Bachelor Happy Hour - Grant Is Shooting His Shot!

Episode Date: July 18, 2024

Today on “Happy Hour,” we have Grant from Jenn’s season with us! Grant kicks off today’s episode by telling us a little bit more about himself. From his background as an international basketball player and a day trader and now to “The Bachelorette,” we get into it all! Then, we dive into Grant’s experience on the show so far. What’s his take on all the drama? What’s his connection with Jenn really like?  Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with our guests from Jen's season. He did get an early rose. His name is Grant. Grant, welcome to the podcast. Meet you guys. Everybody, I'm Grant. You know, as introduced, they did a great job on introduction and hopefully everything goes well today. Really, I think I could have did a better job.

I could have added a little more in there, but I appreciate it. Well, we're going to get into it. You can help us with your introduction, because what we know about you is you were a professional athlete overseas. What sport? Basketball. Basketball. Okay. And where did you play?

I played in Puerto Rico, Mexico, Dominican Republic, and I was going to have a stint in Spain, but that didn't work out. So, yeah, I played in three countries. Which one was your favorite? Probably Puerto Rico, honestly. It's very beautiful city. I like the tropical five. You know, the people were nice. Fans were great.

And the league was pretty good. Where are you from? So I'm originally from New Jersey. But right now, Houston. And, yeah, that's where I'm staying right now. But I'm originally from New Jersey. I'm in New Jersey. Okay.

Okay, nice. We're in New York, so not too far away. All right. Now, it does say that you're a day trader. What does that mean? So, traditionally, I trade traditional stocks. I trade the S&P 500. Okay.

Instead of long-term investing, I'm kind of in there a little more risk, but the chance for greater returns are a lot better. So, yeah, I'm just in their intraday and I'm trading the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ. And, yeah, two or three times a week and, you know, try to make a consistent return. What are you trading futures? Futures, yes, sir. Okay. You trade any options?

No, I don't trade options just because, you know, they have, you know, your contract expires and options. So like the theme of that, you know, I just, I'm in there, you know, typically two or three hours a day and just just the future's pocket option. So you're just, you're, you're essentially speculating the S&P 500. That's what you're doing. Right. Yeah.

So I rely on algorithm principles, you know, to try to, if-than statements, you know, if the market does this, then I buy. If the market does that, then I sell. And over a period of 10 or 20 trades, I just try to have, you know, not even more winners it loses, but just try to have more returns than a greater returns on my winners than I know. What do you what are you trading on? What platform?

So right now I'm trading with a proprietary firm called Topstick. Then I have my own capital that I trade with on Meditrader sometime. I trade on Meditrager, and then I have a Pinker Swin. Okay. Okay, nice. Yeah, I used to trade open outcry at the Chicago

Mercantile Exchange. I traded I traded NASDAQ Futures and S&P future. So I was curious. Yeah. Yeah. I was in the pit though. I was doing, yeah, pit trading.

So this was a while ago. This was like 15 years ago. Cool, though. That's very cool. I like that. It's just so crazy. You've had so many lives. Like, you're like, yeah, I used to trade in the pit at the NASDAQ.

But now I do Bachelor Happy Hour. Yeah. Yeah, truly. No, it's definitely, but that's cool. But that's cool. That's definitely dope. Yeah. What do you, how do you feel about Bitcoin?

Man, I'm, I'm a traditional guy. I'm not really into the coins. I might dabble in it here and there, maybe in the future, but I'm just, you know, I'm traditional stocks because they're safer. You know what I'm saying? And it's not as predictable as the S&B. Okay. Gotcha.

Okay. How- Just like, don't tell me that I have all my money in crypto. How? I'm a Bitcoin believer. How did you get on the show? So, believe it or not, my mom signed me up. I was coming out of a long-term seven-year relationship, and that ended.

And, you know, I wasn't dating. I was trying to focus on work, and she was always asking her friends at work, oh, your son and my daughter, and I was just like, no, my mom, okay. And then she saw a golden bathroom. And she was like, you know what? I'm going to sign you up. and then I got a call, and then the rest is history. Well, were you, when you were playing basketball overseas,

were you in that relationship? Yes, I was. I was in that relationship when I was playing basketball overseas. We actually met in college, and yeah, that was in the place. And that was a long-distance relationship, I'm assuming, or did she live with you? No, when I was overseas with long distance, and then when I come back, you know, we stayed together, and, yeah, so it was long distance when I was overseas, and if I was back home.

Seven years. That's long. Yeah, I was getting pretty there. I was a long relationship. But ultimately, I learned from it. You know, I learned to carry over into my next relationship. Would you do another long-term relationship if need be? You mean long distance?

I was like, I'd hope he'd do another long-term relationship. He's on the back. Would you do that shit again? No, would you do another long distance is what I meant to say, yeah. it's it just adds extra weight on the relationship you know what I'm saying if it had to be that way if it was like no other option I'm not going to leave because of that but I wouldn't opt for it yeah no that's fair I think I think they're I think long distance relationships for a chunk of time is very difficult yeah absolutely

why did the relationship not work out people who are ultimately different life paths different goals, different life paths. And we just, we just grew apart and we just decided, it was amicably to end it. We just decided to end it together. And, you know, it was something that I appreciate everything that I learned and I appreciate her. And, yeah, we just, we just support. I guess that's honestly, like, that's kind of like best case scenario for a breakup.

Like, like, just like kind of growing apart, I would say is like more ideal. Like if our relationship, our marriage was ever to end. what do you say I just say like I feel like that is almost like the healthiest way because then like

neither person like hurt the other one you know I mean I'm sure it was still very sad to end such a long relationship and like lose someone

that's been in your life for so long but yeah I mean I guess if you know cheating or infidelity or you know blind sightings involved that's hard

whatever I'm trying to look at the glass half ball I know I would say it But she, you know, she had different plans. And, you know, heart never breaks even. I think that sounds cliche. But, you know, so I ultimately was the one, you know,

I think I was a little more hurt by it than her. But at the end of the day, I respect the decision. And, you know, I'm never going to beg you to stay. Yeah. Yeah. Where were you at mentally then going on to the Bachelorette? Like, where were you at in your life, in your love life? Were you dating, super single, like, ready for everything?

So I'm super ready. I'm super ready. I feel like I took my time to Hugh. I took my time that was needed. And, you know, I matured from it. And that's why ultimately I was so ready. And with Jen and our connection, I feel like we're strong because I was open, you know? And I'm like a type of guy like, yo, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm not going to go on there and pull anything back. So I went on it. I went on the show with open, with open heart, open on. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, you know what I'm saying? ready to explore a new relationship. What did you think of Jen when you first saw her? I thought she was beautiful. She's like right down my alley of what my type would be. She's smart, she's witty, you know, she knows how to carry herself. And she could throw those shots and take them. And, you know, I really, I really like that.

I really like the way she joked around. Only thing I didn't like is having to compete with 25 other guys for the same moment, you know, It was definitely a shit show of America. I'd say that. Yeah, I guess, yeah, when does that hit you? Like, the fact that, like, oh, there's 25 other guys here. It hits you when you come off one-on-one or you come off alone time, and then you got to go and parlay with everybody else,

and they're talking about, you know, saying this or that, or you might see her on a date, or, you know, it hits you when, you know, you're on a group date and she's kissing anybody else in front of you, and you're like, it's a lot. man it's okay though you know that's what I signed up for but you know you get you know you're like man like because you start to really develop feelings so it's like you know you start to you start to that edge starts to turn on and like okay I got to I got to spend my game I feel like it hit me

when everyone started saying how good their conversations went I was like not all 30 of us are having amazing conversations okay like this is crazy I'm like man did it go to Yeah, you're like, I thought mine was pretty good, but you're going to tell me everyone else also thought Thursday was pretty good. And it is. It's also one thing to know what you signed up for, because you're a smart

guy. It's like, you know, you get it. Like, this is what I signed up for. It's another thing to then experience it for the first time because then you're like, fuck, I know what I signed up for, but now I'm catching feelings for this girl, but she's making out with fucking John and now I'm pissed.

And feelings out ways. logic a lot of time. So you can be calculated, but once you start catching feelings, it's like, ah, man, yeah, John, you're banging out with John, and you walk in and you're like, you know? You're like, I didn't want to see that. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts,

Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them, them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's

life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America, as we know it, will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really

was my reality nine years ago. I'd just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. 22nd of July 2015. A 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast. called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison

or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number of people. a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life,

emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night, was so overwhelming and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Who? So, night one. How did you decide on your limo entrance?

You stepped out. Like that was, you stepped out. Back to like, oh, you think you killing me. You look back and you're like, oh, that was little cringy. But, you know, hey, listen, the way I'm looking at it, yolo, you know, you only live once and some people are going to like it, some people are going to not like it, so it just depends on how you, how you approach it. Now, you pulled it off. You did pull it off.

When you started, I was like, uh-oh. When you stepped out, we were both like, oh, no, he's going to rap, oh, no. And then you delivered it very confidently. We're like, okay, that was fine. That actually wasn't cringy. It was good. It's hard for me to watch it back, but hey, you know, it's, it's,

it's there now so I got to live with that you know yeah just lean in how do you did you feel any chemistry with Jen that first night yeah I did you know I've really felt the chemistry with her I felt like we had a great time

I thought we I felt like we connected on a lot of things and yeah I felt like we had really good chemistry were there any other guys that you were kind like what's his name Sam gets the first impression Rose, were you, like, did you expect that?

Initially, I didn't know kind of, because the first impression rose is like, you know, it's typically the person's CV type and, you know, it's what they're initially drawn to. What, you know, things change over time. So at first I was like, okay, that's your type and, you know, that's definitely some competition there. So I wasn't surprised, but I know ultimately, once you get to know somebody, things may, like things may get better, things may get worse, but it's ultimately how, you know, you carry yourself with the person.

And then, you know, I was like, maybe I could go on her, you know, and I'll just spend more time. Yeah. Okay. So let's get into, should you get into this week's episode? Yeah, let's do it. All right. So you go, you're one of the guys that gets picked to go on the first group date.

And you guys go into a food market and it was, I keep thinking reindeer balls. I know. I don't know why you're going reindeer. You're just so excited for Christmas. What was it? It was kangaroo. Okay, so first question. You guys, you were one of the guys that ate a kangaroo ball, right?

You did. That was. You was. Yeah, we saw you eat it. Okay. So you didn't know what you ate before you ate it, correct? I would not know. I was tricked into, I was tricked into it.

Okay, walk us through how that all played out. Like, how did it end up that all of you guys were eating kangaroo balls and not knowing it? So I don't know how much allowed that both, but I will say that. we were in a nice market and you know we did a couple things where there were different markets you know we had some cheese and we tried some legamite and we got a station where I walked away to do an interview and I came back and there was a what it looked like to be a meatball in a shot and all the guys told me was a meatball and then Jen was like you try this and I was like hey you know my mom in town yolo and I ate it and it tasted like a meatball you know what I didn't think it was I didn't know it was kangaroo balls until they told me. So you missed when they all did it. And then they... I came back and I was chewing on kangaroo balls.

And then the rest of the day, I'm like, hitting it out and kind of get out of mouth. Is it? And it tasted like a meatball. It wasn't bad? I mean, if it doesn't taste bad, then whatever. If I wasn't told that it was kangaroo balls, I would have never know. I would have thought it was deep fried?

No, it was baked, I think. I feel like psychologically though knowing that it was kangaroo testicles is what messes you up it's not the taste oh to me it would be the taste yeah but if it tastes totally fine but just like mentally thinking about that do you think you would have ate it if you if you knew what it was beforehand I'm the type of person like if you tell me if there's some meat there and you know somebody tells me for what it is because I'm a chicken salmon steak

so yeah okay and anything else it's like if you tell me I'm not going to eat it but if you don't tell me tell me after the verse

you know I've already ate it so what are you going to do you know at that point yeah how was

vegamite did that taste good listen whoever's washing in Australia a guy I don't know how you do it tasted like

it tasted like soy sauce that they tried to make sweet what if I don't know how to describe it was not but I guess someone someone else described it like that on the show actually it's disgusting

it doesn't didn't but it was crazy because the vendor was like oh you guys don't like it like totally shocked and you're all like no it's disgusting I don't like it at all it was gross but you know it was part of experience I tried was this your first time in Australia

yeah it was my first time in Australia I think all I think Thomas said that no one had been to Australia before. It's not really a place that I've considered on my bucket-a-loom, you know what I'm saying? But happy I went, you know, the experiences were good and everybody's driving on the other side of the road and everybody, yeah, it's like, it's, it's unique, you know what I'm saying? Don't the toilet slush the opposite way there, too?

Would they go up? They don't have two-pronged outlets. So it's like they have three-pronged outlets only. So, like, I brought some hair clippers and I brought some stuff, and I couldn't even use it because it had, there's no, two-prong outlets. Europe's the same way. Yeah, yeah, but they had they had adapters

but the adapters were, the wattage was different. So it like Yeah, I've heard that with people like and their dyes and hair dryers like they can't use them in Europe even with the adapters like the watts don't match up or something like that. Damn, that sucks. That sucks. Were you guys all excited to go to Australia?

I mean, it's not like it's not your typical way to start the show. Was everyone point for that? Was anyone like, oh, I wish you were hanging out in the Bachelor Mansion? Yeah. Everybody's excited. I was like, let's go. I was the same way. I was super excited. You know, only thing, the flight was long, but, you know, fine on the flight,

and everybody was talking and I'm sleeping, so. In the, out of all the guys, you know, you take this long flight, you have this, this night one. Who are you because, who's like, who are your boys right now? At this point. Oh, I'm close to everybody, but I talk to Hakeem a lot. I talk to Marr, I talk to Sam M, talk to Spencer, J. Mitch, Jonathan, I talk to all of them. Okay.

Gotcha. Okay. So you end up getting the group date rows. How does that make you feel? Why do you think you got it? Honestly, I think that it was a culmination of things. I think that it was the group date. I think it was our time spent on the one-on-one,

not the one-on-one, but the ceremony that night. You know, I just really laid it all out there on the line, and I was myself. And, you know, that's what ultimately got me gross. And, yeah, I feel like in that environment, all you can do is do yourself. That's what I did, and I really just reassured her while I was there. And I feel like that's why I got it.

Did any part of you wonder if, Devin was going to get the group date rose. I wasn't really worried about Devin, you know. I wasn't really worried about Devin, you know. He's a fellow. He lives in Houston. You know, I knew that he was going to be himself, but I wasn't really worried about any of the guys.

I was just, you know, what I was supposed to be focusing on. And, yeah, I didn't know what Devin and Jen's connection was or, you know, anybody else that was on the date. I was just kind of zoned in on what I had done. Well, that's, I mean, that's the smart way to do. it and this happens every year where like you there's certain guys that just don't worry about the other shit going on in the house and focus on themselves in the lead and you end up going pretty far on the show and then you have other guys that keep getting into it now was that

distracting or did you see like um the errand and devon beef at all yeah i was i was there i was there during the beef and i saw what was going on but yeah i didn't really like when two guys are beefing over stuff or they're starting drama or they're involved in that with each other I just kind of focus on myself I sit my wine I'll watch you know I might try to throw some pool on it

a little bit but I was like I wasn't really I didn't really know why they were I didn't really understand but I know that it gets pretty intense so yeah it looks like it we kind of have two parts of the drama in this episode the first being Devin stealing Jen for his little ice cream date

moment and then you guys are all roasting him and then Aaron and him get into it at the date. What's the vibe of the group? Like, are the guys kind of veering more towards Devon's side, more towards Aaron's side? Yeah, there was definitely some division in the house. It was like kick aside kind of thing. Oh, I kind of stay in the middle of it. Like, I kind of stayed neutral.

But, yeah, there was definitely a team that was with Aaron and there was guys that were Devin and, you know, because every situation is going to be two sides of the story. so we hear you say um like near the end of the episode which is kind of like we we recap the episode um and i was kind of i'm kind of in line with with you here because you're like well you know what like devon you kind of have balls like you stepped out and did what you had to do um is that how you felt in the moment yeah that's how i felt because you know there's always a situation where somebody smiles in your face and then says something behind your back but i felt there's though Devon, you know,

so he feels some type of way, he's going to say it, and that's how he's going to feel it. I'm sorry about the shit. Yeah, if he feels some type of way, that's what he's going to say, and he's going to let you know about it, and that's the way that I am. So I respected that.

I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss. us her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince

charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin.

So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy? Club. I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime produced? walks into a comedy club. A new podcast called Wisecrack,

where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice.

he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the head. hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning.

Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. So I'm going to give you a hypothetical here. Let's say you didn't get the group rows, right? Let's say your time on that group date actually was. very minuscule. Like maybe you had, you know, a two-minute conversation with Jen.

And then you get to the house and you got the other guys going, another group. They come back and they're like, yo, we didn't get any time. We want to go first tomorrow. We want our time. How do you handle that situation? So I approach it. You know, I'm a confident dude. So I know that any time that I get with Jen, I'm going to make the most out of it.

As long as I'm respected, I feel as though I'm not going to, nobody's going to get any, nobody's owed anything. So, you know, I'm going to approach, I'm not going to interrupt. I'm not going to, you know, if I already have time, I'm going to take extra time. But if somebody feels like their old time, like I don't owe you time, you know, I'm going to make sure that I'm trying to, I'm trying to be with Jen. So I'm going to approach it like that. I'm going to take my time. And if somebody feel like their old time, they're just going to have to wait in line. I actually, I like that mentality.

We didn't say that on the recap, but I do like the mentality of everyone is responsible for their own time with Jen. Like, I'm not responsible for getting another due time with Jen. I'm focused on me and my time. If you want to get time with her, you make that happen for yourself. This is not like a communal activity.

Well, that's what, and that was my point too. It's like you could, you could be friends with all the guys in the house, but you are all still competing. You are all, like, you, like, the point of the show is not to leave the show with 10 friends from The Bachelor

to go run around Austin, Texas. Like, that's not the point. It happens, but it's not the point of the show. Totally. Yeah, everybody puts it differently. Some guys are in there, and they're going to be open about that and let people know.

Like, I'm not here to make friends. And some guys are going to, you know, fly on, you smooth with it fly on the radar. And, you know, I'm not here to make friends. I'm going to keep, you know, my focus on Jen, you know, but I'm not going to go out of my way to, you know, make enemies. But I'm going to do it in a way.

way where, you know, Jen knows I'm here for her. What was, you know, you get the group day rows. What's kind of like at this point in time, what is your strategy moving forward with Jen? I'm not going to, I don't hear you say have a specific strategy. I just think that the time that I do spend with her, I'm going to let her know how I feel about her. I'm going to always try to reassure her. I'm going to always be myself. And, you know, if she's my person, then things will play out the way they're supposed to play out.

And if she's not, then I'm going to be on the first ticket home, you know? So that was, I didn't really have a strategy per se, but I was just going to be myself and try to let her know that, you know, I was very intentional about the situation. Yeah, very intentional with your time with her. Was it easy for you to, and it was never easy for me to, but was it easy for you to open up and be vulnerable? you know what cameras in front of your face and all that yeah it was it was easy it was easy because i didn't really notice like i'm not going to say i didn't notice but when i was there i was like i was super zoned in and focused on on our day and our time so i'm not going to sit there and say it was it was easy but it was it was natural but you were able to dissent like dissociate

the word i'm looking for not dissociate disassociate become desensitized to the cameras yeah that was capable yeah that took me a while to do that Listen, words aren't my forte either. Besides you, you seem to be pretty locked in at this time. What other guys do you feel like are kind of, you know, the same wavelength of just kind of being locked in and not really paying attention to all the nonsense going on? Yeah.

I think Devin is. I think Devin was very locked in. I think that, I think Spencer was locked in. I think Sam M was locked in. I feel like, I also feel like, There's a lot of guys. Who else? Some guys were, like, trying to make friends to jump in there.

I feel like, like I said, Sam, Devon, me. I feel like those were the guys that were really locked in. What are your thoughts on Thomas' is totally insane move of going to grab Devin when he's having his one-on-one time with Jen and pulling him into the hallway? Yeah, what was the groups? So we see Thomas. go and pull Devin and we see the guys are kind of like what the heck like Devin you weren't supposed to pull her first like what's going on were the guys like egging Thomas on or did

Thomas just kind of like free ball it was like guys I'm going to handle this certain guys were and you know he didn't drink a little bit so you know I think that he allowed people to egg okay so there was encouragement he had support from the group his group you know his the group of those guys that he was kind of with on the show. So, yeah, there definitely was some encouragement there. And listen, I wouldn't have did it. I wouldn't have did what he did. Saying, yeah, there's, there were.

Were any of you guys? Yeah, because I mean, yeah, like, watching, I'm just like, oh, that is such a bad move. Like, it's just not, there's no way you're going to come out of this looking good. But he went up really confident. So that is almost reassuring to hear that other guys were like, yeah, you should do it. Because I was like, did he just go, like, rogue on his own to make this decision?

Were you guys worried when he did do this and things start escalating between Devin, Thomas, and then, you know, Jen's probably getting frustrated. Were you guys worried this was going to affect your night at all? Yeah, honestly, yeah, because it's going to affect the night. All the drama, it's definitely gets to, you know, Jen's head. And it definitely worried me some, you know, but I, but also I saw it as, you know, an opportunity to reassure her that, that, you know, I'm not one of those guys that are going to be starting, starting drama or, you know, I'm here for you. So it was, there was a, it was pros and it was constant, you know, but it definitely made some of the guys look very mature. And just, yeah, it made it like, like, you know, silly, silly stuff, you know, so that was something that, yeah, I definitely tried to take that those moments and. and reassured Jen in those moments.

Were you surprised when Devin pulled her first? No. I'm like, man, I was going to, you know, somebody was going to do it. I was going to do it. But I feel like with me, I just knew, for whatever reason, I was just confident that I was going to get time. The time that I had, I was going to make the most of it. And you also, not to cut you off, but you also have the rose.

So even if you don't get time tonight, it's not the end of the world for you because you will get time, whatever, next week. So I was kind of had my top one else. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's a move. Was there, though, like, was there actually this agreement, though, that, like, one of those eight guys who didn't get time was going to pull her first? Like, was this something, like, the house all agreed upon? Or was this something that the eight guys that didn't get time were kind of trying to push on the rest of the group?

They were trying to push it off this. Okay. Yeah. That makes more sense. You guys. So, I mean, after they suggested it, everybody was like, yo, like, you don't owe you guys you know what I'm saying so I'm going to give you time

to make sure you get time to go on a date with somebody who would be my future wife like I'm okay I'm not really you know so I feel like they were owed that they felt like they wanted that and I was kind of chilling because I already had a rose so I was yeah I was just you know like I said

I was sick my tea over there but it was it was a crazy crazy experience of what yeah I've never this was the first time it was entertaining because we've been watching the show forever, but that's the first time we ever seen that because, like, yeah, like, you're not, you're not owed anything. Like, this isn't, that's not your call. And Jen says it.

Like, that's not your guy's call. Like, you don't, you don't get to dictate when you get to talk to me because it's just not, that's not how it works. Yeah, it was really interesting. Yeah, we watch a lot of this show, obviously, because we podcast about it. So, whatever something happens that we've never seen before, it's always like, this is crazy. We've seen so many episodes. How is there still new stuff that's going to happen? But this was, this was a new one. You guys over there watching the show, like, what are you doing? Like, you know, like, I know, it's different watching them back.

I know. And it's always easier to, you know, sit and judge when you're a viewer than when you're actually there. I mean, so much goes on. There's so many emotions, which we do get also. But you got a rose. We're excited to see more of you coming up this season. If you were to tease the rest of the season, how would you do it? I would say that the season is filled with man drama.

I would say that a bunch of guys yapping at each other. It's filled with romance. It's filled with intricate love stories. You know, I could only speak from mine. And it's filled with, you know, people are being sensitive. They're divulging their feelings. How they feel about the guys in the house. How they feel about Jen.

It's filled with drama. love it's filled with there's no violence but there's physical there's there's a verbal violence I guess you can you know what I'm saying so it's just all the emotions mixed in one and it's a great

if it was a book it would be a great novel wow that's let's just leave it at man drama because I like that lots of man drama no that was a great tease I'm excited the season the first episode

was great but episode two was very very strong and I feel like kind of set the tone for how this season's actually going to flow. So we're excited. Grapp, before we let you go, we're going to play a quick game with you. Rapid Fire. First thing that comes to your

your mind is just kind of like let's get to know Grant a little better. It's all easy questions. You ready? I'm ready. All right. What is your love language? Physical touch. Words of affirmation. What is a go-to date night

idea? Late night on the beach Some wine and some good music Dogs or cats Oh Dogs you said Oh it's all day Yeah

Favorite way to unwind Go out some friends Have some drinks or hit the gym Go to drink at a bar Oh you go to drink at a book No Go drink at a bar right now Get out of here now

Your go-to drink at a bar. Steve's quote. Dream vacation destination. Hawaii. Favorite food or cuisine? Steak. Go to a comfort show or movie. American Gangsty.

Best concert you've gone to. Jay Z What's something on your bucket list Visit every single country And your favorite thing about Jen Her ability to Make a situation easy And how she lights up the room

And how witty she is Nice Those are all very nice All right Grant Well It was a pleasure getting to know you I feel like we're going to see a lot more you on this season. I don't think you're going anywhere. And thank you so much for coming on the

podcast. Thank you guys for having me. And hopefully I don't have any more cringe moments. We'll see what happens. You haven't even made top 10 of cringy moments this season. You have nothing to worry about. You're good. And to all our listeners, thank you guys so much for tuning in. And make sure you listen, subscribe. And we will be having new guests on every week from Jen season. And stay tuned for are episode three recap coming out next week. Thanks for listening. Bye. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

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