Bachelor Happy Hour - Happily Ever After: Joan & Chock — Part 2

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re back for part two with our Golden couple, Joan and Chock! We kick off by diving right back into the lovebirds’ New York City move. Then, we get into all things Chock. From getting on the show to his perspective on the process, he tells all. And, of course, we explore all their future plans: the holidays, travel, and when we can expect those wedding bells to ring! Tune in to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics

on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD,

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Hey everyone, welcome back to Badger Happy Hour I'm Joe And I'm Serena And we are back with the lovely couple Joan and Chalk for Part 2 Welcome back guys Thanks for having us Absolutely

So we finished off our last episode By you guys letting us know That you're going to be coming to New York you're going to be seeing some places this weekend and then you're going to spend some time here over the holidays. Which areas of New York are you interested in? So I think we're looking on the west side,

but you know, we are kind of open. I don't think we're like the young crowd that would be over in Brooklyn, so I think we're to stay on the other side of the bridge. But we're actually staying on the east side this time. So we're going to explore that a little bit. And then I think I, like my love is the west side, but, you know, we're open.

We want to be able to walk to things. We want to be to walk out. He's from Kansas. he needs some city life in him and we want to be able to walk out of our place and be like in the you know the midst of chaos we like that and in our last episode we were talking about the finale and chock you seem to be pretty calm cool and collected and i want to how how old are you 61 and actually i want to go on record i am younger than joan so i'm a guy that likes actually older women Yeah.

I like that. Nine whole months. He's nine months old with me. I'm also 61, but I'm closer to 62 now. Nine months. I do have an older woman. And I'm like it. I do like it.

I do like. Do you think yourself at 30 years old would have been is calm with another guy potentially getting down on one knee? if I was, like, in second place. Not if you were in second, but just because the scenario, you seem to really just be very confident. And I think it was really clear that Joan truly loved you. But there still was another guy there. So you didn't know, like you, you, like,

you may have been 90% sure, but there was still 10% that it could be someone else. I do want to start this. My response back is saying, Guy is a fantastic person. The guy's got class. He has handled this so well. He and I talk every week.

I only have positive things to say about him. And he cared for Joe. He really did. That was true. He had strong feelings for it. So I feel for him. And I've got to be respectful. But also, he's just, he's a friend of mine.

And that's a tough thing. And, you know, you don't see that in normal world, but we've been able to maintain our friendship. We talk. He's just a good, solid person. And I support him 100%. My 30-year-old self, I've kind of been this way my whole life, and I don't get real excited when I do, you know, it's pretty rare. And I try to think through situations. And, you know, it's some people like that, other people don't. I don't really have a lot of emotions like some

people are very emotional. Jonathan, very emotional guy, just very lovable. But, you know, he's got some history, but he's got those emotions that he wears on his sleeve. And I just kind to keep everything in. I've been that way my whole life. And my father's tried to work with me on that. But, you know, we are who we are. But I was very happy with how it turned out. I can't tell you how graceful I'd be if I would have lost. And I say lost, but didn't get Joan. So again, guy deserves a lot of credit. He is a really solid person. How did you get on the show in the first place? My daughter. And what had happened there is I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you can self-apply or somebody can nominate you.

My daughter calls me and she says, Dad, I did something. I don't know if you're going to be happy. And I'm thinking she quit her job, you know, whatever happened. And her girlfriend, she lived with, was in a sorority in her senior year, nine of them moved out into a house. One of her girlfriends from that house called her and said, living in, I don't know what city,

but just said I saw a casting advertisement. Your dad would be perfect for this. So my daughter goes in and she applies like she's me. oh so she didn't nominate you she applied as you and so something's come up on that is there's a little story going around that i'm not as funny as my daughter thought i really was so uh but you're like the application and him are just not adding up something's off here and yeah that was my daughter actually yes so it's a good story i would have never have done this on my own no way no way and just wasn't something I would do, but hey, it happened. Things happen. And that's, you know, love just comes

in different ways, you know, and you could fall in love on a first date. You could know someone for 10 or 20 years. It's just different things happen, but I'm very happy. But my daughter, to answer that question, she's the one that got me going on this. And then the, I never thought that I'd get on the show. And I kept saying, why is the guy from Kansas? Why are they interested in this guy from Kansas? But I do think that the casting company did such a great job to bring 24 different personalities. that it was really unique. And that was a blessing for me is to get to know, you know, really 15, 16 of the guys because the first guys that left the first night, you just didn't have an opportunity.

RJ, nice guy was in the limo with me. But you just, you have a quick conversation and that's it. So I felt for those guys because they didn't have a chance to really let the fans see who they are and see their personality. With all those big personalities, Joan, do you remember Chalk's limo entrance? Oh, my God, perfectly. Yeah. He had chocolate noodle soup.

I mean, how can you ever forget chocolate noodle soup? And it was good. I do understand he didn't actually make it. But I made it afterwards, though, I did. He has been out. He's posted on a video. He does order to make it. But not only that, so that, like, he knew that I had done a video on TikTok that had kind of gone viral.

I know I had, like, three million views. So the fact that he, like, had taken the time to know that I did that and then to use that, like, to kind of get to know me or to, create some kind of rapport and he also knew all four of my kids names and um that just showed me that like he was really serious about this process so i remember his limit entrance perfectly although i have to say i remember them all really really well for some reason that night really sticks in my head very vividly have you made him your your chicken noodle soup yet we have not done it but yeah it's getting to be winter so that that's that's going to be on the menu soon i think you might do a cook off. I think that is really good. And I know mine is good. So, actually, we cook very well together.

We compliment each other. One will cook one night. The other one will do the dishes. We'll each do. She'll prepare the salad. I'll do the meat. So it's a lot of fun. And that's just part of being a couple. And then finding out what the other person likes. We're just a line. I'm kind of a big eater. And Joan's a nibbler. But we both like to drink wine. So that looks great. There you go. Joan, if you were to be the Bachelorette when you were 30 years old, how do you think you would have handled the process differently back then than you did today? Oh, gosh. I can't even imagine that in my mind. So first of all, I was really shy. I was like a math nerd, honestly, all through high school and even into college, I didn't like kind of come into my

own until my senior year of college. I was a computer science major. I was in a math minor. So I was a nerd. And I I didn't until, actually, my junior year in college, I joined a sorority, and that got me way cooler. So I can't imagine, even by the time I was in my 30s, although at that point I was married and had four kids, I can't imagine me having the confidence to do this. This takes a lot of confidence. You have to be able to, like the conversations are deep and the emotions are high, and it takes a level of maturity. I'm very impressed in, like, you guys, the way that you navigate this, because I found it very hard. Oh, it's hard. If I could say, too, is Joan handled this with so much class.

She did. And it's tough with people that you like and you want to respect them, letting them go. And I was very impressed. I never, and I lived this from day one to the last day. I never saw any rudeness, pettiness, anything at all. And it was just handled with so much class that very few people could do. and I think that's one of the reasons she was the Golden Bachelorette is they knew she would handle these situations

because there were really good guys on this show and it's it's tough. It's really tough. I could see in her eyes at the rose ceremonies. Yeah. Yeah, it's not easy letting people go, but you know, you got no choice. You have to.

Part of the journey. You can only leave with one. You can only leave with one. Have you guys? So obviously, you know, when after the engagement, the, you know, the question is, have you guys talked about marriage, which we'll get into, before we get into marriage, what are the holidays look like for you?

Oh, well, Maryland and Maryland. Maryland. Yeah. So, yeah. And with my kids living on the East Coast, it just works. So Thanksgiving and Christmas, we're going to do that. Right after Christmas, we go to New York City. In December, we're going to be in New York City.

Then we start doing some traveling. We've got four big trips coming up in 2000. So it's going to be a busy year. That's just what we know of right now. What are those trips? Most likely Africa. And we're going to get to France. And then we go to the Caribbean at the end of January.

And then we've got one other one that we're doing. Well, we're doing New York, obviously. So we're going to spend some time there. Yeah. And those are just the three that we like are already kind of planned. And so like, you know, we're lucky. That's the whole thing about like the golden season is that, you know, you have time and you have resources now.

So, you know, Chuck isn't retired, but he can leave his business that runs pretty well without him as long as he's just kind of some oversight. And I have taken a leave of absence, so I'm currently not working. And, like, we can now kind of concentrate on our relationship. And that's really important, I feel like in the beginning. So having, like, you know, great time, just the two of us in New York City for a while. But we do want to meet you guys for dinner. And, you know, be able to go on vacations. So, and finally be with our friends and being each other's homes.

I mean, you know, me being in Kansas is going to be like a vacation for me. I've never been there. I'm going to be like meeting his family and going to new places. So, you know, all this is still really, really fun and new. The fourth trip is Spain and she's going to go with some friends of mine, wives. Mm-hmm. Okay. Oh, wow.

That's fun. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back. to school week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a

problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemell Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcast Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? many of them are in fear of their political lives and that's been part of the challenge but we continue to say to them you were elected to defend your constituents to stand up for your constituents and there's life after congress and you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on

your time in the house of representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever make sure to listen to spolitics on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast hi my name is enya umanzor and i'm drew phillips and we run a podcast called emergency intercom if you're a crime junkie and you love crimes we're not the podcast for you But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Chuck, you have a big business. What are your employees think about you now? Do they look at you differently?

So the filming, when I left, And I was gone a week before seeing my mother. So when I got back, they go, can you go away? Where's the place is running well without you? And I've got a management team and they're doing great. I say a young man, but a 30-year-old gentleman that wants to take the business and run. And so, you know, it's what I've done. The other thing is I would drive Joan absolutely crazy if I was retired.

I need something to do. And that works well. So I like to get up. I get up early every morning. But no, it's going. well, I couldn't, you know, I couldn't ask for anything else. Have, so have you guys had the marriage discussion yet? Yeah, he asked me like every day.

Well, when are we getting married? Okay. When do you get married? I don't know. Come on, everybody's bothering me. I have a big thing about women that don't want to marry me. And I just, this is a good time for me to clarify this. Some of the heat that I've taken is the relationship that I have with Kathy.

Is some of the fans go, well, he's got commitment issues. I was with Kathy for nine years, and we got engaged two or three years into it. She was very, and I supported this. She was very adamant. She had kids in high school, or grade school. Actually, we met through high school or upper school. And she goes, we're going to get the kids out of school. We were going to get the kids out of school.

We didn't live together. And she goes, when that happens, we'll get married. And then she got sick. So, you know, a lot of people, there's a backstory to that. And I supported Kathy 100% on that. And her husband was very involved with raising the kids. And she goes, just those dynamics, we just don't need to do it. And I was a single father, my ex-wife, you know, lived in another state.

So it actually worked out very well. And we got to see each other a lot. So it's a little non-traditional. But I didn't want to say that. Trust me, I would have married her. And with Don, I said, when are we getting married? She's like, well, give you a little tired. He literally said that first day when we came into the room and he's like, so let's

get to know each other. And then the next question was, when are we getting married? I mean, certainly it's on the table. Like, we are going to get married. I'm just not like totally sure there's a part of me that like once all of this um like we've been really busy you know obviously during this we do a lot of press after you know you leave and um we'll probably have a bunch of press you know now for at least a few more weeks and I think I just want to be like us for a little while without having to plan something big or

having anything I just want to like live and be us and meet each other's friends and go out for dinner and take some vacations. But then I do want to get married and we've got to see what that looks like if we want to do an intimate wedding or if we want to do a big one or if we want to do a bachelor nation wedding. All of those look a little different. So I think we need to have our time kind of outside of bachelor nation bubble and, you know, get to be a couple for a little while before we start making these big plans.

We are going to get married to them. I'm guaranteed you. Yeah. It's like, I am marrying you. I mean, like I've had thoughts in my mind like, let's just go do it. But, you know. Well, the guys will make it special. The New York Courthouse is pretty nice.

I think that's the thing is making it special because it is very unique. But the other thing is we're in our 60s and there's really no rush. There's not a rush. So we'll navigate all that. The love is there and it's going to happen. Trust me. That's my prediction. I think you predict right.

We're excited for you guys. Chuck, what's one thing you wish the audience knew about you from watching this show that they may not have picked up during your time on the show. What I would say is looking back through the episodes is the relationships that I had with the other men. And for whatever reason, you know, they're filming so much is it really showed me very little interaction with the other guys. And Keith was, you know, he was loved by everyone.

I mean, he was always, he just had more energy. I'm a little bit more reserved. Guy was, you know, the guys in my room, Gary, very outgoing. But we had a lot of interactions that just didn't make it, film but that's between us that's the guys we know our relationships with each other yeah joan you you did such a wonderful wonderful job as is the bachelor at i mean you really did what advice would you give the next lead hmm well so i got advice command to show which i followed which was very helpful and then i kind of have my own and that is you have to go in being really open and vulnerable because

you have to set the stage. You have to show that this is what you have to do to make this work. You can't go in and have superficial conversations and, you know, fun. It's not all about being, you know, having fun. Fun times are important, but it's about having this important, you know, conversations to see that you align on, you know, values and that, you know, you see the next part of your life is in a similar way. You know, you have to look to the future to make sure it's going to work.

Otherwise, there's no reason to be here. personally i came in with this preconceived notion of how it was going to go and that was completely different i came in thinking that i was totally ready that this was going to be kind of an analytical process you know i was going to analyze each guy and our interactions and picture if i could live with them and it became way more emotional than i expected and it um you know with for a lot of different reasons one of them being that um you know i struggled a little bit with figuring out how to get through the whole john thing um i i didn't realize that i hadn't really mourned completely and i hadn't figured out how to get past that and that took a little bit of time and also like how hard it was

going to be to let the guys leave you know to send them home that was particularly difficult more than i expected it to be really hard so i think it like if i was going to give somebody advice you know just let it unfold um the way it's organically supposed to and don't come in with pre-scape you know this preconceived notions or how you think it's going to work based on having watched the show. Yeah, we did see a lot of your grieving process through this journey of your late husband. What did this process teach you about what it means to kind of date someone new after the loss of a spouse? If I can real quick, somebody that kind of experienced this as well, I anticipated this

if she was, if she, Joan, was really interested in someone because it's a breaking point where you have this history and you're going, I'm moving forward. So when Joan came in the one episode and she sat down with us and she goes, you know, I'm just struggling this. My mother's not feeling well. It's John. I knew where she was coming from. And it is. It's a point where you're not taking the memory away, but you're moving on. And whether it happened before the show or during the show, I was anticipating it because I've been through the same thing. And I think what I learned from it was that like I didn't actually have to move on you know in completely so I had this thought that for me to move on I would have to completely let go of John and I just didn't feel ready

to do that I don't think I would ever have been ready to do that and I finally was relieved of the that I that notion that like I had to do that like I was you know I met with the the psychiatrist in the show site psychiatrist who told me that you don't have to let go of somebody to love somebody else. He will always be part of your life. He will always be, you know, in your heart, and there's enough room in your heart for somebody else. And I just never had any therapy. So after John passed away, it was during COVID, and I looked for like a group that I could be part of. I didn't really just necessarily want to see a therapist. I wanted to see how other people were navigating life, like that were my age and had experienced this. And I couldn't find one at all. I found groups for

older adults, you know, people in their 80s and 90s who may, you know, weren't necessarily you know have you know as much life as i still have ahead of me and um so i never worked through this until i got on the show um and but then i i finally did so i in the journey was different than i would have thought it was going to be um but when i learned that i didn't have to leave john behind to and i could still love somebody else it was so freeing it was like such a cathartic moment that i could finally figure out how to work this journey yeah did you guys ever wonder what would have happened if you met in the real world and never went on the show? Do you think it could have worked? Absolutely. Yeah? I've said this earlier that if I was, let's say, in D.C. or Maryland

living or working there, if I would have met Joan, same result. I would have. Yeah, I mean, it would at the time, you know. But I don't think that never would happen. I mean, like, he has been from Maryland. I don't think our paths would ever cost. It can't ever in a million years, you know, figure out how that would have happened. So, like, this was meant to be. Like, we ended up on this journey together for a reason. Yeah. How is it watching back your now fiancé date all these other men? Jesus, Serena. Jesus. What? It's a fair question. It's not like he didn't watch the show, like we did. The way you said it in such a happy way. Hey, Chuck, also.

Sorry. Sorry. I should have raised that a little bit nicer. That's the $10,000 question, and it didn't bother me at all. But she did kiss seven guys. I think. I'm sorry. Do you read County? There was a post. I think your daughter said you kissed seven guys. Somebody was keeping track. Yeah. It's just it's the journey. And even without the show, we both dated before we went on the show. I mean, that was, and you do that. And no problem at all. The great thing of this is I know the guys. and good guys, you know, very good men. So, you know, there was some guys on there that I thought were, I mean, it was competition,

not between us, but I go, these are good people. These are really good men that I could, you know, I could see Joan or somebody else having a relationship, a future with. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school. on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both the meets. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them

are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents, and there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.

Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Have you, have either of you played matchmaker yet with your two respected seasons? She cannot help her saying. best time. He wants the world to be happy and in low. I do. Now that I am, I want everybody to be it. So before I came on the show, all of the women from the golden bachelor season were texting me saying,

you know, you know, I get your leftovers, tell me, you know, find somebody for me. So I went in there, like, kind of focused when as people were leaving, thinking of who I was going to set them up, and I have three of them going right now. One is not going to work, but two are still, are still, It's still happening, and I have two more that I'm going to do this week. Well, I think we saw a photo of Leslie and Jordan recently. Was that one of them? Can you give us a hint on maybe who the other ones are? I can't tell you who the other one is.

It's not far enough along that I would feel comfortable to it. Okay. Totally understand. And I will tell you, we're having an engagement party. Oh, that's exciting. And so we have a lot of bachelor people coming, and I can guarantee you that Jones going to be trying to set everyone up there. that is single. We've got a big party.

We're looking forward to it. It's going to be a lot of fun. Oh, that's awesome. That's so exciting. We both had family and friends coming from, I've got them from around the country that are coming in. And we're looking forward to it. It's going to be a lot of fun. Are either, do either of you have children that are single?

Oh, yes. So I have, both my daughters are married. My oldest son is engaged and my youngest son lives with his girlfriend. So I think mine are all taken. Okay. Chomp, would you recommend? any of your kids to go on Bachelor or Bachelorette? It was interesting because my son, very good-looking young man, he's only 23.

Okay, but I was I was 22 when I went on the show. Yeah. And not that that is anything wrong with that. I just don't know if he's ready. So there's been talked about it. And then with the casting company going, and it's the same thing with what she said to me is she goes, you know, this is serious. This is about finding love.

You know, if you're looking for fame, go do something else. You know, go do TikToks, whatever you want to do. So that's the question for him. My daughter, she's 25, I want to find her a man so bad, so bad. And she's a great person. She really just great. And she is so much fun. But she is probably the pickiest person I've ever met in my life.

Really? She'll have a date and I go, Taylor, what happened? Well, you know, he didn't put his fork down right or something like that. Just get my break. Just come on. Just, you know, enjoy the moment. Better than not picky enough, though. I think.

Oh, yeah. You're right about that. What I'd really like to see my daughter on is Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah. Yeah, that's the show. That's the show. You can vouch for that. Yeah, we can vouch for that one.

Chalk, out of all the men from your season, who would you be happiest to see become the next? next bachelor so this morning i was thinking about that and i will tell you and i'm not sidestepping your question with a non-answer but there's seven to eight guys i think that would do fabulous and each one of them has a different unique characteristic personality start with charles charles i mean the world loves he is the nicest guy i mean i think it'd be fun to watch jordan has an incredible personality that you didn't really get to see on on tv i mean the guy is sharp. He is witty. He is fun. Keith, the loving guy. You know, just, um, you've got Pascal that,

you know, that, that suave, you know, gentleman that he is. And so I can just go through him. I think Dan, and Dan is incredibly good looking. I mean, the TV didn't do him that much justice. I mean, it showed him, but he is a good looking man. And, um, he's got Jonathan, but I heard he's dating someone. Yeah, he said that he's seeing someone. And he was, he was a gentleman to, And it was, he was one of those guys. He was kind of like me. He was, he was interactive with the guys, but, you know, he was a little bit reserved, and I was the same way. But he was so thoughtful, and he did care for Joan, too.

But, I mean, what a great guy. And who else? There was one other one at see. Mark. Mark. Mark is America's sweetheart. And that is that guy, and I'll tell you a story on this, a couple of stories. When he walked into the Bachelor Mansion the first night, I was probably the only guy that recognized him because I had done some

research on, went up and introduced myself. He was such a gentleman, and he is a worker, doing dishes, cooking, doing everything else. He was on it. And a couple of times, I just said, man, you know, you are incredible. He is such a good man. Well, the day that, the night that he left, he came up and we were giving hugs. And he whispers in my ear, he goes, and this is my one commitment when we get married is he goes, you have to invite me to the wedding. And Mark said that. And it was so special. but all great guys and so can i pick one and i'm not again side step in it i think there'd be so many guys that would be so qualified for this part of it is you want the person at the right

point in their life you know with but then you want the fans to really like them it's important it's a you know it's a show and to become attached to them and each one of these guys are just so unique in their own way yeah say i'm not sure that there's going to be a hundred percent of them available i mean from what i see well if you keep meddling, Joan. I mean, we're trying to. We need a golden bachelor and you're setting everyone up. Well, I was trying to set a couple of people up.

One said that he already had a girlfriend. And then at Mantell All, Christopher came up to me and told me he has a girlfriend. Dr. Bob has a girlfriend. We've seen kind of out in the media, Mark has a girlfriend or is he dating somebody. Jonathan said on the show that he has a girlfriend. I mean, that's like five right there that are like, bark it. So these guys are good, big, great catches, and the world has seen it now. So I'm not sure how many are going to be available.

And the one that I left out was Gary. Oh, yeah. Great guy. And Greg. And Greg. Awesome. Smart. Woody, funny.

But it's just a, you know. I think Charles L would be a hoot, though. I think. So do I. That would be, that's my boat. I mean, that's a best of my own. And because he's just so unlike the rest of us. know, I mean, his innocence, but is, you know, he's so true to himself.

And he's just, I think it would be an absolute hoot to watch him. I keep seeing his TikToks with his daughter. Oh, my God. They're so fun. Yeah. It's Charles 2.0. Charles 2.0. Yes.

He told us he's eating really well and he's aging backwards. Yeah. It's changing the color of his hair. He goes, I'm 60, but I look 36, Joan. And he would give us daily. jokes is you know you didn't see this on camera but he funny he would give us daily jokes and sometimes they go for five minutes we're like where's the bunch like Charles all great guys um before we let you guys leave we're going to play a quick newly engaged game you ready yeah all right um so it's gonna

you know it's just just simple questions rapid fire uh make sure you don't point say a name just because audio, not visual. Okay, Joe, real quick, can I take a step back, though, because I would be remiss. I think Jack would be absolutely entertaining to watch. He's a cold investor. I don't know if he's the right guy, but oh, my gosh, he would be entertaining. And when we're going to like him because he's a great cook. Is he?

Okay. I can tell he's a good cook. Yeah. Oh, my God. He would be entertained. He's an old school Chicago cook, I could tell you. I'm sorry to interrupt you. I just wanted to throw that out.

No, no. No, no. Okay, got it. Got it. All right. Whose chicken noodle soup is better? Joan. Who's the better cook overall?

Joe. I was going to say talk, so I think I could go either way. Who's the better dancer? Neither one of them. I don't say Joan, but I don't know if that's right. I see him dance. We haven't actually, like, danced really. I don't think.

We're better to take dance lessons, though. Yeah, we were thinking about it. Well, now you guys have to dance at your engagement party. Oh, yeah. Okay, there you go. I'm going to have to have two glasses of wine before I do that. Who's the early bird? Chalk.

Yeah. Who's the planner between the two of you? Huh. I think we're pretty good. Yeah, we're both planners. Yeah. That's good. Who's more adventurous?

Chalk. Me. He's done so crazy stuff. Who's the better driver? we've never driven together we don't know we have been in a car together we've never been in a car together

oh my gosh yeah that would have been the same yeah yeah yeah when Serena and I got engaged at the end she when she left my hotel room she left me her number and said here's here's your fiance's a phone number

the first time he called me I was like who is this you know what's crazy too I was thinking about this the other day is I remember being at the airport texting Joe and feeling like, oh, like, am I texting him like too much? Like, should I like not texting so much? Like, how fast is he going to respond? Like, I don't know.

I was like, this is crazy. I'm engaged to you. Yeah. I know. Take a guess what my telephone stage name is in Jones' phone number. Oh, yeah. Oh, gosh. I don't know.

What is it? Kevin Cosner. Kevin Cosner. I like that. I like it. And you know why? Because Rob Lowe was already taken. My name is Joe's nickname is grocery store Joe

So I just had like a bunch of like vegetables Like a bunch of vegetable emojis Who's more forgetful We don't know Yeah we haven't gotten to that Probably me I'd say me Maybe say chocolate I don't know Who shops more

Joe He hates to shop and I love to shop when it comes to your kids who's the more chill parent I'm going to say me chalk I'm going to say chalk yeah I can see that who's who's the bedhog oh Chuck

I'd say me yeah he keeps him over to my side yeah well you guys thank you so much for taking the time we are so happy for the both of you enjoy your engagement party and everything you have coming. I mean, your trips sound incredible and we should definitely get dinner when you're in New York City. Yes, let us know or even if you want wrecks or anything. So I will tell

you, you know, this is my first podcast on the, you know, for anything with this show. And I really appreciate you guys. You have a great reputation. It's been a lot of fun. So, oh, thank you. Thank you so much. We're so excited to have you guys here. This has been a great season. We couldn't be more excited for the two of you. And to all our listeners, thank you guys so much for tuned in to Bachelor Happy Hour. We really appreciate it. We hope you enjoyed Joan's season as much as we did. And make sure you stay tuned for exclusive interviews every week. Yes, we have lots more fun episodes as we tee up for the holidays. And then before you know it, it's going to be grant season of The Bachelor. So be sure to subscribe to Bachelor Happy Hour. And thanks for listening.

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