Bachelor Happy Hour - Her Story: Peggy & Natascha

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena dive into the stories of Golden gals Peggy and Natascha. We hear all about their time on “The Golden Bachelor,” the friendships they’ve made, how the show has changed their lives for the better, and so much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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network hi everyone welcome back to another episode of bachelor happy hour i'm serena and i'm joe and we are here with another her story episode we have exclusive interviews with some of the golden gals that you haven't gotten the chance to know but you will today and we are starting off with Peggy, who we didn't see much of, but we're excited to talk to. Let's get into it. Peggy, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. How are you? I'm great and so nice to be here.

And I just want to say that I truly adore you both, Joe and Serena, as a couple. And the way you got together on Bachelor in Paradise, I just loved it. Now I have to watch it again that episode because once you meet the people, it's nice to just watch it all play out again. Oh my gosh. Do it. Thank you so much, Peggy. That's so nice. I don't think we've, we've never watched back our season. We were talking about this recently if we would ever like watch it back. I think eventually we've all, we've watched. We watched back, I think like the engagement ones. Yeah, I think I'm good. I think I'm good. We lived it. Yes, right. So Peggy, where do you live? Where are you in the world? I am in East

Haven, Connecticut. It's a shoreline town. It's beautiful here. And it's 10 minutes out of New Haven. I'm sure that you've heard of Yale University. And we have a great city. And we have the best pizza in the world. New Haven. I was going to say, okay, so I mean, I've heard of Yale, but I don't really care about Yale. You know, I care more about the pizza. So what is, and I know it's a very heavy debate, but what is your feeling? favorite new haven pizza it is a big debate and mine is modern pizza and it has been and always will be okay so that's kind of what i've been hearing now is um it's a modern right and that's how it's spelled no just modern modern pizza okay um but who's been around the longest sallies sallies is yes sallies um is the longest i think pepies is right behind them. But here's a documentary about how the pizza came to New Haven, you know, from the ancestors in Italy.

And a very good friend of mine wrote the documentary. And it's really, it's really great. So it's a lot of history behind it. Wow. That's so interesting. I'm going to get out of the shower today. And Joe's going to be watching it for sure. I'll have to go.

I'll have to go. I'll have to take the train to New Haven. even if I do that. Okay, so let's talk about how did you get on the Golden Bachelor? Well, it's a story, and I'd like to say that I had a part in it. I sent a video in the spring of 2018. Okay. Showing myself, and at the time I was 64,

and saying that it would be so great to have a Bachelor show for older people, people and that circumstances bring us to being alone at this age and it's very difficult for us to meet people and find love and so I sent this video in at the end of the video I said and just like fine wine I get better with age and so I sent the video in I don't know if anyone ever really saw it but I'd like to think in my mind that maybe I put that little influence out there because in 2019, they advertised it during, you know, one of the Bachelor shows, and I've been watching for 21 years. So I applied right away.

And then, of course, COVID hit, and it was gone. And then when it came back in 21, it was, again, for the young people. So we joked about it. We said, well, they'll never have it for us old people because they're probably afraid we're going to die of COVID. So anyway, and then it just continued. So I applied again in 22 when they started advertising again. Didn't hear anything.

So I applied in February of 23. And then May I saw that there was a name for it, the Golden Bachelor. So I had gone to a wedding, and I was so frustrated because I went to the wedding by myself and I looked gorgeous I must say because it was a formal wedding and I said that's it I am applying one more time and I did and four days later I got the call so it has been a long journey to get to the bachelor but I'm I'm so glad that I did yeah that with that beginning you're not you're not the first woman we've had on this that applied back in like 2018 And then COVID really stopped that.

I mean, for our listeners, I'm assuming it's going to be much easier from here on out because the show wasn't in existence. Yeah, well, it was a new show. This is the first time it's ever happened. So, you know, there was, I'm sure they had a ton of people applying. They had to be really, really thorough with casting. And then they've been, you know, people have been applying for like four years. I literally, I've said it on this podcast before. I was like, this show is never going to happen.

Like, they have been casting for this show for. years and years like they were casting for the show before I went on the bachelor after I went on the bachelor still no golden bachelor and then it came to existence and thank gosh it did because it's really stolen the hearts of the nation hasn't it really has and I'm so thrilled that I was a part of this like we said we made history and yeah I was very pleased to be a part of this what do your family and friends think about all of it well I don't have immediate family They've passed on, and I don't have children. So I didn't have that blessing.

But anyway, my cousins didn't know because they knew that I had applied, but they didn't know that I was accepted because we had to keep it secret. And only my best friends knew. If I made it to hometown, my best friends were the ones that would be here. And they were so, so excited for me because they've been with me. 35 to 40 years and yeah these best friends are like my family so they were so excited and you know what they said was when I was packing they said just have a good time if you fall in love that's a plus to the whole thing but we're just so excited for you that you're going to experience

this and just enjoy it so yeah that's amazing that's great advice you know if you're you fall in love that's a that's a plus yeah yeah so when looking back looking back at night one in stepping out of that limo what were you what was going on um in your head and in meeting gary for the first time i was so excited in the hotel room i really was because seeing him i'm good morning in america i thought that he was so handsome but down to earth and i'm very nice um a gentleman So I was so excited, but I was so nervous. And I just wanted to make sure words came out of my mouth. And that was what I was most nervous about because I haven't dated in five years.

So even just making a presence in front of a handsome man who is so nice, kind of, you know, put a little fear in me. And then when the door opened up the limo and I saw the way. but cobblestones that are uneven and I had four inch heels on that I hadn't worn in five years. And I really got more nervous. So at that point, I just wanted to get up to Gary and there's all these bright lights in your face. And I just wanted to get up there without falling on my face. So by the time I breached Gary, I was so nervous. I couldn't even talk. And he took a hold my hands. He really made me feel comfortable. And we started a conversation. And I felt so much better at that point. Do you think there was a connection between you to that first night?

I think, you know what? Yes. I think there was a connection as far as, I can't say if he had that connection with me i liked what i saw what was standing in front of me and obviously i mean some people can have an instant love attraction that doesn't happen for me um i was attracted to him but i need to get to know the person and and so that would have to follow yeah what were your what were your thoughts on the other women in the house when you first got there oh so there was already a limo arrived before mine. So as soon as we walked in, the women that were already there were so welcoming. Right then, the excitement that I had, it was just overwhelming because everybody was like jumped up off their seat and came to greet, and they did it for the next one after

me. And that started the bonding right away, because as soon as I sat down, started talking with a couple of women and that just continued the whole night i mean we we just had so much time to do that and we really connected with each other and really bonded with each other and it was so wonderful it really was yeah that's great which of the women um do you kind of still chat with so natasha and i are in contact she's in new york so she's not that far um and anna she's in New Jersey. So we are actually planning to meet in the city in a couple of weeks to Oh, that's great. Yes, I love the city in Christmas time. So that's our plan. Renée may join us. Jeannie was trying to, but there aren't any flights available from Nashville. So whoever wants

to come, that's the plan. We just want to get together and enjoy the city. What do you think you guys we go we go out to a bar to a restaurant we live in new york just for a little context right that's right well first we have to do fifth avenue um st patrick's cathedral at fayette schwartz i don't think is there anymore but um maybe have a cocktail at the plaza hotel nice do central park there's a lot to do and see. Oh, yeah. You're going to be busy. You have a whole day. Yes, go to where the tree is and the ice ring. Then, of course, get to happy hour. There's actually, I just saw there's a bar that's the most decorated bar. We're going. We're going this week, I think, with our friend Natasha. We wanted to go together. All three of us wanted to go

last year. We never made it. There's a few. There are like five Christmas bars in New York. The main one is Rolf. Is Rolfs. That's it. That's it. That's it. I just saw it. And it's decorated all year around.

Like, it's decorated for Christmas all year, but obviously Christmas is its most popular time. Is it hard to get in there when we get in? So if you're going to go, you should go like when it opens. Yeah. I think it's difficult. Yeah. There's always a line. There's always a line.

So if it opens, I'm not sure what time, but if it opens at like 4.30, I would go like 4.15. That's good to know. yeah but that's on the list and then um we'll figure out a dinner place anna knows some really nice restaurants in the city so yeah it should be a really fun time i just take the train in and i'll probably take the train back home no matter how late it is so nice that's so exciting christmas in the city is so fun looking looking back looking back on your journey on the show and i know it didn't last too long but you did you did get that first um you did get the rose the first night um do you have any regrets is there anything you wish you would have been different um

well first of all i never have regrets about anything in my life um but in hindsight yes you know this whole experience is so new if i was in it again i know the changes i would make regrets i don't have regrets but i would make changes um i think I think I would be more vulnerable and open up a little bit more. I'm pretty private person, so it takes me a little bit to open up about my life or, you know, things in my life. So the date that I had with Gary on the Bronco tailgating, I know that I really should have opened up because that date was very special to him because that's how he started with his wife Tony he told me they used to go tailgating when they were teenagers because they didn't have a lot of money and surprisingly enough

the love of my life who passed away that was our favorite date so when that happened I think it just shut me down and I didn't share that with it. of him. But yes, we had a Jeep and we drove to the water side and we had a nice bottle of wine, a loaf of crusty bread and cheese. And that will always be my favorite date. But I haven't replicated that with anyone. And it's been 22 years since Joe passed. And it's good that you should and I should have said this to Gary it's good to keep memories alive but move on and make new memories and and it was good that he did that and but yeah so changes I would make because that's something I would tell someone if we you know fell in love and got involved and

and I don't always open up right away like that. That's the only change I would too. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend. boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro all combined.

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Yeah. I think that's, you know, it's very overwhelming going on the show and meeting someone and, you know, it's a short time period. it so fast so opening it up that quickly can feel so intimidating but i feel like it's a good lesson to take away of just you know being able to connect with people like that because you keep thinking oh i'll tell him this next time yeah but no i realize like that you know the next time may not happen because you don't have that much time to begin with with each other and then yeah then you lose that next time by not opening up so yeah what are your thoughts on gary and teresa and the fact that they are getting married were you shocked by that i am so excited for them i actually reached out to teresa to congratulate her and um she was

so funny this was yesterday and so she didn't answer for like an hour and a half and she apologized she says i'm so sorry i've been so busy um i'm sorry it took me so long to answer i said are you kidding i said some of my friends don't answer me until the next day and so um but she really appreciated what i said to her and you know i told her that they looked so happy they look so in love and it's like a dream come true and they just look so good together and i was so excited for her and for gary and so she said when i get home can i call you and i said listen you have enough to do right now i said don't worry about me we'll catch up at some point and so anyway yeah they do look so in love they really do they really do and it just seems like a fantasy it just like this really happened and they're so

in love and yeah it shows that this can work well it does yeah yeah well yeah well peggy before before we let you go what is what are you looking for in a man Oh, so I want someone who is, well, first of all, honest. I've had a lot of dishonest in my past relationships, someone who's kind, fun, sense of humor. You know, I just adventure. I want someone that wants to travel with me. I love traveling. And, yeah, that's the best.

Someone who loves to cook with me. I think that's so romantic. I love cooking and just open a bottle of wine. we cook together um i love that so nice i like that too well peggy thank you so much for taking some time out of your day and coming on happy hour we really uh we really appreciate it and thank you yeah thank you this was wonderful thank you for having me of course of course natasha welcome to happy hour how are you i am amazing and so what both of you oh thank you welcome back we had you on one time before after the woman's health

all and it just wasn't enough. So we had to bring you back to chat a little bit more. Yay, I'm here for it. Bring the questions on. All right. Let's go. Where I think we know this already, but you are, you're on the East Coast, correct? I live in Harlem, New York City.

Okay. Nice. A lot of, a lot of East Coast girls from your season and then a couple in L.A. Or in California. Mm-hmm. And let's get into, what do you do for living? I know I'm pretty sure we might have asked you this ready, but let's get back into it. I am a pro-aging coach.

So I teach women who are entering midlife or in midlife and or beyond to embrace and embody this second season of life. So they can live a vivacious, exciting, and limitless second season. oftentimes women come into this stage of life and they start thinking they're old and the average age of women in this country is 80. So how can you think you're old at 40? You've got 40 more years to live and on and on. Like if you're 50, you've got 30 more. And we can do a lot in this stage of life because we're connected. We can have relationships and we're able to make our dreams come true because we have connections to do so. Do you get that a lot? Do you get a lot of women that are in their early 40s that come to you?

I have women that are in their, I would say, late, mid to late 30s that really want to know a lot about this stage of life so they can be prepared for it because most women are not prepared for this stage of life. So I have a lot of them asking me questions about this stage of life. They're not necessarily my clients, but I get a lot of questions. Got it. And then what does it look like? So if someone comes on as a client with you, what does that process working together look like? It looks like us meeting about twice a month. I give them a, we figure out a coaching plan.

And that's our roadmap to achieving anywhere from one to three. I want to say outcomes and not goals. The goals are takes us to the outcomes that they want to have. And so let's just say someone say, I lost my purpose. I don't really feel like I know who I am anymore. I want to get back into life and feeling full about life. I just don't feel excited about the things I used to feel excited about. And I would go, okay.

And then we would meet and we would talk about what they may have always wanted to do, but they put on the back burner because they were a wife, they were a mother, they were a career woman, or all the things that come with, you know, the early stage of life. And then we set up a plan where we set goals in place

whereby this date you'll visit five different things you wanted to do, whether it's ice skating, paint, or take singing lessons. Yeah. You know, stuff like that. Then we will talk about what they discovered. And also, maybe they want to build a new network.

They may have moved to another state or city and they don't know anyone. And so we talk about how they can network. So it really is setting them up to when because most people don't know how to start over. And this is a stage of life where you basically reinvent yourself. Well, doing this for a profession when you were in the mansion with the other women, Did you have any conversations? Did you guys ever touch on on this topic at all? We touched on there was, you know, Peggy, who is so lovely.

And Peggy was sharing her. You're meeting her out in New York pretty soon, aren't you? Yes. I know. We had a young podcast. I know all about it. So Peggy was saying she's a cancer survivor. And I said, no, Peggy, your cancer thrives.

And she was like, oh, my goodness, Natasha. So she was so like, you are so right. And language is key in this stage of life also because we have these words like old and, you know, retired and washed up. And nobody wants to be old. Nobody wants to be washed up. And we've forgotten about in this stage of life, we're not in the media, the advertisements, commercials, movies, we're just not really seen a lot. That's why the Golden Bachelor was so awesome

because people got a chance to see that women in this stage of life between the ages of 60 and 75, that we're still vibrant, we're vivacious, we're interesting, we're fun, we're silly, we play, we do all the things. And so languaging, and I was speaking, even at another time with April, we were talking about just relanguaging how we perceive or look at things, right?

So you're not getting old. You're aging and excellence, right? Just because you're 50 doesn't mean you can't start something new. Age is just a number. It's not a limitation. It's like the glass half full theory, essentially. Right, right.

And the glass is always full, even if it doesn't have a liquid in it. It has air in it and it's full of air. Wow. See, wow. There you go. That's a professional speaking right there. That's a good way to look at it. What did you do before you became a pro aging coach?

Well, that is a loaded question, but I'll for you. Yes. Okay. I was actually a personal trainer, a fitness professional. I have over 20 certifications in the health and wellness. And before that, I was a dancer. I graduated from the famed school of performing arts. So I'm a trained dancer, and I danced here in New York City, and I did African dance for 15 years.

I trained at Albanyali. I trained to dance. Oh, wow. Yeah, so I have some friends that went to Ely. Mm-hmm. So my history starts when I was a toddler with my mom who had a yoga practice, and I was her yoga partner in the studio called our living room floor nice that's actually yeah what do you are you doing are you dancing or doing anything now like what what do you do as far as fitness in my

living room i cut the rug in my living room there we go but i'm not really dancing professionally now my focus really is i love the walk in the park i like to exercise and And at this stage of the game, to be quite honest with you, my body is really talking to me from all the years of dancing, right? So I do kind of low impacts activity. Yeah. My mom was a professional dancer and she also was like, I'm paying for it now. Like, I am paying for whipping my head back and forth, for kicking my leg too high.

She's like, I am, she doesn't have any regrets, but she's like, I'm feeling it in my bod. And you want to maintain your figure so you can't work out as hard as you, like, I can't work out as hard as I used to. However, I have found low impact exercises that support me. And it really is very helpful to me. I do a lot of walking, especially you know New York is a walking town. Yeah. And Pilates, and I have a trainer. I train with my trainer. once a week and we do functional training and stuff like that. So, you know, it's, it's, it's, uh, you know, it, it, it, it, it, your body is talking to you. So my body talks to me and I'm listening.

I'll tell you that much. I'm not trying to push it to the limits. Yeah. I respect you. Well, I, I honestly, I got to get, I got to start doing more Pilates because I, I believe Pilates is really, really, really. good for you but let's let's cut to the show when you look back on your entire time on the show what's a memory that really sticks out to you the memory that really sticks out to me

is uh the night of laughter there was a night in our room i was in the room with peggy genie and ask him. So that's April, Susan. The full packed room. Yeah, it was a lot of big personalities. Oh, yes. We got along like peanut butter and jelly.

We got along so well. It was so wonderful. And one night, they, I mean, they were cracking up. They were laughing for hours. I mean, it just seems like for like two to three hours. And it was not that. gut-busting laughter, and that is so fulfilling to me.

I was so happy. I mean, I was knocked out because that was the day we did the shooting out with the clothes and stuff like that for the book cover and all of that, the romance novel. And I got to tell you that Peggy came to me, she said, Natasha, I'm so sorry. We were laughing, keeping you up. I was like, girl, please, if I had to stay in the room with a bunch of women doing something, laughing is one of them because that beats arguing, fussing, crying over anything. And that sticks out most to me.

I like that. I like that too. Yeah, that's good. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with a. young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or

not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined. Conservative podcasts can have a major political impact, but the Myceles Brothers, three siblings with a serious media strategy, are building an alternative to that. On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, I see. sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up, why audience interaction is the key to political influence

and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale, one download at a time. We should be focusing on the issues that actually occupy a lot of the mental space in Americans' minds but are filled with conspiracies, and we should fill it with the truth and solutions. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and IHeart Podcasts, where we dive into the stories that

shape us on the page and off each week i'm joined by authors celebs book talk stars and more for conversations that will make you laugh cry and add way too many books to your tbr pile listen to bookmarked by reese's book club on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts apple books is the official audio book and ebook home for rees's book club visit apple dot co forward slash reese apple books to find out more I think my dad always has a good perspective on that. Like if people are laughing, even if they're being loud or annoying, whatever. He's like, laughter's great.

Like, they're happy. They're having fun. Like, that's always a positive thing to be around. If there is another season of the Golden Bachelor, what advice would you give women who are going on the show for the first time? I would say to the women who are going on the show. for the first time to be open. Don't be so serious. Be lighthearted, have fun, have no expectations in terms of like we have a lot of times

we formulate things in our head, how we wanted to be, have no expectations in that aspect and be open to meeting people and having fun. For me, I feel like we were transported back to a younger side of our lives, right? So for me, it was like I was transported back to being in my early teens, my early 20s, late teens, where I got to meet people. I was open-minded. It was fun. There was no judgment. We allowed people to be who they were.

I feel like in the space of like, you know, people are people. People be people in. And we just, you know, kind of like allowed them because there was no real investment there. It was like, this is in my house. I'm here to have funds. Like I'm on a vacation or a sleepaway camp. So you kind of like let things roll off your back. Be open.

Be willing to have fun. Be willing to try new things. Be willing to share. You know, your life experience. experience, your stories with people. So many women shared their experiences. And your story, you know, I come from a generation where our parents were very secretive. So we have a level of secrecy to us.

So just be willing to share your story. You'll find out that you may share something very similar to someone in the house. I heard stories that were very much aligned to my life. You know, children, problem children. Your children, they do things that get on your nerves and, you know, whatever, misbehaving, or you have, you get to share your stories and even health stories or experience you may have had in other relationships. It's, you're not in a vacuum.

And when you share these stories, it also brings us. together because we see we have a lot in common yeah i feel like that's what a lot of people love about reality tv is seeing themselves on their screen and being able to say like i went through that and you know now i'm watching this person share their story and connecting with them that way like when people are vulnerable it's so powerful absolutely absolutely being on the show and now seeing gary ending up with trisa um thoughts on that? Did you see it coming? Like, shocked? Um, I, I got to tell you, I really thought he would have picked Ellen. I was shocked when

Ellen went home. I thought, I thought Ellen, in my personal opinion, I thought Ellen was really great for him. in just my way. I could be a little biased because Ellen is from New York. But, you know, I don't know. But I, I know, the last, when it came down to Leslie and Teresa,

I really didn't know which way it was going to go. Yeah. It was so, I had no clue. It could have went either way. It really was so close. To me, it was very neck and neck. You know, they each had their own set of values and pros, you know, that they brought to Gary. And, you know, one of the things I said early on when I left the show is that it's his journey.

He gets to choose and pick from whoever he wants to. So this is his journey. He gets to feel it out. And you can see as as Gary went through this journey, he really, he, I feel like when it came down to the last four, he was really beginning to hone into what I really want is. What I really, what I'm really looking for is what I'm choosing for. And I believe what I think it was Krista that told him, look for the women you can't live without. So that, I believe, landed with him. Yeah, that really resonated at time.

And I really feel like he began to really hone into that. And I believe the fantasy suites, because there's a lot of intimacy and privacy. There are things shared and said that we're not privy to that kind of tilted, tilted him towards Teresa. and kudos for her. I think it's a great match. They have a very similar story. I just thinking back and watching the show, she was really committed.

And I also feel Leslie was also. They both were committed to really leaving with a partner. I really feel like the rest of us, we wanted a partner, but we were really saying, like, is this guy a match for me? You know, let me. You know, is he a match for me first before I can get really in there?

I'm open, but I've got to see if there's, you know, alignment. So Natasha, today, what are you looking for in a man? I am looking for a man who is fun and who is emotionally available. He's connected with his emotional, emotions. this man should be willing to grow, always willing to do something to improve himself. I call myself a life learner because I'm always learning something or exploring something to learn about. And I would say I would love that man to be healthy. I would love him to be athletic.

and really someone who I could talk to who's available. Like I really mean, when I say emotionally available, I really mean emotionally available. And I find that a lot of men are not emotionally available because a lot of them don't tune in, don't tap into their emotions. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There you go. I like that.

I like all that. I like that too. Okay, before we let you go, we do have to ask, do people stop you on the streets to hear about your thoughts on the chairs for the row ceremony? Because I personally think there should be chairs. That got a lot of attention when you said that I'm- My chair earrings in for you. Oh, yeah, we saw your chair earrings at a woman to all. You had those in.

No, those were great. But look, those row ceremonies are long. You're wearing heels. Hurt your feet. Hurt your back. I would be into chairs for myself. I can't imagine how you ladies felt. I will tell you, just to answer the question,

people are in my DMs about those chairs. They're in my DMs big time. They hit me up about my DMs and my DMs about the chairs. I have friends that call me and ask me about the chairs. you know, and in New York, because it's such a big town, there's so many people, like, I'm on their train and they'll be staring at me, but they won't say, they won't say anything, they won't say anything. But when, when I do run into people that I know, they definitely ask me about the chairs, they praise me for saying that. And I do feel that beyond the heels and standing, I do feel it's important for people to really get that at 60, 70, and above. We just cannot stand for hours, whether it's in heels or flats.

It's just, we're just not built like that any longer, right? And we just had a whole conversation about the body changing, right? and it's it's a lot of it's a lot of wear and tear on us and I feel that to make it even for everybody you know there's like all the all the producers and the cameraman all the men I think all the women know but all the men should put on like maybe a three inch heel and then stand for 30 minutes yeah I think you're honest I think that's fair I think you're right about that. And then we would get a clue. You know what I'm saying? Not saying that you need to stand for an hour. Just stand in them heels for a half an hour. Yeah. Right about that. They should make that a

group date on The Bachelorette. They should make all the guys wear heels and go do like normal activities that women have to do in heels. That would be so entertaining. I'm actually surprised I haven't done that yet. That would be a great date. Eventually they don't think about it. But now Right. Yeah, the producer Natasha is here. Natasha, thank you so much

for coming on Happy Hour and taking the time. You're welcome. You're welcome. I appreciate you having me. I'm so happy to be here. And I just love

the Bachelor Happy Hour, the Bachelor Nation. I want to just say thank you so much to everyone who was on the crew, the producer, producers, the ladies I met, the women of the Golden Bachelor, they were amazing and the whole

crew and the producers were awesome. I mean, they, I felt safe. And that's important from me, someone who's coming from New York City, feel safe in an environment that, you know, I'm unfamiliar with. And I just want you all and the world to know that this organization treated me exceptionally well. Wow, that's good to hear. And that's a perfect time for me to also thank our listeners for tuning in every week. We really appreciate you guys. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you.

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