Bachelor Happy Hour - Golden Monogamy | Golden Hour

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are back answering more of your questions! We kick off the episode with our question of the day: What does monogamy look like in your golden years? Then, we get into your questions, and they’re all about Golden relationships trying to go the distance! From friends rebounding quickly to men dodging monogamy in their older years, our listeners need help and we’re coming to the rescue! Plus, we rattle off some rapid-fire advice, tackling our most-asked questions! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Like, it was never a princess. Make sure you listen to this episode is politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo,

this was the choice he failed. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back, everybody. We're here to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour, Kathy and I, are so excited to join you again. How excited are we to be back together? I know, right? I mean, we've had busy weeks going on here, right?

Spring is sprung. I'm out sweating, walking. What have you been up to? Broken my arm. I mean, my wrist. I have surgery. I love it. Susan says broke my arm.

I keep saying you broke your wrist. It's still attached to my arm. It's part of my arm. That is one way to look at it. All right. We are going to, we're going to talk about Susan. wrist my dating life and we're also going to answer more of your fan questions please y'all make sure you're submitting to us we love reading them we love answering them it's super you know what to do

go to bachelor nation dot com slash golden hour and just submit away comments questions send it all to us everything because we want to know all of it you know what you can also DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. You know what, Susan, we love, we just got to say this one more time, we love getting your updates. So if we've answered one of your questions, please, please, write us an update and tell us how things are going for you, because we really want to hear about it. Yeah, whether you took our advice or not, and you did the opposite of what we said, but we want to know the outcome. Yeah, we do. That's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. Okay, today, we're going to get into the episode, but first, as always, we're going to start,

the titillating question of the day. Here we go. You ready? Yep. What does monogamy mean when dating in your senior years? What of your long distance? Is it necessary to be monogamous? And what does that look like? Is it just sex? I need the drum roll here. What do you think, Susan? So monogamy is monogamy. It meant the same thing when I was 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60. And what does it mean to you? Well, what does it mean? You're just you and him. One. Does it mean you're just dating? Just having sex? Define it for me. Get out your Webster's dictionary. Well, see, for me, it's always a relationship with one person. I'm not arguing with you. I just want to see.

included when you're in a relationship. I mean, there's a friend with benefits. Is that monogamous? Well, I don't know because there's no rules when there's just a friend with benefits. No. I mean, I can honestly tell you, and I'm not asking you, but I'm just telling you, I've never had a friend with benefits because to me, sex is more than just, hey, you know, let's have sex tonight and get up and have donuts or bagels. in the morning. I mean, that's just sex. That's just sex. Some people choose

to just do that. I don't judge them. And then it says, what if you're long distance? So when I heard you say that, that means phone sex. No, the first thing that came to mind is trust issues. Okay, let's go down that road.

Let's go down that road. Okay. So dating long distance, you know, I'm in a position. My kids are grown. I've always said, If I meet the right guy, I'm leaving. I'm going to be with that guy and I'm going to travel, you know, back to see my grandkids and my children. Having said that, if I have trust issues, I'm not going to be with that guy.

It could never work. It could never work. Right. I mean, but monogamy to me is, I don't care what age. I agree with these seasons. I don't care what age it is. Monogamy means one man, one woman. or two men and two women, whatever it is, two people together,

and not with other, not with other people. However, I could be dating a guy now. Could I have, I'm asking you, could I have, I have some male friends. Could I, could I still go out with them? On a date? Or just to hang out. Hang out, go for dinner, go to a more. Friends, that's friends.

But would you be okay if he had female friends and went out? I hate you. Honestly, I think the thing is, it would depend on the guy. And it's a conversation, don't you believe? It's a conversation. I know me. I know me. I have male friends, but I'm not sleeping with them, you know, they're friends.

We go out to dinner. I go to his house. That's not a date, though. Yeah, but. I have to say, I'd have to really be so comfortable with that guy that I'm with in that monogamous relationship that every minute he's thinking about me, not, I mean, that would be. Exactly. You have to have the trust and understand each other. Are you a trusting person? Because I am. Yeah, too much. So do you think long distance then is hard?

I think it could be because you're going to want. to or me I would want to be with that person more if he lived four miles away or 25 miles away rather than have to take a flight when I see long distance to me you got to fly somewhere to see them but if that were the case how exciting because you're looking forward to who were we interviewing was it Ben who were we talking to and they said they set it up before they left each other. Yes. It was Ben. Yes. And they had that date. You know it's coming. Let's go home. Let's do what we need to do. And you look forward to that day. I think that can work. So, so what would you say to a, just for convenience here, we're going to, I'm going to talk heterosexual relationships. But this

applies to all for as far as I'm concerned. If you were dating a guy long distance, And he, you know, he said to you, look, you're my girl, but, you know, I sleep with other women, but it's just sex. Would you ever be okay with that? No, I couldn't do that. I couldn't do it either. I couldn't do it. Because to me, it's not just sex. That's intimacy.

Well, there's several forms of intimacy, I think. Yes. And sex is one form of intimacy. It's not just sex. I mean, it is. It's sex. Well, that's the thing. What if the guy said to you, you know, look, it's just sex.

Then he's not monogamous. No, that's what I'm saying. Could you, I can't, but I could imagine a man saying, oh, no, monogamy to me means I love you. You're the woman I care for. Sex is just, you know, bodily function. I'm just really, I couldn't do it, but I think there are men out there that think that's okay. he won't be my guy my guy is we're not asking him the question we are seniors do no it doesn't to me it would not matter but then it says is it necessary to be monogamous and what does that

look like is it to me yeah it is necessary it's necessary yeah and it's never just sex and you know when when you think about it i don't know women so i've been told Women attach a lot more meaning to sex. Oh, yes. To men, I think sex is a sex. That's it. Oh, you think really if a man loves you, you don't think there's anything beyond just physical release?

I don't believe that. I mean, he could be more into it because he loves you, but sex is sex. Oh, wow. For the man. Oh, I don't believe that. Yeah. But okay.

Okay. So, so. Every man is different too. I can't say. Every man. Hold on. If you believe sex is just sex, no, I didn't say that was my belief. For a man. I said for a man. Oh, okay. If you're saying that, then you're buying into, uh, it's just sex. I love you. You know, you're dating Joe. I'm making a name up here. Yeah, yeah. Joe, I love you, Susan. You're the woman of my dreams. But he's having sex with Kathy three days ago. And that's not. It's just sex, but it's just sex, Susan. I don't love her. It's still not okay, not in my world anyhow. But it's okay in their world.

Some, yeah, I guess it is. So all you men out there, all these men out there, if you're interested in Susan or me, let me let me cut this down to the simplest of terms for you. Monogamy means you're only having sex with us. One person. Well, not both of us together, obviously. You're only having sex. That would be monaget twa.

which, you know, it's a whole other conversation for another time. But I'm just saying that's for us, I think women believe that monogamy is just having sex with one person. And do you know, I actually know women, not many, that had relationships, I guess you can call them, open relationships that they had sex and they dated it. And yet the guy and the girl had other partners that they dated and had sex. I don't think I could handle it. Oh, I know. I had a guy, I wasn't going to tell you this, and I certainly wasn't going to put it on a podcast, but since no one's listening, but you and me were just talking among us, I had a guy reach out to me the other day who said, you are absolutely stunningly beautiful. I would love to meet you, but I need you to know I'm in an open marriage. Oh, yeah. I've seen. How fast did I block him? Like, no. Well, I would respond it and said, I'm so, I respect your honesty. However, that's not my game.

You know what? I had to watch the dust grow on the furniture. I only had so much time and I chose to watch the dust grow. No, I'm not responding to that. I'm not dignifying that with an answer. Absolutely not. Let's move on. Yeah, right?

Oh, boy. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van,

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Should we get into our fan questions or should we keep talking about monotonous? Oh, I don't know. Please, let's get into the fan questions. I'm in. Okay. You want to go first? Do you want me to read? Oh, knock yourself up.

Go. Okay. This is from Anonymous. Hi, ladies. I have been dating this guy for the past six months and it's been going well for the most part. At 62 years old, I am just so excited to be in a relationship and it's really been fun. We live about three hours away from one another. But see each other a few times a month and we text and call all the time. Unfortunately, over the past few weeks, my guy has been saying some things. that have raised some red flags for me and I need help knowing if I should stick around or move on. We have been working on defining our relationship and thinking about where we could be down the road. He made a comment about how I would be the last vagina he ever sleeps with and it really grossed me out. Wait, Susan. Wait, stop. You said vagina like you weren't sure what. it was vagina? I can't believe

he said that. You're going to be my last vagina. E. Meaning monogamy. Go ahead. Keep going on. The last vagina he ever sleeps with

and it really gross me out. He also is still on dating apps. Though he said he doesn't necessarily talk to anyone there, it's just for looking. Oh boy. I went into our next date or hang.

Hang out. Hang out. Yeah. Hang out. thinking that I was going to break up with him. But then he told me that he loves me. It's been very confusing and mixed

signals. I really do love him and have had so much fun with him and don't want to be single again. Any advice is appreciated. Love you both. Can I jump in? Can I jump in? Yes, please.

Anonymous. Here's my gut reaction, my intuition. You can be single now. or you can go down the road with this guy and you trust and believe me, you'll be single later. This guy has no clue. He does not want you to be the last vagina he ever sleeps with. He clearly, it does not want to be monogamous.

But Kathy, did you notice she said, we have been working on defining our relationship and thinking about where we could be down the road? Uh-huh. Where we could be down the road is he's got several other vaginas he's dealing with. That's where you're going to be down the road. And you know what? It's okay back to what we said earlier. If you agree to that, it's great.

But my guess is based on what Anonymous is saying, she's not okay with multiple vaginas being in her life. So I hope to God, because it grossed her out, she addressed that with him when she saw him. that would be one of the things I would talk to him about why would you say last vagina that is not well that's disrespectful that's just gross it is disrespectful but but you missed what is that who he is i mean he's not on my dance card list i can tell you but wait she said but then he told me he loved me ladies please i'm going to speak for susan and me together susan correct me if i'm wrong ladies the be all to end all is not that a man tells you he loves you it's in his actions it's in his behavior it is words are easy words are words words are cheap actions are what defines

a man it's what defines everyone don't listen to what i say watch what i do so i think think Anonymous, you are getting sucked in because he told you he loves you. He didn't say he loves you and he's not going to sleep around or find other. And let's not forget, he's still on a dating site. Well, that's because he's looking, Susan, do you know why he's on it? He's looking. No, he stopped the sentence there. He said, I'm just looking.

He's looking for other vaginas. And if she doesn't see that. That's what they decide. I'm saying, sweetie, anonymous, if you don't see this for what it is, I'm sorry. You might have to learn a tough lesson, but I would have the conversation with him. Definitely a conversation. If you're okay with multiple sex partners, then move forward in this relationship. But if you're not.

Isn't my last vagina? I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. Ew. Throw up in my mouth. Okay.

That's disgusting. Last vagina, Kathy? I mean, it's. I don't know. Don't drive three hours. ever again for a last vagina man, okay? Just no. Just say that. Well, no, wait. If it is the last vagina, wait, can we have a dollar for every time we said vagina in this podcast? The last vagina, I'll give you 10 bucks. All right, we're moving on. Good luck. Let us know. Oh, and by the way,

and I'm being serious here. If he's sleeping around, you better require condoms and a blood test, a STD test every time you're sick of them. Exactly, a note from the doctor. Good luck. Good luck, Anonymous. Let us know how it goes. Okay, our next one is another anonymous. Kathy, really? Wait, just pause. Think about this. What? What would your reaction be if he said that to you? I can't get past it. Susan, my deal. You're going to be my last vagina.

My supposed to go, ooh, I love you. I don't know, but I think I have to be honest with you. You and I are confident women. And I think this guy has probably given off. vibes that are disgusting in other ways but she's put up with it so um the fact that he is on dating sites and she says he doesn't necessarily talk to him when they're anonymous i'm willing to bet my i'm willing to bet my last you know my grandchild trust and believe he is talking to other women people are not on dating sites to look you want to go window shopping go to the

sporting goods store. Okay? Okay. Good luck, sweetie. Hi lady. This again, from Anonymous. Hi, ladies. My 62-year-old neighbor lost his wife of 40 years 18 months ago. Oh, I'm sorry. She was the love of his life and was beloved by everyone. Two months after her death, he sold their home and moved to a 55 and up community. I thought it was quick, but after his wife's long battle with cancer, I'm sure. he needed a change. After vacationing with us and another couple in January, he opened up about being lonely and said he was ready to begin dating. We were happy to hear this. He's a wonderful man, smart, successful, attractive, and has a great personality. Two weeks ago, he had a first

date with a lady he met online. In those two weeks, they've met each other's young adult children, have had dinner with very close friends, have babysat his grandchild, and has seen each other every single day. He even shared with me last evening that he's had the pre-nup talk with her already. I thought to myself, whoa, what's the hurry? Seems like this is moving at warp speed. I care for this guy and would hate to see him rush into something as serious as marriage. Do I have heart to heart with him about my concerns or keep my mouth shut and just be happy for him? I'm leaning toward the ladder. Thanks, Concerned Friends.

Anonymous, you got it right, baby. Keep your mouth shut. Because people can meet and can fall really quick. And if people... It does happen. If people do see... Other people watching, I think it's harder for

because they think, oh, what is she, money hungry or whatever it is or is he just desperate because he's lonely but here's the thing susan yeah here's the thing if it doesn't work out they've tried to make it work out and they've enjoyed the time together and time is short folks time is short and when you're golden years and joy the short it's not like you're 23 and have to build the future and buy your first house and have children yeah yeah so i say anonymous you know i know we're going to catch some flack for this but i would never have said this you know earlier in my life but now you find the man that you think you love you find the woman that you think you love go for it jump in and see what happens because

you don't get these days back. You don't get this time back. You know, as much as we hate to admit it, Susan, we talk about this being our last chapter and our best chapter. And for us both, I think it is. But you know what? Don't waste a day of it. Don't waste a day. If it doesn't work out.

Kathy, if they're really close and she finds him alone and they're talking, she could say something. But just say, you know, I'm so happy for you. You guys seem so happy. And are you sure? You know, is this what you want do, you know, something like that on an

up note on a positive note. Yeah, yeah. I just, honestly, I'd have them over for dinner. So would I. Yeah, I would just be happy. You know what I'd be saying? If you like her, then we like her. You know what I'd be saying?

Damn it. Another one I lost out on. Why couldn't it be me? That's exactly what I'd be saying. You knew it. You knew it. True that. All right.

All right. Well, you know what, concerned friend, just be a friend. Yes, be a friend and be supportive. Be there. and please let us know. And I'm going to just take Susan's line away from her. If they decide to get married, please reach out to Susan. She's a wedding officiant.

She'd be so happy to do it. And I will come along with her and throw the rose petals. But you know what? Can I add something, Kathy? Sure. At my age, I don't necessarily think you have to get married. Oh, either do I. I would like to be engaged so you know I'm with that person.

No, Susan, you want to be engaged so you can have a ring. Just be honest. Of course I do. I haven't won one in a really long time. Okay. So, yeah, you could live together. I mean, all those pre-ups and all that. None of that is necessary.

I, well, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. In many states, if you cohabitate for seven years and you live together for more than one year. One? Yeah. And you share bills, your name is on a bill. You are then considered legally. married and that so absolutely i would i would have a but how do you feel about it would you just live

with somebody or do you have to be married i do not at our age i do not um feel the need to get married but if i met the man who love me and said you know i want to marry you by my side every minute of the day and i loved him and we loved each other that much i would consider getting married but i will be honest. What if he asked you to just move in? I would have a pre-up. I would. But my situation's different, Susan. You know, my husband, well, it feels different to me. My husband worked really hard for the money he earned. And I want my children to get that money. Anybody at our age is going to, you know, have it go to their families or kids and their grandkids. But I'm not saying, but I would support myself. I would contribute to our joint living.

All of those things. But in terms of wealth, transferring wealth, you know, my kids... That's a whole different story. Yeah. So I would probably have a peanut. But no, I don't feel the need to be married, but I will never, I'm old enough now to say, I will never say never on anything. Would you get married?

I don't know. No or you don't know. I don't know. That's not my goal. My goal is to find my person and live together and enjoy each other. the marriage part is, I mean, I could marry us, you know. Susan's going to be sitting in the bedroom quiet night over a bowl of popcorn. Hey, let's get married.

I'm going to perform the ceremony. And to me, that is the most important thing. When you're looking in somebody's eyes and it's just the two of you and sharing why you want them in your lives and how they make you happy or vice versa. And I commit myself to you. And you commit yourself to me. That's marriage. Wait, can we put the word monogamous in there, please? You're only having sex with me. But I'm happy for your neighbor.

Yeah. You know what? Really, mausel. I am so happy for your neighbor. I wish them happiness. I hope you wish them happiness. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics. much more than you giving credit for. Fans taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van,

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Oh boy. As we all know, dating in your golden years is tough. It is. And it's not necessarily really openly spoken about. So we are here today, Susan. We are going to change that. We want, I think we really should discuss some major themes that we see in our listener write-ins as well as in, you know, our experiences and our friends' experiences.

Are you in? Fair enough. Yeah. All right. So the end, some of these are, I'm just. going to warn you, some of these are tough because we are of a certain age. Okay, how do you navigate dating with health issues? You know, at our age, Susan, whether we want to believe it or not, health issues can be serious and ongoing. So, you know, how do you feel about that? I think you should

be, if you're in a monogamous relationship, of course, monogamous, that you have to be honest if you have health issues. I mean, you can't just surprise them. No, but how do you, but, you know, I would want to know if my partner that I'm dating has health issues. I mean, I would too, but I told you some of these are going to be hard. Let's just say you find out, you meet a guy and you're, you know, really into him and you've been dating a couple.

I mean, I'm making this up, obviously. You've been dating a couple of months and you find out the guy has Parkinson's. or he's been diagnosed with, you know, a blood cancer, some kind of leukemia. How are you going to feel about that? Because it's not, well, you know, that's going to be an ongoing way. We have to ask yourself the question, are you here to take care of him? Do you love him enough? Do you love him enough to be there for him in the bad times?

Because that's, you know, when you get older, shit happens, if you will. Yeah, but Susan, wait, that's for me. Are you willing? Wait a minute. me that's the difference. When you get married, you know, when I got married at 20 and at that altar and they said, do you promise to love in sickness and in health? You know, sickness was a long way off. Right? You're thinking if you had the flu, we just still take it. Exactly like, oh, shit, I got to bring him chicken a little soup. He's got the flu. I don't know. Maybe I will,

maybe I will. I'm talking serious health issues. And so if you get involved with someone who has a serious on going health issue. I mean, you've got to think about your life. I don't know. Is that okay with you? You won't get to do all the fun things that you thought you could do at this stage of the game, get up and go, if he's ill or she is ill, do you want? My Italians that we love so much, Kathy, you know, my best friends that we travel with a lot

and they're from Italy and they're beautiful people. And he worked all his life to go and enjoy. and she had a stroke. Yes, but Susan, the difference, they've been married forever. I'm saying dating in our golden years. I'm going to be, I'm nothing if not honest. I, if it were a terminal illness, I'd have a really hard time doing that. I would.

But would you do anything about it? Internally, you'd have a hard time, but would you stop seeing him because of it? you know what that's hard i i i'm just going to say for i this is not a judgment on any man who may want to date for me with me but i've buried one husband the hardest of ways possible if if i were dating a guy a couple of months and they told me he told me that he had a terminal diagnosis he had just found out i don't know if i could do it susan it's it it it takes too much out of me At my age. I think it would depend on how I felt about the person.

You know, I'm going to get hate mail for this. You know I am. No, no, you're just being honest. I mean, I mean, I can deal with a chronic health situation, you know, things, but that's not life or death. I mean, we talked about one of our fan questions some time ago. She had a brain issue, remember, and the sex was none and she didn't want to do, couldn't do anything. and he hung in there for her. Yeah, but that's different.

It wasn't life or death. No, no, it wasn't. I think for me it's the life for death deal. It was a couple years. That's a long time. Yeah, no, I know. You know, yeah. All right.

So what about the next one? Do you share finances? Do you get a pre-nup? You know, when you get married young, you're in it together, to build your lives together, right? But in your golden years, you know, some of us have generational wealth, some of us have debts. How do you feel?

Yeah, I'd like to know if they're in debt because I'm not doing it. You're not doing what? I don't want somebody that's in debt. I want somebody that can take care of themselves. Would you, wait a minute. What if he's in debt but he's paying his debt because he's working? He's paying. Okay.

Or you have, you know, you're saying you don't want to pay for someone else's debt. Yes. Nor would I ever expect anybody to pay for mine. would you would you want a pre-know would you share your finances with them would you show them how much money you have i got i'm an open book i probably in my brains telling me no you shouldn't tell them everything but the other side of me is if i'm that in love with you you need to know everything but you also need to know it's for my children so for me I would have to be living with the guy before I would share my financial wealth.

But by then we've already had a pre-up and he would know that I'm going to support me. I'm going to, you know, we're going to have a joint checking account. We're going to share the expenses of the house unless he wants to pay for it all. And then I'm going to graciously say thank you. Well, I say he can pay for the house should be paid for by them. But if it's not, you're paying the mortgage, then I chip in on the utility bills or my food shopping. Of course, that probably costs more than the mortgage. Wait, can I just tell you?

More than the mortgage. I'm sorry, I got to deviate one second here. Susan goes shopping. We're, you know, for a week. She's short, I mean, I don't, we all know, Kathy doesn't cook. Literally, we walk out, she goes, it wasn't bad. It was only 400 euros. I'm like, Susan, it's like that's more than $400 for one week of groceries.

Just putting it out there. It wasn't even a whole week of groceries. Well, I was trying not to embarrass you. further. Okay. Now, Kathy, let me ask you, when is the right time that you're going to integrate your families, okay? People have established routines with lives, we're families. Now, when do you think it's time, not just to meet him, but his family? And do you think that works? Do you think that ever is going to be like, oh, I can't wait to call my stepbrother or, you know? Well, I can tell you

I've done this a couple of times with guys that I dated for more than 10 minutes and integrating I did it slowly invited my kids to come to dinner one night when he was here

yes Susan I did cook dinner that night I think you had you ordered didn't you tell you such a bitch I know she did I cooked all right it was in the microwave no I really called me last week and show me a video. Can I just share

Susan? I'm going to make hamburgers tonight. I go on the grill now in the house and stove. Why? What do I do? She says. Wait, the picture she sent of the blackened mess. Okay. This is, I mean, she ruined the pan. Okay, wait. We're talking,

we're talking dating, but we have to stick to the almonds with Andrew. We've got to stop with this story. I, um, my grill, you can't make this shit up by grill about oh i don't know six weeks ago i was cooking something and the the residue caught on fire and my son's a firefighter i was like oh my god freaked out close something down the fire went out haven't touched that grill since then you just need to clean the underneath well now i learned how to clean the grill and i did i did but prior to cleaning

the grill i wanted to make hamburgers and so i thought i will this is a true story folks I was on the phone chatting with Nancy from our season, who I adore, and I'm cooking the hamburger, and I said, Susan, how do you cook a hamburger on the stove? She told me what to do, so I started doing it, cooking it. I was talking to Nancy. I turned around. My whole stove is on fire. Flames everywhere. I went, oh, my God, because the grease from the hamburger had caught on fire. So between that and all the panics. Because it was set to high. Whatever. It was a little blackened. You've heard of blackened seafood. No, no, no, no, no, no, it was not edible. It was charred I ate every last bite It was delicious And see that's the problem She don't even know the difference

I can't I can't Susan lives to eat I eat to live Okay moving right along So yeah How soon Like I have a big mouth

Like I get excited If I meet somebody That I really like And I've seen a couple times I want to tell my kids about it Yeah You don't I do

Oh no I may tell my children I'm dating someone I just, Susan, I have not, you know, since my husband died, I've dated a couple of guys for any length of time. And my children met them and my children liked them, but I waited, you know, I told them, I said, I'm dating a guy, you know, I think I'm going to date them, you know, I'm seeing somebody, but it's not a one date guy. But I, my children are adults and again, you're divorced.

That's different. my husband died by suicide and my kids are very sensitive particularly my daughter about and it's six years right just was six years but you know it's it's it was her dad she was young sure i'm very careful about who i introduce my kids to um at casual dates no and i would encourage people if you're dating in your golden years don't feel the rush to you know this guy you've had two dates with to introduce them to your children and your grandchildren. But then say you're in it like the better part of a year and it's a holiday. Do you invite his kids as well as yours?

You know, that's a tougher one. I think it depends on the dynamic between you and your kids. Would you do it? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, they all come. Well, Susan has a house full of 90, you know, at every holiday. So really one boyfriend. My ex-husband is still here, too.

Excuse me. One boyfriend more or less really just kind of melds into the crowd. No one cares. All right. Kath. Yeah. What are you really looking for in a relationship? That is so easy for me to answer, Susan.

Good. I'm looking for the guy who loves me for who I am, wants to spend time with me, wants to wake up next to me, isn't trying to change me. is just so happy that I've come into his life and he's come into my life. Pretty simple. And I make you smile. And I make him smile pretty much. What about you?

Same? Yeah. It's just not that hard. Okay. On that, that was fun, I like this new game, Kathy. Of course you do because it's not, it's not, what was the one you hated?

I have to answer for you what you would do. Yeah, exactly. We've forgotten it. All right. It's all forgotten. Anyway, thank you all to our listeners. We hope, you know, you learned you certainly learned about Kathy's fires on the grill and on the stove you've learned

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