minute, do your kids, Gary, wait, do you, Angie and Jenny, who, you know, Susan, I do know well and we love them, they're lovely ladies, but when they meet someone, because, you know, you've had a few girlfriends since the show, how do you say to them, you know, or don't you? Do you just say I want you to meet? I don't. I do everything I can to not bias them because after the fact, I don't even ask for opinions, but it's important and significant to me how quickly they get back to me and what they have to say.

So I'm not inviting anything, but when I get it, I know I'm getting the straight school. So what if your daughter said to me? Yeah, really. What if your daughter said to you? Yeah, really, they're like, God, dad. We were instant friends, though, Jenny and Andy. That's true, we were. We were.

But my question is, Gary, what if Jenny and Angie called you and said, I'm just going to use the name Kathy Susan? Kathy Sue, that's your date. Kathy Sue. Kathy Sue. And Jenny and Angie call you and say, Dad, what the hell are you thinking? Are you going to still go out with Kathy Sue? they would never say that what they would say that would send me the same message

is dad do you know this person well enough dad do you have you asked all the right questions that's all they need to do to be gracious but send me the same message and because they never say those negative things can i ask you gary what those questions would be like that they were referring to oh yeah The things that I've learned to be a better communicator about is talking about long-term plans where someone would want to live, financial security.

You learned. You learned, yeah. I'm slow, but I get there, you know. Me too, baby. That's why we go wrong. I'm a guy. So some of those questions that are important and the answers are significant. I don't know. When do you know when to have those questions, though?

I have, anecdotally, I think there's a certain rhythm that you fall into with someone that you feel like you click with. And when you feel that rhythm, bringing hard topics up is very easy. Amazingly easy. I had a really nice experience this weekend. She and I spent some time together. And we started talking on the sofa, and an hour and a half later, we're at my island, both of us eating ice cream out of the same container. I love this. And we didn't even realize. Wait, but Gary, what is it with you?

What is it with you? You share a milkshake with Teresa? You have a cup of ice cream. You share with this. He got me cotton candy. I mean, you know, there is such a thing as let me buy you an ice cream code. I think the point is they were so I'm just pulling your chain you know this communicating I think you're right I think if it were my if it were me with my mom introduced to me with somebody or something and I didn't care for them I would probably say nothing else until I was asked and then say you know it's about you and well that's but Susan you're an adult think about your daughter who there are adults too but like My kids, my kids, and Gary, when I say these things like, what the hell are you thinking, Dad?

I don't really think your daughters would ever say that. I'm just the gist is what I was after. Your daughters are polite. I'm polite. I would never say that either. It's just. You don't even need to say those things. He knows that.

Right. So, but I will say my children would say to me, mom, my kids would be polite, but direct and say, I, Mom, I don't know what you're thinking. I know you're lonely or I know you'd like to find someone or whatever they would say. But I think you need to get to know this guy better before we spend any more time with him. And that would tell me. Have you met my sons? Why?

Yeah. Why? What would your kids say? I'm going to do some guy or do you go, really, ma'am? Really? What do you think? Thanks, son. What were you thinking, Mom?

Okay. Next question. All right. I have, the question I have is how do you go, because I deal with this again, like you do, Gary, how do you go about supporting yourself while also supporting your children after the loss of their parent, your spouse? Oh, Kathy, that's... Oh, I struggle. That's tough, yeah.

It's, we just metaphorically joined hands. and wouldn't allow the others to sink too far. And in that circle, it wasn't just my daughters, but also my granddaughters. They played such a big role. My oldest granddaughter, Peyton, was only 15 at the time. And when the family got together at the house and everyone was ready to leave, Peyton looked at me and she goes, Paul, I'm not leaving. You can't be in this house by yourself this week.

And it's going to be, and it's like, oh, my God, it was like, that's the kind of support, that quiet, happy, supportive thing that people do when they're a close family. Yeah. So that's the best thing I got. I, for me, I mean, my grandchildren, one wasn't even born, and the other one was not even three. They were babies. but I just, you know, it's still my kids have gotten. How long has it been for you, Gary, since your wife died? This coming July, it will be eight years.

Okay, so I just had my sixth anniversary. It feels, I think my kids still, your kids were older. We have some, your kids were older. My kids were in their early 30s. So, so, it's still hard, though. I mean, I have to be honest, it's still hard. It's still hard. You support each other.

children, parents, everybody has their own way of mourning and for loss, but you're there together and you touch base all the time that you have. Even now, there's unspoken communication at times, at certain times of the year, certain little events where we just look at each other and we go, oh, we know she's looking down. And because we all think the same thing at those moments. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes I'm sure you say mom will be cracking up right now. Oh, yeah.

Or she'd be squashing that one. Oh, I have to tell you, I'm not, I don't know what I think about reincarnation, but another topic, but my newest granddaughter, who will be two in April, of course, so she was not alive, but she literally has my husband, her middle name is Daryl, my husband's name, and she has his eyes, not just the color, my daughter and my husband have the same color eyes, but her eyes are exactly my husband's. But the thing that, and she gets me every time, my husband used to say, like, he'd see something, and he'd smile and you'd go, wow, all the time. It was, wow. My granddaughter does it all the time, and I just know that's, you know,

I just feel like that brings. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah. Awesome. So I feel like, but, you know, I agree with you, Gary. It's great, it's great advice that just marking those. times and feeling it together and just knowing that, as you said, Susan, we all grieve differently. But we all, we all. And in the case of a divorcee, you're still not going to introduce your children until it's the same thing. You're not, it's not replacing a father. But when you have adult children, it's a whole different picture, if you will.

I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming.

Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Kurt Brown-Oller. And I am Scotty Landis, and we host Bananas. the Weird News Podcasts with wonderful guests like Whitney Cummings.

And tackle the truly tough questions. Why is cool mom an insult, but mom is fine? No. I always say, Kurt, it's a fun dad. Fun dad and cool mom. That's cool for me. We also dig into important life stuff. Like, why our last names would make the worst hyphen ever.

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listen to your favorite shows. Okay. We have another one. What advice do you have for those entering their golden years that struggle with aging, whether it be mentally managing their physical bodies changing, etc? What challenges do you think come with aging that you think people don't expect or talk about? Oh, my God. There's so many. Go, Gary. Go. There are one, aren't you, Gary? I mean, I was shocked. I think one of the things that strikes me is the challenge of getting good sleep. You get up and down to the bathroom three or four times a night, and that causes the next day to be just a touch more groggy than it should be. The aches and pains of staying physically fit. Okay, so you decide that you don't want to go to the gym or you don't want to go to pickleball, you waste away.

But when you do those things, you have to accept the fact that you're going to hurt, lot of the time. It hurts a lot. Yeah. Does not, Susan. There's just, Kathy's like Atlas over there. She pumps iron. She does it. Yeah, I know. Nobody can compare to this one, but it does. She's the exception. No, wait a minute. Wait a second. And you break things easier. Wait, it's true. I find my share. Let me just say, Gary, I think that working out, everything you just said, like sometimes things hurt. But you know what? If we're working out and you're after the age of 30 you start losing muscle mass right so if we're maintaining or just losing slightly we're ahead of the game yeah that's true you are you are you know

from another angle a slightly different thing is um training your your mind to remain nimble yes this is a simple example but i was gone to mexico for two months i came back go to shady nook next store to say hi to friends and there's this momentary what was his name again because i hadn't seen him for two months and it's like the memory just is a little slower than it used to be and i really hate that you know i'm good friends i love my friend's like a complete crawl okay right go ahead gary you what you went to friends what so you want to hold your friends tight you want to honor them and you want to make sure that you maintain those relationships Because I think that's important as you get older.

And yet, you just now and then forget people's names. But let me just say, I have two things to say, number one, who are you talking to right now? It's a little mental challenge for you. Who are you talking to? What was it again? He's struggling here. And then that other zip-it-out. I would say, Gary, that one of the things that you haven't mentioned, but you're sort of mentioned it is, as we get older, some people fall into isolation.

and that loneliness and the isolation. So it takes more work as we get older. We have to get out, make new friends, have activities, because if we don't, the slide down is a whole lot faster, I think. I think you're 100% right. Shared with the world, that was our message coming off of that show, the first ever show. What we felt was it isn't over.

everybody life is not over keep moving get out it's full of possibilities yeah i mean we didn't get the guy what guy what guy oh you mean the guy oh you mean the guy that gave away gifts to everyone but me oh that guy Gary do you need my address to send me something because you know I'll send a team yeah we love you yeah we love you no I'm so happy for you though yeah we really are We pull your chain, I pull your chain, but we are genuinely happy for you, really. Does she realize she has to meet us? Oh, yeah, that comes. Have you told her yet?

I think it would be fun. Oh, yeah, there's been a lot. Wait a second, Gary, you did, and I'm putting it out to Bachelor Nation, so you can't deny it. Susan, back me up on this. Gary, did you or did you not say you were going to have a bunch of us out to go out on your boat? Oh, yes. I did. He did.

Past tense. No, that is an open invitation. We need a date right now. We need a date in a time, Gary. Yep. And everybody shows up and we party like crazy. That would be a very popular event here, man. Yes, it would.

Totally renewed the celebrity status. It would amp up like you would not believe. Listen, will you make me a drink? Because I made you vodka and cranberry on the show. Will you make me a drink? I absolutely would. I absolutely would. And I'll cook always.

Yeah. Oh my God, that'd be awesome. Well, you know, you can make a plan. But Gera, how grateful are you to this day of having this happen in your life, having that opportunity? I mean, did it not change so many things? I have expressed that gratitude many times, many different ways to many people. granted, the whole experience wasn't all 100% great, but my personal development, the things that I've been able to do, the fun I have, being around people, oh, God, it was amazing and it still is amazing. I actually love going through Indianapolis Airport because it's still like everybody knows who I am and it's all fun.

Did you learn anything that you didn't know about yourself? Yes. And that question has answered before, and it's an easy one. I didn't know I was so easy to cry about stuff. Oh, I know. Wait a minute. You, wait a minute. You didn't know, I'm being serious, you didn't know that you were a crier?

No, no. Kathy, it's like this. Wow. I think I got much more empathetic when my wife passed away, okay? I can't believe you just said that. Gary. Why? Because I say that all the time. I've always cared about people and even though I have this big personality, I don't like to hurt people's feelings. After my husband Daryl died, I am so even more empathetic. I've just never heard anyone express it what I feel. And by a very clear

watershed moment. Yes. And then with each passing month and year, I feel like it became more that way. I genuinely felt like I cared for people and their well-being much, much more. And so then, you know, the experience of sending women home after I tried so hard to form a bond with them on the show. Yeah. You know, that's just one example. My wife and I used to watch Chicago Med and Chicago Fire, and there's always about relationships. I sit down and watch that show now and I have to turn away because it gets me. And, of course, I think about my wife, but. And you have a heart. I can't.

Honestly, you got me on this one because I've been pulling your chain all day and having fun with you because you know I love you. But in the friendship, friendship way, but I honestly, those are the things I watch. I cannot, A, I can't watch anything violent just because of my husband's death. But anything that I watch, I used to make fun in good fun of my husband who, cried at everything. He would cry at sappy movies. And I say, what is wrong with you? It's Hollywood. It's not, I mean, we used to laugh about it. From the day he's died, I am a crier that I never used to be. And Susan will always say to me, did you cry? I just don't

announce it, but I'm so much more of a crier now than I ever was. You're in touch with your emotions now. I cry over Hallmark, the Clydesdale commercial. Susan, you cry over changing the TV channel. Let's just be honest. You both mentioned something that I heard. You have more empathy than you ever had. I, however, was cursed at birth. And I have so much empathy. I would love to give some away because I'd take it home with me. I could never be a nurse. You know what I mean? I'm taking care of people. I'd bring that home. And I love that you both feel that. And all people in the world should recognize that quality that they do have within. them and it would be a better place.

Yeah, you're right. One of the nice things I realized about this empathy is it's not just about sorrow or suffering, but Kathy, if you can attest to this, Susan, I feel very empathetic when someone succeeds nicely. They overcome a challenge. It's like you want to celebrate for them and you feel so good for them. And that's the other side of that coin. You get the joy of that.

I think you just, I can't speak for everyone, but I feel emotions, as you just said, it's not just the savans, but the, the, you know, ebullent. When something good happens to people, I'm just like, oh, it's like I want to celebrate. Exactly what you just like. Yeah, I want to celebrate with him. That's why Bachelor Nation fans like me because I did Teresa's hair. When she asked me to curl it this way, I go, do you know how long I've been doing hair? That's not celebrating, Susan.

No, it was because I was excited. that she had the date. You're a boss. I was happy for her. That was important. Are you going to do my hair if I get her date? Will you do my hair if I get her date? Don't I always.

Yes. You guys go ahead and talk amongst yourself. So I'll just sit over here in Indiana and wait. Oh no, Gary. We're coming. We're coming, Gary. Listen, we need a date and a time. I actually need a date and a date if you get it.

I do. I get it. And I can only help you out with half of that. You know what? I'll put a want to add out. he has the one all right Gary we love you

we're so happy for you and we're calling your daughters as soon as we're done and no no I got a month to be dull all right well that's going to do it it's going to do it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour

thanks Gary we really did enjoy having you you gave out some great advice we knew you would we are both so happy. I'm speaking for Susan as well. We're happy that you seemingly have found someone that at least right now is making you happy and that makes us both really happy. I absolutely love talking to the two of you. Pleasure in this has been all mine. At one time. I know we each chat separately, but when you get two on one, Gary, no, we're always laughing. We're always smiling. Isn't that like a golden Oreo sandwich?

Oh, I like that. Gary's the middle, Susan. You are not always the centerpiece, Susan. Jeez, Louise. And Bachelor Nason and all our other fans, thanks so much for joining us today. And make sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new shows coming out every week,

and you don't want to miss them. I mean, come on. If you enjoyed listening to Gary today, as we did in having this chat, that we've got more coming so make sure you submit your questions to us your comments your thoughts uh you know your guesses on who gary's dating we want to hear it all all you got to do is go to bachelor nation dot com slash golden hour or DM us on instagram at bachelor happy hour and when we find out cats we're telling oh yeah we're telling oh yeah gary your toes buddy

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