Bachelor Happy Hour - Her Story: Anna, Renee & Jeanie

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” we’re getting to know a few women who might not have romantically connected with Gerry but still managed to steal America’s hearts.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier.

Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier. Complex problem solving. Takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic Representative of Texas. She's holding out the fork for her party in one of the most conservative states in the Union. I think that ultimately, who will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and has shown that they won't allow themselves.

to be punched and just say thank you. Like, they will punch back. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena.

And we are here with none other than Anna from the Golden Bachelor, Anna. Welcome to the podcast. How are you? Thank you. Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be here, Joe, Serena. I've watched you both from the beginning. And yeah, I have a celebrity crush here.

Oh, my gosh. Nice. Anna, so when we first see the cast gets released, all your gorgeous photos come out, Joe and I look through the cast, and we pick just based on, like, photos and bios who we think is going to end up with Gary, which is honestly so difficult.

I picked you, and I was so devastated when you went home night one. been happy. I couldn't believe it. The actual Serena picked me. I was like, no. I know what happened. I don't know what happened. I wish it didn't happen. That's for sure. Yeah. I don't know. It's a night one. I mean, listen, I went home night one as well. It's a tough. I know. I know that too. Yeah. It's a tough night. But yeah, I mean, yeah, let's let's get in. So how, where do you live? I live in Summit, New Jersey, and I'm about, let's see, 15 minutes from New York Airport, and about 35 minutes drive from Manhattan. So we're a metropolitan city. Oh, we're very close to you.

We're in Chelsea, Manhattan. Chelsea, New York. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's great. My daughter's right by you. She's on 22nd and 2nd. Nice.

Oh, 22nd and 7th. Yeah. Oh, not far from us. Don't give us any more. Don't give us her exact address. Don't put her address out. No, I will not give you the number. There's so many buildings that that means nothing.

Yeah, that is very true. How often do you come in? How often do you come into the city? You know, I was just there about three days ago. We went to see a small venue music show. And then I went to see my daughter and took her to Frankie's for dinner. You probably know Frankie's and daddies. so I love their

Focuchina It doesn't even I've never seen it anywhere else But I go in for the Focina So once every few weeks I go to see her You know it's amazing It's a pizzeria

So it's supposed to be a pizza But it's actually like Two flaky pitas One on top of the other And in the middle is regatta cheese lemon and prosciutto Oh that sounds amazing

Yeah Joe and I Just went on a pizza tour this past weekend. So we went to Lindistry, Emmitts on Grove, and Spamoni Gardens.

Lovely. A good pizza. We're in the right New York. Yeah. Exactly. But we'll have to try. We'll have to try Frankie's soon.

Frankie's daddy's the Focuchina. Don't look at the regular pizza go right to the middle. And I just came back from Italy and the pizza there was great too. Super thin like I like it. Thin and crispy. Where did you go in Italy?

We were just there as well. So I was everywhere, pretty much. I went for three weeks by myself, took the ferries and the buses and just kind of went in with the people. And I was on the island of Ishia for five days. Then Sorrento. And then from Sorrento, that was a great jumping off point to Capri. Then I went to Ravelo, stayed in Pulsatano for a few days, probably missing something.

Capri, Pousetano. Amalfi, Minori. I was on Minori for five days, which is the Amalfi Coast. That's amazing. That sounds like an incredible track. Do you speak Italian? I don't, but I speak Spanish and French. But I'm picking up Italian, since I have the other two romance languages, it shouldn't be too hard.

So I'm going to try to work on it. After all this Bachelor stuff is done, who knows when it's ever going to finish, we get little drips and drabs of, would you like to do this? Would you like to participate in that? And I say yes to everything. I'm so excited. I'm such a Bachelor nation fan. That's good. That's good. I love the positivity. So, yeah. Let's go. How did you get on the show?

So I had a relationship. My last relationship was three and a half years long and it ended five years ago. And when it ended, I was watching TV, sad and lonely at home, watching The Bachelor. And after The Bachelor, the commercial came up for the casting. And I was like, no, I might as well. I don't feel like going back on the dating apps. Let's see how this goes. So that was five years ago. Heard nothing.

So I just assumed, okay, well, I guess, you know, wasn't for me. And I would see the commercials now and then over the years, but I ignored it because I said I already did it once. I guess that's enough. And then about two months before I'm supposed to leave, they contact me. Am I single? Am I still single? Will I be interested?

Yes. Hell yes. It's so funny. rent because I always forget that they were well because COVID yeah they started casting and then COVID hit and then they picked it up after but because it was they were airing the application commercials for so long that I was like this just feels like it's never going to happen at this point like there's just no way this is going to happen and I'm so glad that it finally didn't it must have been so surreal getting the call five years later after you applied I couldn't believe it

and then come to find out from a few friends that they applied every year for the last five years. And I only applied at one time. So that was interesting. Like, where was mine? Did they stick it in a drawer, put it in a box? Like, where did that thing go? We got seen.

They saw it. That's all that matters. Well, they liked me. I wish Gary would have liked me. They surely did. Yeah, so let's talk about your first. So what was that interaction like out of the limo when you talk to Gary? Yeah.

you know, it's funny because I was so excited. I guess, you know, it's different for the bachelor or the Bachelorette than it would be for us contestants. For us, we're dying to meet him. He's like a celebrity at this point. You know, we love the way he looks and everybody's giving all these little bits of information about him for the two weeks after they present him. So you get really excited. So, you know, I knew he was handsome. I knew he seemed very kind and sweet and like a gentleman and the right age and fitness level, I was super excited. So when I got out of the limo, I was just full on happy, just like, oh, yeah, you know, I feel a vibe.

It was great, you know, but then I realized when I sat back and took a minute to think, I'm like, wait a minute, I think the vibe was only in my direction. Like I didn't feel like he was really feeling it for me if I'm going to be honest with myself, you know, and really look back at the moment. You know how we do when we have an exciting moment? in the minute you don't really realize what's happening, but when you step back and look at it, that's when I said, oh, I didn't even see it in his eyes.

Like he didn't look at me the way that men look at me on a first date. He kind of didn't have that look. And I was like, oh, no, I don't think he liked me. And I was also a later limo. I think I was like maybe second to the last limo. So I think he might have already seen some pretty amazing women because the women there were really spectacular. And he looked a bit overwhelmed, I will say.

The look in his eyes was not only not too interested in me, but also overwhelmed. So I think if you put all that together, I kind of got lost maybe. I mean, surprising. I don't usually get lost, but all right. Did you get to talk to Gary at all when you were in the mansion? I did. I definitely did. And it wasn't aired.

And I thought I had a good conversation. But like I said, I really didn't feel that he was feeling it for me. It's fine because I had a wonderful time. The women were fantastic. I had a great experience and I'll never forget. And I hope I influenced some of the viewers to, you know, get out there and try again. That was really my main purpose. If it didn't work with him, because what are the chances really, you know, one out of 22 women?

The chances are very slim that it would work out. So it was already in my mind, you know, be positive, enjoy the women, enjoy the experience, sure you present yourself so that the viewers can really get motivated about dating at our age and what could be you know what could be so uh i i feel like it was super positive i'm happy with the whole thing yeah well that's good what what is uh what's dating life look for you right now look like for you um yeah so i sort of got off of the apps got off of the uh the one that's on the internet that's not really an app um i got off of all of them especially when i got back i had to get off of them before I went. And then when I got back, the thought of putting them back on again

was like, I don't really want to do that. So something interesting has been happening. Like when I go to the farmer's market, when I go to supermarkets now, I think I'm a bit more open and, you know, taking my time, smiling when somebody smiles at me. And I have met a few people that way that have been interesting and I've had a few dates. But I stayed off the sites for a little while. Let's see what happens because I was a little bit, you know, coming back from that, a little bit sort of shell shop. So I needed a minute. I feel like you give off a very like warm, positive energy. I would not be surprised if you met someone, yeah, like at a supermarket or like in the street. Like I just feel like you, you would give off that like welcoming vibe that someone would

come up and talk to you. Thank you. I R.L. Right. In real life. Yeah. You also seem very active are you do gym pickleball like what are you doing i do everything really so i do a trail run almost every day three and a half miles lately it's been a little closer to four and a half miles so i do that either every day or every other day i love the weights so i have weight systems set up in my house i do a lot of weights probably three days a week um then i'll walk everywhere so if i'm in the city i don't go on the subway i don't take a cab no matter how far it is i walk where sensible shoes and um what else i mean really anything that comes up i'll do rock fine you know i swim with sharks you guys had a fun time with that when it first came out oh she goes cageless what does

that mean so i did dive cageless in uh borobora tahiti borah moraya it's an area called moraya and it was called shark gallery so i did go shark diving there so i'm scuba certified were you scared at all were you scared at all when you know Not at all, huh? No, you know what the funny thing is? I don't know if you can relate if you've ever been diving before, but when I put on my wetsuit,

somehow I feel like it's invincible. Like, a shark can't eat through this. I don't know what it is. It's something about that suit that makes you feel like, this is good. Like, I've got this. You take that soup.

That soup is your superpowers over there. You've got to be careful. And I bought my daughters with me, and I made them come down with me. I was like, come on, girls, it's fun. these are okay and so two of mine came down with me they were like 14 and 16 at the time so it was a while ago and then the little one was only nine I think and they put her in a separate area with a snorkel because you can't get certified till you're 10 so the other two girls got certified at 10 and she was one year away

but they let her snorkel and the sharks came up to where she was she was with a guy you know she was with people and other other people but the sharks came up so she got the experience as well. I have it in pictures. That is crazy. So Golden Bachelor is like the least adventurous thing you've ever done. The least adventurous. The least adventurous. I am up for it. I am ready. I am, I was like boot camp in the hotel. You know how you have that time before you get into the mansion? I was pumping the furniture over my head doing squats with the end tables. I'm like, I'm trying

to get game ready for the mansion. And I really was, you know, very pumped up. Not not nervous in that sense at all. I was nervous about the cameras. That's an animal and an activity that I have not encountered before. If it were anything else like Leslie just did the waterfall, no problem. I actually did that waterfall

in Costa Rica. Wouldn't bother me at all. The horseback riding, I rode for three years. Wouldn't bother me. I also ski, by the way. I'm going to Valdezsaire in France in March. So I'll do that for two weeks. Where do you get all this energy? Do you drink?

no i don't drink at all no alcohol i mean i'm not i'm not sober and i'm not anybody who ever had a drinking problem i just realized that once i got into my 40s sort of late 40s that i didn't metabolize the alcohol as much and then the next day i was a little groggy so the next day i want to work out i want to hit the gym i want to either go for a run or a hike or the weights and if i'm feeling groggy from even a glass of wine i'm not really feeling motivated so i kind of spouted in my late 40s, early 50s. So it's been a good 10 years. That seems like that. No, that seems like the trend.

Honestly, it makes sense. I've been doing just the reason I had just been doing a lot of research on that, but that's, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I know you're into health. I love that. I know a lot of the two of you. What are your thoughts? I do infrared sauna, Joe. You'll like that. I do it. I did a cold dip with him this

weekend. We did a sauna and a cold. I was like, this sucks. It was so cold. Yeah, it was actually pretty cold. She has no fat. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers

or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like go you, go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress, seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just, like, walk the other way.

Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network, beat.

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And you're a big fan of the show. You've watched it for years. Since, what is it, Trista and Ryan? Was that the first? Yes. That's the first Bachelor. Then that's it. And probably before that, but I don't remember that.

I just remember Tristan Ryan. It was so touching. That was the best, I think. You know what? Maybe because it was my first, but it was the best ever. So many people say that. I feel like it's like an iconic season. I have a question.

Your Bachelor of Paradise was the best. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I love you too falling in love. It was fantastic. Thank you. Thanks. It worked out for us pretty well. Yeah. Unbelievable. So happy. Well, Anna, thank you so much. If they do a golden bachelor in paradise, I'm voting for you to be there.

Definitely. Thank you so much for coming. I am not going on a beach and sitting in a bikini all day. Oh, no. If they do it in Paris, if they do it in Rome, I'm in. but not on a beach no you will dive with sharks cagedless but you won't go hang out on a beach with some other people no not at this age not at this age to be to have that that camera was unforgiving i'm sorry on this show that camera is i think he's a filter what why are we doing like barbred stric stan and the Kardashians you know they have a filter on that lens why is this high death for these poor ladies that's so sad no you're being way too hard on yourself

You guys looked so good. You really did. Of course they look great, but the camera is a tough one. Yeah. All right. Well, Anna, thank you again. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much.

Have a lovely rest of your day. Thank you. And your wedding pictures were fantastic. Oh, my gosh. Thank you. You look so beautiful, Serena. So beautiful. Yeah.

And you were very handsome, Joe. But I do. Renee, welcome to the podcast. and you are not alone because Anna is still here because she wanted to stick around to say hello to you. I want to see how beautiful Renee looks. So exciting to see her. We talk all this time on the phone,

but for some reason we don't FaceTime. I guess because we're at home in our whatever cash. But now I love seeing her dressed up. She's beautiful. Oh, it's so good to see you. I like, well, because we're always talking really early morning. We're early morning, you know, texters. but I can't wait to see you.

I can't wait to get together with you. And I just, you know, it's been such an honor to get to know you, Anna. You too. Absolutely. What a blessing this was. You're the kindest person and such a good heart. How's your dad? He's doing good.

I actually just got a Ronald Day hospital yesterday, but he's a rock star. He's amazing. He's doing great. Oh, my God. Thanks for asking. Renee and her dad had COVID, so they're troopers. 99. my gosh that was tough yeah yeah i got well got through it oh wow good happy he's doing doing well

i'm going to say goodbye and leave you with uh joan serena was fantastic i had a great time and so will you see you soon thanks girlfriend thanks ana thanks anna bye bye i love i love talking to anna oh she's great so where where do you live Well, I currently live in Middleton, Wisconsin. I've been in Chicago up until just recently. I moved to be closer to my father. So I could be around him and he turned 99 this year. Nice.

Wow. Yeah, I'm from Chicago. Are you from Chicago? I actually grew up in Wisconsin in a really small town called Dodgeville, but I've been in Chicago since I was in my 20s for a very long time, raised my family there. And it's strange to be back after all these years. but, you know, my dad's a pretty super, you know, he's just an amazing man and I wanted to spend more time with him.

Nice. What part of Chicago did you live? Well, I actually lived in the city when I was cheerleading for the Bears, of course, downtown in the Gold Coast area. Oh, that's right. I remember that from your profile. It's very cool. Yeah. And so eventually got married and lived in Highland Park, raised my kids there, and then ended up back in the city. years later it was just kind of really fun to get back down and I lived in Streeterville right like along the river in between Michigan Avenue and Navy Pier cool cool yeah I lived in I lived in Westtown and like the West Loop area for quite some time so small world there you go just two people from Chicago I guess so

yeah it's a great city yeah especially in the summer more so in the summer definitely definitely so What made you want to go on the Golden Bachelor? Well, actually, you know, a few years ago when Peter Webner became the Bachelor, I was called out to do the, you know, kind of like Barbara was a hundred beer with me. We were both Chicago-Burchelers. So it was really cool to find out that Peter. Yeah, both of us.

Barbara, Barb Peter's mom's sweet numbs was a cheerleader with you? Yes. We've known to each other since we're 20. No way. What a small world. We got ready for a poster suit. It was to me too. Yeah, this is cool. Okay.

This is so cool. I just talked to her today. We talk every day. I mean, it's crazy. Even we're grocery shopping. We're talking. We're always talking together. But yeah, so we have a lot of history together.

And I was really honored when they did the wedding renewal at the very first episode. I was one of the guest. So that was the first time I got the experience of, you know, not just watching the Bachelor Bachelor of at shows. all these years, but to be actually, you know, a participant. And so when the Golden Bachelor information came out, of course I'm like, was interested in, you know, signing up. And that was a few years ago.

And then we had COVID. Yeah. So, you know, and then it all of a sudden, it came back again. And I was like, you know, maybe I should push this a little bit because I really wanted to do it before. And I was in the middle of moving to a new apartment in Wisconsin. And a lot was going on. I'm so happy that I followed through.

It was just an amazing experience. Yeah. Okay, so let's get into a little bit, night one. What's running through your head is you're in the limo, everything, yeah. Okay, I've cheered in front of 60,000 people, okay, and, you know, performed my whole life dance since I was age four. I've never been that nervous in my entire life. And I have to do a little cheer, you know, and I was like, So nervous.

I couldn't believe how nervous I was and excited, really, really excited at the same time. So it was a lot to overcome when you jump out of there that you're not going to like just, you know. Yeah, it was really exciting, you know, it was really exciting. And you came out of the limo wearing your honey bears, honey barrage suit? Actually, it was my, yeah, our warm up suit that we would practice in before we put on our little uniforms. And it was an original uniform, so, and the pom-poms as well. And so I knew that Gary was a Chicago Bears fan and sports fan. So I just felt like, hey, why not the Motta made an original honey bear from, you know, back in the 80s?

So I love that. I wanted to go there and just steer him on, cheer us on. Do you have daughters by any chance? I wish. No, I have two sons. So my mom was a Argos cheerleader and Argos is the football. team in Toronto where I'm from and I think both my sister and I have worn her like her like warm up gear her tracksuits like for every Halloween because I'm like this is so cool. This is the best

Halloween costume ever because I'm a cheerleader and I have the original gear for it. Well I have two granddaughters. So there you go. They will appreciate it. Yeah. Did you chair for the 85 beers? I did not share in the 85 beers. That was quite the year. I was, um, that was, um, on 78, 79, and 80 actually wrote a book about it, like four years ago called Missing from the Sidelines, talking about 1985, being our last year was that, you know, we won the Super Bowl and the honeybears were gone, and that was because, you know, Papa Bear Hellas wanted dancing girls with his daughter, Virginia, you know, she wasn't so hot on us. And we had a contract that went through 1985. So that was it. And that's why, if you ever, um,

look up the curse of the honey bears is the bears have never won a Super Bowl since we were fired so it's called the curse of the honey bears so in the book i wrote my last chapter was chapter 13 you know so it was um it was a great experience and like barbara and i met and um she was on in 1978 with me before she became miss illinois and so yeah it's really fun kind of going back and we had a reunion and that's how we kind of reconnected as friends. Pete's mom was Miss Illinois. Yeah.

Why don't we know any of this? It's actually, Barbara's sitting with one of my friends, Mary Kaye, who is a Honeybeardt too, that lives in California. They're having coffee right now. Wow. I said, don't call me in the middle of my podcast. Hey, she could call. She could jump on and chat too.

We can have both of you do a full Honeybears reunion on a happy hour. Oh my God, they all three of us. That would be fun. Are you able to, are you able to, Are you able to travel a lot? Do you travel? Do you head out to California? You ever go out there? Oh, yes. I mean, I love going out to California. And I can't wait to, like, now travel to meet the other, you know, the Golden Bachelorettes. We, we have a huge text chain. We've been back and forth texting each other since we all came home. You know, like, you know, it's really been, we've gotten really close. And it's so similar to the sisterhood that we have, like, with the Chicago Bear cheerleaders. I don't know. We just felt, even though night one, We were there for a whole week. You know, people don't realize that we were there for a week filming before we even stepped out of the limo.

And even though we didn't get to see each other, you know, the night that we got in the limo was the first time we had glimpses of each other. So it was really exciting and just, I think you just feel this really as a bond. It's a weird, you know, connection that we all kind of went through different things. But they were all there, you know, searching for love. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. Who, what girls are you, would you say you're the closest with? Well, Anna, of course, Anna and I, because I guess we both were like now night one. And, you know, I, you know, was really happy to finally hear from her and Patty, of course, Patty James, been talking, well, Teresa.

And let's see who I've been talking to Edith, you know, Peggy, you know, just get out, you know, we're just all kind of emailing each other and texting. and how are you and just checking in on each other. Susan, you know, Susan, safe. You know, all of them are pretty close. Oh, yeah, we were close. What do you think, what do you think went wrong night one, if anything, went wrong? You know, I think it went so fast. I felt like I was in a dream.

First of all, you're just like you're walking into this beautiful mansion. And instead of like going up. stairs where I didn't really know where I had a dress somewhere. I didn't know where exactly it was, but I could have found it, but I was still like, oh, gosh, look at this, look at that. And every, you know, Patty and I were walking, Patty James and I were, you know, in the same limo. And we were walking around and all of a sudden Aunt Shippy comes in.

And then they're going to take pictures. So I kept like all night kind of second guessing myself about should I go change. I think a track suit got a lot of, a lot of people commented on it. They're like going, probably the only one ever in a roll ceremony in a track suit. I really wanted to put my dress on. I just didn't know when and where to do it. And I kept going, well, maybe you won't remember me if I put that dress on.

But I can tell you right now, everyone remembers who I am because I wore that track suit. It's kind of like stood out and a lot of women kind of related to it. But no one really understood what I was doing in that track suit because, you know, my conversation with Gary was, you know, it was just the cheer. And then it didn't, no one really got to see you like, oh, I was a former Chicago Bears cheerleader. He was a fan. So I think the whole night went by and people were getting chosen to talk or like they were getting there, you know, to meet him. And I think the thing, everything just went so fast and all of said and it's really getting late. And I hadn't, you know, had a chance to talk to Gary. That was really just kind of

sinking in like probably feeling like oh my gosh it's getting really late i haven't even talked to him a lot of you know there was a few other women and then all of a sudden it was you're starting you know when you're filming all night long it's hard you know my spirit was kind of going down and you know we finally did get to talk but it was really really late and um you know you I felt like at that point um it was the end of the night and you know I don't know I felt I wish we had had more time and you could always go would have should or could have I would like to go back and just not be I think I was a little bit more worrying about this stupid dress like otherwise it's changed or not than just really enjoying the moment and being there and you know meeting the ladies and stuff there was just

a lot going through my head because I was there to meet to make Gary and I was really excited because is he's from the Midwest and he's an Iowa Hawkeye fan. My father played football for the Wisconsin Badgers. So I have been a Wisconsin badger fan and Iowa and, you know, Wisconsin have been arrivals. So there was a lot in common, but I think it's just, it's hard. You know, you have very little time to make an impression. So I think that's really important. It's like that first impression is just, you know, go have fun, enjoy it.

Don't worry about what's happening around you. but it's hard because it meant a lot to me and you know we all gave up a lot to be out there and I don't regret it for a second I wish I could relive it and redo it but you know it was really everyone was super nice it was really devastating to go home I wasn't I never thought I was going to go home I didn't think that was a possibility so that was really rough I was really really sad about that um and you know a lot of people stepped up to the plate my father and friends i had sick at home and you know everyone's like we're going you know we've got you so i was like i didn't want to disappoint i had a lot of people watch parties like probably 17 that was like

oh boy yeah yeah it's not going home night one is yeah it's such a letdown but yeah it sucks I mean, there's no way around it. It does. It does suck. What's dating life been like for you now? Are you out there? Are you dating at all? You know, since I came home from the show, we all, obviously, I wasn't even dating

before because I was in the middle of moving and packing. And I just didn't, you know, really, and then I really haven't gone back on any dating sets. But I feel more excited about dating now. I feel more confident after being on the show that, hey, if I can put myself on national on TV in my 60s and you know look for love I can I can do it here too and be more confident and you know I feel um you know everyone it's a hard thing to do you know when you're getting up into your you know your age is getting higher and higher but it just goes to show you if you watch

the show there's a lot of people out there still looking for love and it doesn't mean my father got remarried at 85 and my mother best away so there you go yeah yeah amazing. Do you think if if there was something that you could have did differently night one what would that be? I think I would have dropped my palms and held his hands and just you know taken a little bit breather moment to yeah you know calm down and and then I would have like changed into my dress the minute I walked into that mansion but I was so overwhelmed with everything happening and um it is it is so overwhelming like night one there's so much happening there's so much going on you're just into the cameras you're meeting him for the first time you're meeting all these women

so I can totally understand how you could have just kind of felt a little deer in a headlights because I know I felt that way well and my dress too was it was very pretty but it was very you know sophisticated it was I mean I was like okay is my dress gonna look you know I'm you know I was kind of like, I'd just stay in this. You overthrack soon. You know, I was like, I just kept, yeah, over overthinking. Honestly, by two in the morning, I guarantee you every other woman was jealous that you were wearing a track suit sneakers and they had to stay in their chest and heels all night. I know.

Well, I was wearing my white boots. I was wearing, I was actually white high boots. Oh, yes, you were. You were. Yeah. But in between, I had my ugly slippers, so that was awesome. So I was taking them in, you know, on and off and, you know, but yeah, the girls were getting a little cold and grabbing blankets and they're like, well, you're lucky you have that out. You're comfortable. I go, but yeah, would you look awesome? You know, they're like, well, maybe you should go up and change. And I'm like, at what point am I going to go up and change?

I feel like, maybe I'll miss not talking to Gary. I was so like, oh, it's just, you know, I wish, like, I had my producer. I'm like, get upstairs, you know, but they're like all over the place, you know, trying to take care. of everybody. Night one's a big night. It is. It is. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school politics? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the... psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.

I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to choose an adapted strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like go you go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress, seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just, like, walk the other way. Avoidance is easier.

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Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But you never know. Maybe you'll get another shot before we let you go. Did Barbara Weber, what did she say to you when she saw you on TV and you went home? Did you give you any? Oh, yeah. You should have put your dress on.

Is that what she said? Yeah. You should put your dress on. Did she give you any advice going on to the show? Oh, she just basically told me, you know, we talked a lot about it. And she said, you know, Renee, just be yourself. You know, just be yourself. And, you know, they'll fall in love with you and have fun and enjoy it.

And, you know, but basically when she did find out that I was in my tracks, I did all night, she kind of like, you know, let me have it. Wow. Okay, well, Renee, thank you so much for coming on, Badger Happy Hour. We really appreciate you taking the time. I'm so honored to meet the two of you. you. Thank you. Thank you. It was really nice chatting with you and have a lovely rest of your day. It was so great meeting you. You too. It's so nice to meet you both.

Hey, Jeannie. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. How you doing? I'm doing well today. How about yourself? Oh, we're doing? I'm doing pretty good. How are you doing, Serena? I'm doing great. Joe, how are you doing? I'm doing good. Jeannie, where do you live? Where are you right now? I am in Estal Springs, Tennessee, about an hour and a half outside of Nashville. Okay. Okay. It looks very, it looks, looks loved. I see you, you got the Christmas tree going already. Yeah. When do you usually put up the Christmas tree? What time, uh, the time of the year? Usually after Thanksgiving, but I wanted to put it up for you all. Oh, that's, that is way too nice. I'm so excited. We have, so I'm from Canada and our Thanksgiving is early October.

So I'm used to like decorating around this time, but because American Thanksgiving hasn't happened yet. weight egg. So right now, yeah, we have, we have two, two Thanksgivings. Okay. So how, let's start off, how did you get on the Golden Bachelor? What made you want to go on? I'm sorry, said that again. What made you, how did you get on the Golden Bachelor? So I'm a bit of a rule follower. And I waited until I turned 65 because that was the rules. And about four days later, it was Valentine's Day and I had no date so I grabbed that laptop

and I just started working and two days later I got a phone call Wow and it happened very fast Have you ever been Have you ever been married? Do you have kids?

I have been married and I do have two kids I have a son who is also married and has two eight-month-old grandbabies so my first grandbabies. Oh wow. and I have a daughter so and what did your kids think about you going on the show

when I first told them they were a bit in shock it was like what did you say excuse me but they were very supportive and very happy that I went about during my journey yeah that's good that's good okay so you get there night one what's going on in your head yeah just kind of explain like the limo and just just where you were mentally when i got there at the mansion night one and i opened the door and i saw gary obviously i was very excited and i was also excited about being at the mansion so it was kind of a a double head it was oh i'm going to meet gary the infamous bachelor and i'm also at the mansion and i have watched series after series after series.

So it was a little bit surreal walking up and seeing the mansion in person. Yeah. Do you have a favorite season that you've watched? Oh, it has to be your season on Bachelor in Paradise. Really? Really? Really?

Wow. I love that. I love that. Who's your favorite person from that season? Joe is baiting to say him right now. No, no. I'm joking. But yeah, no, I'm joking.

Go ahead, Serena. I was going to say, so you've watched for years. Do you have like a male Rushmore of Bachelor Nation people that you love? Not including us. Like do you have a favorite? Not including you. Oh, boy. You're going to put me on the spot right now.

Yeah, that's a tough question, Serena. I mean, sure. That's a very tough question. Yeah, Mount Rushmore of, I don't know, like your favorites. Can I tell you first how I started. started watching. I love that. Absolutely.

So I'm talking to my mom and we were pretty close. We talk a lot. And she started talking about all these different people and all these love triangles. And I'm thinking, not a cousin, not an aunt, not an uncle. I don't know who these people are. So finally, I asked her, and mom, who are we talking about? And she goes, oh, it's the bachelor. And so and so is dating so and so.

that's how I started watching The Bachelor. And it's been sort of a way for me to talk with her on Tuesday mornings, but it has become much more than that to me because now I'm actually just as hooked as she is. Yeah. And I would say I'm going to go with somebody current. Right now I like baby Jess. And I know she doesn't like baby, but I like Jess. There's just something about her that I like.

She just is endearing. She's very sweet. Do you have a favorite Bachelor, Bachelorette, or Bachelor in Paradise to watch? I would say, can I go with the host? I like Jesse. Sure. You can go with the host. We love Jesse too.

So what was that? What was that like meeting Jesse in person? Did you have a chance to talk to him at all? I did. I was actually one of the ladies who chose top funk. and he asked us about the bunk bed situation and I had told him I said that was a choice because I'm in the master bedroom

and there's all these twin beds and then there's a top bunk and there were three other beds and I didn't want to get stuck below and the chances of me beating the other girls out was slim to none so I went with the top bunk and Jesse surprised me because when he asked who had top bunk

I raised my hand he goes genie and I'm like he knows me So it was exciting. Oh, that's fun. That's fun. What was your conversation with Gary like in the house? Like, did you feel a spark or connection at all with him? I did.

I, um, Gary had this way of making everyone feel special. And everyone, I think, felt that spark when they talked to him. Typical lead. Yeah. It is a trait of a good. Bachelor, Bachelorette. A lot of people will say about their lead, they were able to make everyone feel like the only person in the room.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, could we hear more about that? Just like your connection with him and how that was? So my connection with Gary was a little short-lived. I wasn't on the series that long. I left after episode two.

But when I was there, I really had an aha moment. And that aha moment for me was there's great guys out there. And I think I got into the routine of going out with my friends and just doing my thing and not really looking or keeping my heart open. And after meeting Gary, he gave me a lot of hope. I know we all are saying hope and optimism, but it's true. I think that we just set back in our ways.

And this series gave us an opportunity to sort of open up to possibilities. Yeah, I think I think that's good. Are you dating now? Have you dated since the show? I have not been dating since the show. I've gotten some DMs and some people who have tried to contact me, but I'm a bit old-fashioned. And if I meet somebody, I want to meet them organically. I want to meet them in person.

And so these guys got to step it up and learn the six degrees of separation. There's a way to meet me. Just don't do it through taps. Just show up at your house. No, let's not go that far. You mean like out at a bar? Or something, yeah.

Get set up. Okay, gotcha. So more, you like an in-person, organic meeting. Well, maybe not organic because you went on a reality TV show, but an in-person meeting. Yes. And then what are you looking for in a partner right now? I'm looking for someone who likes to have fun,

someone who is accepting of others. That is so important to me that they're kind-hearted and that they want to sort of give it themselves. I do some things for charities, a couple different charities. And I find that very fulfilling. And I want somebody to share that with. Are you retired or do you still work?

I am retired. That's why I have time to do philanthropic things. Nice. What did you do? I do two things. I am actually, I have the really great position of walking dogs. I go to the animal charler and I'll go out there three to four times a week and I get my dogs out and we go for walks. And it is the best thing.

You get all these dogs that just are loving on you and having fun. And I just love it. And my second thing that I do is actually through my sorority. And for 62 years, we have had a Christmas village in Nashville, which is an arts and craft show. People come from all over the country to be vendors in it. And we've given close to $14 million back to charities that help the hearing-impaired, hearing-impaired schools, a brain trauma unit at Vanderbilt.

and an arts and craft school in the Gatlinburg Mountain. So could it be any more esoteric than that? That's amazing. Oh, yeah, that is amazing. Good for you. Do you go out, do you ever go out to Nashville? Do you go out there often? I do.

I do. About once month in Nashville, I will do a meetup group for an art crawl. And then I also do other things. And when I go out in Nashville, I tend to get recognized. And Estelle, I think, and Estle is just what we call it for Estelle Springs. I think down here I get a little more of the giggles, but nobody says anything. But when I'm in Nashville, it's kind of cool. I get recognized a little bit, not overly, but enough.

That's awesome. I'm sure that's fun to go out and have people be like, oh, my gosh. You know, you're on the Golden Bachelor. Maybe that's how you'll meet. So you'll meet some guys that way. You never know. And it's kind of cool because my. golden rule is that if they recognize me i will not do a selfie for them they have to be in the

picture with me because they have to prove that they actually met me it's not just a picture on their phone and so they're all they're they're they seem to be excited and flored um to do that and i kind of like it it's kind of so fun that's fun that's great um are you watching the rest of this season have you kept up with the golden bachelor what are your thoughts are on well all my friends are on there. And so we actually got along very well, all the ladies in the house. And I think that that is fabulous because it's, you know, it shows that, you know, we don't always have to have drama in our life to have fun and to be even involved with the same guy. Although granted, I know it gets a little harder the longer you go, but I have been watching

them and I've been rooting for them and I've seen some of my favorites go and I see some of my favorites still there and I'm excited to see who Gary actually picks. Who are you rooting for, Trisa or Leslie?

Okay, so Leslie and I did our makeup together because she forgot her makeup mirror and I happened to have one. So we were makeup pals but I have said since day one that I thought he would go with Teresa.

I don't know why, but it's on, go back to B-Role. It's on there. I'm talking about, you know, they ask me who he thinks, and he says, Teresa. So I could be, you got 50-50 chance on that now, but. Guess we'll have to tune in to find out. Are you going to watch the finale? I am. I am.

I'm looking forward to it. So what is next for Jeannie then? What's coming up in your future in your life? Iceland. Iceland. I'm going to see the Northern Lights. Oh, that's awesome. I am so excited.

They're supposed to be fantastic in 2024. So one of my girlfriends and I are doing a girl trip and we're going to look at the northern lights. Oh, that's amazing. One of my best friends went into that, and he said it was absolutely incredible and just so magical. You're going to have the best time. Oh, yeah.

I'm looking forward to it. Well, Jeannie, thank you so much for coming on Bachelor Happy Hour. I really appreciate you taking the time, and it was lovely getting to know you. It was lovely getting to know you. One more thing. My mama said to tell you that you are her cutest couple ever, and she loves your makeup commercial.

Wow. Thank you. Your mom is my favorite. Tell her I said that. Tell her we say thank you. That is so nice. And thank you to all our listeners for tuning in to Happy Hour every week. We really appreciate it.

And make sure you stay tuned for more episodes. This week, we have the finale. of The Golden Bachelor, the episode everyone has been waiting for, and we have a new episode of Bachelor in Paradise as well. And then we will have some very exciting episodes of Bachelor Happy Hour for you guys as well. So be sure to subscribe. Stay tuned. Thank you.

Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. It's nice meeting you all. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you.

When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials easier. Complex problem solving. It takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I see. sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic representative of Texas. She's holding out the fork for her party in one of the most conservative states in the union. I think that ultimately, who will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and has shown that they won't allow themselves to be punched and just say thank you. Like, they will punch back. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.