Bachelor Happy Hour - Hannah G. & Dylan on Peter’s Drama, Their Picks, and Wedding Plans

Episode Date: January 28, 2020

Hannah G. reveals her involvement in Hannah Ann being cast on the show this season and what advice she shared with Hannah Ann before she left to film. Plus, Dylan and Hannah weigh in on the Alayah-Victoria P. drama, why they think the girls this season are “bulldozing” Peter, and their predictions on how it will all end.Then, the couple shares how wedding planning is going and what life has been like since getting engaged on “Paradise.”Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We will not disappoint you. We are serving up all the latest and the greatest in the Bachelor world. Yes, we cannot wait to kick off today's episode because, let's face it, there is a lot that went down. We are loving the season so far. It seems like Pete has quite his hands full with all of these ladies right now. So I think, Rach, we should just jump right in and get it started. Okay, let's jump in with this. I don't know how you feel, Becca, but after watching, I just needed to sit back, meditate, kind of detox from all.

the drama and energy that I just watched. It was a lot. It was a lot. I, yes, I actually had to find myself taking breaks and just pausing because, you know, yes, it's a TV show. We know what we're getting into, but there is just such an abundance of drama. And I feel like I say this every week, but it's getting to the point now where this drama and not even drama between necessarily all of the girls, but just internally with how these girls are with Peter is just so much for me. Yeah, no, it's a lot. And I thought, oh, you know, maybe with the girls going to a place like Cleveland that, you know, it would be a little bit mellow. How about the girl's reaction?

When Chris Harrison walks in and he's like, you're going to Cleveland. And we're like, what? Is there Cleveland outside of the States, maybe? I appreciated the fact that they took a moment to just be like, what? Because, okay, so on my season, just to kind of put in my two cents, one night I told the guys we were going to Richmond, Virginia. And I felt like we had to reshoot that several times because at first the guys reacted the exact same way.

It was just dead silence. No one got excited. And finally I was like, okay, but there's this, this, and this is what it's known for. And then finally they got the reaction, which, you know, we were all excited at that point for. I would have been the same, I think. You know, I don't really know much about Cleveland after seeing the episode, though. I'm not going to lie, it looks like a hidden gem. I feel like it doesn't get enough credit.

Spoken like a true Midwesterner. Someone did say that, though. It was in one of the girls when they first landed. They were like, Cleveland has the nicest people. The Midwest is wonderful. And I'm like, hell yeah, girl, it is. We do have the nicest people. So I can appreciate that.

I'm not going to knock it. I used to live in the Midwest. I lived in Wisconsin for three years. But what I also found funny, though, was when, you know, and you know this, Becca, from an experience as a lead. You always get these tidbits about the place that you're going to, you know, so you can hype up the girls or the guys about where you're going. So I thought it was so interesting that they show Peter slow-mo moving up with his fist in the air. And saying, this is where Superman's from. I'm like, I'm sorry, can we not say LeBron James?

Maybe a little Baker Mayfield. Drew Carey, Cleveland Rocks. That's what should have been like a flash mob. A flash mob with him seeing the song. That's what I was hoping for. Yes. There's so many other things. Speaking of other things, though, speaking of other things,

we've got to get into this one-on-one day. I mean, Becca, I have to know your thoughts. So we see Victoria F. She gets a one-on-one. She's excited. We see that she and Peter fly around. So that's kind of telling. We're going to see Peter flying a lot this season.

We get it. Does he need a special license to fly different planes? Or if you're a pilot, can you just, is it a free-for-all? That's what I was wondering, because we've seen him now in so many different types of planes. Then I'm like, how the heck is this guy just like allowed to fly all that? Yeah, I mean, I don't know the answer to that. So maybe one of our listeners can write in and let us know. But yeah, no, you're definitely right. That's actually a really good question. I have no idea. Because what if you get into plane and you're like, oh, shit, I don't know if these are the right buttons, but I'm just going to try and go for it. Oh, that's not okay. Yeah, right. It says no pilot ever.

Yeah, I'd be like, if I was a Victoria and that happened, I'd be like, uh-uh, bye. Yeah, no, absolutely not. So we see them fly around, looking over Cleveland, taking in the side. and then they pass over an amusement park, Cedar Point. I've never been. Have you been? I have not. I've never been to Cleveland. No, I haven't either. But I actually do hear it's great at certain times of the year. But the whole park is closed down for them. That's pretty cool.

And do you think that she was excited about the date or not? Was she like, oh, God, please don't. Please, I hope I don't get the Cleveland one-on-one. I did that when we went to Wisconsin. I was like, please don't let me get the Wisconsin one-on-one. I lived here. You know, Victoria. there's something about her and you know I got to preface this for all the listeners I've never

met the girl I don't know her there's just something about her that robs me the wrong way and I think it's the fact I was trying to think about this last night I think it's the fact that she just like even with herself seems very exhausting I mean just the reactions the way that she prefaces things just seems like it'd be a lot to handle in a relationship not someone who I could necessarily have in a partner. Obviously, we know what happens at the end of the date. So I feel like they were kind of leading up the entire date to showcase the drama that was about to go down. Yeah, so let's get into the drama that's about to go down.

So she walks up, she starts to recognize the tune before she actually sees the artist slash her ex-boyfriend. and I was so shocked that she was singing all the lyrics to the song. I said, girl, you got to play it better than that. No, if I would have been her and have seen my ex up on stage and known that, like, oh, my God, I have this intimate one-on-one concert with my ex staring at me, singing a song that he is probably seeing for me in the past, I also have no poker face. I would have said something right then and there. I'd been like, this is weird, this is my ex. I don't want to do this. like, let's go have our moment away from all the craziness,

I would not have started singing the lyrics. That's just for me, it's like, this is your ex. He probably has sang this to you on the couch before. He might have wrote this song about you. We don't know. It just didn't match up. She's saying how much she hates it and it sucks, but then it's like, but you're singing the entire song,

dance and do it. I mean, I get being in the moment. You don't want to ruin that moment for Peter. because he doesn't know, but I definitely wouldn't have been singing along because poor, poor Peter. Yeah, he's right of thinking, whoa, you know all the lyrics.

She's like, yeah, I do. He used to sing them to me all the time. You know, it's so sad. It's just strange. And what I was thinking is usually when they have these singers on the show, for the most part, they're up and coming and a lot of it's like new songs

that you haven't heard before, at least like for the couple of performers that we had on my season, besides Betty, who's still sing new songs, I was like most of them were unreleased tracks are just like just coming out and so I was wondering like is it I don't listen to country music so anyone out there please let me know

I don't know if this is a song that's been out there for a while that she could have known the lyrics to or if this legit was one of his ones that he may have wrote while they were together and she just knew it because he was practicing that's what I want to know I want to say oh go ahead I'm sorry I was just say I want her to be sitting here so I can ask her all the things about this

well she did say that that was her ex right before she came on the show and he didn't want her to go on the show. So she definitely knew the song probably before anyone else. I mean, Peter wasn't singing along, so I don't know. I didn't see anybody in the audience singing along. And, you know, from behind the scenes, they've been there hours before singing that song, you know, probably 10 times before the couple actually gets there. Right.

But what I found most strange was that she, Peter and Chase are talking without her. I know with Betty it was different for you because you're a major fan and so like y'all got to have that moment but when Russell Dickerson performed for me I never really talked to him oh no I know for a fact I didn't talk to him on camera so there was no camera there

so we're watching this all play it on camera and then Victoria goes and pulls him to the side what purpose did you have for doing that other than saying did you know it doesn't even matter if you're over Chase and the relationship has ended you have no more feelings you don't care what he thinks

you gotta immediately give your time and attention to Peter yeah why would you do that nothing came about that conversation other than her saying did you know well and that's why if I was Peter if I would have been in his shoes

I would have thought that was very strange to have my date go and pull this country singer aside because that just doesn't happen usually you're like if you're on a date with someone you're coupled up you're with them Like, for the ones, like, I had a couple country singers on mine.

I was with both of my guys talking to the singer briefly, you know, for a handful of minutes. Not very long, but we were always together. So I would have thought that very odd that my date would have pulled the performer aside. You don't owe him anything. And I kept thinking, what if Peter walked around the corner and saw you talking to him? And then I also kept thinking, well, her bio was correct. In her bio, she said something along the lines of she'll travel anywhere for an artist or for country music or something like that. And so I thought, okay, Chase is her ex. This is fitting. It's starting to make sense. Guess that traveling paid off. Did it not. Right. It just, I, you know, and for me personally, this is, this is me. I am all about honesty, even to the point where even if it's awkward and make someone uncomfortable, like just be honest. And so if I were in her shoes, I would have still talked to Chase because,

at that point, hopefully it's over with. She doesn't have feelings. It doesn't have to be as awkward as it is. Just have a conversation with all three of you and be like, oh yeah, like this is kind of weird like we used to date, whatever, but good job up there. Like just keep it short and sweet if it doesn't need to be a thing, which obviously that's why I'm kind of questioning, well, how long ago did you guys actually break up and are the feelings totally gone or are you just on the show to kind of like boost yourself? I had all these questions running through my had last night. Yeah. And so here's a question I had. And so I'm curious is your take on this. How did you feel about her reaction at the nighttime portion when she admits to Peter, which I'm

glad she did, but she admits to Peter that she dated Chase before the show. What was your take of her reaction? I thought it was strange. I thought it was odd because again, like I was just saying, if things had ended and you were over it, you know, and we've seen seasons past, people not disclosing that they had a relationship up until that point. And so it was weird because if you guys had broken up and you were over it and ready to go on the show, then why is it, why are you crying? Why are you so scared to tell him? If it's done, it's done and just confront it and tell him and let it be over with. But she was going on and on about how scared she was and she was afraid he was going to be mad and upset and end the relationship.

But like, if the really, everyone has past relationships. It's, you know, everyone has had that. X. And so if it's truly over and she's moved on, it doesn't need to be this big of a deal. It just, the words, you know, for her to be on the show and trying to date this other guy, it wasn't adding up for me. Exactly, Becca. I have the same thoughts. I thought she made a bigger deal of it with her tears and walking away. If you're over it, then you're very matter of fact. Look, this is in the past. It happened. It was awkward. As Peter did, let's just laugh about how weird as he kept

saying this situation is. And I was like, is she really crying in a corner with her nose in a corner like she was in time out? To me, it was very indicative of how Victoria F. handles conflict and difficult situations. She handles them like a toddler. Yeah. Well, and that's what I'm kind of saying where she just seems exhausting in a sense of her reactions to different situations now that we've seen are just, it's over the top. It's dramatic. It's just more than it needs to be, I think. And if you're saying you're over this guy and the relationship was in the past and yes, you dated and it's weird to be seeing him, I understand that. But then to walk away from your date and cry and make a bigger scene out of it, in Peter's eyes, that would only make me question it more. Exactly.

And look, like, I've talked about this on our podcast previously too. Like, I understand having exes show up and having it be strange. They flew my ex to Peru nine hours and then took him on a six-hour bus ride to. show up at my hotel. That wasn't fun. That I did not appreciate that. I did not want that confrontation, you know, but in that sense, like, I didn't, it was a big deal because at that point I had already had my overnight with Ari. I had already told him that I loved him. And I was afraid that I didn't want him to question where I was in, in my feelings for this ex. And I was completely over it. I had been done. The relationship had been over for a while. And of course,

yes I was still on edge like okay I of course have to go talk to Ari about this now because it's just strange and there's this elephant in the room but I didn't like I feel like the way I handled it was pretty matter of fact like there wasn't a ton of tears it wasn't over the top where I was like yeah this happened it sucked I didn't appreciate it I didn't want him to be here I didn't want him to have to have this stupid conversation on TV for whatever reason he wanted to but it's done like I didn't want him to question it but and that was it and so um If she's saying these words and it has to be adding up, and to me, it's just not. Becca, the difference between you and her is maturity, point blank, period, because you're right. You handled that situation exactly how someone handles it when they're over a situation. Okay, moving on, continuing the episode of Poor Peter, we had the group date, which was a football game, which as a football fan, I thought it was kind of cool, not a Cleveland Browns fan, but the fact that the girls got to play at First Energy Stadium, which is the home of the Cleveland Browns is pretty cool. But they have this group date. They're playing football, which is exciting and scary at the same time. I don't know how much I would want to have that date. But maybe I would have played it like Victoria P. who purposely set out the game because, or I'm sorry, that's my opinion. Let me take the word purposely out. She sat out of the game because she has back problems. And did I miss something, Becca? Is this a chronic back issue or did this develop on the show? Well, that's what I was wondering. I think the only thing I could think of when her back injury happened is remember the first group day where they were in the, like, airplane simulator that the thing that was spinning them up and down that she got sick on, did that hurt her back?

Is that what it was from? I have no idea of this. So this was new to me. I don't know. Victoria, P., if you're out there listening, please DM us and let us know because I want to know. Well, she'll say that's where it happened or she'll say it's chronic. I think that it was a strategy, and it was a strategy that worked. You don't have the bruises.

You don't have to go out there and sacrifice your body. She got more time with Peter. Yeah. She got a massage from Peter. I mean, her hair wasn't messed up. Her makeup wasn't smeared. I mean, she didn't look like the other girls did after the game. Either way it goes, she won, right?

It didn't matter what team that she was on. So I definitely think that she did it on purpose. I thought it was cool that they had the local football legends hosting it with them. Because at first I was like, who is that? Who is that? It was Josh Cribs and Hanford Dixon for anyone out there wondering. They weren't just two random people. Those were football legends.

So what did you think about the game, though? I really love that you laugh. I want a gif made of McKenna trying to catch the ball because I am McKenna. Let me just say I'm not making fun of her in any way, shape, or form. because if I was on this date, I would be McKenna. I am not athletic whatsoever. My hand-eye coordination just is not there. Gary makes fun of me so often.

And so I found it. Wait, Becca, there is a meme. The mean girls meme. When she's standing there trying to catch the ball and it hits her chest, there's totally a meme of this. Oh, like the Karen in Mean Girls? Yeah, Karen. Yeah.

She's like, I got it. I got it. I got it. And the ball bounces off the chest. That is it to a T. No, so that just, like, God bless McKenna, because, but I do say she did try because she didn't catch him. She's like, I want to do it again. Shoot it to me again.

And so I'm like, you know, this girl's putting it all out there. She knows football is not her strength, but she's just making the most of it. Also, I would like to say a touchdown is six points. So I don't know why we kept giving them seven points, but that's okay. But them, the tie that happened at the end, I don't want to get too detailed into this, but if you saw next season, we did evolve. ball game and they ended up where they made it fair to where both teams ended up coming and I was livid because my team actually won at least this was a tie so it made sense but you really do like in these girls really put their all into it you know they their bodies they were sacrificing

everything and the fact that you it's settled on a tie is kind of hurtful because you're fighting for something here it's a competition you're not trying it's not trying to be even kill so I did feel sorry for the girls because I know that they were really fighting for that extra time. And if I had known that it was going to end in the tie, then I wouldn't have tried. Yeah. Hands out. Well, and that's, you, so you had it on next season where the volleyball game, both teams ended up going to the cocktail party. That's like on R.A. season, we had a bowling date. And my team won. And he ended up bringing the other group on to the after party too. And I was like, okay, whatever. I kind of expected it.

But that was actually the part in Ari season where Crystal had her moment where she kind of freaked out and was like, well, why did we play so hard? He lied. He went back on his word tip thing. It's like the show just has to either say, okay, if you guys win, you win and only half of you come. This whole like, oh, last minute, just kidding, everyone's going to come. Then just do that in the first place. Yep. Nope.

I felt Crystal. On that season, I was like, I understand Crystal's anger at this point. point. That was me. Thank God it just wasn't shown on camera. Yeah. Um, okay, so the real drama, you would think would have happened on the football field, right? With girls tackling each other, which I was shocked to let them tackle, tackling each other, running over each other, bumps, bruises, but the real bruises came at the nighttime portion when Alea herself waltzes back into the group date and doesn't even acknowledge or sit with the girls, walks straight back into the room and interrupts poor Cheyenne, who has been crying about the attention she hasn't been

getting. And remember, she wanted to grab Peter first. And then, was it Victoria? I can't remember. Someone else grabbed? Yeah. Yeah, she grabs them first. And then she gets interrupted by a girl who's been kicked off the show. I mean, Sheehan just can't catch a break. No, she can't. Well, and that's the thing. All of the girls are sitting down at first. And the drama is, why are we all here? Like, Sheehan had four touchdowns. She should be the first one. Like, you think that's where the drama is going to lie, and that is not the case. It is then with Alea. And I would have been, if I was the girls on the couch, I would have been like, you've got to be kidding me. My first initial question, though, was did Peter want to bring her back?

Was this his request? Or was this the producers being like, hey, walk up on in there? That's what I would have first wanted to know. Well, I thought so until I saw Peter's face, and he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't ask for this. Well, and that's the thing. Like, if he didn't ask for that, then that really sucks. It's like, poor Peter. Poor Peter. And but his face says it all. And I just, in that moment, I was drinking wine, laughing so. Maybe that's the worst reaction. But I was like, oh my God, his face just was priceless. Poor Peter. I know. He was like, again, this? Like, I can't catch a break. So who do you believe in this? Do you believe Alley or do you believe Victoria P? Well, and so last week I was saying I was kind of leaning towards believing in Victoria P because, I mean, she told Peter, yes, we knew each other not very well. And then you see the flip side where L.A is like, we're friends.

Like I told her not to say it because I didn't want to be disqualified. So at that point, I was leaning towards Victoria P. But the interaction between her and Alaya don't add up. Alea is saying one thing. Victoria P. of course is saying another. But then when Peter goes and brings Victoria P. back in the room with Alea, and they have this, like, she goes up straight for the hug, like, right away. And if this is someone that you're not very close with, that was off to me. It's like this awkwardly long hug.

And then they sit down. And Victoria P. is then fixing her makeup and rubbing her arm and wiping her tears. And I'm like, again, like, what you're saying doesn't make sense to what you're showing in this moment. And so then I start to maybe believe a lay it. Like maybe they didn't know each other much more than she's letting on. It just, it was off. It was a very strange scenario to be watching. And Peter just kind of sat back.

And I think Peter's like, what? I'm just going to let these girls kind of have at it because he needs to figure it out. But I think for both of the girls, something's not adding up on either end. And at that point, I'm just kind of now I'm over it. And I would just be like, look, like, I know that Peter's really into Victoria P. but there comes a moment in time where you still have other girls that are genuinely there for you

and honest and it's just like cut the fat if you will at some point. Okay, yeah. Becca, I completely agree with you when it comes to the Victoria-Aa situation because I also believed Victoria P

over Alea because I just didn't see the motive or the need for her to actually lie about it. But then I heard Alea. And I immediately started typing down notes because I was like, Okay. I know this is the lawyer in me, but immediately I was like, all right, let's compare things factually. And what Victoria P said doesn't line up. It made absolutely no sense. And particularly was the fact that when Peter confronted her, she couldn't defend herself. She kept saying, I have so much to say. And she didn't say shit. All she did was cry. And she just kept saying, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. know. Now remember, Victoria said she only knew Alea for three hours and that she alluded that

Alea was there for the wrong reasons. Like, she wanted the fame. So to find out that Victoria, you don't just travel with anybody. And the fact that they've gone to Vegas together says a lot. And that's not even doing a deep dive. I'm sure they've communicated with each other on social media, liked comments, written comments, like text to each other. Exactly. So that to me is enough. If I'm Peter, I've had enough. And so this, This is when I'm just like, Peter, you've got to make the tough decisions. Victoria P flat out lied to you. Unless we just aren't seeing something.

And as I say, we do this podcast based on what we see. I'm not going to assume anything. Victoria P lied to you. And she lied to you and she knew exactly what she was doing when she said it about Alea. And the fact that they were friends and she betrayed her should have been enough for Peter to say, you know what, Victoria, you have to go. So I don't understand why he continues to believe her and says he trust her when she flat out. lied to you. Right. And then the fact that she came in there, like you said, it was wiping her tears and giving her a hug. I would have swat at the shit out of her hand if I was a laia.

I would have been like, you don't get to throw me under the bus, drive the bus over me, and then try to take me to the hospital in that same damn bus. That's not how this works. Yeah. And I think Peter was hoping to have that conversation with the three of them, as awkward as it is, to get some clarity. And I think actions speak louder than words. And in that moment, if I was Peter, watching this interaction between the two and hearing what they had both said in the past, I'd be like, something isn't lining up here. And both of these girls are now causing me, like, more, not necessarily pain, but more, like, heartache than it's worth. Yeah. It's like, did you, I'm sorry, and I'm going to reference Hannah's season, but when people show you who they are,

believe them. So, just like in Hannah's situation, when Jed told her that he was there for the music, believe what he said this is exactly what is happening with victoria and alea you know flat out that she's a liar at this point you need to believe in that because you don't really know her all that well like people can put on a facade the first time you meet them or on a date but now you know things about her that have happened and transpired in front of you i just don't understand it and i know we need to get to kelsey's date and then we'll talk about peter's decision because i just you know I can only feel sorry for you so many times before I'm like, you know what? You're making the wrong decisions.

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like learning how to properly open a bottle of champagne. Yeah, I did not understand. I thought, whoa, okay. And then I thought, okay, she must be going home. Maybe she's getting this date because she's going home. And that's what I thought because, you know, and Rachel, I'm sure you can attest to this. But throughout this season, you, of course, have your guys that you are really into that you like, that you want to spend those one-on-one times with.

But then you have some that you're not necessarily sure if it's there, and you want to use that time to see. And I honestly thought that he chose Kelsey to be like, okay, I might have reached the end of the road with her. I'm just, I'm going to use this time to see. And then at the end, it's going to be a way to maybe not give her a roast tonight. That's what I went into this date, assuming. Yeah. I will say she did, maybe, you know, he was giving her for the benefit of the doubt. He has a very positive person.

He said maybe that just wasn't the right environment for her. Let me get to know her one-on-one. Obviously, in this date, she was a complete 180 from Champaign Gate. She was engaging. I was actually impressed with her response about Alea coming back. I thought that that was so well said. And, you know, then Peter described her as down to earth and drama-free. And I thought, my God, Peter is the king of short-term memory.

First, he can't remember that Victoria P lied to him. Now he can't remember all the drama caused by Kelsey with Champaign Gate. So I don't know. But I did appreciate Kelsey opening up. It was heartbreaking to hear about her story. And I thought Peter handled it well. You know, it's hard when you come from a two-parent home, your parents are still together. And then you hear somebody tell their story and you realize, gosh, things could just be so different.

Right. So I was really sad to hear that for Kelsey. Yeah, we're starting to see new sides to her. I think kind of how I was thinking in my mind yesterday is that she's kind of like an onion and we're finally peeling back the layers. You know, she is one of more of the emotional girls in the house. Like even when she got the one-on-one date, you saw her tear up and cry. And I think that's just who she is. But now it's starting to make sense of why. she reacts in certain ways, I think, a little bit more because of how she opened up. Yeah. Yeah, no, for sure. And we see her get the rose at the end of the date, and rightfully so. I mean, after that date, she deserved it. But I mean, I don't know about you, Becca. Again, I've already said it already on the podcast today. When people show you who they are, believe them. We've seen one side of Kelsey. Now we've seen another. And she was saved from that environment when she was on that one-on-one, but she's got to go right back into it. Final thoughts real quick. Want to know you're taking whose side you're on when it comes to. the Alea versus Victoria, another Victoria, Victoria F, about the private information that she shared

with the other girls in the house. Both Victoria's. I think that was crappy of Alleya to do. That was Victoria's story to tell. I don't think anyone

needs to be telling anyone else stories, especially Alea coming back, knowing that the girls don't have their phones, knowing that they don't have contact to the outside world,

and then to come back and share all these little insider tidbits of her time away, really sucks and I can say that because on RAS season McKell she left for a week

because her grandfather and I believe it was her grandfather and fortunately passed away but she had her phone and came back and was sharing all this stuff of like what people were saying about the other girls

which really gets in people's heads and so I think that that was not for her to share she shouldn't have brought any of it up to anyone else and you know she didn't know if Victoria had already told Peter

so that was kind of a crappy situation I think at this point, like, I don't, the Victoria's are having issues, Alleyas having issues, and Peter just needs to get to the bottom of all of this BS. Yes, I will just say that I, we saw the moment where Alaya communicated to, I think it was McKenna and Hannah-Anne, that about the Victoria F situation with Chase. And you could tell that she was just kind of saying it. She assumed that everyone knew. And I could see that that was a mistake.

And I think that it was McKenna and Hannah-Anne that probably told other people in the house. And so I totally could see how she slipped up and was like, oh, I just assume everybody knew because it's already happened. She had no idea they didn't know. So I can see both sides on that one. So when she said it, when Alea said that to Hannah Ann and McKenna in private, like she had just gotten back, you know, she already knew she was going to be in like the lion's done with all these women and getting the rose for a date that she's not even on after being sent home. There should not have been any other girl's names in her mouth. She shouldn't have even riddled that off at that point. I don't know.

I'm kind of torn on that one. Not that I want to be the one who takes up for Alea, but I could see how that mistake could be made. I don't know. Agree to disagree. But we end this episode with Peters at the Rose ceremony, and he's confused about Victoria P. and Alea, both telling different versions.

I mean, I don't know what Peter's going to decide, but to me, I think it's very obvious that there's, lies and some truths on both parts and for me I would have to send both of them home. Time is just too precious. You don't have time for little lies or whatever it may be. If you're going to question both of these girls at this point, you're going to

go throughout the rest of the relationship, probably questioning them. And so it's better to just be done and spend time with the girls who are actually there who have not lied to you at this point. Yeah, poor Peter, I will say that. This season is a shit show. I was proud of DeAndre and Natasha for standing up and saying

something. They scanned the rest of the room. Nobody had anything else to say. I just, it's just frustrating as a viewer and as somebody who's been through this experience, like, I can't name the next Bachelorette. I can't name who Peter should just be with. It's just like the same shit, different day with these women. So to be continued. We're four weeks in and we're still iffy about most of these relationships and women. So, okay, guys, coming up, we have Hannah and Dylan in the studio. So stay tuned. Can't wait to chat with that. What's up, everybody? We are back, and we have some very special guests in the studio with us today. Now, I'm not there, and I'm actually having serious FOMO at the time because I've never met these two before, but they come with glowing recommendations. I've heard amazing things about the both of them. Let's give a warm welcome to Hannah G. and Dylan in the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast studio today. We're so excited to be here.

Rach, I'm going to play off your sentiments because this is also... Well, I've met you guys before at the wedding in Mexico, but I have been... We did take shots together. I don't know if there was very much alcohol. But we have been getting so many requests to have you. I've been wanting to sit down with both of you and see you together after the lovely engagement. And I also have been dying to see Hannah's ring. So you guys, it is beautiful over here, but we cannot wait to get down and dirty with you.

and get some life future plans talking. Yeah, Dylan, you already outed Becca and said y'all took shots together. So I want you to keep that same energy for the podcast, all right? Like, let's just keep spilling that kind of tea. Do we need some wine shots, maybe? No, listen, I can do that all day.

It's just when she tugs on my arm and I have to stop. He's on the other end of the table. Not today. You're in a safe space, Dylan, today. So just feel comfortable. And feel free to say anything that you want. This is your first time on the podcast.

Are y'all scared? Are you nervous? Uh, no. I love talking to new people, and we're just excited. We woke up really, like, awake. Today we slept great, so super stoked. I thought you were going to end up. I love talking, and I was going to say, you are a woman after my own heart, because I'm the same way. I do love talking.

Okay, Hannah, then I'm going to start there, because we didn't see you talk a lot on Bachelor, on Bachelor in Paradise. And so I feel like this is great because I want to hear that. And I'm sure our listeners do too. You know, I hear so like how fun you are. And everyone's like, she's so great. But we don't get to see that on TV. What do you think is up with that?

You know, I don't know. It's funny. I was saying the other day, I came off the show and I thought I was going to be like a, like, kind of like quirky. Which other day I wrote quirky when I was answering this question. I totally murdered the spelling, per usual. But, you know, I thought it was going to be like kind of the wild, like, goofy one. And I came off and I was like, oh, maybe I'm like painted as the shyish one, which maybe I'm a little timid sometimes. But I don't know.

We'll see. We'll see how did it go. It's like, you know. Well, and maybe playing into paradise, I mean, you guys coupled up pretty early on. Of course, there was some drama in the beginning with some other fellas. But after a while, once you guys were in your zone and just doing your thing and enjoying it, I think, away from the cameras, that's probably why we didn't. see so much because you guys were happy and falling in love and not

part of the drama at that point so I understand that edit quote unquote but yeah I'm excited to chat with you guys more I do want to maybe hear you rap later oh gosh I don't even know if that exists anymore but I'll give it a shot Hannah it has to

I think it's still in your Instagram bio right? Oh yeah it is I've done that creepy yeah I mess myself up with that so yeah I'll freestyle with you Hannah if you if you want to freestyle. I would definitely like a buddy, so let's do it. I'll drop a beat for you.

Perfect. Okay. At the very end. I mean, I was just going to say, let's just get both of you guys talking and your opinions about this season because I'm curious as to what you think. And I want to just start off the top with you guys know people on this season that Becca and I really don't. You know, we've met Peter before, but we don't know the girls. But Hannah, you know Hannah Ann and Dylan, you're close with Peter. So just off the top, what's your take of this season?

Yeah, I think these girls are kind of bulldozing over Pete right now, at least from the first few episodes, which I kind of feel bad. But I think he'll figure it out, get comfortable. It's got to be super nerve-wracking for him being in that position. I think everybody assumes the lead is calm, collected, but it's just as new to them as it is to the contestants, essentially, just from the other side. So I think Pete's going to kind of get his bearings a little bit,

feet under him but man I mean these girls are ruthless to each other they are I want to know when you sit back and watch week by week are you texting him are you sitting on the coach texting him and like Pete why did you say this or why did you do that or why did you let her act this way I would be texting my friend I think constantly and just like ripping my hair out I'll text Pete but I usually just tweet about it and I think he sees it there yeah but it's just he's just like yeah it's a wild one we like me him and Tyler went to the Rams game and we were He was just like, you guys is an insane season, like, just telling us about that. No spoilers, of course.

But, no, it's fun to watch. I think it's exciting. It obviously looks like it's going to be an insane ending, as we saw from the preview. Yeah. We sat down with Peter, week one, you know, after his premiere, and he made a comment to Rach and I at that point, and he said, I just could not catch a break. Like, week after week, there was always something to deal with. he felt like he could never just breathe and I think fully enjoy just the moment

with the ladies and I mean watching it back now we're what in week four and I agree and I have a feeling that it's just going to become even more prevalent as it goes on and harder for him so I think as you as you watch if you have any

maybe some kind words for him throughout the season because he's going to need probably a pick me up after watching all the drama unfold but did you have that when you were like Did you have any moments where it was like, okay, there's no drama at all going on? Either of you guys. You know, for me, I mean, of course there's going to be drama.

Yes, it's a TV show. On my end, though, I had my guys that I knew I was pretty much set with that I knew would be at the end that I had those feelings for. And I think I lucked out because the guys that did bring the drama and that were kind of going at it in the house, for the most part, that was kept away for me. That was between the dudes and then I could interact with my guys and focus on them. There, of course, were moments where I was like, this drama is bullshit. It has to stop. It's too much. But I, compared to Peter, I feel like I really had the good hand in removing myself a little bit.

Yeah, I would say by mid-season, after the two-on-one, my drama stopped. But I think what's different is my drama was between the same two people, as opposed to Peter's season. The drama is just everywhere. and it's running rapid in the house. And I think that's what's so hard to watch. I mean, like, good to watch, but hard to watch. If you were a part of this season, I can only imagine. Speaking of people that are a part of this season,

Hannah G., what, do you want people to call you Hannah G? Are you sick of it? You know, last year I was all about the Hannah G thing and stuff, but, like, you know, I feel like I've been called Hannah my whole life. So I'm good with Hannah, but, like, I'm not on the show anymore or anything. like that. So I feel like Hannah G's kind of like, but also like I guess that's what people assume like, you know, they associate me as being Hannah G's. So whatever, we do have a Hannah Ann on the season, which I do know her. And I thought she was going to be Hannah S. But, you know,

some people called her Hannah Ann, which is her middle name Anne or her second part of her name or whatever. And so I was surprised that, you know, she's going by Hannah Ann. So it's not another Hannah. Is that what she goes by you? Usually back home. I feel like the first week I ever met her, I was calling her Hannah. And then it kept getting mixed up in the studio because we used to model together. And she was like, people actually kind of call me Hannah-Anne a lot. And I was like, oh, okay.

So perfect. That's the question I was going to ask you. And I'm going to call you Hannah. I want to call people what they want to be called. I would be sick of Hannah-G as well. So Hannah, you're close with Hannah-Anne. How close is your friendship? So we used to shoot together.

She's super sweet girl. We haven't gone on vacation together or anything like that. But I definitely, like, am supporting her. And I know she is really excited about or was very excited about it being Peter before she went on the show. But, yeah, I mean, I thought, you know, honestly, watching the first episode, I was like, whoa. Okay, Hannah Ann, I see you. But, you know, she's taking advantage of her time and everything. But I thought she would be somebody who would be more timid, especially in the first night.

But she was like, I'm going for it. And I was like, all right. Hey, go for it. Did you give her advice before the show? I feel like it was simple advice. Like, don't hold back. And, you know, when you're in, like, all the interviews and stuff, don't constantly question what you're going to say because, you know, you want it to be. a genuine situation like if this is how you feel let's talk about it if it's not how you feel

like you don't have to alter it i feel like i mean there's times where it's appropriate to possibly alter it but for the most part like if you are signing up for this sign up for the whole thing like feel it and it's okay to have feelings and things like that and so it was very simple simplified version of um advice for it i think people that have friends on the seasons before come in with an advantage. You know, you look at, I mean, the first example that comes up is Tia and Raven. Like, you usually see those people go far. And I think because they do get some type of advice before, I mean, if my friend was going on the show, I would totally give her a roadmap on how to succeed in the show. Starting with the fact that she's not Hannah S and she's Hannah Ann. So she doesn't have an initial

after her name. She's branding herself in the proper way. I feel like I went into what well, being one of many girls on R.A. season, I went in pretty blind. And I had watched the show for some seasons, and I kind of knew what to expect, you know, through watching it. But there's so much more behind the scenes, like little things, daily things, living with 30 other women. Was it ever advice, like, okay, in this situation, kind of remove yourself from the drama or don't talk about the other girls, anything like that? I really tried to give a fair amount of advice. I didn't want to just, like, give her all these, like, you know, secrets and tips and tricks and stuff like that. I wanted her to be able to experience it for herself, figure things out for herself, which is what I did. But I also was, like, okay, like, you know, it's okay to feel things and, like, you know, make sure you bring, like, what was it, like, extra sticky boobs or something like that. It was like a few random bullets of things that, like, might help her. Or, like, putting extra eyelashes, like, if you're picky about them, which I think she doesn't even need to wear eyelashes because her eyeballs are perfect.

But I don't know. It was, like, small, like, random things, I feel like. Like, wearing one pair of black shoes, doesn't matter, you know. Okay. Yeah. Did you put her up for the show? So, you know, one of – so I posted a picture with her. and one of the producers actually reached out to me.

And they're like, oh, my gosh, who is this chick? And I was like, you know, she was in a relationship. It was like months and months ago. And I went on, you know, I told her, I was like, oh, my gosh, it's kind of funny. Somebody reached out, blah, blah, blah. And she had a breakup and everything. And then she messaged me. She was like, this is kind of random.

Like, I just feel like I'm, like, wandering around, like, whatever. Like, do you think they'd be interested? And I was like, yeah, like, let me connect you. And honestly, I mean, she would have gotten on the show regardless of me. But part of me is like, ooh, like I made a connection with them. Kind of helped get her foot in the door, if you will. Okay. Well, so Hannah, we know that you know Hannah Ann.

Dylan, of course you know, Peter. Did you – and this is a little bit different because obviously you weren't in the Bachelor role, but you, of course, still were in the mansion living with him. Did you have any advice for him going into being the lead? I think with Pete he just like I think he just needs to focus on what he wants And that's what I told him Like when it comes down to it at the end of the day

This is such like a fleeting moment of our lives And I think Hannah and I talk about it all the time Kind of like being in the public eye So you want to pick someone or have the ending That you're comfortable with You know not for the next month But for the next like whatever 50 years So you

Now I know it's still early on But watching the girls You can kind of tell You can kind of tell who he really is starting to have feelings for who he's really gravitating towards there's a he I think Pete does a good job of really engaging with all the women and making them all feel special and important but he there's definitely some that stand out so are you surprised with the ones he's kind of forming those strong connections with or are you a little bit shocked is there

anyone that you think oh I thought he would have went for her I'm not surprised by Hannah Ann um I'm surprised by Victoria Victoria P or F? I can see him liking Victoria P too. I'm surprised at Victoria F. Why? Why are you surprised by Victoria F? I think in the preview, it looks like she's got two sides to her,

but she's showing one side to P and then one side to everybody else. So that's like surprising but not surprising, I guess, because you don't see everything as the lead. But I think it's going to come, like those girls are definitely going to go really far. whoever's the lawyer Kelly Kelly yeah she she's like

probably the most mature one in the house from like an emotional standpoint I would say and I think she's a lot different than everybody else but Pete's also seems to be like pretty into her so he's got some a diverse I guess group of girls

yeah well I was just gonna say Dylan you're being very politically correct because you're a little spicy on Twitter when you're commenting and watching the show back keyboard warrior Somebody give Dylan a shot or something to loosen him up. I'm just going to open up this bottle of wine right now. Let's do it.

She's doing it. I get reprimanded. Don't give it a shot. Yeah. Let it out, Dylan. Come on. You get reprimanded. Listen to me.

Like, that's why I said, yeah, yeah. Okay, so let's start with. We need to give him some wine to get those loose lips going. Let's start with Alleya slash Eliya, depending on how you see the side of the argument versus Victoria Pee. Who do you believe in this situation? Victoria P is the one that she was like, she told me not to say that I knew her, right? Yeah. The one that he went line dancing with, yeah. We're Victoria P fans over here.

Why? I think she just like seems to be like a genuine person and she's just like kind of focused on Peter. And I think like telling someone, telling the producers, like I knew someone on my season and I didn't tell the producers that because I was scared like I could get in trouble you're not supposed to talk about going on the show like all that so I could see kind of that side of it yeah take a bigger sip right now we want the goods to come out Chuck Chuck but Hannah oh go ahead sorry no I was saying I mean I mean I'll just flat out so I don't really like her that much I think she kind of involves herself in the drama a lot and I kind of tried to

stay away from people like that and so I don't know I mean I think it's unnecessary. It just kind of means like you're not there for the whole point of the show. I felt like it was a little funky. Trust me. I love me some Victoria P. Like for some reason, I'm like, she just seems very sweet and I get it. But when somebody's, you know, being kicked while they're down a little bit,

Alea, which I kind of don't agree with some of her actions either. But, like, to bring up something that was maybe in between you guys as friends, Like, you know, she told me not to tell you, blah, blah, and I was like, ah, like, I get it. But that's not a really crazy secret. I feel like. Oh, she took advantage of the situation. Yeah. Like, I mean, it's a competition at the end of the day.

I just felt like it was a little funky. Like, I wouldn't, I would not have brought that up, I don't think, because everything is so hush, hush. Before the show, you're terrified to even tell your cousin, let alone somebody else who's going on the show. So you're saying it. For Aleas side, like you would be like her and just say, you know, let's not talk about it. Let's not make this a thing. Let's go in and not, like, stating that we're friends that we know each other. Is that what?

I felt like, yeah, maybe she should have, you know, not hidden this little secret or whatever. But at the end of the day, it's like, it seems like it was just something to pick at her about. Like it was like you and your girl Like hey like maybe we don't mention it Whatever like we can get in trouble But it seemed like a random kind of like I don't know I feel like they shouldn't have made it a thing

Yeah so you're a fan of keeping secrets Totally There's something about Victoria P that I don't trust I have said that Becca Have I not said that from the beginning I'm like there is something that's off You think that she's gonna crack

I think you're waiting for that moment Where she kind of... Let me toss this question up to both of you and either one of you can answer. Are you sick of the pageant girl drama slash narrative? Yes. Yes, and I did pageants and I was ready to get out of them

for that very reason in general. So, I mean, it's just... Let's get a new one in there. Yeah, let's get a new, like, hobby, sport, you know? Career. But also it makes great TV. Yes. Well, I mean, you can...

Career, yes. But, you know, a new... People go on the job, go on the show, and come back to do what they were doing prior. Yeah. I think when I'm starting to realize the moral of this is less pageant girls. And just be honest, I think if Alaya were to go, everything, you know, kind of bitter in the butt, I think if she went on and was like, yep, we know each other. We did pageants. We went to Vegas together and that was it.

And not try to hide anything. It would have been a different outcome. Or I think she would have stayed around maybe a little bit longer. But just to be honest, people, if you know someone, you know someone, don't lie about it. But if it's not that big of a deal, it doesn't need to be a big deal. Totally. Yeah, from what we've seen so far, I have a hard time seeing who the next Bachelorette is going to be. And I have a hard time seeing that Peter can actually, you know, kind of sift through all the drama and actually find the diamond in the rough.

So my question to either one of you is, do you think that Peter finds love? love at the end of all of this. Like today or at the end of the season? At the end of the season? No. Okay, Zill with the hot take. I mean, it's just, can we cuss? Yeah, oh yeah.

It's a shit show. Like, this is a shit show. I think it's worse than my season and, um, kind of, you know, obviously saw what happened there. But I think there, I mean, there's no way, especially watching it back. That's something a lot of people who watch the show now, they think, like, oh, this is like live TV or it's like a day or two delayed. This is months or whatever prior. Watching it back, if Peter's with someone, has got to be terrible.

Like, I know on Paradise, I haven't watched the first few episodes. Because you didn't want to see Hannah with anyone else if that part was too hard? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. When we sat down with Peter at the beginning of this, he said, he's like, yeah, it was hard for me because I fell for a lot of girls. It wasn't just the one or two.

It was many. and so yeah to be the final person to kind of watch that back with him it definitely is not going to be easy and who knows you know at this point I don't know if he is with anyone if he's just riding solo enjoying watching the season but it would be hard I think because at this point it looks like Peter doesn't necessarily know what he truly wants and that's what I would question yeah and I think like Rachel you and Beck

can probably speak to this more but as the lead you probably like relive a lot of the emotions that you have so like watching you back because that's got to be hard on your current relationship too so I I think Paradise is more successful for a reason

I think Bachelorette and Bachelor tough to win it out really so you didn't watch Paradise together fuck no we watched the end together we watched our proposal

did you talk about it though like hey okay I know you're not gonna watch it but this is what goes down this is what my conversation yeah we talk about everything we over communicate yeah we over over communicated about like all of that stuff and we knew it was in the past and everything but it's still just kind of like like you know like when you know millions of people are watching or saying things or commenting things and it's it does you can say just shut it off it doesn't matter but when you know it's still out there and people are like judging things or saying things about your relationship it does get to you and it's like it's a bummer but we we definitely over communicated and I tried to help him through some hard parts he's He definitely helped me through some hard parts and, yeah, go team.

We made it to the end. You guys, well, yeah, look at you know. I mean, it definitely tests a relationship in a very different way than any normal relationship. And it's when people are watching the show, to them, it's real time. To them, it's like it just happened. And they can't always remember that, okay, we did film months prior. So you did go through the emotions. You did process all of that.

But then when they pull you back in, especially with social media, I think it makes things 10 times harder they pull you back in and there's no getting away from it you have to do interviews about it you have to talk to people about it it's just it is so prevalent so it makes um like the very beginning parts of the relationship difficult yeah and i had never been paid it i guess it wasn't paying it as a bad guy the first few weeks but in a sense i was like i was like and i had never experienced anything like that so that was difficult like just being like well people are like saying I might suck or like you know my character and all this stuff I'd blocked all of these nasty words on my Instagram comments it was just not fun so these girls going through it I I fail for them yeah let me ask you this because when people who aren't affiliated with the show ask me what it's like you know they're watching it and it's dramatic and there's when you watch it back there's music and there's all these like awkward pauses and the interviews and there's so much pulled together to make the show what it is when I was living with the girls or in any of the drama to me like at that point some of it yes was a big deal but a lot of it

didn't feel as big as it is portrayed and so looking back people are like oh my god what just happened last night that was crazy and I'm like it really wasn't that crazy like you add in the music and the ITMs and all this extra noise that makes it seem so much larger than it actually is and did you guys experience that that aspect yes I mean it I just never I'm not like a huge huge person who reacts to like drama happening. I was like, hmm, they're having a conversation again. Shocker. They've been talking about the past three days.

Right. Whatever. I'm just going to go grab a cocktail. So, yeah, Dill and I, we would just like not really react when people were like, oh my gosh, we were just like, oh, wait, like over there. Is that happening? That's why we weren't on TV. And that is why, you know, we probably didn't get on a lot.

Yeah, you don't feed the beast. You don't add fuel to the flames and get wrapped up in it. I will say this. And even on The Bachelorette, But in Paradise, I definitely stirred the pot a little bit. Wait, in Paradise, you start the pot? Yeah. Give me an example.

Like, towards the end, like, when guys were, like, super nervous, they were exhausted. You could probably say. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, go ahead. Yeah, no, I would just, it would be, like, right before the Rose ceremony. And I would just, it was Matt, Matt Donald and, and Luke Stone. I'd just be sitting there, like, dude, you guys are so fucked. Like, who were you going to pick?

And then we, like, go back and forth on who they're, I'm like, yeah, you could do that but everyone expects this they're like okay so I'll do that I'm like dude you're just gonna go with what everyone wants you to do like that's so fucked up and that went on for that went on for probably like two or three hours and then yeah because you get bored

I wouldn't see some drama Dylan would make a good producer and totally I always say that no I think that's great Dylan because you guys it's the way your relationship works is similar to Asher and Kevin like Ashert's my best friend from the show

and the way that you guys move or move during Paradise is kind of like them. Like Ashtra would always say, we were boring TV because we had found each other. We knew what we had. And you just kind of sit back, eat your popcorn, and watch the rest of the drama unfold. What you went through with Paradise is you found each other. You have your person. You don't have to be victim of another bachelor or bachelorette season, which is great,

because you see what's happening on this current season. So now you guys are planning a wedding. Where are we in the wedding process? So we are in engagement party mode and we're really taking things slow when it comes to the wedding. We don't live together right now and we definitely want to be able to experience that before we, just for us, before we get married or anything, or at least just living in the same city and not living long distance right now. It's not too long, but we're definitely not in the same city right now. So for anyone who doesn't know, Hannah is currently living up in L.A., and then Dylan is closer to me in San Diego, correct?

Yeah. Yes, Mission Hills. So, you know, a couple hour drive. How often do you guys see each other? Every week. Every week. Like three or four days. Okay.

Out of a week, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's good. I mean, we probably see each other more often than not. Definitely. Honestly, you see each other more than Brian and I do. Yeah. Because I have to travel so much.

Yeah. Well, that's good. I'm getting a little salty over here that we haven't grabbed drinks together yet. I mean, Becca, I've messaged you a million times and I get no response. Okay, Dylan, you've messaged me once, one time asking if we could get drinks. And I leave funny comments on your Instagram. You never respond to anyone. I'm so bad with social media.

I'm terrible, so I'm sorry. But, well, I'll just get your numbers after this. Rachel, as you can tell, I love social media. So, I did my research for you guys coming on the show. Did you read my Twitter? Yeah. It's going to be in trouble. It's bad.

Well, that's why I was like, what's happening here? You know, you, on Twitter, you got a lot to say. So I want to make sure that that is reflected in the podcast. We got to talk about some topics. When you took a shower after each. So, can we just talk about it? Yeah. Maybe not what you tweet it about.

Okay, whatever. So you want me to start reading tweets? Do you want to, I live in a, in a censored household. Well, you need to, I don't. So. I mean, I'll comment on things that maybe I shouldn't publicly comment. on sometimes, which I think is fair, but also maybe the fact that I shouldn't comment on that means that I should comment on it.

Wait, so do you go to Hannah and then ask her like, hey, can I say this or can I write this or can I do this? So great point. So what she's referring to is that I didn't do that. I just tweeted it, put my phone down. About what? He tweeted something, put his phone down. Went in the shower.

And he went and took a long, nice, long, steamy shower, used conditioner probably three times and then he came out and he was like so i tweeted right before i went into the shower i was like uh oh and i checked it and uh yeah what tweet was it we need to know now it was just i i think it's just sometimes all common on things that maybe people don't like my comments on i think that's very rational freedom of speech you know who loves me read it reddit redid loves me Oh, God. He thinks it's hilarious to joke about them. Well, I'll give you an example.

When Tasha and JPJ broke up. I knew you're going to bring that. Well, I brought it up on the podcast. When they broke up, you wrote shocker and nothing else. Color me shocked. See, that's one of those situations. And I asked Tasha about it. What did you think about it?

What did she say? Well, I didn't like it because I am like big on, I'm like, oh, if you say, something more. You know, like, I am not big on starting a war on Twitter. I am very confrontational, so I'm like, if you want to say something, come say it to me, rather than just be subtle about it on Twitter, you know, like everybody knows, but you're not saying type thing. Tasha said it hurt her. Tatia said it hurt her. I think, yeah, she said that she was surprised because she's like, I thought we were all cool. She didn't know where it was coming from. Yeah. No, I think yeah yep very fair we've had this discussion a lot and sometimes we just got to like think before we speak and especially when it's

I'm a very opinionated person and if I have an opinion on something I'm going to let everybody know so when you remove the said tweets is it more so you're doing or because Hannah wants you to I have my tweets filtered through probably five or six people oh really so I personally never for some reason but in person he's not like lashing out or saying anything crazy. It's just like, I'll go on Twitter. I'm like, well, I mean, whatever. It doesn't come across. One, my sense of humor doesn't come across to a lot of people, especially through like words, like text. Yeah, well, it's hard through text.

But, no, I mean, I'm definitely opinionated. And some people like that and some people don't like that. Well, I'm opinionated too, like extremely. And I get it. Sometimes it's misunderstood. But I don't really tweet like that anymore. So I guess my question would be to you If you, for example, with the Tasha and J.P.J., if you walked past Tasia at a party and you just found out, would you be like, color me shocked, you and J.P.J. broke up.

I mean, I'd probably ask what happened, but I don't think I would be very like... In her face about it? Well, no, I mean, I don't think what I said was interfaced about it either. I think it'd be more interface if I was very specific about what I was talking about. But again, I think there's a lot of things. I think there's a lot of things that we know that maybe shouldn't be made like totally public information.

Agreed. And I'm sure you're privy to more information when it comes to their relationship and I understand that. But see, like, that's what I guess is the difference. I'm opinionated. But if I'm going to say it on Twitter or to the media

or something to you or to a friend, I'm going to say the same thing to you. Like I'm not going to be like, oh, how are you doing? I haven't seen her sense. Neither John Paul. But I think. they all know kind of my opinions on not just like that situation but like other situations

that also arose from I think I feel like we do talk about this a lot though and you know he likes stir the pot sometimes on Twitter but ultimately I think it's in the works and I feel like you're you know your baby steps well it sounds like you it sounds like you know now because you have a group of five people that you have to filter everything through like if it's gonna offend some people or come off across wrong it's good that you have the group to be like hey should I actually say this yeah you're cognizant of knowing that it could offend I'm definitely cognizant of it but I mean like I get terrible things sent to me every single day so but I mean it's kind of it and I'm not but you get it no oh no I get how it can be yeah like hurtful to someone or I get how

it can be perceived as like disrespectful but I also think that there are like aspects of it to not everybody this isn't specific to that situation but there are aspects to a lot of things that people just don't know and I think a big part that we like talk about is that I don't comment on things sorry to cut you off but I really wanted to put this in I don't comment on things that I don't have a reason to comment on okay but also I feel like before the show it didn't matter what you put out there you're like oh I have an opinion who cares I think now with you know a few more eyeballs on you it it does make it a thing when sometimes before the show when you're under a microscope yeah yeah sure or you get in a

Twitter war like I don't believe in Twitter wars I don't think I've gotten in a Twitter war okay that's great yeah I just don't believe in that which may come which may come to is a shock to a lot of people watch there's time there's definitely time there's definitely time I'm not good at Twitter so I'm not either I'm not either honestly Hannah I'm not either it's not my thing I can't do it um okay so I want to get back on track talking about the juicy wedding and engagement just because obviously people love love. They watch the show for a reason. I know, trust me, I know firsthand how annoying it is to ask, when's the day?

What are the wedding plans? Where is it going to be? I mean, Garrett and I have been engaged, I mean, a year and a half now and zero. We have nothing. And I'm like, trust me, people, the first time we start thinking about it, you will know. So the engagement party that's in the works is that something. you guys are doing up in L.A. or back in your hometowns? So it's going to be here in L.A. and it's a surprise. So somebody's throwing it for us, but all we know is the date and then to just like tell our friends and family to show up.

Yeah. Show up. Okay. If they can. So. Yeah. We have no idea where it is. Yeah. We don't even know exactly where it is, but we know it's around like here somewhere. But I'm excited. I think it'll be fun. That's fun. No, it sounds like fun. Yeah. And I love surprises. What are you, like ideally in your engagement party, what would it incorporate? What would you guys have? I think for me, I'm just, uniforms. Definitely. I don't know. I'm just kind of like, I'm excited for all of our friends and family to meet at the end of the day.

Like a lot of them haven't been able to even meet Dylan. A lot of my family, but, you know, cousins and things like that, they still haven't been able to meet him. So I think we're just more excited to like get everyone in one little area and have like a fun little party. Yeah. So. Hey, let me say. I have not had an engagement party yet. So whoever is throwing this, send it my way.

Perfect. No, we have missed our moment. But that, yeah, that sounds amazing. I can't wait to see photos. Well, have you, you guys know Chris and Crystal, because obviously at the wedding. Prior to their wedding, they had this beautiful engagement down near us in San Diego.

And it was gorgeous. And I didn't go. I just had the photo. So I'm excited to see yours. It'll be, I'm sure, lovely. Do you know what you're going to wear yet? No clue, but, you know, I feel like since it's so far away from, like, wedding and things like that, I'm thinking about more doing just, like, I will say, like, champagne-colored stuff instead of, like, super white right now.

Because I'm like, you know what, like this is more of a celebration, like, we're together and everybody meet and hang out. So I think I'm going to go, like, champagne-ish ivory tones, maybe. Or am I just switch it up and go, like, break pink. I don't know. We'll see. do it well I'm sure it'll be lovely whatever you decide are you inviting bachelor nation people to the wedding

uh to the wedding I mean it's kind of I'm kind of far out but I mean I'm sure there'll be some people who yeah who get invited to it because like some people get invited to the party but not necessarily the wedding I know how that goes so that's why I just went ahead and jump to the wedding

yeah no I mean there's definitely going to be some people from from bachelor nation that get invited to the wedding yeah I don't think it's going to be like a whole entire bachelor nation thing but definitely the people that are close and in our bubble and, you know, just that care about us and Texas and, you know, are supportive of us, then, yeah, definitely. Not a free for all? Yeah.

Okay. Good. Good for you guys. Nothing too crazy. Keep it small and intimate. Yeah, small. Definitely. Well, one question I wanted to ask you guys is because, obviously, you each went through

your respective seasons, through Paradise. We've seen several love stories come out of Paradise that didn't always last, but throughout all of Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. have you guys gotten any advice from other couples who have been through this that have helped you guys kind of pave your own road out of this or anyone that you've seen that you really admire that you take bits and pieces from their relationship? Kevin and Astrid talked to us at the wedding. Yeah, they like sat us down and talked to us for probably an hour at the wedding, which is really nice. And y'all, they are some like real, real life humans. Like, it was so refreshing talking to them.

just like, you know, they didn't care about all the extra stuff. They're just like talking about relationship and like the realness side of it. And I'm all about a real and raw conversation. So I don't know. I really feel like we were in a similar situation as they were. So I liked that. I liked them. They're a solid couple.

I don't know them all that way. Rachel knows. You know those are my best days. We're going on vacation in like three weeks together. Oh, no, wait, where? Yeah, those that, yeah, they're the realist. They just seem like they really care about people. Like, they're genuine happiness.

Like, I remember when all the drama was going on. at the wedding with Blake. Like Kevin sat him down and was like, dude, like your sanity is the number one thing. Like, and if this isn't good for you, just get out. Like, he didn't want to like bullshit him and be like, oh, this is so fun. Like, yeah, stick it out. If you're not happy, you're not happy. So they seem like a good couple, good head on their shoulders.

Before we let you guys go, we got to get your predictions for Paradise since you're the paradise experts. Becca and I have never been before. Thank goodness. But who do you think so far from this season is going to be. great in Paradise or even we'll go to Paradise. Yeah, go for it. Sarah C. McKenna. I'm just guessing. I don't know what happens. McKenna. McKenna will be amazing for Paradise, I think. I think she's like, she'll react and like, she's a cutie. What about Tammy? Tammy's, Tammy's, yeah. Oh, my gosh. I love

Tammy. Anytime she gets on my screen, I get really excited. She's like, she's, we talked about this. She's kind of like the Demi of the house, like the wild card, you know, says it like it is. Yep. I don't who the top girls are, so that's kind of tricky. If Sydney's not the winner, then totally see Sydney there. She's like, real, tells it how it is, whatever, so obviously

that would be fabulous. I feel like Sydney would be the sexy like Baywatch on the beach. Like all the guys have their eyes on her. Yeah. Kelsey. I know what guys are going to go. That's what I'm very any predictions for

guys, maybe from past. I know we haven't had a I'd love to see Dustin there. I think Dustin didn't get enough love. I'd love to see him there. I've met Dustin. He's fun. Yeah, he's cool guy. Very sweet.

Okay, well, that's about it for you guys. I'm glad that, you know, we got you to loosen up, spill some tea. I know how many times did Hannah tug you in this interview? She's definitely staring at me while I was talking. I will say. And then I've like tapped his leg, but he did good. I think you did good. Watching the two of you interact is actually really cute.

Like at one point, you guys high five. You guys have a good report. It's fun to watch you. Face to face, finally. Yes. Finally. We're very balanced. You can tell.

You can tell. Outspoken and Hannah's like she is very thoughtful. She'll keep you in line. We have a good time though. Dylan's way more thoughtful than anybody knows. So he's extremely selfless and thoughtful. So very lucky. That's so great.

We're so happy for you guys. Thank you so much for coming into the show for hanging out with us. We hope you guys come back. And we're really just excited to watch you guys and see what you have. coming up. Yay. I hope to meet you face to face sometime. Oh, you will, girl. This world is so small. Fabulous. Sounds good.

Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you. All right, guys, you know, we can't forget to do our new Cats and Rats of the Week, so here we go, Rach. All right. This is a quick and easy one. And I'm surprised at the answers I'm about to give. Now, mind you, this is just

based off this week's episode. Okay? Mm-hmm. The cat? It's Kelsey. She's This week. Sorry, I'm not judging her on anything else she did. I think things will take a turn, but I'm giving the cat to Kelsey. And everybody else is a rat, because I'm just sick of it. It's a house full of rats. I agree with the Kelsey. I also would like to say, I thought Sheehan killed it on the football field. She shined and she did not get nearly enough recognition. So I'm going to go with Sheehan. That's a good one. I like that. And then, yeah, I mean, rats, it's, I'm going to say, Alleya only because I don't think she should be here right now. Hey, fair. That's fair. But also Victoria, too, because, you know, it's tough.

Yeah. All right. Well, shall we play a game, Becca? We shall. We should. Let's have a little fun because I'm exhausted from talking about everything that's going on. We need to lighten things up. It's been a little bit heavy. Let's have a drama-free game. So, okay, this game is called sex move or football play. Now, you would think that being a broadcaster in professional football, I would know a thing or two about this, but I think I'm going to embarrass myself when it comes to this. So we're going to read off names, and Becca or I or both will have to guess if it's a sex move or a football play.

So you're welcome. This will help you with your football education and your sexual education. And maybe in the boudoir. Well, Rach, since you know much more about football than I do, I want to start with you to see if you know these ones. Okay. Okay. So first up, we have the crouching tiger. Football.

No, that one is a sex move. I almost was going to say that, but for some reason it sounded football. Okay. I get, you know, all of these are going to be a little on the fence. So the splitter. Football. No. This one is also.

a sex move. Dang it. I would have said sex move only because now I'm picturing some of this in my mind and okay.

All right. The Statue of Liberty. Football. Yep. Okay, because it sounds like a boring sex move. Very boring.

I'm like, what do you do? Just stick your hand up in there? Yeah. Okay. Total football play. The flea flicker. Football.

Yep. That one I know. You know that one fast. That was a good one. Okay. These names. Okay, is, okay, shredding the cheese. I'm going to say football because I hope that it's football.

No! That's so gross. I know. Well, that's why I'm reading it. What kind of sex move is shredding the cheese? That's disgusting. I don't want to Google these because I really don't want anything on my phone, but I'm just, what is shredding? That just sounds terrible.

That just sounds disgusting. That's gross. Okay. The coffin corner. Sex move. No, that one's football. I was going to say football. Dig it.

Football. Okay, propeller. Sex move. Mm-hmm. And last but not least, the spin-o-rama. Sex move? No, that one's football. Okay, yeah.

Maybe I'll Google that one later, just to see, because it's PG. I'm afraid to Google any of these at this point. Okay, now it's your term. All right. All right, first up, the waggle. The waggle. I'm going to say that's a football move. You are right. Okay, you're already off to a better side for me.

Hey, one for one. I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, but the Bumaruski? I'm going to, oh, you know, that could go either way because there could be a football player out there with the last name of Bumaruski, but I'm going to go on the fence and say this one's a sex move. Oh, close. Shoot. Dang it. You almost, I thought you're going to get it. Is that someone's last name?

I have no idea. I can't imagine a coach being like, go get that bumerouski. Yeah, and we're probably saying it wrong. We're probably saying it wrong. All right, the tighter doggy. I'm going to say that one's a football. Sex move.

That one's, well, I know the doggy, but the tighter. I'm just trying to picture these on the field. Okay. Dang, I'm catching up to you, Rach. The Captain Hook Oh geez Louise That just sounds dangerous in the boudoir So I'm going to say football

It's a sex move Oh my Lanta The Captain Hook What is the Captain Hook That sounds scary right This is like 50 shades of gray right now Hook hook hook Hook

Huck Roofie Oh Okay no that's not that's not on the list But I can't help myself Um, pooch punt. Total sex move. It's a football play.

It's a football play. What? What is the pooch punt? Oh my gosh. Now you get out there and you run that pooch punt and you run it fast and hard. I am never going to, I'm not going to watch the Super Bowl the same. I'm just saying. Can you imagine them being miced up and that's all you hear?

They'd have to bleep it out probably because the audience just, wouldn't understand. Yeah, mothers would be covering their children's ears, yes. Poach butt. Pooch butt. Okay, the next one is the helicopter. Sex, move?

Yes, yes. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Finally, I'm redeeming myself. Right? The ankle breaker. Anything in football. Yes. Okay.

That's football. Very good. You're on a roll. Last but not least, I've totally read this wrong in my head, I'll tell you what I was. But last but not least, naked bootleg. The naked bootleg.

I'm going to say sex. It's a football play. How is naked a football play? I don't know, but I first read it as naked booty instead of naked bootleg. And I was like, what? That's a football play? No. Go get that naked booty.

Okay, naked bootleg is football. So we sucked at this. I hope you have fun. you should play, this is something you should play at a Bachelorette party, so you're welcome. And you get an education either way, whether it's in football or it's in sex move. Please Google at your own risk. Or play during the Super Bowl. It's coming up. Yes. Or during the Super Bowl. Well, thank you guys so much for tuning in. We love every week diving into All Things Bachelor with you guys. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much for being here. But before we wrap up the show, I just want

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