Bachelor Happy Hour - His Story: Jordan & Michael

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

Today on “Happy Hour,” we are back with our iconic His Story series with the men of “The Golden Bachelorette”! We’re kicking off the first of three episodes with Jordan and Michael! The two make their ”Bachelor Happy Hour,” debut and they are giving us all the tea. Jordan gets into his experience with Joan and what’s next for him, and he addresses some dating rumors with a certain Golden lady. Then, Michael tells us all about his health updates, his thoughts on the finale, and the tea on the finale after-party! Are we seeing any Golden romances budding? Will we be seeing these men on a certain beach anytime soon? Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was diagnosed with cancer on Friday and cancer free the next Friday. No chemo, no radiation, none of that. On a recent episode of Culture Raises Us podcast, I sat down with Warren Campbell, Grammy-winning producer, pastor, and music executive to talk about the beats, the business, and the legacy behind some of the biggest names in gospel, R&B, and hip-hop. Professionally, I started at Deadwell Records. From Mary Mary to Jennifer Hudson, we get into the soul of the music and the purpose that drives it. Listen to Culture raises us on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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you want to hear more stories from the guys that were on Joan's season of the Golden Bachelorette. Well, you're in luck because we are here with a mini-series. called his story. We did this with the women from the Golden Bachelor. We're going to have a bunch of guys on, just talk to them about their experience on the show, what they got going on now. I know there's been rumors that some men from Jones season are potentially dating some

women from Gary's season. So we'll get all into that. And we hope you guys enjoy. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Okay, we are here with Jordan from Jones season of the Golden Bachelor at Jordan. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. well thanks for having me glad to be here glad to be i can't believe this is your first time here considering you made it to hometowns and we haven't had the chance to chat with you yet yes well that's um that's why i'm glad we finally did it let's let's get to it all right so oh yeah me too because all season i was i was watching you i'm like not all season like literally since when the head shots got released yeah i was like i know this i know this right so i'm

going back and forth i'm like i don't like i feel like he may have worked at the Merck but then I'm like really really good with faces and then I'm like weird that he couldn't like place it so then I'm like but maybe I'm he probably just works out at East Bank Club and I've seen him there and then when it was your hometown I saw your brother and I was like okay and then so then I called I called up my cousin Louis and I was like hey Lou do you remember he's like yeah he's on the golden he's on the golden bachelor golden bachelor whatever it is I was like oh so yeah I can't believe that didn't come up earlier I know. So, Jordan, you used to work, you used to work in the Euro dollars, right?

Yeah. So I was in the Euros for a long time. And then, you know, I worked with your cousins, you know, for 15 years. And actually, Lou actually worked for my brother, which was a crazy. I know those. It was his first boss. It was his first boss was my brother, which was also an interesting story to begin with. But you mentioned it when the, when the cast came out, you're like, I think I know this guy. And I actually messaged you on Instagram. I'm like, you know, we. Definitely across paths because not just that, I go to parlor and I'd see my girls with my girls. We saw you at parlor and my girls were in love with you, obviously. They had to go run up and sit hi. I didn't run up to say hi to you, but my girls did. And then we saw you again at the basement one night. So you're like, hey, have seen me, but you've definitely seen me around town.

That's so funny. Oh, my gosh. Chicago's a small city. It's a small city. Yeah, I always forget that. I think it's big, but it really isn't that. You know, if you're downtown, especially, it's not that big. Do you remember when I was working for Louis?

Do you remember that? I don't remember you working for. Did you also work for PACs, too? No, I traded in the, so I traded in the NASDAQ pit for, for four years. But I clerked for, I tracked Louis's trades. In the Euros. In the Euros when I was, so basically like 17, I went down in the summer. What's in the Euros?

It was like Euro dollars? Euro dollar futures. Yeah, Euro dollar futures. And I probably moved because the Euro's got pretty thin up there with traders. I went down to the NASDAQ and spruce. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Small world.

Anyways. I'm glad that we placed it though. Because for so long. I was going to figure it out. I don't know. I just thought it was like, oh, you must, yeah, like you must just work out at the same gym or something because you are so good with faces. But like the fact that it was just crazy. We're sitting on the couch watching your hometown and Joe was like, oh my God.

I've been saying this for two months and I have finally placed it. Yeah, because two of my three brothers were there too. So we were, you know, there's a lot of those family situations down at the Merck. You see a lot of the same guys. We all had darker hair at then,

but we're memorable guys for sure. Yeah, it is a family workplace. What was jumping a little ahead? Where was that rainbow cake? What is this cake? So, Rick, if you got, you know, when you come back, you have to get it. It's got us in the baker,

got us in the grocery. I'm a big cake lover. and I try it wherever I go. And that rainbow cake, if you like that style, which is a heavy buttercream birthday cake style or wedding style, it's absolutely phenomenal. Best there is. I've tried it all over the world.

Have you had the cake, have you had the cake, a toasted coconut cake at Polo Bar? No. Well, now it's on the schedule for this week. You have to try it. It's delicious. It's really good. It's not far too.

I live right downtown, so it's close. Where are you in the city? I'm writing Street of Rille, right on the, you know, across the Navy pier there. Yeah. Got it. All right. So, Jordan, how did you wind up going on the Golden Bachelorette? So my youngest daughter signed me out.

So this was a free pandemic. She watched an episode, you know, like after one of the Bachelor episodes. And they said, you know, and she, unbeknownst to me, sent in a few Instagram photos and a little blurb. And then, you know, four years later, they contacted me. And I think, like, some of the other guys, I thought it was a gag. Like, who's calling me from the Golden Bash? So I didn't, you know. And then finally I said to my girls, I'm like, do one of you guys sign me up for this thing?

And my youngest daughter, Jamie, said, I did, but it was four years ago. So, you know, once I found out it was real, I was like, well, you know, I'll play a lot. I'm single. So let's, you know, let's see where this goes. That is wild. I applied for the show in the heart of the pandemic. And so did you. And it's just crazy how, like, the timelines unfold.

folded like for she must have been like i literally forgot i did that it was so yeah well because she when i said it ago did one of you guys signed me after she goes dad i did that was literally we were still living together you know it was it was 2020 early 2020 yeah wow so you you look good you you skew on the younger side of the men that were in the house what does golden mean to you like when you when your daughter signed you up for the golden i know were you were you kind of like, wait, I'm, yeah, I mean, you know, you know, when you'll get to this age, you're like, Golden, I'm like, in my head, I'm the same age as you. Like, you know, that doesn't change.

So to think of myself as a 61-year-old guy, you know, I don't want to, you know, golden is a walker and Kane, you know, playing shuffleboard with the old people. So that's what it thinks to me. But hopefully, we've changed that persona a little bit. We've changed that identity of what Golden is supposed to mean. But there's still a lot of people out there you think, you know, I'm in my golden years. I don't like to think of the golden years. I just like to think it's kind of just the next phase.

Golden years is another 20 years away. Yeah, I agree with that. And I think that's what you make a good point. Well, people are living longer and longer every year too. So it's like what 60 is now. I hope I don't live to 150. What 60 is now, though, is not what 60 was like 50, 100 years ago. Yeah.

Not even 20 years ago, I don't think. It's just a lot different. But there are people who are old at 60. and then there's people who are, you know, you know, old at 40. It's just really a mentality. You have to kind of, it's the mindset of how old you want to feel and how you want to live your life. Yeah.

What do you do to help yourself feeling good and young and delaying those golden years? Well, I play, I still play a lot of sports with mostly, you know, guys half my age, whether it's pickleball or, you know, beach volleyball. And the gym, I live across from the beach. I'm with my dog every day. We take long walks, ride my bus. Like, you know, the Chicago leg front is amazing.

So I take full use of that. And there's a great gym in the building, you know, yoga, whatever it is. I just try to stay active. I love being outside. I love being by the water. That's good. What did you think of Joan when you first met her? Well, when I first actually met her, I was, you know, I was in sort of a daze.

The limo exit, that nervousness of that really took my breath away. Okay. So let's go back to you stepping out in the. limo. How does this go down? So I was really nervous. My heart was racing. I was trying to calm myself. You have in your idea, you know, you have in your head what you're going to say. And, and then it's in your head, you think you're going to come across smooth, confident. Like, charming before I got out of the limo, I thought. Confident. Cool, Jordan. I'll slink up there and you know, throw my lines on her. But once I got out of the limo, you know, my heart was racing

hard. And I couldn't even remember what I. I know I think. I said to her, like, you took my breath away because I was having trouble even even speaking. And I just, I could not remember even what I said to her when I got into the loan. And I was just like, my life is over. I've just ruined this moment that was, and no one will ever forget it. It's on TV forever in the reruns and, and streaming. But it wasn't as bad coming off, I guess, afterwards that it was in my head.

Because in my head, I thought I was done. It always feels worse. It always feels worse. Yeah. Yeah. It feels way. I mean, that's what I mean, same thing for myself. I was like, this is going to be horrible.

Yeah, I had a prop, which I feel like helps because you go in like with a very specific, or at least I had a very specific like setup of what I was going to do so I could kind of lean on that. If I had gone and just tried to talk, I would have been like, I have nothing to say. Right. But, um, a prop is a good idea. Yeah. I was also, I was also the first one out of my limo too.

And I remember being like, this sucks. but also if I had had to sit in the limo and watch person after person go, I think my nerves would have just gotten worse and worse and worse. Which number were you? I was last out of my limo. Okay. So you had to sit there and listen to everyone go. Yeah, that would make me way more nervous.

I'm like just riffed the band-aid off. Yeah. So is Joan your typical type? Do you have a type of what you usually look for in a woman? I don't know that I have a type specifically. that's more about an energy, I think. So Joan has great energy. She's obviously really beautiful.

And what attracted me to her was her, you know, she's also super family oriented, which I'm all about my family. So, you know, looks-wise, she's great, intelligence-wise, she's great. Energy, I thought she was, you know, she was the full package, without a doubt. So all the guys there, I think kind of had the same idea that Joan was really spectacular. And that's why we were there. Did you think far into the future if you ended up, with Joan, what you would do live for your living situation?

Well, all the guys were talking about that. But I think early on, Joan let us know that she kind of had this idea of three lives. You keep your life in Chicago. I'll keep my life in Maryland. And we kind of create this third life where we travel. We intermingle the children, family vacations. And that, I don't know, it makes sense to me. Because no one's really getting up and leaving at this point.

I mean, potentially you can winter somewhere, but you're not really leaving. your family in all of Chicago and the roots are pretty deep here although I'd like to spend winters maybe somewhere else but would you would you feel comfortable and I guess that would still be a long a long term relationship or a long distance relationship part part time long distance I guess yeah I mean it would need to be it would be a new dynamic you'd have to kind of work through it I'm sure you know Joan and chalk are working through it now it's not it's not going to be easy situation but I think love finds a way I'm hopeful for that yeah we actually we had dinner with them a few weeks ago and they were in new york kind of

starting that process of creating yeah this next step for them and it i feel like there's pros and cons to any situation like you might not get to spend as much time together but you also don't have to uproot yourself from where you're living with your children your current lives and there is like an excitement do you typically date in chicago i'm assuming though yeah for the most part i've dated in chicago the girlfriends up in chicago that might be you know, for a short period of time, you know, someone of another city, but mostly it's been here. It makes, you know, it does make things a lot easier for sure. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.

Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the

same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio

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I'm looking at this thing. Listen to No Such Thing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Didn't you date the woman that was the singer that was on the performer? What was her name? Taylor Dane? I went on a date with her, which was. How did that even happen? Did she live in Chicago?

No, she was just visiting. She was just visiting Chicago. So that's, you know, I met her. I swiped her on an app and you don't know it's Taylor Dane. It's just as Taylor. I'm like, okay, Taylor, you wouldn't know what she looks like unless you're a big fan. And we met down by the river, you know, a river walk. She's like meeting me for a drink.

And so we met her drink. And then she's got this big yacht that's having a party on. So we went to the yachts and we're right along the river and there's a big party's going on. So it's great, you know, meeting all these people. We go out. If you've been to Chicago, you take the boats out to the lake through the lock. And as we're doing that, we go through the lock. And right when we get onto the lake, the captain comes on board and says that the big storm coming.

We do not have time to go back through the lock. everyone's got to get off the boat now. So we pulled over to the Chicago Yacht Club. And as that's happening, rain is coming. The wind is blowing. And people are literally running off this boat trying to find shelter. It just leaves Taylor and I as the last two people. And we're just running through the streets trying to find a viaduct to stand there.

Then she realizes she doesn't have her phone. She left it on the boat. So it's crazy. And it was an incredible storm. We're running through the streets. I'm trying to find a cab or an Uber. we end up getting back to her hotel room. She's got no phone number.

She's got nothing. So I'm helping her with my phone trying to figure out her life that she's stuck here without a phone. And it just was obviously in a crazy situation. We had just met. We had on this boat. And so we stayed there for a few hours, you know, and said goodbye.

We exchanged numbers. And then a few months later, she texted me letting me know she was coming back to town for another gig and, you know, kind of was the end of it until she showed up on the best. Yeah, what did she say when she saw you? Because she's obviously never going to forget that day. No, no.

It's not like you just grab drinks. Like, that's a whole thing. I was hopeful. I'm like, I have to know if she remembers me because it was such an crazy night. So I went up to the producer there. You know, her producer, I said, you know, please don't let her just leave. I need to talk to her before she gets off the stage. And kind of the crowd knew because I was kind of telling the crowd the story live.

But I kind of went on a crazy date with her. And then Joan found out, you know, what was going on. I went up and talked to her and I said, you know, I'm Jordan from Chicago. Do you remember me? And she's like, yeah, we spent five minutes together. And that was it. But like I said, the guys were thinking maybe I was hitting on her. I'm like, not hitting on her.

I'm there for Joan. But just I had to know. No, but you have to be like, hey, remember that time that we got caught on your yacht in a storm and you lost your phone? Like, that's crazy. Circumstances were so crazy that she had to remember. There's no way. How long ago was that before going on the show? Like four years.

okay okay so enough time that you'd be like does she remember me but also like how could she yeah i mean we hadn't talked really you haven't we haven't even communicated and she's probably been on several dates between now and then so i was you know you still never know but it was such the circumstances were so crazy that she'd had to remember that is so funny wow that's a great story i wasn't expecting that so let's go let's let's jump into so you are one of the four four guys yeah four guys that go to hometowns um What was that experience like, like bringing home a woman that you could potentially get engaged to meeting your children, your brothers. Yeah, it's a lot.

I mean, you know, is his badge, right? NKL? That's, there you go, exactly. Okay. So it's a lot to bring, you know, my family, like, you know, probably your families as well, you know, three older brothers, we're all we do is, you know, kind of bang on each other for fun. And so that was nerve-wracking for one because my brothers, you know, you know, we're, you know, we're. We grew up fighting with each other in the fun way. They're strashing me all the time.

And my daughters are everything to me. So it's really important for them to like her. That's a deal breaker if they don't like her. So there's a lot of nervousness there. And I hadn't seen my kids in, you know, five weeks. And we talk every day multiple times a day. So this, you know, that separation first they see me and they're crying and I'm crying and bringing Joan into the situation.

It can't be easy for her because, you know, she's. kind of thrust yourself in this little family situation she's got to fit in as well but the day went great we uh we laughed a lot uh there were a few tears we laughed a lot my our brothers grilled her a little bit and uh i i thought it was a fantastic day it turned out you know sometimes a little bit of tough questions about relationships and where things have gone but but i thought it was a great day overall did you think after that day did you think you were as far along as chock or something of these other the few other guys that were there i would say probably not i mean some of these guys you know near near the end it's certainly chalk and guy were really expressing you know outwardly

even with you know within the group expressing their open uh feelings for joan it's not typically the way i operate one yeah and there was some other circumstances it's just i'm a little more low key when it comes to that so they might have been more vocal in their you know real uh feeling sort Joan. I was probably a little bit more reserved than that, for sure. Yeah, I don't know if it's just because I feel somewhat of a connection with you, but with like the Chicago thing or whatever, but like when you went home, I was just kind of like, this guy's fine.

He's, he's all right. Yeah, I mean, in general, yeah, of course I'm fine. I mean, I thought, you know, she seemed to be better. We talked about that we needed more time. You know, maybe we started a little slow. We just needed more time. these guys were rushing to the finish line and I was more like this is this is the Jordan pace

this is now I would need more time to get that to get that over the finish line do you think if you had more time you could have ended up with her yeah it's for certainly as possible you know it's really such a condensed courtship that you got to kind of throw everything out

just this is what I want and go right forward otherwise it's hard to get to that point I think yeah I'd ask you if you would be interested in Bachelor in Paradise Golden Edition but we've seen maybe you're hanging out with someone. Yeah, are you dating Leslie? So, no, I'm not dating Leslie.

We really approached that very differently. We met at the tell-all, right after the tell-all. My friend had, he was the president of L.A.F.C. Soccer Club, and he gave me a suite. And I offered it to any of the bachelor people who were going to be around. We had this really nice suite. And Leslie was there with a friend. So a couple of bachelors came, and then Leslie came. And then at some point, at some point, we took a selfie.

and she, that kind of blew up to patch their world for a little bit. No, she's great. We talk a lot. I think Leslie's amazing, but I wouldn't, you know, we're mostly just good friends. Okay. Not boyfriend, girlfriend type of situation. So then would you do something like Bachelor in Paradise? Oh, yeah, I would love it.

First, I love the beaches. I mean, I always was like, that's the best, you know, venue. Get on the beach and you're cocktailing more. There's more people to obviously interact with. You know, we're all, we're not fighting for the same person. either sex so I think it would be fantastic yeah

I was going to say as much as the filming time is much shorter and condensed for Paradise you get significantly more time with the person that you're interested in like way more time

yeah I don't think people realize how little time you get you know in the regular bachelor bachelorette season there's just not a lot of time to kind of break those barriers down did you enjoy going on the show like being

oh yeah I love it did you think you would though Did you have any hesitation before going on? I was even up until I really signed it like the week before, I was like, I don't know if I want to expose my life like this. I don't know. Yeah.

You know, I thought the downside might outweigh the upside. But no, after the fact, we, you know, have this great relationship with the guys. I get to this exposure, you know, I'm like 15 minute famous in Chicago. We walk around the streets, you know. So when you come back, well, the three of us will be, you know, 15 minute. A parlor. Yeah, for sure. I've been parlor forever.

Yeah. We've been there this year for sure. Actually, we were there in March. Yeah. Yeah, we were there in March. Yeah. But that's because you guys were there and I met you there. Yeah, I think I picked it.

I'm trying to think where do we go? We didn't really go. We were just back for Thanksgiving. We didn't really go anywhere. We went to a gilt bar. Yeah. Okay. That's a great spot.

Yeah. Yeah, just for dinner. Pascal and I went to Vivette a couple of weeks ago. We were, you know, it's fun to be treated like a celebrity ones we're at the peak of our popularity so it was really fun yeah we'll all go out over Christmas how is hanging out with Pascal

he's great he's you know he's amazing he's unfiltered like he is he knows the city well and we have a good time we have a really good time together what before we let you go what are your what were your thoughts on the finale

well you know clearly like I thought you had a connection with chalk early on You know, it was apparent to me that they had something. We all were fighting for that, but they seemed to have something extra. And I thought, you know, guy handled it well. I think you probably really was in love with her. And it's a tough situation.

You go that far and you're thinking you're the guy and kind of get the rug pulled out for me in any of you. But Chuck and Jones seem very happy. They seem very well suited for each other, certainly right now. And I think happiness is in the future. for them. Good. That's amazing. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I'm glad we finally got to have you as a guest. Yeah, it was great to finally talk to you guys. I would love to continue it. Yeah, let's connect next time I'm in Chicago and I'll call Louis and Pascal.

Hi, Michael. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thank you. It's great to be here. How's it going? Where are you located? I'm in, I'm just outside of Charlotte. And, yeah, we hit a little bit of winter last night. So there's woke up to snow on the ground, which is pretty rare down here. Snow, yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, how cold does it get for the winters? It gets, it's been in the low 20s this week. It's not much warmer than 35 out now.

Yeah. Okay. It's like New York. Yeah. So how did you wind up on the Golden Bachelorette? Well, my son and my daughter-in-law applied. They're huge fans of the series, and you probably heard this from a lot of guys, but they really thought I'd be great on it, and they went ahead and sent an application

and unbeknownst to me, so I'm on vacation with my brother and some other guys, and I get this taxed asking if I was interested in being on the show, and I waited for the follow-off asking me to send $100 in Bitcoin to this number. But that never came, so I thought, well, maybe there's something to this. What was your knowledge of the show before that? well i had watched the golden bachelor uh again they were huge fans and you know they had suggested i checked the statsy what the women were like on the show and you know what the whole experience was like and uh i was really impressed by it i really liked it a lot and and thought it was great

then i watched some of the highlights of the bachelor series and maybe i walked that back a little bit but at the end of the day it was all positive i thought for the most part you went on the show what was it like dating what was your dating life like were you on the apps what was the strategy yeah i was on the apps and that's you know that gets really stale um it's a you know it's a dance that you're doing that involves not wanting to hurt people's feelings trying to discern as quickly as possible whether there's any chemistry there and uh yeah not wanting to put yourself out there too much into a position where you you need to pull back and walk away.

In other words, trust has to be there. And that's a difficult thing to do with a bunch of strangers in any environments, let alone an app. I feel really bad for the women. That's got to be really hard because you, and you've got the possibility of, you know, physical violence or whatever at hand, which guys don't have to deal with. Yeah, there's so many crazy horror stories about like creepos and murderers. cannibals out there on the dating apps

I haven't heard anything about cannibals really I've heard a few I mean Which one of your friends dated a cannibal? No one directly okay This is all through the room or well So take it with a great assault It might not be very true

But I just heard one recently About this girl that went on a date And anyway it was just On TikTok No no through a friend What's a profile name? Taste like chicken Oh God

That should be the first red flag. We heard you had some health issues. Where are you right now on your health journey and what's going on there? Thank you. Yeah. So I was diagnosed with cancer right before I received that text. And I wasn't sure I wanted to continue with the process or not. But my son and my daughter, I'm all kind of convinced me of it.

My doctor, I talked to about it. and he green lit it, and so I went ahead and did it. It was prostate cancer, so I didn't bring that up on the mental law, because a lot of people hear that and they think, well, that's no big deal, but it can be. It can be aggressive. In my case, it was, and I was already being treated for it with medicine. And I'll be honest with you, the medicine that they give you when you have prostate cancer,

and what it does is it basically puts the cancer into stasis, so it can't grow, is what they call, ADT therapy. And what that does is it removes all the testosterone from your body. So I was the first guy in the history. Really? Go on the show and on any testosterone. I was really glad when I heard that Joan was not going to have beds in the fantasy suites

because I was like, oh, that's going to be tough. What is that, can you explain how that feels when you lose all your testosterone? Yeah, I mean, it's tough. It makes me much more sympathetic. for women going through menopause because one of the side effects is you get night sweats and you wake off and every half hour so you're you know throwing your sheets off because you're literally drenched and sweat aside from that i mean i've lost a lot of muscle mass um and in addition to that you get moody and you get depressed and uh you've got to be really careful about putting weight on as

well. It can have really serious side effects if you're on it for for too long. I just went off at about about three weeks ago. So I'm raring to get the testosterone back and get back up. So is that what happens? Does your testosterone come back once you're off? The medicine I'm on it comes out. It comes back pretty quickly. So within a few weeks, it should be at least at baseline. Yeah. So where is your health at now? and then moving forward. It sounds like you're progressing well if you're coming off of the medication.

And the prognosis is excellent. And again, it was aggressive but also caught early. I had to go through a couple of surgeries and some radiation. But I think 2025 is going to be a great year. That's great. Congrats. Good to hear.

Wow. Better, you know, I'd like a little positive energy. We started talking about cannibals. I didn't know which way this podcast was going to. You know what? There's a lot of crazy people out there. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor. and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast

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what was going through your head in that moment and yeah I didn't want to be the first got of face plan on that driveway first of all I will tell you this before I even before we even pulled up we're wondering what the whole up is we got out to stretch outside of the limo and there's a horse scalping down the street. And I'm like, what the hell is this? And we only found out later that one of the contestants, David, had brought a horse and he had escaped. So this happened right before our limo pulled up.

But I was afraid of face planting. I had ultimately, I think I'd over-rehearsed my line. I had a little bit of a patter I gave her that probably sounded pretty canned to her. But at least I got through it without fainting. And then I went in in order to skip drink. How did you feel about living with a bunch of guys who probably are loaded up with testosterone at that point? Yeah, they are. But they're older and wiser, right?

And they didn't know that about me. I kind of kept that to myself. It was, look, these guys were great. And I think the producers, you know, everyone says, well, these guys, this was a natural organic bonding experience. And it was. But I also think the producers had the sign out in front that said no jerks allowed because, you know, I didn't, didn't snuff out one. And they seemed like universally a bunch of really good guys, including the ones that left the first night. And I always feel bad for them. I only stayed through

the second ceremony myself, but the guys who left early, it must be kind of rough to go through all the vetting in order to have that end like that. But they were always, they're all good guys, I thought. And I really loved getting to know them. And listen, it's short a period of time as I was there. I formed bonds with these guys. I had dinner with Pascal and Jordan not that long. I'm going to see Jack when I go up to Chicago to visit my kids for Christmas and you know I'm hoping that

that I'm lifelong friends with some Chuck's kids Taylor and Tyler brought food over for me not that far but they live in Charlotte that's so nice your kids live in Chicago I'm from Chicago yeah that's where I'm from yeah Chicago a lot of Chicago

what area are you from I'm from Naperville which is a western suburb of Chicago I'm from Maloos Park. No kidding. Yeah. My son's living in an Oak Park right now. Okay.

That's what I'll stay with. Yeah. Yeah. Melrose Park. Yeah. Yeah. Oak Park. Yeah, right there.

I'm literally right next door to Oak Park. Yep. That's crazy. Okay. So then, you know, being on the show for a short time, it could be a blessing. It also was pretty rough. I was only on. I went home night one.

What was, why do you think you went home? week two. Yeah, I've thought about this a little bit. At the end of the day, you know, there's either a spark there or there's not, and she's got a lot of guys that she has to plow through pretty damn quickly. So, you know, if the chemistry, if the spark wasn't there, you know, even in the short period of time, you together, I used to say when I went on these dating apps, you could tell within five minutes if you're attracted or interested in someone or not.

I'm guessing that she probably wasn't with me. The only thing I've looked back on and maybe I regret a tiny bit is that I could have been more authentic. I could have been more myself. I was probably overly concerned with presenting myself in the best possible light instead of just being me. So if I had to do it over again, I'd do that. But maybe that buys me another week. At the end of the day, it's not going to move a needle much, I don't think, you know. And that's okay.

I think it's also really hard when, like, I feel like I'm somewhat of a reserved person. And when you are and you go on these shows and then you have so many big characters, it is hard sometimes to stand out because, you know, there's just so many guys. And people are very aggressive. And it just, it's easy when you are a reserved person to just kind of like lay back and be like, all right, well, let the chips fall where they fall kind of thing. Yeah, I totally agree. And I had conversation with Mark and one other guy, because I,

I kind of sussed out that we were the three or four introverts. And I was wondering what it was like for them. Because for me, I felt, you know, like, yeah, like I was walking among giants in terms of personalities because you had Gary there and you had Jack and, you know, these guys were Charles. These guys were extremely charismatic and, you know, I like to think of my own quiet way I am, but not, you know, I don't land that way in a short period of time. It's fine. I can tell you reserved. Maybe those of us who are like that can kind of see it right

away. We get each other. Even over Zoom, we get each other. Are you retired? Are you retired community bank CEO? Yeah, I was, I ran little community banks in Illinois. If you're from Illinois, there's a million little banks. Yeah. And that's what I did during my career, yeah. What are your, what are your thoughts? You mentioned Bitcoin. What are your thoughts on Bitcoin? on bitcoin um i think i think it's going to blow past 100k i i think that's a given whether it gets to 500 or a million some of these guys are calling for i don't know i i would definitely take some chips off the table as soon as it gets past the 100 110 call it that's my what do you think i think this cycle which i believe we're currently in a bull cycle i think i could see it

going as high as 200 by March, but I agree. And then I think there'll be a, there's always a big, a sizable pullback. And, but yeah, I mean, I, I, I, I buy into it. I don't know how high it will go, but, um, everything's looking pretty promising at this point. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. So, um, I know, I know. I'm like, oh my God, let's get up.

Sorry. No, it's okay. Uh, Joe loves Bitcoin. Um, so. what is next for you? Because you're retired. You've come off this show. What are, what are the goals moving forward in the future? Are you dating? Gold and Bachelor in Paradise, of course. Yeah, you would do it. Would you do it? Absolutely. Yeah, I want my shirt on. Either that, I'd hit the gym for six months. You know, just lived there. I'd just move in. You're not the first guy

to come on and say that. Yeah, I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, I would absolutely do it. I think it would be a last. I don't think they will do it, but I'd love it if they'd be all in. I think they might at some point. Might be a little hard now because there's only been one season of Golden Bachelor, one season of Golden Bachelorette. But I think down the line there will be a time. I think a lot of people want to see it and, you know, see the contestants that everyone fell in love with, have another chance at finding love. Are there any women that you have your eye on? Yeah, you were at the, you were at the mental all after the rose, anything happened there yeah i mean i got to meet some of the women of the golden bachelor i had a

yeah i had a really good time and i've been texting a couple of them uh just you know on a friendly basis from time to time and and and hearing back from them as well i mean we've all shared something really unique so even on that level alone um there's some common interest there so and they're great i thought they were terrific watching watching the golden bachelor i don't know if you watched the entire season or just some of it. Were there any women that stood out to you that you thought maybe you would be a good match with besides Jones? There's a couple that might be, yeah, there might be a good match for me. We'll have to see.

I mean, I've met some terrific ladies so far. I'll just, yeah, I'll name some names. we need the names give us the names I know I know and now I'm blanking out I'm one of them have you have you met have you met have you met Nancy yet no I have not met Nancy no I think all the guys would like to meet Nancy

to be honest with you I know we're trying to we're trying to set up Nancy yeah yeah she's a she's a beautiful woman and she seems really grounded so that's intriguing you know who's a really nice lady who's very sweet And I think it's kind of a bad rap is Kathy, very sensitive and easy to talk to and bright.

And we've been texting a little bit back and forth as well. I sat next to Sylvia. She was very sweet as well. I liked her. And, yeah, Sandra, I enjoyed talking with her. It was a party with a bunch of people. So it's tough to decide or see whether there's any chemistry or not yet. So at this point, it's a little soon.

How do you feel about dating, would you date someone that lived in another state? Sure. Yeah, I have. Okay. I would not rule that out. Listen, I'm living in Charlotte. My kids are up in Chicago, so I wouldn't be opposed to moving, to be honest with you. Do you see yourself ever going back to Chicago?

Yeah, I definitely do. Grandkids are coming. You know, that'd be a tough thing not to do. What's keeping you currently in Charlotte? My brother lives in Charlotte. He's the one that kind of drag me down here after retirement. He's like, this is an awesome place to live. And you've lived in the Chicago area your whole life.

Why not check it out? If you don't like it or you miss your kids, move back. So, so far so good. I like it down here a lot. It's beautiful. Nice. And then what does the upcoming holiday season look like for you? I'm going back to Chicago.

I'm going to hang with the kids. And like I said, I'm hoping to see Jack, Pascal, invited me over too i think uh jordan i think is out of town but uh yeah reconnect with those guys and uh and also my old my old friends and uh and my kids as well i'll be hanging on spending time with both my sons where did um where did you jordan and pascal go to dinner uh was an italian place little italian jitoria didn't june say it was bovette do you guys go to bovette? No that was him and that was just

him and pescal oh okay really they want to bevette and they didn't invite me yeah how dare they sorry I just exposed to them right now something um sonio uh sognol is that I can't pronounce Italian so yeah yeah

Piccolo uh it's it's it yes yeah it's on the corner of Grand Grand in Hallstead I think Pascal shows up and his DBA, his Aston Martin DBA with a top down. That makes sense. It checks out.

Right? Yeah. He gives me a big boggy, grabs me by the cheeks. Michael, you must live a more positive life. You have to live in the moment, my friend. This is the secret. This is what's going to make you happy. And then I watched this dude pull out in that car

and I thought, you know, there's a little more too than that. I think if I was driving one of those, I might feel a little differently too. Yeah. Yeah, I think positivity is just one aspect of his happiness. I really dug that guy, though. He's a rude, man.

Yeah, he's, he was, he was, he was, he was fun to watch. He's definitely, definitely, he's definitely a character. Lastly, what were your thoughts watching the finale and seeing the way everything ended up for Joan? I think that, I think that Chuck got, I think they're. I think their child could have gotten a little, I think it was straight a little harshly. And I won't say by the producers, but I would say certainly by the audience. And, you know, I spent a little bit of time on Reddit and, man, they can be harsh. And they've been really rough on him.

And I know him a bit. And I know his kids. And he's a great guy and a great dad. And look, he just fell in love. He fell hard and early. And, you know, he's also. also competitive guy too. At the end of the day, that was the one that stuck with me. I'm glad that they're together and I really think that it's genuine from the heart and I wish them the

best. But that was the one takeaway that I had, that I would have liked to have seen gone down a little bit differently. Yeah, I, you know, I hated to see guy get hurt like that. Guy is, he's terrific. But he'll be fine. He'll be all right, I think, at the end of the day. Yeah, he's all right. Yeah. I think so, too. You know what's interesting too is chalk, getting you know some flack for everything but i've seen guys like fall in love and act very similarly to how he did with joan on the bachelorette when they're 20 something and not get any flack for it well yeah but it's it i feel like it's a different i feel like that kind of goes hand in hand with the men when they're in their mid to late 20s but they do get they do like remember

I just think they're being harder on like I just think maybe there's a little bit of ageism happening here Yeah maybe you know maybe maybe those people have they have a beautiful teenage fair-to-love. It's great They need a quiet it was a quiet season they needed a little drama too. Yeah Yeah yeah yeah well Michael thank you so much for taking the time out of your day. We really enjoyed talking to you and Hopefully we see you again on our TVs. Yeah or our podcast. Thanks so much. Love talking to you. Of course.

It's great to meet you. Thanks for coming on. And to all our listeners, thank you so much for tuning into Bachelor Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe. Thank you so much for listening. We hope you're enjoying the holiday season.

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