Bachelor Happy Hour - Guest Co-Host Joe Amabile

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

Grocery Store Joe joins Rachel as guest co-host this week. Joe talks about his life now with Kendall and why his bad haircut was to blame for him getting kicked off the first night of “The Bachelorette.” Plus, they’re answering fan e-mails. Be sure to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up, guys, and welcome to another episode of Bachelor Happy Hour. I am so excited today because I have a great co-host, one of my Bachelor Nation favorites. You guys don't know this because you don't really see us hanging out together, but we've been around each other a bit. So I'm not going to let you wait any longer. Sitting with me in the hot seat, not really in the hot seat, because he's co-hosting today, but I've got Joe a mobly, also known as grocery store Joe. Or Joe the grocer. Is that what they say?

Joe the grocer, grocery store Joe, asshole. No. You could actually edit that out too, please. No, keep it because I like it. They don't know this side of the grocery store. No. Yeah, so you send my last name wonderful. Oh, I did.

Yes. Joe Amobli is how you say Amobli. For those who don't know, now you know it's Amobli. I have to ask you off the top. They say it really well in Italy. I've only been there once and I can't speak the language. Off the top. Do you like the name grocery store, Joe?

I mean, there's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't bother me. When I was on tour for Dancing with the Stars and we did meet and greets, people would walk up and be like, oh, you're grocery, right? like I have a name okay it's Joe or Joey or Joseph but

I don't mind that I mean it's fine but people don't call me that it's not like you're not gonna have a conversation with me and be like grocery store Joe could grab a water out of the fridge so I mean it's cool I don't know if it bothered you when like people run up to you and they're like oh my gosh it's grocery store Joe or because Joe's a common name so it's like which Joe

grocery store Joe yeah no it doesn't bother me I like give me I like attention so I like when people run up to me want to take pictures and stuff. Do you really? Yeah, of course. Who doesn't? It makes you feel great. See, I feel like that's a girl problem because for me I'm like, are my eyebrows done?

Are my lashes done? Is my hair together? All of those are not together as we speak. I just want to put that out there. You look good. Thank God there's no camera in here. But no, for women, we're like, wait, we need angles. We need the camera.

I feel like for you guys, it's totally different. Yeah, no. For me, I go to all the tourist spots on purpose. Shut! Like, line up, let's go. Who wants to take a picture with me? I feel like I'm learning a whole new joke right now. That's hilarious.

So where do you go? Shower me with attention. Where can the people find you? Any, I meant the groves. No, I'm joking. I mean, but it doesn't bother me. It really doesn't. People asking for pictures or just want to say what's up or talk.

Bring it on. What's the weirdest thing somebody's ever said to you? Have they come up to you? and brought you like an apple, like some grocery items or something like that. Well, I mean, that wouldn't be that strange, though. Is it? Just walking with an apple? Just came with an apple.

Can you sign this for me? Is it an apple? Do people do that? They ask you to sign their groceries? No. Okay. They should. They should.

I used to be a trader and I used to, I was a trader at the Chicago Board of Trade and I was in the grocery business. So everyone thought I was Trader Joe. So I actually DM Trader Joe's. I'm like, what's up? I'm like, you guys want to pay me? Yeah, as you should. They never responded.

Take advantage of that. Try again. They never responded to me. I'm really upset about that. Maybe we'll get them as a sponsor on this podcast and then, you know, it could be your voice. Yeah, that would be great. That'd be great. But what did you ask me before I went on that little tangent of Trader Joe's? I don't know.

I felt like I wanted to answer it. Oh, oh, no, signing groceries. No, where else were we? What were we talking about? You know why I love that you lost your thought and you went on a tangent because a lot of people when they saw you on the screen, they felt like you didn't have a lot to say or you didn't really talk that much. But I think I've heard you and Kendall say, or maybe it was Kendall say in interviews that once you start talking, you don't stop. Case and point on the podcast. Well, I mean, here's the thing, though.

I was only on screen. Like people, I was on the show for a day. You know, I was on Bachelor for a day. Yes. And I was only aired for, what, a minute and 15 seconds, max? So that's all people saw. And then when I did an interview with Chris Harrison, he said, you don't talk much because I was nervous. And I didn't really have much to say because I wasn't on the goddamn show.

Well, what happened? What happened the first night? Because obviously, we now know you're a fan favorite. You've gone on to do great things. Right. So I'm signing grocery bags. Honestly, you're like the example. of what all first-nighters should achieve.

Seriously, it's probably never going to happen again. But you've definitely... They tried this year. With who? A few of the night on Paradise. Oh, Paradise. But still, nobody has reached the level of fame after the first night. And they never will, baby.

They truly never will. It will never happen again. But what happened that first night with you? Why did you go home? Because people just seem to love you. I don't get it. um that's that's a fair question and i'm really looking forward to answering it right now i okay for starters my hair was too short i went you you think that's that's what i'm telling you if you

well it was i went crazy with with a fade and it wasn't even however styled my hair anyways i don't know what i was thinking second of all it's a long night so i ended up i was by the end of the night, I was pale, I was tired, so I didn't really feel or look my best. You know, my suit was, I had a Tom Ford suit. I went and got a Tom Ford suit for this. Yeah, yeah, because I'm like, if I'm going to be on TV, I might as well do it right. Then I go home the first. Most contestants can't afford a Tom Ford suit. They're H&M. So, no, yeah, Tom Ford all the way. So I get there, and everyone was kind of like, what are you doing on this show? Like, you don't seem like, like, why are you here? You seem normal. Yeah, like, kind of like, what are you doing? And I'm like,

honestly, I don't know. But it just, I was approached at a grocery store that wasn't my grocery store. Shut up. Yeah. So I guess I could start from the beginning. This is fun. What? So I'm, you know, it's October.

It's a regular day. You know, it's fall in Chicago. I'm going grocery store shopping. Grocery store shopping. I'm buying some almond butter, whatever I'm doing. And I'm leaving. A lady walks up to me. She's like, hey, are you single?

I'm like, you know, I just got a normal haircut and I was feeling good. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, what's up? She's like, would you be interested in on the? bachelor and she hands me a card that says the bachelor so I'm like I guess I would be the bachelor sure just let me just skip all the steps I didn't know I swore my life I didn't know at the time I don't have Instagram I don't have anything I'm just you know I'm kind of doing my thing in Chicago I have my place I have my friends I'm single

I'm going out you just you know live in life she's like send me an email so she's like could you send like 10 pictures and I have I I text some of my friends and send me photos they have me. I come up with eight, eight pictures, and I send them an email. Next thing I know, they fly out to Chicago. I get casted. So now I'm out there. All the producers are cool. Everybody seems to like me. I like all this is, this is cool. But like, hey, I'm not going to fall in love on this show. Yes, we all, that's how you should be. You're open to whatever. Yeah, I'm open. Like, if I fall in love, great. Is it going to happen? I highly doubt it. I would bet against it. um so everything's cool i get to the to the hotel that they're sequestering and sequestering a word

sequestering you know my word of the day sequester so they have us in the hotel and i'm like okay great you know everything's gonna be good we go out there i he's in my limo he's talking to me he's like you good i'm like yeah i'm good but i'm not now i'm freaking out i'm freaking out i'm freaking i feel it i'm like this is horrible i step but he's like whatever you do don't talk when you get out of the limo. Say hello. Say your name, but do it in her face. I open the limo door. I start rambling like Mr. Italian from Chicago. It's about time. Yada yada yada. I walk up to her. I talk for like two minutes. Then I say, I forget everything I was going to say. And she's like, what? You just were talking for two minutes. And then I said, I said, nice to meet you.

Oh, fuck. And they actually played it. They bleeped it out. And I walked inside. Now I get inside and I'm looking at these guys and they're talking and everyone's kind of like, I feel so bad for Becca, you know, her heart and what Ari did. And for me, I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. I'm like, she's the lead right now. This is great. Did you know the backstory though? I know you never watched the show, but did you know what happened to her?

I knew what happened. But the way I looked at it was like, she's obviously over it. She's the bachelor. She's winning now. Yeah, or she's the bachelorette. So like, this is great for her. So I'm like, okay. And I just, I was uncomfortable.

So I couldn't really have any conversations. I wasn't comfortable speaking on camera. So I just kind of just was like, all right, I'm just going to go to the bar. I'm going to have a beer and I'm going to just kind of do my own thing. I had the second talk with her. Okay, you did have a talk with her. Yeah, I went really, really bad. What did you talk about?

I was really nervous and I asked her, I'm like, the first thing that comes out of my stupid mouth is, what's your pet peeve? It was like my grandma would I ask that question. What's your pet pee? How I thought of that. And she's like, I don't know. What's yours? And I'm like, ah, you know, when I'm, I said when I'm waiting, and this isn't even my peppy. I said when I'm waiting for my luggage at the airport and somebody stands in front of me.

And it was just silent. It was literally silent. I'm like, this couldn't be going any worse. I would have laughed if I was a Bachelorette. You said that to me. I would have known you were nervous. And I would have been like, okay, just take a beat. Yeah, but it would have been better if I.

My hair was a little longer. That was the final straw. Yeah, that was it. She's like, this kid, this guy's a weirdo, and he's got a bad haircut. He's gone. So then, yeah, so then I got, you know, it's eight in the morning. I don't get a rose on. And I remember standing up there.

I'm like, I can't believe I'm one of these guys. Because I remember, like, seeing the show when I was a kid and, like, being like, whole, to get eliminated that first night, nothing could be worse than that. And nothing was. I mean, it was horrible. You know, it was, it was like, I was like, I'm, I'm this. guy right now? Like, I have to go back to Chicago and tell my friends I came out on this reality

show to find love and get eliminated the first night. Explain that to people because I think everybody looks at it as, I know, you're all like, I don't want to be the one to go home that night, but explain because there's so much that goes into getting ready for the first night, then to go home that night.

Like, explain, kind of like the, I don't know how much we can get into the process, but I guess the process. So you don't get a rose, then what? You have to pack for two and a half months. Yeah. And this, the process has been going on for three or four months. I didn't want to, I was reluctant to do it from the beginning.

And then once you kind of like, you're like, okay, I'm going to do this. Then you're like, your whole hearts in it. You're like, I'm doing this. Like, I'm going on TV and basically exposing myself. Like, here we go. You know, so it's, it is on regardless of what anyone says. Once you're, once you like go through casting and you. you feel like you're going to get it, it's on your mind every day. You're waking up like,

I'm about to go on TV and do this shit. So it's a lot. And then you, you know, you try to look your best. You try to sound your best. You know, you're like, I don't want to go home the first night because it's just a, now I'm here. I want to do this. I want to see what actually could happen. And it's just embarrassing. Like to get to go home the first night basically mean like, It's like, wow, this, even though it's not that bad. If you really think about it, I mean, thousands of people go through casting, you made the final cut. It's really not that bad. Silver lining.

But it does. It feels, it's just like, oh, I can't believe this. Is it because when you, I know we're not supposed to tell anybody, but obviously you tell your family that you're leaving. Yeah. You tell close friends. And so then you get kicked off and you're like, I have to go back and tell them that I went home the first night. Yeah. Yeah.

And I was also like, I was out of my group of friends. I was the guy that was always out. I was the guy that was the single guy. I was the one that always had fun. Like, I was just kind of always out there doing my thing. And now I'm like, oh my God. Now I feel like, I just feel like such a reject. Like, this is horrible.

But my flight's at 2 p.m. And I want to get out of here sooner. So I need you guys to switch my flight to 10.30 a.m. because it's St. Patrick's Day in Chicago. And I'm going home, going out and getting wasted. You know who has the second best St. Patrick's Day? Dallas, Texas. Really?

I haven't been. I got to try it. It's huge. I will. So I go to Chicago. I wake up. I got all my suitcases out. And I'm like, at St. Patrick's Day, I call my friend.

It's like 9.30 in the morning. Like, meet me at the bar. And I kind of like, you know what? I laughed about it. And I'm like, you know what? I did it. So who cares? So then, which is the best way to recover.

Yeah. From getting kicked off to the show. And nobody knows, right? Nobody knows what your close family and friends So then I walked into, not to cut you off I walked into a bar And St. Patrick's Day

There was a line around the block Because Chicago was crazy I walked up to the girl I said listen I was just on the bedroom I kicked out the first night Let me in the fucking bar She opened it up

Like beautiful See you were meant to do this And you know what else I'm big on signs And you're like I was at a grocery store When you were at a grocery store When you were approached

Not your grocery store Whole Foods Yeah And she asked me She goes What do you do i said i own a grocery store she goes this one i said if i own this one we wouldn't be having this conversation but yeah you're in a grocery store you get approach you own a grocery store

you get this whole grocery store joe title so what a couple of months passes i'm trying to think of the timeline if even that yeah about a couple of months two and a half months first night airs you go home then all the sudden everything changes for you right did you expect america to fall in love with you the way that they did. Oh, God, no. And why do you think? Because you said you were on TV for what, a minute and 15 seconds. You already talked about your appearance with the haircut.

But for some reason, America chose you to fall in love with and to basically riot about, like, how could grocery store Joe go home? What do you think it was? There was a few factors. Go ahead and toot your horn. Go ahead, tut, too, Joe. All right. Now I've been, you know, I've been destroying myself. Now I'm going to build myself back up. I am, I'm, it's hard to say it, but I guess I'm real. Like, I'm going out there and I'm going to be myself, regardless. I'm not going to go. I'm not going to play a role. I'm not going to do something that is uncomfortable with me, doesn't sit well. I'm just going to go there and be myself. And I think when somebody is actually just who they are, it's apparent.

Second of all, even though I had a bad haircut, I'm still not, you know, I'm still Yes, you're attractive. I'll say it for you. Attractive man. And I have a good smile, you know, I have my smile. Oh, ladies love a smile. But you know what else I think it was? You didn't say a lot, you know, you are attractive.

And I think people were curious about you. And then you had grocery store Joe attached to it. So there's this, there's this tagline that goes with you. So curiosity, you're mysterious, people wanted to know more about you. Yeah. And then I think Becca, maybe she did an interview or something because people were just inquiring about you. She spoke so highly of you. Well, this is actually a pretty funny story.

I guess I do. Yes, I do. Okay, so they, I don't know. So after all this happens, so now I get popular. I don't think of my brother's like, dude, you're trending on Twitter, all this stuff. So I'm like, okay. So I'm getting popular on social media, which I never had social media. they call me

and they're going to cast me on Bachelor in Paradise. It's now it's like two days or it's a few days before we're going on. I didn't know they told me literally last minute. Like they told me on a Friday night and you're leaving Sunday morning. They tell me Friday night, Saturday, I'm going to Bloomingdale's

to buy swim shorts from Paradise. Literally like, okay, I don't even have time to get a haircut. So I go, I don't know why. I'm so. infatuated with this haircut thing. So I go and get... We're driving.

My friends are in the, we're downtown Chicago, so I'm going to hop out of the car running the Blue Meadales. As I'm getting out of the car, we see Becca walk into Bloomingdale's in Chicago. Okay, I thought that was planned. That wasn't planned.

See what I'm saying? Signs. See how things are meant to be? That was a plan. So now we're like, you have to go say something. So we go find like creeps. We go find there in Bloomingdale's.

I'm like, what's up? She's like, God, we take a picture, then I get, then I start getting my followings really starts going up. Then I left from Mexico and then I was on Paradise. Okay, Steph, is it just me or does it seem like every day, it's another day and another workout tool, another tip, another app?

I swear I'm always hearing about a different one. I don't even know where to start. Me too. I had so many apps on my iPhone. I could not even keep track of all the new ones, but I started using Nume. it really takes everything I was using and it does it all in this one app so I can track my exercise, the calories, all these things that I had different apps for. I do it all in this new app now. That sounds like it has everything I need right there in that one app. So wait, explain

this to me because you've been using this for a few months now, right? Yeah, I've been using it about two months. It's really, I love it so far. So no food is off limits. That's huge for me because if I can't have a bagel on Fridays upstairs, we have free bagels on Fridays. There you go. That's an issue for me. I have to have my bagel Friday. So it's great because it's all in the app. You just put in what you eat. It's all about moderation. And there's this really great food database so I can track on my food. And it's really organized. And it's awesome. Wait, so you're telling me that no food is off limits. Nothing. Okay. This sounds like my kind of app. I don't know about you guys, but I'm sold right now just off Stephanie telling me her story. So listen, what do you have to lose? You heard it here from Steph first. You need a visit.

Noom.com slash BHH to start your free. That's right, guys, free trial today. So you really have nothing to lose because it's free. That's noom.com slash BHH. One more time, just in case you didn't hear me, I said free you guys. It's a free trial. So go to newm.com slash BHA. So let's pick up from Paradise. Did you have your eyes set on anyone? Because you said, you're like me. We didn't really watch the show before. So I imagine you to know, many people coming into paradise. Were you looking for Kendall or were you just like, whatever? I was just trying to make it past the first night.

Yeah, I just didn't want to get eliminated the first night. I wasn't looking for Kendall. She was the only one I was into once I was there. And everyone that came in, like, we were open the whole time. Like we didn't really, you know, we were just getting to know each other. So we were both down for if somebody comes in, you want to date them, obviously. you know, you're not my girlfriend. I'm not your boyfriend.

That's just not what this is yet. We're just getting to know each other. There was just nobody I was really interested in going out with. And she was, I found her entertaining and interesting and pretty. And we were just, she was like a friend. Like she was becoming a friend.

I'm like, this is cool, okay? And that was it. So I go on Paradise. We ended up. We broke up at the end, which was, which felt like the right thing

because I was going back to Chicago and she was going to L.A., and it just wasn't that strong. We were not that strong. We were like, we don't even know if we actually want to date. But we're sexually attracted to each other, so we do eventually want to sleep with each other.

It's interesting that you say you weren't that strong because watching it as a viewer, you guys seem to be one of these strongest couples there. So it's interesting to hear you say that. Well, because we're strong there and we're getting to know each other. But if I go back to Chicago and she goes back to L. we're not going to like i'm i don't want to do a long-district relationship and neither does she

and it was just it wasn't like that like i wasn't like okay i'm committed to you and vice versa so what ends up happening is we get off the show and then i'm like i actually now once i got home i'm like oh maybe i actually did have really you know maybe i'm really into her like i I kind of miss her. And then we decided like, okay, let's actually try this. So we try it. I ended up getting casted on dancing with the stars. That made it easier.

It put me in L.A. And we've basically been living together ever since. See, the signs. Get casted. Brings you to L.A. You don't even have to try. It was almost effortless. Things just happened for you, for you guys to be together.

So what's life like for you now? Away from the camera. You're living in L.A. You're doing your thing. You got a place together. Yeah. Life now. So we, Kendall and I live together in West Hollywood. And it's, it's great. I mean, we just, we're with each other. I never thought I could be with a significant other for as long as I'm with, Kendall. Like, you know, during the day. But she is, you know, every day she surprises me. She's just a very interesting human and she, human. I don't know why I said that. She's just, you know, she's just, I just enjoy being with her every day. And it's just, it's great.

And then I do, I have a clothing line now that I started. It's called frown clothing. And we partnered with Smile Train. I did that with Alan Burston, who's on Dancing with the Stars. I have a lot of Dancing with the Stars friends here. So we all hang out. I was by Vales last night and we were playing video games and watching football. So that was like a really great experience for you.

Yeah, that was a great experience. experience. And Kendall, Kendall has her podcast, so she's doing her thing. And we just, we're living a regular life. Does Kendall still practice taxidermy? Does Kendall still, Kendall actually bought another piece of taxidermy yesterday. And she put it in the house and she told me this morning, can you find the new taxidermy? So that was the thing. What was it? Um, I forget. I think it's I think it's a bird. Yeah. Y'all have, I hate birds, dead or alive. Bad. These are all that. They're all dead and stuff. I hate them both. I do plan on stuffing copper, who is in the studio with us today.

I do plan on. I'll need to consult with Kindle later. He's pissed right now. Little does he know. He's like, you just put me on a plane for six hours. Now you're talking about stuff at me. We will be together forever. I told you we're too close. That's funny. So I love the way you talk about your relationship with Kendall because nothing's exaggerated. You don't sound like you're reading a script. you're just like, she surprises me every day and I just enjoy being around her. Just that simple. That's how it should be.

That's exactly how I would describe the relationship with Brian. You know, it's effortless. We don't even have to try. Yeah. I think that was the biggest thing, because I never really had a serious relationship and I always felt like if I could hang out with her the next day and just be, you know,

if it's a friendship, that's what I'm looking for because that's what it's really all about. Do you ever sit back? Because I do this with Brian still. And we're two plus years, two years in at this point. Do you ever sit back and you're like, I cannot believe I met this person on a reality TV show? Great question.

Not really. Only when, like, when we go do Bachelor things. Like when we went to Paradise for the wedding, Kristen Crystal's wedding, it was like, I can't believe we met. on the show. No, because you were probably looking around like, look at these people. Yeah, no, you look at everyone. Look at these people.

And we met and we made it out of this. We survived this. That's how I think of it. It's crazy. It is lightning in a bottle. Yeah. It's, you know, you look at the contestants in Bachelor Nation and, you know, they're all different.

But it's hard to be successful outside of all of this because the odds really are against you. You know, you're dating in public you're dating in public and especially um when you when you're popular off the show you know you have everyone's trying to you know meet you or date you or not everyone i take that back not everyone but you are all of a sudden you have like this it's not fame but you have this popularity that you didn't have before like no one did and so like all of you're like, you know, I was going on a show looking for love and now it's like you, you could

date so many different people. Like, you could do that. But for me, that's just not what I wanted. I actually, believe it or not, was kind of there for the right reasons, which was to find love. And I didn't even know that at the time. Yeah. I mean, I think that's why it worked. I always say it's the people who come in and are like, I'm going to meet a husband or my wife. That's not realistic. I think You just have to be open to whatever can happen and just see how it goes and take it day by day. Those are the most successful couples. Do you hang out a lot with Bachelor Nation people? I hang out with not a lot.

I don't. Jason was just in town. I hung out with Jason. I really like Jason and Caitlin. I've hung out with, like the guys that live in L.A., like Nick and Jared, I've hung out with them a few times, you know, watch football. But for the most part, not a lot, no. I don't either.

Yeah, no. And I feel like sometimes, I'm interested in your thoughts on that, you get flack from it. Because for me, I look at, and we have Blake on the podcast, and Blake was saying family. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. It's not family. It's like a fraternity and a sorority. It's a high school. Yeah.

We're all high school. We all went through this experience together, so we all share that. But I don't find the need to be friends with every single person that comes out of basketball. Fascination. Friendly. Okay, of course. Friendly with everyone. Friendly with everyone, right. But friends, no, I just don't think it's realistic. And I think sometimes, and I'm interested in your thoughts on that, because I feel like we think we think alike. Yeah, we're similar. I don't, I don't feel the need to be besties or comment on everybody's post or feel like. And so sometimes I get looked at as I'm not a girl's girl's, but it's like, I'm very close with the girls I was on next season with. Yeah. Very cool with them. And Brian's cool. with the guys he was on my season with and they were all at the wedding but I don't feel the need to be everybody's best friend.

Oh, you know what? I hang out with Eric a lot. Eric's great. Eric's great. I hang out with Eric a lot. Pretty much, I probably hang out with him in Bachelor Nation the most. I personally, and this can be wrong,

I feel like people throw the term friend around too lightly. Agreed. I have friends that have been my friends since I've been a kid. They're people I trust. If I'm ever going to rob a bank, that's who I'm robbing it with.

That's a bad explanation. Don't air that. But I want to trust my friends. And I think most of the people in Bachelor Nation, everyone I've met has been great. They're all nice. I don't have any issues with them. I would go grab a drink with pretty much anyone.

and then we could see if we hit it off and we become friends. But I'm not going to just say, because you were on the same show that I was on, that now we are really, we're family. Because we're not family. Right. You wouldn't invite them to your wedding. Not all of them. I wouldn't, yeah.

I mean, I wouldn't invite most of them to my wedding. And I wouldn't consider any of them family. I would say there's a few, there's a handful of people. from Bachelor Nation that I consider friends. Everybody else I think is cool. I like them and I have no problem hanging out with anyone getting to know them better. But until I do that, I'm not going to just be like, yeah, because we're on the same show, we're tight because we're not, because we don't know each other.

Yeah. And that's fake. Yeah. And I'm not either. And I feel like that sometimes the lines get blurred like that between when it comes to fans and how they watch certain things and you look like you're standoffish or you're just not a team player and it's like, no, you know, you had friends before the show. And those are the people, like you said, you'd have to rob a banquet. But you are friendly with everybody, but it doesn't

mean that you have to be best friends. Totally agree on that. So since you have just created this own path, your own path, in regards to what a first-nighter has never done before and probably never will do again, do other first-nighters contact you? or like, hey, man, you know, how did you do it? How can I get on dancing with the stars? I know they do. I know they slide in your DMs. So I don't really check my DMs, but I really don't.

I love Joe. I really don't check my DMs. There are a few people, a few contestants from this season reached out to me. I don't want you to name names, but did they say, how did you do it? Did they want advice? They kind of ask, well, they ask for advice, which, I have no problem giving because it is confusing once you're on it. That kid, I mean, I'll just say his name.

That kid that got kicked off the first night Matt McDonald. Oh, but he was on Paradise. He was on Paradise. Before he went to Paradise, I didn't see it. And then he DM me again and then I saw it. But he had asked me, you know, for my advice when he went on there. But he wasn't asking it for like, how do I get, you know, casting on the Antoine to the Stars?

He's like, do you have any advice for me? And I just told them, yeah, go out there, have fun and be yourself. Yeah. That's it. Enjoy it. Did you watch him on it? I did. Do you think that he was himself?

I think that... He said, son of a beasting. He... That might be my favorite line of all apparently. Son of a beasting. So from what I watched of him, he seems like a really nice guy. He does seem nice. He seemed like he kind of got caught up a little bit with like he kept calling the one girl a supermodel.

Like, I can't believe I could date a supermodel. And I think he kind of, and it seemed like the one other girl that he was dating, I'm bad with names. The other girl that. Sydney. Okay. He seemed like she was, it seemed like she could be into him. And she seemed like she's perfect for him. Like she's, she's very attractive.

She seemed intelligent. They seem to like each other. And I think he might have got caught up a little bit in like, oh, man, I'm like in the, am I famous kind of thing? Like, wow, I could date this supermodel. And I think he screwed up personally. Old Matt Donald, is that his name? Matt. Yeah, Mac.

Is it Mac? I don't know. I think it's Matt. Donald. He is epitomizes why I think the bachelors are not successful, as successful as the bachelorettes on the show. I always say that the women do a better job of saying, you know what, this person would work with me in real life. You have to think outside of the bachelor's bubble. I think the men pick the woman that they couldn't get in real life or the one they fantasize about or their dream girl.

And that's when I see what Matt went through or Mac, whatever it is, when I see what he went through, I'm like, that's what people get caught up. And he went after that girl. And then she told him, no, you see me as just a model. No, I don't want you. Guys have two brains. You've got to follow the right one. Yes, yes. And oftentimes they don't, right?

Yeah. Right. we know okay Hannah's on Dancing with the Stars is that wait

you went on Dancing with Stars and then Hannah was right after you there hasn't been anybody in between right no it was me and Hannah

I hear it's a really rigorous like competition okay dancing with the Stars was one of the best experience of my life

it was great Dancing with the Stars was awesome I became so Hannah's partner now Alan is one of my best friends in L.A., and we have a clothing line together.

But you become, like, all the dancers, every celebrity that was on the show, the production, everyone is so cool. And very friendly. So it was just a great experience for me. And then the tour was even better. The tour was so much fun. Are you required to do the tour?

Everybody has to do it? No. So I was, I got casted to host a tour for four weeks and the guy following me he was five weeks after me he got hurt so I stayed on so I ended up doing it for like two months a little over two months

How far did you make it on Dancing with the Stars? Dance with the Stars I made it to the semifinals and had and I got destroyed by the judges every week I do remember that but you were a fan favorite so wait semifinals is top four? Top five That's good though

I was fifth hey you were doing something right yeah I mean People were voting. Well, there was a lot of good dancers on that show from the beginning and performers. And I wasn't good. Like, I have no problem admitting that I was not a good dancer. I was uncomfortable and I was never a dancer to begin with. So I sucked.

But I got better. So do you think you're a good dancer now? Well, I mean, I'm professionally trained, Rachel. Oh, that's right. You better drop that. I'm going to be honest, any club I walk into, for the most part, I have more training than 90% of the people. And you also have more pressure. they're expecting big things

because you are professionally trained Joe so you want to throw that out there professionally trained by Jenna Johnson So do you still watch the show? I watch it now because yeah I'm friends with most of the dancers How's Hannah doing? Hannah, I think she's doing really

Really Hannah's doing great Yeah, from what I've seen I haven't actually watched it but I've seen her and she's doing well It seems like she's one of the favorites Yeah for sure I mean there's a lot of competition though

on her season right now. Like, there are a lot of good dancers. Yeah. So since you have so many friends on Dancing with the Stars, it'd be nice if you could just say, you know,

my friend Rachel would kill this show. You probably, yeah, I will. I'll text someone. Right after the show, I was like, no, I want to focus on my relationship

and I do not regret that decision. But now people are like, how's Hannah doing? Would you do it? Yeah. Why would I not do it at this point? No, it's great. You should.

You'd probably be really great. I think my time has passed. You know, so I just put my energy behind Hannah and support her because she's killing it. We've been asking our listeners to email us and give us their thoughts and opinions about the podcast, the good and the bad, because I want to hear both sides. But then at the same time, just asking us for advice on certain things. And I feel like we keep it real. So you'd be really good at answering some of these emails. So if you'll stick around, we'll get to them right after the break.

All right, Joe. let's get into these emails. I haven't read them before because I want to give a fresh opinion. I want to answer them right off the top of my head. You're going to do the same. You haven't looked at them either. So here we go. Good and the bad. Remember that. All right. First email comes from Jessica V. She says, I'm a big fan of the podcast. Thanks, Jess. I really love the interview with Blake. I know you guys have talked about this a little on the podcast, but I'm curious what it's like after the cameras stop rolling on the show? Was there anything you realized was different with your partner after filming stopped? And what's the hardest part about going from dating on TV to dating in the

normal world? I feel like we can't answer that last question because we're with the people that we... Yeah, that we... Unless, Joe, were you, did you date somebody in between the Bachelorette and Batch in Paradise? No. Okay. No, I didn't. All right. So first question that she asked was, was there anything you realized was different with your partner after filming stopped? Okay, I'll answer this. Of course, because you only know this person for a short period of time. You only could only know so much about somebody in two weeks or three weeks, however long it is. And then once you actually live with them, you learn so many different things and habits.

So yeah. Yeah, no, no, same for me. Interesting, when I said yes to Brian, Brian, you said. see watch Brian on my season he was like kind of portrayed as this rico suave smooth operator said all the right things and very outgoing and in real life he is quiet he's he talks to me but in like a big room he's quiet he's more reserved he watches and i didn't know that about him until after the show was over but i definitely say it's it's different but for the better you know because there's no camera in your face.

You're not having trying to, I don't want to say perform, but feel like you have to say certain things. You can just completely be yourself, which some people that's good and some people that's bad. For us, it worked out. Cool. We can't really answer that. What's the hardest part about going on the date? What's the hardest part about going from dating on TV to dating in the normal world?

Well, we could answer that. Okay. Right? Go for it, Joe. Dating on TV and dating in the normal. There's no cameras. I mean, it's as simple as that. I mean, you're not, you're not, there's no.

camera in your face and you could be, everyone's going to be a little reserved on camera. Yeah. That's just what it is. So you're more open and you talk about more personal life experiences and just more shit about yourself when you're not on TV. So you really, really get to know someone. Yeah. If we're talking about hardest part dating on TV in regard to The Bachelor, I'd say when

you're on the Bachelor, Bachelorette, whatever, you're protected. You're in this bubble where you're doing. dating and these set dates and everything is planned for you. And then you go to the normal world and it's completely different. So I think you go from fantasy to reality and that can be hard sometimes because it's reality. Yeah. And the food's free on the show and it's not in real life. Yeah, yeah. That part. You need to figure that out. All right. Next email. Okay. Erica emailed in paradise, Teja Wad, I believe I'm saying. Tajwan. Tajwan. Tajwan kept telling J.P.J. not to eat the date food. What's that about? What's the actual deal with the

date food? Is it just for looks? Can we answer that? Yeah. Okay, I believe the date food is just for looks. I don't think they want people to be chewing food on a date. So I think it's kind of just for looks. And then we are well fed. There's a bar there. There's a bar that you could eat whenever you want. So when you go on a date, it's really just about talking and getting to know that person and not about the food. Absolutely. That's right. I was told America does not want to see you eat because people smack. They talk with food in their mouth. That's not cute. You know, we're supposed to be put together. I remember on my date with Nick, we were eating bignets and they let us eat them because we were in New Orleans. It's part of the culture. And

we had powder all over our mouths. We were smacking. We couldn't talk. to each other. It was not pretty. And I remember being like, okay, I get it. Yeah, I get it. Did you go to the famous place in New Orleans for those? What's it called? Cafe Dumont? Yeah. Did I get that right? Yes, you got it right. I'm on top of my New Orleans culture. You got it. But yes, that's a very common question we get about the food. It's usually cold when it's in front of us. You don't want to eat it anyway. Yes, it is just for show. And if you want to watch people eat, just follow me on Instagram because that's all I do on my Instagram is eat food. There you go. Okay, next up. Steph S, she says, I love the podcast. Thank you very much. My question is, do you speed up the talking to fit everything in? Because sometimes they're talking so fast. You really have to listen carefully to catch everything. That's actually funny. I think I talk slow. I think I talk fast in person. But when I hear it back, I think it's slow. Make sure you don't have the speed up when you're listening to the podcast. But we definitely don't talk faster.

to fit everything in. It is a lot of information. We do try to keep it under an hour, but no, we don't. I mean, I'm not speed talking here, so that's all I can say about that. You'll be the test. So, Steph, hopefully you're listening to this one, and maybe I just talk fast. Maybe it is just me. I think you talk at a pretty good pace.

I don't know. Okay. All right. Magda emailed Rachel. I really didn't like how much hate in shade you were throwing at Kaelin during the first interview. Hmm. But thought I would give you the benefit of the doubt and listen to part two. Kaelin is not great, no doubt.

But this perpetual and ongoing attack on her is a bad look really left a bad taste in my mouth. Oh, Magnus coming at you, Rachel. And I'm glad she did. Because she's not alone. There have been a lot of people who feel I am on this Kaelin hate train. And I find it so interesting because the podcast is called Bachelor Happy Hour. So we talk about the characters within Bachelor Nation. And so we started this podcast talking about Bachelor in Paradise.

Well, Kaelin was a hot topic. And she wasn't the only person I talk about. And I will admit, okay, you got to say. when you're wrong. During the Dean interview, I do feel like I was a little harsh rather than I like to deal in logic and facts and reason. And maybe I was a little bit too opinionated in the Dean interview, so I'll own that. But I still stand by, you know, my beliefs and how the Kalin and Blake situation panned out. And I do, I've always said, I believe they're both wrong. And I've explained the reasons for both. But I think that the whole Kalin thing is really

being blown out of proportion. Now I'm being accused of not uplifting women and everyone's saying each podcast thereafter has been bashing Kalin and I continue to bash people on the podcast. And that could not be farther from the truth. I mean, we've done 13 episodes and we've had Tasha, Nicole Hannah Allie I can't even think of all the women we've had on this show

and I've Christina Demi and I've not bashed them so I do not agree with the way that Kaylin was on the show but it's not necessarily bashing it's just more talking about what happened but yeah

I could keep going on that but I definitely don't hate Kalin I just didn't agree with what she did. And Bachelor in Paradise is over at this point. So I don't have to really talk about it anymore. So don't worry about that. Continue to listen. It's not a bash fest. It's just a place where we can have open discussion. Take that, Magna. There you go. She just dropped the mic on you. Cool. So we've got Memma, Patty, on Facebook. I hope I'm saying that right. She asked,

does Bachelor Nation ever go back to work? How come everybody's always traveling? That is a great question Joe take it away well I mean in my case I don't I can't speak for everyone but in my case I had to leave my job because I got cast on other shows and I danced for eight months out of the here so I didn't really have a choice but you know you get paid well when you do the other shows and then you have to figure things out and once you have a following on Instagram you could parlay it into something else people make a lot of money doing ads. I personally don't do too many, but people make a lot of money doing ads. And with that money, it seems like they take it and they travel and they have a lot of fun. So people

try to enjoy, people enjoy the life after The Bachelor. Yeah, I think I, every post I post on Instagram, somebody asked me, do you still work as a lawyer? Are you still an attorney? And it's a, it's a legitimate question. I get it. And it was, I actually don't practice anymore, but Right after the show, right after Bachelor, I went right back to work. Right after Bachelorette, I was still working. I just stopped working as an attorney in December of last year. But it doesn't mean that I'm not working. It just means my line of work has changed.

And I think that what people don't realize is you're given this platform and this opportunity. And so you take advantage of that in whatever way that might be. For me, I've decided to move into TV and radio, among other things. And for each other, Bachelor contestant, their path is different. So it's not that we're not working. It's just, you know, your life changes when you do this whole thing. It's turned upside down. So, you know, use it for what you want to.

But I'm going to stop there. Yeah. Yeah. Pamela emailed. Hi, Pamela. I would love some insights on Chris Harrison. What's his role in the storyline? He comes off as sincere.

But does he really care or is it part of production? What's the backstory here? Okay. It's a great question. I can only answer from my personal experience, but Chris Harrison seems like a great guy. He's, you know, he's just, he's a man's man. He's cool. Like, I get along with Chris Harrison.

I don't know him too well. I don't know if he really cares. I think the people that he is close with, he really cares about. And the people that he's not close with, he probably doesn't really care. But he doesn't, you know, I don't think he wants to hurt anyone. No, yeah, people come and go on the show. So he can only get close to so many people. When you're a contestant, you're not around Chris Harrison,

except when he pops out to tell you there's a cocktail party, there isn't one or there's a rose ceremony or some other crazy announcement. But when you're the lead, you do get to spend more time with Chris Harrison. So I can speak to that point of view or that perspective. And I think Chris is great. He is a straight shooter. He is direct. And I love to be around people that are like that.

And I will say that Chris definitely does care because I would talk to him a lot off camera. And even if whether it was about career or life in general or just your world is turned upside down. So you're confused as to how you're going to navigate this whole thing. He is very not just informative, but just really willing to listen and to give you advice on how to move forward after the show. And so I definitely can say that he absolutely cares. Next, we have an email from Ashby. Ashby says, I'd love to hear more about what they think about everything being said of all the girls in Pete's season. I definitely want to know more about how Rachel feels about what role social media plays and our perceptions of the cast members even before we actually see them on the show and how that speaks about whether they are in it for the right reasons.

Well, Ashby, I'll say you couldn't be talking to two worst people because I guarantee you, Joe has heard nothing about the girls in Pete's season. Nothing. I have no clue what they did. And I haven't either. I know they've released the cast members' pictures early. I didn't look at a single one of them. I just know that they do that. Because honestly, I don't want to.

I don't want to know before. I truly want to watch it fresh, even though it's hard to not be. spoiled these days. I don't want to know. I don't want to be tainted. I don't want to have preconceived notions about these contestants. So I have no idea. I've heard inklings about some things. Have you, Joe? No. No. I've heard anything. I have heard that there are some Pajette girls, which I'm like really didn't, that is so L.Y, as people say. That is so last year, can we not have another Paget Girl storyline? I'm hoping that's not the case. When you say Ashby, are people in it for the right reasons.

And you mentioned social media. I'm guessing there are a lot of people who maybe aren't employed or maybe have their influencer. No, no, no. People don't own grocery stores. That's why people liked you too. The right reasons. I want to touch on that because let's just call it how it is. Nobody really, what is the right reason anyways to just get married?

I mean, no one goes on the show for the right. Like, everyone has an agenda. I don't care what anyone says. That's true. But you could actually fall in love on the show. And if you're open, if you leave yourself open to falling in love, then you're there for the right reasons. Even if you kind of went there, like social media is what it is.

Instagram's big now. People can make a living off Instagram. And Bachelor Nations Instagram following is crazy. So I would say majority of the people that go on the show are going on to get popular on Instagram. That doesn't mean they're not trying to fall in love. But it means they're going to get popular on Instagram. And if they fall in love, great.

That's my personal opinion. And I think you're right. And I think that that's what's hard as a viewer to watch this show right now because you're seeing as they've already released the cast members and you see what they do and maybe you see social media influencer or you've found them on social media and you see that their entire feed looks like they want to increase their following. That's hard if you're a viewer and you're watching the show because you're like,

Well, are you just on the show for that reason? I think it's easier to believe, because when you're watching TV, I watch reality TV and other shows, and you do want to buy into this fantasy. Like, I'm a housewife fan. I want to believe that these are the true storylines, and they are not setting them up in these positions. So if I'm a fan of The Bachelor, I want to believe that people are really going on here because, you know what, nothing else has worked for them. And so they just want to see if maybe this is a way to meet somebody. And I think that that's more believable when they have a legitimate job. Yeah.

And I think so I think that that's what's hard is you're continuing to see people who don't do anything. And so it's like, I guess I'll just go on The Bachelor, you know, and grow my social media following. That's what it looks like. So it seems very disingenuous. But you have to and you also have to have some respect for casting because they are casting people who, are good people for the most part and they are casting they're not they're not stupid they know when somebody's literally going on there just to be popular they know that and those people they probably don't cast right i don't know jed got casted yeah but jedd honestly sorry i had to

it was the low-hanging fruit but yeah jed i mean jesus man i mean i mean i don't know what like he, he didn't sugarcoat at all. He's like, I'm going on here. I'm trying to build on my music career. And they let that happen. What did you think of that? What did you think? When he said, if you, if you saw this, when he said, I'm going on this, I came on this show to further my music career.

What was your initial thought? Would you, if a girl told you that, would you have sent her home? If, if I was the lead and the girl said, I came on here to further my music career, I would have sent her home. Same. I would say, okay, you're gone. The fact that he said it, I mean, I don't have an issue with him saying it because he's just being honest. Sure. And he could still be there to further his music career and also fall in love at the same time.

But, I mean, he probably shouldn't have went on there with a girlfriend. I mean, that he shouldn't have dead. But yeah, it seemed like he was constantly playing the guitar. So some people slipped through the crack. You know? Some people, they can't always get it right, but you are right to commend casting because they do do a really good job. And I think that, listen, we live in a different age right now. Being an influencer is a job these days. And so whether you like it or not, you just have to accept it. And it doesn't mean that they aren't genuine when they come on the show. You know, maybe they are trying to grow their following, but that doesn't mean that they can't still be open for love. I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but it is a legitimate job and people make legit money. So I think you should go. go on the show. I think it's better off they cast people with regular jobs and then what happens after that, you know, you have no control. No one, no one does because you don't know how popular you're going to get. You don't know if you're going to get cast in on something else. You get thrown

into this different world and you try to make the best of it. All right, Joe, you've been great. We've had a good time. Always appreciate hanging with you. But before I let you go, you're always Instagramming photos and videos of food. So we thought we'd play a little fun. I'm starting a YouTube channel too. Oh, go ahead and plug it. What's it going to be called? Um, it's untitled right now, but it's probably like, I don't know yet. Maybe it might be like let's go eat or something, but I don't know. I haven't figured it out yet. Yeah, no, I'm here for it. But we're filming tomorrow. Oh, okay. All right. So we're right on brand. We thought it'd be fun to play a fire round of this or that. And it is the food edition. So are you up for this? I'm ready. I'm ready. I love

this. We might be giving you ideas for your YouTube channel. There you go. All right, here we go. Real quick, first thing that comes to mine. Thin crust or thick crust pizza? Thin. Chicago or New York style? New York. I don't even know the difference between the two. Stay in and cook or eat out?

Both. Okay, that is not an option. Why is that? I mean, obviously. Can you cook? I could cook and Kendall could cook. So I do like staying in and eating, but we do eat out a lot. Will your YouTube channel give cooking lessons?

It might. It needs to because for us. Yeah, it's open. Beer or wine. Beer. Cheeseburger or cheese fries? Cheeseburger. Bagels or donuts?

Bagels. Ice cream or frozen yogurt? Frozen yogurt. Apple pie or pumpkin pie? Pumpkin pie. Yuck. Tacos are... Actually, I don't like...

To be honest, I don't like apple pie or pumpkin pie. Pumpkin has no flavor. That's not true. Pumpkin savory. It's sweet. I don't know. I guess it depends on the pumpkin. Yeah, it's pretty bland to me.

Tacos or casidias? Tacos. Green juice or kombucha? Cambucha. Clearly, I don't drink kombucha. Okay, green juice or kombucha? Combucha only because I'm lazy and I don't want to wait for the green juice to be made. But I prefer the green juice, actually.

Sorry. Hopefully I don't want to be a sponsor. Especially when you get the booger at the end of it that you just slurp up. What? I guess I never got that far. On a kombucha? Oh, God. What's the booker? What is it? Is it the boochia?

I guess it when it like ferment and it's like the slimy part, it's actually supposed to be good for you, but it's, it's gross. Okay, food in Chicago or food in L.A. I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but I'm going to say L.A. has got better restaurants than Chicago. You must be on a health kick. I'm not on a health kick. L.A.'s got, no, listen, I'm from Chicago. I love Chicago. We have great restaurants. food, but L.A. has some of my favorite restaurants. All right. Well, thank you for playing this fire round of this or that, the food edition. My pleasure.

As I said, you're more than welcome to take that game for your YouTube channel. You should have me on. I'm a picky eater. I would have said no to all of these things. You don't like pizza? I don't eat. I don't, no, I mean, I'll eat it, but in a weird way. No cheese, no ice cream, no frozen yogurt, no apple.

No, you'd be great. You'd be great for the show. You should have me like blind taste food. Blind taste food on the show. Okay, anyways, Joe, it's been so great to have you. Thank you so much for co-hosting with me today. You have to come back on Bachelor Happy Hour. We'd love to have you. I'll be back whenever you want me.

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